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So Victor, I want to just start maybe with a few things about,

because we just had the primaries in North Carolina and Texas.

And I suppose our viewers probably noticed that the Jasmine Crockett did not win the primary

in the Democrats for a Senate seat.

And Krenshaw on the side of the Republicans lost the primary for a Republican seat.

And I was wondering if you had thoughts on either of those or anything about the primaries.

Well, in the Democratic side, they have this narrative that it's going to be blue again,

like it was in the 60s and 70s.

You know, I can remember there were all sorts of, you know, there were the John Connelly's,

but there were the Ralph Yar Burles and there were a lot of liberal Texans in.

So Jasmine Crockett thinks that she's going to be Beto, you know, again, as charismatic.

And she doesn't realize he lost.

I think he's run for Congress.

He's a president, Senator, he loses.

So she thought that she was going to galvanize the black vote.

And she would have a chance.

The good news is that she gave up her congressional seat she had to.

So she's out, she's gone, it's out, kaput.

We don't see her anymore.

No more big tie raids about white people doing this and that to her and all this.

The other thing that was strange that most states have polls, not all,

but polls at seven, Texas Supreme Court enforced that.

And she wanted to keep going until nine o'clock, almost, you know, in the big city,

she thought that there were black voters that hadn't come out yet.

You know, you have 12 hours, but she wanted more.

So when that didn't happen, she claimed she couldn't close the gap.

And then at that point, she started blaming Republicans because it was a Texas Supreme Court.

That's a absurd.

The fact of the matter was she lost that Senate race because she couldn't win Hispanic voters

and so much for the intersectionality in the rainbow coalition.

Hispanic voters are very sensitive when she gets on her high horse

and starts talking about white people.

About 30% of people who applied to census who are Hispanic, rightly so, say they're white.

And you know, whether we like these rubrics or not,

I can tell you that I went to school with 60, 70% of Hispanics

and the summer, I was darker than 50% of them.

So they have a point and they don't like to hear that all the time and that racial stuff.

So she didn't win the so-called DEI oppressed vote.

She didn't win at least in margins she needed.

So she's out, that's too bad because she would have been in a very real politics.

She would have been a very weak candidate.

So on the other side, you've got Paxton who was a kind of a MAGA stalwart former attorney general

but he has so many, he's had adultery and he's had all of these attempted impeachment attempt.

So he's got a checkered history and then you've got Kornon who is not quite a Bush Republican

and not quite a MAGA.

He's flexible, he's sort of like Lindsey Graham.

But he's a solid vote and he can win.

If he were to be the nominee, he would beat Telequero Crico, yes.

Tele-Rico, yeah.

Tele-Rico, he would beat Tele-Rico.

If Paxton wins, there will be rhinos and other people who will either sit out and might not vote for him.

So at some point, Trump's going to have to make a decision

because he hasn't endorsed anybody and he's got to get his pollsters out there in a month or two

or whenever and he's got to decide two things.

Who has a better chance of winning the primary and who has a better chance of beating Tele-Rico?

That's what he has to do.

And I think it's going to be as exasperating he is as exasperating as Paxton is

to rhinos and everything, he will get the MAGA vote in the primary.

But Conan will probably win, I think.

He can win if Trump endorses him and that's going to be a tough one.

So Trump's going to have to poll the primary, he's going to have to poll the general

and then he's going to have to decide and he'll do that.

Which of those two candidates can beat the Democratic nominee?

By the way, do you have any thoughts on Tele-Rico as a candidate?

I know you obviously think he's stronger than Jasmine Crockett since you would rather have her there.

Well, she's not crazy.

So he doesn't spout off.

He won because the typical liberal Austin Texan or people in the big cities who are white,

yuppie, upward, they don't like Jasmine Crockett.

They can say all they want about being left-wing and DI,

but they don't like to have somebody make fun of white people because they're white.

And that's she's a racist and that's what all she does.

And she should have known that, but she didn't.

His problem is they're trying to,

with Spamberger and Virginia and with Joe Biden in 2020,

they know their agenda repels people.

No one wants open borders, transgendered people in sports of the opposite sex,

but they shouldn't be and a biological sex in locker rooms.

They don't trust them on the economy.

They don't trust them on foreign policy.

So they have to mimic fame, camouflage what they are in the primaries and in the general election.

So that's why Spamberger said I'm a daughter of law enforcement and I'm a CIA agent

and I, and then as soon as she got in,

she announced, unfortunately for her,

that she wasn't going to cooperate at all with ICE,

at the moment, Sierra Leone immigrant had, again, butchered a young woman,

sort of like the train that we saw.

And then she just taxed anything that moved Joe Biden.

Remember, he ran as old Joe Biden from Scranton in 2020,

and then he had his puppeteers.

He made, they made him falsty and bargain where they said,

if in 2020, we nominate Pete Buttigieg,

Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders or Spartak any of those, they're going to lose.

However, if we can weak packaged good old Joe Biden from the 70s and keep his mouth shut

and just go through the motions, he's seen how they knew it.

And then we can bring in the Obama team and have the most radical administration.

And that's what they did.

And that's what they'll do with Taylor Rico.

He will say that he's a Morgan Christian,

that he talks about Christ, that he's very religious,

that he's compatible with evangelical Christian values,

but he is a hardcore neosocialist.

And I hope the Texans don't get fooled.

I don't think they will.

But it's a clinch off.

When he first came on the scene, everybody was startled, ex-seal.

You know, he was a war veteran.

He'd been wounded, lost an eye.

And he was responsible, good looking, where I was on a panel with him once.

He was very well spoken.

I think he won by 60% in his first election.

And then he was ambiguous about the MAGA movement.

And he felt that they were two isolationists

or they didn't have a proper deterrent foreign policy.

And he started getting in feuds, ex-fewed social media feuds.

That's a big mistake.

Everybody would get in those one-on-one, it's a big mistake.

But he did, and he alienated the MAGA movement.

And then if you're a congressperson in a state, there's two senators.

There's a lot of congresspeople.

The one thing you do not do is alienate the senator of your party.

And he and Ted Cruz got into it.

And Ted Cruz endorsed his opponent.

So he lost.

And I think they will retain that seed.

It's not going to be.

And the seed, trough, he is a more conservative, more MAGA candidate.

Quinshell was a very impressive guy at the beginning.

Yeah, he sure was.

A lot of people are like that.

Cool.

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So victor there was a tanker on fire, natural gas fire in the Mediterranean just off of

Malta and it appears to have been hit by a drone and they're highly suspected.

It was a Russian tanker taking gas.

We suspect to China.

I don't know if that's known for sure.

And yes, and we think that the Ukrainians might have hit it.

I think they did.

They are known for sophisticated seed drone.

So the implication is that a nondescript, smaller ship, maybe at night, unleashed a couple

of seed drones and then they went skimmed across the ocean and hit this thing.

But it was full.

I don't know 100,000 tons of now liquefied natural gas.

So it and we should remember something about these tankers.

This wasn't one of the mega tankers, but the Gerald R Ford aircraft carrier is about

a hundred, those, those Nimitz class and four, they're about a thousand feet long.

And this one is the big, the Gerald Ford aircraft is the biggest.

I think it's 105,000 displaced tonnage, this displacement.

These mega tankers are 1500 feet long and they can displace a half, a half a million tonnage.

So you wouldn't want to have this habitual.

So we get back to this age old dilemma with Ukraine.

What is militarily, militarily viable and justified doing, given what Russia did to them,

is not always geostrategically wise.

So Russia invaded, Russia's killing civilians, Russia's doing this and this.

But Russia is a huge nuclear power.

And we have to be care, we have been careful, we the West, you know, how we arm them.

So that they don't do to Russia, what Russia does to it.

So they attack key with impunity.

If we gave them, for example, long-range missiles and they started taking out apartment

buildings or part of the Kremlin, you can see what Russia would do.

They have the wherewithal with tactical newt and then we would be in a Defcon one.

So the same thing, if they are taking out these embargo tankers on the high seas, first

of all, they're going to blow up and they're dangerous and they pollute.

You get this huge tanker adrift or maybe it will sink, we don't know.

But you can't have open sea, open season, it's much better to let, you know, the United

States have its dares to do that with Russian tankers and just take it into port.

It's escalating and I think the Ukrainians see us, here's what's happening.

We are now in a theater war with Iran.

The attention is off Ukraine.

There has been information that the Ukrainians have been helping us with drones, giving their

expertise.

And so they feel that they can do things now that the world won't pay attention to.

And especially because there's been a lot of things, I've written some of them that

this war, if it should be successful and I think it will be, will emasculate Russia for

good and China in the Middle East.

So Ukraine is looking at all this and saying, you know, they're not going to get really

mad at me because I'm kind of doing what they're doing and they would like after they knock

out Iran, they would like to ward it in with a viable autonomous Ukraine intact and maybe

they can turn their attention to Cuba.

And this is now a geo kind of a weak lukewarm hot cold geo strategic war between China and

the United States and maybe Russia with China at times.

So they see a window of opportunity to up it.

But it's a dangerous thing because you've got too many things going on in the choke points

of the world.

We've had this problem with the Panama Canal.

We had to deal with, we've got Gibraltar now, we're Spain or but bases right there,

the Spanish won't let us use these bases, NATO bases to operate against Iran.

We've got the Black Sea, the Bosphorus where Russia is coming, you know, that's the only

way it can get out.

Yet it's a war right with Ukraine and it's been attacking ships and vice versa on the

Black Sea.

Turkey so far has honored its commitments and let people come to that choke point.

We have the Straits of Four Moos.

I never understood why they never made it.

You know, you have that peninsula that juts out from Oman and then you have that little

narrow.

I never understood why they didn't make sort of a Panama Canal across Oman so they would

be protected and just make a straight shot rather than go up and then back right in front

of Iran.

Iran doesn't have a navy now but they've got a lot of drones and we don't even know

if they have sea drones or not so they can stop.

So my point is Trump's midterm is if he, if the price of gas, he's been trying, trying

infinitely bragging that he got the price and justifiably so but when you've got the

Straits of Four Moos and now you're attacking liquid natural gas on the high seas, it's

going to be, I think he can't stop now but there's going to be pressure for him from

the bankers and the insurance companies and the Europeans to say well you won but you

can't right now because you haven't quite demilitarized Iran and you still have a shot

at getting a regime that's different than the one there.

Yeah, so I have a question actually on that but let's take a break and then come back

and we'll talk a little bit more about the war in Iran.

Stay with us and we'll be right back.

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So Victor, I did have a question on that.

It seems like the war is devolving at its center to American and Israeli air power is somehow

supposed to meet protests on the ground and maybe there will be a regime change and

I was wondering what you thought about what could possibly happen.

And then second thing is if you could give evaluation of the significance of Israel in

this war, I know it's very significant but I would like to hear that, you know, your

thoughts.

The conventional wisdom is that if you go to war, especially in the Middle East and you

want to change the regime, you have to be on the ground.

I don't quite think that all the examples quite fit that.

The 91 war, 91 first goal for, we were on the ground.

We had a huge coalition.

We had almost a million there and we didn't change the regime.

So it's always a political matter.

In 2011, Barack Obama started bombing Libya with a French and the British.

They did, we moved the regime but they weren't there to usher in at replacement so you had

tribal warfare.

And of course, Haykum Jeffery is just embarrassed himself when he said that, you know, you

needed a war power's resolution to conduct war and the Democrats would insist on that.

And of course, that's not what Obama did.

And then he said, well, it was, it was very temporary.

No, it wasn't very temporary.

He bombed Obama.

I think the last day in office in 2017 in January, he sent a, he bombed a camp in Libya.

He was bombing, bombing, bombing.

So can you remove a regime?

I think you can remove it.

I think the point is you can, not that you can't remove a regime but it's hard to remove

a and then replace it with something you want.

We had to go in on the ground with Maduro.

So we'll see and the $64,000 question is, is there anybody on the ground?

Somebody's on the ground because somebody, I know the Israelis have tapped into their traffic

cameras.

They've tapped into their communications but they have Mossad people all over that country.

And the United States probably does too.

We have a lot of Iranian expatriates here in the country.

So I don't know what the plan is as far as the, there is a rough division of labor.

The United States is going after all of the air defenses, not that they don't overlap.

But they're concentrating on the missile launchers, the air defenses and maybe some government

buildings that are associated with the, you know, revolutionary guard.

I think Israel has a checklist of all the people it wants out.

And it has better intelligence on the ground than we do.

And I think they are the ones that are removing going down that checklist.

And I think the point they're trying to make and whether they have us do it or not, that's

their emphasis.

And I think what they're trying to do is say to the Iranians, anybody who takes over

that has theocratic credentials going to be dead.

So you can announce that you're the next common A or you can now, you're the next Ayatollah

or you're the next whatever present.

But it's funny they haven't, they haven't gone after the president, you know, there's

certain people they don't go after.

And that sends a tool message.

It says if you're going to moderate and you might want to be a transitional figure,

you're not going to get killed.

And we're not really going after the officers anymore of the Iranian army that don't have

theocratic connections.

So we'll see.

And the people can't go out yet because there's an active war.

So the $64,000 question to use that phrase again is when they say we're going to take

a pause, will these people go out?

And if they go out and the revolutionary guard unleashes Iraqis or his ballah killers

as they did last time and themselves, will there be ground support?

I don't mean from, you know, 20,000 feet, will they send in Apache helicopters or something

to help the protesters and then more in real war?

So there's a lot of unknowns.

Yeah, they're sure is.

And I understand that the Americans spent some time before this war started, uh, Army

Kurdish, um, military in the north.

What is the significance of that faction up there?

Well, it's really tricky.

There's never been a modern, um, there's never been a modern Kurdistan autonomous, but

the closest we got after the Iraq war, I think that's the model.

When we went into Iraq, we basically said there's going to be parts of Iraq that are going

to have semi autonomy and they do.

There are Kurds in Syria, there's Kurds in Iran, there's Kurds in Iraq and there's

Kurds in Turkey, but they're disparate.

They're not all collected and, but they're very pro-American and I would imagine that we're

going to tell them, um, in your, and they're controlled by Iran, they don't have autonomy.

So on the borderland, they go across the border, but on the borderland, they're in many cities

where they would be able to, uh, if they were armed properly and led and supported, they

could take over the municipalities.

And if they started to do that, the idea would be, well, the Kurds now have thrown out

the revolutionary government and it's in an open, open civil war, and then maybe other

people to the south or wherever it would start to join.

Well, I then was wondering about those allies are not so great of allies who were opposed

this.

I know Spain stands out in front as the Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has blocked the

U.S. from using bases, but the British were a little bit reluctant to let us use bases

and Greenland announced that it wouldn't allow us to use bases.

You know, I, um, I think I mentioned before 1974 was a student in Athens and you had

the Cypriot war with Greek against Turks.

The Turks invaded and helped the Turkish minority take half the island.

And because they were both NATO countries, ostensibly the United States said that it wouldn't

intervene.

Kissinger and the real politics people said, we'll look at the NATO power, look at the

military government in the military government in 1974 in Turkey was not Erdogan like.

It was staunchly pro-American and the government that had replaced the dictatorship had now elected

a anti-American, with American wife, of course, Papandreu.

So you had this anti-American Greek government where the Greeks were being slaughtered by this

overwhelming Turkish force and they got very, very angry about it.

And that raised the whole question of NATO bases and there had been a pre-existing precedent

for this.

During the Yom Kippur War of 1973, the Greek government, which was still a dictatorship,

I think it was general, you know, these, I think, the prior colonels had been, had been replaced.

But here's what my point was, I sat in a NATO, above the NATO base in Hanyah Creek with

about three guys and we stayed up all night with binoculars. It was, it was dusk and it was so,

it was lit up. But here with this American carrier and these planes were coming from Europe,

European bases and landing on aircraft carriers, I guess they were being refueled, then flying in

because Israel was losing due to Sam 3s and Sam 6s, a lot of their phantom jets. But my point

was a NATO power and would not let a fellow NATO power use their home soil and use that base.

And guess what? Meanwhile, the Russians announced to the Greeks that they were going to fly over

Greek airspace and supply the Egyptians. And it was just, it was just crazy, you know, why are we

allowing, and why are we allowing this to happen? Well, Nixon was crippled because of water

gate that was starting to come up. And so Spain is doing the same, and it happened again with

Reagan, with the bombing of Libya. They used the F11s and they were told based in Britain and they

would not allow them even to fly over Europe, much less to be, to use a base there, it'd have been

much easier to go from Europe, obviously, but they wouldn't let them. And so now they're telling us,

you can't use the Diego Garcia airfields, which would have been handy for a big bomber.

But, on second thought, because you're doing pretty well now, and they did attack Cyprus,

which is a British base, we'll let you use it, but it will only be for defensive purposes,

whatever that means. That was the British government. And then the Spanish government said,

you're not going to use this NATO base in our heart. And Trump said, we can of course use it if we

wanted, and if you want to try to stop us. But the question then is, Spain thinks with this

socialist government, very anti-American, the Spanish people, I think, are pro-American, although

they pull about like, well, they, and it's funny, if you wouldn't be surprised about

popularity of America in Europe, you would think that Italians would be anti-American,

French, the two greatest anti-American countries are Spain and Germany, especially Germany,

and the highest are Italy, France, and Britain. But Britain's, I don't think,

and according to pupils I've seen, is not as favorably inclined toward the United States as

Italy is. And Greece is getting up there, so it's got a better appraisal of us. So, what do you

do about that? And then they've also said, we're not going to, we're not going to arm to 5%.

They should just say to them, if you're not going to arm to 5%, and this rogue

theocracy that's threatened everybody in Europe, and we're not asking you to help, we're just saying

that we have planes here that we'd like to use, and you're so scared of your Muslim population,

which they're going to let in 500,000 illegal aliens and give them a right to vote. You can see

that what's in the mind of the left, I don't mean in Spain, I mean the universal western,

that's what Biden did, only wasn't stupid enough to say so, like they did. And so my

point is, how do you stop that? I think what you should just do is just say, okay,

we're not going to, we're not going to be there anymore, just get out, and then we should

go say to the polls or the checks, hey, we've got 50 planes or 40 planes, we've got a big

budget here, it's help your comment, we're going to go there, and we'll tell the British,

you're socialist, they're social, you patrol Gibraltar. We're done with you, not that we're,

it's not still allies. Same thing with Canada, Karni, it's just crazy. He invited in the,

he basically said that we're medium-sized powers, and we can't be subject to the dictates of

the United States, it's what he said, and then we're going to have a closer, basically he said,

we're going to have closer ties with it, the United States rival, which is a bloodthirsty,

one million, eight Wagers and camps, forced abortions, you know, genocidal state,

and that's what he said, and then he kind of backed down, and then he gave a speech that was

just incoherent. The rules-based order, I'm so worried about the rules-based order. The United

States is violating the rules, but what do you think Iran was doing when they killed 30,000 people?

Well, you know, we, we condemn Iran, but we also don't like what the United States is doing,

you know, and then, you know, everybody thinks Trump is crazy and brash, and what, what,

understood him, he sized him up as a globalist who had citizenship in three countries,

and was about as Canadian as I am, although he helped him get elected by

trash in the conservatives, but the point is, he should just say, you know what,

there's going to be, in the next years, there's going to be a lot of danger from China.

And Russia, and I wanted to, you can see what Spain did. I didn't trust these European

NATO members to protect the West, so that's why I wanted Greenland. I wanted to put a big fat

base up there near the Arctic Circle and knock down missiles coming straight over into Western

continent. They didn't want that, and you can see Spain doesn't, you can't trust them.

And then he should say to Canada, you know what, we're going to make a big golden dome,

and if you think we don't follow the rules based or, I don't blame you, just check out, check out.

I don't think they don't drop Spain out of NATO if it can't ante it, but 5%.

You know, well, that's the suggested, they just made, I think they just barely made their 2%.

And it was too bad because, you know, it's been a very good ally the United States. I think it was

the Salazar government. I can't remember his name. He was a conservative that sent troops to Iraq,

and that cost him his political career. Anybody, you know, I was in Barcelona two years ago.

I never seen such an economic boom. I mean, you couldn't go to a hotel. Everything was just

packed. It's a beautiful country. You know, I've been there maybe five or six times, high-speed rail,

everything. It's just very impressive, but it wasn't impressive because of the socialists.

It was impressive because you had conservative free market governments in the past, and you don't

know. This isn't even a socialist government there. It's a communist government, and it really

thinks it really likes to tempt ridicule the United States. And I don't think they understand,

when Trump, he doesn't care. Somebody will come in, you know, some bureaucrat or general,

President Trump, that these bases are absolutely crucial to the NAR. You know, they are. They

have, since we've located in the Mediterranean, we use them for 500 times a month. We can't,

we can't lose them. He can just say, so I'll let them deal with it. We'll save money.

Yeah, I don't think those European nations have really quite gotten over, not the United States

not deferring to them post-World War II as much as they would like.

I think everybody, this should be a wake-up call to everyone that, when Trump says you can't trust

that Europeans, or they're not pony-nob or they're free-loat, okay, that's what that term,

by the way, free-writer came from Obama. Then you see you get in a crunch, and you would think

the British government, given that we came to their aid in 1917, we came to their aid in 1942.

You would think the British would say, and by the way, during the Falklands War, when Fatcher

wanted to have intelligence and logistical supply to take the war to Argentina,

when the United States had a big Latino population, and we were trying to deal with

Galatari, the dictator, the British said, look, we're a NATO member, and we had Hague who was

openly pro, the Secretary of State at that time. He was openly pro-Argentina. Reagan said,

no, we have a special relationship with Britain. The United States did all it could without

rupturing relations with its own backyard. Everybody from the tip of Chile to the southern

border of the United States was fanatic pro-Argentina. I was farming at the time, and I was out

with about 50 Hispanic people, and we were doing the raisin harvest, and I was driving a tractor

with five guys to pick up the raisin craze. And every five minutes, a victor.

Hey, those gringles are going to lose, man. They're going to lose. Argentina is going to

cream the man. I said, how much do you want to bet? I said, I will take five dollar bets from

each of the four guys. And they said, oh, you're so stupid. I said, do you know anything about

Tralfaulgar? What's that? I said, it's the British naval tradition. Do you know anything about

Waterloo, the Duke, the Duke, Arthur Wellesley? Do you know anything about the psalm? Do you know

anything about the British military tradition? You don't. They will not, and do you know anything

about Margaret Thatcher, the iron woman that the Russians can't stand? She will not stop. And

they're going to go in there, and they're not like Americans. Once they start to do stuff, they'll

start sinking. They built, they blew up the Belgrano. You know, a big World War II type cruiser.

And they killed hundreds of people. They just demolished that. And they were thinking, I mean,

they had subs there that had nuclear weapons on them. And they were, they had no limitations.

And it was all over this little Faulkland thing. You know, I was on their side, of course. And

you wouldn't believe how these people, the guys, there's a guy named Antonio. He's a really

hard worker. And he said, uh, Vic, they're, you're going to lose your all your money. Let's double

the bet. I said $10. So then when they lost about two weeks later, I took the, the $20, $30 from

them. And I went in town, and I bought a five, six packs of Coke, Dr. Pepper, no beer, because

they were working. And I gave it to them. And I went to a restaurant called Sal's and bought about

30 tacos and enchiladas. And we all ate. And then it was like, oh, wow, you're right. But

Argentinians, you know, Victor, I saw the TV, they're white. I said, you got a point there,

they're German and Italian. And so they're not real Mexican. But my point is that that was a

tough decision for the United States with a Latino population. And everybody in its own back,

yard for Argentina to, to have these mystical ties of brotherhood with the British. And here's

this socialist storm. And what's he do? You can't use Diego. I go up Garcia, because unless you're

doing defensive operations, so a pilot's in an F-16 and he's flying over and he's going to say,

I'm going to take out this missile launcher that's going to launch in one minute and hit Israel,

or hit a base and gutter. Is that an offensive operation? Or I'm going to take out this kernel

who's going to order these people to take it. It's silly. This guy isn't idiot. It's all

definitive. What does death to America mean? I mean, it's all defensive at that point, right?

He has a Muslim population, but it's only about seven or eight percent. Still, it's getting big.

It's big in the big cities, but in Europe, I know Germany has 16 percent, but it's still they

still are not at a tipping point where they could say they're afraid of Muslim demonstrations. And

then they're just ignorant because here you have the whole Gulf States. And they're all pro-American

right now because they've all been hit. I mean, I think they've sent something like 500 or 600

drones against the Emirates and Oman. And all these people who have been all year long

calling Trump up and saying, hey, present Trump, you got to hit Iran. If you're going to go there,

you've got to finish a job this time. But don't get mad. I'm going to call for both sides to be

reasonable. And I'm going to say that this is very destructive for the fragile conditions and

atmosphere and architecture of the Muslim Middle East. So don't get mad. And that's what they did.

Yes. And in fact, some of some of the people who have been anti-Trump in the United States

have the same approach. But let's get to those after I said, well,

I just make before you go ahead. Yeah, before I go to our sponsor.

Well, I didn't write very many op-eds. I only wrote for David Osman. And believe it not Max Boot,

he was a very good editor at the Wall Street Journal. But David Osman was a very good,

and in the 90s, I wrote op-eds for them. But maybe, I don't know, once every five months or something.

But so I was cognizant of the punditry. But I remember the

pre-eminence and the conservative movement of Bill Crystal. He was on Sunday TV with George

Will every weekend. He was Dan Quayle's brain, they called him. He was co-founder with Robert

Kagan, I think, of the project for the New American Century for Reeds the Card. They were all

these realists who were in favor of pre-emptive warfare. I couldn't understand. This was,

I support Iraq, but it was only post-9-11. This was before 9-11. They wanted to go in because

that no fly zones hadn't worked. It had been seven or eight years. They wanted to go in and preemptively

change the whole Middle East. Invade it, get rid of a half-fessal Assad, get rid of Saddam Hussein,

maybe even get rid of the Saudi knows, and then make it a democratic neocon thing. And there was

going to be some guy from, I don't know, East Palestine, Ohio, who was going to go away to places

like that. Then he went, and then when he offered his services to the new Trump people,

when he's new, the Trump was going to win. And he was an ever-Trumper in that failed. Remember,

David French was going to be their candidate for a while. It was just a circus. And then they got

wiped out. Then people like him and others quietly under the radar said they were willing to

volunteer their genius, and they were roundly refuted. So then he went with left-wing money to

the bulwark. And it's just a parade of anti-Trump things. So I was looking at the other day.

And I remember, correct me if I'm wrong listeners, but during the protest, when Trump said help is on

the way, he said something to the fact, well, you would like to attack ice people, your own people

in Minnesota, but you won't help those people on the street. Meaning, I hate you, but I'm not,

I'm still a neocon at heart. We should be going over there and intervening. And so then there's

Trump does that. And of course, Trump, when he said help is on the way, what he meant was, I need

two carriers and about 50 ships and I need a thousand planes, because I'm going to really take this

out, not like last time. But of course, they didn't care about the truth. So then he just tweeted

something about how awful Donald Trump was by going into Iran. Can you believe that?

After he told the United States for his whole life, his whole life, he said, preemptive war to

change the regime to bring peace and prosperity and capitalism and liberty and democracy to those

who deserve it. And we need to spend our blood and treasure. And we did it in Afghanistan and Iraq.

And now Trump's not doing it. And he said help. And then whatever. And that sums up the never

Trump movement. They're so obsessed and deranged it. Anything that is good for the United States,

if he's if Trump's for it, they're against it. And anything that

videates or refutes their entire philosophy, their whole life, they're willing to do that,

if it's opposite to what Trump says. And that's what's really bizarre about it.

It points to a general soluseness of those ex-neocons, I guess.

Well, I mean, there were so many of them. If you think just, gosh,

all during the 90s and the early two at the millennium, all you heard was,

Robert Kagan. And I knew his dad who was a saint, Donald Kagan. But there was Robert Kagan,

and there was Bill Crystal. And there was Elliot Cohen and Max Boot and David From, right?

And John Bolton, these were all the people that we were supposed to get wisdom from. And they all

turned out, they all either voted for Hillary or they voted for a third party and they'd surely

voted for Biden. And Max Boot was on TV the other day. I knew him very well. I was very friendly,

but he was on making a case for why we have to oppose what Trump's doing and around.

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Hanson show. Victor, since we were on the left, I would like to ask you about George Will, who also

was one of these Neocons that went anti-Trump. He recently wrote an article that made these points

that they really, the Ayatollah and his lot really meant, quote, death to America. They really

meant Israel was a, quote, one bomb country. And that now he's on Trump's side. Trump's war is

according to Will, a necessary beginning to a peaceful world. And he even looks back at Bush, Obama

and Biden that had all this goodwill about Iran and goodwill has achieved nothing. So George Will

has thrown the dice, I mean, or thrown his lot in with Trump recently. And that is a huge change

for him. I give credit to him. I knew George Will very well. I was on a board with him.

And I was disappointed. I wasn't disappointed that he, he voices opposition. Trump, that's fine.

I have no problem with people I disagree with. But in many cases, he wasn't like the bulwark people

or the others. He stayed conservative. But a lot of his positions that he had held in the

conservative context, he no longer held if Trump's fingerprints were on them. But this is a,

this is really good. I really admire him because what he basically is saying is all of the people

that I'm sure he voted for Biden. But all the people that I had supported in the past

were wrong. And the person I despised was right. And here's why. And that's a principled position.

So I give him credit. There's a larger issue. And that is people that I knew very well. And I

still know some of them in the MAGA movement are now. I think Tucker, as we've said,

said that this was an evil and disgusting attack that Trump did. And then of course,

Marjorie Taylor Green got very, she voiced that and Steve Bannon. And Megan Kelly, whom I really

like and I've been on her show a lot. But she attacked Trump. And then she, she had attack,

I think today or yesterday on Sean Hannity, whom I know and like a lot and said that he was

too raw raw for Trump. But I think everybody has to take a step back and just to ask empirically,

is this in the interest of the United States, not Israel, not anybody, I'll just look at, is it

in the interest of the United States? And could you make an argument that because Trump says he

does everything in the interest of the United States, let's look at it. First of all, if you count

up all the people and I don't believe and I don't think anybody believes the 500 people who were

killed in the Iraq war by shape charges and they even shipped them to Afghanistan. There were more

like 2000 and there were hundreds, if not thousands of maimed Americans, why Iran was shipping

these deadly IEDs and I don't know why George W. Bush didn't stop it. But I guess he didn't want to,

you know, escalate another theater, but they blew up the, there are people blew up the

Kobort hours. They blew up the two embassies. They blew up the Beirut embassy. They blew up the

Marine barracks. They sent assassinations to, they were trying to kill Pompeo, they were trying

to kill John Bolton. They were trying to kill Trump. They tried to kill the Saudi ambassador.

They blew up a bunch of Jewish people in Argentina. They kidnapped Americans. They butchered them.

Every time we tried to say, okay, let's have a detente with them, somebody. Bush said, okay,

we're not going to go after you. And Obama then took it to the extreme of insanity where he said,

basically, I'm tired of Israel and the Sunni monarchies and I want to balance them with this

theocracy because they're Persians and they're Shia and they're the underdogs and he basically

welcomed a Shia crescent of Iran and Syria and Lebanon and Hezbollah and Hamas to create

tension and then he would adjudicate. There'd be no moral difference from this regime that

hangs young girls who expose their head or doesn't have a scarf on or shoots homosexuals with

Israel. So my point is we had a lot, this, this, this war has been going on and on and on.

And if the reports are right and I think it's demonstrable because it fits the character of a

rant, they said to them, we will provide you with fishable material. We'll keep track of it.

It will only be enriched to a certain area but you have to stop your centrifuges and enrichment.

And they said, why would we do that? We have 450 killed, we have enough to make 11 bombs right now,

we can do what we want. And does anybody really believe that if they get the bomb

that they won't, I don't know where they'll use it or not, but they will say to their neighbors,

the Saudis, everybody where 40% of the world's oil comes from. You're going to do this and you're

going to do this because we're crazy and we want to go to paradise. So we're going to nuke you

and then they will have a ballistic, they almost have one now, they can hit anywhere in Europe or

they can say the United States, well, you, we want to go to paradise and we only have 11 or 12 bombs

that we can take out London, Paris, we can, we might even be able to take out San Francisco or

Los Angeles. And if this is in the future, do you really want that regime that's been there for

45 years as a thorn in the world side, not ours the world, okay. And Mr. Rothen Johnny,

who's the big cook, the criminal former prime minister, whatever we want to call him, he's now

thinking of coming back. He was the one allegedly who said that Israel was a one bomb state.

Others have said it was good that Israel was created because you got half the world Jews in one

place. So with all of that, would we be there after October 7th had not occurred? No, we were not

going to go in there. October 7th. Donald Trump's first term, he did not do that. He came in the

second time and he saw what has been law and Hamas and the who these were doing on the prompt of

Iran and he said to himself, my God, you don't even have a red sea anymore. You can't navigate through

the red sea because it's too expensive. It's a seven million dollar patriot missile to knock down

a, you know, 30,000 dollar drone and they're just stopping all traffic. You can't even get to

Suez. And then he said, oh my gosh, you can't, they're controlling their streets of her moves.

Oh my God. And then he said, oh my gosh, they attacked Israel out of nowhere. It was they who

attacked them. Hamas and his blah and the who these can't do anything unless they get supplies

and money from Iran. So take away October 7th and that's not saying that we're doing something for

Israel. It's what we're saying is that they were funding terrorism at a level that was geopolitical

geostrategia. It was all over the world they were having operatives Latin America. So Donald

Trump said, I will do a limited one off. I did a one off with Soleimani. And I said, this guy killed

our people in Iraq. I want him dead because he was trying to do it again to bases in Syria and Iraq.

And he did. And then the Iranian said, and Trump said, you can have a one off performance or attack.

And there were some people who got wounded with traumatic stress from the bomb, but nobody got

killed. And Trump said, that's it. So he was willing to do that just like he did with Baghdad. He

just like he did with the Wagner group one off. And then he gave him a one off. He got in. He said,

I'm going to take out these nuclear facilities. And he did. And the question did it was indisputable

that he destroyed the ability to make new nuclear weapons for a long time. But did he get the

fishable material? That was a big he didn't know where it was. No stuff. They'd already processed.

And now they're bragging that they already had it. And they're basically telling the

negotiators, we don't really care what you say because we have it. And at some time you'll be dead

and Trump will be out of office. And you'll get somebody like, I don't know Bernie Sanders or you

get AOC. And when you get that person in there, we will give you a hypersonic warning about a

nuclear weapon. And when you say that classical deterrence works, we're going to be crazy

within the North Koreans. You're having a problem with the North Koreans because you think

they're crazy, but they're not as crazy as we are. And craziness is in the bandage and nuclear

poker. So that's where why he did that. He didn't do it on the

prompt of Israel to take away October 7th. And it wouldn't we wouldn't even be there.

It was just an occasion where everybody's thought this, this nation is out of control. And

it was a reckoning. And then nobody in the right mind, the other thing about it was, and I'll be

frank, everybody thought that they were, they looked at all those videos of those goose stepping,

Nazi-like soldiers, you know, and all that shouting death to America. And they remembered the

hostages and they saw all the terrorism and all of the Hezbollah stuff. And they said,

these guys are terrifying. And then you would read Hezbollah, one day you would read, Hezbollah

has 80,000 missiles. No, they have 120, 140. And then you'd say, the Houthis, they have 50,

50,000 drones and missiles. And there's a ring of fire around Israel, a ring of fire, they're

paralyzed. And now Iran has over 100,000. They're just unbeatable. And so what happened,

that whole thing vanished last year when they completely destroyed the defenses of Iran and

revealed it as a paper tiger, an inept, incompetent, theocratic mess that can't do anything to anybody

when there's a real war. Only during peace can they scare people. And only if they have the bomb.

So Trump came to the conclusion, I don't want any more terrorism in that area. You get rid of these

people and Iran will be a free country that people will not be shot, starved, wiped out.

But more importantly, it's in our interest. There'll be free flowing oil to Europe, the Saudis,

and all these people will probably disown Hamas, Hezbollah will be broke, the Houthis will be broke.

And I'm going to do it. And it's in our interest. And we won't have to, I'm not going to pass it

on to the next administration. Because eventually, if you do, you'll get an Obama 2.0.

No. Yeah. And he'll kill, cut a deal with them. Yeah. And that's a frightening day.

$200 million at night on a pallet. Yes. So Trump is really doing everybody a favor in

not just America. It's in every. And it's not going to have any ground troops. I don't think

people have any ground troops. I think it'll be over in three weeks. And we've had tragically

lost six people. But it's not going to be 4,000 like Iraq or Afghanistan. It's not going to be

a humiliation like the Skadawals from Afghanistan. So I, I don't know why, you know, when,

when Tucker said that, and I like to, I knew him very well. So I'm not trying to just fixate on him.

But when he said that the first incursion would lead to World War 3 in 30,000 or dead or something,

and that didn't happen, wouldn't you be more circumspect about editorializing about the

second round? And he said, it's disgusting and evil. Well, he's basically telling Donald

Trump that you're disgusting and evil. So, and he went into the White House reportedly three

times to persuade him. So this is another problem. And that is

that wing, I don't think represents the mega base. If you look at the polls, it's about

50, 50 now, according to the latest poll about Americans in general. And the Republicans are,

I don't know, 60, 40, 70, 30. And I don't know where the mega base would go in the midterms,

but they would be insane to sit out and turn it over to the socialist communist Democrats.

So I don't know what their strategy is if there is one politically, and then you have people

who are going to say and do things that are going to be embarrassing to other people. If you have,

and you're going to talk about that, I guess, Candace Owens, new,

what documentary on Charlie Kirk's wife? Yeah, the bride of Charlie Kirk. And she's basically in

the documentary is calling her a liar. Calling her bride of Frankenstein? Yeah, basically,

that's the, just to the name and the, she's, and she's saying that she's lied about a lot of things

in the documentary. So I don't know what value there is in it, but. This is what I don't understand.

And I know her, I've met her before, not well, but you name that Candace Owens. And I,

I think the American people to the degree they know over, they only know about four things.

She was the one that said that the moon operation never happened. She was the one that said the

Mossad likely killed Charlie Kirk. She was the one that likely insinuated. I'm just saying, just

throwing it out there, that maybe Charlie Kirk's wife was involved. Is that it?

I haven't seen this documentary, but I, from reading about it, it sounds like more that she's

talking about all the things she claims that Erica Kirk has lied about. And I don't know if that's

one of them. What's the purpose of that? I getting Erica Kirk and getting clicks. I think she's,

a lot of your readers think that Tucker and Candace are both clickbait freaks. And that's their

what they are. But there was a time when Candace Owens didn't do that. And Tucker, if you go back

on his appearances on Fox, he was a little bit more mega right than the other people were more

mega. But even he got angry at Trump and said he didn't like, I just test tone Trump after

January 6th. But he wasn't there were guidelines. I mean, he used to go out to UFOs and stuff,

but there were guidelines rail that he operated them. And he was very successful. He had the highest

race show. And she was very popular. They, they, and then that kind of blew up. She kind of had a

falling out with Charlie Kirk. And he was left, he left Fox. I was let go. And then they went

independent. So what I'm getting at is their move into that new territory is co-terminus with

their independent reliance on what entrepreneurial clicks. And so I don't know. I mean, we could say

things on here that would be clickbait, but what would be the purpose of it? Do you think that

they have a constituency that they're after the two of them that there's some sort of anti-Semitic,

I don't know. She's got some strange theories Candace Owens. Well, so does Tucker on UFOs and

things like that? Well, when he says that Jews should take a DNA test or something. As I said last

time, there was a person who wanted a DNA test. That was Erdogan. And he was getting tired of

history books. He said that said that modern Turkey, Asia Minor had been the province of the West.

Greeks first in the classical, classical period. And then later Roman, Anatolia, and then the

Byzantine Empire, which was the Greek language, the Orthodox religion, and the protector of the

legacy of Rome for a thousand years. So he did a 21 in me genetic test. I think of 1,500 Turks

to see to show everybody they were Turk. And then they disappeared because I think there's

something like 71%, the major DNA was Greek. So I don't, the other thing is when you're talking

about Israel, which was formed post holocaust. And it was the historic home of the Jews.

And you had yellow stars on Jews. And you had an elaborate genealogy department of the Nazi

aparat. So that if you were a Nazi hierarchy, and you were in a rivalry with another Nazi division,

what everybody did was say, my, my Führer, he had a Jewish grandmother.

My Führer, well, he had a Jewish cousin, or he's one eight Jewish. So they had to solve that

quote unquote problem. So they had people that they didn't have DNA, but they had the

1930s and 40s equivalent of it. They had master genealogists. And so when you say that you want Jews

to take a DNA test, there's a historical burden there for you from the beginning. And you should

be very, any DNA test like that. Somebody's going to write in and say, well, Victor,

you said that you're in a holding pattern because they took out your cancerous tumor. And then

they took the DNA of it. And now they checked your blood to see if it's circulating. You have to

have this every four months. So you'd like DNA tests. Tumors aren't people. No, they aren't.

Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and talk about a few things

and going on in the United States. Stay with us and we'll be right back.

Welcome back. This is Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. And you can find Victor at X. His

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social media outlets, please join him there. So there's a few stories that I thought were

interesting this week. The, the, the, I don't know what you call there. They're like journalists,

but they're also based in social media. So Andy, no, whatever he is, whatever name you get,

internet influencers. And I met him. I met him once. Yes. And he, he's, he always does some

really great investigative on the right. He's very brave. I saw him in a Denver hotel and was

surrounded. I was speaking in a conservative summit. And he happened to be there. And they heard

about it. And the Antifa thugs surrounded the hotel and wouldn't let anybody enter out. And

then police did nothing. I looked out the window and they were jumping on police cars. And then

I, I was getting a car to go to the airport. So the guy called me and said, I'm not getting near

there. That driver. So he said, you've got to sneak out. So I went down to, I went down to the

basement. And then I talked to one of the concierge people. And he let me out in the alley or whatever.

And then I walked around and I said to the Antifa, what are you, what are you doing? And we're out,

you were out here after Andrew and Andy know. Oh, God. We're going to lynch him. Well, he's,

I know his, his very brave person. He's very brave. And he's got a current thing. He didn't take

the video here, but he did place it on his site of a UCSF administrator. So that's the University

of California, San Francisco administrator or the state college. She was in something called

Transgender. It wasn't San Francisco state. It wasn't stand for San Francisco state. No, it wasn't.

It was UCS. So it was the University of California medical branch there. Yeah, there is. I think

she's part of it, but like an admin, you know what I mean? Like a HR, yeah, HR, human resources.

And she came up to a protester who was protesting against minors, getting operations as probably

most of our audience is against as well. And she said to this protester, I'm going to hunt you

down and F blank, F and blank. Anyways, kill you. And boom, she, so I was wondering your thoughts

on that we've got these crazies in these very important positions. Five years ago, I would have

thought 10 years ago, I thought, wow, that just I don't think that anymore. Not after they tried

to take out the Republican leadership and wounded in Mames, Representative Scalise, not after

the both assassins who shot Trump were leftist, not after Luigi Mangione, not after Charlie Kirk,

not after the protest I see on campus, you know, anti-Semitism and stuff. There was a

Stanford email that was addressed to Jewish students just recently on campus.

So no, I, and remember, it's Jasmine Crockett and all these people said it's white, white, white,

it's white, white, no, it's not. It is people on the left. And D.I. people and these care,

I can use that term, Karen. Yeah. So it's, but the, the tie that binds them are that they're all

on the left and they feel that they have no political power. They don't have the Supreme Court,

they don't have the house, they don't have the Senate. They only have about 40% of the state

legislatures. They don't have the presidency and they don't have people that are normal that

when everybody says who's going to be the candidate, you're going to get a pathological liar

and a guy who ruined California or you're going to get a retread word salad like Kamala Harris,

who are you going to get? So they're frustrated and then they closed the border and those

were their new constituents that should be forever thankful that you brought me from Mojaka and

you gave me housing and food and health care and all this free and, and that stopped. And

they're frustrated. So now what they do is they threaten people and I mean, I get these angry

leaders that are just nuts. Somebody said, I wrote, I have one on there now that I answered

and he said he wanted me to walk off up here and disappear and somebody wrote and said,

these are AI. Matt, no, it wasn't AI. I saw the email. It was not AI. So they're crazy people.

You have to take them seriously. Absolutely. Well, just one thing before we get to the Clinton's

testifying before Congress, just in that same vein, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled

on a law in California that prevented schools from telling parents about their children,

transgendering that they blocked that law. What was that all about? It was Hillary Clinton that

takes a village, right? You don't own your children. The village does. Takes a village to raise a

kid. They're going to, in 20 years, or it's going to be like Thalidamai, you know, that drug that

made all those birth defects. Well, they're going to look back at this transgender thing and they're

going to say, oh my God, we were, we were moving the breast. We were implanting fallacies on women.

We were cutting off testicle. We were maiming and injuring people who were on steroids and hormones

and antidepressants and anxiety agents. And we didn't really, it was all a political movement.

This was going to be our new civil rights thing that gave us a chance to get back on the street

and represent the oppressed. And we used these young kids, who some of whom suffered from

age-old gender dysphoria, but the majority didn't. And we made them. And that's going to be

something that a lot of people are not going to ever live down. Yeah, like the Sultan creating

his unit corps. Well, people, by the way, you know, when I wrote the end of everything, I read very

carefully about the Unix and the Haram. They, they tended to favor black Unix from Africa.

And they castrated them. And about, as I remember, the data, 30% of them survived.

And the people should remember that the Islamic slave trade, it wasn't just 11 million and we had

in the West had 11 million. It was like 16 million. And castration and Harams were much more brutal.

I mean, it was a horrible institution. And the people in the West that brought slaves to the

Western hemisphere were culpable. But nobody ever came to, they came to terms with that.

Nobody ever came to terms with the Islamic slave trade, even today they don't. And this whole that

when, when people say that there's Christianity and gutter and they have churches, they're talking

about an on-play of 400,000 Christians from India or Sri Lanka or Indonesia. And they can't carry

a Bible outside. They can't build a church outside. And whatever religious buildings they have

have to be sanctioned by the government. And if they go to a friend's house who's a Muslim and

hand him a Bible and say, I think you should convert both of them or subject to capital punishment.

Almost all the gold. So they don't get it.

Now they sure don't. Well, I had last thing that very prominent in the news were the Clintons both

testified before the investigator committee on Jeffrey Epstein. And I was wondering if you had

any thoughts on that? Anybody saw that? You'll know why Bill Clinton escaped the

whole Monica Lewinsky thing, even though he said it depends on what is, is, is. And I never had

sex with that. Well, I never did. I never had sex with that woman. But he escaped it. And you can

see why they were both there and why everybody hated Hillary. She was contrived. She was grouchy.

She screamed. She yelled. She attacked the question. And she got up in the huff and left because

represented Bob it had taken a picture. And then they were going to film it anyway. I don't know

when they released it. But she came across as a very unlikable person. And her whole, but they had

the goods on him. It got like 27 flights. And there's pictures of him giving, you know,

back rubs. And he's in a pool. And he was just, I don't know what happened there. I never

had been attracted to younger women. At least younger than I am. I mean, you think,

well, Monica was your age and all the rest of them capping Willie. And maybe she was. And then,

and then he, they give him the file with pictures and everything. And right in front of the

committee, he's looking at it. You can see, oh, wow. It's like he's wants to say, I forgot

those good old days. And then that, that very good lawyer, she grabs it from him and takes it away

in front of everybody. And he's like, what the, let me take a look at that. Like, he started taking

licking his fingers to flip the pages. Oh, well, and he's, he's laughing. And then they were

asking these really sharp, self-incriminating for to him questions and getting really, and he

didn't get angry. Well, I didn't, I don't know. I just want to say one thing. I don't think,

I don't think that Donald Trump, I talked on Trump. And you can see how his mind works. It's like,

if anything's bad, these people are all Republicans and they're all mega people. And there's a DOJ

that's Trump. And when I, when I say that Donald Trump is exempted from any suggestion,

and he said, I don't have friends with Donald Trump, but I just, it was really a masterful performance,

even though he was a show of his former self. I was, you know, he used to have such a strong voice

and everything. And I know he's had heart problems. And I've had this, you know, this anemia and

all I thought, well, Mike, do I sound like him now? And that's, is that my future? I hope not yet.

Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Calm Rodden.

Yeah, it was funny to watch, Bill. Especially he took the whole thing as a trip through

memory. I didn't like him as a politician. I didn't vote for him. I thought he, I did think he did

good things. Some of them, not a lot, but bounce the budget, et cetera. He was bad on foreign

balls, but he was kind of like Jerry Brown. You can't dislike them. I like Jerry Brown,

because he was witty. You know what I mean? And he was off the wall. And he would, he was really,

and there were some things he did that were good. And the, and the tradition of his father. But

Bill Clinton, who is a different type than Jerry Brown, but when I'm trying to get out, there were

Democrats like that. You know what I mean? That were reasonable. You can see that he was

Tip O'Neill, you know, and a whole Reagan thing. And they're not there anymore.

No, the crazies have come out. Well, Victor, we're at the end of the podcast. And so we want to

look at some of the comments from this time I went to YouTube. And there's a few that were very

short here that are kind of representative of the comments. Broadly, Dave King, 9393 said,

I love starting my day with Victor. You kind of imagine how many people on your comments say,

ah, this beginning of the day with Victor is great. And then Harold Richards, 1932 said,

this is the best podcast out there. I want everybody to know that. Thank you from Terabon,

Oregon. And then a few that were more, a little bit more lengthy. Doc Blah Locke says,

I'm a vet. And I've been watching and reading your content for a very long time. But never

commented before. I wanted to, I wanted you to know for what it's worth that you have been a

constant source of knowledge, wisdom and peace to me. Thank you. And that's these again,

a representative. Lots of people are saying that Mary Price K1P, Victor Davis Hanson is brilliant.

Always has the stats to go to back up his opinions and is so very gracious. Geopolitically,

he is on point all the time. And from Page Sullivan, 6906, I so much love the Selma in Victor Hanson.

He is a common man with an uncommon mind and spirit. You are a leader for us, for all of us,

Dr. Hanson. You make us see that a common, common exterior can house the most complex brilliant

human minds and personalities. I pray for you every day and tell everyone I know about you.

And that's the other thing that's very broad across all your comments,

pictures that people are praying for you. So that's, I want to get well for everybody. I'm

trying my best. Did anybody get a secret sleep formula? Not yet. Not yet. I only slept four hours

because it's, I think a part of it's surgical pain, but it's the heart. It's weird.

What was my strength? My heart. I don't mean in a spirit. I mean, in a nice sense. I mean,

in a mechanical sense. All right. And then T Lindsey, 1007, thank you, Victor, Dr. Hanson,

sorry, for putting this crazy world into perspective with knowledge, intelligence, wisdom,

and your interesting life experiences along with some good humor. The boat story is hilarious.

And then this is what I liked about this comment. PS, I'm a lefty. My handwriting is terrible.

So I won't be writing you a letter in cursive's LOL. I'm going to, we have about 800 or 900

letters that have come. And I'm going through every one of them. And I cannot believe it.

The handwriting, it's just beautiful. And they're, they're so well written. Not a grammatical

mistake. It's a whole generation of people who, a lot of them are from the inland areas of

California, or upstate New York, or the Midwest, or the South. So they are, I mean, they're really

an exceptional group. And they have all these stories that I read about. I read, I talked about

20 a night. You know, I was in Korea, choice on reservoir. I'm 87. And I just had my second

cancer tumor. I'm too grouchy to die. And don't worry, Victor. My wife and I had two cancer

operations at Stanford. We're still kicking. They're very, they're very, you said about Selma,

just, and I think I mentioned at once that when I graduated with a PhD, I got done very quickly.

And I would, there were no jobs in 1980. And my grandmother was living here. So I moved in with

my grandmother and my crippled, oh, she had just died. And I tried to help on the farm for what

I thought would be a summer. But there was like 17 jobs in the United States and there were 4,000

people applying for them. So I was, so I think I mentioned, but I, there was a very prominent

classicist. And he was the main person that wrote, and he wrote something. And this guy at the

Naval Academy said, I'd like to hire you, but I need to look at what he wrote. And so I had it sent

to Hanson Enterprises. And it was so funny because he said, he raced through the exams. I thought

that would be good, didn't you? You know, bam, bam, there's 12 of them, you know, Greek literature,

Greek history, Roman history, Greek composition, Roman Latin composition, or he raced through the exam

as if they were hurdles. They were hurdles. As if he, he wasn't comfortable being here when

we were trying to create a scholar, but his, this is what I'm getting out, his somewhat rustic

and rural background prevented him from appreciating the full range of intellectualism.

And therefore, while we are very impressed with his philology and knowledge,

we're a little concerned that he would be problematic for a higher in your department. And so

he didn't know that I read that. So I came back and I couldn't get a job. So I happened to bump into

him. And I said, he didn't know that I'd looked at it. So I said, what is, do you think I'm a rustic?

And he said, yes. And I said, what would that mean? He said, well, you obviously never grew up

speaking French or German. You knew there were requirements for a class. I said, yeah, I studied

in my past exam, both of them. I can read in both of them. And he said, yeah, that's not the point.

And I said, what is the point? He said, the point is to be able to speak it, to go to international

symposium and conversion French, and to go to the opera and maybe know some Italian. And you

never went to a Sunday opera. You weren't intellectual. You have no idea of classical music.

And I said, you know the difference between an eight in and a nine in. And he said, no. And I said,

they, I am pretty sure the eight in didn't have the fully automatic PTO. But how about the nine in

and the Jubilee? You know what a difference a tracker has when it has overhead valves.

That was my grandfather's greatest moment when he bought it forward Jubilee with overhead valve valve.

And he said, I don't have any idea what you're talking about. I am not interested.

So I was a rustic, but I tried to smooth. He said that here we're here to smooth your rough edges.

I'm not making fun of them because they were marvelous generation of philologists. I really

learned Latin and Greek from both of them. But they were that year there was a kid from the

steel mills of Pennsylvania, Jeff Sellers. And he laughed, but he was from the lower middle classes

working. And there was a brilliant guy mentioned before Lawrence Woodlock, who had been a green

beret and Vietnam. And there it was me. And when they looked at three, they didn't know who we were.

They just looked at our files when they admitted it. They just, we are never going to do this at

Stanford, let in a former green beret that worked with a monk who was wounded and was be meveled

heroic, a true American hero, who was a philological genius and a guy from the steel mills

around Cleveland and a guy from a farmer or South at Fresno. They just, and we kind of played up

that too. We were just, yeah. And so it probably never happened again. I don't think it ever happened

again. I think they thought that this was, oh man, we can't do this. This is the end of the time.

Well, Victor, thank you very much. And thank you to the audience for joining us on this Saturday

or the any day after that that you choose to join us. Thank you, Victor.

Thank you very much for listening and viewing. Yeah. And this is Samueline,

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