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Good afternoon, it's Monday, the 5th of January, 2026,

just after 1 o'clock, and welcome to UK Column News.

Happy New Year to everyone watching and listening.

I'm your host, Mike Robinson.

Joining me in the studio today, Ben Rubin.

Welcome to the program, Ben.

Thank you, Moick.

And by video link, we have Brian Garrish,

a leader in the program.

Brian's going to be looking at Starmer's moves

to bring Britain back into the EU.

And I'm going to be looking at Cambridge University's

International Security and Intelligence Program.

But we're going to begin today with Venezuela.

And of course, for those who watch UK Column and have

used the term Trump derangement syndrome

to describe how we've been covering

his behaviour over the last little while.

Maybe the events of the past few days

have encouraged some to reconsider at least.

But as everyone will bet, no by now,

the US invaded a sovereign country

and lifted its president and his wife

and brought them to New York for trial on drugs charges.

Apparently, drugs related charges.

And Bedurro was marched around the place

as you've just seen on screen

for the inevitable PR video video.

But let's just begin by listening

to the beginning of Trump's remarks

from the press conference a couple of days ago.

Late last night and early today,

at my direction,

the United States armed forces

conducted an extraordinary military operation

in the capital of Venezuela.

Overwhelming American military power,

air land and sea was used to launch

a spectacular assault.

And it was an assault like people have not seen

since World War II.

It was a force against a heavily fortified military fortress

in the heart of Caracas

to bring out Lord Dictator Nicholas Maduro to justice.

This was one of the most stunning,

effective and powerful displays

of American military might and competence.

In American history.

So what are your thoughts on that?

My main thought is that he sounds

like he was slurring his words a little bit.

He didn't sound well at all.

And absolutely, absolutely.

What was he on?

What's the question?

What's coming on to my lips?

Brian, what are your thoughts?

Because this suggestion that this was

the most impressive military operation since World War II.

Words to that effect.

It's quite quite a statement.

Quite a statement, Mike.

First of all, I have a new year to all our viewers and listeners.

Yes, quite incredible to see these events unfold

and deeply concerning.

I think it should be for most people

because his America really under control at the moment

is America really the land of freedom

and a proper running democracy

or if we've got a sort of dictatorship

now in operation under Trump.

And does it mean that he can simply walk

into any country in the world

if he so chooses

and he doesn't like the existing incumbent politicians

and their policies?

There's so many questions to ask here,

but really, really dangerous events in my opinion.

Well, during the press conference,

Trump was very clear that this was

effectively about stealing Venezuela's oil.

But to set everybody's mind at rest,

he said this.

I thought that would be so.

I settled eight and one quarter war.

You know what the one quarter was?

Thailand and Cambodia.

I did it again.

They broke out.

And I did it in about five hours.

And I settled it.

I'm giving myself one quarter.

So I'm up to now eight and one quarter.

In other words, I settled the war,

but then they broke out.

They had a pretty bad breakout

over the last four days.

I got him to go back to peace.

So I only give one quarter.

So he solved it in a quarter wars

while he's busy creating new ones

in Africa and South America.

And many people are justifying

the attack by setting the Monroe doctrine.

The Monroe doctrine for anybody

who doesn't know was created in 1823

and established a what they described

as a US sphere of influence in the Western hemisphere.

And this was an opposition to European interference

in the Americas.

There have been lots of references

in the Trump administration rhetoric

over the last number of weeks

to this idea of a US sphere of influence

and US Western or US hemisphere.

And so on.

If you listen to the various comments,

the justification suggests that Maduro

ties to Russia, China, and Iran represent

the kind of foreign influence

that this doctrine was meant to conjure.

But the problem, of course,

is that Russia, China, and Iran

are not European in the original sense.

The argument is also that the US

has a legitimate interest

in what they describe as hemispheric stability

and democratic governance.

It's quite incredible how

they can take this position

while behaving this way.

They say that humanitarian crisis

in Venezuela and refugee flows

affect the entire region

and that justifies what they were doing.

And also the fact that the United States

had an existing indictment

against Maduro for drug trafficking,

which they seem to be suggesting

is giving some kind of legal basis

for their rest.

All of that, of course,

is utter nonsense,

because the Maduro doctrine

was a unilateral US policy statement,

not international law.

It doesn't authorize military operations

to capture foreign leaders.

And of course, he completely ignored

the requirement for Congress

to authorize this type of action.

And that's a constitutional requirement.

So also modern international law,

whether that you consider that embodied

by the UN Charter,

but also other sovereign-day principles.

Supercedes the 19th century doctrine.

And we've got to say that this action violates

Venezuela's sovereignty.

That was, as I said,

supposed to be in response to European colonialism,

which makes Trump's actions

all the more ironic,

because over the weekend,

he was claiming that the US

would be running Venezuela

until such times as

there was some kind of new government there.

And so you've got to ask,

is that not United States colonialism?

The hypocrisy seems to be off the charts to me.

And of course, using force

to remove ahead of state,

even an unpopular one,

at least from America's point of view,

sets it an extremely dangerous precedent.

And it demonstrates yet more hypocrisy

because Trump and also all the supporting

Western leaders continue to criticize Russia

and China,

and despite the fact China

hasn't actually done anything yet.

This suggestion that they're going to invade,

where does that leave the suggestion?

That they're going to invade Taiwan?

Does that give China, in fact, free rein

to go ahead with that operation?

If that's in their mind,

I don't know.

So if you're following that logic,

then that would make sense.

Absolutely does.

Now, he was asked at the press conference

whether there would be boots on the ground

in Venezuela,

and Trump said,

well, we're not afraid of boots on the ground.

We're not afraid of it.

We don't mind saying it,

we're going to make sure that the country is run properly.

We're not doing this in vain.

And then in yesterday's interview with the Atlantic,

they are reporting him,

well, they say that Trump delivered a direct threat

to Venezuela's new leader, Rodriguez.

If she doesn't do what's right,

she's going to pay a very big price

is what they're quoting him as saying,

probably bigger than Maduro.

And he made clear that he would not stand

for any defiant rejection of the armed intervention

by the United States,

that resulted in Maduro's capture.

He was asked how regime change in Venezuela

is different from the regime change that he himself had opposed

in Iraq.

And he sort of rushed that off.

He said, I didn't do Iraq.

That was George W. Bush.

You'll have to ask the difference.

I've asked Bush that question

because we should never have gone into Iraq.

That started the Middle East disaster.

So, you know,

is he just a nail con now then, Trump?

Is that what's happened?

Well, this is something that quite a number of people

are saying is, is Maggie going to turn into a nail con,

you know, movement at this point?

Right.

It's quite incredible.

And then he was asked about taking over Greenland.

And he continued,

we do need Greenland.

Absolutely.

We needed for defense.

And he said that this was because it was surrounded

by Russian and Chinese ships.

So the question then is,

what's the international response being?

One of the UN Security Council has scheduled

an emergency session for today.

I have to believe that's taken place 10 a.m.

U.S. Eastern time.

So here's the report from that from the Security Council report.

And they're talking about the United States

is not in grab operation.

They're saying that,

well, basically this,

this report here from Security Council report

saying that this session has been brought about by Columbia

with the support of Russia and China.

The,

Kali, sorry, Kaya Kallas,

the Foreign Security Policy Administrator

for the European Commission was tweeting out on Saturday.

I've spoken with Secretary of State Marco Rubio

and our ambassador in Caracas,

the EU is closely monitoring the situation, Venezuela.

The EU has repeatedly stated

that Mr. Maduro lacks legitimacy

and has defended a peaceful transition,

defended a peaceful transition.

Under all circumstances, the principles of international law

and the UN charter must be respected.

We call for restraint.

The safety of EU citizens in the country is our top priority.

So she's basically, basically saying,

yeah, it's fine that they went ahead and did this.

But, but I'm going to defend international law.

So break international law.

But we're going to defend it.

So I'm trying to get paid to the UN.

Yeah.

Ursula von der Lenn,

then called for a peaceful transition.

And she said following very closely,

the situation in Venezuela,

Venezuela, we stand by the people of Venezuela

and support a peaceful and democratic transition

and a solution must respect

the international law under the UN charter.

So there you go.

That was pretty much that.

And then Friedrich Merck's call to situation complex.

He said the legal assessment of the US intervention

is complex and requires careful consideration.

International law remains the guiding framework.

So you start to see the theme,

the common narrative between all these people here.

And, uh, well, let's see,

what did Friedrich say here in the UK?

Well, here he is.

The American actions in Venezuela overnight

around orthodox and contrary to international law.

But they make China.

But if they make China and Russia think twice,

it may be a good thing.

So don't worry, international law is there.

And it is in breach of that.

But don't worry about that.

As long as it has the outcome of making China and Russia.

Think it's a good thing.

So let's finish this little segment

with the wonderful Kirstaumer and his comments.

Because this is what he had to say.

The UK has long supported the transition of Parv in Venezuela.

We regarded Maduro as an illegitimate president.

And we shed no tears about the end of his regime.

But here we go.

I reiterate my support for international law this morning.

The UK government will discuss the evolving situation

with the US counterparts in the days ahead.

As we seek a safe, safe and peaceful transition

to legitimate government.

So clearly, all the Western powers reacting in exactly the same way

to what the United States has done.

Yeah, we don't.

We didn't like Maduro.

We're glad to see the back of him.

But of course, we got to support international law.

We've got to wag our finger a little bit

and say how disapproving we are.

Precisely.

Yeah, right.

Well, the whole thing just rumbles on.

Quite incredible.

Isn't it just?

Isn't it just?

But it doesn't end there, Ben.

It doesn't.

It doesn't end there.

I mean, let's just let's just talk about Trump very quickly.

Well, because this is we're right into the we're getting into the business

end of the second term.

And the thing that always jumps out at me,

you started your segment by saying we're accused of TDS.

Right.

Well, I remember Trump 1.0.

So 2016 to 20 is a completely different proposition

to what we're looking at now.

Right.

So he was very famously putting himself forward as being anti foreign war.

We're not sending blood and treasure overseas to overthrow foreign dictators

or whatever it might be.

Even though he was actually running quite a lot of military operations

in the background, he didn't start any new conflicts.

Absolutely.

But now it's a sort of just though not even a year into his second term.

He was kicking off in Nigeria over Christmas.

We've got this operation special operation that's kicked off now.

When somebody else used the term special military operation.

Yes, he said.

Yeah.

That had a different.

Wow.

He's on the different side.

You see.

So it's different for them.

Right.

But this is it's some it's amazing.

And actually that his base is kind of going along with it.

And it strikes me that this the the the Biden term, that single term

is basically four years of ritual humiliation to enrage the mega base.

So that Trump can now be let off the leashing going stamp his mark across.

Well, wherever he's been in Nigeria, he's been in Venezuela.

They're talking about maybe taking Greenland at some point.

I mean, who knows?

Right.

I mean, this is this is intercontinental grand strategy of the the Kissinger

playbook when we'll come on to Henry Kissinger again in a moment.

I actually ended my last Monday news segment of 2025 with this story of

a Rothschild and co we can just get that up on screen.

Where we had the great in the good of NATO and civil service establishment

here in the UK convening at the Rothschild and co offices in the city of London

to talk about the opportunity for investors throughout the capital stack of

investing in weapons and death basically.

The military industrial complex.

That's how we ended last year.

It all kicked off with Lord Rothschild himself congratulating Donald J.

Trump on the liberation of Venezuela, Venezuela, Libre over on X.

But this couldn't really have been a celebration of making lots of money out of

kinetic warfare because well, I was going to say it seems like not a single

shop was fired.

He's described it as the biggest or best military operation since World War II.

But we've not actually seen anything here in this day and age where you see

almost a live streamed military activity as it happens.

Like in this instance, we've not seen anything until anyway.

But that is that that in itself is quite remarkable.

Well, that he was suggesting that there were quite a number of deaths on the

Venezuelan side.

Of course.

The little deaths on the United States side.

Right.

It's what he was saying more or less during his press conference.

Yeah.

But it was quick.

Whatever we can say about it, it happened pretty quickly.

So they're not going to be making loads of money in the military industrial complex

on this particular conflict.

So what was it about then for for Lord Rothschild?

Was it about oil?

Potentially.

They're sitting on a lot of oil.

David Miller doesn't think so.

So actually, David was over on X.

A pining about the fact that this is actually a message from what he calls

Pax Judeaica to the rest of the world.

We own Trump and so we own you.

It was a dry run for a new type of regime change mission.

Low cost, lower risk, lighter footprint, which Nanyahu was imposed on the US as a replacement

for his and Pax Judeaica's previous model, which used American troops and treasure to impose

ground invasions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and elsewhere.

So actually, this is a move by Pax Judeaica, the Jewish empire ultimately, which is what

Miller is referring to.

And that we've seen in operation across Latin America, the South American continent over

the past 12 months.

And of course, before that, but it's really coming to a head now.

We had this announcement back in November.

This is the Isaac Accords, which was signed by Havier Millet, the ubersionist president

of Argentina, often seen crying his eyes out at the wailing wall in Jerusalem.

He signed the Isaac Accords.

This is basically a version of the Abraham Accords for Latin America, whereas the Abraham Accords

focused on the Middle East and include Saudi Arabia, the UAE, as well as Israel.

And this is based on establishing free trade agreements between Israel and countries to sign up to it.

And those countries will agree to move their embassy to Jerusalem in the same way that the

US did during Trump's first term, actually.

These participants will sign the official declaration that Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist

groups, of course.

And they will adopt the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism in order to be part of this club essentially.

And this is from November.

Now we see this happening in Venezuela.

Seems to me that this is part of the deal, ultimately.

It's also a massive, massive, massive, just in another distraction from the Epstein file.

So these have been dripping out over the past few weeks and months.

Trump seems to figure pretty heavily in them as well as most of the rest of the US political establishment

in the past 30 or 40 years.

So what are we going to do? We'll start a war.

So we don't have to talk about this.

And a lot of this is being promoted and aided by the right-wing commentariat,

the MAGA Patriot Instagram types.

Not least this guy.

This is DC Draino, Rogan O'Handley, who popped up during COVID as a freedom protester.

But actually, this turned out to be a slavist Zionist regime propaganda.

Basically, he's got three million followers on Instagram.

And it really caught my attention how he was talking about this, this Venezuelan situation over the weekend.

Just a look at this, right? Look at the language and look at how it's being presented.

So they're saying that Trump has just captured Venezuela's communist president and sees 17.3 trillion in oil reserves.

This is going to deliver an economic boom, the biggest economic boom in American history,

win, win for Trump here.

It's what it looks like.

They've got 303 billion barrels of crude oil, which the US now controls.

And according to this analysis, if they just sold all of that,

then we'd wipe out a third of the national debt in just 12 hours.

What a deal. What a guy.

Trump's managed to execute this.

And it wasn't just about oil.

It was about protecting the US dollar.

You see over there on the right hand side, which is the world's reserve currency.

And that was down to an agreement made between Kissinger and Saudi Arabia.

In 1974, all oil sold globally must be priced in US dollars.

So they're validating Kissinger.

They're saying Kissinger was a good guy.

It was good for America.

And Trump is protecting this legacy ultimately.

And apparently, according to this guy, China was hours away from ending dollar supremacy.

And then we're going to do that in a number of ways.

And make the new world currency through these new payment systems,

relationships between the BRICS countries.

And Trump stopped it just in time.

Thank goodness me for Trump.

Isn't it incredible?

You mess with the dollar.

You disappear every single time.

It's amazing language this, isn't it?

And this is the mindset that is being pushed into the American Patriot right at the moment.

This is America first, essentially.

And that means America basically means America can do whatever it wants.

And the rest of the world can go swing.

That was American foreign policy.

Well, for decades.

And we thought that was coming to an end.

But it isn't and Trump is fully embracing it.

And actually, you can get that back on screen quickly.

We can see that one of the big bonuses apparently is that America is just secured fuel for the $10 trillion AIN EV boom.

So apparently this oil windfall is going to help with the AIN electric vehicles.

Again, it's all about the other thing we got to remember is that Venezuela has quite a bit of quite a lot of rare us as well.

It does it absolutely.

Well, that's a happy accident, isn't it?

Goodness. Fantastic.

And this is all presented in the language of the kind of start-up Silicon Valley,

the 10X, your investment type world view.

And they talk about this idea of smart money is paying attention to what Trump's done.

But now you can do this too.

So nations do it on a global scale, but you can do this at a local scale.

And this is all about building internet businesses and owning a deal flow across digital platforms.

You can make loads of money, 50 grand a month, mostly passive.

This is all from the same statement, by the way.

This is just one thing.

I think this is what I think is particularly interesting to put this stuff together.

And this is all being positioned towards these people,

blonde head, blue eyed, white American patriots who are supposedly Trump's people,

and that they should be buying into this whole agenda for us.

It's amazing.

This is all presented like this, so it's the strong man,

the strong rugged individual leader taking control.

Fafo, you know what Fafo means?

Tell me.

Fafo rounds and find out.

Really?

Yes.

Yeah, yeah.

So no games, Fafo.

And Tommy Robinson loves it, so this is obviously lit up the UK,

the supposed Patriot right in the UK,

literally calling for him to go to Downing Street,

and to kidnap Keir Starmer, Lawrence Fox doing more or less the same thing,

and saying, there we go, could you send over some rugged individualists

to free us from the warm embrace of collectivism?

And that's a direct reference to the inaugural address,

just a three or four days ago by Zara and Mandami in New York,

the new mayor of New York saying that we will replace

the fragility of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.

So the rugged individualism is Trump and his Fafo meme

and kidnapping communist leaders, as Mandami would put it,

he probably wouldn't call them a dictator, call them a communist leader.

And that is, he's basically, Trump has become a bogie man,

and it's deliberate, right?

They're doing this deliberately in order to provoke a reaction

and to drive parts of the population into collectivism

and ultimately into communism.

Because, actually, if you go far enough up to chain these things,

begin to coalesce, come back together,

not least through people like Zara and Mandami,

and this is one of the images that we shared when he was voted in,

just a few months ago, that's him with Alex Soros,

sort of George Soros, who is now the chair of Open Society's Foundation,

which is supposedly a liberal progressive NGO promoting better future

for the whole humanity, but she's also a strategic partner

of the world economic forum.

So, you can see that socialism and capitalism, collectivism,

collectivism and individualism, all kind of coalesced together

into this totalitarian system that's being built around us

and that situation in Venezuela is just one great example

of how it's all playing out.

Well, keep your posted on this as it goes.

Yes, it's going to have more on this on Wednesday,

and I have no doubt.

But Brian, let's welcome you back to the program.

And it was Starmer and the European Union,

because, of course, part and parcel of everything that's going on at the moment

is the threat to the nation itself.

Thank you, Mike. Well, of course, that's absolutely right.

I just felt that while we had these momentous world events happening,

it was a good thing to keep an eye on what was happening

with Kia Starmer.

And as you say, the European Union,

and fascinating for me that my interpretation of what

is up to at the moment,

were really a work that UK column did back in 2006,

when we were warning about certain things happening

with young people in UK.

But let's open up with the way the papers have been reporting.

So I've just chosen a couple here.

We've got the IEPA.

It's talking about a softer course for Brexit.

It's interesting that title,

because it's almost as though we haven't come out,

and we're doing a softer course to get out of the EU.

You came up with a wonderful UK column expression of Brexit

without the exit, and that's stayed out position.

So we've never fully left the EU.

But here's the daily express going much stronger

and saying full blown Brexit betrayal.

And if that was the two of the newspaper headlines,

then for me, it was also important to keep my,

what the BBC was saying.

So let's bring in this one.

So this headline is what's behind the PM's notable shift

on closer ties to Europe.

And in the article, really, the message is very strongly,

well, it's just a little bit of manipulation around the single market,

helping get trade flow.

It's about food in particular and farm exports.

They need some help.

Electricity comes into it,

but it causes a nation state.

We can't even power the country.

We need to draw on the European grid.

So it wasn't only electricity,

but it's also trading in power.

I thought that was interesting.

Let's have a look at another headline here,

because here we should release them not to pay attention,

because in this BBC report on a notable shift

to closer ties with Europe,

we see that in the text,

Storm is acknowledging that what he's doing

is a sovereign decision.

And I thought this was a very, very important line.

OK, he's saying we've got the best relationship with EU

for 10 years.

But I think in this article, he's having to recognize

that what he is doing is absolutely touching on

and abusing constitutional issues.

And he absolutely needs to be called out for it.

Let's go on to another headline and see what we get from that.

And this time we've got Rachel Reeves.

And in this BBC headline,

it's talking about having pushed for an ambitious youth migration deal

and saying that the UK agreed to work towards a youth experience visa.

Now many people would just think this is sort of fluff and nonsense.

It's just to do with youth and students.

And it's a few thousand students coming into the UK for Europe.

But is that really what's happening?

Let's have a look at the background to this.

And this is the meat of it, which has come out in another article here

by the independent, I think it is,

where it actually says that the UK is going to rejoin the EU

Erasmus student exchange scheme.

Now people have never heard of this before.

You need to really know about it and understand it.

Erasmus, if I remember correctly,

there's a lot of Dutch Renaissance thinker,

also a priest and a humanist.

But he has been taken up by the European Union as the model for young people.

So where does this leave us?

Well, let's actually have a look at the scheme itself.

And I've just got a headline here to bring up on screen.

So this is the Erasmus literature from the EU itself.

It's talking 2021 through to 2027.

And this is all about engaging youth.

So if we have a look at the actual costs involved here,

this is no small program because we're talking about 26.2 billion euros

in order to gauge you engage youth.

And why do they want to do this?

Well, the blue arrow there is highlighting that this is all about reframing

the minds of thousands and thousands of young people

in order to get them to believe that they're not German or British

or French or Dutch.

They're actually part of the European project.

And they're going to think in terms of no borders,

never mind Brexit, no borders, they're going to move between countries.

And they're going to be an internationalist in their whole spirit.

Here's a little video clip, which probably spells it out better than me.

This isn't about your Erasmus in the first instance.

It's about the EU's youth project.

But nevertheless, this is about...

As young people, we have the power to shape the European Union's future.

The EU Youth Dialogue is all about bridging the gap between young people and policy makers.

It offers us a unique opportunity to make political decision makers aware

of what truly matters to us.

Every EU Youth Dialogue takes place under a trio presidency

with three countries chairing the Council of the European Union

over an 18-month cycle.

These countries take it in turns to organise our EU Youth Conference

where we meet and debate on the chosen topics from the EU Youth Dialogue.

During each cycle, we, young Europeans, are first consulted,

making sure there is a wide range of perspectives.

Next, we discuss the results and make recommendations

for European Union and Member State policies.

So let's take the opportunity to voice our gaze

and help shape European societies.

Because the best feature for Europe is one in which we can engage, connect, and empower youth.

So that's it in a nutshell.

This is about grooming, reframing, training young people

to believe in the European mind, to believe in the European project.

And of course, once they've been trained in reframes,

they're put in positions of making policy.

So if they can come into politics, all the batter,

but also NGOs and other agencies,

and these are the people that help drive European policy

within their own country of origin,

or the host country in which they now reside.

So this is very, very dangerous stuff.

Let's just put up a little bit of a label over the top of this

because the key point here for people,

if we pop this one on screen, screen mic,

and this is about reframing youth.

So if we bring in the ad on there and to that slide,

this is all about reframing youth to believe in Europe and the European project

over and above their own nation state.

So this is a Trojan horse to bring in European policy into the UK.

Starmer absolutely knows what it's about.

I just want to remind viewers the way back in 2006,

the UK column was alone in warning about the highly pro-EU charity common purpose,

and what it was doing in order to adopt the same European reframing of children,

not of teenagers at university age,

but children from about the age of 12 onwards in UK schools.

So I think this is very dangerous,

and it says to me that Starmer is absolutely wanting to continue the EU.

He's no intention of making any former Brexit hard or soft.

As we have been suggesting for a long time,

this of course is a unipotent policy, not just Starmer,

or he's just the latest step along the way.

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Okay, now let's move back to the UK.

And the 2026 international security and intelligence program.

So let's bring it on screen.

This is Cambridge University.

It's going to be hosted once again at a manual college at Cambridge University.

This is a residential program.

It's going to run from the Sunday,

the 5th of July,

Saturday, the 1st of August.

So basically a whole month is going to be chaired by Richard Deerlove,

the former chief of MI6.

And well, the Cambridge Security Initiative was launched the international security

and intelligence program in 2016.

And they say that the aim of what they describe as a unique program

is to provide an opportunity for participants to engage

with leading academics and practitioners from the intelligence and security communities

in the historic setting of one of the world's four most universities.

I believe it's also probably one of the most common sources

of traitorous behavior in the country as well.

But maybe that might be a misunderstanding of history.

Well, they say that Cambridge produces the heretics in Oxford burns them.

Really? Yes.

Anyway, the teaching program,

because this is a teaching program,

closely follows that of Cambridge University with lectures, seminars,

and super visions, which, well,

we can decide what those are later.

All the instruction is conducted under Chatham House rules.

And so what they say is that that means that when a meeting is held under Chatham House rules,

participants are free to use the information received,

but neither the identity nor the affiliation of the speaker,

nor that of any other participant may be revealed.

So applicants are invited from undergraduates,

have completed at least a year of university,

and sometimes more.

Also graduates and early career professionals with an intellectual or professional interest in state craft,

and the interlocking themes of intelligence security,

strategy, defense, and foreign policy.

And so Ben, my question is,

is this about education,

or is this, in fact, a recruitment program?

Brian, I don't know if you've got any thoughts on that.

Is this about recruitment?

I've asked one or two other people about this,

and their view is that it could very well be more about recruitment than anything else.

But I'd be interested in your thoughts.

Well, my immediate response, Mike,

is it's so difficult to tell now what's going on.

Are we dealing with the state?

Are we dealing with the government?

Are we dealing with agents at the state?

It's becoming increasingly difficult to tell whether people are running the country in line with the constitution,

or they are a cabal that's running to their, you know, to their own agenda.

While you're reporting on Venezuela, just to jump back to that subject,

I thought to myself, well, here we are with America,

totally out of control, ignoring the rules-based international order,

just to throw the rock in the pond.

But of course, we've got a UK government that's voted in a whole load of legislation

to allow it to break the law.

We shouldn't be surprised to allow it to break the law itself,

for its agents to break the law.

We shouldn't be surprised now whether we see increasingly murky groups set up.

We've no idea what they're really there all doing,

and we need to ask that question.

Certainly, we need to lift the stones to find out.

Indeed. Well, the program directors, here's the first one, Professor Michael Goodman.

And he formerly head of war studies, and now Professor of Intelligence and International Affairs at King's College London.

He's the official historian of the British Joint Intelligence Committee,

and a visiting professor at the Norwegian Defense Intelligence School.

He's a British Army reservist.

They're not clear as to who he's reservist for.

Is it 77 brigade, perhaps?

And it's spent many years secounded to the Cabinet Office of the Ministry of Defense,

and then Professor David Glow, who's a visiting professor at the Department of War Studies,

King's College London.

Recently, British Academy Global Professor at the Department of War Studies,

and formerly Associate Professor of History at US Military Academy in West Point.

And well, the little synopsis says that he brings 25 years of combined active and reserve service working

in the US intelligence community, including analytical and operational roles in the FBI,

CIA, DIA, and Office of Naval Intelligence.

So, as I say, the teaching format closely follows that of Cambridge University, and so on.

But look, the connections here into the whole rushigate thing in the United States.

We look at rushigate to start off with Christopher Stale.

He's involved with this organization, Steph and Halber.

Absolutely. Richard Deerlove is chairing this event.

Christopher Andrew, the official historian at MI5.

Well, he's not directly connected to this particular event,

but his work, his academic work, his historical work on MI5.

It's absolutely part and parcel of the curriculum for this.

So, that's the Cambridge form that we talked about with respect to rushigate.

But then also we've got the same types of people involved with the Skripal case as well,

which is all about building narratives against Russia.

In fact, rushigate, the attack on Trump was also really about a narrative against Russian interfering, and so on.

And then if we just focus on Christopher Stale for a second, of course, he produced a Trump dossier,

also produced or contributed to the Russian report for the British government,

and also the Huawei dossier for the British government.

So, you know, these are the types of people that we have operational here, and so on.

But just to move on to another Cambridge person, of course,

the lovely Blaz Metrueli, who was giving her inaugural speeches and you head of MI6 just before Christmas.

Was she, of course, was uttered as the granddaughter of the infamous,

shall we say, Ukrainian Nazi collaborator Constantine Dobryvolsky, known to the up there as the butcher.

And that was from 1941 to 1943, and he was accused of running up Ukrainian Jews for slaughter,

and bragging about the extermination of the Jews.

Now, Blaz Metrueli's response was to deny any knowledge or contact with him,

and then the foreign office and MI6 issued statements that the BBC was happy to promote,

saying that Blaz's ancestry is characterized by conflict and division,

and as is the case for many, with Eastern European heritage, only partially understood.

It's precisely this complex heritage, which is contributed to our commitment to prevent conflict

and protect the British public from modern threats, from today's hostile states,

as the next chief of MI6.

Well, it turns out that Metrueli's father, Constantine Dobryvolsky, Jr,

was raised by another Nazi collaborator, that was his stepfather, David Metrueli,

who worked at an up there run special preliminary camp at Auschwitz.

The camp was in the time of Auschwitz, but it wasn't the same as the Constration camp,

that's known by that name.

Now, he was apparently teaching radio technology to radio operatives for the up there,

and it's also noted that he's obviously Georgian, as we've mentioned from the name.

He was also providing instruction to members of the Georgian Legion,

which was also collaborating with the Nazis.

Brian, MI6 must have understood enough about her family history before they recruited her,

and now she's following her career in MI6, MI6 is now under her command.

And so I wonder, obviously, having a grandfather who was known as the butcher,

and a Nazi collaborator, and also, therefore, her father being brought up by another Nazi collaborator,

that doesn't make her a Nazi necessarily, but what were MI6 thinking in the recruitment process?

Do you think, I mean, why would they choose someone with this kind of family background?

Because as I understand it, intelligence operatives are fairly well vetted.

Well, for a good question, my immediate response is that if you're involved in murky dirty business,

you want to recruit somebody who comes from a murky dirty background.

So in some ways, I could look at her and say, yeah, OK, this is exactly the lady they want,

because the dirty work that's going on in Ukraine in particular is clearly going to continue

throughout this year and many forecast into next year,

UK's heavily involved in war, although it's denying that it is.

So whether we've got troops on the ground or we've got special intelligence services active in the background,

we want somebody who's capable of operating in that murky way.

So my initial impression is this woman would have been specially chosen

because of her connections and murky pass.

She's acceptable to both sides of the presumably she's acceptable to both sides of the Ukrainian political divide

those that are on the extreme right wing in Ukraine, which of course nobody,

including the BBC wants to talk about anymore,

or whether she's connected into the cleaner, more modern Ukrainian political circles.

But they absolutely would have known what this woman's background is.

My opinion is she's been chosen because of that murky background.

Thanks Brian. Now let's let's come on back onto other UK topics and something that we've been.

Well, it's been a topic of conversation for many many years,

and that is the question of the House of Commons and the the Palace Westminster

and whether it's actually capable of hosting the House of Commons and the House of Lords anymore.

I mean, obviously we've just seen a big bend refurbished and it's looking spectacularly good at the moment.

It has to be said, but that's the outside. What about the inside?

Well, this is a good question. Perhaps we're going into another dirty murky subjects.

But I wanted to flank this up because again, the UK column was talking about the whole concept

of the major refurbishment to the parliament in UK.

This was being discussed 50, at least 15 years ago.

And we said that at a time when we got the sort of iron fist of the EU around our throats as a nation stayed,

it was very worrying if we were going to see parliament broken up for refurbishment recited possibly in another city.

A time of great turbulence when there was another political power clearly attempting to take full control of the country.

We're in a time of turbulence again. And what is now cropped up is that we are to have a major refurbishment of parliament.

So I'm very wary as to what's going on here in a political sense.

But also many years ago, I had experience of working in a company undertaking major condition surveys for very, very big properties including some of the EU's own buildings in Brussels.

And so I've got a little bit of professional knowledge about how this system works.

And when I look at what we're being told in the media about what's to happen with Westminster, some of it does not stack up.

So let's have a look at how this is being reported.

No apologies for picking the BBC because the BBC is the biggest propaganda outlet in the country.

So many people being affected, but the picture I'll just describe first of all, because I suspect some people have trouble seeing what it is.

It's the BBC's picture of part of the problem with Westminster.

So you're down in the bounds of the building. And what you're looking at isn't a rat's nest, which you might expect to find in parliament.

Know what you're looking at is a massive mess of data cables and my immediate responses.

If that is indeed the condition of those cables, somebody needs to be on a health and safety charge because it's outrageous.

No other company would be allowed that.

But underneath we've got some of the the meat of what this report's talking about.

So it's talking about these works taking 19 to 28 years to complete with parliament vacated or partly vacated or partly relocated for some 12 to 20 years.

And I've added a question mark after that because this time scale is not set.

Now there's some more pictures here from the BBC.

They tried to make out as though this is an absolute disaster.

But many people in the professional world of building of buildings and their condition will say, well, this looks pretty neat and tidy compared to many.

But I can accept that the systems are old. So we've got all sorts of heating, pipe work ventilation, which is down under the building.

If we just bring you over the overlay, this is what the BBC says, a hot and fussy corridor in the basement, the House of Parliament, which carries hundreds of tangled gas pipes, water mains and electrical wires, some of which are redundant, dangerous and need replacing.

Well, this would be what you would see in most older commercial properties, particularly up in London.

But for some reason, now we're on to the subject to Westminster, my goodness, this is a nightmare that nobody's capable of sorting out.

So if we go to the next one, we've got another picture.

This is an 1945's pipe that was leaking at the flange at one point. So there's a little bit of a rust stain on it.

But what does the BBC say?

Well, it says that this pipe has been decommissioned and needs to be removed.

However, getting it out requires removing the otherwise entwined around it.

They can't, they can't be isolated, meaning the whole system would have to be shut off.

This is completely normal. No commercial operation would be batting an eyelid at this. It's what happens in big and small commercial properties right the way across UK and indeed worldwide.

But suddenly for Parliament, it's a huge problem. We've had to create a specialist company. Let's have a look at it.

It's the restoration and renewal company that's already spending about 79 million a year in order to think about and plan what this refurbishment is going to be and how it's going to work.

And what is the cost? Well, this is where my eyes really started to to bulge because apparently to refurbish this building is going to cost between seven and 13 billion pounds.

And this is conservative estimate. And I'm thinking to myself, my goodness, what commercial operation would be looking at the possibility of non inability to use a building over 20 years.

And possibly spending 13 billion pounds to refurbishment refurbisher. It sounds incredible.

So if we're going into a little bit more of the detail, this is from that company's own reports.

This is just a very simplistic list of what's going to take place.

So the top one, which have highlighted is it says, save the building and renew failing building services.

And the top subject is building services such as heating ventilation and cooling.

And apparently that is going to swallow out 51% of those billions, which we've already identified.

This to me seems completely unbelievable. But you can see some of the other problems underneath because they're talking about the need to to conserve the building fabric.

That makes sense. But that's a mere 16% to the cost.

We've also got asbestos removal at 8%, asbestos still a big problem in many older buildings.

But the procedures for getting it out are very well established and 8% of the overall cost sounds to me probably about right for a building of that age.

If we go on and have a look at the next table here, we suddenly start see something different.

Because now we're looking at a working, creating a working home for members and parliament itself.

And that is only going to take 3% to the budget.

So we've got 51% to those billions simply on the engineering systems and a mere 3% on achieving the reason I would have thought you're trying to refurbish the building.

And if we go into the last one, there's a lot more to this, but to give people an overview, what are we looking at in this last one?

Well, it's a building that's got to be accessible. And what do they mean?

It means that anybody who can't walk there in a wheelchair, they can have full access to the building.

And that alone is going to take 6% of those billion pounds in budget.

So some quite extraordinary things taking place here.

But if we get to the meat of my concerns in the next slide here, is what's actually happening?

Because is this a simple restoration and renewal?

Or is it a project which is to be dragged out over so many years, you have the opportunity to completely disrupt and reset the UK's constitutional government?

And if you're wondering what the 48 years is that's appeared on screen, yes, in the report by that renewal company, at one stage, they casually suggest in one of the sentences that maybe this whole project could disrupt parliament for 48 years.

I'm going to say as part of my prediction for 2026, what we're looking at is now a deliberate attempt to completely undermine and destroy stability within our political process.

And the idea that we're going to spend 13 billion on renewing parliament is a complete, it's not only an nonsense, but it's so outrageous, we've got to ask questions as to what's happening here.

We've got storm reeducating youth to believe in the European Union.

At the same time, we've got a perfect opportunity to destroy the workings of parliament as we know it.

So perhaps I can throw that back to you, Mike, and say there's something at work here, and I think we really need to pay attention to it.

But where you've got nothing to worry about, Ben was sentenced to assembly, so we're going to save the day, I don't know what I was just going to say.

Sedicons just built a new city hall up in East London, maybe they could move in there instead, if that be okay, wouldn't it?

Well, the question then, to finish then, is are they intending to sell Britain?

I mean, they've been flogging it for years, haven't they?

Yes, I mean, basically, I've been doing the route, I mean, it's quite nicely linked in from what Brian's just been talking about, right?

Like, I've been doing a bit of a, for the first time in a few years, I've been going around the country on various different trips, went up to York for the UK Column Conference, was in Stroud with Sandwich, full Christmas,

I've been exploring Devon over the past few weeks, has been fantastic, and I was up in my mum's over Christmas, just outside of Nottingham, small town called Bingham.

And the thing that you can't help but notice is, well, the first thing that half the country is now covered in solar panels, which is awful, and it makes me sick to my stomach when I see that.

And the other one that's really getting me, and it was particularly related to seeing my mum over Christmas, is that Bingham is this beautiful, not quite a village, it's a little bit bigger than that, right?

But it's been there for hundreds of years, it's got a very particular feel to it, a very particular architectural style, these lovely red brick buildings, and it was in the middle of fields and farmland.

You know, there's huge sways of the country that are like that, like these little small villages, small hamlets, and surrounded by the countryside, by nature, and essentially that is what the country is.

And Bingham, and this is a good example that can be seen across the whole of the country, is now surrounded by these things, we can get this up on screen, these building sites, and these new housing states that are going in.

And this is destroying the soul of the nation, like the fabric of the country, like what it was, how it feels, how it looks, and this is just the perfect example for me of what's going wrong in the country, like where you can essentially look at a field, a meadow, you know, the surrounding of something that is ancient and beautiful that's been there for centuries,

and say, do you know what that really needs, and needs some, you know, toy houses made by Taylor Wimpy, or some other footsie listed housebuilder to come in and bulldoze over it, overload the local infrastructure, basically fog people off with, you know, like, she's not a particular comment about Taylor Wimpy,

it's just a comment about modern construction, so we say, these things are not built to last.

So there's no sympathy with the local area, it's not an asset that you're going to hand down through generations over potentially centuries, it's something that you're going to have to tear down and rebuild in 30 years or 40 years potentially, maybe even before you get to the end of the mortgage, it's going to run out of, it's going to run out of usefulness.

And this is the front line of the struggle that we're in at the moment, you know, if you think about those building sites, the solar panels going up, you know, we talk a lot about what's happening in terms of global agenda and global policy here on the UK column, but it manifests at a local level.

And so when you see these things popping up, understand that that's being driven from these great macro economic and political forces in places like the city of London or Davor or wherever it might be, yeah, so that that's the country transforming as a consequence of these policies, the other thing that it really flagged up to me is the enormous importance of independent local media, because if the newspapers in those towns were doing their job properly.

And none of this would be happening. Yeah, indeed. Well, look, Brian, we're out of time, but let's just finish with something slightly lighter harder, shall we say, because of course, we're all going to die because of the snow.

Well, this is true, snows the problem and we're all to become snowflakes to not be able to deal with those snowflakes as they come down, but I've got to say, thank you to Mrs Garrish for this one, because I found a laughing one morning while she was looking at some reports online.

What's the whole thing about? Well, of course, is the government ramping up fear of a snow hitting the UK, I remember that winter of 1963 is a very small child when we really did have a problem with snow, but we still managed to to survive as a nation, the trains were able to start running again, roads were cleared and people just dealt with it. But now, of course, the government says that snow, as we can see in this one.

This one is a risk to life. And this is the thing, it's all about fear. Now, who's driving the fear? Well, in these articles, they start talking about the

extreme events and health protection, health UK health security agency. And there's a particular individual who's who's actually porch a geese, Augustino to Susa.

And he's an interesting man, he's got a very European career. But he said, as the cold weather sets in its vital to check in on friends, family and neighbors that are the most vulnerable.

And if we press the magic button again, he added this, the forecasted temperatures can have a serious impact on the health of some people, leading to increased risk of heart attack, strokes and chest infections, particularly for individuals over the age of 65.

And those with pre-existing health conditions. So I think we should thank Agostino for thinking for us and keeping us safe from those snowflakes, because before he got involved, no adult in the company in the country was capable of doing this.

But the thing that really brought a smile to our faces as a family was the fact that these agencies were having yellow snow warnings.

And this brought into my head a Frank Zapper track from some years ago, because he was also warning about yellow snow, because that's where the doggies might go.

So yellow snow warnings in UK. Does that mean watch out where you're treading, or does it mean something else? I don't know. But for goodness sake, snow is snow, we can survive.

Let's not let these people make us anxious and fearful of something, which is quite normal for any country, certainly in in Europe or America, wherever we go, whether it's cold weather.

Absolutely. Well, thank you very much for that. Yes, we all recommend Frank's office.

South house from time to time. It's it's good stuff. Okay, well, look, we got to leave it there for now. Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Ben. Thanks to everybody that's watching.

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