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Good afternoon, today is Monday, the 12th of January, 2026, just after 1 o'clock.
Welcome to UK Column News, I'm your host, Brian Garrish.
To always have Ben Rubin with me in the studio.
And we'll also be joined by Mike Robinson, who is in studio 2.
Now, a lot happening in the world so much so that many people say,
my goodness, what is actually going on, so we've got the wars,
we've got America seeming to be able to claim any country in the world it wants.
If it dislikes the incumbent regime, we can stop oil tankers on the high seas.
It almost appears as though the world so-called rules-based international order
is out of control and not a truth in that.
But I wanted to just bring people's minds back on a case,
which has just produced a result, a lot of reporting UK press.
And this is about the Guantanabe torture prisoner,
who's just won a case and substantial sum from the UK government.
And the reason this case appears to me, at least, to be so important,
is it really lifts the stone on the conduct of the UK government.
At the time when the UK is strutting the world stage
and telling other countries how they should conduct their affairs.
So let's just delve into this article a little bit.
And this is the headline here,
UK piece of substantial sum to torture Guantanabe detainee.
And we've chosen the guard in as this main headline.
But it says that lawyers for Abu Zabadaya
accuse British intelligence services
of providing questions to his CIA interrogators.
Well, that sub headline is a very small part of the story.
This is what I want to pick up on,
that the excellent legal team this man has had
have highlighted, I think, some really important points
that everybody in UK should be paying attention to.
They say that the case has relevant lessons for the UK.
Today highlighting the legal and moral risks
involved in cooperation with the US at a time
it is violating international law.
And I think Ben, that's really on the button
that we've got the US now, more or less,
appearing to be out of control on the world stage.
And this judgment is telling people
they should be very, very cautious about
not only what America is doing,
but also what the UK government is doing
alongside America, particularly with regard
to the so-called war on terror
and the use of intelligent services.
Just to give a bit of substance to this report,
I brought up here the press summary
from the 20th of December 2023,
which was talking about the case, Zubei,
Zubei, versus the foreign Commonwealth
and development office and others.
And the key thing to remember is that this man,
tragically, has been held in Guantanamo Bay
since March 2002, not only without charge,
we also need to recognize that the US
no longer claims he was even a member of Al Qaeda,
let alone a senior member of that so-called terrorist
organization.
So if we delve into the document a little bit,
with a little bit more detail here,
we can see that we got a background to the appeal,
concern with the law applicable to tort civil wrongs,
alleged were being committed by the UK security service
and the UK secret intelligence service.
And it goes on to say the claimants
of Palestinian national who's been detained
without trial by the United States authorities
since 2012.
And he was also moved around CIA so-called black torture sites
in a number of cases.
Now, the key part of the case hinged on whether
he had the right to seek justice at law
in the countries in which he was held
or he could come back to the UK
or he could seek redress from the UK.
And the key bit to remember here
is that six countries were actually involved
in his trail of torture.
And that was Thailand, Poland, Morocco, Lithuania.
Let's highlight those, Afghanistan,
and Cuba there with Grantanamo Bay,
the so-called six countries.
And he bought his claim naming
the Foreign Commonwealth and Development Office
and the Home Office and the Attorney General in UK
as defendants.
And so this is the meat of it.
And finally, judgment by the Supreme Court dismissed it
and appealed against the man on the basis
that the law which should apply to his case
is the law of England and Wales.
So that itself was very a very important decision.
And that has then gone on to mean
that effectively the government has settled
out of court with a substantial payment.
Now, I think it's important for UK society as a whole
to realize that the UK government
is now making a substantial payment.
They're not declaring how much money that is,
although his legal team says, well, of course,
on the basis of the length of time
that he's been held without trial
and the appalling torture that he suffered,
this money is insufficient as well it may be.
But also, we're not getting any formal statement
from the UK government as to the background
of the torture, all the UK government's involvement
in that torture.
So everything's now focused on the money
and it's interesting, Ben, isn't it?
We often see this with the, with people
who are survivors of abuse in UK
that once the compensation comes in the fact
that crimes took place against them
disappears into the long grass.
Yeah.
So, and they actually admitted any culpability?
It was not that I am seeing in the reports.
And I think this is about many people would say,
well, if you're going to pay money,
surely that admits your culpability or reliability,
but at the moment, to my knowledge today,
we haven't got any reports about more detail.
Now, his, his legal counsel, a lady called Helen Duffy,
I think made some really important statement.
She said it's important symbolically and practically
that UK pays for its role in our client's torture.
And I think she's talking in a financial sense here,
although that's slightly ambiguous.
And she goes on to say,
the settlement provides a measure of retress
and implicit recognition of our clients
in tolerable suffering at the hands of the CIA enabled
by the United Kingdom.
So there's lots to be asked about those words
and also lots to be asked about what the UK government
has and has not admitted.
Now, just to make sure that people understand
the severity of what's gone on here,
this is not a very good picture,
but at least a picture of Abu Zabadaya.
And what actually took part,
what took place around this man?
What was he subjected to?
Well, if we bring a bit of this on screen,
he was water-borted at least 83 times.
Now, water-bording is just a nice term
for the fact that you're subjected effectively
to controlled drowning.
He was locked for days in a coffin-sized box.
He was left in his own urine and feces.
He was stripped naked and beaten.
He was suspended from hooks.
And he was kept to wait for days.
And if he passed out at any stage during this treatment,
he was doused with cold water in order
to bring him back conscious so that he could be subject
to do further torture.
All of this known by the UK government
and condoned by the UK government
because they were encouraging our special intelligence services
to submit questions for him via the CIA.
So truly, truly shocking what went on here.
Now, if we just investigate Helen,
the legal counsel a little bit further,
we can find that previously she's done some very good talks
about her concerns about what's been going on
with regard to the so-called global war on terror.
So she, in a lecture hosted by the University of Manitoba,
talked about the dubious but tenacious legal claim
of by the US of the global war on terror
with extremely serious implications.
So dubious but tenacious.
She's also talking about confusion and conflation
of conflict and counterterrorism,
which I think is something we are all seeing more and more.
We're not sure whether things are being done under the law
or whether they are being done by agencies
running out of control.
And also she's talking about the global militarization
of counterterrorism.
So very, very important questions.
And I think this lady absolutely on the button.
And here under the headline of the war,
the war, the enemy and the other,
it's all become very gray.
She talks about a war on what?
What are we actually fighting?
This is not always well defined.
And so she says that it's got scope,
which is questionable and an insidious spread.
And how are we going to look back
on the forward reparation and accountability?
And maybe that was a little bit of a look into the future
for her when she, with regard to the case,
which we've just discussed.
Now, if we set all of that horrible case,
those terrible tortures and the UK government's complicity in it,
we can say, well, it appears the UK government
has been out of control.
And if you're thinking that you'd be absolutely right,
except now, in 2026, we can say with certainty
that the government in UK has given itself the ability
under law to break the law in order to carry out
these sorts of crimes under the label of keeping us safe.
Let's have a look at a report that,
White Robinson gave on the UK column news a couple of years ago.
On Monday, we had the second reading
of the covert human intelligence sources criminal conduct bill 2019-2021.
And Julian Lewis, so we've just been talking about it as chair of the ISC,
was giving it all the support that he could.
So clearly, the intelligence and security committee
is not concerned in any way about this.
Now, let's just remind ourselves what this bill is about.
It is a bill to make provision for and connection
with the authorization of criminal conduct
and in the course of or otherwise in connection
with the conduct of covert human intelligence sources.
So this is all about the criminality
allowed by agents of the government, various government departments.
And we'll remind you what the government departments are in a moment.
But James Brokenshar was the minister of state
who was giving the information there where they're from.
I'm not quite sure, originally,
but anyway, he was the relevant minister
giving the statement in the House.
This legislation he said is being introduced to keep our country safe
to ensure that our operational agencies and public authorities
have access to the tools and intelligence they need to keep us safe.
So Mike, let's just bring you on screen
because of course, as a package,
the evidence to me is irrefutable.
We've got a UK government that's not only out of control,
it has been breaking the law,
these terrors of torture,
but it will continue to break the law
because it's given itself permission to do that.
At every level, Brian.
So last week on Friday,
we were talking about the killing of the Lidian in the United States
by ICE officers.
We've got covert human intelligence act there
because that was a bill when we were talking about it
with the SNIEN Act, so that is the law.
And a couple of dozen government departments
allowed authorize criminality.
This completely undermines the constitutional arrangements
we have in the UK and in the United States,
where which are based on the principle
that no one is above the law,
but we are apparently as members of the public happy
because we're not complaining about it,
but on a general basis, we seem to be happy
that the government in the United States
and in the United Kingdom are quite happy
to set themselves up above the law when it suits them,
whether that's in a domestic scene or internationally.
Indeed, and the thing for us to be saying to the audience
is keep your eye on what's happening
and challenge this and particularly challenge it
with your MP at every opportunity.
And many people say MPs are not doing anything
while they get away with it
because not enough of their constituents
are actually challenging them face to face,
but we'll come onto that more in a UK column extra
after today's news.
And let's bring you in because if that's the reality
of America on the world stage and torture at work
together with the UK government,
we've got the remains of the Epstein saga
under the surface.
Absolutely, yeah.
Apparently, Mendelssohn is squeaky clean, nothing to see.
Well, I'm not sure that I'd say that.
What did you say the remains of the Epstein saga
and the remains of the war on terror?
That's a blarey of a throwback, isn't it?
And of course, another blarey of a throwback appeared on the BBC.
Unbelievably, over the weekend,
Mendelssohn was back.
Let's have a little listen to the opening section
of his interview with Lisa Kuntberg.
Lord Mendelssohn, thank you for speaking to us today.
You left your position in Washington
for reasons we'll come to in a few minutes,
but you have a unique perspective
from having been Britain's ambassador
and dealing with Donald Trump in the White House.
How should governments, including the UK,
react to this incredibly turbulent beginning to 2026,
his strikes on Venezuela and his threat
to grab a NATO ally in Greenland?
I know people will sometimes be taken aback
by his language and his approach to things.
And I had a ringside seat in a sense.
And so I saw how the truth social posts would come out
and how some people used language
and took positions that were to our mind in Europe,
quite undiplomatic.
But from his point of view,
you need to understand that he feels that we live
in a world that's full of conflicts,
of hard power, of growing rivalry,
and particularly between the United States and China,
and that sometimes nettles have to be grasped,
and that requires deterency.
If you want peace, you get peace through strength,
but also sometimes you'll have to use force as well.
And I think we've got to understand that
and not simply react the whole time to the language he uses.
So what do you think it will actually take
for Peter Mandelson to exit public life, Brian?
Because it is, the third time that he's been fired,
this time for something particularly egregious.
And within three months, he's back on the BBC?
Well, that's the nature of the BBC,
because the BBC is going to keep promoting people,
whatever they've done, whatever the implications are.
But I've found that fantastic
that he's brought on screen to talk about his experiences.
And allowed to speak for 18 minutes
before she brings up the Epstein issue.
So he gets to set out his stall
on a whole bunch of geopolitical issues,
before she finally gets round to the question,
and essentially allows him to say that he believed him,
and then he didn't,
Mandelson didn't really do anything wrong.
He didn't remember sending those emails.
He cringes every time that he sees them,
and actually found them mentally.
Those young women were failed by the system.
It was the system that failed them.
It wasn't Epstein and it wasn't Mandelson.
It was everybody. It was all of us.
Nicely spun.
Very beautifully spun.
Absolutely.
By the classic politician on the British side, I don't say.
Yeah, quite.
And they're ultimately to apologise for Trump, right?
Because he was, you know,
you saw that opening clip there.
He's basically saying,
oh, well, you know, Trump, Trump's not to everyone's taste,
but actually you have to understand
that he's doing these things for a reason.
We need peace through strength.
We need American heft.
He used that term a couple of times
in the interview to sort out problems around the world.
He went on to say that we mustn't ignore international law.
Of course, unless we decide to ignore international law.
He talks about the Arctic needing securing against Russia and China.
And it's obviously in reference to the noises being made around Greenland at the moment.
The fact that we'll be dependent on the US to do that.
UK finances are in a parlour state.
Interestingly, he called out the servicing of our national debt
as a major problem,
which I thought was remarkably honest for someone,
particularly coming from the Labour Party.
And then, of course,
positioning the inevitability of a conflict with Iran
under the auspices of freedom and democracy,
which is what I think the war and terror was all about as well, isn't it?
Supposedly.
Supposedly.
Yes. So, Mendelssohn,
maybe we'll be seeing more of him.
Who knows?
Thank you for that, Ben.
Well, Mike, let's bring you back on
because the subject clearly on the world stage
aside from Ukraine and Russia is Iran.
And everything seems to be being ramped up now
to create that internal division inside Iran
because ultimately what does the West,
what's the US and the West want,
which is regime change over to you?
Absolutely.
No, we'll be talking about Iran more on Wednesday.
But obviously over the weekend,
then the Israeli backed several unrest
as has escalated Iran with claims of deaths
as a result of an Iranian government crackdown.
And that, of course, is giving Donald Trump
the excuse he needs to prepare for military intervention.
So, let's just have a quick look
at what he said on Air Force One.
These are violent.
If you call them leaders,
I don't know if their leaders are just
they rule through violence.
But we're looking at it very seriously.
The military is looking at it.
And we're looking at some very strong options.
Iran called to negotiate.
Yes, the leaders of Iran called
they want to negotiate.
I think they're tired of being beat up by the United States.
Iran wants to negotiate, yes.
We may meet with them.
I mean, it's a meeting is being set up.
But we may have to act
because of what's happening before the meeting.
So, they may have to act before the meeting.
Well, of course, we just heard
Mondelson trying to justify that potential action.
And well, if we have a look at this particular item,
this is from the European Union here.
And, you know, as far as the West clearly is concerned,
the main concern should be for human rights defenders.
Because, of course, that's human rights defenders
that are at least organizing around the streets of Iran.
These are defined as people critical of government
in the case of the Iranian government.
And so, the EU pushed aside the European Union
expressed a serious concern over the widespread use
of arbitrary detention by Iranian authorities
to suppress critical voices within the country
in violation of Iran's obligations
on the international convention on civil and political rights.
And then on Friday, the UK published the guiding principles
on supporting human rights defenders.
And in their words, saying it reaffirms
the government's commitment to promoting
and protecting those who work
uphold fundamental rights worldwide.
It says human rights defenders play an essential role
in promoting and protecting democracy human rights
in the rule of law.
They say that with a straight face apparently
and without any irony at all,
they say that the UK has committed to supporting
the rights of HRDs to conduct their activities,
continue with their professions
and voice their opinions effectively, peacefully and safely.
In other words, we want to protect the right of people
to continue to create civil unrest in other countries
so that we can then use that as justification for intervention.
That's how it looks to me and be interested in your thoughts.
Well, Michael, I just sit here listening to your report
against the backdrop of the UK complicit in torture.
And of course, the torture,
which has come into the spotlight
to the press is all around Antanima Bay.
But if we go back in history, UK, UK governments
fully involved in torture,
including prior to the end of the Second World War
and supposedly we were fighting an Nazi regime
which had indulged in torture.
So the hypocrisy is absolutely outrageous
and really the government showing why the public
in this country should not be trusting the UK government
for its duplicity and its willingness
to get involved in unlawful military action overseas
and indeed in torture.
It's quite incredible.
Let's move on.
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Now we've got a germ warfare
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Mike, I don't know whether you'd like to say
anything about this one.
Obviously linux has been an interesting subject
over a great many years.
No, other than just to recommend everybody watches.
And of course,
it's going to be an interesting conversation.
I'll just run through the rest of these.
Brian, if you don't mind.
So tonight at nine o'clock then
is the US pushing the world to the brink.
The Karl is speaking
about that on Silicon steel podcast tonight.
Tomorrow,
Sandy is talking to Dr. Anthony McCarthy
about ethical sex.
This is a wide-ranging conversation.
It's extremely interesting conversation.
And so please join us for that tomorrow at 1pm.
And the Abbey Roberts part one
of the 1000 words podcast
that went out at 7pm last night
is now available on the UK column website.
So if you haven't seen that yet,
that's quite entertaining.
So do go and watch it.
Yes, brilliant.
A lot of fun.
And I think some more of the UK column team
are going to get caught up in the
in the artist then in due course this year.
So we'll see what transpires from that.
Now, Mike,
I'm going to give it back to you
because you've been having a look at
what's unfolding now with regard to digital ID.
This is clearly
one of the main drivers of the government
to get this sort of scheme in power.
And they're going in all sorts of directions.
What have you got?
Yes, well, first of all,
just a quick reminder.
This was the graphics the government was pushing out
in September last year.
And if you remember at that time,
Kirstaarmer had this to say I'm working with people
worried about the level of illegal immigration
in the country, secure border,
bloody blood.
He went on to say digital ID
is enormous opportunity for the UK.
Not sure who it's an enormous opportunity for.
He said it would make tougher to work illegally
in this country.
And so I'll make the borders more secure
and offer ordinary citizens kindness benefits.
So let's just have a look at this then.
This is the cybersecurity and resilience bill.
This was introduced to parliament
on the 12th of November last year.
And it's supposed to modernize the UK's
network and information systems regulations from 2018.
So they say that it aims to strengthen protections
for critical national infrastructure in response
to escalating cyber threats.
And they are expanding this
to cover data centers,
managed service providers,
large load controllers,
critical suppliers weren't previously regulated.
They're saying that it's enhanced and decent,
sorry, enhanced incident reporting,
requiring organizations to notify regulators
within 24 hours of becoming aware
of a cyber institute.
Incident, sorry,
with full reports due within 72 hours.
They're talking about strengthening regulators,
enforcement powers,
including the ability to impose
$100,000 per day for noncompliance.
And it says that they will grant the Secretary of State
parts to direct organizations
to take specific actions
when national security is threatened.
But here's the thing.
The bill excludes both central
and local government from its requirements.
So they are imposing regulations
on third-party service providers
to notify whenever there's been
some kind of breach in security.
But they're not required to notify
if there's been some kind of breach in security,
except that they published this document,
the cyber action plan,
in an attempt to sort of divert criticism here.
So this promises to hold government departments
to equivalent security standards
but without legal obligations.
So where does that leave us?
Well, if we have a look at this,
just to highlight the point,
this is the standard,
saying UK Digital ID card,
everything we know as whistleblowers
signed alarm over data security.
And of course, this was released
the last year.
But the point here is
that the whistleblowers were reporting
500,000 system vulnerabilities in one login
with thousands rated as critical
or highly severity.
At a whole host of other issues
with respect to the government's capability
to manage our own data
and protect our own data.
And of course, this leads absolutely
into the whole digital ID question
of whether government should be imposing this
on people, whether they're even qualified
to run such a system.
And if we just have a look at this one,
then this is Gov.gk1 login
loses certification for digital identity trust framework.
So this is also from last year
but just to remind everybody that that had happened.
And all the while,
the Starmer regime is working as a hand,
as hard as it can to remove
any kind of technical protections
that might be available to us.
So of course, this is being driven
by the recent, the news
in the last couple of days
of the Deep Fakes being created by GROC,
which is X's AI platform.
And of course, the fact that people were able
to reduce monographic images of celebrities
or children is getting a huge
amount of coverage.
But then what do we have here?
The computer generated
child sexual abuse material debate
was happening in the House of Lords last week.
And Lord Hansen of Flint has confirmed
that off-com is going to be using
powers to require service providers
of any kind of encrypted system,
encrypted chat and so on,
to scan material
before it gets uploaded,
either to the chat
or to other platforms.
And so of course,
if service providers
are required to scan material
before it gets uploaded,
then it completes,
makes a complete mockery
of any kind of encryption
that people may be using.
So, you know,
at the same time that government
is pursuing this digital idea agenda,
it's clearly on qualified
to do that,
it's producing legislation
which is going to regulate
third party companies,
but doesn't regulate itself,
or at least doesn't provide
any kind of legal backstop
for that,
for whatever reaches
of data that they may cause
in the coming years.
And in the meantime,
they continue this effort
to completely destroy
any people,
anybody's ability
to protect their own data online.
So again,
interesting your thoughts, Ben,
on this,
but this is quite
a, again, they say they
make these statements
without any sense of irony
and their position.
Quite yes.
I mean,
my overriding sense
is that they're utterly,
utterly shameless
and they will use any pretext
to manufacture the policy outcomes
that they're looking for,
you know,
including this child sexual exploitation
and preventing violence
against women and girls,
when you look at what we know
that they're doing,
even just in the last
20 minutes off
and they have this show
where I was talking about the,
the use of torture,
extraordinary torture
against,
against,
against,
Yes, again,
again, wait,
other human beings,
ultimately, right?
In the pursuit of what?
It's not entirely clear.
And yet they can turn around
and say to us,
ah, well, we're here to protect you
and to insert ourselves
into every part of your life
for your benefit.
And in order to do that,
they need to manufacture
a democratic consent and mandate
in order to achieve that,
they need to get their hands
around the hearts and minds
of the nation's young people,
which is what Keir Starmer has been
very much focused on
over the past few months
and got a little clip now
about the national youth strategy
and how that was developed.
I think there's a real sense
that young people have been left out
of the conversation.
Yeah, which is why this
advisory board is so important.
The last thing you want
is me and Lisa coming up
with a youth strategy.
There's less thing to young people
and having youth votes,
but then there's actually impacting
and making sure they can fill it
with a tangible change.
Mental health services child poverty
getting me interested to write.
And then there's what Lisa was just talking about,
which is what people need
on a local level.
So is it transport?
Is it a youth service?
It's the biggest answer
for a conversation that government
is happening in the Philippines.
Is that right?
That's fantastic.
That's really cool.
That is really cool.
That is really cool.
That is really cool.
That is really cool.
I said it was actually quite scary
to see the manipulation
of the young people
who brought around that table.
They have no idea
of the techniques being used
against them.
Absolutely no idea at all.
And also,
some extraordinary kind of expectations
at the beginning of the clip there,
saying, well, we've been left
out of the conversation thus far.
The idea that young people
should be intimately involved
in all areas of policy.
I mean,
this is a new thing.
Right.
And also,
Starmer, they're saying, well,
you don't want me and Lisa
coming up with the strategy,
even though he's the prime minister
of the country,
and that's kind of what
people are employed to do, right?
So anyway,
and obviously it's all presented
in this really extraordinary
and infantilising
and selfie-taking manner.
And it's all culminated
over the past about 12 months now
into this document
youth matters,
your national youth
strategy.
So this is obviously for you,
young people,
and you can see that they've got
you matter
as well as youth matters.
So this is just pandering
upon pandering
is what I'm seeing going on here.
A lot of manipulation,
a lot of thought
gone into this.
Well,
as it say,
so they have a vision
it's very simple.
Every young person
no matter where they're
from should have a safe place
to go,
someone who can't
have a safe place to go,
someone who cares for them
and a community
that they feel part of.
Right.
So you start
from a position of anxiety
and fear.
Yeah.
Any young person
is so destabilised.
They're fearful
and they need to protect themselves.
Their first plan in life
is to find somewhere safe.
They're not going to go out
in the world
and establish themselves
and challenge themselves.
They've become a child
or a puppy
that needs security
and a warm corner
of the room.
Right.
Absolutely.
And that's going to,
and it's the job of the government
to do that.
Yes.
Exactly.
This is all implicit here.
Right.
Government is going to get involved
in absolutely every area of your life.
And what's the first thing
in the opening section
that it says about
this new world of safety?
It's about feeling safe online.
Right.
So much has talked about
digital IDs
and censorship.
This is absolutely front
and centre
of the youth agenda.
This is what they're building a case for.
They're also talking here
about building connections
with people of your own age,
being part of a wider community building skills,
having opportunities,
and having support for your health,
both physical and mental health.
And all of this is going to necessitate
a total transformation
of the way that government works.
Right.
So we're going to move
from national to local.
So this is familiar.
Isn't it?
This is the devolution agenda,
regional assemblies,
metro meds,
and what have you?
We're going to move
from fragmented to collaborative,
which ultimately means
tighter integration
between the different component parts
of the state,
removal of the separation
of powers,
and then from excluded
to empowered,
which is about lowering
the voting age,
introducing these deliberative processes,
essentially to force
through a preconceived policy agenda
under the pretext
of supposedly democracy, right?
So this is how they've teed it up.
And then they've got these
ten recommendations,
based on,
I think it was 14,000 survey
respondents and various
interviews.
And obviously,
the kids are in control.
So you said it.
Now we're doing it.
Right.
And I'll just show you
a few examples here.
So this one,
remarkable, actually.
Everyone deserves
someone that they can trust.
One in five of you say
you don't have a trusted
adult outside of home.
We want a half a million
more of you to have access
to the public.
We want a half a million
more of you to have access
to an adult
that you trust outside of your home.
A government appointed
adult.
Absolutely.
Yes.
A named person that we came across
with the intended policy
north of the border
in Scotland.
Right.
And obviously these people
will be vetted
and ideologically aligned.
And not part of your family
crucially.
Right.
This is the government
going right to the heart
of the family unit.
These trusted adults
will potentially be based
in what they call
young futures hubs.
So they're going to be
50 inclusive centres
around the country,
which are going to be
led by adults coming
out of this program.
The government is going to
get involved in friendships
and relationships.
They want to create a safer
internet again
using digital ID systems
that we talked about.
Provide support
when you feel lonely.
Is that what the government's
for?
How do we get by?
How do we get by the UK
column?
No, I know.
When we don't lonely
in sad and hurt.
We seem somehow
to get three things.
Maybe we come from a different
mold.
Yeah.
Right.
Good work.
So highly curated
employment opportunities.
All of this is feeding
into the fourth
industrial revolution.
Sustainable development
gold agenda.
It's all coming from that
place.
I'll come on to that a bit
more in a moment.
They want to keep young
people safe.
More help outside of school.
They're going to keep people
safe by more RSHE
relationship sex and
health education lessons.
So apparently that's about
improving safety for young
people.
And then the big one votes
at 16 and co-creating
programs.
So these deliberative
processes where the government
will do just like
started in that video.
We're watching.
Come in.
Come sit around the table
and we'll talk through
a lot of things.
We'll pretend that we're
listening to you and that
you're shaping things.
But actually, we've got a
pre-packaged set of policy
outcomes that we know we're
going to do anyway.
And actually, this whole
thing is just window
dressing to make it look
like they're going to do
some kind of democratic
process that's going on.
And this is across the whole
country.
And obviously, we've seen
Starmer as well.
But who else is behind it?
So we can just see here.
So I've skipped ahead of
myself slightly.
The chap taking the selfie.
I showed that a minute ago.
That's Dan Laws.
We talked about him a lot
previously because he's the
current.
Co-C of my life, my say,
which is this UK youth
organisation, which is
very important.
Which is this UK youth
organisation, which is
partnered with amongst
many other organisations.
The Tony Blair Institute
for Global Change, the
National Citizens
Service, which is chaired
by David Cameron.
The Mayor of London's
office, so to the con
and everything that goes
with that, UK youth,
whose patron is Princess
Ann.
They also partnered with the
US Embassy in London.
It's based at Plexal, which
is a UK Government
Innovation Lab, which has
just about 18 months ago
announced a strategic
partnership with UK
Secret Intelligence Services,
aka AMI-6, and is also
directly linked to
R&CO for generations, which
is a Rothschild family
philanthropic fund based
in Paris.
And he's also partnered
with Tortoise Media.
We talk about all the time.
I haven't done for a few
months now, but they're also
partnered with the Rothschild
Foundation.
So these are the people who
are shaping the
National Youth
Strategy.
And the slogan there, my
saying, except when it comes
to torture and the government
is going to torture you
anyway.
Yes.
Just break any existing law
in order to do that.
Yeah.
It's actually already said
that's possible.
Yes.
It's quite incredible.
Ben, how obvious these
policies are becoming now.
They're coming into the
light.
We've lifted enough stones.
It's getting very easy to
see the traditional
democracy that people have
lived over the past.
Whatever it is, hundreds
of years in the UK.
This is going out the door very
quickly.
And then there's a very
insidious government
based control, which is
actually molded in with the
community.
Communitarianism or
participatory democracy.
Yes.
And another name for it.
That's certainly a term that
they use a lot, actually.
And without wanting to labor
the point too much.
If there are any younger
people watching this, or
actually anyone watching this,
they run out of the
community.
They're going to have a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
little bit of a
which was founded back in 2013 by this lovely bunch,
Craig Cameron, Ed Miller banned over there
on the right-hand side,
currently destroying the energy industry in the UK.
And of course Charles, as he was Prince Charles,
back in the day.
Surrounded by youngsters, very vulnerable youngsters.
Very vulnerable youngsters.
And the current, the politician of choice
for these people, interestingly,
nothing to do with Labour, nothing to do with the Tories,
is this guy, Jack Polansky.
So he was the keynote speaker at the most recent My Life
might say, next generation conference back in November,
or actually, no October, it was last year.
This is the guy that they're pushing, right?
So when you see young people getting excited
about Polansky and his policy positions,
understand that this is where he and those policies
are coming from.
OK, Ben, thank you very much for that.
This leads nicely into an article
that I saw a couple of days ago.
And I thought there was a lot more significance to it,
than maybe the guardian reader would pick up on.
So what was the headline here?
It was this government lacks emotional link
with voters and the cabinet.
Now, the important thing to pick up on here
is the fact that it's going for emotions,
not cognizant rational thought,
in order to make very clear assessments
as to what's happening in the world,
what's happening around you,
and what you are going to do to correct the situation
or drive good policies for the benefit of mankind.
No, this is about bringing emotion in.
What is the key part of that?
Well, of course, emotion and the capturing of emotions
is very, very important to the behavioral insight team,
because it can capture people's emotions.
You can control the way they think
and the way they behave.
Now, of course, all of this was sold,
that it was going to just come into the Labour Party,
who actually is talking about that.
I've had to clear Starmer on screen,
because of course, he's the boss, as it were.
But the deputy leader, Lucy Powell,
has also been making comments about this,
as has Keir Starmer's policy advisor, Morgan McSweeney.
But the main statement here is that the government needs
to gain back voters' trust with three ease,
emotion, empathy, and evidence.
So they've lost voters,
because voters are seeing into the criminality
of the main parties and the way they do politics
on the international stage.
And what is Starmer talking about
in this very gentle language he's talking about
using applied political psychology
in order to grab voters and lock them into his policy agenda?
The Labour Party went on to say,
MPs will be offered workshops by organizers in Labour HQ
on how to take credit for improvements in the local area,
or for policies directly helping constituencies,
constituents that have been implemented by the Labour government,
including frozen rail fares,
local community, high street funding,
and the warm home discount extension.
Now, think this through.
What he's actually saying is that even though somebody's been chosen
and elected as an MP,
that person is not mature enough
or doesn't have the mental acumen to make appropriate decisions
as to what their actions should be,
so that their own constituents engage with them.
This is almost like the Labour Party becoming the parents of the MPs
and holding their hands so that they know how to deal
with their own constituents is very, very devious this
and a lot more sinister than it may appear at first glance.
Now, an admission by the deputy leader of Labour Party Lucy Powell
was that it's a big switch organizationally and politically.
So there's truth here in this short sentence.
They go and say there's tools and training the party is providing,
but Lucy and Anna Turley,
the Labour Party chair,
leading some political work about what else is needed
and how MPs can support and share back their practice.
Now, we're going to say to our audience today,
be under no illusions.
The reality of this is that it is more targeted,
applied behavioural psychology
and what the Labour Party is absolutely doing here
is reframing not only its own MPs,
but also society,
because if you can get them to emotionally engage with the Labour Party,
well, it doesn't really need to worry about policy
because the emotions will take people anywhere,
including to war with Russia or perhaps Iran.
And having mentioned war,
Mike, let's bring you back in again
because of course, the horrors in Ukraine go on.
Yes, and on Friday then,
Russia used the Arashnik missiles for the second time,
as we can see on screen at the moment,
heading live this time.
And of course, this is in amongst broader activity
with respect to energy infrastructure
and drone manufacturing and so on.
This Russia said was a direct retaliation
for the drone attack on Putin's residents
in Novgorod in December.
So this is his action.
Now, of course, if we just remind ourselves
what this missile is,
we just put this on screen here,
and we'll see this Russia post article here
was asking Will Russia's new Arashnik missile
changed the course of the war.
Well, this was published at the time of the first use
of Arashnik.
It hasn't been used since,
so it hasn't really changed the course of the war,
but it's clearly something that Russia has
and is willing to use when it suits them.
Now, it is nuclear-capable medium-range ballistic missiles.
So although they have not,
I mean, as far as I am aware,
Brian, the original use,
and I'm not sure about this one,
but certainly the original use dummy warheads.
They were really showing the demonstrating the capability
rather than wanting to do massive damage.
What are your thoughts on that?
I think that was certainly true the first time it was used,
and the key point about this missile
is there is no defense in the West against it,
so the Russians have been careful to make sure
that particularly the US has been in before
when there's going to be a launch.
This is where the drive towards conflicts in Ukraine
gets so dangerous because both sides can take actions
that may appear innocent to the person taking the action,
but to the person monitoring,
that can be an absolute red flag that an attack has been launched.
So the use of these sort of weapons is inherently dangerous,
it's particularly dangerous for the West
because they have no real means to detect and track launches,
and there's certainly no defense against this missile system.
So the Russians didn't need to put full warheads on,
obviously, it would be a nuclear warhead
because they were making such a statement
by the existence of the missile itself.
Well, in response then, Zelensky made a statement.
Let's bring him on screen.
And what he said was the Russians are exploiting the cold snap,
trying to hit as many of our energy facilities as possible,
so much for the respect for America and all diplomacy.
The main Russian tactic is to try to completely shut cities down.
A Russian egg was used once again,
this time against the Lviv region.
Once again, it was pointedly close to borders
of the European Union.
In terms of using medium-range ballistic missiles,
this poses a same challenge for a soul,
Warsaw book arrest, Budapest,
and for many other capitals as well.
So he was busy trying to put forward the suggestion
that this was effectively an attack on a soul.
And this is something that, of course, Ukraine is very,
very keen to push forward.
And so they've done that by, in fact,
moving, apparently, some production of drones to Poland.
So here's Radosław Sokorski, the Polish foreign minister.
We've contributed to the purchase
of American weapons for Ukraine,
where now I'm losing kind on what seems
like the 48th transfer of equipment to Ukraine.
He went on to say, but Ukraine is reciprocating
by moving part of its drone and missile production to Poland.
And Brian just very briefly,
I mean, this is clearly yet another attempt
to put Russia in this situation
where they may want to target assets in the West,
which, of course, the West would be delighted,
because that would allow them to pursue Article V.
Indeed.
And when we spoke about this briefly earlier this morning,
I didn't pick up on your statement on Poland,
but the big problem for the West
is that Russia is now capable of targeting
any drone factory or other munitions factory
wherever it is in Ukraine.
And so you can see what's happening here,
what's the West trying to do?
Well, we're going to move into Poland
to get as close as possible to the conflict.
But we've got to stay within the NATO area
so that we still have the protection of that Article V.
But the reality is that nowhere is safe in Ukraine.
When we've seen recently indications
that German munitions companies
were going to be opening joint factories in Ukraine
with Ukrainians, this is complete nonsense,
because at any stage of the development
and build, Russia is capable of taking these out.
So in one way, it makes sense that the drone production
is brought into Poland.
But of course, what this really means
is that you are bringing the possibility
of actual conflict between NATO and Russia ever closer,
because those drones are ultimately
going to be used to attack Russia.
Yes, indeed.
But the narrative gets more ridiculous.
So here we have John Haley,
announcing that the U.K. has going to develop
new tactical ballistic missiles
that boost Ukraine's fire parts of deploy.
Sorry, to defend itself from Putin's war machine.
This is their language.
This is under project Nightfall, they say.
The U.K. has launched a competition
to rapidly develop ground-launched ballistic missiles
with a range of more than 500 kilometers.
And it's going to be able to carry,
where it needs to carry a payload of 200 kilograms.
So there you go, with maximum cost of 800,000 pounds.
Hermesile, that's that bit.
And then, of course, as we know,
the coalition of the willing took place last weekend.
We reported at that meeting,
there was announced that a multinational force
for Ukraine would be set up.
Well, the Starmer government has now announced
that it's allocated 200 million pounds of funding
to prepare the U.K. armed forces to deploy
as part of the multinational force for Ukraine.
And well, that's 200 million pounds
at a time when apparently senior military
are suggesting a 28 billion pound shortfall
in the budget.
So this is the Times and air chief Marcel Srichuk
Knight and the Chiefs of Defense staff
warning that the Ministry of Defense
is 28 billion pounds short over the next four years,
despite the fact that Starmer is claiming
that he's going to up the defense spending.
So again, they keep pushing the war buttons,
but they've really Ryan got nothing to support it with.
Nothing to support it with in the West, certainly not in U.K.,
but they're going to continue to use those Ukrainian troops
to fight and dial the front for their own objectives.
So to the last Ukrainian becomes ever more obvious
as the war now moves into 2026.
Well, lots more to be discussed on that.
But if we're worried about a shortfall in money
for U.K.'s armed forces,
then perhaps we should be looking to the NHS
because the BBC reporting here that the NHS
is wasting billions on patients
who don't need to be in hospital.
So maybe those two departments,
the running the NHS and the Ministry of Defense
should get together and see whether they can iron things out.
But this is just a very quick report from me.
I'm always, of course, suspicious and cynical
of what the BBC reports,
but sometimes there's a message comes through their reporting.
So if we get into this article here,
so it's saying that every day there are more than 13,000 people
whose treatment has been completed
and they're still in hospitals.
And so they're talking about the cost,
the average hospital bed takes 562 pounds a day
to start from maintained.
And the health service in England is losing 225 million a month
supporting patients who could be elsewhere.
And the line throughout this report is that many are older.
So if I come on to this one here, it says,
and because the population is getting older and frailer,
there are more complex cases ending up in hospital.
The system is having to run faster just to stand still.
Old people come up in the spotlight.
And then we get towards where I think the BBC is trying to lead
the minds of UK's population time to rethink end of life care.
So they're talking about price, one of the professionals
and reports about a third of people
who are admitted for medical reasons
are in their last years of life.
We admit them and end up over-treating them
with interventions, scans and pills argue price.
So very interesting that those elderly people
are such a nuisance and they come into the system.
We have to over-treat them.
We have to give them those pills,
but it's all costing us money
and really the unsaid words in my mind
are we could really do without the elderly people.
But I found this interesting because in the article
it also said this,
the problem when you start trying to treat everything
is that you prescribe more pills.
Those pills have side effects
and you can actually end up making a person's health worse.
So maybe a little bit of truth coming into the BBC report,
but of course, if we think it through,
if the NHS started to look at the damage
actually done to individuals by over-prescribing
of pharmaceutical products and the damaging side effects,
perhaps we could make millions of people more healthy,
save money and that money could be given for defence.
And it looks like a win-win situation to me unless you're old.
And I think the answer to that is they're coming for you
because you, perhaps, I should say,
we are becoming a little bit of a nuisance to the state.
So Ben, where does that take us?
Well, it takes us to the fact that the NHS is an absolute mess.
You know, it's one of the top killers.
I think it might even be top five killers
in the NHS is over-medication.
Well, that is certainly true in the states.
The biggest cause of death is pharmaceutical products.
Amazing.
It's an incredible natural death.
But if they're looking for some money
and they want to plug some gaps in the budget,
maybe they should go to Birmingham
because I came across this article in the BMJ over the weekend.
You can see here that the trust is the University Hospital
Birmingham Trust's 40 million pound overseas doctors
training scheme is axed after all it raises red flags.
So the article says a 40 million pound programme
to train doctors from overseas at Midlands NHS Trust
has been discontinued after an independent review
raised a host of red flags.
These included failures to ensure the doctors were paid fairly,
underclared hospitality linked to overseas recruitment trips.
That included the two-week jolly
that a bunch of people went on.
And evidence that most participants recruited mainly
from Pakistan did not return to their home countries
as intended.
Amazing.
It goes on to say one of the most serious issues
to emerge was the unusual arrangement
under which UHB, University Hospital Birmingham
paid a monthly stipend for ITFs
through a small UK company operating
from a residential addressing Birmingham.
In 2025, the last year the scheme operated,
the stipend paid for each ITF was nearly four grand a month,
equivalent to just under 50 grand a year.
And over the scheme's lifetime from 2017 to 2014,
40 million was paid through this scheme
to scholar and trainee services limited,
which managed the contributions and behalf
of colleges in Pakistan and one college in India.
However, the trust had no contract
or agreement with the company, did not receive invoices
and had no oversight of what money was passed on
to individual doctors.
And if you're involved in fraud and corruption,
that's usually how it works, Ben,
but surely it can't be the case here.
Not in the NHS.
Not in the NHS.
Oh goodness, no.
Anyway, so KPMG, these are the auditors
who actually looked at this and uncovered what is it,
what a match to fraud, I would say.
They also surveyed a group of 80 graduate doctors
who had completed this scheme over the past two years.
68% of them were now registered with the GMC
and working in the UK.
So they weren't supposed to stay in the country,
but they've been brought in through this scheme,
which has been siphoning off NHS money
and they've now decided to stay here.
And that's despite Pakistan being on the World Health
Organization's health recruitment red list,
meaning that they don't have enough doctors in Pakistan.
So we aren't really allowed to go to recruit there.
So there's about five things wrong with this whole situation,
the main one being that this money,
I can't believe that they got that money going out
and dealt with no paper trail whatsoever.
Ben, I'll just come in there and say over many years,
I have watched fraud and corruption
through city authorities and particularly
through regeneration and you've seen some of the documentation
with me, fraud on the scale of millions,
hundreds of millions of pounds.
Yeah, this is just routine now in UK.
This is how bad it's got.
OK, and this is one hospital.
One hospital, right?
So this is, it's extraordinary.
There was, as we've said,
there's been a review into this KPMG had a look at it.
This guy initiated that.
This is Kira Tel Chief Medical Officer, UHB.
And he said there was no suggestion
or findings of impropriety or fraud
by any trust employee, which seems completely implausible to me.
What do I know?
Well, maybe the serious fraud office
or the police have simply not got involved
and what he says is correct.
There is no suggestion because there's been no full investigation.
Mike, do you want the final few seconds comment on that?
It's all getting pretty obvious that this country is not breaking down.
It's not broken, Britain.
It is being broken and it's getting ever more easy
to see the policies and the people
who are ripping this country apart.
Yeah, I mean, I've got nothing to add.
It doesn't surprise me.
You know, this is our 20th anniversary.
When did we do the in Cornwall
and concerned presentation?
Brian, 2010 or something?
Nothing, nothing really has changed.
No, but we could say on a positive note
it's clear that many people have woken up
since then and are seeing this.
So if you're part of that team as the UK column audience
keeps spreading the word
because exposure is one of the key weapons
we've got against these people and their malicious policies.
I think we need to end there with a small,
pretty remarkable news today
and it's clear that 2026 is going to be special
for all sorts of reasons.
So hang on to your hats.
But huge thank you to you Ben
and to you, Mike, for joining me today
and a very big thank you to our audience
wherever you are in the world, UK and overseas
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