Trump Can’t Control His Own Base on Iran War

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We are live. Will. What's up, man? How you doing?

Hey, you know, I'm hanging in there. Hello to everyone watching. This is our second

Maga Monday. It's very exciting. Yeah, pretty exciting. Welcome to everyone. I'm Sam Stein

managing out of the bow work. This is Maga Mondays. We had conceived with this live show,

10 a.m. at Monday as somewhat of a lighter fare, where we looked at the internet and decided

what was silly over the weekend and what we can make fun of. Obviously, that's a little bit

difficult when you're in the middle of a war. And for those who are going to say,

oh, it's not a war. I saw Patrick or Fini, you know, it's not a war.

Pete Hexeth called it a war. So we're going to call it a war.

They killed the president of the country. You know, I told her, you know, what it,

that's pretty cool. That seems warlike. Yeah. So I will just, so we're going to, in the spirit

of the show, which is meant to look at the right wing internet culture and what's happening with

again, we're actually going to look at how Maga's reacting to what's happening in Iran. And

well, you could correct me for long. I started the weekend thinking, okay, they're kind of

contorting themselves, they're figuring out a way to get to supportive. And certainly,

there are definitely some people who are doing that. But what has surprised me,

generally speaking, is the degree to which

luminaries in this movement have basically said, we don't like this. This is fucked. We don't want

this. This is not in the spirit of what Trump is doing or promising. And this is, you know,

contradictory to the campaign messages you ran on. So I've been a little bit surprised by how

much of that is out there. I agree. I mean, I think in the first 24 hours, we saw a lot of this,

you know, these kind of traditional dovish supposed people, people are saying, you know, Trump's

not going to invade Iran, whatever. They were saying, you know, I think they liked the initial

splash and the spectacle. I mean, it kind of reshalled the the the Maduro raid where people go,

oh, wow, you know, I guess Trump just keeps winning. But on Sunday, I think we started to see as

after American soldiers were killed. And we start seeing more of these missile attacks. I think

we're seeing people say, you know, there is, I think a pretty significant voice on the right

opposed to the war on day two, right? And so where is this headed, you know, if they're talking

about four or five weeks, I think there's going to be more and more of that. Yeah, I would say the

the sort of crystallizing video for a lot of people was not actually someone who speaks out all

that much, although if you watch the ban and show, you'll see him regularly. But it's someone who is

widely associated with thirsting for wars because he runs private contractors who benefit

financially from them. And that's Eric Prince, who is been around for decades, everyone knows him

from the Iraq war. He was on, I think it was ban and show. Am I right? Or I'm trying to remember

who he was? Yeah. He was on ban and show. And so he comes out and he says this and this was kind

of shocking because if anyone's supposed to be thirsting for the war, it's just these types of

figures. So here's Eric Prince. I'm not happy about the whole thing. I don't think this was in

America's interest. It's going to uncork a significant can of worms and chaos and destruction

in Iran. I'm now who takes over? You still have tens hundreds of thousands of IRGC people

that will be positioning for to be number two to beat the next rulers of that country.

I don't see how this is in keeping with the president's MAGA commitment. I'm disappointed.

Okay, that was my blend for me. That's, you know, Aries the God of War,

they're weighing in saying, you know, I'm not sure about this one. I mean, I do think one thing

to know here about Eric Prince is I'm curious about how his golf connections are playing in here.

I mean, I think it's he's he's been involved with the Emirates and folks like that who are kind

of caught in the middle here. And so I wonder how much that's roll again where he's kind of,

you know, he's like, I prefer these small proxy wars in Sudan or Yemen. And that's kind of

messing with my paycheck. Yeah, but also, maybe I'm not going to discount that people, I mean,

especially people like Eric Prince are operating out of self-interest. That makes a lot of sense.

But let me just sort of push back a little bit. Like the ban and wing of this party, I mean,

they do seem pretty much committed to isolationism around this stuff. I mean,

maybe I'm misreading it a little bit, but this does seem to be something that they genuinely

ran on and believed in. And, you know, it's the way that they separated themselves from

traditional Republicans, people who supported the Iraq war. It's the way that they go about

distinguishing themselves in Trump's brand of foreign policy. And so he's kind of tarnished that.

And I do think they're grappling with this or having difficulty grappling with it.

Yeah, I mean, I think for someone like Steve Bannon, he wants, you know, he wants the deportations,

he wants these other kind of populist mega things done. And then he looks at what we might

consider like old school Trump, excuse me, old school Republican things like whether it's

welfare cuts or in this case, kind of classic Middle East quagmire war. And he's looking at that

and saying, geez, you know, this looks like something that's going to detract from Trump's

political capital. And that, you know, I think is what it's starting to look like.

Well, yeah, but it's also that's literally, I'm not everything that Trump ran on in 2016.

But that was how he distinguished himself from other Republicans. I mean, it was false, right?

He said I opposed the Iraq war. He had not. But that was such a focal point for that campaign

that became defining from. I also say Bannon is a big harsher theory guy. He constantly wants to

recruit disaffected liberals. It's how he got, you know, the connections to Kennedy and Gabbard.

And part of that is that part of the connective tissue is running against foreign interventionism.

I mean, that, that, that is inherent to what they offer. Let's listen to Bannon and then I want

you to react to him on the flip side of it. I'm just going to be brutally frank. If it's going

to be a hard slog, I mean, that was not pitched in the 2024 campaign. It just wasn't. We are

going to believe in support. We just were. I mean, is he right? Is that Frank Gaffney? I think so.

I don't know. That's like a pretty hawkish guy. Yeah. I mean, if that's who that is, I think it is.

Um, I mean, he's right. I mean, that this, look, I mean, it's not even being pitched now, right?

I mean, you know, they had this press conference this morning and they're asked by very friendly

conservative media outlets. Overall, they're saying, you know, okay, well, what's the plan here?

What's what are we trying to accomplish? Fair question. And he's like, we're not going to get

into that. You know, I mean, I think Bannon is also reacting to the fact that as you said, I mean,

there's been no messaging on this. There's no sense of why we're doing this. This clearly,

there's thing that's already on popular and is only going to get more popular.

That's why I'm being told that was indeed Frank Gaffney, which isn't just insane to me.

What's going on here? The other, the other sort of tempo in the conservative

magma movement that is that group around being opposed to foreign intervention and war is turning

point. You would say, obviously, and you know, they were grappling a lot with the first

year on strike. And that was sort of a taxical maneuver to take out the three nuclear sites in

Iran. That I remember and maybe you could recount this for me because my memory is a little bit

faded on this stuff. But that was Charlie Kirk at the time alive was grappling with that in real

time, if I recall correctly, and ultimately ended up being supportive of it. But I can't

remember that much. But how is turning point now responding to what happened over the weekend?

You know, it's interesting. I mean, so much in the aftermath of the assassination and part of

this is based on canvas opens. I mean, it has focused on where was Charlie Kirk in terms of war

middle in the Middle East? Where was he on Israel? And so I think people are kind of fighting over

that Charlie Kirk legacy after this war where people like Andrew Colbert, who is sort of

Charlie Kirk sort of heir apparent who is like his right hand man are saying, you know, well,

you know, I think I heard that, you know, Iran was building dirty bombs and they were going to

get all these crazy missiles from China. But for some reason, the administration isn't saying that.

And so people are sort of sifting through these Charlie Kirk clips where, you know, sometimes

Charlie Kirk is saying, I trust Trump to do whatever he wants with Iran. And then, you know,

people opposed to the war are saying, well, you know, here's Charlie Kirk saying, you know, we need

distance ourselves from Israel. Yeah, there is a lot of that. It's sort of legacy fighting.

But like, honestly, and you know this world better than I do, I mean, what is what are the,

maybe we don't have a poll, obviously, but like the people who make up turning point, you know, say,

the people go to these conferences, the people who are officers with the organization,

how do they genuinely feel about this stuff? Do we know? I mean, I think we're seeing this kind of,

I think there's kind of an overall effort to kind of whip people into line on the message and

support the war. But I think individually, I think we're seeing the same thing we're seeing from

Bannon, where it's this kind of like reluctance, this effort, this combination of like, well,

I don't really like this war. And also, I think it's really not being messaged right. And so,

you know, if, if these people who were kind of hardcore mega people are ambivalent about it,

I think they're then realizing, well, G's independent voters probably really don't like this.

Yeah. So there's a couple clips from Kirk. We're going to play one. I'm going to actually read one

we're not going to play, which gets to, I think, the sort of, the way in which they could,

they have been part of this trying to, I don't know, contort themselves into figuring out a way to

support Trump. So this was obviously a while ago. Kirk was asked or was talking about Iran. He said,

Iran is hugely diverse, it's a massive country, for the people agitating for war, even know that

this, of course, is in the lead up to the first strikes against Iran. Because be clear, regime change

is war. This is Kirk again. Just to understand, regime change is not like changing the head coach

at the Chicago Bears. It's not how it works. I'm not sure about the analogy, but whatever.

Now, he did end up getting to a place, like I said, where he was like, well, okay, you know,

if Trump's going to do this tactical bombing of these nuclear sites, I can, I can support him

because it's Trump. So let's listen to where Kirk ultimately ended up on that first strike.

Two things he said 10 years ago, Iraq war was a bloody catastrophe and a disaster and it'll

never happen again and Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon. Only President Donald Trump can hold both

those things in his hands. Only President Trump with prudence and practicality and wisdom is able

to weigh them both, thread the needle and walk the tight rope. President Donald Trump is a man

made for this moment. He's swelling music. Yeah. Well, first of all, absurd. Multiple people can

hold both those thoughts at the same time. It doesn't take President Trump is not the only person

who can process these two things at the same time, but that did get that did underscore the the

ability for these people to start to say, well, you know, in Trump, we trust more or less.

Are we seeing that now though? Yeah, I mean, I think that obviously that's an old clip, but I think

that kind of hits a lot of the messaging we're seeing from the pro Trump pro people of essentially

trust the plan. And you know, I think personally, that's because they don't really the administration

is not giving them anything. What is the plan? We know what is the plan. Well, I guess trust Trump,

you know, Matt Walls, I believe at the at the Daily Wire, who I mean, one thing to keep in mind

here is a lot of these Republican pundits that we're seeing now, I mean, they were growing up during

the Iraq war or they were, you know, in college, they saw how the W Bush administration was really

undermined by the Iraq war. No. And so wherever was 20 years ago, over 20 years ago, they were babies.

I'm not like Matt Walls. I mean, he's like old. I mean, yeah, I mean, maybe like people were like

like, like, Bryland Hollyhand. Yeah, but people. But I got to talk about Bryland a little bit. But

good. So, but I think these people are saying some of them, you know, in Matt Walls' case, he's

saying, like, look, like a war in the Middle East is a very serious and complex thing. We've seen

this go south, relatively recently. Trump is not explaining how it's going to be good this time.

On the other hand, you have people saying, you know, essentially, you know, you know,

if I don't know, we have the will Chamberlain tweet, but you know, we'll put it up. Let's put it up.

Let's put it up. It's good. Here it is. This is the most ridiculous. This is most ridiculous

spend I saw online all weekend. Here it is. The point of being against regime change was,

was not that the regime changes inherently bad, but rather that our political military leadership

couldn't pull it off in an efficient, effective manner. When the facts change, you should change

your mind. So absurd. Isn't this the military that was too woke like a year ago? It was focused on

pronouns. And now it's totally different. I mean, that's that's kind of the language and the

what we're seeing a lot is he's like, yes, traditionally a war in the Middle East is a bad idea.

We're going to get bogged down, but you have to keep in mind. Trump's just, just, he's built

different. You know, and just too good at it. Yes. And they're just going to do too well.

I got to be honest, and it's not just Chamberlain. So, so this is the, it's like the version of this

was the messaging from official government channels. So the House Foreign Affairs Republicans

put up this tweet, which he he's ending forever wars. I can't start.

President Trump is ending the forever war that Iran was waged. Okay, so the

he's ending forever wars by waging war that will end the for the one war to end the forever wars

basis. Yeah, so it says it says essentially Trump, you know, he was elected to end the forever wars

and indeed he is. Now, what we did was that it would be a new war. But, you know, this is going

to be a short war to end the forever war. So ridiculous. I will say this is this is so this

these tweets, especially that House Foreign Affairs one, that's where it started. And so that's

why when we when we were initially planning out this week's show, I was kind of convinced that

it was going to be a show about how people were more or less figuring out a way to get to yes.

But that's not really true. And what you're seeing is a lot of anger bubbling up between certain

factions, rivalries that are clearly burning hot, traditional ones too. So like we have the

Candace Owens tweet, Yashra Ali in his context of it. Let's show that when we can. Like this is

Candace doing her thing is well, that's not the one I was hoping for. I was hoping for the Yashra Ali

one. Let's try to get the Yashra Ali one. She basically says that they murdered Charlie for

to do this war. And then there's the other one, which is the Marjorie Taylor green,

Laura Loomer feud. So will as we pull up the long run of you. Yeah, want you explain what's

going on here? Not fans of each other. Sure. So basically, Laura Loomer is very pro-Israel,

very pro any kind of military intervention and support of Israel. Marjorie Taylor green,

not a fan. She is kind of in this kind of America first, isolationist mold. And so there

really going at each other over, you know, over this issue. And MTG like spent the weekend just

basically going after her calling her names. If we can pull up the MTG, the MTG tweet here. Yeah,

it's a it's a opus here basically. You can see there's a lot of anger. Yeah, because

other. Loomer, Loomer said, you know, you know, thanks to the American soldiers for their sacrifice

who died. And then MTG says this bitch is selling home line. This bitch is celebrating the death

of American military members and thanking their families for their blood sacrifice. And then she

said, and just two more sentences here, she says, loomer lost two congressional races because no

one respects her values are enough to elect her. But this is who Trump takes late night calls from

and laps up her praise and worship. And I think actually that's a pretty good point from MTG.

I mean, she's saying, I think to other Republicans, look, Laura Loomer is someone we can recognize

his unhinged and kind of a crazy person. And not only is she on Twitter, but Trump is taking her

advice about national security. He's firing people on the national security council based on what

she says. So I think it's a it's a pretty compelling point. Yeah. I mean, Loomer does have incredible

access. She's had an incredible sway over personnel. And frankly, she, I mean, if if this is a

MTG versus Loomer bad, I mean, Loomer's winning it, right? I mean, MTG is retired. She was spending

the weekend going nuts saying this is a complete abandonment of of mag of mag and America first.

But she seems to be on the outskirts. Trump is obviously not listening to her. He's went down to

her district. He's, didn't he say, didn't you like celebrate her the fact that she was retiring?

Call her crazy. Yeah, I mean, that's how we stir out. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, it's hard to argue that

Loomer's losing this one. It seems quite obvious that she's winning. The other thing I want to you

to do the thing that I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on is Tucker Carlson in all this.

Like he obviously is opposed to the war. He was freaking out about the possibilities that

was going to happen. He was at the White House. Like as they were essentially planning this thing

talking to the president, like, what does that say about Carlson? I mean, I think that that says

he has no cloud or at least not on this issue. I mean, why invite him to the White House, I guess.

Well, you know, Dave Rubin speculated that Tucker was being called in to get a scolding and told

to be nicer to Mike Huckabee and perhaps he was right. I mean, I think, you know, I don't know if

they get give him a token, you know, okay, you get to make one more case against the war meeting.

I think it does show that, you know, I think there's a lot of energy in right wing media for people

like Tucker, for people like Nick Fuentes, these kind of Candace Owens, these more isolationist

figures. However, I think in terms of like who has Trump's ear and who's making decisions at

the defense department, clearly, I think it's in much more kind of traditional, you know, pro-Israel

faction of the Republican Party. I didn't see anything we're talking about the weekend, did you see?

I haven't seen a response from him yet, but I expect he's not going to be happy about it.

No, not like that. Okay, we do have the Yasha tweet. I want to get back to the Canis Owens stuff,

because this is where Vera's totally into the conspiratorial. Yasha got a hand at her. The devil

works hard, but Candace works hard. In the midst of the war, she keeps things focused on business.

So Candace is basically saying Jews murder Charlie Kirk so they could get this war. That's what she

said. Exactly. And as Yasha points out here, I mean, she also has a business objective here,

which is for her Erica Kirk series, which we talked about, to not be overshadowed by the war.

I forgot about the Erica Kirk series. Where are we on that? What installment have we have?

Episode three, just launched on Friday. The apparently Erica Kirk's moms and notary had

some business issues. Oh, God. If people haven't seen the first video of the series, Will,

Tim and I did a recap of it. It's highly anti-Semitic, to say the least. Some of the theories don't

really pan out, including discussion of Erica Kirk being pictured in a B outfit as a toddler.

And I don't know how that relates to Charlie Kirk's death. And it all led up to this, bombs

over. Oh, now it makes sense. Yeah, she was there as a B. One of the features that I want to

talk about before we get to in Miles Chong is just Twitter as sort of an apparatus to consume

more news. I don't know about you, but like, it's really hard. I mean, the outlet is just a

flaming mess. And there's videos all over the place. Some of them are gruesome and awful.

And then some of them are just like, is this real? And I spent a lot of my time over the weekend

just being like, is the thing I'm seeing real? And it's, I don't know, obviously the website sucks,

but there's just not really any other real way to consume news at that speed. So how are you handling

it? Yeah, I mean, it's really difficult, as you said. I mean, it's obviously the combination of AI.

I mean, Twitter itself is just kind of busted like the search function after some of these

attacks in Dubai. Once that first broke, I was searching Dubai. And it's like, all right,

here's a 15 year old tweet about Dubai. You know, it's one of the top results. Okay, thank you.

Yeah, I mean, it's a mess. And I mean, there are so many of these disinformation accounts that

really flourish because in the past, you know, you could be like, all right, well, this guy has like

500 followers is probably fake. But and of course, you know, obviously you can buy a verified checkmark.

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you're not in, you can't follow everybody. You're looking for new information. But like if you're

doing the for you feature, it's just like, Oh, is this tweet from today even? And then you look at

it and it's like, this account is not it's anonymous. And you know, they're telling me something I

haven't seen anywhere else. See, then you have to like this morning, there was one Iranian account.

I was like, Benjamin Netion's chief of staff is dead. It's like, I had to like look for it. And

it just absolutely was not true. I mean, one interesting aspect, I think is how the Iranians are

clearly capitalizing on this. I mean, there are a lot of Iranian accounts that will say like,

they sank the USS forward or the Lincoln, you know, they've sank it, sank an aircraft carrier.

And then you have to kind of look back. And obviously that's not true. Yeah. All right. So in the

midst of all the har, and there is a lot of har, there are too funny things that stood out.

We'll do Lindy Lee next. But first we're going to get to Ian Miles Chong. Can I preface this? Sure.

Um, so obviously, Ian Miles Chong is a, is a Malaysian man who through video games became

extremely crazed about American cultural war issues. And this is going to kind of touch on

the internet transnational mega Dubai thing because people like Andri Tate as well,

they love hanging out in Dubai. But obviously they're under fire here now as well.

Why, why do they like King Andri Dubai? Just just like a pop in city, lots of clubs. I think

extradition, at least in Andri Tate's case. But yeah, I mean, I think in city where there's no rules,

you know, I actually lived in Dubai in elementary school. And so, you know, this was before it,

yeah, for a few years. And so this is before it got really crazy, but you know,

but I know a bit of this nightlife as well. Wait, no, no, you don't. You were there as a child.

I'm just kidding. What are you talking about? Yeah, I was, yeah, I was there before it got too

crazy, but but now he ends walking. But it's in your, it's in your blood. Once you're there,

you're just, obviously you exude it. So when you watch this video, I just want you to imagine

Will's actually slightly off frame, uh, never actually pictured in the video with Ian Miles Chong,

but he was there. I'm scared. All right, let's watch it.

Okay, so I just want to say you didn't see the text, but the treat is it's 3 a.m.

And they do buy club right now and the place is alive. You can't beat this city. Can we play

this again? I want to play it one more time because I have, I want to, I want to talk over the

commentary. All right, let's play. Can they do a little bit more? Can they get into it a little

bit more than this? This kind of looks like the budget one. I gotta pause it. Can you,

wait, can you pause it for the guy sitting here? Pause it. No, no, go back. I want to pause

on the guy sitting at the table. Does that guy look alive or what? This place is alive. That guy

was got can't even look up from his phone. They've got they've got purse. Yeah, what is going on

on that table? What do we got there? We got a bunch of cans of ginger ale. Is that ginger ale?

Yeah, it looks like ginger ale. The people holding up the flames are not into it either. They're

just doing this. No, you know, I, the bottle. They're dressed like cruise ship staffers. What

is going on? Like I said, people said blockbuster employees. Just, I do think maybe Ian is not

going to the sort of like the Andrew Tate club. Maybe he's a couple rungs below that.

There's no one there in this poor dude who has to hang out with Ian and Miles Chong.

Clearly wants to go to bed. He's so tired looking. These staff, they are just like get me away from

this flame and all that smoke coming off the table. All right, let's keep playing. Let's keep playing.

Okay, I can't get strong. All right, pause. Does that look like a man who's just living it?

This is like a man who's half dead, you know, chasing experimental medical treatments in Dubai.

This place is alive. He writes. Yeah, a lot. He's like a hotel lobby like that lamp behind him.

It's not getting like crazy nightclub. Oh my god. Okay. Well, there's, look, it's obviously

a difficult time for Dubai. I don't want to be there for that reason. But I, even if it were not,

you know, in the middle of a widening middle east war, this looks like hell to me. I would never

want to do that 3M at that club. There is actually an interesting wrinkle here, which is that

was investigated in his native Malaysia because it's illegal to support Israel even rhetorically.

And so at one point, there was a police investigation. Yeah, because after October 7th,

he tweeted like, you know, I hope Israel gets revenge. Someone filed a complaint. There was

a police complaint against him. So in some ways, this is all kind of, you know, he's been very

enmeshed in this. Maybe that's why he lives in Dubai now. Maybe. All right. The other funny

thing that happened over the weekend, I guess, funny only to me and you because she fascinates

the two of us. Oh, no, she's it's funny for everyone who works in democratic politics and probably

a lot of old Biden staffers. Lindy Lee, before we, before we do this, set up who Lindy Lee is.

Because yeah, is a sort of longtime Democrat or was a longtime Democratic fundraiser who,

I think it's fair to say sort of exaggerated her importance. People which she would often be like,

it's like, you know, big time Democrat. And you know, she would get in all these Twitter fights.

And after Trump was elected, she did a sort of the Democrats have gone crazy. I'm a Republican now,

this pivot in that moment where it was sort of like, it looked like Trump was going to rule for

a hundred years. And so now she's become a conservative funder. Yeah, she was on, she was on Fox

repeatedly as the ex Biden official who had turned on Biden or turned on the Democrats and

to become a Trumper. Anyway, she came up and, you know, this weekend she was not happy.

We're going to put the tweet up of her to show she's not, she didn't, not a fan of this war.

Charlie Kirk, I saw they missed today. I am so America first that I am America only now because

of our own houses not in order. I spoke with President Trump Brown on in 2016, 2020. She did not

in 2024. No regime change wars. Branding for our beloved country today and for our

valiant troops. If you lost Lindy Lee, this is like, you know, just like a Cronkite moment probably

for Trump, I'm guessing. Yeah, I mean, this is someone that even a lot of people on the right are

like, this lady's a grifter. You know, she's clearly just going with wherever the wind blows.

And as a result, I think that it's a sign that she's, she's abandoning ship.

Yeah. Now, who's the like, I forget his name already, but who's the wannabe Charlie Kirk,

the, who wears all the, uh, Paul Rylen Holley hand. Uh, you've written about Brian Affair

bit. Uh, he, he, he, he, he was, he was getting into, uh, he was getting into like a lot of, uh,

war cheerleading this weekend and talking about how great it was, right?

Yeah, I, I think he's a big pro war guy. He's putting out the video saying, you know, brace

yourselves America. I mean, now that's a guy who definitely did not, was not alive for the first

Iraq war. No, you know, I mean, it's, it's kind of an interesting thing about him because clearly,

he, he's doing this kind of like old mega punditry or even like old, like, you know, old,

old, not even maga. It's propaganda. It's like, yeah, freedom isn't free and shit like that.

I did like how everyone basically responded to him with a, uh, a link to like, go and list.

Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it is like this guy's like, I think like 22, 23. I mean,

prime age. What are you doing, buddy? Stop making videos. Yeah. He would be like, yeah,

he's like, we're going to hunt down. This is awesome. Rah-rah. It's like, yeah, here you go.

Go in this, buddy. Um, all right. But in all seriousness, just to wrap it up, we're going to,

we're going to fish on Sneco, uh, an internet personality extraordinaire does a lot of streaming.

I, I want to wrap this up in a, in a serious way because look, this is Trump's bait, not Sneco,

but like, maga online personality really did rally around Trump and to the degree that they are

just comforted by what's happening over the weekend. It really matters. Uh, this is a, this is a huge

component of his political support. They don't seem to be on board with what's going on. This is,

of course, happening when traditionally support for the operation should be at their highest,

right? Uh, we took our committee. There is, you know, early success. It's only going to get messier

from here. Um, and so if they are not comfortable, comfortable with what's happening now,

then I would argue that Trump is, I don't know, in a, in a little bit of trouble. And so that's

why I think this is important. Um, he has a lot of political capital with this crew. So we'll see,

but uh, this is not, it wasn't a particularly great development from over the weekend. I don't know

if you feel the same way. Yeah, I do. I mean, I think we're seeing this, you know, I, I think you

hit the nail on the head there in terms of the fact that these right wing media figures are very

influential. And if you start this drum beat of like, we hate Trump, Trump got us into this forever

war. They probably toss in some anti-Semitism. You know, he, Sneco is the guy doing one of the,

the Hale Hitler dance with clovicular back. I forgot about that. And so, you know, I think

particularly with Gen Z Republicans, there's going to be this, this, this alienation. And I think

it could be a real problem for Trump. I mean, particularly, I mean, obviously we have the midterms

coming up. But I think what we're seeing sort of throughout this video is, um, this, this dissatisfaction

among a lot of different swaths and factions on the right. Yeah. So we, we've touched best in

the little place. And you're going to second, but Steve Bannon, Eric Prince, there are, you know,

that faction really came out, firstly, we didn't play him Alex Jones did come out and was, you

know, we're talking about the real nutters. Then you have, you know, the Candace Owens turning point

USA types, obviously they're at loggerheads, but Candace again, conspiratorial nutter who wants

nothing to do with this. But the TPUSA folks were not on board totally. So that's a couple factions

already. Then you have Marjorie Taylor Green warring with Laura Lumer. Uh, so then you have

factions in there as well. And then you have the kind of like, not totally political, heavy,

focused internet personalities. So let's play sneko here again, highly problematic character. Uh,

but this is him just, you know, people listen to this guy. So let's play what he said.

He's 80 years old. Trump is 80 years old and would rather sacrifice his own citizens. He would

rather bring us into another war in the Middle East identical to the others that we've seen over

the past several decades, because he does not want his reputation to be tarnished by the black

male footage being released from obscene island. That's what type of man is in charge of our country

right now. Okay, there's nothing coming. But the absolute thing was a little odd. But look,

there's nothing. Literally nothing. I mean, not literally nothing, but there's not no real

evidence to say he's doing this to distract from Epstein. I mean, anything could be his traction

from Epstein. But this is how people in that universe view this stuff. I'm very curious to see

where Rogan, for instance, picks up on this stuff or Andrew Schultz or any one of those people.

That's right. I mean, like, I think these kind of manosphere people are going to be very dissatisfied

with it. I mean, look, I mean, I hate to say sneko has a point there. But I mean, when he's saying,

you know, that, you know, he's sending people off to die for this war that they haven't really even

explained, you know, they don't feel that we deserve a justification for it. I mean, I think,

you know, he's he's right on there. And you know, I do think just briefly, there was this because

this is the manosphere people, I think are going to be flaking off and the people who watch these

comedy podcasts. I think, you know, there was this California Republican woman who said, you know,

this is good. We need a purge. We need only the loyalists supporting Trump. And at that point,

you know, when you're saying it's good that you're losing support, I don't think things are working

out for you. It's not good. And I'll just know Trump's been making these phone calls to reporters.

First of all, I'm going to, I'd be very interested to see if he starts calling into these,

to these personality shows, right? Because that would be a thing of like calling the magamundan.

I would love that. Donald, come on. But he called the post and he's just like, look,

I don't care about the polling. I'm just doing what's right. When you're saying that to your point,

it means like, you know, things are not going to go great. And we'll see. I mean, we will see,

if you're starting out where basically a good, solid chunk of your base is not happy.

And they're just holding on and trying to make rationalizations like, you know, Chamberlain did,

which is that basically only you could do this. Then you're in a bad, you're in a bad place.

So anyways, we'll be following it. We'll's going to be writing about this, folks. So you should

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It's a good way to start the week, I assume. You learn things like Will was raised in the mean

streets of Dubai. That's why he's a, you know, a clubhound. Smoking the hook at 3 a.m. party of his

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