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details really have you already been at it this morning

no not really just uh got up and hit some mobility and breakfast so I haven't

been up too long oh where are you what's that are you in I'm in Missouri and

you're in so it's let me guess seven a.m. here two are you central yeah yeah

okay so it's nine o'clock seven plus two is nine yeah and my math is

point let's go oh when you say mobility what's that look like

uh gotta just areas of focus for me are areas that I have injuries so I

spend 20 to 30 minutes focusing on angles knees and shoulders is it is it

just like greasy in the groove just like just weightless holding positions

kind of like yeah sometimes some some light weights or bands uh to get into

some positions that you can't get to without weight but nothing super crazy

who um where do you get that from do you use one of those the apps uh I use a

little bit of go odd but then I work with um Lee Pinkham he's uh was our

chiropractor when I was down in Jacksonville uh and so he gives me a whole

bunch of stuff uh to do hey tie who's your coach uh jaden

facatope steward is his name he's uh he's a kiwi but he lives in Australia now

um he has two last names what's his facatawi uh I think it's I think I'm pronouncing it right

I think it's facatope steward but it's spelled w h a k a t o p

wow that's impressive is he um is is that like uh it sounds like some sort of like native

New Zealand islander name is that with the middle name yeah yeah I think is I think his whole

family is from New Zealand okay does he does he got I wonder what's he look like

does he look like a native islander or does he look like a white New Zealand guy

no he looks like uh like most New Zealand Australians yeah crazy like pretty white

that's a that's a wild uh last name that's not his middle name that's his last name

no uh it's his last name how long did it take you to learn that uh I learned it at the last

competition we did together because I asked him I sure have asked him I just went with his second

last name which is steward because I knew how to pronounce that uh but I wanted to make sure I

could get the the other part of his last name right the god what a uh did you

did you feel like a little bit of a success like that was achievement I remember when I learned

how to say Björgven Carl Goodmanson I was like wow I got it yeah yeah now if I did just butcher

it hill let me know uh and then I won't feel as good about it but I think I'm getting it right now

and in this um jaden cat he's part of the brute coaching staff yeah yeah with uh Torres and

L yeah how many coaches are there it's funny I only hear about Torres and L and then I was

listening to your podcast you did with brute and that's when I started hearing jaden's name but I

hadn't heard it before yeah I think only jaden mat and l have games athletes but I think the

coaching staff is there's more than six now I think uh but a lot of them just do they'll do any level

of CrossFit athlete what a crazy stable of uh athletes they have that um not only crazy stable

of athletes they have it's stable of athletes they have that they're successful with right yeah it's

nuts um uh people that they've had forever new people people that you know I didn't think we're

gonna make it to the games that they took to the games that's quite the crew over there yeah for

sure um how did you end up with um jaden and not l or uh Torres uh I moved down to Jacksonville

this was December of 2024 uh because I'd had the opportunity to train with dallen and it just

seems to make everything work pretty well if I was on staff with brute um given that Torres was

there in person uh and he just wasn't taking on new athletes at the time so his thought was to set

me up with a younger coach uh someone I could grow with over what's hopefully gonna be a long career

um and jaden I think is the youngest coach on staff uh but he's very analytical very ambitious

been been wanting to do this for a while at a high level and so we matched pretty well

we tried out I tried out his programming for like a month with no strings attached and then

I was ready to work with him full thing hey was dom down there then dom was not he was already up

okay um so that's um that's this is is getting into a camp like that for you kind of like how

you see in the mob movies like dallen vouches for you like does he call Torres and be like hey I'm

bringing the like they probably have rules like hey don't bring any tom dick or harries around

and then he's like hey I got one this is a real one um yeah I mean I think there's a little bit of

you know that these are not affiliate these uh program wars now I mean especially

everyone likes to compare who's got the best program is it brewed is it mayhem hard work pays off

whatever um but I had just made a or made a connection with dallen over the years obviously we

have pretty similar uh upbringings in the sport with with being team champions um and so he just

told me I I was like is there any way I can learn from you could I come visit Jacksonville um

and he was like dude I think you should move here for a season come come check it out yeah so

I've visited for a week and a half that October like middle of October and then move down

there six weeks later because I I mean I fit with fee and dallen we got along really well

Matt enjoyed having me around so we just all moved down there um it's kind of like if like you

contact a girl and you're like hey would you like to go out and she's like no I want to get married

you're like oh shit what did I said yeah yeah he got more than I expected yeah he took it right to

third base with you because you have to think dallen's not gonna want to bring anyone around who's

gonna um she interrupt his progress at all right so I mean I don't mean to say that

down's a great guy we know it but he has to see some value as much as he's a kind person who's

generous and helpful he has to see some value in bringing you there beyond just helping you like

he's not gonna want to bring someone who's gonna stir the boat I mean he's on the trajectory

to win the games so he can't yeah so it's it's quite the compliment that he would like be like okay

come on side inside this tent I was super grateful and it was the conversation we had where

it's easier for us to get along and train together now that it will be in two or three years

if I'm pushing into that top five podium which is where I hope to be in a couple years he said then

it suddenly it gets a little more tense training because we have the chance to beat each other

but this year it was definitely I mean at the time I moved down I hadn't qualified for the games yet

so it was gonna hopefully be my rookie year so there was no real threat to dallen I think I beat him

at one of 10 events at the game so it was definitely a relationship that works because I wasn't a

threat to him and so I definitely wanted to take the advantage of doing it now while I could

before I was up hopefully on his level soon where it suddenly becomes a little more difficult

to train together yeah it's funny I don't think I think that that is one of those

things that's not talked about a lot are probably really hard to explain with words as you get to

two two or three or four athletes in the same place who are all vying for the old and there's

only one spot there's one little narrow pedestal to stand on only one of us can fit on there

yeah exactly yeah have you ever felt that before with someone that you didn't like growing up

that like oh I don't want to train with this guy have you reached any plateaus where you're like

hey I don't need to be training with this person no not really I think I know I think there's

always times where I'm visiting somewhere and training and I think all of us have maybe a few

of our own secrets or a few things that we do differently than everyone else and maybe I'm not

as eager to share those with with certain people that are maybe younger or on a certain trajectory

but I wouldn't say I I don't get along with anyone in a training sense yet we'll see but I hope

I mean honestly I'd love to be the person like James who's able to host guests all the

times and have no issues with that but it is very different to visit somewhere for two weeks

and live there and train every day with that person for sure and it's probably different to host

female athletes and male athletes right too because then there isn't that so much that concern

yeah yeah I mean you should eat some really high level females and really high level males train

together full time and not have issues because they're not competing against each other

then they probably want to help each other out if they're good friends is it is it it's interesting

in the sport that the men and women can train together and the men can get value out of training

with the women the women can get value out of training with the men right even at the highest levels

it's not like like in tennis you know Serena and Venus would use to train with men all the time

they're not only let them play men but you never heard it the other way around where men were trained

professional you know tennis players are seeking out women to train with or boxing or anything

like that but in CrossFit it works right yeah yeah absolutely there's definitely things where

guys are probably a little better and can give some more advice to the females a lot of probably

weightlifting and machine work and things like that but then the opposite is true where training

with peace agafi I learned a whole lot about you know gymnastics movement efficiency for peace

because she's phenomenal at all those so it is cool that it's a two-way street and we can help each

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and so you've been with jaden now for two years yeah yeah coming up on it do you I know it's

in how old are you again I'm 20 20 holy how old your dad 50

four three oh good you know is it 53 or 54 do you know I just turned 54 it's kind of weird

that I'm getting older than the game's athletes parents I feel bad that I don't know

he doesn't even know he let me say he doesn't even know we don't even know ask 40 you start

he I know he's in the 50 to 54 age group for this year because I I've seen that on his open

finishes solid and that's all you think he's thinking four year increments that's it that's it

when does birthday how about that test he is a March 13 oh I'm a March 16 okay all right that's

how it yeah that's solid I don't know what your my parents were born either so I couldn't I don't

even know how old my parents are you you're just in the group yeah I know I know an ish arrange

yeah I just take him for granted so this you think you'll stay with jaden your whole like when

you look at it you stay with him your whole career that's kind of the hope and the advantage of

having a young coach is that if I have 10 to 12 more years maybe more left in this sport is that

he's still he's not even 30 yet so oh he's young yeah yeah yeah so he'd be willing to do this for a

long time and I mean you never know what can happen but right now with the success we had last

season and how fit I feel right now I'm definitely looking to stay with him as long as possible

do you share him with anybody yeah so now he has a couple high semi-finalists a lot of them

are from Oceania and then he has Janie Shevery who's a Canadian athlete she was a couple spots out

from the games last year so he's got a couple high-level athletes now but by no means he doesn't

have a huge roster so I think I when we were doing the open shows you must have killed one of the

opens because I saw her name yeah yeah she did well on week three I think week three okay because

I remember seeing her name somewhere near the top tell me about training and misery so I

I by the way I watched your podcast with the brute guy from like three months ago you did an

amazing job on that no offense to him you carried the podcast you were awesome you were just like

you were just dumping information it was really good I almost canceled the podcast I'm like oh

shitty already said it all so you moved it sounded like you were in Jackson and brute has now moved

to Nashville and some of the people just instead of going to Nashville they're training remotely

and you've gone back to Missouri that's where mom and dad are yeah yeah and are you back at home

with mom and dad yeah I am for the time being and how is that you love that I know they love that yeah

I mean it's good to be back I think the goal in the next two to three years is to have a house

and I've last couple years have worked outside of CrossFit as well so hopefully that opportunity

is coming up sooner than later but I will gladly you know move back in with my parents they welcome

me back in and it just helps save a lot of money with with how expensive rent was in Florida

and I love this area and it's the area I want to be in and if they're willing to have me here

there's no use of me renting an apartment five minutes down the road so I'm grateful that they

have let me move back in and I don't know how long it'll be but definitely this season I

plan on doing it out of Missouri dude they'll keep you till you they'll keep you till they die

you better be careful check your ankles you they might even change there having a son like you

around would be great um what what did you what did you say something like you can't you you're

also working there was something you said in there that I didn't quite understand you're working

also yeah so luckily I have the best connections in the world uh with the paintless dip repair shop

here um and it's paid by the job work when you can around training they they understand CrossFit

one of them was actually my first the my boss was my first CrossFit coach ever uh and

so it's been very cool to be able to work there but he understands how much training takes

so it's like yeah if you can come in we have stuff for you to do if not we understand go go lift

with heavyweight so it's I've really lucked out with that job opportunity yeah what a cool dude does

that dude have kids uh not yet oh what a cool dude he seems very understanding hey um I don't like

it because I don't want you breathing in that shit making your lungs all sticky yeah it's a

paintless dip repair shop so there's a painting going on no like a pox he's floating around and

shit and and like your lungs are getting stuck together no thankfully okay all right I still don't

I still don't trust it I don't do where we actually spray anything on uh we don't have anything

in spray bottles it's all uh like pretty much polish is the maybe the most chemical thing we

use but that's not sprayed into the air that's like a lotion almost so someone tell me what

happened tell me like a typical job someone will come in with the net and you'll you decide whether

it can be you have to replace the fender or if you have like one of those weird machines that

can suck the dent out so do you have uh do you guys get hail in California uh yeah but tiny

so we get a lot of hail in the Midwest so we'll get a bunch of dent that are like

about that size maybe a little bigger but there could be a hundred of them on a hood of a car

and so as long as it doesn't break the paint if the paint remains intact then the insurance

companies would pay us to fix the dent and push them even yeah that's one that we might say

we're not going to fix that that's crazy dude yeah that looks like acne that looks like that

car is acne yeah that would be a pretty desperate one for us to fix but it's it's dense like that

yeah that's a great example um so you go under the hood and you push them out with what looks

like a metal scythe uh and you're just poking them um and all these guys in the shop that I'm with

have done it a lot longer and are very very good at it so when we're busy in the shop I don't even

push the dents I just take the cars apart and give them the panel they need to fix uh and but they

have a whole system in there they're phenomenal what they do but yeah and then the other way that's

what he's showing and that picture is so you push some of them out and then on some panels you

can't get behind them so you have to use hot glue and then you pull them off um Caleb go back to

that one um go yeah that blue one it says that's all yeah can you fix that no

oh god hey that that must be kind of a gratifying job each bump you pull out it's like popping

a zit or an ingrown hair it must be kind of fun yeah but it can also be very frustrating because

if you're doing it to perfection it's such a fine line that you have to I mean because we're

using a light so you have the panel in front of you and then you have a light in the distance

yeah that light will show you if there's any imperfections in the panel yeah so getting it

perfectly back to zero is so difficult um but these guys I mean my boss has been doing this for

30 years now and it's just a wizard when it comes to dents that's awesome uh okay so so you have

that going and then training and then what's training look like if you used to train with um

how long have you been back in Missouri uh it has been just three months now okay so you go from

this environment with training with these monsters everyone who not only wants to go to the games

but win the games to Missouri where I'm guessing you have no one of that caliber so Christine

Colin Brander lives 40 minutes away okay so that's a lot of that's a lot of knowledge right yeah yeah

for sure um but that's that's the closest I have as far as a games athlete um the Christopher

Fels uh Bailey and Tyler also live about an hour away um but neither of them are training

for the games anymore but it's still there are always someone you can learn something from

but day in and day out there's no games athletes at my gym there's a there's a girl who's made

the team games once um but outside of that it's uh training alone and or with my gym owner um most of

the time and it's in an affiliate yeah yeah table rock cross it table rock and it's not in your uh

garage no no I drive to the gym and how far is that

14 15 minutes it's a bunch of back roads you you ever not gone because the weather was so crazy

uh we've gotten I think I've gotten snowed out of the gym once luckily my truck has four real

drive but there was one day where I wasn't risking it and has that affected your training at all

for good or for bad that you're not with these monsters um I don't know it's only been three months

so I think this season will be the litmus test if I have a horrible season then maybe I am underestimating

how well I've been training without that help but I feel like a lot of the things I learn from

Dallin and Fee I'm able to remember and still apply to my training even if they're not there uh

and I think contrary to popular belief when these camps train together we're not doing the same

workout every single day and racing and knocking each other's heads into a wall down and I would maybe

do one piece a week together uh but for the most part it was about being in the gym with him

watching how he moves you know if we had snatches on the same day we might work in together but for

the most part it was very much just kind of observing and learning from afar for me and then every

once in a while getting to throw down um which usually resulted in a loss for me but was still worth

viewing um just to see how fast he moves on things um but even with them in there there's probably a

healthy amount of pressure right yes like if you're if you're doing a met con or something sprinting

and you know Dallin and Fee are sitting down in the room you're like yeah I have to put it

put a show on I have to go time yeah absolutely um that that is one of the fun parts that I miss

and the open kind of gives you that again even though it may not be against someone

that high level with you uh you can still feel that um doing it by yourself and quarter finals will

feel that way this weekend but that is one thing I did miss was that dose of intensity that I would

get once a week or once every two weeks throwing down with Dallin yeah that's that's interesting um

you don't have any concerns though no I think uh for the most part trainings going well and then

that once or twice a week I need to dig deep and make something hurt I'm still able to uh so

yeah I mean for the most part I think it's been good and with how much Adidas has us traveling I'm

getting to see high level athletes all over the place which has been great and still giving me

that intensity you know when I travel and see James and Jorge Fernandez but we always make sure

to do a piece together and be competitive and have some fun hey congratulations on the Adidas

oh thank you thank you yeah is that something you were excited about how long have you been doing

that so I've been sponsored by them since March of 2024 um I was lucky to be kind of on their

onboarding group of athletes um and so they trusted in me before I ever made the games which is

something really special um and since then it's been amazing there's such a cool brand to work with

they truly serve us as athletes and give us cool opportunities um and then hopefully we're

able to give them some value back because it's it's amazing yeah um and and that in itself is

some pressure right yeah some healthy pressure like hey I want to keep the sponsorship for sure

I want to make them make them proud like they made the right decision uh yeah how did you get that

did you have do you have an agent uh yes yeah I work with Daniel Robbins and he just calls you one day

and he's like hey what do you think about being an Adidas athlete and you're like oh yeah

so he texted me one day this was probably January 2024 and he said hey I've some stuff in the male

he's like try it out training apparel doesn't tell me what it is it shows up and it's all Adidas stuff

and in my mind because Adidas wasn't in the crossfit space yet I was like no way so I try it I'm

texting him I'm like is this actually gonna happen like are they moving into the crossfit space

and he he played it low he was like they're just trying some stuff out about six weeks later I

get a message he goes you ready and then he just sends me a bunch of numbers and stuff and then he

says two-year agreement with Adidas and I was like oh my goodness this is the dream so I was so stoked

and super happy and it's been great and so resigning uh is coming up here and gonna spend a couple

more years with him at least which is which is so exciting so they've already let you know that

they're looking forward to doing more yeah yeah oh congratulations hey who's the first person you

call when when you get that who's the first person you call uh I think at the time I call both my

parents and then my father brothers well mother brothers uh away playing college baseball and

that was exciting because uh his college team right now nickel state is sponsored by Adidas so

it's kind of cool that we're both wearing the three stripes and what we're doing so yeah uh and

your parents were stoked for you yeah yeah they were and that was the first big deal I got as far

as sponsorships in a in a time where I was worried about if I was gonna turn be able to turn this

into a career quick enough and so it was just great timing very encouraging uh and super super cool

just that it happened at that time um in the interview you did with uh on the brute podcast

there was something you said in there that really stood out to me um you said that when you were in

your you you went to the team games uh four times and you won three uh three times and one three

okay what which year did you not go which how old which age division uh 2020 I would have

been 14 years old uh okay so the very first one yeah uh why didn't you go that time you didn't make

it or you didn't try or I didn't I didn't know across it was oh shit all right that's awesome okay I

mean I think I started around that time uh but definitely wasn't competing yet in your in your

sports were baseball and swimming at that time and football and football okay yeah

by the way I heard this great thing uh side note um I heard I had this guy on who held the

world record for the um beer mile it's it's um okay you drink a beer run of 400 and you do

four of those and his time is crazy right it's like four something oh and um and he's uh he's he's

got a he's got a pretty um unique body in the sense that he's a giant dude he's like six three

or six four and he's too big to be a world class sprinter he's he's more like a triathlete

looking type of guy but he's but he's muscular and shit you know what I mean

not like a crossfitter but like he's not a stick anyway interesting guy in any way he

he ran um track all through high school and uh every time swim season would come around his coach

told him hey no more track you have to join the swim team and he asked his coach why oh yeah this cat

and um the coach told him hey swim means the grass the best thing to be good at and to have like

to have like some skills in because it's something you can always fall back to when you're injured

and eventually you're gonna be injured in your career but then you could always go into pool

and maintain it and I heard you in the interview saying that you love swimming for zone two which

is crazy to me that shows what a good swimmer you must be or how you're in the water because it

works out the whole body it's not just sitting on a bike yeah yeah it's I mean I just grew up swimming

I think my competitive swim career was eight years long and then I swam for fun three to four

years after that with the team and just didn't compete because I was too busy with baseball

crossfit um but still love it and down here we have a beautiful lake and I'll swim along the dam

which is like 450 meters one way and it's one of my favorite things to do to go out there and hit

four or five laps and just I mean time passes fast in the water for me I really enjoy it hey that's

a testament to how cool you are you swam on the team for eight years but the coach let you just

hang out for another three even though yeah he must have been frustrated that you weren't competing

but that's really cool that you did that yeah and I mean to be completely honest as I grew into the

high school ages of swimming I wouldn't have been as successful as I was when I was younger I carried

a lot more weight because of my other sports I stayed five foot eight so it just I wasn't necessarily

doing everything I could to be the best I could at swimming because it would have hurt my other

sports so I wouldn't have been as good but uh yeah I still was grateful again just benefits of the

small town you know people and everyone takes care of everyone and our swim coach she was like you

are more than welcome to continue working out with us in the summer even if you don't compete

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at um at it's just so so you so you at 15 you go to the games you in at 16 you go to the games you

in and you know you have one games left and you say in this interview that at that point you turned

to your coach at the time and you're like hey I want to focus on being an elite athlete more so

than winning the um final year as a teen in the games which you ended up winning anyway right

yeah yeah how did you come up with that that seems so like forward thinking for 16 year old

so I knew that what I was good at against teenagers was going to be different than what I was good at

against the elite men for example I was already strong for a teenager but I would have been 39th

that year on the shrink event at the games um out of 40 so obviously that still needed work

even though if my focus was just to win the teenage games I wouldn't have done any more strength

because I was already one of the strongest teens but my conversation there was just that I could

if it came down to me not winning the teen games my final time but making the CrossFit Games a year

early as an elite that was worth this sacrifice in my mind so that's how I trained for that season

I was 17 years old and I was trying to make the CrossFit Games by 20 rather than training for

the teen games um just because ever since my first year in the teens I'm like this is amazing this

is so much fun but we got to do opening ceremonies with the elite division and then the last two days

our competition was over we just got to watch them I knew right then and there that I wanted to be

on that stage with them because it was there was so much energy and it's so impressive what all of them

can do so that's kind of how I structured my third season was like if I want to make the games at 20

I need to start focusing now I can't think about it later um how many years were there between

your last year as a teen and before you made it to the games one one year that I won has anyone

has anyone ever made the leap so Yona Koski and Ben Smith both made the games at 19 so the three of us

are I believe the only three to make it at 19 years old did they have a teen games when they were

competing no I don't think so okay well wow and it was in a to be fair I don't want to take anything

away from them because they're both absolutely insane but it was a different scene back then yeah

a little bit but still I mean I get Yona as well as it works with Adidas and I mean getting to be

around him it's very clear that that dude is very fit and still worked very hard back in the day

when he made it uh and he's a fun one to look up to because he made it at 19 and has since had 10

appearances and I'm like I want a career like Yona's that's very impressive do you think in hindsight

that was critical do you think that that actually helped that you you had that fore foresight

in doing this yes yeah I have no doubt in my mind it made a difference did your coach push back

at all no um she was like this is a great idea uh and kind of something that when it was brought up

we immediately got to work on and I'm super glad we did because it ended up paying off

in in in real in what I'm hearing you say is it was just strength it was like hey

I need to just keep focusing on being strong even though I'm strong enough

yeah so it really isn't enough for where I see two years from now yeah and the conclusion

we came to was that the person that typically wins the CrossFit Games is the best runner that is

also strong and so yeah that was our two focuses is running in strength um and it really began to

pay off I had I had Lucy on the other day McGonicle and and that really is I was asking her if you

could go back and look as a kid what would you tell yourself to work on and um boy would you even

put running ahead of strength yes yeah yeah yeah because it just seems like you got to be you've

got to be I mean just look at the the people who in the games the adlers and uh yeah um uh or

people who do well the Romans the rickies I mean these guys are all James Jason all these guys can run

yeah and it carries over to everything else yes it pays off to be good at running specifically

but if you're working on running your conditioning is going to get better for everything and just

even in a workout with heavy weights if you're not breathing as hard that heavy weight is not going

to feel as heavy so aerobic fitness is just supreme in our sport and so I would have told myself

from the time I was 15 to be more focused on running because I was a decent runner but if I could

have come out of the team division a really good runner or a top 10 runner at the games I would have

been setting myself up for a lot more success I mean look at um even all the combat sports

boxing all that they do nothing that looks like running and those guys run their asses off

yeah yeah exactly exactly they have to be so well conditioned to do what they do and the running

is how they get there um so so how many times you've been to the games now once last year was your

first year yeah yeah and how did you finish uh 15 yeah that's crazy all right it's a I want to say

that I had down on and he had goals in his goal was like top 20 and then top 15 and then

top five and he did it like three years in a row he made and then the fourth year he wanted to win

the games and he he didn't but I mean that's pretty crazy that he had ding ding ding three in a row

goals yeah and you already finished at 15 you put that pressure on yourself now like okay time

to nibble away 14 13 12 11 10 get up there yeah yeah I want top eight this year

the the top 11 last year at the CrossFit Games separated themselves by a big point margin

a little bit where we were at um and then the top seven separated themselves again uh so kind of

my goal this year jump into that secondary pack right outside the top seven and then hopefully

next year strike the top five and then podium and win in the the next few years after that so

was it hard switching coaches um a little bit but I still like to take a lot of autonomy

over my own programming and so it's it was easier than it should have been because Jaden

calls me frequently and we lay out my training together if I was just letting a coach tell me

exactly what to do and follow it blindly then it would have I think been a harder transition

um and when you say you do your coaching um your programming together

when you get on these phone calls do you have like two weeks laid out and he has two weeks laid out

and you guys look at him or do you guys just do it blindly like clean come with a clean slate

no I typically have I look like a crazy person but I'll have a white board with um general

blocks laid out so um I'll be reading off this white board that maybe it doesn't have anything

specific but maybe it has all right Monday I want to back squat and snatch and then I want to do

intervals of workouts that have heavy snatches in them and then that afternoon I want to do my fast run

and then my accessory work that day I want it to be Romanian deadlifts and whatever

and so I lay that out as a Monday and he'll be like okay uh I like that but let's change this

and then we finish the call with this template the skeleton and then he goes back and adds

the specific movement sets reps but we work together on this skeleton how often does he call back

and and be like you know like an hour later and be like oh I was really thinking about it

no we should do this is that pretty good yeah I mean there's been times where I've said something

and he's like I don't think that's a good idea and as long as he can explain why I trust him uh we

had success having a relationship like that this year so I put a lot of respect on what he says

and I think he puts a lot of respect on the way I want to do things uh and it just comes this great

relationship where I'm willing to get shot down and change my mind and he's willing to change

something up for me so it ends up being a pretty special connection that I don't think a lot of

athletes have with their coach biologically speaking just like hormonally as a 20-year-old man

what do you think was been the best age so far like in terms of like just the hormones and the

shit that your body's making in order for you to achieve what you want to achieve I think just

I think every year I seem to be getting a lot stronger and a lot fitter um and that's I put

emphasis on 10 hours of sleep every night because my body is at its peak range of producing

heat producing human growth hormone which is just I mean an absurd um hormone builder raises your

testosterone raises the way your muscles recover and so 10 hours of sleep and tracking all the food

that I eat I think that in combination with what my body's naturally doing is just letting these

years until I'm 22 I think is when HGH production peaks that means I just I just feel like every day

I'm getting stronger and feeling fitter and it's it's been amazing um do you know how old you are when

you started going through puberty I don't even know what the definition let me see let me look at

the deaf puberty is a natural biological process of transitioning from childhood to sexual maturity

I wonder if there's some amount of testosterone increase I wonder if there's like some

demarcation line that actually is scientifically or if puberty is just a um a broad term

yeah I'm I'm curious I know I started getting acne and like sixth grade I think

but I know okay and and that do you remember do you remember all of a sudden is it pretty quick

is it all of a sudden one day or is it like over a month or over a year that you're like holy

shit something's happening to me because I didn't because I wasn't doing anything with my

body except eating cheese zombies in the cafeteria and writing notes to girls I didn't even notice

it happened but I'm guessing someone like you who is tinkering with your body 24 seven whether

even whether you're sleep or you're awake you know you're like oh shit something's happening

yeah so I think before I even started crossfit I noticed a big difference in my swimming

because I grew about six inches I know the leaning out a lot more than I was before puberty

um and so that all the sudden I was like whoa I'm starting to have success here I definitely went

through a growth spurt and then I start cross it at 15 and the year over year difference between

the way my body looked when I was 15 and when I was 16 it was very clear that it was more than just

lifting weights sleeping well and eating right that it was something going on in my body and

even every couple years um or I can look back six months or 12 months and be like whoa I'm continuing

to grow and my body looks different and I think it's just from the crazy amount of

I mean and your nurture yeah and you're nurturing it right as it gives it to you you're using it

yeah holy shit wow I mean you're a big kid there too yeah I think I was 175 pounds maybe that year

so for a 15 year old that's still pretty big but I definitely was not

what I look like now yeah look at your jaw line has changed even that's crazy um let me see

let me see your hand again go like this with your right hand yeah turn it sideways

god you have a fucking meaty palm holy shit that thing is crazy the first time I met Hiller

in person he's like you have some thick wrists and ankles and I don't know if that was a

compliment or an insult to this day but that was his first comment about me I think we're strong

people have really thick wrists and really thick ankles yeah I think that's always a good sign

if you're a man to have thick wrists yeah your palm is so meaty that's crazy

what what year is this how long ago is this oh this is five years ago

31 weeks yeah so four and a half years ago and and how much do you weigh now did you say tie

I'm about 195 now okay so from that that's basically in are you any taller than you were when you were

15 yeah and into two not not a whole lot taller okay so basically in five years you put on 20 pounds

of muscle yeah yeah just it is it steady it's just steady it's just like two two pounds a year

well I actually I made a mistake in 2024 I thought I was going to have success being a little

heavier because I needed to get somewhat stronger so I got up to 210 pounds in 2024

and then one of the first things that happened when I got with brute was Matt Torres was like you

need to lose 15 pounds before a lot of pulusa if you want to do well and I was like yes sir

so lost the weight and then one I was in the RX division but then I want a lot of

blues of that year in the RX division and I was like well I just felt really fit losing all

this weight so then I I cut down to 190 that was a little too white or too light and then I've

settled between 193 and 198 for since then and I plan on staying around there I feel pretty good

fat that makes you fast and strong yeah yeah I good mix it both

crazy dude how fun um where are you doing quarter finals at I'll do them here in at table rock my

affiliate and do you when you look at those workouts are you excited about them yeah yeah I like them

I mean personally I would have liked to see maybe like some heavy snatches or clean battery

for my own success but I understand the way boss and caster have explained that they're

making it a little more accessible I've no issue with that I think it's a good point and

for the guys who want to see the heavy weights when they get to semi-finals I'm sure they'll be there

I am what what's a clean clean battery like just a bunch of cleans like clean like a

oh yeah yeah we we define battery is like heavier weights 70 plus percent for lots of reps in a

workout so um five four three two one uh cleaning jerks at 275 and 10 burpee box jumps between

every uh round I think that was a quarter finals workout like two years ago um that's battery

because it's very heavy for a handful of reps every round so today at noon specific time I think

it's noon specific time you can start doing them will you do one today already yeah I'll go to

the gym and warm up around uh one and then they release that two central um well they're released

the password or maybe no password maybe we're just allowed to start them I don't know how that

works I don't think you need a password but yeah go on I will wait till two to start them in case

I do not want to get in trouble and honestly uh four days for four workouts is plenty of time so no

reason to do them early uh and do you know which one you're going to do today yeah I think I'm

going to start with the row handstand push up uh which I think is in it for and then I'll do the

overhead squat burpee sprint this afternoon as well oh you'll you'll get two out of the way today

yeah I'll go two today one Friday one Saturday uh so that way I can still take Sunday off like I

usually do and then train normal next week and and you always take every Sunday off yeah yeah

and is there is there a reason for that uh it's just one of my busier days and it's not a day that

I have work so in the mornings I've been leading a Bible study and then I go to church and then I usually

take care of anything I need to um mobility uh PT anything like that and then uh the afternoons I

just like to read a book or hang out with my friends whatever whatever feels uh like it's making

me recover you do the Bible study in person or is that online yeah yeah we did in person and when

do you prepare for that uh it's uh I'm reading a book it's called The Men We Need by Brent Hanson

it's very good it's about biblical manhood um and I just read it throughout the week and then I

sit down with handful of high schoolers on Sunday mornings there are a bunch of troopers they

get there at like seven 15 on a Sunday morning right before church uh and we talk about it for an

hour or so and they're squarely bunched so we usually end up talking about the Lord of the Rings

or Star Wars as well but we do a decent bit of talking about the book and then uh we all go off

to church and enjoy our Sunday after that how many how many kids in the in the class so there's three

of us that lead the Bible study and each of us will handle yep that's the book I've really enjoyed

it's easy read it's very quick um so I have five or six in my group every week and then there's

two more groups about that size so there's probably 18 or so kids reading the book total and then

there's three of us who are college age or older who are leading the group um and we kind of split

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could pigeonhole like a stereotype of the kind of kids who are going there a couple of them are

private school that's probably the biggest stereo type but some of them go to the the brands in

public school as well their parents make them go or that they go because they want to go they're

all driving so I think week one a lot of people were told to show up because we gave away a lot

more books than members that we have regularly attending um but the ones that come consistently I

genuinely think it's on their own because they're driving to us and then driving away to their

churches to meet their families after that um and so I think they're genuinely wanting to do it

because their parents aren't driving them they are so did you do that when you were in high school

did you go to a Bible study group yeah yeah I met with our youth pastor at like 5 30

a.m. on Tuesday mornings before school wow yeah I really did it in what sent in what sense what he

taught you or keeping you out of trouble or both yeah both I think just uh having an outlook on

obviously with with CrossFit I'm able to unlike a lot of my generation think with the end in

mind and be patient um and just he was able to share kind of some of the mistakes he made growing up

he's a youth pastor so he sees a lot of kids do stupid things um and just have that advice and then

I also genuinely enjoy his company he's a great dude uh and so I met with him every Tuesday

loved it he challenged me to keep me disciplined and lived my life a certain way and so it was

totally worth it uh 5 30s crazy did your parents make you do that or did you choose to do that

no I chose to do it they were for the first year I did it they were the ones who had to drive me

so they obviously were supportive of me meeting with this guy because they knew what kind of man he

was and what type of role model he was going to be yeah but I think they were grateful once I could

drive myself because it was really early in the morning so you would have these studies and then

um and you would do that and then you would in he would to oh I don't know how exactly how you

worded it but he would tell you how to um challenge you with a certain way to live your life

and you must have seen the fruits of that in order to keep doing it right because if you weren't

seeing the fruits of that then you wouldn't have done it yeah yeah absolutely I mean the biggest

the biggest of which uh and I still kind of one of the biggest reasons that I encourage people

to look into Christianity is just that like the joy of the Lord is real and I live a life that

regardless of circumstances I can have hope that kind of transcends what is going on on earth I mean

look around it's a lot of sad stuff going on and so to have hope that sits above all the evil in

this world is encouraging especially with everything happening now and so yeah I saw that first

hand in my life you know um had a had a friend who got shipped off to Juve about the time I was

meeting with this guy and that really broke my heart but to be able to kind of uh just just live

live through that rough period of my life with with joy that didn't make sense at the time uh and then

obviously be able to speak that joy into other people's lives and encourage them and see what

you know believing in Jesus has done for their lives as well as was worth it for me to kind of stay

the path and I still now I'm trying to do that to other kids uh because I had that guy who was willing

to meet with me every week and so that's why I'm willing to pour back into these kids read a book with

them meet them early on a Sunday morning because it changed my life and hopefully it can affect theirs

what happened to your buddy who went to Juve what did he get out is he out? I have not heard from him

in years I got a random DM one year that he was down in Miami Florida he has a son and that he's

quote stayed out of trouble for a little while and then he deleted his Instagram account

so oh wow and that was one of your best friends yeah he was uh every single class for the first

semester of eighth grade we had together every single hour and um was there a chance that you

were gonna get in trouble too hanging out with him? No I think I think the reason our schedules were

together was because they were hoping I could keep him out of trouble so in a way I felt like a

failure uh because he still managed to get into trouble uh and so for a while I I dealt with this

shame of like man I couldn't keep him out of this uh like I couldn't speak enough life into his life

to where he wanted to change um so I had to deal with that guilt for a little while and again one

of the things that I think my faith helped crazy and great to be thinking like that sorry say

that again that's good that's wild at eighth grade you were already that still for where go say

that again that last part oh just that yeah I feel like my faith was able to help me get through that

guilt and not let it eat me alive because for a little bit I I didn't understand why but I

felt so bad that I couldn't save him from himself almost and the stuff that he was doing but

um it was heartbreaking for a while but ultimately like I began meeting with this uh youth pastor who

had a big role in my life and he kind of pulled me out of a season where I was really upset over what

it happened uh and so that ultimately was kind of what started the rest of my faith journey and

really got me fired up to what to pour into others yeah good on you um I'm guessing that also keeps

you pretty well grounded too yeah for sure six days a week it's like hey I got to make myself

better and then one day a week you can drop all that and focus on making other people better

yeah yeah absolutely and I think ultimately for me CrossFit's a way just to live out my faith so

even though it looks like six days a week is CrossFit one day a week is faith really I take the

faith with me to the gym every day and for me it is a way to glorify God like a way we're having

a conversation right now and even the last time I was on your show we had a great conversation about

Jesus where it it's what has prompted me to compete in CrossFit and so I always want to keep it

at the center because I think uh every time I have success here I'm able to talk about it and

share it with others and it's it really has changed my life and so hopefully it can affect

other people's lives and I've gotten to talk about Jesus with a guy in Germany because of an

Adidas sponsorship through the sport of CrossFit like how cool is that it's very cool I like the way

you worded it to the the I'm gonna probably screw up but you called the joy of Christianity

yeah yeah the joy of the Lord is my strength it's uh something like hey like hey guys it's fun it's fun

yeah well and it doesn't it's not an excuse to acknowledge not acknowledge tragedy right like

we live in a sad world horrible things are happening um and so it's no excuse to pretend those

things aren't happening and have all sunshine and rainbows but it is a way to be like

I know that evil was defeated two thousand years ago when Jesus rose from the dead I genuinely

believe that in my heart um and so there is evil in this world but it can only do so much and it

only lasts while we're here on earth um and so that's that is the joy of the Lord is that despite

circumstances I can have some joy that doesn't really make sense but it it's very real and it feels

very real and it is something that is just very special to me uh and it's also a recipe for your

personal success yeah absolutely it's it's the primary ingredient it's your flour to your bread

yeah and uh it's like putting my faith as the most important thing in my life means that if I have

a really crappy week of training or have a competition where things don't go right like

it's not it doesn't change who I am it doesn't change my value it doesn't mean that I'm

gonna quit CrossFit or get burnout because I'm not having success based off the work I put in um

and in the same way it doesn't let me get too high where if I win it my identity is not CrossFit Games

champion the same way if I don't make the CrossFit Games this year my identity is not CrossFit Games

loser now my competitive spirit inside of me is going to be like that sucks I really want to make

the CrossFit Games like that really stings that I didn't make the games but there's a difference

between that and being competitive and letting it lord over your life and control you and make

you get burnout or feel sick because you failed um well said it's interesting that anyone would

poo poo that I know a lot of people absolutely have no idea what you're talking about or understand

what you're saying but but it clearly is the primary ingredient that um that that feeds you

absolutely and so there's no there's no

yeah I don't I don't know why anyone would try to refute it or push back on it it's like hey

bread is 90% flour like that's just what it is Thai Jenkins is like running off of Christianity like

that's his that's his primary sustenance yeah um uh going to uh semi finals is that uh nerve

racking that there's a strategy or that it's not there's so many there's like too many options

almost like you like the athletes would rather be told hey you have to do this this and this but

now you have to like should I go to mayhem should I go to syndicate should I try to go to south

america what about this last chance qualifier thing at the end yeah yeah it's it's crazy um

so I think last year I thought syndicate was going to be the most nerve-racking competition

I ever did in my life and then the game for dad but that's where I met your dad by the way great

dude great dude yeah he was so cool um so yeah I thought that was going to be the most tense

competition in my entire life and then the crossfit games was the most intense competition

the most nerve-racking competition I've ever done in my life and now I'm getting the feeling

that this semi-final might be it again uh just because I think there's a lot on the line with uh

you know sophomore season it's like was my rookie or fluke time to prove it wasn't so there's a lot

of pressure uh internally that I'm putting on myself to make it back to the crossfit games

and with house sporadic semi-finals are this year I have no idea who's going to show up to any of

these semi-finals right right so it makes me nervous but I'm just going to continue to

do what I had success doing last year which is focusing on my training and

working on my weaknesses and hopefully show up to the semi-finals and kick some butt and make it

back to the crossfit games what is the plan do you do you have a semi-final your eyeing for the first

one yeah it's between Delmar and syndicate and then online is a backup but I'd really like to do

it in person again there's just a lot less room for error and outlier things to happen in person

so when when you choose be syndicate and norcal are the same weekend how do you choose between those

is it proximity or competitors or unless I'm wrong norcal's two spots oh okay and syndicate's three

spots yeah and then I've just heard that I think at one point maybe James was considering norcal

and so it's like well now there's one spot so we'll see but I when I haven't accepted the invite

to syndicate because it was given to me so it's gonna be a great competition or Wilson kills it

yeah I loved it last year it's very well done overall just is that where you qualified last year you

qualified out there last year oh that's awesome and beyond just the events obviously I like the events

if I made it out of there but it was just well run everything was on time it was fun media presents a

lot of people like spectators there in person the teams were there as well it's just a fun environment

Knoxville's an easy city to get around as well so I think it's a fun one that hopefully I get to

go to but if I make it out of Del Mar before then I won't get to go so oh yeah because Del Mar is

not for Del Mar is going to be nice yeah the weather is going to be insane it's going to be perfect

the the lighting the venue the parking the people it's that venue that's going to be

that's going to be a special spot yeah um any thoughts about this xenon thing

this decathlon have you seen this thing pop up on the radar with it's like 10 workouts

yeah I mean it looks fun it's similar to I just did an apex last weekend in Miami it's what is that

tell me what that is so apex is kind of this middle ground between CrossFit and High Rocks it's a

two hour long event where you have a strength station so this year it was a a one rep max trick press

a three rep max back squat in a five rep max deadlift yep here it is and then you had like a five

to ten minute break and then you had a 22 minute amrath one k run one k row they're calling that

like the endurance station and then you have like another 20 minute break and then you finished with

this Metcom that had like ski and burpees in it um and so it was it's kind of like a fun little

three score CrossFit competition but all done within two hours and it when xenon popped up I'm

like hey I've done an apex I bet it's very similar but the thing that worries me about xenon

I don't know how many elite athletes are gonna want to do a max calorie echo bike a max snatch a

max set of ring muscle ups all in the same weekend more than once a year um because we have to

prioritize the health of our joints and stuff and if I'm nervous about that as a 20 year old I don't

know if they're going to get a lot of the overcrowd to do two or three of these in a year if they

want to do like a tour format I'm down kind of um not kind of down turn the assault bike into

something I mean everyone always knew it was scary but what happened at water polusa was really like

yeah like he like he took it he took it to that fucking dog and and no one I haven't I haven't

heard one person say down's a pussy like everyone knows he did that to himself because of the

quite the opposite because yeah absolutely throttled himself like no one's like oh he's something's

wrong with him everyone's like holy shit like he did himself he did himself on the bike yeah I mean

I think a lot of factors played into him getting rabdo on the bike but that one was is it would you

think it was rabdo you think it was rabdo yeah I think it was a small case of rabdo um there was

no doubt in my mind that he gave everything he had and that he got sick but I also think maybe

not everyone needs to be scared of echo bike forever but if you if you look at those events that

he just pulled up yeah it's like there's a lot of lower body already and then a 60 second max bike

and that's kind of how you get maybe not rabdo but you could get sick um if you're doing that

multiple times a year like especially on the lead guy like Dallin if there's other because

that's just Dallin just just going balls to the wall going to a dark place it

truly probably less than one percent of one percent of one percent people would even consider

going to yeah yeah so I don't know like the thought of doing this twice in the same month if

they were like too close to each other events in the US is just not something I think I could do

uh like confidently to not get injured like look at this wonder at max match event one 60 second max

hell echo bike event three event nine's another heavy clean ladder like and then you have seven other

events where you're probably going to be sending it pretty hard yeah because they're all like

conditioning based stuff so I think it's going to be a lot on the body but who knows maybe this

first one some elite athletes go to and they come back and they're like no it was great and maybe

I'll do one eventually but I don't think I can work the Dallas one into my season this year

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no that's like a rocky movie isn't it yeah yeah he dies yeah if he dies he dies um are you

you're not in school now no um just going to be really expensive to go back after the first two

years and essentially at this point it's a plan C because plan B if I get some injury that doesn't

allow me to do crossfit is just to fix cars um and so I don't if that happens I'll pick up studying

again but for now I didn't see any use it chucking a lot of money at what's a backup backup plan

but I did I did a year of online college yeah hey um use I think you hinted in the beginning that

your goal is to uh get a house yeah yeah that is one of your goals to purchase a house yeah yeah good

on you uh I was so impressed with um I don't know if you're familiar with Lydia fish yeah yeah

they just got a house she got married and moved into a house in the last six months

yeah and she and like when she's at the game she's thinking about shifts of going back to work

to make more money I'm I'm so impressed by that yeah I'm hoping for someone like her she can get

sponsors to where she has income um and she can choose the work when she wants to

because a waitress would be a tough job with crossfit being on your feet for 12 hours and then

training is probably really hard yeah really hard and and what's crazy too she loves her I think

she absolutely loves her job oh yeah that helps same here like I love the the guys in the shop

and love being around the um the paintless day repair crew and so it makes it easier for me to want

to a stack work on top of training uh and then living at home you're able to save money

yeah yeah so I'm chucking as much as I can into out of financial advisor we're throwing a lot

in the long-term investment and hopefully um have a house fund here in a couple years

yeah you're going to be so happy you did that what it what a so smart you're starting that

really what what does a house cost in in Missouri um like what would be a quote a starter house

I could find something probably around two hundred thousand dollars that's not uh and I saw

but I mean something that it's not falling off the foundation yeah yeah yeah something that I would

want to raise a family in around here is probably with the proximity to schools and stuff would

be half a million dollars or so for a nice nicer house I know that probably sounds dirt cheap

compared to California but uh the Midwest is nice in that way um uh when when I bought my first house

I wasn't until I was 43 but I remember I was looking at this house and it was like

it was four hundred thousand dollars I think and it was a complete piece of shit but it sat on one

city block like they had the whole block but the house was a complete piece of shit I mean like

um a complete disaster and like you couldn't even move into it and then there was another house

that was only on two thousand square foot lot as opposed to a 20,000 square foot lot or 25,000

square foot lot and all my family pushed me towards buying the smaller house that you could move

into all my friends and family in hindsight I should about that shithole because like that

property like skyrocketed that property is like worth like three million dollars now yeah

I almost even if you do buy a piece of shit um it'll be your piece of shit and it will increase

in value yeah I almost want to do a fixer upper um especially if it's soon and I'm still welcome

in my parent's house because then you know if I someone has the work in there for two days and

it's not livable for those two days I can crash here um but I would like something that I could

fix up and sell someday or maybe rent out I know James is playing the the landlord game which

seems smart with how young he is to try to make some passive income so my favorite content that

Frazier ever made is when he moved when he first moved to Vermont it was all that fixer upper footage

like if him working in the barn and drilling and knock I was like holy shit this shit is cool

I'm like yeah I think I think men I think we are like innately deep down we love the work

with our hands yes I think there's something to say about that a very high percentage of

construction workers and brick layers and like they're all a lot of them are men because I think

I think guys tend to enjoy that a lot yes working in the garden is dope that's uh kind of kind of

poetic you know we believe that Adam and Eva created and God the first commandment he gives Adam

is that this garden is yours work it and keep it the first job man forgot was to to work a garden

so it's no wonder we like working with our hands yeah yeah the garden the garden is the best the

garden is the best place I'm obsessed you grow stuff yourself yeah tons of stuff that's awesome

yeah I but I fucked up my shoulder for two years because I dug over a hundred three by three

foot holes in the ground I planted over a hundred fruit trees in three years oh my goodness yeah

and I'm just a nut like I like whether it's raining or anything my kids think I'm crazy but they

love it too and I can tell it's like um it's affecting like they are gonna have the same bug I did

I got it from my dad and now I can tell they're gonna get it too that's awesome that's so fun I've

passed the gardening disease um you did a high you did a high rocks you've done a couple high

rocks is uh I did one I did two races that weekend but I done one high rocks yeah okay and and

um they were both uh with a buddy yeah uh one of them I did with Jorge Fernandez the other I did

with uh Elena Rocal who is uh just a good high rockser that's also sponsored by Adidas

and and what motivated you to do that did you like it um Adidas sees a lot of promise or promise

and uh future in high rocks uh apparently their business plan is legit and they're on pace uh for

what they want to do so they have a high rock shoe that dropped in March so in January they were

like hey would you come to high rocks Phoenix and uh just run a race and dip your toe in the water

so that when we release this shoe you can actually vouch for it so yeah Jorge and I ran a

uh time that actually qualified us for the world championship so it's crazy yeah and June we're

gonna make a little three-day trip over to Stockholm uh to run that race just cool experience to do

while the sport's still young because I think in a couple years if it keeps growing we won't be

able to just walk in and qualify for championships did you train for this or did you just bring your

crossfit training there just brought my crossfit training I think I run a lot for a high rock or

sorry for a crossfit athlete yeah run a lot more than most people do so I was prepared um but yeah

I just kind of I didn't do anything specific for it that's that's wild what what is the fastest

double-time ever you know I think it's so I think it's under 15 minutes I think uh some of these

guys are ridiculous because they're running like five-minute miles on these 1,000 meter runs I mean

well like five thirties it's crazy how fast they can run and for how competitive you are was it hard

going there yes yeah yeah I'm like how are these I was so mad every time we get past but then I would

have to tell myself I'm basically running with two weight vests on compared to those guys um but

that's even not a great excuse they're just insanely fit at all the running things they do but I

think Jorge and I had like the best sled push split at this race or one of the best ones and we're

like there we go that's the crossfit yeah because when I see the guys go there um I I don't see anyone

judging them like I never hear anyone say see um these crossfit or sucker anything it's always like

kudos to them and it's a great time yeah it seems like the hierarchy group is really welcoming

but on the other hand it's like holy shit you guys are so competitive and so to get out of your

wheelhouse and put it on the line um you could be seen as you're exposing yourself and I was like god

that must be hard for how competitive they are they don't want to like be seconded anything

yeah yeah it is tough not I've always said since I was a kid it sucks to not be the best that's

something I just started doing um like I always hated growing up trying something new and not

immediately immediately being good at it but then there's also this like thing of stubbornness

inside of me that's like all right now now I love this because now I want to be the best at it

and I want to train for this so the the challenge mentally right now for me is to not add extra

running to try to be better at high rocks I need to focus on uh crossfit and just go to the

the championships and enjoy the experience without feeling the pressure to train specifically for

that because it's so close to the games it I don't want it affecting my games performance um my kid

my kid's been playing tennis all my kids been playing tennis for years and the tennis coach said

something to me one time he goes yeah he said the really um sticking point for kids in sports

is around 12 or 13 years old and I go what do you mean and he goes because the learning curve

needs to be just still always learning but when you're 12 or 13 your ego kicks in and you start

wanting to win more than you want to learn and he said and so some kids just stop and just use what

lets them win as opposed to getting better does that resonate with you at all being that you're 20?

um I think I learned this lesson playing baseball about that age where I had a coach who very much

instilled humility into all of us uh with an iron fist at times but I'm very grateful for it

and something he would always say when he would catch us like I might throw be playing catch

with my partner and be like oh that curve ball was nasty and he he would always say it's like

engraved in my brain he said if you're really good at something you shouldn't have to say it other

people will talk about you um and so that was a lesson in humility very early on um to where you're

just like not always as good as you think you are in your own mind and so along that line is where

in baseball yeah there's things you can get away with and have success with or you can look to

the future and be able to be coachable and continue to grow the skill curve um and that was instilled

into us by that coach and so I'm grateful for that but yeah it was uh humble yourself and be willing

to learn still be coachable because he didn't care how naturally talented you were if you weren't

being coachable you sat on the bench so uh I learned from a young age thankfully and then moving

into the crossfit space is the same thing like last year I moved down to Florida and I'm starting to

see a lot of success in this sport but every day I'm in the gym I'm like Darwin I'm gonna at the time

second fitness in the world I need to be learning everything I can from him like just because I'm good

at burpees doesn't mean I can't get better at them by watching what Darwin's doing and so in crossfit

where over 200 movements like they have uh they can pick out of a hat over 200 movements to throw

at us at a competition you always still have to have that learning curve even at 20 even at

25 I'm sure James is still learning things um because there's so much skill involved with our sport

which is cool and scary uh and frustrating so many different things but I'm great before it

at the end of the day the paradox is you have to have crazy self belief but also be humble yes

yeah you have to be confident in what you're doing and know that you're doing it well but at the same

time know that there is room for improvement in those things always like my Olympic lifting

Kristoff Horvath when I was in uh Germany over there I was doing some cleans in front of him he's like

you lift like an American come to Budapest I'll teach you how to weight lift so I may or may not be

going to Budapest to splinter uh to go learn some Olympic lifting because I don't know if you know

but he had like over 400 pound clean and jerk and wow I didn't know that but he's built like a

fucking Mac truck yeah but he's like lanky he's not really built like an olive lifter but so I

might be heading over there to get some Olympic coaching at some point uh oh how fun how fun

and um uh his sister's an adidas athlete right yeah yeah Laura is an adidas athlete and then

Kristoff does media for adidas he's usually running out of the camera at all the events yeah

oh that's cool I had no idea oh good on hey did you have did you have aspirations to play

professional baseball yeah yeah so my dad played in college and was approached for an opportunity

to play uh some minor league ball and ultimately turned it down um to finish college and because he

was in love with my mom so I grew up with uh girls hurt the program and you want to be a professional

baseball player uh and I rode that dream for a long time and still love baseball so much I went

and caught a game when I was in Miami and still love baseball so much but when I saw the pivot

to CrossFit and was having more success over here and very much loved the sport of CrossFit

I made the change but until then yeah I wanted to play college baseball and work my way up to the

pros from there was that painful saying goodbye to that very yeah it was one of the harder things

I've had to say goodbye to in choosing CrossFit uh and because I I did love baseball

yeah that's wild um do you have a girlfriend yeah yeah I'm dating Janie Chevery

oh is she in Missouri no she lives in Calgary Canada oh and did you guys meet through CrossFit

so she trained down to Jacksonville with us all last year oh that's right okay you said that

oh and uh has that been a disruption no no I think we both balance it well because we're both

high level athletes we understand training comes first until there's a ring on it and we're married

and then we put each other above uh our careers but until then it's it's the other way around uh

and then with distance you know it's not like we're you know going on dates late at night um

because we're so far away we don't see each other but you could be on the phone until

yeah yeah I mean there there are times where I'm like hey like we're sitting down on a call and

I'm just like hey I got to be off at nine thirty I got to go to bed um but there's an understanding

there for sure yeah that that's awesome uh and in what was the is that scary um dating someone

that's in the training space like if something goes sideways um I mean a little bit yeah yeah it's

like if something goes sideways then we're seeing each other at every event still but there are

some ex couples that make it work still in the CrossFit space so I didn't necessarily shy away from it

yeah good and I and by the way I think that um I don't condone that either uh

shine away from it if you feel something could go with it if you end up getting heartbroken

deal with that too yeah for sure don't don't be afraid a little heartbreak oh well that's cool

uh and uh last year um two thousand twenty five nine events uh ten at the games ten

um this year two thousand uh twenty six what's the plan of how many events you'll do

oh sorry sorry sorry last sorry not ten events of the games last year you went to nine different

competitions sorry yeah sorry these words I'd use the wrong word last year you went to nine different

competitions this year um you've done water polusa yeah so six in person competitions and then

plus the open and quarter finals is the plan for this year um and then I did a high rocks I've done

an athex I'm doing another high rocks and then holy shit there's an opportunity this fall to maybe

do something for adidas and they tell me to go somewhere I'll go uh but as far as a crossfit competition

that I'm actually prepping for we're gonna de-load into and really give it an effort just six this

year um and in like a adidas competition would be like something like like those red bull guys do

where like you do some random that you know that cowboy thing that they do that like Trista Smith

and Ariel Lohan did like something like that might pop up yeah anything that's a one day competition

that is just an easy weekend trip uh is a little different because it doesn't take as much out

of your cns uh you can be in and out really quick you can train around it like after the high rocks

I went and did some strength stuff high rocks isn't enough to put you in the dirt for the rest of the

day uh on our level uh but then stock homes gonna be weird because it is a one day event but it's

international travel so i'm curious how that'll feel but six big crossfit competitions is the goal

the three wfp tours it's waza syndicate or delmar wherever i make it out of and then the games so um

um i just want to address uh miss jenny here really quick uh

uh jermy uh ty is a man of god austin is a douche austin is not a douche

i like austin i love austin he was very very respectful after water polusa given

i know he was frustrated because that final event was good for him um and he sent me a very thoughtful

message uh so i have a lot of respect for austin after after this weekend oh wait what do you mean

in thoughtful i i love him he's cool as shit um we're talking about afield right that's up that's

what i assume yeah happy yeah what do you mean what do you mean um he sent you a message regarding

what were you guys on the same team or like no uh he was sitting in third and i was sitting in second

and that final event was really different so it was going to be interesting what happened

yeah and so he just said something like uh along the lines of like it's unfortunate the last

event was canceled he's like but you don't work your way into second place by accident he's

like well done this weekend excited to compete against you the rest of the year something just

what a stud yeah very class very respectful uh yeah so i like austin got a couple brownie points in

my mind after that i've always liked him but i like like a little more now so yeah he's cool i like him too

i don't think people i'm realized too like how much is piled on your guys' plates in terms of

interaction and judgment and for how young you guys are yeah so like like he does one thing online

and like everyone's like may like it or not like it and it's like hey dude he's fucking like

he's he's a young man just feeling his way around in the world show a little fucking compassion

for sure he didn't rob a he didn't rob a bank or anything he's cool yeah he's cool as shit

all right well thank you for coming on um okay uh final thing um any recommendations for anyone

uh who would like to pick up the bible oh yeah i think the best place to start is uh the gospels

john those are the dudes who hung out with jesus and told like what it was like hanging out with them

yeah yeah so four four books Matthew, Mark, Luke and john i prefer john it's written in the way that

is the easiest for us to understand because it was written to Gentiles so non-Jewish people at the time

um and the Jewish people of the time would have just understood the old testament a lot so john is

nice because you don't have to understand the old testament as well to understand what john talks about

so john and then a version i would read it in is like in iv it's probably the easiest to understand

new international version it's just in conversational english it's going to be well to understand

um so that's probably where i would start and then if that interests you the other

three gospels so uh Matthew, Mark and Luke are the same story told from different points of

use so have a few different interactions um a few different points of view and then we'll repeat

the stories of the crucifixion in resurrection um and so that's where i'd start and then i

yeah i would say anyone that is reading that and has further questions i love to talk about this stuff

some ideas are very open and when someone picks up and and reads um uh john um should they

just read it with an open mind or should they read it with um some thought and mind um looking for

something or just come to it with a complete clean slate um i would i would come into it with the

complete clean slate regardless of what your background is if you're coming from another religion

agnostic or you or just a hater or just a hater like i would i would read it with an open mind and then

i would underline stuff that you don't understand um but i would be very careful to just throw it

into chat gpt to explain it to you um and i would look for like podcasts on the subjects from pastors

of churches like lake point or the ac podcast or great people who really spend a lot of time in the

bible where sometimes a quick google search or chat gpt can be more confusing or misrepresent

what it's actually about um but yeah like i would say underline stuff and just uh that you don't

understand and either be willing to come back to it once you finish reading it because it might

have sorted itself out or then be willing to ask questions uh but you can with anything on the internet

and this is the same for like research about fitness as well you can always find the answer you're

looking for so yeah yeah yeah i mean like a very easy example of this is does intermittent fasting

work if you you can look it up two different ways you can look up why does intermittent

minute fasting not work and you're going to see a study that shows that it has no benefit

and then you can read does inner or is intermittent fasting good and you're going to find a study that

it's a holy grail of health yeah people people can spend the research to say whatever they want

and so it's very similar with the scripture because especially because it's written in a different

language and translated you get a lot of people who will make it fit what they think it should say

um as opposed to actually studying the original language and coming up with a conclusion

for the parts that are hard to understand but luckily the book of john is not where a lot of

that stems from very easy to understand especially in the new international version very easy to

understand shouldn't be a problem but again if there are i'd love to talk about this stuff so shoot

me a DM on instagram if anyone does read it and has questions you know what i've really enjoyed talking

to you why i've enjoyed talking to you as you say things that can be a bit abstract and then you

all like most like 99% of people do and then you always say not always but regularly say for example

and then you fucking just anchor it right in the ground and it's so it's so important because it's

so people are so misleading when they don't do that i'll give you an example too of coming to

people who don't come to it with an open mind and these are uh fault a lot of Christians as much

as non-Christians with this there are people like i'll just meet someone and they'll be like

Christianity's true because and they don't realize that they're coming at it with their

their thought is yeah decide whether it's true or not and so someone might be reading john and be

like this isn't true or this is not true and it's like hey dude drop that story and just read it

yeah just read something something will come to you but but if you're look you you have to acknowledge

that you're looking through the filter of whether it's true or not that that might you might miss

the whole point if that's what you're trying to pass it through yeah absolutely and so it's a good

example and also going to the when you said the joy of Christianity my buddy who i don't even know

if his Christian or not i just remember one day was reading the bible and then um when he was

reading it one day he got on a plane and he wasn't in a good mood but he likes to read on planes and

he picked up by way goes you know the one thing that is weird every time i picked that book up when

i'm done reading it i'm in a better mood it's crazy well that's something i was like wow i didn't

i didn't have that on my bingo card from david caster today yeah and what's interesting about the

bible whether you want to take it as religious truth or not it is if you read through that book and

you apply anything that it says in there to your life there's no way it doesn't get better like

as opposed to some other religious books there there is nothing in there that is violent or

demeaning or terrors down others it genuinely is a very unique book in that way uh but then

obviously like i don't believe it to just be a good moral teaching book uh there is religious truth

in there um but one of my favorite things about like studying the bible is that depends who you're

talking to but there are ways to uh you know just like share about the bible without just using the

New Testament for example if you're talking to someone who's like Jewish in faith then you can

prove Jesus was the Messiah through the Old Testament which is what they read so instead of our

bible with the New Testament the like the Old Testament can prove Jesus's existence and then with

someone who's an atheist and doesn't believe the bible's true there were Roman historians who wrote

about a miracle worker named Jesus who reportedly rose from the dead three days after being killed by

the Romans like they're they're that's what i love about having civil conversation about

the bible is because there are ways for everyone to be able to see it if they come in with an open

mind word you demand ty Jenkins good luck today thank you thank you thanks for having me honest yeah

which which one's gonna be your best workout um if i execute correctly the shuttle run overhead

squat burpees sprint i'll i like sprints that involve burpees and is that the one you're doing second

today uh yes yeah all right dude good luck love having you on been too long yeah thanks for having

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hours from now yeah five hours that's a whole day from now what that's a whole day five hours

do you know how much shit i'm gonna do in five hours holy shit like that's like 200 games of

class royale five hours from now we will have a spy camera at the proven headquarters by the way

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tia i i i just view colton as a giant can of lube he really is colton colton i just see

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i had to lather the my whole body before i put it between my butt cheeks you know what i mean

to get like to work off the so you don't cut your fucking asshole open before i don't work

the edges you you got to lather like two dollars were the soap in your hand before you get it

between your butt god damn that shit man it's so lathery i get so i'm i've always been a soap

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the one uh one bar of soap that i was always scared to that i was scared to use ever

was the grenade one from talks about oh yeah i don't that's so scary yeah i'm gonna

it's just it's just gonna cut me up and do not let that thing get near your cock and balls

or your bubble yeah uh my dad has been a missionary so i just read

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in some of the most remote and dangerous countries in the world and my ego pops up and i'm like

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that's cool for all these texmas

um i uh sheshawn mackle be here taylor will be here

possibly jr kaleb will be here uh doing low man on the totem pole shit at uh

i just realized i might be running a little late but i will be here

hi hi hi jayars like i can come on but i'll come on it uh and it was like 15 minutes after the

show starts i'm like dude he was gonna be done yeah hopefully he's gonna be we'd be here by 130 to push

go yeah i should be i have i have uh i forgot i agreed to do some work stuff so

all right well we may or may not have a clock if we if we have a clock thank uh kaleb if we don't

have a clock uh just send your hate to cb for just play on me yeah it's one uh grenade isn't a butt

plug no it's it's a menthal um you won't like it near your butthole it can be if you try hard

and believe in yourself it's got a flared base you're so much more positive and that's taking

all right and then so so what do i do today i do so uh i get off this show i hang out for five

hours and play with my kids and then we cold mertens uh alive from proven that's gonna be so

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uh right after that i'm going on the glinton things oh i hope i don't say anything stupid

oh wow could you possibly jenny is a genius

it's between you and hers most valuable player and suza and taylor it's a four-way tie

and brad and brad sorry and brad

everybody's great everybody's amazing i just it's just crazy the shit that you guys do it's so

fucking good all right uh sunday i don't know what's going to happen for sunday show um

suza and i won't be here uh we're headed off to the uh nor cow classic uh we're going to head over to

the venue see what to try to figure out if we're any better than we were last year

i'd really like to make uh blare and ben proud i'd really like to crack the code on that

you put starlink on top of a oh we're gonna try i mean i got i got a uh i got one of those um

spear guns that you use for getting fish i'm gonna put the starlink on it and shoot it up over one

of those big trees fuck yeah brilliant yeah uh i was gone from most of the show uh what did i miss

well you missed us invoking uh god um and uh talking about dating

oh this is my starlink with the drone wow you you've been seeing what they've been doing in

russia versus ukraine you heard about that no tell me they're doing that yeah dude they're taking

so for a while start they were but russians were buying starlink and throwing them on drones and

then fly so that way there was uh there was no way to um like cut off the signal because it was

connected to satellite i think i'm not 100% sure but that's i'm pretty sure that's what was

happening and then eventually uh Elon caught wind of it and he just deactivated all the starlink

accounts that were coming out of russia so why he didn't like the russians are the russians the bad

guys in that war yeah i mean russia's russia man russia urusa but they were just trying to get their

ship back i don't give a fuck what they're trying to do uh a drone was replacing the long-range

multi-mode fiber yeah there you go i can't use commercial stuff for war oh interesting

what the fuck shut up uh the cia is the bad guys in the war

yeah all right kaleb's missad everyone knows that yeah probably fuck it

all right um i think that's it i think i've read a few of the text messages uh so be here uh we'll

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um okay we will see you guys in five hours thank you thanks kaleb talk to all you guys later

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