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No one cares where you're coming from.
My ears are still ringing and beating.
I guess we are new from this time.
These are the days when I'm causein' no.
Your one of these days will be the world.
Looking for answers or what it's asking.
These are the days my heart goes numb.
My heart goes numb.
Riding the fumes of the ashes, the spirits light up the night.
Looking down the night.
We're live from the Untold Radio Network.
It's Untold Radio AM.
With Monster Quest Producer, host Doug Highcheck, and co-host Jeff Porella Jr.
Untold Radio AM is going live right now.
This show is for entertainment purposes only.
Yep, that's the ticket.
Here are your Untold Radio AM hosts, Doug Highcheck, and Jeff Porella Jr.
Hello, hello.
Hey, everybody, hey Jeff.
Hey, Doug.
How are you?
Good to see you.
Sawin' good tonight.
Yeah, I'm over that flu.
Sawin' better and you got to make that works?
Call it a man.
Yeah, a lot of weapons.
So tonight we have what promises to be very interesting evening.
We are glad everybody is here.
We are doing a roundtable discussion on sound.
It's been a while.
Chris Reinhart has recorded a whole series of new sounds.
So I think you're going to be pretty thrilled to hear.
Pretty weird stuff.
And so Adam was involved in finding, you know, going through all of Chris's stuff.
And then of course David Ellis, who was also joining us, went through and, you know,
studying the sounds and peeled away any audio noise and stuff so we can hear them.
And then we have Tristan Yolten, who was, somebody who has been heavily involved in sound for quite a long time.
And so Tristan will be here too.
Yep.
Got a great group of guests and I can't wait.
Yeah.
And so what else we have?
And then, oh, since Adam's already here, he's going to be doing our tech breakdown tonight on some new optical equipment
that you're definitely going to be interested in.
I was, even while I was wild when he was telling me about this new piece of gear that's available now.
Cool.
Looking forward to it.
No, what he knows about.
Yeah.
So we've also got, you know, tech breakdown.
I mentioned Adam's doing it.
We've got clip picks, weird news.
Weird and fast news and no contest.
No, no, we're not doing a contest.
I don't know.
So anyhow, hang tight, get comfy journals, ding, lights down, grab a warm beverage, but not like Jeff.
Do not grab something like Jeff grabs.
Never going to let that go.
Are you?
No, never.
Until next New Year's Eve.
Okay.
Never.
Turn off the light.
Any else.
No, again, turn the lights down and let's just go ahead and get our evening going.
All right.
Time for some weird and fast news.
It's time for weird and fast news.
All right.
What do we have first?
So tonight, I'm going to give you kind of a rundown.
We have a story on octopus deception, rope black holes, lightning-proof trees, a robot bees,
mysteriously, mysterious blinking stars in a new possible giant mega otter.
And then we're going to talk just a tad bit about all the planets that are lining up tonight.
That's pretty wild.
I didn't see it good last night.
I went and looked.
Yeah.
And they're going to be lined up for a little while, I guess.
Yeah.
I think last night was the best, but I couldn't see real good from around that.
Yeah.
You have a day or two.
Yep.
All right.
First off, marine biologists just documented an octopus that didn't just camouflage like they normally do.
It actually pretended to be a jellyfish to get close to its prey instead of hiding.
Pulse, it drifted like a jellyfish, mimicking tentacles until it was close enough to strike.
Now, this may be the first known case of a predator mimicking a dangerous species, not for defense,
but for deception.
The ocean continues to be a psychological thriller, I guess.
The actual picture of a octopus wearing a jellyfish hat.
You skipped over, though.
I love the title for this.
Oh, the octopus that lied.
The octopus that lied.
That could be like a movie title.
I love it.
The octopus that lied.
So yeah, they are just more than.
Yeah, the more they study them, the more and more they're getting.
Actually, bizarre.
More alien-like.
Yeah.
They're really freaky.
Just thank God they're in the ocean.
Thank God they're small, right?
Yeah.
Because they could be quite an enemy if they were big and living amongst us.
Wouldn't be good.
All right.
Then we have rogue black holes that are on the move.
Please stay away from Anoka.
Astronomers may have found a black hole wandering through space
or being kicked out of its home galaxy.
They can see it directly, but they can't, but they can't see how it bends.
They can't see it directly, but they can see how it's bending light behind it.
And that's how they've been tracking it.
A gravitational ghost drifting through the cosmos.
Scientists are now watching where it goes because it passes near a star frame.
Where it starts system, things could get really interesting.
Be like the Hoover vacuum.
It's called gravitational lensing.
It actually diverts the path of light.
It's a pretty amazing stuff.
Yeah, that is.
I don't know.
What would we do?
What else we have here?
Then we have AI.
Now that is figuring out physics, which is what could go wrong here.
What could go wrong?
Researchers just built an AI model that learns physical laws on its own.
Instead of feeding it equations, they gave it raw data.
And it independently now has identified patterns that match real world physics.
The next frontier, AI that proposes new laws of the universe.
The question becomes, how do we know if it's right, if AI is right, giving us true info?
All right.
Who knows?
I don't know.
Pretty wild.
Then, if you want to know your tax dollars are going, they are developing lightning-proof trees.
Scientists have developed a gene-edited trees, not just a tree of trees.
They can resist lightning strikes by altering conductivity in the bark and roots.
Lightning may pass through without getting the tree on fire, igniting the tree.
If this scales, it could reduce wildfire risk in storm-heavy regions.
Come on.
That does seem like a good idea to me.
That's a function of nature.
I can do that.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm just like, oh, no.
I don't think it's a good idea at all.
Nature meets electrical engineering.
I'm not so sure what could go wrong.
It seems like a bad idea to me.
Yeah.
Anytime you mess with nature, I'm just like, I don't know.
Now, the next story is also a little scary.
Robotic pollinator bees.
This is the ultimate mess with nature.
So, engineers have actually built a tiny robotic pollinator.
I should say pollinators that flaple other wings like bees and deliver pollen mechanically.
These nanobots could help compensate for declining bee populations.
But they also raise a big question.
Are we building a synthetic ecosystem to replace the natural one?
This is fascinating and extremely unsettling.
No good, man.
How about we just work on getting more bees.
Doesn't that make more sense?
Yeah.
I don't know what I would do if I saw a nano bee.
I think there would be world-changing.
I'd be like, oh boy.
It's setting.
Yeah.
And of course, you know what a live camera is in it.
Yeah.
Probably.
I'm sure there already exists.
There's probably been nano-bots in the world.
It says they have them.
Yeah.
They're using them.
You've been spied on already.
Yeah.
The star that keeps the boinkin is our next story.
Astronomers are monitoring a star that's dimming in irregular patterns that do not match known
explanations, not planets, not dust, not rotation.
The pattern is structured but strange.
Exotic cosmic rings.
Unknown physics are just something we don't understand yet.
Astronomers still has mysteries.
Oh, really?
Lots of them.
Oh, really?
And then of our seventh little word in vast news, the mega-odder maybe has been spotted.
Fishermen in South America reporting a massive otter-like creature larger than any known species.
And I know they have giant otters down there.
But this apparently is quite a bit bigger.
Photo show a long serpentine ripples in the water.
Scientists say it's probably misidentification.
But similar reports keep coming.
Satellite thermal imaging may be used next.
Crypto-zoology is back in the water.
That's cool.
Oh, yeah.
There's an actual picture right there.
Actual photograph.
Yeah.
The mega-odder.
Yeah.
It should be a sci-fi movie.
It's 10 feet long.
At least 10 feet.
And then as we mentioned, the planets are lining up.
This week several major planets, including Venus, Jupiter and Mars,
are clustering visibly in the twilight sky.
Not a perfect line, but a rare visual grouping from Earth's perspective.
It's a reminder that we live inside a very much a moving machine of gravity and light.
No physical impact here.
Just a cosmic show worth stepping outside for.
So if you want to see something neat go outside.
Mm-hmm.
Pretty cool.
Yeah, so there you go.
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And then we have our weird fact of the week.
I'm not sure we did that one last year or last week.
I think we skipped one.
I think we did skip it.
Yeah, so you know what I did?
Not one, but two weird facts all the week.
So weird facts of the week.
Weird.
Let's talk about it.
Yeah.
It's now time for untold radio weird fact of the week.
That is kind of weird.
All right.
Now that we know octopus is lie.
We also know octopus is F3 hearts blue blood.
But did you know they can edit their own RNA?
Yeah.
So there's nothing else on the planet.
Yeah, of course.
As there are two hearts pump blood into the gills,
one pumps it to the rest of the body.
And when they swim, the heart that feeds the body
actually stops beating, which is why they prefer crawling.
The blue blood is because he uses copper instead of iron,
which is on to transport their oxygen.
But here's the wild part.
Octopuses can rewrite portions of their own genetic instructions
in real time.
Boy, Bill Gates wouldn't love this guy.
Yeah.
Allowing them to adapt to cold water
and other environmental changes
without waiting for evolution to catch up.
So while humans argue about upgrades,
the octopus is already been patching his own biological software
for millions of years.
That is amazing.
Yeah.
So there you go.
So apparently they can adapt to like cold water.
They can fine-tune their nerve signals,
adjust brain functions, react to environmental stresses.
So they don't wait around.
They just go at it.
Absolutely amazing.
Yeah.
And then our next weird fact of the week
is in 1938, a fish thought to be extinct for 66 million years,
the seal of cant was pulled up
in a fisherman's net off the coast of South Africa.
Before that moment, it only existed in fossils alongside dinosaurs
and scientists were convinced and advantaged
at the end of the Cretaceous period.
That's what, 66 million years ago, right?
Something like that.
Yeah.
About 16 million?
Yeah.
Then suddenly it was alive again.
About 16 million years ago.
Yeah.
I mean, whatever.
What if it's 67, Jeff?
Sure.
I think it's 65 million years ago.
Would you accept that?
Sure.
Okay.
Just making sure.
Anyhow, so they call it a Lazarus species.
Something believed to be extinct that turns out to be very much alive.
So, and for decades before 1938,
there were scattered rumors of local fishermen
about strange ancient-looking fish living in deep water,
but they were dismissed as folklore.
Turns out folklore was right.
So, the next time somebody laughs,
at reports of unknown creatures, deep rivers,
or creatures in remote forests,
just remember the seal of cant and remind them of that.
You ever seen the video of it?
There's actually a video of a living one.
It's pretty wild.
It's a lobed-in fish.
Yeah.
It's pretty wild.
They don't move like anything else.
They've got, they call it a lobed-in fish.
So, like, their fins on the end of like little stubby little appendages
and they move really weird.
Yeah.
There's actually, there's a couple of them that have been filmed alive.
They're almost dead.
But there are video swimming.
It's bizarre.
Huh.
I'll have to look it up.
Yeah.
The fish that reminds me of a seal of cant.
There's those little tiny betas that they sell at the, you know,
at the Walmart, so the pet stores, you know,
those things, those fish that live in a little jar.
Yeah.
You know, polar blue or red or whatever.
Is that what they look like only for?
I don't know.
Not at all.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think they've been extinct for 68 million years.
You could be right.
I'm moving it up.
Okay.
Well, let's get into our clips.
Yeah.
We have clips quick.
Everybody in our back room.
And then we're going to do, um,
tech breakdown.
So I hope Adam's ready.
You better get him.
You better get him.
You better get him.
You ready, Adam?
He's ready.
All right.
Let's do some clips.
All right.
Clip one.
No.
Clip two.
Clip one.
All right.
Clip one.
No.
Clip two.
Clip one.
I couldn't download Clip one.
So let's go to Clip two.
No.
Well, let's see here.
Hold on.
Is it now?
I can.
I can't.
Hold on.
I can explain it.
I can explain it.
I can play it.
I just did.
It just didn't download.
Good.
What do you mean?
Download.
Good.
Yeah.
I don't want to know.
Anyhow.
Yeah.
I can play it out for my.
All right.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Another way.
This is interesting.
How a plant can change.
Jane.
So purely at Princeton University researches when these very strange experiments, they put a plant
in a sealed dark room, no windows, nothing, and this plant obviously needs light to grow,
right?
So they install one single light on the ceiling and then move the plant in one corner of
the room.
And now the light installed was designed to rotate randomly into one of the four corners
of the room.
It's controlled by a random generator, so statistically, the light should heat each
quadrant equally.
But that's not what happened because over time, the light started shining more and more
often on the plant.
We should be impossible.
As if the plant was bending the probabilities in its favor to get what he needed.
So if simple life forms can influence reality, what does it mean about us?
Let me know what you think.
Is this coincidence?
Or something deeper?
Okay.
I need you to watch this because this is insane.
That's pretty wild.
It's not wild.
How a plant can influence a random number generator.
So that's all about manifesting.
And then clip two, just I know it was cool because this guy obviously is an amazing athlete,
but watch what he can do to a horse.
Go ahead.
It must be a Russian circus or something.
This makes that look so easy to do.
It's something I get out of bed in the morning.
That's right.
Clip three.
You know, the sound is good.
This is just really cool because it's an orangutan father, but he's a good dad and you
going to see this.
It's such a star wars animal, aren't they?
How are they bizarre looking, aren't they?
Yeah.
What is with all that?
All the things.
Yeah, they're just so it's a strange dream.
They have a lot of extra things.
Clip four.
Since we're going to be talking about sound, this is a siamane monkeys and they have this
pouch and they are really well good and play this.
Jeff Meldrum and I talked about, he believed that Bigfoot have an air sack, but it's not
on the outside.
It's on the inside of their body, which is interesting when they can use them in wild
things, what their sounds.
They sure can vocalize.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
Clip four is a holler monkey and this is also a great clip.
They sound like they're about 800 pounds.
Wow, play that again.
Interesting.
All right.
There are a lot of beers.
Does that sound like in the morning, I think?
Clip five.
This is a maze.
This is a maze is me that guts and it would take to do this.
How fast do you think this guy is going?
I think it's this kind of air.
I watch this.
It's not real hot.
It's not real hot.
It's a speedout.
Take the note.
It's just wanting.
That's crazy.
I believe that was a record.
Yeah, I think so.
I've seen that clip before.
I think that is the record.
Yeah.
All right.
Speaking of records.
Clip six.
This is the world's fastest little RST car and I got it up to 243 miles an hour.
What could go wrong?
A lot.
Oh, builds this thing to be kind of a fun project.
Builds it very aerodynamic.
It gets this thing up to 243 miles an hour, which I believe is the record for an RST.
How do you drive something like that?
You can't stay within range of it.
It's going by.
It's an ink fast.
I don't know.
That's amazing.
He must have built.
I'm thinking he must have built in some type of a steering stabilizer that managed kind
of like a segue.
So if it went too far right, it corrected itself.
Self-correcting could be probably as a gyro in it.
Yeah.
He must have a hell of a gyro in there.
All right.
Clip seven.
The sound is good.
This is interesting.
Beneath the Antarctic.
Plexules.
Ice forms the brinicle known as the finger of death.
Supercooled brine from newly frozen surface water sinks in a dense plume.
Freezing seawater around it into a hollow icicle that grows downward at up to 30 cm per hour.
When it reaches the ocean floor, this deadly tube unleashes a freezing cascade that traps
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There you go.
Yeah, that's pretty wild as he met before.
That is nice.
That's at the bathroom at the gas station.
Okay, what do we got here?
Nothing like anomalous freshwater ice tubes.
All right.
Clip 8, sound is good.
This takes island hopping to a home.
It's gotta be a red wall.
That's amazing.
There's no practice.
That's amazing.
Take some cuts.
All right.
Clip 9, the sound is good.
This clips a bit long, but I think it's worth it.
I mean, you've heard of the Rube, the Goldberg machines, like the mouse trap and things.
This takes it to a whole new level.
Go ahead and play it.
Somebody's got way too much time on their hands.
No kidding.
I like the flame under the butter.
Yeah, that's pretty clever.
Well, just enough angle to get that butter going.
Don't try this at home.
All right, there's all the sound.
Kill it.
Kill the sound.
There we go.
It's like, really?
It says cheerkin on the rope.
To pull the laptop down.
This is my favorite part.
The wheel with the notch out of it.
It's got way too much time on his hands.
Holy smokes.
Oh, yeah.
Get all that set up.
He ducks.
Just to get another piece of pie in the jury.
There you go.
That's pretty good.
All right.
Clip 10.
This is pretty cool.
The sound is fine.
This is very much a hypnotizing miniature.
I believe this is the ocean.
Yeah.
The ocean in the background.
Pretty in effect.
With the point mapping.
Fabric.
Projectors.
It's just a small miniature.
That's really cool.
And then we have a miniature waterfall construction.
Clip 10.
Which is pretty interesting.
I like miniature stuff.
This is a waterfall.
This is where we create tourist explore.
All right.
Now we have the world's most crooked church.
I don't know if it was built this way by on purpose or if it's by accident.
The world's most crooked church.
It feels really uncomfortable.
I can imagine.
I'm getting a headache, man.
I'm dizzy.
Wow.
All right.
Have you ever seen those.
Oh, those they claim them.
They'll be the anti-gravity minds.
Yeah.
They built them all.
Let me get you all discombobulated and built them all crooked.
All right.
Clip 12.
Sound is good.
This is a waterfall that goes up and centered down.
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Because of the winds.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
It's one of the only waterfalls that just constantly goes upwards into the sky.
Hmm.
We've seen that before.
Oh.
Well, that's good.
And I think our last clip.
I think it's our last clip.
Is the sound is good.
This is a Yellowstone stampede of bison that are being chased by wolves.
Go ahead.
You're going to see this.
There's a little unsettling.
Not because of the wolf, probably.
Man, I'd be on a stone building, going full speed out of there.
This wolf's like, uh, okay, what do I do here?
I don't get around to you guys.
Yeah, that was one of them slides.
I'd have been bailing.
That's what won't have been near that.
Yeah.
And then, uh, let's just go ahead and do this factor fake, which is really quick.
Okay.
And this was from the Rocky Mountain, Sasquatch, um, organization.
Okay.
And I had not seen this footage and, um, being loved to hear your comments in chat and,
um, I think, actual comments.
Go ahead and play.
It makes sense to me, though, when something is up on it, you know, far away like that.
I don't think it is a human.
I think it's a Sasquatch.
What do you think?
We went up and investigated the Provo Bigfoot Siding and wanted to show you some of the things
that we found.
It snowed four days after, so it would have covered up any of the tracks.
And during that four days, I believe I'm the only one that made it up there.
At least I'm the only one with, uh, video evidence, actually making it to the spot where the Bigfoot
was.
The guys that filmed it tried later on that afternoon and come up to some rock face walls and stuff
and didn't quite make it up there.
And then a guy a day after me or two days after me, he tried making it up there.
And he couldn't, it was, it warmed up and got too wet and sloppy.
So I, we studied the mountain for a couple of hours before I headed up and we, uh, kind of mapped out a way to get up there to avoid the rock walls and everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's too bad.
It's blurry.
Another blob squash.
It's interesting.
It's interesting though.
All right.
Uh, tech breakdown.
So we're going to end up bringing on our first guest.
Okay.
And uh, we'll introduce Adam.
I think most people know who Adam is.
He is, he is the crazy man who goes out alone solo camping.
And uh, in a, in a, in a teepee and puts up lots of crazy cameras.
So any of you know, here's Adam Colt with their tech breakdown.
All right.
And welcome Adam.
Hey guys.
Thanks for having me on again.
Yeah.
Are you recovered?
Uh, kind of.
I'm still a little sick.
So.
Yeah.
And it's where it's going around right now.
It's going around.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So okay.
So tell us how you came upon getting this little piece of technology.
Yeah.
It was a kickstarter that just popped up in one of my feeds or maybe on Facebook or whatever.
And I took a look at it.
I'm like, who?
It's kind of interesting.
Jeff, I did send you a clip I made earlier today.
Yep.
Last minute.
Hopefully you got it.
Yep.
The one that says compare night vision.
Yeah.
So I'll show you the device.
It's.
It's got a weird name.
It comes in a nice cool little carrying case like this.
It's called a Caso, I believe.
I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing that correctly or not, but.
Um, this is the little guy right here.
It's a new color night vision with theoretically a high death sensor.
So you can see it's not very big.
I'll put it up next to my head so you can see the size of it.
Um, yeah.
Uh, it's one of the smaller pieces of tech I have.
But it's really kind of cool.
And so I took it out last night and drove to a darker part of the city.
Uh, with some trees and some lakes and stuff.
And I just jumped out of the car and just started filming.
But what I did for you guys is I filmed with my iPhone as well.
So on the, uh, theoretically on the right side of the screen,
you'll be seeing the iPhone.
And it, it's just regular light.
But you can see how dark it was out when I was there.
So you're, so you're filming through the, the IPs with your iPhone.
Uh, I know.
I'm filming the iPhone.
I'm filming just the, the darkness with my iPhone.
No, the Picasso actually has a built in recorder.
So what you're seeing is directly recorded on the Acosta.
So yeah, I just go ahead and play it.
But this is, uh, you can see the both of them are synced up here.
And you can see the private drive sign in both of them.
In my vision, in normal.
Obviously, it's a world better than, uh, yeah, than an iPhone.
So you can see how a little light, I mean, that's pretty long light.
What did it look like to your eyes, Adam?
Oh, we lost Adam.
Hold on.
Oh, no.
It throws up.
Unlocked, Adam.
Unlocked.
There he is.
I don't know where he went.
Must have been his Picasso.
Got him.
You think?
Yeah, wait for him to come back.
Come back.
Come back.
Come back, Adam.
Got to reboot.
That's all.
Oh, yeah, did Adam freeze?
Yep.
He did.
Oh, some, a guest has, uh, whatever audience there has an Picasso too.
Yeah.
And how do you like it?
How do you like your Picasso?
And what model do you have the same one?
Okay, I just comment.
Adam was abducted by aliens.
I'm curious.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, there we are.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know what happened there.
Oh, you locked up.
I'm good.
Yeah.
So where did we leave off?
You got zapped by the Cuban sound missile.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
So anyways, it is a color night vision.
Obviously one of our, uh, the viewers has, has one.
They have a binoculars.
This is the monocular.
Uh, it's brand new, uh, and it was on Kickstarter.
I don't know if you can buy it directly from them, but I know they were.
And they were working the time to fulfill all their kick starters first.
Um, but go ahead and show that, you know, that clip.
If, and you can see that it.
We did.
I played it.
My question is, what will it do?
Um, like, uh, moonlit night.
What do you think it'll end up?
It'll look like daylight.
That's what's kind of cool.
And it's, okay.
And it's color.
So, yeah, if you looked at the, you know, the clip.
And I saw, I saw part of the clip before crashed.
Yeah, we watched it.
What's the, what's the cost?
Uh, roughly.
Did I bail?
Did I log out?
Yeah.
Yeah, you locked out.
You locked up and disappeared.
Okay.
We saw the clips.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah, it looks like daylight.
It doesn't look like night vision at all.
It looks like daylight.
Yeah.
So, um, and it's very quite clear.
So it does look.
It looks like they're being truthful with the high depth.
Yeah.
I mean, and it's, it's kind of nice little focus ring on the front of it too.
So you can actually kind of dial in the focus.
I know a lot of, you know, uh,
monoculars and stuff.
You just point and click and there's no focus on it.
So there you go.
Uh, it is not the third.
Same as thermal imaging.
Correct.
It is a night vision.
Uh, so it's using IR technology and not the, uh,
thermal technology.
So it's pretty cool.
Um, just a new fun little piece of kit and thought I'd,
you know, tell people about it.
Well, it's a craze because, um,
how would you compare it to the Sony A7?
Um, I think the A7 has better definition.
Okay.
But I think this is way more,
I mean,
I think this is way more, I mean,
this is 300 bucks, maybe 350 now versus like eight grand.
Yeah.
Sony is, you know,
3000 dollars just for a body.
Yeah.
And then the lens.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So this, this definitely, um,
probably would be a really good investment.
Uh, yeah.
I mean, you can't really go wrong for a couple hundred bucks, you know?
Yeah.
That's a new piece of kit to your tech.
I'm always looking for good deals and low budget stuff and, um,
yeah.
So hope you enjoyed that.
I'm glad you guys.
Thank you.
Yeah.
And so I think we, um,
maybe you can get us a link for the, uh,
usually those kickstaters are still up.
Okay.
And maybe you can get us a link and Jeff could post it in the description.
I thought it was a new company,
but obviously some of the viewers already have their binoculars and stuff like that.
So it sounds like they're just kickstarting some of their new tech.
So it's probably, uh, probably a Koso.com.
So here's the, I'm looking it up right now.
Right now.
Okay.
Yeah.
It just, this just came in the mail to me a couple days ago,
and I was on the kickstarter.
So I don't know how many people have these,
but I remember waiting.
Is, is there an I already met her out there at all?
Yeah.
I'm there.
As far as I know, there isn't a midter on here.
Um, I don't know the distance of it,
but it looked pretty good.
And, you know, we're out.
I was out in the night and it picks up a lot of the natural IR as well.
So I'm interested in using it with my,
my flood lights this summer.
So very cool.
Yeah.
All right.
Good job.
Well, they'll stick around because we are going to,
I guess, just take a quick break and then bring everybody on.
Yep.
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Yeah, and so let's bring on David Ellis from the Olympic project Chris Reinhart from
the Real American Monsters podcast to recorded the sounds and Tristan Jolton who resides out west and
does a whole lot of recording. Hey Chris. Hi everybody. Hey, you got to do your signature. Hello,
hello, hello, hello, hello, my friends and monster land. There we go. There. Now it's official.
Hey, how's it going, Doug? Good. Long time no talk. Yeah, see you guys.
Afternoon. Yeah. It's been a long time. Anyhow, Chris, these, okay, so we're going to address these sounds first.
Um, so why don't you just explain as maybe as quick as as you can about this property and why you
left a recorder there. Okay, so the property that we captured these, these vocals, so
called, you know, vocals is in Winstead, Connecticut, where I'm from. I researched this area for six
years. The habituation area. We, uh, we traded. We did a whole bunch of experiments there. Um,
we gathered a lot of information at this place and the property was sold and we couldn't get back
in there for a couple of years. Um, we were decided to start filming, you know, doing these
travel documentaries and we were looking for a place to set up one night just to see, you know,
just to get some night footage for for what we were filming. So I'm like, well, let's just go to
Larry's. We'll go in as far as we can. That's the name of the property layer. We'll go in as far
as we can. We'll set up there and we'll see what happens. Well, we set up there that night. We
brought a couple chairs in. We sat down on the edge of the property line where we could be
in the dark, not no lights, no nothing. And like, just like when I was there before, they came in
knocked behind us, who stones at us. And as the night progressed, they got really cold. It was
in August and it got down to like 48 degrees here in Connecticut in August last year. And we're
in T-shirts and we're not dressed for 48 degree weather. And so we decided to tie the recorders
up in the trees. Myasel, keep recording because they were there. And we split and then we came back
the next day and gathered up the recorders and then I went home and started going through them
and dressed with history. I found what I thought to be yells and boops and whatever. And then I sent
them out to Adam and then I sent them out to David and the rest has been history since then. We've
been going back and forth now with these recordings for a few months now, just some dot our eyes and
cross our teeth to make sure what we're listening to is what I, in my opinion, could be a Sasquatch vocals
in this area. And we have three different individuals. And David will talk about more like about that,
how he, you know, how he, he comes up to the analysis. Now, yeah, I came to talk.
How we came up with the new program that we're using and how he can tell that there was three
different separate individuals. And this program is unbelievable and that the cleanup is unbelievable.
And Adam and David are two of the, that's out there in the business at cleaning this stuff up
and finding it. And I'm just privileged to have them, you know, help me out and work, work
close to me and have them as my friends. And we're here to let people listen to it tonight.
Awesome. So Adam, when you first got them, obviously they weren't as clean as, and then they were
probably hard to even pick out of all these hours. Chris sent me the amazing clip first that got me
really interested in it all. And I'm like, okay, I want to hear the original because I'm always the
guy who wants to hear the original unedited version. And so he sent me a three hour clip and said,
here you go. And I sat down and started going through it and started finding all the little
nuggets of everything inside there. And so Chris is like, yep, keep doing it. And I'm like, well,
it takes me like six hours to go through one hour of your audio. And so I put about a week into
that project. And then I sent Chris back all the clips that were enhanced with volume and a
little bit of noise reduction. And then from there, David took, took over and really got down to
the needy gritty and stripped away a lot of the stuff. So yeah. So David, how much time did you
put into these clips? Well, not as much as these guys, I've refined my process so that I can get
at a quick. It takes me probably three hours, maybe to do a real thorough edit.
And the process is, as I pull Chris and Adam and you, Doug, that I kind of end the shaving a light
edit. And I keep going back to the original to make sure that I'm not adding artifacts.
And not not changing the sound. Yeah. So you're sneaking up slowly. Yeah. Yeah.
But David, you're spending three hours on a what on a 30, 40 second clip. Yeah. Yeah. And I spent six
hours listening to an hour of raw material. Right. I used to do it by ear. And in 2010, I was
bemoaning the fact that I was falling asleep listening to audio clips to my mentor, Minanga Hale.
And he says, why are you listening to him? Why don't you look at him? Yeah. And it kind of
my mind exploded, you know, how do you, what do you mean? Look at audio. I didn't make any sense.
And then he taught me what a spectrogram was. And then I have a very close friend,
Johnny Manson in the radio business that was looking at what I was doing. He says, you might
want to try this audio platform called Spectral Layers. And I said, well, what is that going to do
when he said, well, it's professional editing. Yeah. Oh, okay. So I back in 2013, 14 or so,
I purchased Spectral Layers back then it was eight hundred bucks. Now it's like a couple hundred
bucks. But the version that I have allows me to do editing that the current version doesn't do.
So I'm glad that I've got this old version that still works for me. Yeah. Very cool. Okay. So
Chris, do you want to do the honors you and David introducing these different clips?
No, well, David's probably got him all organized number and I'm sure actually I don't this time.
I just rifled them off to Jeff and so I've got stuff from everybody and I have file names on him.
So if you let me know the file name, I've got them all ready to go. I wasn't certain exactly what
we were going to talk about tonight. So I left it up to you guys. How you wanted to handle it. So
if you want to read me some titles, Jeff, I can well, I've got Chris's Chris's stuff here first.
I've got one that says Adam original, Adam edit, August 30, 0 1 B, August 30, 0 1 C.
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Sure.
Tristan, have you have you recorded anything new lately?
Yeah, I recorded a couple of things a few months ago when the most recent thing was when I was at
Trout Lake. I cut, I think I mentioned this on the last time I was on your show, and I have
to send that clip to Jeff. You haven't been on my show in over a year and a half. I've got some
clips of Kristen. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was actually on your show like a little while ago.
You were on, you were on Chris's show. No, I was actually on this show again.
Good night, everybody. I mentioned that I, I captured something on Trout Lake.
Okay. It sounded like something by Peter walking up to one of my recordings.
Oh, okay. And it bonks it. And you can actually hear that.
Yeah, we're going to, we're going to talk about Mike Bond, too.
Yeah. Well, Chris, do you have your clips yet?
Well, get up. So day, I mean, Jeff, you want to, you want to put in the whoop knock start
change is the first file you want to play. So this, when we first sat down and we were waiting
there and to see what was going to happen. This is what happened right off the bat.
This is, they came in behind me like we, they used to and I had to change some of the voices.
So the voices sound weird. That's because someone that was there isn't part of it anymore.
And I just thought that was the proper thing to do instead of playing the other voice.
But you can let that one. This is what happened when we first sat down. Okay.
Oh, yeah.
That was close to.
So they came in right behind us and that was probably 20 to 25 yards right and back of us.
And that not came. You could hear the whoops at the beginning. I didn't,
I didn't amplify him too much, but there's a whoop and then all of a sudden you hear that knock
and he was like, oh, that was close. Yeah, that was extremely distinct. So then the next one would
be the rock throw one. I got this, I did all the earlier, the first flip and then the ones that
David sent you were probably the ones with the singing and whatever they, whatever they're doing.
So yeah, yes. So all right. So the next one, play the rock. It's just a just,
we were sitting there and a rock came flying through the foliage and that's all this is.
I'm sure everybody's heard it before, but I'm just trying to line up everything as we go along.
Okay, here we go.
We can hear the rock come through the trees and then land down into the creek.
We'll try it one more time, but
sure, we can play it again.
I don't think this has ever been done a video show about audio before.
Well, I think we should do an audio show about video then.
Well, we don't have to, we don't have to play the rock again. Everybody's,
I'm sure he's heard rock coming. All right. So play Adam original. So this is the first one,
this is the first clip that I sent to Adam and then this is the clip that I sent to David also.
Among other clips, but this is the one I found. Okay, here we go.
All right, so the next clip you want to play is Adam at it. Now, this is what Adam came up with.
Okay.
Here we go.
Oh
all right so we missed the beginning part we might want to
try that one more time
so that that little piece at the end that final two seconds that's traffic that
traffic from the road that's got a little bit amplified those definitely have
the wall factor Chris yeah now Adam can explain to what he did to him then I got
David what he David's next I got him all his edits and he got spectrograms to
yeah so I was interested in just you know bringing up the the scream and just
kind of maxing it out so people could hear it because obviously when Chris played
the we just played the original you could barely hear anything in it and so
there was a lot of audio that was deep deep in the woods very low volume so I
basically just kind of enhanced that with a little bit of noise reduction some
compression and just some gain changes so it was really simple no no DSP or AI
processes on it at all I did send another clip to Jeff we'll take a look at it
later but I revisited that clip tonight and found a whole nother layer in
there that's pretty interesting so but let's hear David's version and take on
this all right so Jeff did you get did you get the the spectrograms did that
load down did you have to go into Google and get them I didn't get any spectrograms
no and Jeff I'm take note of that last clip because we're gonna definitely want
to revisit that again sure we got it here because that one's pretty insane but
there's more insane ones coming up guys right so so the file that I'm interested
in playing is 77 underscore crazy voices and singing in the woods SL and
Nero RVB all right that I pulled up here the best part is recording is these
guys keep on pulling different stuff out as we're going along and it's pretty
incredible that what you're finding I mean you never would imagine that this
would be a Northwest Connecticut ever well of course can you describe the
area real quick so the area is very would be its private property at the
beginning of the property is Larry's house my buddy that research would me
investigated whatever he wanted for all them years and in back of his house is
all private land and it's empty for I don't know I got a map for over what
did we come up with Dave a mile and over a mile until the there's the next
road over so it's just space and space and space and back of there and
there's a swamp out and back I mean we traveled back there for six years
pretty incredible everything that went on back there but is there is there
water cricks nearby others a creek that runs we have to cross the creek to get
in there from Larry's home we have to walk across the creek at any point did
you guys try to walk towards the sounds I would imagine you didn't I wouldn't
well that night we didn't hear those we had already left so this is an hour
we left these were hanging in the trees but we just air for the rock
toss and the knock yeah that's why you left the recorders you knew there was
an activity going on never in a million years that we think that I would I never
heard anything like this in Connecticut ever before so yeah first time all
right what's the approximate time those occurred so 11 30 12 1 o'clock all in
that range is what when it went down I think 1 o'clock is when it the the
strange trains to the voices the howling and the arguing started I think did
you look at Tristan and all your recordings did you ever have a time that you
felt they were more vocal is there kind of a peak well I mean like the
bumping lake course that was around 2 a.m. 2 a.m. yeah so that's why I asked
that question because I think 2 a.m. 3 a.m. is more of a sweet spot for those
kind of vocalizations but this is a this is a theory and a guess yeah and then
time of year Chris August late August okay this is all from all these
recordings are from late August okay August 26 I believe all right I got
apologized to Chris because he bugged me for months to get on it and I I
procrastinated so I'm the reason it's so late here
so no better late than ever after Adam I'm trying to learn all this I'm
trying to learn how to do the spectral layers I'm trying to learn you know I'm
trying to learn audio and David's helping me and as well it takes I mean it
really does take a team to be honest this shows what happens when you get a
team together yeah versus just depending on one person you know because you're
always getting fresh ears on it and it just it just makes the project more fun
so keep that in mind everybody you may be sitting on some gold mines because
you procrastinated or didn't want to take the time so all right you got
hours of audio I can understand yeah it's time to go through that it's I mean
you guys are just talking about six hours of audio and you know listening to
that like an hour of it yeah it's it's very time consuming I can only
imagine there's there's some gems you're sitting on that don't you don't know
about Tristan I do I I vote just a file as I've been listening to all of them
no yeah I imagine you're sitting on some diamonds I do want to mention like
in Chris's audio I was hearing stuff in the background like Tyler
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screens so that's what got me really interested yeah that's why I spent the
time listening to the three hours of it well let's play one more time and then
we're going to move on to the next clip Chris that you're introducing play the
book that you like yeah play play it again okay it's that good Chris yeah
wait till the next one is the content okay here we go
you know what gets me every time I hear it's that you guys
in there like in the middle that one guy just goes like he's the boss to
tell him what's to do is yeah I told Chris the first time I heard it I'm like
these guys sound like they're ready to brawl they're like they're ready they're
getting geared up for warfare or something I don't know what's going on back
there very cool all right what's next this is the one that David asked for here
we go
well could we do something can we that one is a little more subtle can we all meet
our mics go to the just meet your mic and let's play it again okay I can do it
everybody's hold on oh well then Jeff yeah why don't you do that in the future
well that's see that makes a huge difference Jeff so why don't you just plan on doing that yeah
because you guys hear that what I caught was that ping it does sound like a
sonar ping or what did we what instrument was that David a cloth
clave clave clave clave cloth what you say patato I say patino clavecloth
but it does sound like that it's really you hear that Chris oh yeah I hear it it's
like a sonar panger or a clavecloth Jeff there's a Jeff there's a clip that I
I shaved off the, the yells and screams,
and that pinging comes, it's,
clicks and pops and pinging.
It's the same name, but it says anomaly on it.
You wanna play that, that, that really enunciates
what you're talking about.
Yeah, there's, give me a second here.
Kathy's just, bird is going crazy.
All right, I'll mute everybody and put a little hood
on your bird with a little hair muffs.
Okay, here we go.
Wow, that's wild.
What the heck is going on there?
Yeah, what in the world?
It's a very,
almost like a rod, like a glass rod on a metal,
on a piece of metal sounds glass rod like.
The only thing I told David,
I said, the only thing I can think of,
is that when at our trading post,
we had a little miniature shovel and a rake there
that we would bury our gifts.
At the end, we were burying our gifts
under the ground, under stones, under sticks.
And I, we were getting, I had pictures on my fence.
I think I sent them to Jeff.
And they, we would come in that tupperware,
and then tupperware containers too.
And they'll be outside of the hole.
The tupperware container would be popped.
Everything would be gone.
The hole in the rocks would be right there next to it.
It was really good.
But we used the shovel and the rake.
There it is.
See, that's how, see where the stones are?
That's the hole.
And that's where we put the gifts in the tupperware.
And that's how we would come it,
which two and six inches from the hole,
tupperware of lid popped.
Everything inside gone.
And in the stones, there's another one.
See, look, that's how we would find it every single time.
That ain't a bear.
I'll tell you right now,
that ain't no raccoon doing that.
That's a big rock.
Yeah.
Have you seen any prints?
Any prints, though?
Oh, yeah.
I sent Dave.
I sent some Jeff prints, too.
No, I'm able to.
Ape just mentioned, maybe it's the sound of bones.
Is that possible, David?
I thought it was the rake cedar.
That's the 13 inch print we found.
I got, I tried casting it.
That's like in a spring.
So it was all wet.
I think I sent a picture of the casting, too, I think.
That's an interesting thought.
What?
Bones.
There's the cast.
Yeah, bones.
How long were you gifting that that site, Chris?
Six years.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jeff, I do have a video spectrogram, too,
that I sent.
I don't know if you saw that.
Let's see here.
They did love bone marrow.
I'll tell you that.
That was one of the things they really loved was the bones.
Since this is kind of a visual thing,
I think it looks like I just got audio from you.
Let's see here.
What's the name of the file?
Oh, gosh.
It's called, oh, gosh.
Let me look here.
Maybe it's in the, look, oh, gosh.
One, you said, me, we're called screen recording.
Yeah, yes, you should have screen recording in it.
OK, here we go.
Yep, here I got it.
Give me a second here.
And I don't found brand new stuff, too.
Yeah, let it, let it, yeah, there we go.
Oh yeah.
Get it.
Hold it.
What, what, what?
What?
What, what?
what, what?
Don't, don't, man.
Yeah.
I'll get that, please.
Don't, don't, man.
What, what, what?
Don't, don't, man.
Play it again.
That's pretty cool.
That was crazy.
What I'd like to say is that for the reviewers,
what you're listening to right now is just the pinging
that was in the other haunting track we just listened to.
Correct.
So the point is, David has the ability to have the software
where he can actually separate out my new sounds
from a diverse sound field.
Yeah, I just wonder what that is.
So distinct.
David, do you have other, I mean, have you,
have you had that kind of audio before?
People send that kind of audio.
No, it was only because Doug asked me,
which I didn't hear, and he did thank goodness.
He said, I can hear a pinging kind of sound.
And he kind of danced around an instrument.
I said, you made a clave.
He says, yeah, I think that's what I'm talking about.
I said, no, a clave.
A clave.
A clave.
Yeah, clave.
French.
But I didn't notice it.
It just spread out like a sonar pang reminded me of the sound
effect they used and voyage to the bottom of the sea.
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Percussive sound that seems to be not even connected, but it is.
It's connected to the screams somehow.
It's impossible that that sound is coming from just their mouth, their vocal track.
You know, it's a subjective thing.
Yeah, I suppose I could say sure, but I'm not an authority on that, so I...
So Brendan, Brendan just mentioned it sounds like echo location, I guess.
Yeah, on my personal too.
Yeah, on our pang zip.
I don't want to meet that.
If you guys don't mind, but now might be a good time to peel back the curtain a little
bit on some of the magic we do.
Jeff, if you want to play my clip, I'll just talk through it and the audience can kind
of see a little bit of what we do.
One that says audio editing to that one.
Yeah, yeah.
And just keep my mic open though, because I got to talk over it.
Yeah, but you can just manually turn it back on.
Hold on a second.
I got to.
And then you can just turn yours on Adam yourself.
Let's see here.
I got to...
I got to notice separately, because it's...
Adam used a different file format than everybody else.
So the backstory is Chris asked me to do a spectrogram on the sound that you first heard
tonight, the big scream one.
So I revisited the original audio on that.
And I heard some other things in it.
And I decided to bring this up.
So here is a spectrogram of the sound.
And you see the two light lines at the top there.
So go ahead and play it.
I'll talk over the top.
Everybody meet their mic.
Yeah.
So if you listen, you'll hear bugs.
Audio up.
Frank it, Jeff.
So what I'm doing here is I'm deleting the bugs.
So if it plays back here, is there audio on this clip, Jeff?
Yeah, it was.
I don't know what happened to it.
Hold on a second.
Let me try and restarting it.
Yeah.
So.
Might have been because I muted myself.
Hold on a second.
Yeah, don't just you can keep everyone's mics live.
This is just a tutorial.
But there is some cool stuff in it.
All right, let's try that again.
Here we go.
So there's a spectrogram.
And I'm not hearing anything.
Yeah, the audio just drops out.
All right, try and see if it'll play more audio.
I'm completely dropped out.
The audio just dropped out.
It could be my player.
I don't know.
An audio tutorial.
Let's get back to it.
But this is a spectrogram.
And this is me deleting the bugs and the candidates.
How do you say that?
Katie did.
Katie did.
Yeah.
And this is the screen that we heard earlier.
It's here.
And it's obviously no fun to just look at.
But this is how we do some of this surgical editing in the spectrogram.
And if we want to come back to this clip later in the show,
maybe it'll work again.
But yeah, I don't know what's going on.
The audio is just clipping out.
Yeah, without the audio, this doesn't make much sense.
Because what I heard was pretty interesting.
There's three distinct voices that are happening in this.
There's this screen that we heard earlier.
And then there's something happening in the middle there.
Right in this zone here.
And then there's a high pitch thing on the top.
And when you put them all together,
you could actually hear three different things voices happening at the same time.
So it'd be really great to hear this clip.
I can hear parts of it.
It comes in every 10 seconds.
I don't know what's going on.
Is it maybe you need a reboot Jeff possible?
That could very well be.
Why don't you try that?
All right.
You guys talk amongst yourself.
Sounds important.
Yeah.
I'll read them here.
Well, I just I just whipped that up today.
But that's kind of a little bit of the surgical editing that we can do now with the tools.
Yeah.
David's got some pretty advanced stuff.
It's almost like Adobe.
I mean, you're going in and racing it.
I like Photoshop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Photoshop for sound.
Yeah.
Very cool.
Do you want to share what the name of the program is?
That was spectral layers.
Spectral layers.
So there you go.
That answers.
Yeah.
So Adam, I was looking at the size of the edit that you do.
And I have the ability to do like 15 pixels.
Wow.
So that really sharpens up and gets to the point where I'm not adding any artifacts or taking away artifacts.
So that really help.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
When you can literally just draw a line and take out all the bugs, you know, in the background,
that like I did in that video.
So Eric had an important question, I guess.
He's probably kind of joking, but, um, but it's there's just right to remove.
Can you use the program or remove the vocals from Bob Dylan music?
Yes.
Yes.
You can.
That's a bad question.
You're going to have to run the instrument over.
Sorry.
Adam, is that program free or do you have to pay for it?
No, that's a paid program.
That's the same one David's talking about.
But it did come down in price.
David, it's not.
It's not only 10,000.
Yeah.
Even then I have the gray hair.
We had in the audio industry for a long time.
I remember I paid $1,000 for a single EQ plug-in back in the day.
For one EQ plug in that you could get for like in a bundle today for 29 bucks. Yeah, though, but David paid 800 bucks for his program. I think I paid two 300.
So yeah, yeah, unfortunately, that's a broken version. Yeah. Yeah.
I bought the $80 version on the the spectral layers and oh, there you go. Well, they got an 80 dollar version.
That's what I'm learning learning on. I'm sure there's the next level up is probably a little bit more intense. All right. I think Jeff is back, but if it yeah, if it doesn't work.
Yeah, I'm trying to get. Yeah, I think my computer doesn't like this file type.
Yeah, I don't even know what I say. You know, it's a quick time because I had to do a screen capture.
If you have it, you can share it on your screen and Jeff can just play your screen. I'm on a different computer. So let's see here. Let's try this again. Give me a second here.
Yeah, one second.
Adam got to be different with his different files.
Nobody has used quick time for 20 years.
That's part of the problem. All right. Let's try this.
Got nothing.
Oh, it was clipping out again.
Well, it does come in and out. The audio does.
We'll just let it play once.
Okay. So those are the bugs. And I'm just literally deleting them just like Photoshop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then you can see you can literally just get in and highlight one particular sound and it'll play just that sound.
All the bugs, all the noise and everything else is gone.
It's pretty amazing. So it's unfortunately the sound isn't working.
Well, that should be very educational for people.
Can you guys not hear it at all? I can hear it actually.
I don't hear anything. I can't hear it.
All right. Well, let's move on.
Sorry. Yeah. I don't know what that file. I just can't get it to work.
Okay.
Is the road and traffic part of the sound that you can take out to?
If you can see it, you can edit it.
Okay. Very cool.
There are overlapping frequencies, but generally things tend to have their own fingerprints.
And you can kind of see that a little bit.
And like David said, looking, looking at the sound instead of listening to it is a whole new talent you got to develop.
Eric right now is editing Steve Perry out of all his journey records.
Anyhow, okay, what do we got next?
Chris?
Yeah, the WN David, what did David send into?
I did send a couple of Tristan's vocalizations from bumping.
Sure. I get a few here.
Yeah. It might surprise Tristan.
But don't we have that we have the like talking and stuff we haven't even done yet of Chris's audio?
I just focused in on the singing. That's all that.
Yeah, Adam found that's what the clip that he's trying to play is the talking that he found.
Oh, that's the talking.
Yeah.
So you, I mean, I can jump off and go try to reformat and send it in.
Why don't you do that?
Can you send it in MP3?
That seems to be.
Well, if you save it in spectral layers as a, as a new file, you know, you, you can select MP3 as a.
I've already sent Chris the MP3.
Oh, okay.
So that's fine.
But I was talking about the tutorial.
That tutorial has the stuff in it.
Yeah, well, we, I just, we want to hear the sounds too.
All right, I'll get, I'll get them over to tutorial was great.
We, we, we get.
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
Let me try that.
I have a different program to run this file with.
Let me, let me see if you guys can hear this.
Hold on a second.
All right.
Let me know if you can hear this.
Yes, but it's not loud.
Did you hear anything there?
I don't know.
It's, it's not playing yet.
Okay.
So let's give up on this.
No, already.
Adam, somebody, see if you can get an MP3 to Jeff.
All right.
Of the, I'll jump off.
Sorry.
Yeah, I just that file format just isn't working with stream yard here.
All right.
Well, Adam's doing that.
Let's jump to Tristan.
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Sure.
Got some clips from him too.
Um, and Tristan kind of definitely started a whole wave of
research.
Thanks, Tristan.
Yes, you did.
Um, well, he recorded this very distinct humming,
which we became very aware of.
And as David, David continued to research it.
And kept running into other people.
And if you ran into that article,
the one that you did talk about the article that you.
Yeah.
Because of you taking an interest in this, Doug, it got.
And some airplay here, which in turn, people turned around and said,
I've heard that before and sent us audio.
So it became pretty much a big thing.
And then I received an audio from John Andrews,
who lives here in Washington state.
And he had been out camping with Paul Graves,
another investigator in my neck of the woods that I deal with quite a bit.
And they had recorded something coming into their camp and creating all kinds of a
kind of ruckus.
Um, so that was the main focus.
But later a couple of weeks later,
Paul called me and said, you know,
there was something that was interesting in there that I can't put my finger on,
but it was kind of a buzzing sound.
Would you want to listen to that?
And the buzzing thing tipped me off right away.
So I did listen to another portion of the tape.
And I did hear the, the humming.
I went back and told Paul that this is a thing.
And he Paul went back and.
There was a gentleman who since passed away in our field here that,
you still find old newspaper articles regarding Bigfoot.
His name is Scott McLean, and he found an article that Scott had found
that that was about a Mrs. Callfield from Harrison Springs in BC,
Canada.
And she went down to the river to wash her clothes.
And she heard what she thought was a hummingbird.
But when she looked up, she was, she saw a Sasquatch standing there,
making the hummingbird type sound.
So that kind of put everything all together that, you know,
we weren't chasing unicorns here that this is really,
I mean, we have a eyewitness.
And then I think there was another eyewitness.
I'm not sure who, but it became well known.
Well, but I want to jump in here real quick.
Yeah, because one of the things that's had development that's happened since then
is all of these scientific and medical articles have been published
about the health effects of humming.
Yes.
Because it kills bacteria.
It cleans your sinuses.
It sterilizes your lungs.
And on and on and on.
And it was kind of like ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Yeah.
Well, that would make sense for a creature to somehow know that.
Right.
It does a lot of things too with the brain.
I mean, there's just so many health benefits.
So definitely recommend you do some googling.
Anybody listening to this?
Are we going to play the clip that started everything that Tristan recorded?
No, I didn't send that in.
Oh, did you, did you, you did Tristan?
Didn't you?
Yeah, I sent you.
Yeah.
What's the name of the clip?
Big foot message with recorder.
Okay.
Yep.
I got that one ready.
Cool.
All right.
Get that pulled up.
Give me a one second here.
Please.
So Diane Followers says I've heard of people hearing that hummingbird sound and fluttering sound
before.
Yep.
Ready?
Ready?
Come on.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There you go.
I got it on this recorder right here.
It's putting in a plastic bag.
But I had to record off this recorder to get that audio because this doesn't have a USB
so I had to record on to another recorder with USB capabilities.
Yeah.
It was.
Okay.
So Diane mentioned, oh, wow.
It sounds like he's eating.
Yes.
You had left with peanut butter crackers.
Yeah.
Jar peanut butter and some peanut butter crackers on next to a stream.
And I had this recorder strap to a strap to a stump with a bungee cord.
And that's what I personally think what happens is it sees or senses the recorder and comes
over and messes messes with it.
And there's no, there's no claw marks or teeth marks on the recorder.
So when I picked it up, I didn't think anything messed with it.
But when I listened back to it, you know, let's go to here.
So it's eating and humming.
Yes.
It's obviously likes the flavor.
Now, here's somebody new that says a diesel dog says, I've experiences before I was getting
out of my vehicle in my car port and heard and felt a humming vibration.
That's exactly what it sounded like.
And you live a diesel dog in a wooded area where it could have been a big foot.
That's the question to you.
So yeah, big foot num num sounds.
And of course, Abe says he hums when he eats tacos.
I keep trying to click it, but I'm clicking the same time.
Oh, we're on clicking each other.
Go ahead.
I'll stop.
Okay.
You stop.
Where did?
Yeah.
Here we go.
There's Abe's coming to the day to make everybody laugh.
Ha, ha, ha.
It's so funny.
Thanks Abe.
I home like that when I eat hard boiled eggs.
And it says there are gorillas hum while eating too.
Anyhow, it just opened up so much information.
Yes.
And there were so many people.
In fact, we had guests.
We had one guest came on.
You remember that at the gift for a pincha?
Yeah, it was all night long.
Yeah, it was all night long.
I mean, it was driving them nuts.
Literally, it was affecting his behavior.
It was so bad.
Yeah, like purring.
Right.
So that's what we've kind of named it.
I think you named it the big foot per, David.
I've humbuzz per HP.
The HPP.
Yeah, there you go.
It's because I call it that because I've heard other people use those terms to explain what
they heard.
Some people say I heard a buzzing.
Some people say I heard a humming.
Yes.
And people have mentioned it.
Itches makes their ear itch.
Flutter.
Yeah.
Your flutter.
Flutter and itch.
Like a bug flew into it.
And people have other people have mentioned they've heard it out like farther away from them.
But their ear, your drum is vibrating.
Right.
Which indicates to me that that's maybe connected to, um, in percent.
And I'm sitting on, I believe, hours of it from up at cell growth.
Of this, you know, this, these weird homes that we recorded on several.
Same thing.
So, I mean, there's something to it.
So it was part about it all.
Is it all the same hurts level?
Yeah.
Do you want to talk about that, Chris?
40 hurts.
Um, that's when I found out about it a different way than these guys did.
I, we, uh, I was having an activity at my hummingbird feeder here with my wife and, uh,
one story short.
Uh, I started researching into the, the hummingbird flight.
You know, what, what, what, what, what were they vibrate at?
What, what's their frequency?
You know, what, what they, because that's what we're into.
And, uh, I came up with the 40 hurts and then that's when I told you about it.
And then you're like, Oh, I got to get David on the phone.
And then he called David.
And day I told David the story.
And then he's like, and then does like David tell Chris the story about Tristan.
And he tells me the whole story.
He goes, guess what?
Tristan's home hurts level was.
And I'm like 40 hurts.
He's like, you're right.
40 hurt and matched.
And there's recordings all across America that are matching that 40 hurts range.
And that's pretty incredible.
That is.
Yeah, but it's, it's amazing.
What?
Just a little communication can do in this, in this, uh,
and it needs a lot more, we need a lot more.
We need a lot more.
We need a lot more.
We need a lot more.
We need a lot more.
We need a lot more.
We need a lot more.
We need a lot more.
We need a people to stop trying to put others down for what they do.
And I mean, they've waste all their energy on trying to put others down.
Why don't they do your energy by working together and trying to solve some issues?
You know, they mean it's bigger at out.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Well, I like the fact that every time we play this, Doug, you get 20 or 30 messages and you
should hear this and some people actually haven't recorded and send it to me. So, yeah, there's
something going on with this phenomenon at this particular hertz. Yeah, no. Robert says,
I always wondered what sound would drop it with the tension. Flute drum beat or some type of whistle.
And Chris, you've had, you've experienced or had luck attracting them with sound.
Yeah, yeah, we actually called blasted 40 hertz vibration frequency at an area here in Connecticut
and we had three of something come in and start hauling rocks at us. It's on you.
You're using a 40 hertz tuning fork as I understand. In fact, I remember yelling at you.
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Chris's out sound blasting the 40 hertz. And it was like vibrating my fork. And I'm like,
what the hell is going on out there?
So anyhow, it does affect it. It does carry that night. We had a we had an orb show up at
snow grove like none other. There was like red orbs and big white orbs out on the lake. It was
incredible. Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of that weird whatever voice that came across the
the camera that night, whatever. I'll talk with you. Yeah. Yeah. I can play that. I have some of
the humming sounds too. We recorded up there that night. You're going to break another microphone.
Let's go for it. So it agrees it is 40 hertz kind of the magic number that we're looking for.
That's what I'm using. That's what I believe. I'm going to hold different area this year. And I'm
going to see if I can bring these guys in with the 40 hertz. See what I'm gonna buy one of those.
Here's some of the snow grove buzzing.
Well, up, up, up, up, up. Right. There we go.
I don't know.
Tell me that doesn't sound exactly like Kristen's.
Kristen, what do you think?
Can you hear it?
Yeah, can you hear it?
Yeah.
Is that 40 hertz, too?
I don't remember.
I wouldn't know that there's between 40 hertz and 400 hertz.
I was curious, you guys were talking about infrasound.
What's the range of infrasound?
Is that lower than 40 hertz?
Can these recorders pick infrasound off?
That's a debate.
It depends upon the spec of the maker for the microphone and for the recorder.
It's got to be both.
I had this discussion with Doug once before and he said, well,
manufacturers have been known to make equipment out of spec.
But to answer that question, no, we shouldn't be able to record it.
And you shouldn't be able to hear it that thus infrasound.
Which is why it laughs so hard when I watch the brown note episode.
The brown note, I remember that one.
They're standing for the speakers.
But for TV, it's dumb if you can't hear it.
We're playing infrasound.
But you can hear it plain as day.
I'm going to play that talking real quick that we recorded itself.
I saw it.
So that came across the speaker on one of our cameras that were very well hidden.
This happened after some rock throwing had in the cameras.
Which apparently, didn't you mention David?
Was it you that mentioned Shane?
Somebody mentioned Shane as experienced that too.
And even Cliff has pebbles or rocks being thrown at their camera.
Yeah, most definitely.
Things when they notice equipment, they'll try to sneak up on it and throw things at it.
And just try to get it to move.
I suppose.
Yeah.
It's an animal object.
So it's not going to move.
So is that a bigfoot saying I want to talk with you?
Well, it hasn't.
I can remember that night.
I can remember exactly where I was sitting, who I was looking at.
I can remember the whole situation.
Well, people don't realize that snow grove.
You are in the middle of nowhere.
If they're coming in, you're in trouble.
You're not.
You're not make.
We used to throw a gap.
We would put gas cans out in the boat and line the boats up.
In case we had to run out to the boats and get in the boat.
And that was your only chance of survival of stuff went down out there.
Because you've got nowhere to run.
Except down that dock.
And that's it.
Yeah.
And it's broken into that cabin quite violently.
Right.
A number of times now.
Last time we went out there, we found out a week before they broke into the cabin.
Or two weeks prior, they broke into the cabin again.
Yeah.
They even broke the windows.
Yeah.
That's, it's, it's scary.
And then, oh, yeah, then they fixed everything.
And then it pushed a tree down.
Yeah, tree on top of the cabin.
As if to say, you know, we don't want you here.
And that.
Did they have cameras outside so you could see what's coming.
No, there's no, there's no, there's no way to do that.
We, we brought our own stuff up there.
We brought.
Starlink Adam was smart enough to bring up Starlink.
And then we hooked up Wi-Fi cameras.
Oh, okay.
So we had live monitoring, which was really cool in the middle of nowhere.
Right.
All of us would lay in bed at night with our phones on, checking all the cameras around the cabin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pretty cool.
100 attack.
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
And then, um, but there was a lot of orb activity too.
So it, it just got crazy.
And then was it the talking time where you guys had the thunder knock?
There was, that was the first trip.
First trip.
First trip was the thunder knock.
Correct.
Yeah.
First trip was the thunder knock yet.
Yeah, which was, um, I don't know if you want to tell that story.
Um, and then I want to get back into some of the Tristan's audio.
Adam, I got Adam's video again too.
We can try it.
Oh, well, tell the story real quick.
Go ahead, Chris, about the thunder.
All right.
So we were packed up.
We were packed up ready to go.
Was the last day we were going to be there.
The sun finally come.
I was raining all week.
I mean, we fished in the rain.
We did whatever we could.
And everything's out on the dock.
All our stuff.
And we're just sitting there.
And I'm with our friend,
but, uh, Hanline's on my right hand side.
And Adam's down on the dock.
And we're just waiting for the, the plane show up.
And all of a sudden, out of nowhere comes this knock.
And I mean, it's a lot.
It's like a bit explosion in the woods.
Like, God, girl.
Boom.
And we felt.
And on our chest, it hit us three times.
Boom.
Boom.
When me and Bud look at each other,
we don't know.
We don't even say, did we hear that?
We both said, did you feel that at the same time?
You feel that.
It was like the way, if you're sitting in the ocean,
and the waves were hitting you in the chest,
you heard it three times.
Boom.
Boom.
Boom.
And then Adam's down on the dock.
And he heard, uh, reply from the other side of the lake.
I'm an open knock.
But then the lady came and she landed the float plane
and doing all her little things that she has to do.
Check the propane.
Thanks.
And all of a sudden, when she goes towards the house,
right in back of the house,
there's another thunder knocked.
It's like,
Oh.
And we're like,
someone's got to go up there with her.
She doesn't even know what's going on.
And what's going on up there?
And she's just doing her own little thing.
And then it was the crazy experience.
And we got in a float plane and left.
And then a little day, a little day short.
Was that the same day that you had pine cones thrown at you guys?
Yeah.
While drinking coffee on the back porch, it was ultimate.
That was earlier sitting on the back.
And you can not too many people can say that.
They're on the back peaches.
Back porch, the snow grove lake.
With their cups of coffee, drinking coffee and pine cones coming out
from over the outhouse as.
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So Doug, your recording at snow grove of the voice is so interesting to me
because it sounds like it's talking.
I mean, we can all agree that we're hearing is communication,
language of some sort, but it's not English as we know it.
I don't know if if anybody else of any other language or dialect
has heard something like that or it's in their language,
they could tell us what it was that it was actually saying.
Yeah, because you think it's like a saw switch.
I saw switch it.
Yeah.
You know, that's that's what I hear.
But don't go by what I hear because everybody has their bias.
And that's just a, you know, you think you hear something.
Like I said before, the sound comes into your ears,
but your mind tells you what you hear.
And so we all have been filtered.
We've proven that with that green needle.
There's that audio that you play it.
And if you read green needle, you hear green needle.
If you read the other statement, you hear that.
And it's the brain is very weak that way.
The most fascinating thing about your audio was when I slowed it down.
So that you could hear the nuances and everything.
And by the time I slowed it down, I think it was like three times.
And you can slow things down without changing the tonality, if you will.
Yeah.
So it doesn't sound like outer spacey kind of thing.
But I heard something completely different from what I hear at normal speed.
So if you go back to what Scott Nelson says that they speak at two,
two and a half times faster than we typically do in our,
our normal language situation.
So I just love that, that audio.
He did it.
Yes.
I haven't told you more about that audio,
but the day after that we, we captured that coming across the wise cameras.
Yes.
Yeah.
And it scans radio frequencies.
So I was using that scanner to scan radio frequencies in every band,
AM and FM, just to prove the fact there was no radio interference
or any other signal kind of there.
There's no full service up there.
Yeah.
And if it had come across the wise, it would have,
the wise is a security company that is founded on security.
So having an audio breach would be a huge breach of security protocols for the company.
And the other thing is, is the audio and the video are mucks together.
They, they come as one channel.
And in the MP4 stream.
And the point is, is that the video that we saw that night,
when we were listening to this, the video was fine.
The video feed was perfectly fine and was uninterrupted.
So if there was some sort of hacker interruption from the server,
it would have messed up the video as well.
So that, that pretty good audio clip came from the microphone on that camera.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
And I've always known there are no radio waves up there.
There's no static.
You can bring your AM radio, turn it on.
There's no static.
You can go through every channel.
FM, no static.
Nothing.
That's incredible.
Adam, your white noise.
Yeah.
Help.
So.
Okay.
So what's next in audio?
And do we have more of stuff we want to play from Tristan?
Yeah.
Tristan.
Did we have Adam?
We got Adam's clip now.
Yeah, let's try it.
Let's try it out.
Let's do the video first.
Let's see if this works.
Please crank it.
View this.
I'm not hearing it.
I'm hearing something.
Like a small way.
Play it.
Can you guys hear anything?
Do you have a volume control, Jeff?
Can you crank it?
Yeah, I can hear it playing his day here, but it's because it's it's a it's a regular MP4
now.
No, it's not.
It's a it's a dot M will defile.
No.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
Yeah.
Got the MLV files.
It's got Adam.
I'm sticking on.
All right.
Play the MP3.
That'll work.
Well, it's not.
Let's see here.
I sent that separately.
But okay.
So the screen that Doug.
Okay.
The screen that we heard first.
That really loud scream.
I brought that up again today.
And I heard voices over the top of it.
Yes.
Yes.
More people in the background.
And that's what the layer of thing was on the screen.
Well, that's why we're going to want to listen to this.
Yeah.
So go ahead and play the audio now.
But minutes, Jeff.
Okay.
I got I got that.
Give me a second here.
Okay.
All right.
Minus.
Is it a different email?
All right.
So what.
What the audience should listen for is.
Like.
Woo.
As the base thing.
But over the top of it.
What were they saying?
Chris.
I forgot something like.
Are they here?
Here they come already.
It sounds almost English, but it's not.
Yeah.
Go ahead and mute us, Jeff.
Please.
Like caveman.
Stuff.
Okay.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Am I doing that right?
Yes.
Um I do, it does.
You know, you can't hear that.
No, mute us.
Yeah we can hear it.
Okay, I gotta mute everybody independently.
Hold on a second.
Isn't that okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we hear it great.
Okay, I have to go through and meet everybody independently.
All right.
Oh, what I'm hearing in that clip is like I said,
the baseline of whoo, but then there's something
in the background back, watch out, watch out.
And the little voice and then there's even something
over the top that's like doing, oh, so there's like
three things going on and it's crazy.
Who needs big foot when you got an animal, didn't I, man?
You did it pretty well.
That was pretty good at it.
Yeah, it was really good.
Seriously, that was pretty good.
Oh, all these recordings that we just listened to
then just one night as all started from just that one
little faint far away capture.
And now this is what can happen when like you said,
when people can work together, get it in the right hands,
you know, talk about it, live it and, you know,
give each other's opinions and then learn and learn
how to from them.
And I think that this is where it goes.
I mean, it just keeps on getting better and better
as the weeks go along.
And it's it's incredible.
Can you play that again, Jeff?
No, that we had Adams.
Sure, I'll mute everybody here.
Hold on a second.
Yeah, I hear what Adam's talking about.
There's definitely at least two or three layers to that.
Yeah, that's a great word.
Yeah, you can definitely hear like a younger one.
Yeah, the very last scream I definitely hear Wahoo.
Yeah, yeah, which is which is a thing that I'm following
all across North America.
Wahoo or Yahoo.
Yahoo, that's funny because that is a name for these creatures.
Yahoo, Yahoo, Yahoo, Yahoo, Yahoo, Yahoo, Yahoo, I haven't even
seen it.
Sorry, I've been calling Yahoo before, so I had to do that.
Who recorded?
OK, now that we know that Jeff, you don't have to mute us.
Just play it.
I want to have the, yeah, I want to hear the Yahoo.
Yahoo.
Yeah, I heard it that time.
Yeah.
It's like a smaller child.
Yeah, a child going, Yahoo, Yahoo.
So the cool part about this is we always thought there was three there.
we would always find three prints.
And when David told me that when he was in the spectral layers
and he found three different individuals,
I was like, oh, David, thank you.
Because I heard Adam.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm just saying that it was just,
it was just a breath of fresh air to know that, you know,
after six years of watching and learning
and just listening and focusing on this area
and figuring out there was three, now to have proof
of evidence of something there is really great.
That's what I'm most excited about.
It's just, you know, it helps put more evidence
into the pool of their existence.
And of course, we're not seeing what's making these noises,
but you put this story together of the knacks
and the rock throes.
And when we wrap the area, the recorder even has one
running up to the recorder.
We have a bunch of recordings and it's just,
I wouldn't say it's running up to the recorder,
but it's definitely creeping up to the recorder.
Oh, yeah, you know, but it's bipedal.
You can tell it's bipedal, trunk, trunk, trunk, trunk.
Right after we leave.
So, do we have any more sounds from Chris's?
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Yeah, which one do you want to play, Chris?
Why worry?
Just play anything.
He can tell us what it is after we play it.
Let's do it in reverse.
I think both are the ones I left are David's.
Okay, I'll just play it.
I'll just play everything that Chris sent me here.
Chris's audio, but David cleaned it up.
Go ahead.
Okay.
What a prong one.
I think it's saying who's coming, doesn't say who's coming, who's coming, who's coming,
or are mics muted on that?
No.
Oh, let's do it.
Do that again though with our mics muted.
Okay, hold on.
You pick up so much more detail.
There's a lot of subtle sounds in this.
That's spooky. He's meant. Yeah, that is. It's definitely more than one voice. Good
job. Yeah, it sounded like there was a whole bunch of them back in the woods having
a party or something. Yeah, good job guys. No, it's under the signature like a fundamental
like David that you look for for all these. Is there like a magic kind of fundamental
that you see? Well, usually I'm just wondering is it from a coyote or a wolf, for example?
Like, yeah, that's the domain key. I'd have to spend about 15 minutes to explain that,
you're right. I identify visually that there's an anomaly in the way that the first harmonic
looks like it's the main fundamental. And when you configure out that it isn't, which is a
math process, you can say that isn't right. Humans can, but rarely do have this situation
where their main fundamental slips into the first harmonic. But it seems to be prevalent in
what we call suspect vocalizations like we suspect that it could be a sask watch. It seems like
that's the predominant thing that they will, that their main fundamental will slide into the
first harmonic. Like I said, I could spend 15, 20 minutes trying to explain it and everybody's
eyes would cross and the show will go all the hell, Doug. Okay, what else do we have?
I sent a couple in of tristins from bumping lake. You see anything there, Jeff, that's got bumping.
Let's see here. Nothing that says bumping that I'm seeing. Got chatter singing.
We could play the, we could play the WC chatter. That's something I recorded in Grace Harbor
that kind of goes along the line of the singing and just reinforces that there seems to be a
specific yell while they're, they will hold a note a little longer. And it does, in fact, sound
like maybe they're singing it. Okay. I'll mute everybody here. I got to click everybody separate,
give me a second.
That's a good one. Yeah, there's, there's two more I think with that same title.
Well, that was the five times, that was the five time loop. Okay, there's another one here
a whole lot of seconds. Jeff's got his work cut out for him tonight. Yeah, so it's all good,
just a little bit of doing good, Jeff. Yeah. All right, here we go.
Yeah.
By upside one too.
I like that. They're, they're very haunting. And the scary part is when you're out in the woods
alone at night and you hear this stuff real and you're like, what was that? So yeah,
you sure there isn't anything that has bumping lake in it. Let's see here.
Because it would be, yeah, it's under, okay, I had a, I had a different folder for Christian. Yes,
I do. Okay, all right. I was looking at your folder. All right, I can try, I'm trying to keep
everybody's file separate here. Got a lot. Yeah. This is a, okay, this is a bit of a longer one.
I'll mute everybody and let this one play. All right.
Yeah.
You can get married later.
Two a.m. in the morning for about 30 minutes.
Well, that's amazing.
And Adam was just talking about hearing that person that's the loudest thing I've ever heard.
It's like being out of concert.
And it was pretty shocking and creepy and scary but beautiful at the same time to listen to.
And that was recorded on a taskam on my mom's truck.
You know, it's just me and my mother in a tent at California camp at Fumpy Lake.
It went on that happened around 2 a.m. in the morning.
And I just sat in my tent and listened to it.
I was kind of afraid to walk outside my tent.
But again, it was actually kind of beautiful to listen to.
Yeah.
A lot of the thing again, loudest thing I've ever heard.
I don't know.
Well, that that clip was kind of an amplified clip.
Taked a death for his search for sob a documentary.
But yeah, the volume, that kind of volume is exactly what I was hearing.
And it was bouncing off the, it was bouncing off the mountains around us too.
And I think it kind of amplified some of the sounds.
But yeah, Tristan, are you aware that I've heard this live twice at bumping?
No, once I recorded it.
And the very first time I heard it was on an expedition in 2006.
It was before my recording days.
But it was one of the vocalizations that made me go, damn, I got to start recording.
Yeah, for sure.
And that's something to like, you know, like, you don't really expect this to happen.
Like, I'm glad I put a recorder out, but it's like, you know, you have no idea that that thing's just going to happen.
You know, while you're in your tent.
So it's good to be prepared.
It's good to have something running.
Because you just never know.
It's very unexpected.
Did you guys notice the chanting and the two recordings, one from here and one from Tristan?
Is that?
It's almost like they're doing some kind of a ritual type deal.
Like it's a celebration or a thing.
That's kind of what we've, the conclusion that we've come to over the years.
I think Doug, you were the one that put it up first and Tristan.
I think you could also be mating behavior possibly.
To be prepared to be something mournful.
What month?
Tristan, what month do you remember?
Yeah, that was July, 2018, 2020.
Okay.
It was August, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mine was August as well.
Patterson was in July, right?
It was October.
Yeah.
October 1967.
Okay.
Interesting comment here by diesel dog.
I've heard the recordings that he or she's talking about.
Recordings of the sounds that the planets give off and it does kind of sound like that.
It's pretty wild.
Yeah.
You guys heard that before you know I'm talking about it.
Yeah, I think so.
It's pretty cool.
But keep in mind that those planets are shifted into the human hearing range.
True.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But still, I mean, it's still kind of a similar.
Yeah.
It's very similar.
Yeah.
I want to thank Noel.
Yeah.
Welcome aboard.
Thank you.
For becoming a member.
Okay.
What else we got?
I got more clips here.
I sent some more singing clips.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter.
They're all amazing.
David.
Here's the one from that woman in North Carolina.
Did you send me those?
I believe so.
Yes.
One of them is Julie's.
Julie ranch.
Here's one.
It's called singing five times loop.
Let's hear this one.
That's a not who.
So that was similar to what.
We heard up at snow only it went through far more octaves.
Oh, yeah.
It went on for much longer.
I mean, we listened to it for, you know, 20, 30 minutes.
And it was beautiful.
So I have heard this live except this singing that we heard came from one individual.
And it was funny because my son was with and he now has got a PhD in sound.
Oh.
That's right.
And effected him, I think.
You think that went in and effect on him to get his PhD in the audio and sound to become
a sound research scientist.
So, yeah.
All right.
Here's another one called this is the clip called hey, he all or hey, oh, he.
So.
That's a good, that's cool.
It's really cool.
Yeah.
Do you know what coyote that does that?
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Not me.
I know.
Totally.
All right, here's another one.
That's a person that was talking over it over it.
So if you were wondering.
What that other voice was.
So I was concentrating on the singing, but there was.
I think it was around a campfire.
Somebody was.
Chattering.
Talk.
Is there a train like a train?
Yeah, that's another thing that in the areas that I've done investigation with people that have recorded.
I think it's just like a train coming through.
I think it's just like a train coming through.
It's like a train coming through overnight in areas where they have trains coming through.
You can almost predict that there will be a upheaval in the woods.
When you first hear the distant thunder of a train coming.
It's like there, it's a warning system like get the heck off the tracks or.
I've had a lot of vocalizations happen after I can hear a train coming.
I'm just going to keep playing these ones from David. These are great clips.
Yeah, please.
All right, this one here is called, who is singing five times loop?
So females on it.
Wow.
Can you mute our mic so we can really get our high clarity?
Here I'll play it again.
All right, I'm going to leave everybody muted and I'll play another singing one here.
All right, got one. I think I have one more here that I haven't played yet.
Where is it? This one here, I think.
I'm sorry if I won again.
Wow. Those are amazing.
Yeah, you just, you just wonder someday it hasn't happened yet.
Someday I hope and praise somebody gets a video with with the the ask our camera of a big
like that would be could you imagine that would be really cool.
We got to get more of those cameras out there for people to get a hold of for sure.
Yeah, we never know what's going to happen.
I mean, just one day we might wake up and somebody will have the magic, you know, perfect storm video.
Yeah, but nobody has recorded, you know, wood knocking.
I don't believe or any vocalizations.
One of the problems is, of course, they do it at night.
You so often, although I have heard screams, broad daylight, that old wood knocks.
Yeah, and wood knocks that were very, very close to me.
That were not, you know, coolers or foxes.
I mean, it was like a shake your old body.
You know, it came from something very, very big.
Do we want to talk about the tech involved in any of this?
Sure, yeah, yeah, please.
I think we had some questions from some of the viewers there.
I know that I used task cam before and then Doug hit me to zoom.
And my task cam basically kept timing out on me.
So I did switch to the zoom and I did like it a lot better.
My favorite new audio recorder is the zoom with the 360.
The four microphones, yeah, it's ambassonic is what they call it.
Ambassonic mic.
Yeah, that's my favorite mic to use.
And probably a bit much for a regular user, do you think?
Or do you think I just, you know, a total neophyte couldn't do it?
Totally if I can use it, I'll just turn it on and hit record.
Oh, okay.
The problem is it's pricey.
It's like $300 mic.
I know people don't want to run out and run out and buy an ambassonic mic like that.
My trick, just for the viewers, there you go.
Perfect.
Instead of putting the double A batteries in the bottom of the sucker,
I hook it up to a big power bank that you use to charge your cell phone.
And that sucker will easily go all night if not all day.
You know, so with a nice 24 hour, yeah, so that's the zoom 360.
It's the 360 degree sound.
Yeah.
So that's one of my new favorites.
Yeah, the other thing, although I just have a whole bunch of the zoom H ones.
Yeah.
Because solid, rock solid, they are rock solid.
And you can, you can still triangulate if you put enough of them, you know, out.
But at least get, yeah, zoom recorders are really good.
Chris, I don't think you have a zoomer.
You use something else.
I use them.
If I have the zoom 360.
Oh, you do.
And yeah.
What did you record your last round of sound?
The zoom H one.
The zoom H one.
The H one.
Okay.
Strap switch tree.
And that's facing the opposite way too.
Yeah.
A lot of people, um, tons of people think they should get parabolic.
And I was telling them no because you have to have that thing pointed exactly to the source of the sound.
Yeah.
Or you're just going to do yourself far more harm than good.
You have a 90 degree window.
Yeah.
Like it's fine to have one with you.
Like if you can then you hear something and now you can point it and keep pointing it until it gets louder.
Fine.
But not to leave one in the woods or or less, you know the direction of your sound.
A parabolic or hurt you.
Not not help you.
One of my best experiences was, um, when I had a bionic dish pointed into the woods where I was a suspecting activity and something happened behind it.
And it was attacking a raccoon.
And it sounded like a denine caterpillar coming through the woods crashing and breaking branches and all hell was breaking loose.
And you can hear the squeak of the raccoon.
But what was attacking the raccoon, David?
Oh, I think a Sasquatch was a tell.
Oh, I got you.
Yeah.
Which is why we were in the rock pit.
My wife had seen one previous, the previous week in that very rock pit.
A raccoon or a bigfoot?
Bigfoot.
Okay.
Difference.
Anyway, to your point about pointing the direction, the recording does not do justice to what it was live.
Yeah, I mean, you can hear it swaying sticks and knocking on trees to get the raccoon out of the tree and that it was hiding it.
But it was nothing like what I heard live, nothing.
And Tristan, what do you use?
And have you changed up what you're using?
I'm using test cam.
I'm still using my old one.
It was a 095.
I think that was the original model number.
And then there's like a new one that I just got recently that has like two microphones on top like this.
Like two prong ones where you can kind of, you know, you can kind of like.
Move them around a little bit, like trying to, you know, directional a little bit.
Yeah.
But I was going to say the problem with those in my opinion is that they only run for like eight to 10 hours a night, like on one single battery.
Most of the taskcams will use the battery banks as well now.
Yeah.
That's the other thing too.
I got to start putting a battery bank on those things to make them run longer.
Yeah.
Do you think the zoom is better than a task cam?
The taskcams are great recording company.
They've been around for 40 years.
I love them, but I don't.
There's the problem with our bigfoot stuff is there's nothing out there exactly what we need.
And I'm designing that right now.
And I might have some fun news on that in the future.
But yeah, high quality task camp stuff.
But the problem is a lot of them aren't programmable.
You can't tell them to start recording at sundown and stop recording at sun up and that kind of stuff.
They're very hard on the batteries sometimes.
And they're really meant for like recording speech or recording a concert that you go to or something like that.
They're not designed to be put out in the woods overnight.
You know, right.
Yeah.
So should Tristan get a zoom?
Is that what you're saying?
The ambassonic mic is amazing.
Chris hit me to the ambassonic one.
And I really like it.
Chris has got every high tech.
I got to tell people.
Yeah.
He has every high tech piece of equipment that you can ever dream of.
Yeah, and it took me a lot of years to strap one of them to a tree and leave and catch the best seven.
I got every gadget in the book.
You do.
I have to.
I really give you a lot of credit for that.
You really invested your money.
Yeah.
I have traveled.
I mean, I, I'm definitely dedicated to the subject.
I'd say that's without a doubt.
Even when I'm amazed by somebody even boy boy.
Guys, I'm just out looking for answers.
I'm just like anybody else.
I'm looking.
Yeah.
Chris and I were talking the other day.
We need, we need fewer armchair researchers and more people out in the woods.
Yeah.
Well, we're going to be busy this summer, Adam.
You know that, right?
I need to work a lot less.
I need a job where I don't need to work quite so much.
I'm going to be able to feel good guys.
Yeah.
I'm with you.
I need one of those myself.
Oh, I work too much.
I can't get out of work.
That's my normal one.
That's what I'm using.
Cool.
Got you.
Zero seven X.
That's a task camp.
Yeah.
It's a task camp.
Yeah.
That looks like a good unit.
Yeah.
No, no one that I was using doesn't have like these at the top or, you know,
they could be more directional.
Yeah.
You kind of more stationary.
So it's kind of nice.
Yeah.
Well, it looks like a nice unit.
I just like to add one more thing about the recordings that we captured.
I played them.
I had my, my friend is sick right now.
And I picked up a couple of my friends to go visit on the other night.
And he brought a friend along that I never met in his name was Mark.
And my body's like, play me those sounds.
You were telling me about play me.
So I played them the sound from the car.
And the next day he calls me up.
He's like, dude, do you know who Mark is?
And I'm like, no, I never met him until last night.
He goes, Mark is a trapper for the state of Connecticut.
Oh, wow.
He is in the forests all the time.
He goes for the coyotes, all the problem animals.
He does all the tracking for the numbers and all that.
He told me after he dropped you off after I dropped them off.
He says, I don't know what that guy was playing on his recorder on his thing.
But I have never, ever heard that in the forest of Connecticut ever.
And he's been made living in the state of Connecticut in the forest, trapping his whole life.
So I thought that was pretty interesting.
Yeah, you hear these hunters that say, I've been out there for 30 years.
I haven't seen or heard anything.
I mean, it's not going to happen to everybody.
No, no.
So I thought it was cool that he'd never, ever heard of.
And he wasn't a doubter after he heard.
He goes, he knows something was making those noises as well.
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So, great.
Yeah.
My problem is, you know, we're a bunch of audio geeks listening to sounds here tonight.
But what does this do for the research?
I mean, like, how can we prove these sounds are what we say they are, you know,
that they were captured in the woods and not just reporting somebody's far away.
I do think that there's some new audio spectrogram type technology that's coming.
It's going to be AI power that's going to be really advanced.
It's also going to paint 3D images, three dimensional images.
Of audio.
This is all coming.
I don't think it's going to be long, maybe a year.
And I think that there's going to be signatures that are going to be so distinct that maybe it will nudge it, you know.
And I was, I can't, I never say proof, but I definitely think if he can raise the bar and go holy crap,
it's going to be a game changer.
It's coming.
Yeah.
You're right.
I like white R3D mapping that you can do now like with the footprints.
Yeah, things like that.
Basically, it'll paint a 3D picture.
Yeah.
And that's like I said,
AI is going to change a lot of stuff for bigfoot research.
And although a lot of people hate it and put it down.
Oh, it's going to help us.
Doug, what?
Speaking of AI and speaking of audio and speaking of snowgrove, are you ready for this?
Yes, please.
My daughter called me.
She's getting married.
She wanted a website.
So I jumped on and I learned a little bit of coding.
And that got me, that got me going.
My brain's turning.
And I was like, I got all that snowgrove audio that we haven't gone through yet.
I know.
And it's hard because of all the way the clips are recorded.
I wrote a program last week in one day that will generate, you know,
gather all those wise clips.
It'll put them all together.
And I can export single blocks of audio now.
So going through the wise audio from those snowgrove recorders,
it's doable thing now.
Please, please, please.
I know we're sitting on some gold mines in there too.
So Adam, can you teach it what to look for?
I haven't gotten that far yet, but it was a,
what I used to do was drag the clips together into known programs like Final Cutter Pro Tools.
And it took hours just to make, you know,
because everything wants to be high resolution background processing.
But the AI was able to do in under five minutes,
I can join five days of audio together into one clip.
And it's so fast and it's so, it's so easy now that going through that audio is going to be a breeze now.
So the audio software that I use likes smaller clips.
Yeah.
Typically anything less than 150 megabyte,
which is about a half an hour.
So the recorder that I use rotates the file every 30 minutes.
So that I, over a 12 hour period,
I'll have 20 or 25 files that I can review.
I can review a 30 minute file in about five minutes.
If there's nothing of significance on it.
But what I'm looking for are the unknown signatures.
I'm not looking, I look at signatures.
Oh, yeah, I know what that is.
That's a, you know, bird. That's a crow.
That's a frog.
That's a dog.
You know, I'm looking for signatures that,
wait a minute, that's a little weird.
And then then I'll stop it.
I'll look at it.
And if it's of interest, I could spend another 30, 40 minutes,
just on that little thing.
But where I'm looking for AI to facilitate what I do is to go,
hey, that signature is weird compared to the environment.
Right.
Look at that.
I think that's coming so quick.
It's, I've just, even me personally working with AI.
I've noticed about every two weeks.
It's like mind blowing.
It keeps getting better and better and better and better.
Yeah.
Do you think you can have it?
You think you can have it where maybe you can put,
put in the harmonic or the fundamental.
Right.
Look for the missing fundamental.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yes.
Right.
Interesting.
I think the cryptid world is going to benefit.
It's not going to be all harm.
You know, you know, obviously, you know,
there's going to be some tools that are going to be, like,
unreal for us to use.
Forensics.
Forensics.
Forensics is going to be amazing.
The next 10 years for the cryptid world is going to be,
I think, off the charts.
The other thing it's going to be amazing that AI is doing is,
it is really good at sorting high volumes of genetic data.
Yeah.
That's going to help this, this mystery.
So I think, I think it's going to be,
yeah.
That's going to help this, this mystery.
So I think, I think we're going to take a quantum leap soon.
And the big foot mystery, I think the bar is going to raise.
I think it's going to open a lot of eyes.
Um, and like, okay, like your, your home per thing,
Tristan, that started with you.
Yeah.
I think it's really interesting because that's a sound that people
can't say, oh, that's a cougar.
That's a coyote.
That's a, you know, it's so unique.
Um, and it's things like that, these unique things,
like maybe this, this, um, clav or clave sound,
the pain could end up being something that cannot be attributed
to any other known North American animal.
So that's why I, you know, I just kind of zone,
I, I, I zero in on those sounds and go,
Oh, okay, that's different.
I wonder if that's seen.
I wonder if that pain is in other recordings.
Exactly.
By us talking about the pain.
People will be looking for it will be gone.
Hey, exactly.
Yeah.
I heard a ping in my gun and then they go back and look
and they next seen on their son and David,
uh, they're recording in Alabama.
The, the, um, there's a gentleman that has a museum and,
um,
uh, lost Carlos or San Jose or somewhere in that neighborhood.
Um, that has mentioned a, uh, uh, a sighting that he had.
And he had heard something.
And what he described it as is a sonar ping.
Okay.
So let's name this officially right now.
Call it what the Sasquatch ping.
Yeah.
So let's name it now.
I don't know if anybody has heard that.
Go review your tapes.
If you think, oh, yeah.
Deja Vu, I remember, you know, whatever.
It's important.
Yeah.
Because it's those kinds of sounds that could change this whole,
uh, mystery.
You heard it here first.
Yeah.
It's like an echolocation that makes sense.
Yeah.
It could be.
We don't know what we're dealing with.
Yeah.
These things obviously, um,
really amazing, probably very natural tools that they use to survive
and hunt and stay safe and steer clear of us.
Well, I do know that if the Ohio howl is, is, is a thing,
which I think it is.
Um, I heard a Ohio howl type, um, come from a ridge top.
It was maybe a half a mile or so from my.
Oh, okay.
Well, let's, okay.
Back the truck up.
Okay.
Let Ohio howl struck me.
Always is kind of a sonari like scream.
Like it was so ultra high pitched.
And then the Tahoe screams.
The Tahoe screams.
Yeah.
Same thing.
It's like almost like a sonic pinging.
It's really interesting.
Well, what I was alluding to was that I heard this vocalization
in the first half a mile away on one ridge,
and then another mile away.
Or so I figure looking on Google Earth.
One answered.
Uh, the same type of vocalization.
So they do operate.
Together, but you know, they can communicate over miles.
Yeah.
So.
I think that.
The sonar pying if we want to call it that could be an echo location scenario.
So another way that they communicate.
Yeah.
The stuff just needs to be looked at harder and talked about separated out.
So there you go.
What are those?
And Chris's recordings.
There you go.
Yeah.
No.
What state was that recorded in again?
Connecticut.
Connecticut sonar.
Yeah.
So flat rock.
I would say that's the best.
I've ever heard Chris of that pain sound.
So flat rock asked what about the pop or bubble popping sound?
Yeah.
Did it sound like this?
I was taught that by something in the field.
Something did a wood knock behind me.
And I did my wood knock that I do,
which is clapping my hands in front of my face or my mouth to create a popping sound.
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We got every quarter to two, David,
or bringing my team up around this corner.
I said, right around this corner right here is where they do that mouth pop and thing.
We went around the corner.
I did mine.
I went and I told the recorder.
That's me doing the...
Now, I'll sudden 10 steps later.
I'll sudden right and back.
Let's...
Come to the box.
It's cool.
Yeah.
Very cool.
Very cool.
Do we have any more sounds or is that it?
I think we've done.
I'm done.
Am I...
I think that's everything.
All right.
Well, let's wrap it up.
Stay put, everybody.
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Well, thank you guys.
I actually felt like we accomplished something.
Yeah, that was fine.
I want to play that, you know, the sound I...
the Chris' recording, I loved.
I want to play that.
And then after that plays, you can go to our...
Which one?
The one I said of Chris'...
I said, remember that one, because I want to play it later, you know.
Shoot.
We got lost in this.
Hey, man.
Hey, man.
I got a clip to keep track of here.
Which one was it called?
It was the first one.
It was the first clip he played, of course.
Oh, man.
There's a...
I have a ton of them here.
I don't know which one it was.
Oh, well.
Okay.
I tried.
Anybody remember the title of the one?
What are you talking about?
I don't know which one he's talking about.
One of the bind that David did.
I think it's the...
It's got a lot of screaming in it.
It's the August 3th one.
The one that's got rvb at the end of it.
Okay, that one.
Okay.
So I'll get me for you.
Play it, though.
I want to thank all of you guys for taking your Sunday night and spending it with us.
Thank you, Adam.
great tech breakdown and all the great stuff you do and thank you Tristan for all your contributions
and thank you Chris for letting us premiere your sounds because they are amazing and I think we've
got a new you know something new that's come out of it and that's the ping. Cool. We're called
that we're going to call it the 900 ping. Yeah. I'd call it the Winchester ping. The Winchester ping
okay. All right. Thanks. Yeah. I think this is the right one. I'll just play this and we'll
sign out. All right. Sounds good. But thanks everybody. Thanks. Thanks everybody.
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