Trump Announces War with Iran

What's up? What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem,

a weekend episode. We don't usually record on Sundays, but felt like we needed to do that today.

I was, I was just busy yesterday and didn't have a chance to record, but you know,

sometimes that's a little bit better in situations like this Rob. I know everyone's always Russian

to be first, but which is important in news too, but you know, it's, it's, I'm kind of glad

that we waited another day because the time that we would have recorded yesterday, anyway,

things have changed quite a bit. Anyway, so Rob, this is a shitty way to be vindicated.

You know, it's a really awful way to be completely proven, right? This is, well, we'll kind of

get into that, but one of the, one of maybe the less interesting dynamics in all of this is

that the justification for the 12-day war has just been completely blown up and exposed for

what it is and what a lot of us called it out at the time to be. So on Friday night at around 2am,

I guess more accurately described as Saturday morning at around 2am, Donald Trump announced

what we had all been, you know, what, what all the signals were that we're going to war with

Iran and that this is a full regime change war. A regime change war from the sky or not

invading the country, but we are bombing the crap out of them and with the stated goal of overthrowing

the regime. Now, we had been saying, Rob, on the, on the show for a couple weeks now, and in fact,

I've made this, you know, a pretty big point to talk about in Donald Trump's State of the Union

last week, that, well, now, and this is really his opportunity where he's got to like present the

case for war with Iran. I mean, he's been building toward this war for quite a long time,

making major military moves in the region for the last couple months. And yet, the war is very

unpopular and he's really never given the American people a good reason why we have to fight it.

And so I was interested to see, oh, he's going to have to lay out his case for the war. No,

just did it. Just, just did it and posted a video on Twitter about it. Most Americans, and you

got to keep this in mind, Rob, most Americans do not pay attention to the news cycle the way me and

you do. And that's good. We don't want everybody to do that. If everybody obsessed over politics as

much as I do, we'd all starve to death because no one would ever make food. So it's important that other

people don't. But I just say that to make the point, Rob, that like a lot of Americans didn't even

know that we were moving military hardware around the Middle East. You know what I mean? Like this

just wasn't even something they were keeping up with. And they just woke up. No debate in Congress,

no debate across the nation. They just woke up to like Donald Trump made a Twitter video that says

we're going to war with Iran. He in the video explicitly stated that this is a regime change

operation and Rob explicitly stated that Americans are likely to die in this war. But hey,

that's the price of fighting wars for Israel, I guess. Here before we get, I'm very curious

your thoughts on this, Rob. But let's just play a clip of this is Donald Trump announcing that he's

taking the country to war with Iran. We must abandon the failed policy of nation-building

and regime change that Hillary Clinton pushed in Iraq, in Libya, in Egypt, and in Syria. We want

to help them. We'll be good to them. We'll work with them. We'll help them in any way we can,

but they can't have a nuclear weapon. We're not looking, by the way, for regime change,

because some people say we're looking for regime change. We're not looking for regime change.

I've watched President Obama and many other presidents try that. That doesn't work out too well.

We're not looking for that at all. Finally to the people and leaders of Iran,

we want you to have a future and a great future, one that you deserve,

one of prosperity at home and harmony with the nations of the world. The United States is ready

to embrace peace. Again, I think Iran has tremendous economic potential, and I look forward to

letting them get back to the stage where they can show that. I think Iran, I know so many people

from Iran. These are great people. It has a chance to be a great country with the same leadership.

We're not looking for regime change. I just want to make that clear.

We took action last night to stop a war. We did not take action to start a war.

I have deep respect for the Iranian people. They are a remarkable people with an incredible heritage

and unlimited potential. We do not seek regime change. However, the Iranian regimes

aggression in the region, including the use of proxy fighters, to destabilize its neighbors,

must end it and must end now. Do you want to see regime change in Iran?

If there was, there was, but no, I don't want it. I'd like to see everything come down as quickly

as possible. All right, we can get this off. I am being told that this was not in fact Donald

Trump announcing we're going to war with Iran. This is just everything he said about it

until five seconds ago. What can you say, Rob? Liar, liar, pants on fire.

It really is, you know, it's just, look, what can you say? I mean, obviously this was always the

big fear of a Trump presidency. I said on at least a couple of different shows. Oh, for sure,

said on it was on the reason just asking questions show with Liz and Zach. I said that, you know,

when I was talking about that, I'm voting for Donald Trump. They're like, what's your biggest

fear? I was like, oh, it's war with Iran is the biggest fear. You know, obviously, of course,

Donald Trump in his first term had flirted with this war a couple of times, but he did back off

when he had the opportunity to escalate it. Donald Trump, part two is just that much more

controlled or that much weaker, but he has been pushed into this war. It's pretty, you know,

this is of all the terror wars. It's the most blatantly for Israel of all of them. I mean,

if you do your reading, then yes, you know, Iraq and Syria and Libya were wars for Israel,

but this one is just blatantly a war for Israel against the will of the American people,

against the will of Trump's own base, at least the day before he launched it, I guess, as of today,

they're saying a slight majority of Trump supporters support it, but of course, they're just

going to support whatever Donald Trump does the first day of it or the first two days of it,

and we'll see what this turns into. So only a couple days into this conflict already, there's been

a lot of developments. Number one, the the Iranian response, well, there's been a lot of bluster

about what they're going to do, but certainly you would have to say that it hasn't been a response

like the 12th they were. It's not a response where they're giving advanced notice and trying

their best not to hurt people. They've touched targets all over the the Middle East. They've hit

Tel Aviv fairly hard, and you know, I haven't gotten good casualty reports out of Israel, but there's

definitely been people killed. It has been confirmed by central command that three Americans have been

killed, and I think something like a dozen wound it. So Americans have been killed in this war for

Israel already. And then of course, the very big event yesterday was that they did, they killed

the Ayatollah, and this was something we had said on the show many times that like, hey, there is a good

chance that maybe they can get intelligence on where the Ayatollah is and they can take them out

with a bombing campaign. Well, it turned out that that was true. And impressively, they did it

the first day. And so I have to admit that was I did not think they were going to be able to do

that quite so quickly, but hey, they were able to pull it off. And so, okay, so essentially, I'll

say this. So I was yesterday around, yesterday afternoon, this is before it was confirmed that

the Ayatollah had been killed. I was talking about this. We were on, we do like every month, we do

like a Zoom call with like the supporting listeners. If you want to sign up over at part of the problem.com

in the top two tiers, we do like a monthly Zoom call with all of us, great group of people too.

And so what I was talking about at the time was, and this is almost like if you could do the

timeline of it, right? So during the day yesterday, I was saying, well, look, the thing that's really

concerning here is that now that Donald Trump has announced that this is a regime change operation,

well, that puts him in a time. I mean, Donald Trump has put all of his balls out on the table.

Like he's gone all in. This is his legacy. He's his presidency hinges on how this military

operation proceeds. Like, and so you get into us, once you announce that it's a regime change,

if you bomb the crap out of them, but the regime is still standing, that's very hard to have

an off ramp, too, because now you look like a failure. And of course, you know, the Israel lobby and

Netanyahu and all of them will pounce on you if you try to walk away and say, hey, you drew a

red line, it's regime change. And so it's a failure if you don't do that. Then yesterday,

it's, well, first the Israelis claim they had killed the Ayatollah. It was a few hours before

Iranian state media acknowledged that it was true. But once that was the case, then I went, okay,

well, maybe this is a potential off ramp. Like maybe this is an opportunity where Donald Trump,

who has, you just saw in the video there, seems to have never really wanted this war,

seems on some level to know how dangerous these regime change wars in the Middle East are. You see,

here out of his own mouth saying, look, we tried this in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Syria, in Libya.

Look what a disaster it was. These guys want to do it again in Iran. It's going to be another

disaster there. This is Donald Trump's own words. So on some level, and of course, as we saw in the

12-day war, when he was given the opportunity, he did take the off ramp. Makes one wonder what

the hell he's doing, doing this stuff at all. But so I did suspect, and I said this to you, Rob,

maybe this will be what, let me and Rob were talking at the comedy club last night. I was like,

well, maybe this is his off ramp. You know, he can do the Trump thing in Venezuela and say, we did

it, even though you don't really do anything. But hey, we did it. And the Ayatollah is killed,

and so blah, blah, blah. He can just say Iran's been liberated. We run the country now, you know,

like he did in Venezuela, even though we don't really. And I got to say, Rob, from the reporting,

it looks like my guess on that was right. But Donald Trump did want to take that. It's now being

reported that they went through it through Italy. The US went to negotiate with Iran after the Ayatollah

and some other senior members were killed and said, okay, let's do a ceasefire now.

And the Iranians said, no. See, this is the goddamn thing that I was telling all you people about

last summer that nobody wanted to fucking listen to. And man, god damn Rob, I mean, God, I mean,

the levels of vindication here, where I was saying, hey, this is all about a regime change.

This is the regime change. Israel has wanted for decades. And this is what they're going through.

They could know it's just about 60% enriched uranium. And we obliterated their program.

Oh, you panicans, you panicans, you worry, you guys are so, so like little girls worrying about

the unsustainability of multiple wars, worrying about debt and permanent militarism and forever wars.

That's just silly little panicking things. See, this was an easy little intervention,

except here we are six months later. And what was the fucking point that I made over and over

again about the 12-day war? Think about it, dude. You for all these people who are telling us what a

scary threat the fucking mullahs are, okay? Well, you put it all in their hands for the 12-day war

to work out the way it did. It relied on Iranian restraint. Maybe for self-preservation,

but Iranian restraint nonetheless. But see, here's the thing, Rob, about relying on restraint

for self-preservation. Once you announce the regime must be destroyed and then you kill the leader

of the regime, who by the way, Rob is also a very important religious figure to the Shiites.

You can't just count on the fact that they're going to do that once again. And so they've turned

this down. By the way, this is, as is always the question that never gets asked, it's what comes

next, which we'll get into a bit more. But so they kill the Ayatollah and that and then Trump

wants to do a ceasefire. Okay, they don't want to do a ceasefire. And the regime has still been

responding since the Ayatollah has been killed. Oh, and Rob, there's a new Ayatollah who's just

been appointed. So it seems like as of now, all that's been achieved, well, there's reportedly

like a hundred Iranian children have died. Probably the casualties are much higher than that.

Some Israelis have died, some Americans have died, some Iranian children have died. And now,

instead of having the Ayatollah who had shown restraint in the past, who had vowed that due to his

religious convictions, he never wanted nuclear weapons. Now we got a whole new guy in there,

who from all the stuff I've been reading is more radical than the last one. All right, guys,

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All right, let's get back into the show. Yeah, I got a lot. We'll start with this and this

is the problem when we hang out in the green room before we do an episode is you will get some

repetition. But off the bat, it's incredible that for all the outrage from the machine over

Donald Trump becoming president, he turned out to be the best deep state president yet.

And he pulled off the the the war that even John McCain couldn't get. So

impressive in that regard. Now I I said there's two last night in the green room, but much like

during COVID, as much as I wanted to be right, I did not root for vaccine entries. And while I would

like to see less war in the world, and I don't think that I think we could do a lot more to get

along with people and not have these excursions. And I think these excursions are bad for the

country. Now that it's kicked off, I'm kind of rooting for the best. But this isn't incredibly

risky play. And speaking, you know, amongst the risks, we once again bomb them while there were

negotiations going on. And so from their side, you know, at what point can they trust us at all?

I think the game that's being played here is that they want to escalate and get back some they

need some blood, which I'm not endorsing, but I think that they need to make this somewhat costly

for Donald Trump, but they don't want to escalate it to the extent that they just get nuked.

So I don't think that they've totally unleashed hell, but then they also got the risk factor of if

you hold your bombs too long, maybe all of your munition factories and whatnot get get exploded.

And then, you know, you've got nothing left. Donald Trump does have a great off ramp here of

going, we did get regime change. I killed the Iatola. They learned their lesson. And now we're

going back to the JCPOA. And I just don't see them giving up their ballistic missiles programs

because amidst everything that's going on, I really only seen incentive for them to now push

for a bomb and be more aggressive amongst the risk factors of them being more aggressive is not

just that the new Iatola is more aggressive, but also if maybe they actually radicalize people

for more terrorism, which they're branch of Muslimhood. I don't know if that's the word wasn't

really doing. It was the other guys. Yes. Yes. So all of this just seems completely reckless and

like just extremely risky, but I don't know. I mean, maybe maybe they maybe they walk it back

from here because I ran doesn't really have an out. So maybe the regime change just stays in

Donald Trump claims it's a different regime. And you know, they go back to some sort of a nuclear

part agreement. You know, okay. So there's a lot of really good points in there. So let me first,

just just a kind of second, your point there. Look, I agree, man, I would much rather this kind

of what I was getting at being kind of tongue in cheek like this is not a good way to be vindicated.

And I don't care about being vindicated. And I hope even though it would, I don't know,

look worse for me. If Donald Trump was able to do this and there's no bad ramifications,

I mean, there's already obviously been people who have died, but I hopefully no more people die.

And this ends. And if that gives the hawks a talking point where they can brag about, see,

you guys are alarmist and it's not that hard, whatever. I'd rather have that in a very good

comparison. You make to like the vaccine injuries after you're warning people, don't take this

vaccine. But enough of them have, you go, man, I hope I'm wrong. And I hope there aren't

vaccine injuries because I'm not rooting for death and destruction so that my prediction looks

better. That being said, I'm making the prediction for a reason or have been for a long time,

because there's a real risk to this stuff. Now, to your point about the negotiations,

look, it just can't be overstated. It's not just that Donald, it's not just Donald Trump,

and it's not just with Iran. It's not just that Donald Trump can never be trusted to negotiate

again, but there's a precedent just for negotiating with America, period. And you know, the again,

I hope I'm wrong about this. But the Iranians had already offered the JCPOA plus,

like they had offered the JCPOA without sunset, without sunset clauses and with more restrictions.

Donald Trump already had the off ramp of coming away going, I negotiated a better deal than

Obama did. I do not see how that happens now. I don't see how they go back to negotiating.

And you know, one of the things, and of course, I agree with you. Look, I don't want to see

any American boys get killed. One of the problems here is that Donald Trump has now created

an incentive structure. And I got to say, this is just simply, this is, this was the Israeli's plan.

And they're just much smarter than Donald Trump. And so they were able to con him into this.

That Donald Trump, the one of the major problems with Donald Trump is that he's weak and he's stupid.

You know, these are real issues. He doesn't know anything. He goes into this shit blind,

convinced that he's a genius who knows more than everyone else. But the incentive structure

here that he's created is that now the Iranians can reasonably calculate that they have to give

us a bloody nose. That their only chance here is to make sure they at least hit us back.

You know, after, you know, the 12th day war was only half a year ago. Now, after they come in,

they bomb the country and you don't respond. And then they go, oh, a few months later,

they're right back here bombing a country get now murdering your leader. It's very easy to see

where the lesson to that would be, hey, we have to respond. We have to make this cost them something.

Otherwise, they're just going to keep fucking with us forever until we're dead. And so now you turn

like the self preservation incentive around to be like, well, I guess we got to do something.

And look, what Iran's already done in the response already is a huge risk,

but it's an interesting calculation on a geopolitical level. So they have essentially attacked everybody,

not just Israel or, you know, they're bombing all types of countries in the region. And it seemed

like to some, with some of them, they were targeting like US sites, but some of them not. And so

the dynamic you have here is that essentially no one in the region except Israel wanted this war.

Perhaps Saudi Arabia. I've heard some conflicting reporting on that. But the rest of them in the

region didn't want this, right? Because they don't want a catastrophe right next door to them. And

also, because the straight of hermos being closed, which it now apparently is, that's a big deal

to a lot of those countries in the region there. This has major, major ramifications for Saudi Arabia

and Qatar and Pakistan and India. And like, it's a really big deal to slow down. I don't know,

like Rob, if you've read any of the numbers there, but it's like 20% of the world's oil like flows

through there. It's a weird thing because if you look at it on the map, you're almost like,

oh, why do they need the straight of hermos, but like if you really zoom in, you're as very,

very narrow little area. And this is like the area where so many of those countries have to get

their oil out from like, you know, Saudi Arabia has like the Red Sea on the other side and they

do some other trade through there. But for multiple reasons, it's much, much harder to do it. So

so anyway, the countries in the region didn't want this conflict. And so now Iran is attacking them.

And you know, that's a big gamble. What does that result to? Does that result in them all

recognizing that there's a real cost to America and Israel doing this? Or does that result in them

getting real angry and wanting to join in on the fight against Iran? You know, that's that's

unclear. But Donald Trump has certainly now pushed the Iranians to a point where look between

number one, there's the strategic, you know, incentives that they could very reasonably feel like

they got to make a big show here. And then number two, there's also just like the human

emotional component of this, which is that you just killed their leader. You just took out the

Ayatollah, a religious figure and a political leader. And I don't know, Rob, I mean, you saw

there's major demonstrations pro regime demonstrations across Iran. There are also Iranians out in

the streets celebrating, but there's just as of right now, the regime has not fallen. The

attacks are continuing. The ceasefire has been rejected. And again, this is another important

detail that I guess we'll get into a little bit more here. But Marco Rubio, the secretary of state

and national security advisor, he's been on record for a few weeks now. And they said they don't

have a plan. This is just so why it is, it is so insane, Rob. At this point, 25 years into the

global war on terrorism, with examples in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Somalia, Yemen,

with all these examples that anyone, and a president who said all the things that we just played

Donald Trump saying would launch a regime change war and openly admit we don't even have a plan.

Like they don't even have a car's eye. They don't even have a figure who they're claiming is going

to be the guy they've bailed on the Shah's kid. They know, they know if they sent him into a round

they're sending him to his death. So they're not even claiming they have a regime that they want

to replace this regime. We don't have a military occupation on the ground. So we have no mechanism

by which we can direct what regime would rise up in the event that this one collapses. And so

look, I mean, as Donald Trump himself said, the big lesson of all of this shit is that what comes

next might be worse, right? You could sit here and talk about how bad Saddam Hussein is, but what

comes next might be head shop and bin Ladenites. And you could talk about how bad the Ayatollah is,

but what comes next might be a meaner Ayatollah or another religious figure, three clicks to the

right of him. So just a wild, just a, I don't know, it's just this policy. It really is like so blatantly,

it is risking catastrophe for America and the region so that Israel can achieve the greater Israel

project. It's just these people are traders to the country. Well, I think it's because they're more

than okay with the failed state. And so they don't mind if there's no leadership or chaos or

some sort of other, you know, just civil war between different terrorist groups. What they don't

want is an organized country that I guess could pretend to or pretend to be a threat to Israel.

That's what they know that that's right. Look, it was Ben Shapiro who came, he celebrated when

Assad fell. And why? Because we broke up the Shiite crescent now around can't get weapons through

Syria to Hezbollah in Lebanon anymore. I mean, yeah, sure, we gave the country to al-Qaeda and the

Christians are being murdered in the streets. But, you know, Hezbollah isn't getting the weapons

from Assad anymore. So that's how they look at it. Yes, that's right, Rob. If this turns into

a Libya or a Syria, if it becomes a playground for al-Qaeda, a catastrophic failed state, if hundreds

of thousands of people die, if there's open air slave markets, okay, but they're not arm in Hezbollah

anymore. That, well, that's that is worth it according to Benjamin Netanyahu. Now, why the fuck

that should be worth it to any of us? Well, that's because we don't really get to have a country.

It's what what's up to Benjamin Netanyahu. That's what matters. And it's, I don't know, it's just

goddamn disgraceful. Well, then let me just see as a, okay, nothing major. This is just one of those

days where when a news thing from the Washington Post comes in, I'm like, oh, maybe I better read this

and see see what's going on. So, yeah, I mean, this is, I don't know, even even already,

this is, you know, there's just, like I said, a bunch of people have died. You know, there was,

it was initially reported that something like 50 girls died in that, in that Iranian school.

Now it's, they're saying it's something closer to 100 of them have, you know, I posted something

about this yesterday and I said like, I said, oh, look, you know, the number was 50 at the time.

I go, oh, look, 50 Iranian children liberated already. You know, and it's amazing how many

of the people who pretend to be so outraged, you know, about like the Iranian people, the Iranian

people suffering, but we're supposed to feel nothing for that. And then, you know, they all end up

doing, which again, this is totally uncooperated at this point, but they all start arguing that, no,

no, it was an Iranian shell that that misfired or it was an Iranian missile that malfunctioned

and killed all these kids, which I never claimed it was an Israeli or American missile.

It's kind of not the point. You're like, okay, yeah, but either way, that's on Trump and Netanyahu.

Dude, you just launch a war of aggression again when you're in the middle of negotiations.

You just launch a fucking war. You caused that goddamn chaos. You caused their response. Even if it

was one of their missiles that misfired and hit there, it's still on you, that's the result of

you launching this war. So congratulations. You killed a bunch of kids in the regime still standing.

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get back into the show. By the way, it should also be pointed out as we'll start to get into some

of the reactions that people had here. But I mean, Donald Trump's declaration of war. I guess

that's what passes for a declaration of war now is a tweet. That's what as they lay it out in

article one section eight of the Constitution, Rob. But it's just he didn't even have anything.

Did you notice that? Like he didn't even have he didn't even try to come to like, hey,

there's this new update. Like at least lie, dude. Say there's some new intelligence. There's a new

thing. They're planning this. They're planning that. He just went like, oh, they took our hostages

in 1979 of a proxy bombed our Marines in 1980. You know, like, what are you talking about, dude?

That's what you got the same shit that we've had forever. Wasn't too much for Ronald Reagan to

sell them weapons in the middle of a war a few years later. But now four decades after that,

we got to launch a war. So again, look, I mean, what can you say here? You've got,

just call it what it is. A war of aggression, a war of choice on behalf of a country sold off pure

lies. That's where Donald Trump has gotten us. And this is this is a time right now for all of the

goddamn people to, you know, especially on the right, especially the people who have been supporting

Trump. There's no, there's no ride in the fence on this one, man. Like, like what I just say,

can anyone argue with what I just said that this is a war of choice, a war of aggression sold off

lies? Okay. Well, if that's the case and the guy's whole fucking, you know, political career,

he's been saying how stupid these regime change wars are. And then he's now embarked on the

stupidest one yet. Fuck this guy. I was, uh, I mean, it was almost humorous in a tragic way,

but I got home at two in the morning, maybe even later than that from, uh, dropping you off after

great shows we did at the dojo. Very fun. Yes. I go on Twitter and I'd seen earlier reports of this,

but then I started seeing, you know, I saw an interview. I think it was on one of the mainstream

networks, but basically that Iran had agreed to not stockpiling enrich nuclear materials. And

I got excited. I was like, Oh, wow, looks like negotiations are moving forward. Donald Trump already

has a talking point for a better deal. It seems to, uh, really vindicate that Iran is not interested in

a nuclear bomb. And now like that information was really just not being reported by mainstream

media at all that Iran has it to create against having a nuclear, uh, creating a nuclear bomb.

And that, you know, they only went from 30 to 60 to basically have some negotiating leverage, uh,

to get America to come back to the table. Uh, and so I got really excited. I was like, Oh, wow.

This is going to put pressure on Donald Trump because he's not going to be able to sell that

this was just about keeping them from, uh, getting nukes. And then I continue scrolling Twitter and I

see, Oh, we just attacked them. And I'm like, shit. Uh, I guess, I guess this, I guess the war is

going on. Uh, but then it was surprising to read the next day. I guess, uh, the CIA had tracked

Kalmani, Kalmani, and they knew exactly where he was meeting along with a lot of the high ranking

officials. So in terms of war, the fact that the first strike was directly against the leader

and you managed to take the guy out, um, I guess that, that's the better way to conduct warfare.

Once again, I don't endorse this war. I think it's a horrible mistake on behalf of Israel and

that it's unnecessarily risky. Uh, but that's better than ground invasion or, you know, just

recklessly bombing a country. Um, and I, I, I, on the positive side, I think there's still a pathway

to get out of this. And Donald Trump just declares we've got our regime change, but that includes

our ran now agreeing to getting rid of its nuclear ambitions. But as we've explored the risk,

I don't really even know how presentable of a case that is to them unless this thing escalates

to the extent that they think they're going to get nuked off the planet and they realize that's

their only option. Well, look, I mean, as always with these things, you know, making, making

predictions is tough. Um, and, you know, the, you know, the side that was claiming that we've

obliterated Iran's nuclear program and then said a few months later that we have to go to war

because we can't allow the number one state sponsor of terror to have a nuclear weapon. Like

I thought you already took care of that. Um, but they'll, you know, they'll, uh,

they'll attack anyone if they get a prediction wrong. And who knows, these things are complicated.

There's a lot of factors, but there's a couple things here that I look at that I think are very,

very dangerous. Number one, and I just can't stress this enough. I'll probably make this point

10,000 more times in the next month on a bunch of different shows. Um, as I said in the 12-day war,

that whole for that thing to end the way it did, like where they brag, no Americans died.

I mean, some Iranians died, some Israelis died, but, you know, no one cares about that when

convenient. Um, but, but that whole thing does not work without the piece of Iran showing this

restraint of Iran calling ahead telling us to evacuate a base and intentionally hitting it where

there will be no people and not killing anyone. So all those things that you're talking about,

Rob now, like to deescalate to fuck it. Oh, we can end up with a stronger deal and not that many

more people have to die. It needs that component. It needs that component of Iran not killing a whole

bunch more people and then coming and making a deal. And who knows, dude, like maybe we put, I mean,

look, who knows? Obviously, there's a knife to their throat right now. And so you can get people

to do some things when you got a knife to their throat, but at the same time, it's quite possible

that you've kind of changed the calculation here and that like at the same time, you could understand

where Iran might come to the conclusion, well, we can never negotiate again with them. That's when

we came and sit down to talk about a nuclear agreement. That's when they bomb us. They bomb us when

we sit down when we sit down and say, Hey, we'll give you everything you want. Everything you've

always asked for. That's when they attack us. By the way, Donald Trump is also, and I don't think

people understand how bad this is that Donald Trump is also like how bad this precedent is.

Donald Trump is also on record saying Maduro offered him everything he wanted and then he went

and kidnapped him. It's probably going to end up being executed. So like, I don't know. That's

a real disincentive to sit down and negotiate with somebody. And the other factor here is that

we've never in the in the history of the terror wars, we've never had a real deal religious war

with the Shiites before. But like, this is much bigger than just Iran. We just murdered in

Ayatollah. Now, I heard there's that like the Ayatollah who I think is like religiously like the

highest ranking one in Iraq, he said something condemning the the statement, but he didn't declare like

a total religious war on the US. Thank God. But there's been uprisings of Shiites in a few

different countries already. Like, we'll see what happens with this. It is not, you know, it's

funny because like all the guys like all the the idiots, the like fake intellectuals like

Gad Sad and Sam Harris and all of them, they spend their whole career talking about how irrational

the Muslims are and how, look, you can't even draw a cartoon of Muhammad or they want to kill

people and that's their argument for how they're incompatible with the West. Um, meanwhile,

which might be an argument for strong immigration policy, it's not an argument to fucking spend

$10 trillion on wars of choice. But okay, okay, Sam Harris, Gad Sad since you're so smart and we're

so dumb. Okay, explain this to me. If fucking criticizing Muhammad or drawing cartoons of Muhammad

is likely to get you killed, what is murdering an ayatollah do? Is no one allowed to think like,

hey, there might be unintended consequences. There might be costs of doing something like that.

None of them seem to really have much of a concern at all. I think that's something to be very

concerned with. But you know, it's a Donald Trump is made as bad. Like this really is it in a different

way, even different than the 12-day war, even different than covering up the Epstein stuff. It's

like Donald Trump officially chose, you know, there's whatever it is in this this game where there's

Tucker Carlson and there's the majority of his base and there's Candace Owens and Megan Kelly

and, you know, whatever. Donald Trump chose Mark Levin and Lindsey Graham and Benjamin Netanyahu,

the most discredited evil laughing stocks on the planet. That's who he chose to go all in with.

So he's made his bed. Let him sleep in it. I, I mean, don't get me wrong. I, uh,

I still find the Democrats and the Democratic establishment to be as evil as the Republican

establishment. And I think they're a threat to the country. The, I hope the Republicans lose

the midterms this year. They need to for the country. They need to be destroyed and no one from

this administration can be supported in 28. Fuck JD Vance. Fuck Marco Rubio. Fuck Tulsi Gabbard.

Fucking, she hasn't resigned yet. Fuck Tulsi Gabbard. Do the goddamn no war with Iran

shirts that she was selling? How much money you make off those shirts, Tulsi? How can you not return

that money? Go, go donate it to the families of the hundred little girls who this administration

just got killed. If fucking, she was cut in commercials in 2020 when she was running for

president to be a Democrat, talking about how Donald Trump is going to take us into war with Iran.

And that's why I'm running for president to stop him.

Now, I don't know, dude, I don't want to put him on the spot, but hopefully Tom Massey runs

for president in 2028 because everyone from this administration is done as far as I'm concerned.

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the show. All right, let's get into a little bit more of the reaction to this because this is

something that's really got to be taken on here. We'll hear it first. Let's check in on Ben Shapiro.

Ben Shapiro. Remember, never Trump or Ben Shapiro who swore he would never vote for Donald Trump

for deeply held moral reasons. His moral convictions would never allow him to vote for Donald Trump.

Here's Ben Shapiro now.

President Trump is the most courageous commander in chief in modern American history. There is no

question about this. What he just did is the bravest move by a president of the United States of my

lifetime bar none without a doubt. President Trump is the most courageous commander in chief in

modern America. All right, well, see there you go. There you go from Ben Shapiro. That's all it

takes. That's all it takes and they'll worship you. You fought a war, launched a war of aggression

on behalf of Israel. The bravest. Well, at least he said modern American history, right?

He's not saying he's braver than George Washington or even Dwight Eisenhower, but he's he's

up there up there. There's the bravery. That's what you describe it as, right? What's braver

than getting a line with the deep state after they shoot at you and have files on on you?

Nothing more courageous than not uprooting the machine and getting in line with the agenda of

the real people with power and fighting endless war on their behalf. Very courageous.

Yeah, isn't this something so like very courageous? It's just so or well and like up is down.

Yes, being a total bitch and not having the backbone to stand up to the lobby and to the deep

state and to Benjamin Netanyahu, that's courageous. Why? Why? Because it's so reckless and risky.

Like I guess in a way, I get his point like it is kind of brave, you know?

Like if I walk in to a building of like a bunch of hostile people who are armed to the teeth with

no weapon and I call them all a bunch of faggots, I guess that's kind of brave. You might also

refer to it as incredibly stupid, but that but anyway, doesn't it just like kind of reveal

everything here, man, right? Like look, it's what you already say. This is where we say you're a member

of the Israel lobby. This is why some people call you an Israel first star. Look, there just

is no higher priority to Ben Shapiro than fighting a war on behalf of Israel. And so once you do that,

you're the braveest ever. You're the greatest. That's all. Doesn't matter what else is going on in

the country. Doesn't matter what else he does that Ben Shapiro might disagree with. Now you

fought a war for Israel. There you go. Anyway, all the hawks are out celebrating. It's really,

it really is unbelievable, Rob, to watch the kind of, I mean, it's just the level of like how

disingenuous, how stupid, all of the set like day one, day one of a war. It's totally unclear

what's going to happen here. And they're all hoisting their mission accomplished banners.

Then there does seem to be like a mix to me. There seems to be there's like the Ben Shapiro's,

the Mark Levin's, the Lindsey Grounds, like there are the real, the Ted Cruz's, the Israel first

stars, you know, who like, yeah, they're on board. They don't care. They don't care if it destroys

our country. They don't care if it destroys Iran. They don't care if hundreds of thousands of

people die. If it's good for the greater Israel project, then they're on board with that.

And then there's like a different class of, of MAGA influencers, kind of like the Matt Walsh,

more like Mike Surnovich types, who like, they kind of know, like they're hedging their bets.

They're like, well, you know, we were kind of against this and this sure could go bad. But they're

like not ready to not support Donald Trump because they're like, I don't know, Trump did this.

I can't be the anti-Trump guy. I got to be on his side. I'm not sure which of those two groups,

I respect less to be honest. It goes, because there's, there's an argument of which one is actually

more reprehensible. But let's just take on this thing for a second, because I've seen so many of

these, these accounts try and there's something funny about it, right? Because there's an interesting

dynamic where essentially, I mean, really for much longer than this, look, I mean, there's a reason

by 2016 when Donald Trump was saying, your brother lied us into war to Jeb Bush and how all these,

you know, regime change wars are terrible. You know, after the war on terrorism had gone on,

you know, at the very beginning of the war on terrorism, all the people with common sense and

wisdom and principles who warned that this whole thing would be a catastrophe. They were mocked and

ridiculed by the George Bush Republicans. You love the terror, you know, all the stupid shit they

say now was, but it was really, it was, it was a different time back then because we didn't have

all the examples that we have now to point to. But, you know, you must love the terrorists, you

know, the same way. You must be a Hamas apologist. Well, back then, it was a Saddam apologist

instead of a Ayatollah apologist, whatever. So they mocked and ridiculed everyone. They turned

out to be completely wrong. They got millions of people killed and bankrupted the country and all

of this stuff. But so then they started losing the argument. And then after October 7th and with

the corporate media being completely destroyed and the new media being, you know, right here on

the internet, the hawks kind of had to engage with us. They're not, they no longer can ignore us.

It can't, it can't just be like, you know, like when David from wrote the unpatriotic conservative

article in national review and he trashed all the best right wingers in the country, all the best.

Yeah, Pat, you can and Ron Paul and Lou Rockwell and Justin Romando and a few other people made the

list. But so they could just like do one article and then ignore and then move forward.

It's not like that anymore. They can't just like write one article about Tucker Carlson and then move

on. There's got to be like a continued campaign against him. And now we have these things where

we have, we have big debates, many of which I've participated in on Joe Rogan's show on Pierce

Morgan's show and, you know, Lex Friedman has debates on his show. And now it's like,

that's just the thing. And so for two years now, the war hawks have consistently just been

curb stomped. Like just, just been destroyed in the debate in public opinion because, you know,

I mean, it's, it's just so easy to do. I mean, I happen, I'm the lucky one who gets to be one of

the ones doing it, but it's easy to do. They have no case. They're all liars and they worship death.

It's pretty easy to fucking beat them in a debate. And so, you know, I mean, obviously there's

lots of examples of this. I mean, you've seen all types of polling about America is now a pro-Palestinian

country. It's, you can't even believe it. Americans have more sympathies toward the Palestinians

than the Israelis. It used to be plus 50 points for Israel. They're the support for Israel and

the warfare state has collapsed. Okay. So these guys now, the war hawks, they've been getting

furious because they're just, they've been getting embarrassed for years now by our side. And

you see this, Rob. I mean, you see Mark Levin's public meltdowns every fucking day. Are you a little

twerp? I can't believe this little Nazi Tucker Carlson and this Dave Smith. And that's very just

losing his mind. But while they're losing the argument, they've won over power. And so you see,

Rob, this kind of like, it's a different level. Number one, they're very excited about the last

couple of days again because they worship death. They're of the devil. And so they worship death.

They get very excited when a mass murder campaign pops off because that's who these people are.

And but then it's also this like energy of like, oh, I've been so mad for years now because I've

just been getting embarrassed and beaten. But we got our way. You guys lose. There's all these,

you know, Dave Rubin and like, it's really just, I really when you think about it, Rob, as we sit

here and we say, even at this point, we go, Hey, I root for people to not die. I don't care if this

comes out, making me look good or making them look good. Just hopefully this can fucking wrap up

with his few innocent people dying as possible. When you sit there and you root for, you know,

there to not be vaccine injuries, even when you warned everyone you know not to take the vaccine,

after they did, you go, well, fuck, I hope I'm wrong. I hope I look like an asshole now. And they're

all okay. Dave Rubin and these guys, they, they're posting like images of, um, of like,

Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson crying, you know, being, Ha, Ha, you guys lost. We get our

war. Like right at the moment that it's being reported that like 50 girls just died in an

Iranian daycare, you know, like it's their laughing. Ha, ha, we get our war. I wanted to say to Dave

Rubin, I was like, have some respect, like a bunch of children just died. Those could have been

children that you and your gay partner bought some day, you know. Um, but while they're, while

they're celebrating all this shit, this, this, imagine this Rob, there, this is their big talking

point here is that Donald Trump defeated the non interventionist bullshit, right? That oh,

everyone has JD Vance as the fucking pathetic coward JD Vance said the other day. We can't

over-learn the lessons of 9-11. That's what he said, right? Excuse me, of Iraq. We can't

over-learn the lesson of Iraq. You know, that would sure be, that would really be the worst thing

about Iraq would be if we're hesitant to go on more killing sprees after that. But so they're all

basically making this point that looked dude, not every military action has to be a catastrophe

like Iraq or Afghanistan or Libya. They don't all have to be like that. You know, sometimes you

could do it smart. And that's what Donald Trump's proven that you can do this smart. And what they're

going to hang their, their hat on here is that, well, we got Maduro out of Venezuela and we got

the Ayatollah debt. And that didn't lead to a giant catastrophe so far. I mean, only some people

died, but not like hundreds of thousands of people died and the country was destroyed. And so

somehow this is supposed to prove that like, oh, look, we can just fight wars of choice. You know,

because like sometimes they don't start into a disaster. Sometimes you can do it right, like

Napoleon until he decided later in his career to go into Russian, freeze to death. So that's

the point with wars that it's real risky. And if you decide that you really like it and you think

it's a winning game and you keep playing it, at some point you're going to lose. So even if Donald

Trump manages to get this one right, if you want to walk away with the lesson of being, look,

wars of winning activity, you're going to take a big loss somewhere. And it still is unnecessarily

risky. So you might want to wait till you really have to do it or not engage in the behavior.

It's just such a dumb philosophy on life is like, oh, we can't over learn. We don't want to get an

A plus of learning from Iraq. Let's go for a C, you know, it's like, there's just also, I mean,

how much money do we spend in Iraq? We can't afford this shit like trillions. Trillions. Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's over two trillion between two and three trillion somewhere, I believe,

is the exact number. Something like eight or nine trillion total for the war on terrorism.

But look, Rob, no, look, of course, you're absolutely right. But it's so much worse than that.

There, this is how idiotic this case is. Donald Trump hasn't proven any of this.

They don't have one win on the board. They've done nothing. Yes, they've proved we can drop bombs

and kill people. They prove we have good intelligence and good special ops and stuff like that.

But we already knew that doesn't prove anything. We didn't do anything in Venezuela. We haven't

liberated the people. We haven't taken over the government. We haven't taken over the oil. We

kidnapped a guy. The regime is still standing. And then around the same case.

You know, as I said to you, Rob, this is how crazy the fucking hawks are to even like try to have

this. Let's just say, okay, hypothetically, let's say that I don't know, maybe they keep up the

bombing campaign for a couple of weeks or something like that. And they take out

enough key, you know, members of the government, high ranking members of the Iranian government.

And let's say the regime falls. And let's say hypothetically that some some liberal

Iranians, you know, let's say the best, the Thomas Jeffersonian party of Iran, which doesn't

exist, let's say they take over the government. And they institute like a bill of rights and

laissez-faire capitalism and women can wear mini skirts and the people are free. Like let's say that

works in Iran. Okay, if that government were to rise up, then the appropriate reaction would be

like, I hope this sticks. You know, I mean, you know, we, we did have regime change in Iran and

installed the Shaw and it lasted for like 25 years. Was it 53 to 79, 26 years? Okay, and then it

fell. And then it gave us 40 plus years of of this regime. So like, is that worth it? I don't know,

but hey, let's, let's say, but let's say they got that. Let's say they got that and it took over

the government and let's say it's stuff. Let's say it's stuck for a year, two years, three years.

Well, okay, then you would still go, okay, let me get this tally correct here in the global war on

terrorism were one for seven with six catastrophes, millions of people dead, like $10 trillion or

something down the tube. I'm saying, you know, years from now, if we look at the total number,

okay, you'd still have nothing to brag about. You'd still be like, no, it was way,

it would have been way more prudent to just avoid all of those and not have the catastrophes in

there. But hey, I would have to admit, if any of that happened, you did get one out of seven.

One of them did work out, you know, I'm not, I'm not saying I would approve of killing

people and starting wars of aggression. I wouldn't, but I would admit, from a consequentialist

point of view, this one did work out. They don't have anything close to that, Rob. They don't

have anything close to an example of one actually working out. None of that's happened and yet day one,

day one, they're celebrating. Now, I just want to just, I point this out just to point out how full

of shit you have to be like literally for you guys listening to the show, just fucking any person

who's doing that. Any person who's an influence of yours, maybe you respected some of their opinions

before, they're celebrating day one of a war that this was a success. Please never listen to that

person again. But please just disregard their opinion for eternity, because if you have not by this

point, if you have not by 2026 learned the very basic lesson that like, well, we got to see where

this goes. We got to say the whole game is what comes next, not whether we can topple the government.

It's, it's, well, in, look, in terms of non-nuclear armed countries, it's obviously always been

known that the US can topple whatever government we want. That's not the question. And even Donald

Trump, right, in that, in that montage that we played at the beginning, he wasn't questioning whether

we could overthrow regimes. Nobody ever said, hey, George W. Bush, I really don't think you should

invade Iraq, because I think Saddam's military might defeat powers. And I think Saddam will

still be in power. And in fact, he'll drive the American military out. No one thought that

fucking the mullahs could defeat the 82nd airborne or something like that. The question wasn't like,

really, can we do this? The question was always, oh, wait, what comes next? What's to prevent this

from turning out to be a catastrophe? You know, in that event that I said, in the event that the

government does fall, what is the likelihood that it's the liberal Jeffersonians who rise up and

seize control of the government? Seems very, very low. And so any of those guys who are celebrating

this are just, I mean, they're out of their minds. I know we're tied on time. I think it's really

worth playing the Lindsey Graham clip because it's about what regime might replace this. Let's do

that. Let's pull up a Lindsey Graham. Who by the way, let's just be clear. What is Lindsey Graham's

popularity nationally? How many people do they go? I want, you know, who I want to lead the

MAGA movement is Lindsey Graham. That's who I America first. That means Lindsey Graham to all

you fucking war hawks and to the entire Trump administration. This is the Lindsey Graham

administration right now. Now, I just want to be clear on that. This is the fuck, you know,

Rob, as you mentioned before, I forget who you said that even John McCain couldn't get the

war in Iran. Right. And that is what John McCain ran on. He said, remember that.

Oh, I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. Right. Okay. George W. Bush wanted this. Dick

Cheney wanted this. John McCain wanted this. John Bolton wanted this. Lindsey Graham is one of

this for many years. This has been Benjamin Netanyahu's crowning achievement. What he's been working

toward for 35 fucking years. Donald Trump's the one who handed it to him. This is the Lindsey

Graham presidency. And let me just say this. But by the way, because I do, and I know there's

fucking that people who give me whatever I just I can't even spend time responding to some of

these retards. But the people giving me shit for voting for Donald Trump, I don't care about

any of you. It's just incredibly stupid. I've never once I just know, I don't know. I've just

never been as petty as any of these people. There was never one time when a leftist was against

the, you know, Israel genociding the people of Gaza that I went, but you voted for John McCain.

And therefore you're responsible for this. So like all you guys giving me shit for that.

Fuck you very much. I don't care. Voting is stupid and gay. It doesn't matter. It's goddamn,

it's all a fake fucking thing. You know, I made a mistake. I thought I kind of thought, you know,

like, ah, given the calculation of everything, I think Trump's preferable to Kamala Harris.

But I do want to be clear about this. I did always say this was the biggest concern was that

Donald Trump would take us to war and Iran. And just to be very clear about this, because I've

already said it before and I'm not planning on saying it much more. I was wrong to support Donald

Trump. That was a big mistake. He's worse. We'd be better off with Kamala Harris. We'd be

better off with Joe Biden. He's worse than the Democrats. And I say that as someone who prosecuted

the case against the Democrats, better than most, who actually despite, you know, like they could

someone like a Ben Shapiro or something like that. You know what? He was telling you to get the

jab. He was celebrating lockdowns. He was an us. He didn't actually oppose the Democrats in the

way that we do. And Donald Trump's worse than them. Fuck him. Fuck the Trump administration. But

anyway, just wanted to get that out. Here is Lindsey Graham, the true spokesman for the Trump

administration. Here are his thoughts. Iranian government isn't worse than the current regime.

It's not our job to pick the next Iranian government. I don't remember being attacked by a rock any

time, you know, in the past. A rock is complicated, but you know, we we have a relationship with a

rock. It's up to a run to pick your leader. It's not my job. It's not President Trump's job. We're

not going to occupy the country. We're going to give the people of run a chance to do something

they've ever had before, chart their own destiny. We're going to take away from any future regime,

the ability, any future government, the ability to have a ballistic missile program, a nuclear

program, or support terrorism. That's what we're going to do. All right, so pause it right there.

Already, Rob. No, you're and you're absolutely right. Of course, I'll meet the press. This is who

they go to. Again, this is the spokesman for the regime. And any of you guys, listen, I don't even

care. Any of you guys who are like upset with me because I fucking am off the Trump trait,

which listen, I've been off since fucking last summer, at least. But any of you guys who are

upset with me, it's like fine. No, you can, you can stay on being a Trump supporter. But just,

like, just, let's be honest about it. You love Lindsey Graham. And I don't. So that's, you're a

Lindsey Graham supporter. And I'm still against Lindsey Graham. But just think about this, Rob. And

I'm glad you brought this video because that is really a startling admission. That's not our,

like, how do you know what comes next won't be worst? Oh, yeah. No, we don't. We don't. But

remember Iraq, they never attacked us. What? Yeah. Yeah. And it's way worse. Right. And Iran also

hasn't. So how do we know what comes next won't be a catastrophe? That's not our problem. But if

the catastrophe up next wants to get intercontinental ballistic missiles, then Lindsey Graham is promising

you more war. We'll have to go fight that regime also. That's it, Rob. That's what they've got here.

That's what they're celebrating as a success day one before they've even taken the regime down.

That's it. Let's continue. It gets good. Yeah, let's keep on.

I'm saying new government that we can do business with great. But having Iran no longer the

state sponsor of terrorism opens up historic opportunities. It's the one irritant in the region. It's

the one impediment to real peace. We'll never get the where we want to go as long as Iran is the

largest state sponsor of terrorism. And I'm here to tell you the largest state sponsor of terrorism,

the mothership of terrorism is sinking and the captain is dead and a lot of good things are going

to follow. Senator, let's talk about the strategy moving forward. In the social media post

Sunday, President Trump wrote this quote, hopefully the IRGC and police will peacefully merge

with the Iranian patriots and work together as a unit to bring back the country to the greatness

it deserves. Is hope the plan for the future of Iran?

Now, the future of Iran is going to be determined by the Iranian people. The new Iran,

whatever it is for this, a cleric or a representative democracy, our goal is to make sure it cannot

become, again, the largest state sponsor of terrorism. That's a win for us. But is there a plan

to make sure that happens? Senator, is there a plan? Does the president have a plan to guarantee

that that happens? No, it's not his job or my job to do this. How many times I have to tell you?

Our job is to make sure it's not our job. It's our job to start the wars. It's not our job to

ensure that they don't end in catastrophe. That is really unbelievable or with a worse outcome.

It's just a little bobbin more. No, I like that. It goes, is hope the plan? No, we don't have a plan.

I've been very clear. Hope isn't a plan. We don't have a plan. That's what you're hearing, guys.

And people are celebrating this day one. Goddamn, man. What a world we live in. All right,

look, we do, we got to wrap up there. We'll be back tomorrow with a brand new episode. Hopefully,

hopefully not with bad developments, but we'll see. I mean, the latest on this is that the

fucking the IRGC is claiming that they're about to unleash a response unlike anything in their

history. Donald Trump put out a post and said, you better not do it. We will say. All right,

catch you guys next time. Peace.