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She's widely recognized for leadership and workforce development, women's empowerment,

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Please welcome the Money Making Conversations Masterclass from Detroit.

Allison Vaughn.

How you doing, Allison?

I am wonderful.

How are you?

I'm looking forward to this conversation all week.

Well, for thank you.

You know, I'm a big fan of Detroit community, a good friend up there, Terrence Wheeler.

He does annual turkey giveaway every year.

I've been telling them he always invited me, but that's that cold part of Detroit.

Thanks giving week.

Woo!

I'm comfortable.

It is super cold here.

I know Terrence.

He's a friend of mine, and it's very cold here.

I mean, when the school's closed here, that means it's super cold and the school's been

closed.

Absolutely.

Talk about what you've been doing for the last 26 years.

An idea that a lot of people have ideas, but you follow them up on your idea.

Tell us about it.

You know what?

I stepped out on faith with my idea.

I started jackets for jobs 26 years ago, and with the thought of helping job seekers,

I realized kind of the catch 22.

If you didn't have an outfit to go for an interview, you know, or job interview, you didn't

go.

But you needed the job to pay for the interview clothes.

And so it's kind of a catch 22.

And so for 26 years, I've been making people look good.

I'm an image consultant.

I dress people so they can look professional when they go for a job interview, not just

to get the job, but to keep the job.

So I'm trying to get our job seekers to look like you or shine.

Shire dress really nice, so they feel confident when they go for that job interview.

And the confidence is very important, you know.

I grew up in the inner city.

I didn't have the clothes that I wanted, and I noticed that I didn't want to go out

to events.

I didn't want to go to dances, because I didn't feel that I was sure my best self.

Now this whole idea, when you say faith, you know, an idea, when you start sharing your

ideas, what were people thinking and how did people assist you not?

So it's lasted 26 years in Detroit.

I know.

Well, first to be able to say 26 years, I think that is such a blessing.

Absolutely.

And if you Google the average lifespan of a business, it'll tell you for a small business,

the average lifespan is like five years, long span, about 10 to 15.

I mean, you know, you're a money man, you know, banks won't even give you a loan unless

you've been in business for about five years just to see that you're stable.

So to be able to say that I have lasted 26 years in the city of Detroit and clothed

over 40,000 job seekers, that's a testimony in itself.

And I think the reason that I've been in business so long is because God gave me the vision.

And when God gives you the vision, He maps everything out for you, because I didn't start

off doing this.

You know, I graduated from Michigan State about a round trip ticket to visit a friend in

Los Angeles.

I never used the return portion of the ticket.

I stayed out in California, started working for United Airlines and God said, I have

something different for you to do.

So I left.

I went into the office at United and I said, you know what?

I think I'm going to leave the company and they said, are you sure?

And I say, yeah, they say, because you know, once you get into the airline industry, it's

like quick sand.

It's hard to get out.

You know, you have all the travel benefits, you know, you're, you know, Hawaii one day

and Florida the next and they say, you sure you want to leave?

And I say, yes, God has given me this vision to start a business.

And I knew nothing about entrepreneurship because that wasn't my goal.

You know, I wanted to be a news anchor or do politics or something other than having

my own business.

And so I stepped out on faith and left a secure company to run, not even knowing where

my next paycheck was going to come from.

So when I say I stepped out on faith, that's what I mean.

So before we get deeper into the end of you, okay, your business, getting these, a tire,

dressing people.

Would you give a website so we can get people focused on going there and start looking

at what you do and also making a contribution.

Talk to us.

Oh, sure.

So jackets for jobs website is jackets for jobs.org and it's all spelled out, J-A-C-K-E-T-S-F-O-R-J-O-B-S-D-O-R-G.

And then my personal website is Allison Vaughn dot com.

So I have two websites, but they'll take you to both.

Now, when they get there, what's the, what are you expected for people when they come to

your website?

What, what, what emotional journey and how can they contribute?

They don't they close or ship you jackets or how does that work?

Oh, I just love you for saying of this.

You're just awesome.

Yes, they can go to the website.

They can see what we've been doing for the last 26 years.

They can make a monetary donation as well as a clothing donation.

So we're always in need of clothes.

We're always in need of plus size things.

I don't know what it is about Detroit, but we have a lot of plus size women here.

So we need a lot of plus size clothes.

And then we always can use money.

You know, anytime you're in business, especially nonprofit, you're always looking for funding.

And so we always expect and the city of Detroit is so very accommodating because we're actually

proud of the city of Detroit's workforce development.

And so we can go to the website and support us.

I appreciate that.

Wow.

So as you, as you look up, no, let's, let's, let's, let's take one of your questions

off of here.

You know, lessons learned from Moments when funding was uncertain, doors were closed.

But the vision was question because we all do that.

You talked about five, first five years.

It's ugly.

Sometimes it's a 10 year mark is like, how about wasted by time and been doing it for 26

years.

The uncertainty, the funding issues, people, girl, you need to walk away from this.

You've done enough.

Talk about that journey.

Allison.

So that's a good question because the journey for me since I was not planning on being

an entrepreneur and God gave me this vision.

I, and so 26 years ago, the internet and Google was not what it is, no, it was not.

So you actually had to go to the library.

So I used to go to the library every day and I would check out books on how to be an

entrepreneur, grant writing for dummies, anything that dealt with business.

And so I would get that book and then they have, they had a little disc in the back of

the book fundraising for dummies, grant writing for dummies.

And so that's how I got started.

And that Detroit News did an article on me for my 20th anniversary.

And I talked about how I was using the book, the dummy series.

Well, that story got picked up by USA Today and the people at the dummy series read the article

and was so happy.

And so they made me a shipment of books, gardening for dummies, grant writing for dummies,

all the different dummy series.

And I thought that was so nice.

And so I credit my success to the dummy series books.

You know, I'm not a dummy, but I knew I was smart enough to go to the library and get

those books.

Well, you know, it's about educating yourself.

It's about, you know, that's what YouTube is.

It's one of the most popular self-health sources of cooking, do it yourself.

I know I go, I go Google things about applications.

I need to understand myself, but it's about education not giving up.

And sometimes you don't have a mentor and I asked that question, did you have a mentor

in this process, or was this learning it all on the job?

Yeah, it was, I'm a job training, but you know, my mother was a very big instrumental

help for me.

Okay.

My mother, I credit my mother for being right by my side, kind of like in the Bible, like

Moses was like, oh, you know, I can't do it in God, you know, had a help send him some

help.

So the book series really helped me.

That was my mentor going to the library, so help.

That was it.

Yes.

So I thought, Allison, you, okay, what is the long game here?

You know, because you start, I know I've been blessed with my life.

You have a vision and after a while, it's, it can change.

It can change.

It can change.

Like you have two locations.

I believe you say you have seven people at each location, you have programs that are

put in place.

When people look at you, is it pressure to do more, or you're just trying to sustain

what you do?

You know, I'm going to go as far as God leads me, you know, no matter what I do, I give

God credit.

So whatever he says, or however he leads, continues to lead this organization, that's

what I'll do.

I always say that God is the founder and he's my boss and I just work for God.

And so when I have my meetings, I consult with God and then I take it to my board and

I take it to my employees.

So I would love to do, you know, like Michelle Obama and Barack, they had a show on Netflix

and it was kind of about jobs and people getting jobs and showing their journey and I would

love to do something like that because there's so much, everyone is a walking book and everyone

has a story and I have a young lady that was a victim of self-sextrafficking and I was

wrapping up her clothes because I really am hands on and I get involved with the company

and I just have my employees do it and I was wrapping up her things and I said, would

you like me to keep your clothes on a hanger and she says, no, I don't have a closet

to put them on.

And I said, you don't have a closet.

She says, no, I just live in a room.

I've been a victim of self-sextrafficking and so there's no closet where I am and so these

clothes will really help me.

So I have to put them on so if you can fold them and put them in a bag.

So I get so many stories like that and so I know that I'm on the right track because

so many people need help and I used to have a location in Botswana and I realized the

reason that Jack is for jobs has been sustainable is because no matter if you're black, white,

rich, poor, Republican, Democrat, everyone understands the need for a job.

Everyone understands that you need to look professional when you go for a job interview.

Everyone knows that you have to build up self-confidence.

So my mission is relevant to no matter who I'm talking to.

Now, when you look at the growing and your location, I would mention this early, you

you're queen of Detroit now.

Now, are you are you sharing some of this raw old T Nation?

Why?

Go on your website say, hey, I'm a size 12, a large, can it give me extra large coat?

Is this our only Detroit base opportunity to update their presentation?

Yes, I've just been staying in the Detroit area.

That's my home base, boy and race in Detroit, but I lived in Los Angeles when I worked

for United Airlines and then I lived in Chicago for a while at the headquarters.

It's so interesting that I do this job because all of my life, I wore a uniform just about

all my life.

I went to a Catholic school.

So from first to 12th grade, I had the little plaid uniform.

I went off to college, Michigan State, I wore jeans and a sweatshirt.

Then after that, I went to United Airlines.

I was a flight attendant, I wore that uniform and then hiring flight attendant.

So it's so interesting that God kind of shifted me that I got into clothing and fashion

and an image consultant because growing up, that just wasn't my thing because of the uniform.

Well, you lived a life of presentation and you understood how people react to you when

you look a certain way, when you dress a certain way.

And I think that consistency, that's what you're talking about now, consistency and you

try and give people an opportunity to have that understanding that value of consistency

when you walk in a room, how people will react to you, whether you got the best suit

on or you got an average suit on.

People will look at you differently now.

And they will have certain financial expectations when they see you dress a certain way, all

walk in a certain way because you know, Allison, when you got the right look, you're going

to walk differently when you don't have the right look, correct?

That is so true.

And that's how our clients, they come in and they're like, oh, I don't know if I want

to be here.

You know, I'm either embarrassed or I don't think I'm going to find anything or they're

not used to shopping and they kind of slunched over, you know, they're slouchy.

When they walk out, their posture is different.

They have a pep in their step.

And that's what I talk about when I say confidence is currency because they feel better about

themselves and they can turn that confidence when they go in a job interview into some

money.

They're not just going applying for a job, knowing that there's so many other applicants,

but their step in their posture, their smile, their handshake is a lot firmer.

And that's why they're going to get that job.

So we help them not only to get a job, but to keep a job.

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Well, I want to make sure I get to another step of your career.

She is widely recognized to my Allison Vaughan, widely recognized for her leadership and

workforce development.

Let's talk about what exactly is workforce development?

Sure.

Workforce development is getting people employed.

And so in the city of Detroit, you know, we have a high unemployment rate, but it's coming

down.

We just have a new administration.

We have the first female mayor in its history of the city of Detroit.

So I'm excited about that, the new leadership.

And so workforce development is all about working and making sure that people in your community

are working and doing something viable, doing something to sustain themselves.

Cool.

My next question.

Women's empowerment.

How is your brand tied to women's empowerment in the city of Detroit?

So great question.

So I was noticing when the clients were coming in, they had low self-esteem.

I was talking about confidence.

And then I said, you know what?

And some of the girls, you know, most of them were government assistant.

Back then, they said welfare.

Now, I want to use the politically correct word to say government assistant.

And so they were just looking for handouts and however they can get money.

And I said, you know what, young ladies, there's more to this than just generational welfare,

more to this than just getting money from somebody.

So I wrote a book called Miss Gold Digger, G-O-A-L Digger, because I didn't want these girls

to be gold diggers, because many of them were gold diggers just getting money how they

can.

I said, no, I want you to change your mindset.

And so that's what I'm talking about when I say women's empowerment.

And the nice thing about it, I'll even show you, you know, because if you have something

you want to promote it right here, and you can get my book on Amazon, so it's Miss Gold

Digger.

G-O-A-L, not gold digger, but gold, like aspirations said to play line of not your dreams,

setting goals, Miss Gold Digger.

Now, let's slide over there and talk about that book because, you know, when you're

sitting down there and you're preparing something, you're doing to play on words as well.

And why did you write the book?

I wrote the book because it's a CEO's guide to having it all.

It's a CEO's guide to dressing the part, looking the part, and having a different mindset.

And so that's what I'm trying to do when I talk to these young girls, have a different

mindset about what you're doing.

And right after I wrote the book, I had the opportunity to do a book signing at the Essence

Festival.

So you can imagine how I was on Cloud 9 because Essence is the largest platform for women's

empowerment.

When people go down to New Orleans, all those thousands and women that gather down there

for the different seminars and the functions that they have uplifting women, and to go there

and do a book signing for my book, Miss Gold Digger, you can imagine I was on Cloud 9 to be

able to take part in that.

Well, definitely because people are not aware of that multi-day festival usually around

the July 4th weekend.

And the attendance can be anywhere from 500,000 to 600,000, I've been there many, many times.

It's more of an empowerment festival, I know music drives it, comedy and entertainment

drives it, but that empowerment sector is really powerful, and that's where the number

really grows there, even though it's attached to the Superdome, Mercedes Superdome.

Now, let's talk about you when you talk about entrepreneurship, and then you talk about

everyday employees, people who work everyday lives for the hour of weeks.

Let's talk about how you work with entrepreneurs, and then talk about how you work with people

who have a daily 8 to 5 money through Friday job.

Wow.

Yeah.

So entrepreneurship, if you're an entrepreneur, there's no 9 to 5, it's 24 cents.

That's why I separated that, so I separated because people need to understand, you can

walk out of that 40 hour week, it will be 80 hour weeks as soon as you walk out of that.

You are not kidding, and so I always want to stress that, because people come up to me

all the time, oh, I'm interested in starting a nonprofit.

So two things, if you want to start a nonprofit, be prepared for 24-7 and be prepared for

a lot of paperwork, because you have to cross your teeth and dot your eyes when you have

a nonprofit, because when people are giving money to you, you have to have an accountability.

It's not like just, you know, selling, you know, set additions, and you get the money,

and then that's it.

But you have to account for all the dollars that come to you.

So there's a lot of paperwork, if you're interested in being an entrepreneur.

And so it takes time, because you have to build a relationship with people before they

give you money.

And that's what I learned.

They're not so much, they give to the cause, but they're really giving to you.

And to see that you're able to sustain, you're able to manage that money.

So people look at you different when you have a nonprofit because of the management that

you have to do with the money.

It's important.

Now, let's slide over there to the everyday eight to five person, because really as the

head of a business, sometimes your attire can be tied to the type of work you do, okay?

If you, you know, if you're a baker, you're going to dress like a baker.

If you're a person out there, a consultant, you're going to dress like a consultant.

If you're doing outdoor laborers duties, you're going to dress like that.

But a person who's going to an eight to five, they have to understand where they are

in the job hierarchy and how they should address accordingly.

Because some people, you know, they want to, they want to still have, let's go and be

honest, maybe the nightclub looking close to work, because I'm a dress the way I feel

like dressing.

So let's talk about your views on, let's talk about women.

I got a, I got a daughter, so we can talk about that.

And how women should understand dressing makes, plays the right part for the opportunity

you try to get.

That is so true.

And you know what I stress is, there's a difference between day wear, D-A-Y, day wear

and date wear.

And some of these young ladies are dressing for the date, they're like, okay, after work,

I'm going to the club.

And I say, no, there's a difference between day wear and date wear.

Just because you're going to the club after work does not mean you wear that to work.

You have to go home and change clothes or do something because you cannot come with

your cleavage hanging out, you can't go with your pants hanging down and all of this revealing.

You know, leave something to the imagination when you're on a date.

But when you're on a, in a daytime at a job, you represent that company.

And so you want to caution on the side of being more conservative.

And so I definitely stress that that you could, because you're representing a company and

you want to look professional.

And so we have a big conversation on that.

Awesome.

If you, if this boy sounds familiar as Alison Bond, she is the CEO and founder of Jackets

for Job.

I brought on the show because she going into a 26 year quarter of a century.

That's a long time.

That's a bit commitment.

When you talk about a commitment that long, what does success look like, Alison, after

25 years?

Can I teach you about how you started?

You know, probably hanging clothes up in your closet and they had a little U-Haul.

Now you just, we're, we should, I got two locations.

I don't know what you're talking about now.

What does success look like after 25 years going into year 26 in Detroit?

In Detroit.

In Detroit, you know, I've had so many successes and which has been wonderful.

But I have to say one of my favorite success and it actually happened twice for me.

And that was ringing the closing bell on Nasdaq.

Wow.

Congratulations.

Yeah.

I rang the closing bell on Nasdaq twice.

The first time the market was down, the second time the market was up, you know, closing

bell, you know, was up.

So to me, that was a wonderful thing because to be in touch and tap into the world market,

I just think, you know, thank you, Lord, for that opportunity.

But to me, success is seeing someone that's unemployed and then they call me and tell

me that they have a job.

And that's the measure of, those are the metrics that I use and that's the measure of success.

When you can help someone get a job and they can change their whole household, they can

change their household to becoming stable and having income come in and then changing

the whole direction of their household because now there's money coming in, they're self

sufficient.

And that's success to me to helping someone else.

Cool.

At this point, let's give out that website again.

You have two of them so people can reach out, find out more about you and what you're doing

in Detroit, saving lives over 40,000, so far, 14,000 of them so far.

That's right.

That's right.

So anyone interested, you can go to jacketsforjobs.org or you can go to Alison Vaughn.

dot com or find me on social media like on LinkedIn.

I'm not on Instagram as much because I'm so busy working as social media platforms.

Yes, it is.

It really is.

I can do X anymore.

I couldn't do X.

I just told myself, got to stop, got to pull up all something, can't do it all because

you know, just so many platforms that benefit the engagement or reaction that you need for

your particular brand.

It's all right to be on one or two.

You don't have to be across the board.

I'm going to get down.

I'm on Instagram.

I'm on Facebook.

I'm on LinkedIn.

It's a lot.

Now, I know you're very popular on LinkedIn now, Alison.

Yes.

How do you use LinkedIn for your brand?

Basically, I use LinkedIn because I want to be able to connect with donors and our sponsors

and our contributors and foundations.

So I like to stay engaged so they can see what I'm doing to further the business and then

I want them to see things about jackets for jobs.

So that's my business platform.

But then I have my Facebook platform, which is a little different.

This is what I did for the weekend.

I went to the Lions game, but then I might post something different when I'm on LinkedIn.

When I'm on LinkedIn.

So it's two different personalities, but the same person.

Let's talk about you've been investing in people because, you know, you said, Rishad,

we don't use the word welfare anymore.

So right there tells me the level of people that you're committed to uplifting.

Yes.

What happens when we don't invest in people?

What happens when we start stereotyping people?

Because that's what you're trying to do with your nonprofit is to break stereotyping at

least by our parents.

Exactly.

So talk about that.

You know, it's hard.

It's really hard because the population of people that I deal with are government assistant

most of them.

I do have some that are doing a, you know, job, you know, transformation or they're transferring

into a different career.

But for the most part, they're government assistant clients that I'm dealing with.

So I'm dealing with, you know, the quote unquote, pookies and ray rays and shanequils.

You know, if you want to, you're talking about stereotypes, those quote unquote that type

and we all know what that means.

But I just try to change it.

You know, that's, that's my goal.

And I've been doing it, you know, pretty well.

Like you mentioned, 26 years, 44 over 40,000, you know, people.

So we're doing something right to get to them.

And you know, just send them love and see my sister that I didn't have a relationship

with, she died of cancer and she was on welfare.

And that's one of the reasons why I started this organization.

And so everyone that comes in, I'm reminded of my sister.

And I want to be able to help them because my sister had three kids.

And she was a welfare recipient and different, the children had different fathers.

And I said, you know what?

I want to be able to help each lady that comes through.

I want to be able to help each guy that comes through.

And so that's, that's my mission.

So it is hard to change that stereotype.

But you know, once you're at a time is all that I can do.

Wow.

That's outstanding advice and are also sharing some, are known as part of your past.

You know, because we all live setbacks and in your business, you look at them.

You see a setback coming to do it.

Like you've already told us that level of people you work for.

How do you emotionally, Allison, get up, go in there, know some people you can't help.

You try and though.

You can, you can see a person go, I'm still going to give 100% because they need about

100%.

How do you as a leader, as a motivator, a person who inspires who has tremendous faith

because you mentioned it several times during this interview, make it happen every day

for you.

Because this is a seven, it's a seven day a week job.

You might go in that money through Friday, but this is a seven day a week job.

Talk to us.

It is.

And you know, that's interesting that you mentioned that it's a seven day a week because a couple

weeks ago, it was super, super cold here in Detroit.

And we had a lot of extra clothes in one of our warehouses.

And I said, you know what?

In the winter time, you need to layer up.

So we're going to open it up and Fox two news came and did a story that Jack is from

jobs is giving out clothes so people can layer up.

And a young girl had a baby on her back and she was taking the bus and I thought about

that girl all weekend and it hurt me so bad because I should have told her, if you can

just wait to, we're done.

I can give you a ride home because she had to get on the bus when it was that day.

It was one degree and the winter factor was like minus five.

And I thought about that young lady the entire weekend like gosh, I did not do enough

for her.

Even though we gave her a bag full of clothes, I did not do enough for her and I think

about her all and this just happened a couple, you know, like a week and a half ago.

But it's just really hard, emotional.

We keep a box of tissue at our desk because we know everyone that walks through has a story.

We walk through that was sleeping in their car last night, somebody walked through just

found out that they're pregnant and this is their sixth child and they barely can take

care of the five that they have.

So as everyone has a story and so you have to be compassionate and everyone that I hire,

I tell them in order to have this job, you have to have compassion with each person and

not judge.

And that's the thing you cannot judge.

Wow.

She's Alison Vaughan, founder and CEO of Jackets for Jobs and Detroit based nonprofit and

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