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Once for money, twice for love, maybe thrice for lust. Some women become brides more than bridesmaids. Part 1 of 2
Returning from Bermuda to New York in November 1933, Madeleine Astor prepares for her third wedding to Enzo Fiermonte and more press scandals. She takes back a trip down memory lane of the seduction and scandal with her first marriage to John Jacob Astor IV leading to their fateful trip on the Titanic.
Other people and subjects include:
Madaleine Talmage Force Astor Dick Fiermonte, Colonel John Jacob Astor IV aka “Jack,” John Jacob Astor VI aka “Jakey,” Enzo Fiermonte, William Vincent Astor, Daisy Van Alen, James Van Alen, Katherine Force Spencer, Mrs. Katherine Talmage Force, William Force, William Dick, William Dick Jr., John Henry Dick, Caroline Astor, Alva Vanderbilt Belmont, Carrie Astor Wilson, Grace Wilson Vanderbilt, Ava Lowle Willing Astor, Charlotte Astor Drayton, Gertrude Vanderbilt Payne Whitney, “Birdie” Virginia Graham Fair Vanderbilt, Margaret Brown – Unsinkable Molly Brown – Maggie Brown – Mrs. James J. Brown – Mrs. J.J. Brown, Catherine Ellen Brown aka “Helen,” William Waldorf Astor, Lawrence Gillespie, Irene Sherman Gillespie, Mrs. Ogden Mills, Mrs. Helen Roosevelt Robinson, Dr. Carnes Weeks, Edith Searle, Josephine Wright, Reverend George Chalmers Richmond, Father David Phelan, Western Watchmen, Reverend Dr. J.J. Muir, St. Valentine, Valentine’s Day, Valentine themed party favors, ball, annual Astor dinner dance, cotillon, fashion, jewelry, diamond solitaire engagement ring, “Runaway” drama, Billie Burke – Folies Bergere – Glinda the Good Witch, Reverend Joseph Lambert, Elmwood Congregational Temple, sermons, The Fee Refused, Sodom, unholy alliance, Henry Beattie, Jr., murder, electric chair, divorce, cuckoo, vampire, age mismatched marriage, divorced, adultery, remarriage, scandal, snub, “Dream Girl” play, Women’s League for Animals, talisman, Ushabti statue, Social Register, press scandal, Butte Miner newspaper, St. Valentine, charmed circle – the 400, Monarch of Bermuda, Lifeboat 4, Lifeboat 6, Titanic, Carpathia, Nourmahal, Noma, Doctors Hospital, Bar Harbor Swimming Pool Club, Metropolitan Opera, Plaza Hotel, St. Regis, Beechwood cottage, Astor Mansion 65th Street and Fifth Avenue, first Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, Manhattan, Rhinebeck, Newport, Rhode Island, Bar Harbor, Maine, Reno, Nevada, Bermuda, Egypt, Denver Museum, rabbit holes, names, married and divorced names for women, Titanic passenger lists, 1925 Breaker Hotel fire, hypochondria, anxiety, heroine, widowhood, motherhood, The Second Mrs. Astor novel, Shana Abe, folklore vampires, literary vampires, Sheridan LeFanu, Carmilla, Bram Stoker, Dracula, cinematic vampires, The Vamp archetype, seductress, Gene Fowler, Timber Line book 1933, James Cameron, Titanic (1997), Titan submersible, Oceangate, Stockton Rush, Wendy Weil, FX Hulu Love Story tv series, Caroline Bessette Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, Jr. – JFK Jr – John John, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis – Jackie, Daryl Hannah, Princess Diana, antagonized and villainized in the press, press friendly, recycle and resurrect past tragedy via social media, more favorable press decades after death, public disapproval…
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Extra Notes / Call to Action:
Psychology Today
Gossip, Power, and the Stories We Tell
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/wild-connections/202603/gossip-power-and-the-stories-we-tell
Why We Gossip
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/long-fuse-big-bang/202603/why-we-gossip
Ti’s Hot Mess History, YouTube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/@TisHotMessHistory
Riches to Ruin – Titanic Widow of John Jacob Astor & Her Troubled 3rd Marriage by Ti’s Hot Mess History July 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODY-qiEn3ak
The Scandalous True Story of Titanic’s Wealthiest Passenger – JJ Astor & His Teen Wife by Ti’s Hot Mess History May 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF89xKNWbow&t=25s
The Rich Boy Nobody Wanted: Titanic Baby John Jacob Astor VI by Ti’s Hot Mess History December 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rlV8oT6lxs
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Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
Section 1 Music: Red Sails In The Sunset by Casani Club Orchestra, Album The Great Dance Bands Play Hits of the 30s
Section 2 Music: A Reckless Night On Board An Ocean by Sydney Lipton, Album The Great Dance Bands Play Hits of the 30s
Section 3 Music: A Foggy Day by Carroll Gibbons, Album Sophistication 3
End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
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