Unlocking Peak Potential: Wisdom from Annika Sorenstam

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged.

And today I am with my goat of all goats.

A lot of you don't know this about me, but I picked up golf several years ago.

I'm not great by any stretch imagination.

Most people say I'm not good by any stretch imagination.

But today's guess is the reason that I picked up a golf club to begin, but watching her

dominate, watching her competitive spirit, watching the consistence, taught me a lot about

what I should be doing both on the golf course and in life.

So I'm honored to present to you the legendary, the iconic, the brilliance, the unparalleled.

This is Anika Sorensen.

Anika, how you doing today, dear?

Well, thank you so much for that introduction, great to be with you.

I am the art one.

This is truly a bucket list.

You know, when he talked to my kids and they saw that I started playing golf many, many

years ago.

And again, I'm not good by any stretch imagination.

But I got into golf because of you, the domination that you had in the fearlessness

that you had was so unparalleled.

So again, I'm honored to be here with you.

Well, thank you.

I'm glad you picked up the sport.

As you know, it's a fun sport you can do with everybody all your life.

So good for you.

And you can't blame anyone else either.

You can only blame yourself, right?

That's why I love golf.

That's true, but sometimes you wish you could, but in the end it all comes back to you.

Absolutely.

Anika, the first question I love asking all of my guests is what is your cause, right?

Like if I were to ask you what's your why, you're going to tell me, you know, my kids,

my family, my community, my foundation.

But when I say why, why is that important?

That sentence usually begins with, well, because, and I care about your because, and your

because changes over time.

So far to say today, Anika Swampson, what is your cause?

Why do you do the things that you do?

That's kind of a fun way to ask that question because I think that hits the spot more directly

because I think, I mean, it makes me feel good.

I want to make a difference.

I want to inspire the next generation.

And because I feel, I feel very lucky, to be honest.

I feel very lucky in the sense that, you know, I start playing golf as a hobby.

Of course it was fun.

And then I took it to a different level.

It became kind of my, my work or you want to put it there was a kind of great work.

And then, you know, be able to step away and continue to follow that passion.

And so I think that is my because.

I love that.

I love everything about it because that truly defines who you are.

And I think who you always have been.

You know, one of the things that I learned from you and again, this isn't golf.

This is just in life is the dedication to your craft always being prepared.

You know, I've heard, I've heard you say this.

I've heard Michael Jordan say this same thing and it's something that I live by.

You know, like Michael Jordan said he never took a shot.

He never practiced.

Right?

He was always prepared for moments.

And I've heard you say, you know, you were always prepared to do what you needed to

do.

Talk to us about just the preparation again, I get it in sports, but also in life.

Like I think you are one of if not the most prepared posting for moments that I've ever

seen.

Well, thank you.

For me, you know, I just want to be ready.

I'm going to step in and then Irina, I want to be ready to go.

It doesn't mean that I, you know, of course, understand that sometimes you have to pivot

and especially golf.

I mean, things don't really turn out the way you think it is.

It might start raining on the third hole or you get bad bounces you think or whatever

the circumstance you have to learn how to pivot.

But I do feel like to do something well and, you know, feel comfortable in something

to me.

I'm just very shy by nature.

So for me, preparation was a way to, you know, handle a situation.

Knowing I'm ready, I can do that.

Then that's shyness and that nervousness didn't really appear so much.

So I think for me, it was just, it's almost like living and doing something before you do

it made me feel very comfortable.

And I think I can relate that to many things in my life where I feel in my mind.

I've done it and then I go and try and do it.

You know, for me to go into a situation where totally, you know, out of the blue or totally

cold, it would make me really, you know, uncomfortable.

And that's where I think preparation gives me confidence and I like to do things well.

I mean, I like to represent personally myself, my partners, my family.

And to do that, to be, you know, you want to make sure that you do what you can and that's

giving me confidence, I think, coming in and being aware of a situation or have done

the research knowing what I'm talking about, it just helps to feel good about something.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

I just learned something.

I did not know that you were shy by nature.

I would not have known that without you interacting all the things that you do and the lives

that you touch.

But speaking of the lives that you touch, again, I think you single handedly have the greatest

impacts on the game of golf at an international and global level.

And I give Tiger a ton of credit for that as well too.

But I think you kind of have that first because again, for someone like me, it was watching

you, it's watching you play and it was watching, again, the domination that you had, but

the preparation that you had, and you did everything with grace.

And that's what I love.

Like you're ultra competitive and I know that because I'm ultra competitive too.

But you still handle things with grace.

And I think a lot of people that are ultra competitive don't necessarily do that, right?

It's easy to win with grace, but it's not easy to not win.

I'm not going to say lose, but it's not easy to not win with grace.

And did you realize the global impact that you were having on lives?

Yeah, I mean, I think just growing up in Sweden and Sweden is quite a small country that

early on I was exposed to traveling around the world to compete.

I mean, started obviously in Scandinavia and then it was Europe and then it was a little

bit more globally after.

And I just, you know, you get to experience different cultures and different people and

understanding what a little bit more about the world.

So I learned pretty early what, you know, the big picture.

And so I think for me was, you know, early on is like, well, I represent myself.

I also represent Sweden and women's golf.

And yes, I am extremely competitive.

And I think I'm one of those players that, you know, I work very hard behind the scenes,

you know, very disciplined.

And then the curtain will open and here I come and I do my thing.

And then I kind of go, I've always wanted to take the trophy and run.

I was never really somebody who wanted to be seen and be heard and, you know, kind of

be on stage and have that limelight.

That's not really what I was, that's ever really been important to me.

I think what's been important to me is obviously the sport playing well, becoming a good

golfer and fine-tuning my game.

And like my dad always said, you know, I'm like, I let the clubs do the talking.

And that's really, you know, I would say that's kind of my core, how I am and what I stood

for.

And it made me comfortable.

You know, I was never, you know, a drama and theater and singing that was just never

my thing.

But sports were, and this was my way of performing, but also doing it in a way that, you

know, I enjoyed grinding.

I mean, I love hitting balls on the range, I love working on my stroke.

You know, I went out there and there was the gym or the mental aspect, you know, dissecting

my game and pieces and really trying to make every piece the very best that I could.

And I figured, you know, if I was the best player in every category, you know, I would be

hard to beat.

And that was really how, what drove me, that was my motivation.

And that's what, you know, that was my goal through the years.

And you did it better than anyone else has ever done.

So congratulations and kudos to you.

But I know as proud as you are of what you did, you know, in the game of golf and what

you're continuing to do in the game of golf, you also, and these are my words and my words

only.

But you're more proud, I think, of the lives that you're touching with the foundation

that you have.

And I'd love to talk about the onica foundation a little bit because I'm proud of the work

that you're doing.

And I want to give you the floor to talk about, you know, the addition behind the foundation.

Yeah.

Well, thank you for bringing that up.

You know, when I stepped away, I knew that I wanted to do something to get back and

maybe this ties in with the first question is because.

But I knew that, you know, I just, you know, I'm not finished.

I just finished competing myself, but I wanted to continue my legacy and be able to inspire

the next generation of, you know, because I remember when, again, when I was a young girl,

a shy young girl and what was important and, you know, who I was looking up to and what

were the possibilities?

And, you know, when I stepped away in 2008, I mean, I felt like the possibilities of

being a female golfer is a lot bigger today than it was, you know, when I, you know,

when I started and I obviously now 20 years later, it's even more opportunities for these

young women.

And to me, that is just, I don't know, it makes you feel good and makes you proud that

you're part of a sport where, you know, opportunities exist for young players, you know, to work

hard and, and be able to travel around the world and, you know, you know, for, and have

it, you know, make a living on a sport that they love.

And so, you know, I really, I really get a lot of joy out of spending time with young,

you know, young, don't have to be professionals, but, you know, as you know, these amateurs nowadays

act like professionals.

They're so, they're so mature already, but just to be able to talk to them and inspire

them, motivate them and guide them by sharing stories or mistakes that I made and, and then

to see them go on and, and do very well.

I mean, it's like, you cheer for them and you be caught, you know, you become part of

their journey.

And I, I really get a lot of joy out of that and, and I feel like with my knowledge I have

or the expertise and kind of the resources, you know, the foundation, we've been able

to provide these opportunities to empower and advance young women through the sport.

So, yeah, it's competitions, but it's also mentoring.

We do sponsor some players, we sponsor a tour.

We recognize successes for these young women and, and it's just, I don't know, it's just

open doors for them and, and it's been fun to see the growth of women's sport and on

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And I actually learned from you through the foundation as well too, and I've had this

question for you.

So I've been waiting to sit on because I need help, hoping that Anika can help me here.

How do these young people in such a distracted time that we have now, right, like when I was

growing up, I'm sure when you were growing up, there were no cell phones, there were not

distractions in your face.

And I'm not saying that these are bad things, so don't think I'm being the old guy in the

room, right?

But I'm doing the right.

How did you help people focus in a distraction, heavy world that we're in now?

And this is me learning from you right now, so you're coaching me.

Well, I don't know if I have the certificate to do that, but no, I know exactly what you

mean, because I mean, I have two teenagers at home and, you know, personally also, you

know, we have cell phones and it feels like we're so busy all the time and that, you

know, my mom says it all the time, just, you know, you guys are running around all day

and, you know, of course, they're in the 80s, so they don't remember what they did when

they were 40 or 50, and I'm sure they did similar, but I do feel like we, you know, by having

access to whether it's information or to people or just to anything, it's like we are constantly

at a demand, either people want us or we need other people, and it just feels like it's

at the fingertips.

So it's, there is a lot of distractions and, you know, this human communication and going

for a coffee break or, you know, those are just, they're very rare because, you know,

the phone will ring or somebody texts you, and so that accessibility, I think, is good

and bad, but also our, you know, our patient's level is so it's not the way it used to be.

So it's like you take somebody, you don't text them five minutes, you're like, oh, what's

wrong, right?

So I think, so how do I manage that, how do I tackle that with our kids?

You know, I think it's all about what's important, you know, you have to prioritize what's,

you know, when it's you and you're doing something, achieving something and staying focused,

and it's a constant battle for me, it's having a little me time, and, you know, if I'm in the middle

of something, then, you know, this is my time, and, you know, I don't want to have distractions

or other people, I don't need more information, I don't need more reals and videos to just, you know,

complicate the decisions that you make, you know, put the phones away, focus on the moment,

and achieving things, and that's what I think is one of the things so good about golf is,

you know, on the reins, I mean, there's a few things that you can do, you know, leave the,

you know, the phone in the golf bag, leave the phone in the car, go hit some balls and put,

have a little competition, and, you know, don't put any backpockets so that you feel every buzz

or whatever it is, and, you know, and just, so there's some other things that we do, but then

again, I mean, technology is a good thing. I mean, today you can film swing, you can, can,

look at other people's swings, and you can analyze and get all kinds of information,

so it's finding that balance where you are, you know, still can be a human, because you know,

I mean, people talk about this AI, and I don't know if this is even part of the conversation, but,

you know, there's some things you can replace, I don't think you can replace a golfer or an athlete

like in certain things, right? So you still have to do, you know, do it, and that's really the

repetitive motion of hitting shots and shots, so I always tell our son, especially,

is that you don't need your phone here, you know, we're working on our swing, and it's you and I

would have a discussion, so it's finding that balance where technology is helping, but then also,

it's almost like a curve, you know, I guess to the point where it's good, and then too much is

just kind of like that. So yeah, I think balance is the word that we all need to, you know,

implement in our lives, and, you know, that balance level, of course, can be different for different

people. Let's try to answer your question, but it is something that we constantly, I mean,

from the day we wake up to the day we go to bed, it's, you know, there's distractions left and right.

Yeah, no, you answered it perfectly. I made a bet for me, like, you were coaching me because,

you know, I work with youths and do a lot of my communities, and one of the things that I run

into, it's like every teenager now was almost like their own publicists or their own journalists,

right? Because they can go run their social media account and do whatever, and again, I'm not saying

there's anything wrong with it. I just had to learn what you just told me, and that's what I'm

going to use is the balance, the healthy balance of, of distractions or of technology or of AI.

So thank you for that. I need a bet. Lesson learned from the office or you know, one of the things

that I've always praised you about and something I've learned, and I know you're helping your

athletes and students with this too, is just the mental fortitude that it takes, not just to win,

but to manage pressure. And I've always said this, you know, I work with entrepreneurs, I work with

salespeople, and I work with young folks as well too. Pressure is a real thing, but how you

control it, how you manage it, how you prepare for it is what separates those that can handle it

and those who can't. And I don't like when people say there's no such thing as pressure. I'm like,

no, you never been in those moments before. There are moments where pressure is definitely real.

How do you work with your students on managing pressure?

Yeah, no, I mean, there's no doubt that pressure exists. I think pressure comes in different

forms for sure. I mean, I would say in my case, a lot of the pressure that I feel it's coming

from me personally, you know, expectation. Certain things I want to achieve or people, you know,

I think that they maybe expect me that I have to do with certain things. So you put pressure on

yourself and you know, I think, again, it goes back to preparation, you know, if I'm not prepared,

then I feel a lot more pressure because it's like, okay, what am I doing? How am I going to attack

this and what am I going to say? And so, but I think, you know, pressure kind of goes hand in hand

with with goals and what do you want to achieve in being realistic about it? And I think that if,

you know, for me, pressure has always been a way for me to focus a little bit more, being more

disciplined because I think pressure in a way is like, okay, well, it's time to do something. And

I just stay more focused if I rather than not having a goal or maybe not a deadline or maybe not a

whenever it could be, I think it's important to have, I mean, you can have a vision and then you

have a goal and then then somehow pressure comes in there. But it's like anything, a little pressure

is good too much is obviously, you know, I think that can be detrimental and the same thing if you

don't feel anything. Then it's like, well, does this really mean anything to you? Do you care about

this? So, and I think how do you deal with pressure is in golf a lot of times it's been routines

sticking to my warm up routine, my pre-shot routine because it makes me focus on kind of my task

and not so much on the results. If you just stare at a stare at something and then I can see how

how the pressure would be, you know, you mounted pressure versus, okay, I got to do this. So now

you're like in the process of, okay, I got to, you know, choose the club, where's the win and take

the practice wing. Now it's like I'm not focusing on the result, I'm focusing more on what to do.

As they say, the journey versus just, you know, staring at the result. And so I welcome pressure

and I always talked about these young women, you know, pressure and being nervous. It's like,

you need a little bit of that in your mix, in the recipe, you need a little bit of that,

but not too much. And so, and again, in the end of the day, I try to say if you're prepared,

that's certainly going to help you. And it's all those hours behind the door. A lot of people

might think, well, that's boring, but it's that boringness, the consistency that eventually you

sniff out and now you execute and now people are paying attention. And that's kind of what I enjoy

and that comes with all these different factors that create results. I agree. And, you know,

you taught me years ago muscle memory. And I heard you talking in an interview one. So, you know,

almost that mundane, right? The practice it until you can't practice it anymore because you have

so much to think about that you don't want your body to react. You don't want your mind to react.

You want your body in mind to do what it knows how to do. You want to be able to mentally tell

yourself, I just need to hit the ball over here. You know how to do it because you've done it a

hundred million times, right? Talk to us about that. The power of mental reps and your body

doing what it's supposed to do versus reacting to something or in the mind to not just the body.

Yeah. I mean, that's, I think, you know, when you look at people that perform at the highest

level, you know, they find that good balance. They find, you know, how to manage that. And,

but you're right. I mean, the mind is really where it starts. I mean, it has to come. And I think

it has to come from you personally. You know, you can have people tell you a lot of different things.

But, you know, and I feel like my mind is probably one of my strongest suits. Like, if I decide to

do something, it's, you know, my mind and then my body and then I go and do it. But that connection

is, you know, it's really important. I mean, especially, you know, and golf, as I know, the sport,

it's, you know, a lot of people have the physical attributes and then it's like, well, it doesn't

really connect. And then you have the vice versa. We have a lot of people that are just

extremely focused. And then the physical aspect doesn't really connect. So, you know, get a work,

I mean, they need to be together in the sense that you have to taper them also. If, you know,

what I mean, a lot of people, I think are, you know, they feel physically strong. And then,

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That's Grammarly.com. Versus trying to do something. I mean, I'm not six four, so I can't do

certain things and I'm, you know, this, but I can do it, you know, the way I think and that's,

I think that's how you get success in the long run. Yep, I agree. So I know how competitive you are.

Do you ever, every once in a while just have to show them, hey, I still got it.

I mean, yeah, that's the hardest part. When you're, I mean, I would say anybody that's been,

you know, have achieved success or, you know, been at the top of something and, you know,

that personal satisfaction or feeling that you still have some kind of worth, if you know what I mean,

like a purpose and I, a lot of times is, you know, you, you don't see a lot of athletes. I mean,

they don't necessarily leave on their own, you know, many of them are forced to leave, maybe injuries,

sort, could be things and then, then you always wonder what it would have been like to, you know,

to get to the top and be able to leave on your free will. I was lucky to leave on my free will,

but then also when you step away, you keep asking yourself, you know, what's your purpose and what

are you doing now and being competitive and always having to perform and or show something and I

think that's been the hardest part for me, you know, the last few years is how do you still feel like

you're doing something and that's why the foundation has been a good thing for me, you know, because

I look at the girls and I, I get joy out of that. But of course, you know, when I go play into my

mind, I'm still 28 and you still feel like, you know, you feel good and then it just doesn't come

together and those, I mean, it's frustrating and I know other athletes have been at the top and

they don't, they don't perform now. It just, I can't just shake it and say, you know, because you're

always care and you always feel like, you know, I did it, like I just talked to somebody about my 59

and I'm just like, well, why don't I do that again? So I think as athletes and maybe type A personalities,

people that are doers and strivers, it's hard when you leave your arena and try to do something

else that you still feel like you, you know, that you have, you know, again, a purpose or a role in

your second chapter, a third chapter. Totally agree, totally agree. You know, speaking of the

foundation, because I'm such a huge fan of the impact that you're making and the because, not even

the mission, but the because behind the foundation, what are ways that those that are watching or listening

can, can be a part of the foundation that can help the foundation that can support the foundation?

Yeah, well, thank you. Oh, it's Anika Foundation up org number one. If you just want to check out

what we do, again, it's about empowering and advancing your women through the sports. There's a lot

of life lessons, you know, it's not just okay, another golf tournament, another, you know, challenge.

I mean, it's really about the human beings and I tell people all the time, you know, we're humans

that play golf or not golfers that trying to be human beings. So, you know, we really try to educate

these young women, you know, build a great base. If golf is your calling great, but, you know,

why don't we use this golf as a platform for you to achieve your dreams, you know, off the course.

It could be, you know, in manufacturing, maybe it could be internaments, it could be in management,

it could be in journalism, whatever, it could be something that you can still use the game of golf.

And we need women, you know, in these areas outside of competition. So, but I really feel like

golf is, is a sport that teaches you so much about life. I mean, just you wake up in the morning

and you know, we talked about the word patience, you know, we talked about pressure and I mean,

as you know, there's a lot of integrity and discipline and confidence. All those things golf

teaches you that and it's just the sport that, you know, humbles you, but also sports you can do

all your life. And so, the synergy is really there. So, as far as somebody wanting to help, I mean,

you can go to the, to our website, learn a bit more about our cause and then look at what the

things we do, we had lots of different initiatives. Of course, you can volunteer. I'll be part of our

events, you know, help these young girls, resources, all kinds of stuff. I mean, sponsorships

doesn't have to be necessarily just money. It could be, you know, other things, whatever it is that,

you know, you might have access to that could be helpful. And also just spreading the word about,

you know, what we do and sign up your young girl to one of our initiatives. We're all over the

country in different parts. You know, we're going to be in Atlanta later in the spring. And then,

I mean, we have tournaments all around the world. So, if you feel like you have, you know, a six

year old to 12 year old, I just want to learn the game. We have initiatives for that. If you know

somebody who's 12 to 18 and, you know, somewhat, you know, competitive, we have tournaments for that.

And then we also have players that are just graduating from college and entering the, you know,

the pro circuit sponsor 14 of them, you know, they're just kind of entering that face, you know,

they didn't sign the million dollar contract. They need some help along their journey. So, we have,

you know, people they're helping them together with the foundation. So, there are different ways to,

you know, to help. And it is the next generation of young women. And what I get it, again, a lot of

joy out of is these women are amazing representative of the sports. So, they're great role models for,

you know, for, for the next generation of theirs. So, that's, that's pretty cool, I think. And one

day, I know they will get back to what's important to them. Absolutely, absolutely. So, the event in

Atlanta, do you know the date for that? I got to look into that. Well, I'll look it up and I'm

going to look at it. It's closer to my passion. Yeah, it's a share, share my passion, clinic,

and we do different things. And it's just, you, you write a letter while you want to be part of it.

And a lot of it, the topic is why you live golf. And so, yeah, I just, just to, and it's just fun.

It's nothing, you know, no pressure pack. It's just introduction to the sport. You know,

some girls are really good, but, you know, you get a chance to hit. You get a chance to pat. We do

like a fitness station and I do clinic and just do things like that. We do. But, yeah, I mean,

I'm happy to send it. Or you go that, this should be really it right on the foundation, which I

get it. I'll get it in the foundation. No, no, no, I'll get it from there. And the reason I ask

is because Atlanta is two hours from me. So, I would love to support however I can. And anytime

you're doing anything East Coast, Southeast, I am hurt and going to make sure that I do my part

to support and help, whether that's potentially being physically there or whatever it is. Like,

I'm going to do that. And I'm going to challenge a few of my viewers and listeners as well too. So,

I'm going to find an onica foundation event and make a plug is going to go represent.

And so, it should come there. I mean, talk to the girls and I mean, it's just, I don't know,

so fun. They're so, they're like sponges, right? They want to learn and what I like really about

this. And you know, this already, but, you know, boys are, when you do clinics with boys, you know,

they have a lot more confidence, you know, they raise their hand and they're, they feel confident,

even though they don't know anybody at the clinic. You know, a lot of girls are, you know,

they're afraid to sign up and they think that they are not good enough or I don't know anybody.

And all of a sudden, they show up and also, you see, you know, 40 other girls, you're age,

you're like, wow, I thought I was alone doing it. And that just, you know, that's, you know,

girls need to be more in a, they more like impact, you know, they go in groups and they have fun

in a group. But always in general, you know, they don't, they're more like, they can be more

lone wolves if you know, I mean, they can go out there and they find people. But, you know,

young ladies and young girls, they need to be in a pack where they feel comfortable in the little

girl zone. Absolutely. Again, you are my goat of goats. I, I know how busy you are. So just to,

to take a little bit of time out of your day and your schedule means the absolute world to me,

I'm going to get you out of here on my rapid fire top five. So you don't get to prepare,

you don't get to think, but it'll be fun. Of course. Yeah, no, thank you for having me on my show,

number one. I know you've done quite well. So I was intrigued to have a conversation.

No, it meant the world to me. You made my year. You've already made 2026. So I can talk to no one

else. Now, it will be perfect and content. But like I said, I am going to support the foundation.

So I'm going to, I'm going to do that. I'll reach out to your team and figure out what I can do

and how I can do it. But I'm a huge supporter and thank you. All right. So here's the rapid

fighting. Ready? All right. Number one, the favorite course you've ever played.

Alpine Valley. I knew you've already said that. I just wanted to hear it. Okay.

No, no, no, I've heard to say it on on TV before. What's one golf rule that you would change?

You know, I don't like when you hit a good drive in the middle of the fair where you're in

somebody's divots. That should be ground under repair. Yes, totally agree. So I know you're an

athlete too. So the size golf growing up, what was your other built to sport? So I competed in

tennis for eight years. So that was really what I wanted. I wanted to be a tennis pro. I watched

the U.S. Open a lot. And then I did a lot of downhill skiing. So yeah, I have those two sports.

But I love sports in general. But that would say those two. And I have a lot of things that I could

have done and continue to do. Yep. One of the best athletes you will ever find is Anika.

What's one hidden talent that you possess that most people don't know you have?

A hidden talent. I enjoy cooking. You know, I don't burn too many things. My husband

think I can make that. My husband think I can make anything out of leftovers. So but he's very

nice. There you go. There you go. I'm a good scrambler. How about that? I love it. I love it. So last

question. Your ideal Sunday afternoon looks like what? You know, I love being home. So we would

probably an afternoon where I can prepare for a nice meal for some friends. We love to entertain

having good friends over. So for me to look through a few recipe books, you know, put a meal

together like a three course and then head out to my herb garden and then doing that. That's

probably what I enjoy. And then, you know, my family, you know, just being in the area where

their mic is watching football or hanging out and the kids are there. Maybe they're playing with

friends in the area. That would be my favorite, you know, Sunday afternoon. I'll do that any day.

Anika, again, totally honored to spend time with you. This means the world to me. Everybody do

me a huge favor. Anika foundation dot org right over there right now. There's many ways that you

can be a part of what's going on and just see all the goodness that Anika and the foundation team

are doing to impact the lives and the development of others. So Anika, thank you so much, dear.

Thank you. You've been a true gentleman. Thank you very much. You got it. To all the viewers and

listeners, remember, you're because. Here's your superpower. Go and meet. That's another powerful

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