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Get it, the bird show.
What a f***ing to do, Jen.
Come on, I was trying to be your ringman.
We're in the halls for the last two hours or whatever, and I've been doing a show with
these guys for four and a half hours, and you walk in the door, and 30 seconds before
that she tells me I have some big leaf in my teeth.
Oh, that's not nice.
It's a setup, man.
You could have told me that it's 730 this morning.
Did you have it last?
It wasn't a setup.
He was lie or two.
No, it was true.
He really did have stuff in his teeth, but I didn't see it until just when you were
walking in the door.
But I would say that's very nice to see.
Yeah, but you could have told me four hours ago, now it's stuck in my nail.
I didn't see it before.
How are you today?
I'm all right.
I'm thank you very much.
You just drove in from Florida, huh?
Yes, we got right on the bus from the show.
I fell asleep in my fishnet.
Nice, okay.
And then I rolled off the bus this morning.
Then I'll leave some good marks.
Yeah.
I'm not going to roll.
I think all girls have done that before.
Wake up with the pantyhose marks, but the fishnet, that's extra special.
You have to.
Is that how your schedule is?
Yes.
And it has been for over a year and a half.
Is that the one thing that you weren't expecting when you started in the industry?
Because you've been doing music for a while, but now we're talking mainstream stuff?
Well, actually, to be honest, I was quite disciplined on my own in New York.
So I used to play shows once or twice a week.
And then when I wasn't playing shows, I was hustling record labels or I was doing show
cases or I was making flyers or I used to go go dance to make extra cash to pay for demos
and things.
So I always, like, was so fearless and wanted it so bad.
And now it's just great because I get to do what I love every day.
And of course, I get tired once in a while, I'm a human being, but whenever I get on that
stage and I see those fans, it's like, it's like a eight cups of coffee.
Is it easier for you now, actually, than it was when you were in New York doing the whole
go-go move in hustling?
It's not easy waking up every morning thinking how you can please your fans.
I mean, I'm quite obsessive actually about the show and I want everyone to have a good
time and leave a vomit on their shirts.
Nobody leaves the studio until we don't have the vomit on our shirts.
We know if it's a good memory or spinach in our teeth.
Well, you create shock art performances is what it's being called.
I don't think that it's particularly shocking.
I guess it's other people that think it's shocking.
It's just, it's a complete visual with the fashion and the dance and the music.
That's all meant to represent my lifestyle in New York.
Do you have a stylist or is it just like your personal style is the way you always dress
for?
This is my personal style.
I like it.
And then the show, I designed some of the pieces, some of the other pieces are inspired
by other designers or made by other designers.
But the overall concept, that's me and the house, which is about five to six young friends
of mine.
They're all about my age and we're all really bossy and we make you labeled yourself
as bossy.
I'm a little bossy or like, do you have to have control of all this?
Are you sort of like a control freak?
You could say I'm a control freak or you could just say that I'm not a lazy pop singer.
Like that.
Like that.
Would people around you, would they label you as high maintenance because you're such
a perfectionist?
No.
Well, I am a perfectionist, but I'm not, I'm something that's very important to me on
my team is that everybody is kind to one another, everybody appreciates one another, everyone
plays a part on that stage and everybody knows that I like things to be done in a certain
methodical way, but it's, it's just because I really care and to be, to be completely
honest, the show is quite complicated.
So it's like, if my mannequin is not lit properly with my bubble piano and my bubble
dress, it's like, yes, of course I got upset because I spend every dollar that I make
on iTunes and everywhere else on my music and my show because I don't care about buying
fancy cars and condominiums.
So I take it very seriously.
Are you a Yeller?
If the bubble wrap's not working, are you like, I'm not a Yeller.
The only time I've ever yelled is when my sound is bad because when you're standing in
front of 3,000 people and you can't f*** yourself, that is like the worst and I, and I
just, that is, you'll just hear me, I'm just, but you know, I'm not a diva at all.
You know, I'm a pop singer who knows how to make a show off both a beer and a champagne
budget.
So like, I'm a real chick and I really love what I do and it's all about my fans.
Is the rest of the industry, do you think it's just sort of like, it's boring?
It's not that it's, I think that there's some really remarkable artists and I think that
there's artists that do care about their show and all those things.
But I do think that some artists are perhaps victimized by their labels and they don't
have the relationship that I have with Interscope, which is amazing.
I mean, we designed that entire American Idol performance and never told anybody what
we were going to do in front of 20 million people.
So the label showed up and they said, all right Gaga, let's see what you did, right as
it went to air.
I mean, as far as they knew, I could have gone on stage with like a tampon string, stopped
on my back.
I think I'd be birthday, they don't know, right?
They don't know, but they trust me and they, they trust that my pop sensibilities as
well as my abilities as an artist.
Listen, I'm not trying to teach Picasso to America.
I just want to do something different.
So.
It's Lady Gaga on the virtue of Q100.
So what is the most selfish, indulgent thing that you bought with your first check?
My bubble piano.
Yeah.
It all goes back into the show.
Bubble piano.
When I told everyone how much that piano cost before I built it, they were like, you are
on drugs.
What do you go to where do you go to have a bubble piano built?
Like, what do you, what do you Google search to find that very, very smart young friends
that are artists?
And I just, I say, you know, we sit, we sit down and I say, I want to make a piano entirely
inspired by this dress.
And I showed them the photo of the Hussein Chilean dress and I said, let's make it light
up.
And we need to have reflective materials in it so that it produces light when it's on
the stage.
That's it.
And then we built it.
That's an artist's story.
And it is.
That is so cool.
It's great.
But that's like, when you say to me, is it easier now?
It's not easier because of course all the, my schedule is more difficult, you know, all
of that.
But what is easier is that when I have a creative dream in my room at night, I can wake
up and I can make it a reality.
Now you were just talking about coming up in the Lower East Side in New York City.
Is it impossible for you to play there now?
Like, do you have like a million groupies who all say I knew her when?
No.
It's, I went home and I was welcomed with open arms by my friends.
And they're very cool.
It's like, I go home and they close the bar down and, you know, I DJ or whatever.
And it's just like it's a good time and we're able to really celebrate the fact that
kids all over the world want to be a part of the scene that we created in that neighborhood.
And that, you know, that feels really cool.
It's like it's a, it's a new story and a new vibe and everybody down there just lives
for music and fashion and it's just so, it's just a beautiful thing.
I really think all you need is love and art and your friends.
You know, this picture that you're sort of painting of this club scene and the Lower
East Side is so different from the pop world that did you have any kind of inner struggle
at one point going, well, if I do that, if I go into the pop world, I'm sort of, I feel
like I'm selling out to myself.
Actually, it was the opposite.
Yeah.
I thought to myself, what could I do that would be so radical in this innately radical
neighborhood?
I could sing pop music.
Pop music is like the antithesis of all things.
Cool.
Right.
Right.
The hipster is like, ah, the industry and I hated plastic and me and my spikes are going
to deflate your fake boobs.
Like, it's so punk, you know?
And I thought, what if I did a pop show that these rock and roll kids would want to go
see?
And it was always my intention to crack the pop market.
Yeah.
It was always my intention to give everybody the flu.
Did anybody along the way go look, you're just, you're hitting us from the wrong angle.
There's just no way that this is going to work.
Everybody.
Yeah.
I got dropped from like record labels.
I, my parents were like saying, hey, I'm Mary's.
You know, everyone was like, this is a little theatrical, but isn't really that what
showmanship is all about?
You know, some people might really hate me, but I don't think that vanity is a bad
thing.
I think it's something that can really make you know exactly who you are and love yourself.
And I want my fans to love themselves.
You said that there are some people that might hate you or you having a tough time at all
with any kind of criticisms that have come your way.
You know, to be perfectly honest, a lot of it's true.
The negative things that they say.
Like what?
Well, they say that I'm pretentious and I am quite pretentious about my work.
And they say that I'm disgusting and I am quite disgusting and I'm okay with that.
It's like, I'm not as squeaky clean individual and it's like, and it's like, what's your definition
of disgusting?
I don't know, I'm just saying, you know, I don't even know what that really means.
But when I hear that word, it's not something that I wouldn't necessarily not associate
with myself.
That's awesome.
So I'm just kind of like, okay, you know, but I don't think I think that there would
be something very wrong with this with me and with this whole project and my music if
everybody in the world thought that I was like a little doll because I'm a real girl.
I'm a real girl with a very strange name who makes art and that's it.
And I'm sorry that people aren't used to that, but I'm not going anywhere.
I'm sorry at all.
Sorry, not even a little bit.
We had this this do Spencer pret on with us a couple of days ago and you know, this
is the guy from the hills, right?
Do you know who this dude is?
We can say that.
You can say that.
Yeah, we call it.
Yeah, thank you.
We wouldn't even know.
Have you heard of the hills that's showing MTV?
Of course, yes.
Okay, this guy is, he's the lead dude on the show and he was on the other day and Wendy
had read some comments that he made about you in the tabloids and she asked him about
it.
And I want to play you his comments because while you're saying that in some cases you
agree with what they're saying, I think in a case like this, you're probably not on
she's already gagging.
Not just a minute.
What's his name is that Spencer pret and he's got his wife Heidi has just put out her
first thing Heidi.
Oh, I'm taggy.
Okay.
Now it's in the bell.
Well, because she's saying my song fashion, she did her own version of it.
That's where the beef originally started because Heidi was supposed to sing the song.
I wrote the song.
Yeah.
A long time ago I wrote it for the sexy city movie.
But he was on with us and he was telling us when she did it, I thought I got the reality
television star.
He thinks that his wife is more talented than Beyonce and Madonna and Britney Spears.
So when your name came up, this was like, these were the comments.
And I said he made about you guys, it can't get over that she's like new hop icon of
the world.
Like I'm not trying to.
You know, like just dance the good song, you know, program based a good song.
But if you like, she's like the new Britney Spears, it's like Britney's still in the
game.
So I don't even know why this girl gets so much attention and press but hey, I guess
if you dress like a fool and have crazy ridiculous haircuts, people start paying attention.
It's quite a statement to make about his wife, which is very nice to say, but I think
it's lovely that he's so supportive of her.
I mean, I don't, to be perfectly honest, it's like, I don't want to say anything about
about anyone.
But I think that when you're an artist or when you're a public figure, you should be
a gentleman and be a lady.
I don't say bad things about other people and I don't think that other people should.
He's completely entitled to his opinion.
And if he thinks I dress foolish, then he thinks I dress foolish.
If I cared about what Spencer Pratt thought about my fashion more than I cared about
what Jeremy Scott thinks of my fashion, I would be foolish.
Okay.
It's like, I'm just the truth of it is you have to empower people in your life that you
know will teach you things.
And I have to stay focused on those people close to me that believe in what I do.
He's completely entitled to his opinion and he's completely right in his opinion.
And I think it's wonderful that he's so supportive of his wife.
You know, I just think it's silly to have like beef with people.
I'm sure he's very nice.
You seem like such the rebellious rebel.
You don't even, you're not even a good rebel because you're so cool.
Well, I am, you know, I'm just who I am.
Yeah.
You know, I'm, I'm my music and I'm my show.
That's it.
And it's obviously working because you're sold out here, you're sold out all over the
country.
It's very exciting.
Wow, I love my fans so much.
You don't even, I cry on stage like a child.
Oh, that's awesome.
He's crying.
It's Lady Gaga on the virtue of Q100.
Do people expect you to be like this hardcore rocker when they first meet you?
And then they meet you and they're like, this girl has so much confidence in herself
and when she performs, do you, do you get that reaction?
Like people are like, why isn't she like tearing stuff up and throwing fits
and going crazy because of all this paparazzi attention?
Oh, you mean like, why aren't I self-destructing?
Yeah.
I think that's what people like really first expect.
Well, I think that what the press does is they, in an attempt to humanize artists, try
to highlight their flaws.
Make artists and celebrities look weak because they're in such a position of power.
I don't really think I'm all that powerful.
I just make music just like you guys are on the radio.
This is my destiny.
This is your destiny.
So it's like, it's just, I think about how you think about things.
And I don't totally agree with you.
I think a lot of people think I'm a ridiculous mess, but it's very nice of you to say.
It's very nice of you to say.
And sometimes I am a ridiculous mess and sometimes I'm not.
And it's like at the end of the day, it is much more important to me to do a good job
and have great music and a great show than to have a bunch of models at a table in a
nightclub.
I'm just not that girl.
Can I ask a superficial question?
How did you learn to walk in six-inch stilettos?
That was a large question.
That was just about to ask that.
Well, I think it's a gift.
But you know, it's so funny because when I played with the pussycat dolls, I'm so sorry.
You're blowing up.
That's your alarm because that's the same alarm as your blackberry.
You can go just and you really wouldn't freeze it by me.
When I played with the pussycat dolls in Europe, I had a much smaller stage in the front
of the arena.
And one night, my creative guy comes to me and he's like, God, God, tonight, we can't,
we've got to either use your backstrap or your screens.
And I said, why?
He said, well, if we use both the backstrap and your screens, you're only going to have
three feet of stage.
But if you get rid of one of them, you'll have almost four.
So I looked at him and I said, I think we should use both.
And he goes, but Gaga, how are you going to dance in heels on three feet of stage?
And I said to him, well, it's a good thing I've been dancing on bars for years.
It's a good point as part of your destiny.
And it's true.
Don't downplay anything in your life because you know, maybe I never thought that when
I was getting dollar bills shoved in my panties at clubs that would ever repurpose itself.
That lady Gaga on the birch show on Q100 really enjoyed our time with you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Well, that's very kind.
Six minutes.
Every thing that's the only thing we play.
The plan is going to throw tomatoes out.
Hey, congratulations on all the success.
Thank you very much.
It's going to be around for a while.
Thank you.
Can't wait for the show.
Well, good luck.
It's going to be a great show.
And thanks for joining us.
We appreciate your time.
All right.
Lady Gaga.
Get it.
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