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whole state is a sanctuary state that ICE is a fascist organization that he won't cooperate

with federal immigration law enforcement and so that there are going to be criminals in

Chicago system that are here illegally thousands of them and he won't turn them over.

Their supporters all say well it's not a criminal offense to enter the United States it actually

is but if it was just a civil offense that would mean that we can just drive 80 miles an hour

in a school zone say oh it's a civil offense especially when you couple that with

efforts to basically disarm the American population. California trying to force every single

gun you inherit to be registered or to not issue concealed weapons permits and the idea is that

well you can just cry and if you want protection you got to come to us because we have a monopoly

on guns and that's called the police and oh your neighborhood is a little dangerous you had a

break in who did you vote for what's your ideology maybe we can get a patrol out there maybe not

that's how they think it's never them because they live in secure neighborhoods and they have

security patrols unless your jasmine crocket and your security person is a criminal who tries to

shoot it out with police but otherwise most security patrols are there to protect you not to shoot

police. They don't know the guy's name Geifbath or Geifbath is that his name? He's a speaker of the

parliament contradiction of paradox there is no free parliament there's a parliament that

okays what the theocracy says but if he were to say I have an emotion that we should have a secular

city or something he would be dead.

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the Sheridan Gorman murder in Chicago and then also the cowtowing to Islam in the western

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So Victor just wanted to talk shortly about the Sheridan Gorman killing which was

very sad especially obviously and we our hearts go out to her family but she was gunned down

basically in the streets by an illegal alien and what I wanted to address on that is that the there

was an older woman in Chicago who said basically that she was in the wrong place at the wrong time

and then JB Pitzker came out with a statement finally after four days he couldn't make a statement

before condolences to her family but I was wondering don't the Democrats realize that just as bad

as getting to the being on the losing side is getting to getting there too late I even four days

before he actually came out to say something not to mention the wrong opinion by the older woman

but your ideas. Well the second question what is the governor to do because he has been on record

that his whole state is a sanctuary state that ICE is a fascist organization that he won't

cooperate with federal immigration law enforcement and so that there are going to be criminals in

Chicago system the judicial system the penal system that are here illegally thousands of them

and he won't turn them over and that sends a message to illegal immigrants that somehow

and bewildering fashion they're exempt from the law in other words and their supporters all say well

it's not a criminal offense to enter the United States it actually is but if it was just a civil

offense that would mean that we can just drive 80 miles an hour in a school zone say oh it's a civil

offense it's not a criminal offense so he knows that he's culpable for his policies are culpable

he knows that Donald Trump has had success in cities like Washington and Memphis by

bringing in federal troops to help stop these out of control murder rates so he refused all that

so he gets together with his advisors for four days and he says what are we gonna do and one of

them probably said to him let's just keep it quiet four days from now it won't be a sensational

article we got the sun times the Chicago Tribune they're not gonna report it so we'll just wait

him out and then finally people say well the right wing is reporting it so then they said well

maybe governor we can blame Trump because he said he was going to concentrate on criminals you think

well yeah that would be the stupidest thing in the world because that's exactly what Trump is doing

and he's arrested and deported hundreds of thousands of them but that was the only

the only avenue he had so he came out four days later and said stolen Trump's fault

he said he was gonna get criminals he didn't get criminal now we didn't cooperate with him

and we didn't want ice here and he deported thousands of criminals other in other places and

including at times in Illinois but he didn't get this guy to fall the other thing is the city council

woman or the older woman who said wrong place wrong time that's now a very common theme when

there's particular types of perpetrators if it's a black youth who in a and people

might associate that increased crime rate with black youth then the left will deliberately downplay

the victim and blame the victim so for example the Ukrainian refugee who was stabbed by decartals

brown with what 11 or 12 previous convictions it was let out what did the left report that story

has a vicious hard- and career criminal who slashed her throat why people just walked over her

corpse literally no they said it's a reminder when you go into a train be aware of your surroundings

and don't fixate on your cell phone because she was looking at this why he was it was almost like a

horror movie that he was looking over his shoulder ready to pounce why she was just

Freddie Krueger like and so that's what they did here they said

they were in the wrong place at the wrong time meaning if you're in our city and you're a co-ed

and there's the northern lights that are going to appear at one o'clock you and a group of people who

assemble in numbers so you're safe can walk out a few blocks from your dorm to appear and look out at

like Michigan and see the northern lights well that's the wrong place and the wrong long time

so what she didn't want to say is that we have a policy of a legal immigration we know there's

criminals here we know they shouldn't be turned loose they know that there are many of them are

vicious but we also know that under the mail and balloting system and the lack of an ID and

the number of states i think it's almost 20 states have registered more um voters than the voters

in the state who are eligible to vote at 18 by a magnitude and so basically as she's saying we're

not going to endanger the system in which we under the motor voter act of Bill Clinton that we

automatically mail out registered ballot registrations and ballots to people who have

driver's license and that's a good that's a big constituency of ours and we're losing losing our

constituency so we're not going to we're not going to do anything to endanger that

stream of voters and you can as soon as this as sure as the sun rises if Donald Trump

leaves office in 28 and JD vans or Marco Rubio do not get elected they will open the border again

and they will this time get 20 million because they don't care about the poor whose social services

are swamp they don't care about the increased violence they don't care about the lack of medical

background checks this particular person i'm not just being by the way people listening i'm not

just trying to be inflammatory this particular murder can't even come to trial because he has

an active tuberculosis case and so if you don't test people coming into the country in mass for

things like COVID or tuberculosis or worse malaria and then you've got a problem on your hands and

that the left doesn't care it's a very i think maybe it's a psychological effort to square the

circle because they are such selfish callous people that they always pose as caring but they do

things that are just utterly uncaring and destructive and they have throughout history

yes and i think that we have to all acknowledge that when you bring in 500,000 criminals and have

a policy of allowing criminals back out on the street you make far too many places the wrong place

at the wrong time especially when you couple that with efforts to basically disarm the American

population California try trying to force every single gun you inherit to be registered or to

not issue concealed weapons permits and the idea is that well you there's crime and if you want

protection you got to come to us because we have a monopoly on guns and that's called the police

and oh your neighborhood is a little dangerous you had a break in hmm who did you vote for what's

your ideology maybe we can get a patrol out there but maybe not that's how they think

yeah and their constituency thinks well it wasn't me therefore i guess it was the exception to the

rule right it's never them because they live in secure neighborhoods and they have security patrols

all right good news you're jasmine krocke and your security oh no person is a criminal who tries to

shoot it out with police but otherwise most security patrols are on yours are there to protect you

not to shoot police yeah that's the other thing we talked about that did they no and remember

congress had a head of her security detail who had all these false names checkered record and

stands off with police and they politely asked him to put down the gun he starts aiming it you know

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so please come join him there well victor let's turn into an article by timo brian in pyjamas media

and the title of it says everything and he has lots of examples that he wants to talk about but he

says title europe shows how it deserves to be conquered by islam and he goes through a series of

examples of a man in dundee scotland that was beaten by four muslims for walking past and a

mosque with his dog during prayer time and a german church that was forced to listen to the

called a prayer by an iman spain allowing lots of illegal muslims in and then finally the

acceptance of destroying christian statues but not touching islamic statues in the european

continent but i would like to add to that melanie phillips hadn't was talking was being interviewed

and she said britain no longer has knows how to defend itself uh because of the anti-western

education and media and britain again there is an exhibition showing jews eating babies

in an art gallery which is pretty offensive and while we're all for free expression etc that's

is beyond the pale against of on anti-semitism and then again the long history of gang rapes of

muslims of young british girls and i was wondering your thoughts on that particular subject

well it's very baffling written only has six or seven percent i know they say that the most

popular name now for children is mohammad but that's because half of muslim children are

male or name go mohammad where there's thousands of names for so-called christian children right

haisus or jesus is not half of the names so what i'm getting at is six or seven percent of the

population are muslim now i understand that about sixteen almost like the united states percent

of their resident population is foreign born and a lot of those come from the middle east so

i would be a little skeptical when they say six percent muslim that's why maybe ten percent but

nonetheless it's a minority so what i'm getting at is if the british people are in a consensual

society and they vote and they feel this is a problem which they increasingly do then they have

the tools to stop it and the reason that they don't stop it they say is because of diversity

equity and inclusion and inclusiveness and tolerance and ecumenicalism i don't believe that i don't

believe it for one second i believe if right now there were jewish gangs attacking muslims

and normal citizens and there was something called the christian crusade movement and they started

letting off bombs at christmas taking hostages cutting off the heads of uh islamic teachers

and the islamic community was not doing that then they would start going out and breaking up those

christian or jewish gangs and they would start if they were not citizens they were deport them in two

seconds so why the difference is because they are terrified if they make a cartoon and i think the

two belgian people discussing why it was okay to hit a statue of christ but they wouldn't dream

doing that of the prophet is they were scared and they have reason to be when you

mock jesus there's not in your if you write something called the satanic verses and it's not about

islam but it's about the christian satan for example and you're on a stage discussing it there's

a very little chance that a southern baptist fanatic or a church or christ person is going to go

up and stab you in the eye it's very rare that somebody in i don't know a christian country new zeland

australia is going to have a fatwa and say anybody who kills this author will go to heaven i don't

think that's going to happen but they're scared of islam and at some point we're going to have a

reckoning and i don't know which way it's going to go one of two things are going to happen this

insidiously because the the muslim community the radical muslim community feels that it is here

as they often say privately to change the culture or the nature of western civilization

by demography and by not assimilating the cultureating or integrating

but at some point if that were to be true and they get to a peak point you don't know what the

resistance will say no we're the country of Shakespeare and we're the country of jane austin

and we're the country of Churchill and we're not going to turn over at this date

or country and our cult civilization or culture to you we're just not going to do it so you either

integrate and you assimilate and you follow the rules like everybody else and be treated exactly

the same or leave and we'll see what happens whether they still have a Churchill in them

maybe there's going to be a politician like margaret thatcher or Churchill that comes out of the

shadows and says not yet not yet but we have the same problem in the United States and you can see

it with Islamophobic you can't any time a Jew is killed at a museum as we saw in Washington

or governors mansion in Pennsylvania's firearm or somebody rammed a car from

the elebany's naturalized citizen into a Michigan synagogue you can't utter that without saying

Islamophobic Islamophobic is kind of like a little get out of jail car so when you say

there was a Muslim person he went into old dominion he killed a decorated war hero won't be

with us anymore he yelled al-Aqbar there were two naturalized citizens that were Muslims they

drove all the way to New York they tried to kill in mass fashion a counter demonstration

they put two ied's they threw them out there their purpose was to kill they yelled al-Aqbar

they also said that they wanted to outdo the sarnab brothers who had killed three but injured

hundreds at the Boston Marathon with the same type of explosive so that was non-descript but when

you try to contextualize that and say this is terrible this we there's no place i hate that phrase

we there's no place here for such bigotry but they always say we condemn radical Islamic

violence and we condemn Islamophobia Islamophobic Islamophobic Islamophobic you hear me i said

Islamophobic Islam i'm not please don't get mad at me please please please that's that's how they

think remember George case i keep getting back to the chief of staff of the army 2012 so measure

Hassan shoots 13 of his friends his colleagues fellow soldiers who were unarmed i don't know how

they were unarmed at a base i guess you have to be unarmed at the cafeteria but he's armed and nobody

checks him he's a psychiatrist and he shoots them and he wounds 30 others and that when he's

asked a comment the chief of the army said that this this is a tragedy and it would be another

tragedy if we were forced to alter the DEI program no that's what you should do you should alter

it so you don't have any mass murders like that again and so that we'll see what happens but

there are people i mean they come i i understand when a first generation group comes here

they'll be wildered by the United States so the Swedes went to Kingsburg, California and they

was it was called the Swedish colony but they were not exclusive you anybody could live there

and they had western values too yes they had western values but you say the Japanese came from

a non-western country and they went to redley california and felt that they were and yet today

they're the most integrated intermarried assimilated ethnic group the Islamic groups feel that they

can withstand that and what their biggest fear is is the engine of western consumer culture and

popular culture from the Kardashians to McDonald's will corrupt their their kids and they will not

be about Muslims as practiced in the mother countries we'll see what happens but they feel they

can be exempt from the melting pot you know we have examples of the other side of that coin where

political officials have gone out and praised the Islamic community and it seems to me

unnecessarily so let me give you the two examples miki sharell who was the elected governor of

New Jersey who went ran under being a moderate has gone to a local mosque that has a cleric that

has voiced support or is allegedly accused of having supported terrorists you know monetarily

in other words groups but has in fact called for a quote unquote new in into fauna and she has

and this is what i mean by the other side of the coin that these politicians are saying things

like this you know how wonderful this mosque is you're constantly under islam she means quote looking

to do good works and we need those things in our community that because it's missing yeah i have

no problem with that but but to me the the the second let me give you the second example and then

i'll let you talk in salt lake city the mayor has gone to his local mosque aric mendels mendel hall

and he's appraised their values of faith and kindness and robert spencer wrote an article on this i

believe it was in pyjama's media could could have been elsewhere but he says he went after that to

recount all the talking about kindness killing of daughters who have not wear the worn the job

so all the cases that we have so it's hardly kindness so why are these democratic officials politicians

who are obviously need a vote praising these islamic communities in that fashion i mean i can see

them going out and saying well you know what is that what are the troubles for the they can go out

and do this though what are the problems in the his the Muslim community what do you guys economic

you know the jobs etc all the things that they might need and but why go the step further to say

this is not just the muslim votes in the left wing mind you deliberately look for the members of

the 30 percent oppressed victimized class and then you react in a very magnanimous way whether

it's accurate or not and then you reassure the muslim community that they're special as victims

and then you expect the asian the latino on the black community to say look at this

he she is saying this if she had any integrity which she doesn't she would say this is an

intricate integral part of my campaign and i'm running for governor and one of the things i

want to do is go to a mosque and say you people are essential to our community and just see

how if it helps or hurts what they don't understand is and they can't understand is there is a

difference between Christianity and Islam i have been to Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya

that are part of my colon and appendix in Libya i never got it back and Egypt, Syria

Iraq, Jordan i don't know you can count just one or two nights flying in places like Kuwait

okay and i knew that people were very friendly and hospitable i didn't know something though that

there were boundaries if i went to Kuwait and i walked out that night and i insulted the imperial

family or the ruling i would be in trouble publicly if i said something about Islam or made fun

of prophet i would be in jail when i went into i think i changed planes in Saudi Arabia it's been so

long maybe it was Kuwait they asked me if i had religious material if i had a bible i'd be in big

trouble so there's an asymmetry a muslim comes to the united states with his whole religious paraphernalia

and then he quotes chapter in verse all his rights that he gets when he lands here you can't say

this to me i'm basically quoting ilian omel i can marry my brother don't dare

and suggest i did that Rashid tell him don't dare to say that i'm a apologize for him uh

they have all of these acquired instant rights but they don't reciprocate they never say to you if you

go to samalia and you insult or you say something about the government or the religion you're going

to go to jail because they don't say anything because they agree with that they agree with that

if you ask was she to leave and would you do you think the Palestinians and gaza should have a

right if they want to convert to Christianity can they do that she'd say no if you say do they have

a right to insult Hamas no so we should take it for what it is it's people who come from Islamic

countries and as soon as they arrive here i'm not saying everybody but they become experts on

civil liberties but they would never want to if they were in control and if they come into control

they would never want to accord people the same rights that they demand for themselves and we

know that because when we go to their countries or they go to those countries you can't do any of

the things that they take for granted here but more importantly they defend those countries

they defend those countries so israel is a settler colonial genocidal country

well i've been to the west bank and i've been to israel and it's like night

contrary to what Tucker says the Arabs in israel are treated much better than Arabs in the

west bank who are Christians much better there's a reason why they have fled Bethlehem and it wasn't

the IDF it was Islam and the Palestinian authorities and when you go to israel it just functions on a very

different premise than the countries around it anybody can see that i only mentioned that because

Tucker was quoted her day as saying that he couldn't think of any western cities that were

as nice as islamic cities and i forgive myself and hope you give me forgiveness if i quoted him wrong

i don't have a quote but that's what i remember looking at the article okay i wish you would go to

old Cairo i spent a long time there i wish you would go i spent eight days in triply

wish you'd go to triply and then go to Copenhagen or Amsterdam or Stockholm or Paris and tell me

that those countries are superior they have better water they have better sewage systems they have

better power grids i don't believe they do and i've been to bad dad and i have been to quates i've

been and i just don't believe it if you go to a golf monarchy that's crystal clean it's because they

have a huge hell out population that cleans everything why the elite they're kind of like the

eloy in the morlocks you know what i mean an HD Wells time machine and if you go to the emmer any

of those countries their ideal in Tucker's world he's gonna he bought a home a guitar except

you don't go on a corner with a sign and say long live israel or you're in big trouble if you go

to israel you say long live Lebanon you can say it nobody makes that distinction

it's hard to be a liberal society and then a functional society because you have greater tolerance

for aberrations it's easy to be an autocratic society and have the trains run on its time like

Mussolini did but the west has been able most of the time to be both liberal in the sense of

consensual governs and allows the oddball dissident yeah i think i think riyad in Saudi Arabia is

the city they always showcase says because it looks very modern and it does as long as you understand

the local protocols and they come over here and you know a lot of Saudis came over here and blew up

the world trade center after partying at porno and gaming and gambling and drinking in Las Vegas

yeah strange so victor let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and talk a little bit

about the war in Iran stay with us and we'll be right back since the founding of america

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so victor there's as always a lot going on with the war in Iran we're all hoping that trump can

conclude it as soon as possible but this week he has sent a 15 point plan to in the war

we're not really sure with to whom and he's trump has said he is having talks with somebody that

he feels represents Iran but we don't know once again who he is having talks with so I was

warning on those things your your thoughts I don't know the guy's name Geifbath or Geifbath

does that mean he's a speaker or the parliament that's a contradiction of paradox there is no free

parliament there's a parliament that okayes what that theocracy says but if he were to so I have

an emotion that we should have a secular or city or something he would be dead so they always use

western like the communist did in the 60s and the Soviet socialist republics the republic of

north korea you know they mean the republic of east germany why didn't they just say the communist

slave state of germany or the communist boot camp or something but they always want to emulate us

same thing with china every time I look at their big parades and I look at their uniforms I said

is there anything that you can put on in a military show that is non-western can't you have

uniforms that show traditional chinese dress why do all your medals why do your uniforms why

do your hats why do they just mimic the west why does your missiles why do your trucks why

everything does even your goose stepping goons goose stepping goons mimic Hitler Mussolini

can I answer that for you yes it's because there's been a long tradition of recognizing that the

west is superior militarily and all of the people that have come to find out why that is the ones

that have been successful have realized that it's not just the weaponry and technology but the

culture that they need to bring in so they bring in in addition all of the garb etc I understand

that but it's also a referendum on their own culture that nobody wants to point out so this is

interesting because we don't know what's going on because the only as again the only venues

are out of zero and seeing in there's not a bit of difference between the two and they're

captives of their Iranian hosts such as they are in their declining state so they're only going

to report good stuff from Iran I must say though a little parentheses if you read the Wall Street

journal today yesterday last week three weeks every single there's two things you notice every

single story is a Debbie Downer story it's Trump thinks it'll be two weeks experts say three months

straight of our mone's harmonies likely closed for weeks missiles far more

remaining than thought economy worries recession in the air that's all and then when you look at

the byline I only say this because this is a Murdoch paper so you would think that it's reason to be

was to be a better news agency than its competitor New York which it is New York Times when you look

at the people who write for it it's always political Washington Post New York Times

Atlantic in other words they're they're bringing in reporters from the most hard left venues

to write news stories and then they balance it with a columnist which were about 60 40 conservative

but when you read the columns they bear no relation to a lot of the news stories

you know what I'm saying so they're not reading their own news stories to inform their own columns

then right I mean it's diversity but the news store the columnists are more accurate than the

news stories it's what I'm saying and but so here we are and Trump as I said earlier with Jack

he's facing a lot of pressures he's got the mega bass now he's got Joe Rogan he's got Tucker Carlson

Candace Owens Megan Kelly's it's I don't know how that happened but she seems to be more critical

of the war than supportive and has fallen out apparently I don't I don't fall very carefully

with Trump and there's a constituency it's growing and the Iranians said they prefer to talk to

JD Vance that's taken a needle in our stomach hitting us oh you have a mega guy whose vice president

didn't want to go in here did he ha ha ha and then you fired Joe Kelly who said the

designers were behind this just like we say so you've got that mega bass you've got the economy

and if you read the Wall Street Journal this week recession will be here in about a month or two

world world prices well and then you have the midterms and then you have the Europeans the Japanese

and Chinese and we need the straight of our moves we need the straight of our moves we've got to

get our oil we better get our oil and Trump says okay well why I handled getting rid of this vicious

country of 93 million people in that size double all one and a half Alaska's and I've got to go

in there with the Israelis could you just help a little bit and take each of your 30 NATO country

just send one little ship they would Japan two ships Australia two and a half and just make a little

convoy to protect your oil and I'll try to protect the tax on you just to show and can't do and they

say they're gonna do what they haven't done it so he's got all these pressures to stop and then he's

got his inner circle says Mr. President Dada your polls are going down we're gonna get wiped out

they're gonna and teach you they're gonna go after everybody all true and then you have to say

to yourself are we mad if you look at the Gulf War if you look at Iraq if you look at Afghanistan

we lost more people going into Panama under George H. W. Bush it's terrible 13 people were killed

but we lost 20 or 30 going into Panama Grenada was a more screwed up operation there hasn't been

anything that's gone wrong other than maybe the public relations aspect of it and by that I mean

Trump has already said on March 1st and March 20th that he wanted to eliminate the nuclear program

eliminate the ballistic missile program eliminate the ability of ran to bully and fight and

disrupt the Middle East and eliminate its terrorist proxies seems to me that he's getting pretty close

to all of them he never said I'm going in there and going to change the regime everybody said he

doesn't have a strategy but he has a strategy now you can object to the strategy saying Mr. President

you won't be there and vans won't be there or Marco won't be there and they'll get in a Joe Biden

or Obama and they will soon they'll wait like a bouncing cat and as soon as you're out and the

left comes in they'll get the Chinese and the Russians sweet oil deals and they'll be armed and

this time they'll use it because they have missiles that can go anywhere now so that that's a

concern but my point is that there was a great Brett Stevens who is a never Trump or although he

said he was kind of defecting from the never Trump ranks a few months ago he wrote a very insightful

New York Times column I mean he had to have the requisite you know Trump's a fool kind of things

but mostly he said if you look at all of our past major engagements on the amount of time we were

at war the amount of people we lost versus the amount of damage and success we inflicted

Afghanistan first Gulf War Iran Panama you look at all of them it's amazing that the damage that

we have done to Iran that the cost of it was not high even oil if you look at the first Gulf War

that was only a 42 day war 42 day war four days at a time when the United States was very

vulnerable on oil imports the price of oil in today's dollars was about $170 the price of oil

has gone down to about a hundred or below and so it's it's hard to see that we're going to be in

a huge recession or that the war is going to go on and on and on because when the war started

against Saddam he had been attried it but he had we were told by the New York Times I remember

the Republican Guard pedal hardened from 10 years with Iran sophisticated T-72 tanks

untested Abram tanks this is going to be a blood bath everybody said that and yet

Iran is so much more formidable than Iraq was and yet if you look at where the United States is

in 21 days 23 days and where we were after 40 days we've lost a fraction of what we lost

and we've done so much more damage to Iran than we had to Iraq and it's so much more powerful

and so the only as I said to Jack the only criticism I have is public relations I need I don't think

they need to get reiterate and keep it simple we went into Iran because we have negotiated

with this country for 47 years we've had tough Republican negotiators we have had Democrats with

the Iran deal the Obama Biden appeasement nothing works with them that regime has been until

Middle East conquest and the supremacy of the Persian Shia over everybody else in that golf

and Middle East in general you cannot reason with them they killed and then name it off as what they

have when you say there was no apparent threat that is like saying there's no apparent threat when

they don't oh they blew up the barracks and killed 241 but why did they do that there was no apparent

they blew up our end of the sea in Tanzan it was no apparent threat they blew up our

embassy no apparent threat they took prisoners and tortured them from the CIA there was no apparent

threat they never there's always a apparent threat with it always they tried to kill Trump they tried

to kill both and they tried to kill Pompeii they tried to kill Biden who but there was no apparent

threat I don't understand that it's so bizarre and so what I'm getting is that

if you use history as the barometer we're in much better shape all that all administration has to

do is say four goals no nukes no ballistic missiles no infiltration and trying to bully the Arab

and Israel neighbors and no subsidies to terrorists surrogates and do that and live in peace

and sorry you wouldn't do that when you negotiated so now you've got rubble and we're not going to

give a red cent to rebuild you good luck and then say to the Iranian people you came out and

they slaughtered you and that's one of the reasons we went in at that time because we thought that

you might be slaughtered to extinction and we did enough damage where you weren't and we welcome

you to you know now is the time they're we've taken out the leadership we've taken out the

command and control we've taken out a lot of their wherewithal and we will probably arm you if you

want but we're not going to go in there and rebuild your country that's your business and if he

would say that I think he could wrap it up pretty quickly all right Victor let's welcome back a

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sorry the victor davis Hanson in his own words show we have a competitor my evil twin it's called

the victor davis Hanson show and there's over I don't know 900 shows that are in stock

yeah that appear I get this question all the time I know and and there's a whole bunch of

imitators out there which we are trying to take care of AI imitators we'll find to put our

fingers on the dyke yes so victor I have a few more questions on iran and I know that part of it

you kind of brushed aside but do you think that you could answer yes or no do you think that

trump will be sending amphibious forces to take over carg island that depends on these

negotiations so I think when he talks about a 15 point plan that could be some renegade general

that called him up or maybe a secular maybe this parliamentarian and says he speaks in the vacuum

for all of Iran and he has feelers out with the opposition and he wants to have a been in

wailin solution could it could happen could not happen depends on how and how much disarray

or the theocrats versus the military that the regular military not the republic the revolutionary

guard the regular military hasn't been paid probably so if he's dealing with elements that are

subversive to the theocracy then there won't be an invasion there'll be a deal I would give that

about a 30% chance then he has to say that he's not going to put boots on the ground on the interior

mainland so he's bringing in probably all together five or six thousand if he's bringing the 82nd

airborne I don't think he's going to bring in the whole 82nd but that's you know a division could

be 16,000 so that is a one of two operations to take carg island which is a very big island

and it would be as almost somebody said we're going to invade your island in about six weeks

and you can imagine what that means they booby trap that island there's i.e.

d's everywhere on it there's ambushes set up there's subterranean tunnels it's like gaza

there's drones everywhere it's going to be a mess to get it go in there if you went in and

occupied it then Iran would have no income and you would squeeze that regime into nothing

so that's a very enticing option if they could keep the casualties to a minimum but that's

going to be very hard because you can't bomb it because of all the refineries and storage

and facilities that you want to keep you want to sell oil to keep the world price moderate

but under your auspices like you didn't Venezuela so the purpose would be to go in there

occupy the island get some Iranian technicians or European or American to go in there

and then sell the oil to the non-Chinese customer and have them go out the street of her moves and

take the money and bank it and trust fund and say to the opposition this is all the billions

that you're going to have at your disposal when you get rid of these thieves that's the one use

the other use is that Iran says that they can close the straight of our moves and they own the

straight of our moves even though it's international waters because you have to go close to the coast

and they've had these this fleet of hundreds it they're like power boats you know I mean they

look like a super outboard you know like a 30 foot world war two PT bow but hyped up

and they have our machine guns torpedo and mines and they're like fleas and they go all around

and then when we say we've sunk 130 warships I don't know we count them as warships

but they've got hundreds of them and so their ideas that we can at night I think they've shot 30

or 40 missiles from the shore at the Gerald Ford they've knocked everyone down that's pretty amazing

and that's not going to last if you keep doing that and swarming that but so what I'm getting at is

they probably put mines in the street and we I don't know why we don't have our minesweepers there

I think they're they're requested now and they're on their way but we should have from the first

moment we got there we should have had two or three we had a navy our navy's been vastly reduced

under Obama and Biden but my point is that you've got to clear the mines you've got to destroy

all of these cartel like speedboats and you've got to if you've got to put some kind of troops on

the shorelines to get all these missile silos and that's why they put them there they have dug in

fortified reinforced concrete missile silos that are pointed at any ship that go there to close it

down so you've got to occupy that or bomb it and they've tried to bomb it and apparently they

don't know where they all are and so that's a big task and then you've got to get the

Europeans and the Japanese and our allies to follow American lead and go through there it's been

done before I think Jim Mattis who was sent com commander if I'm mistaken I read that he organized

an armada before the Obama administration fired him partly for that was a wise thing to do but he

said when Iran earlier said that the straightover moose was theirs he just organized a armada

of allies to go through and turn around go back because I remember and into the Persian Gulf

and so I remember they had a tale about 500 miles everybody wanted to get in on it and so we'll see

yeah well you know I they've got to do something quick because if they don't these hoodies are

going to get active and say ah they're going with their pipeline they're using the red sea

to get in there and get North African oil or they're going in to get the Saudi oil and the pipeline

and they'll start doing what they do and then you'll have another headache I was wondering since

you've sort of alluded to this that what you thought about you know we keep hearing in the news that

they've neutered or or masculated their air force their ground forces their navy etc which is

all probably true but we still see missiles coming from Iran day in and day out of course

Israel's the one that's suffering most from this you see them hit their nose wondering

seems sort of strange I mean the administration shouldn't be high-fiving each other until they

really do have I use the metaphor similarly with Jack or when I was growing up thinning plums

you never look at the amount of plums on the ground that are no problem anymore you look at

the number they're still on the tree and it's very easy to fool yourself that you've thinned

enough of the crop off by looking at it so it's very it's very enticing to count up all the

launchers and all the missiles that you've destroyed and then say to yourself well this was our

pre-war guess of how many they had so this represents the percentage but then unknowingly you

give the impression to the world and your own constituencies that at the rate that you're going

say they were doing this the first 10 days after 10 days they said they destroyed 90 so then you

just calibrate well in 10 days if you destroyed 90 in 24 hours it'll be the last 10% but what that

didn't account for was the enemy having to say and you know what they did they took their long

range ballistic missiles that they had never disclosed the proper range that went to Diego Garcia

and they're scattered all over in hardened silos and then they had much more drones and underground

bunkers and they were scattered with no with the with the kind of a mosaic chain of command that each

tesera had its independent autonomy so they said given what we've seen the west do when the

Israelis do they will probably kill our top commanders like they did in the summer but when they do

that we want all you local people that have under your jurisdiction and control 10 missiles here 15

there you're welcome to do whatever you want with them and so they save their worst and most lethal

for last the cluster thing so when you hit these things the missile does what it was going to do

anyway it releases all of these bomb lets and they can be very deadly that said there's

there's not that many now there's only two or three four seven a day coming in they're just more lethal

and they're more depressing because you have expectations or they wouldn't be any so how do you

square that circle if I were the come and I'm not of course and I and I think the spokespeople

are doing very good but I would just say we have an approximation that we've probably got nine

and but I want to warn everybody they have had years to anticipate this so there is scattered all

around missiles and hardened silos in apartment buildings and the manner of Hezboah in the manner

of Hamas underground it's going to take us a long time to find every single one but we're working

on it that's what they need to say and the first Gulf War they sent 40 missiles into Israel I

think they did and they sent a lot out American we weren't able to find they had those people in

because they were on trucks in the desert and we had the scud patrol these were

you know uparmed Bradley vehicles and they were just driving all night trying to find them

ever as soon as they launched when a satellite gave the GPS then it was a rudimentary in those days

and they would try to I mean we didn't do very good so they're doing much better but because

because the media hates Trump the left hates Trump the Europeans hate Trump they give him no margin

of error so three weeks you're not done yet it's a failure you haven't got 100% of the missiles yet

it's a failure you lost 13 soldiers it's a bloodbath you know you lost a C-130 it's a catastrophe

that's how they look at everything and that then you've got all these people so I just wanted the

economy I just want cheap gas I like Trump but I just just wanted to go away I just want to get back

and you know he had all these great ideas let's get back on track yeah and he's trying to say well

we could get back on track but these guys were going to get a bomb and cause havoc to us in the

future yeah and if you don't believe me go back and listen to what Bill Clinton Barack Obama and

Joe Biden said they swore they wouldn't get a bomb and then they made the conditions by which they

eventually get the bomb if Joe Biden had come in and just left the maximum pressure on

them they were losing a hundred billion dollars a year in oil revenues and the Houthis were

terrorist organizations they were debanked they were defanged nobody was sending missiles at us

from bases anytime they tried to send missiles at an American installation in Syria or Iraq we bombed

them we bombed we destroyed ice that was all lost I can't believe that Jake Sullivan the former

national security advisor to Joe Biden is actually criticizing he's out there saying the Trump

team didn't understand Jake you were the one that told us what 10 days before October 7th well

you know this we've we've been pretty successful in the Middle East that Middle East portfolio

where mine is one of the quietest it was almost like you were an anti-Nostradamus or whatever

predicted would be the opposite would take place because the whole Middle East blew up on

your watch and because of the appeasement and Iran was at the center of it and you're trying to

tell us that you know you're an Iranian expert you guys oversaw the greatest military catastrophe

in the last 50 years with that skid owl from Kabul so it's you can't you have to put everything

on historical perspective yeah you know you mentioned Obama and they already understood that

Iran was you know you either got to tolerate them having nuclear weapons or you got to do

something about it but there was a bird's eye view into the Obama administration and I can't

remember what article this came from but yes where he said I went into a meeting and we were

addressing Iran and all I said was you know here's the quote from are you going to tolerate Iran

having a nuclear weapon or not and then after that meeting you got pulled aside by Obama and

Obama said don't ever put me on the spot like that it would never really have a war up to that

yeah and that shows you what you know what the Obama administration maybe they knew it but they

certainly didn't want to have to consider they didn't want they didn't want to have a bomb

why else did they have the Iran deal was it it was a trajectory to a bomb why did they send

four hundred million dollars on a pallet at night and Obama was a very strange person because under

that thin veneer of compassion humility he was one of the most self-centered unrepresidents we've

ever had so when he said you're basically you're done and the guy was done it's not like he didn't

say stupid things he went to South Korea and Seoul in 2012 when said to him a debit tell Vladimir that

this is my last election if you'll give me space I will be flexible on missile defense this

involves Iran meaning you guys are all worried about Iranian missiles and I have started a missile

program to knock them down and Poland and I've knocked them down with the Czech Republic and we

can cover the eastern flank of NATO the Russians object to this because they feel that in a nuclear

standoff it might be used against them and I'm willing to just sacrifice it all for my own personal

selfish future because I'm in an election and the last thing I need is an invasion of Ukraine

or something like what happened to Bush in 2008 when they went into Ossation and embarrassed him

so let's make a deal at the expense of my country and that's what they did and Obama and sure

enough they lived up to it Obama did dismantle those two projects which would be very handy now to

protect Ukraine and Europe and he did the Russians did they gave him space and they did not invade

Ukraine in 12 or 13 they did do it in 14 they said well the deal's done now now we're going to go

into Crimea in the Donbass and embarrass you and show you how weak you are but you did get elected

which we wanted so it was a great deal for you us Barack we knew you were weak you were an

appeaser you wouldn't do anything so we wanted to help you out so we didn't embarrass you

and you helped us out by dismantling this supposedly anti-Iranian missile defense which we didn't

want anyway so we want we was a win-win for us and a lose-lose for you and that's very funny because

just four years later these same people who watched that were saying to us the public Russian

collusion Russian collusion Russian collusion Russian collusion Donald Trump and it was all I

but there was Russian collusion Barack Obama colluded with the Russians for his own personal

political benefit at the expense of the security of his country and they said nothing and remember

what Ben Rhodes said when he was bragging in that interview I think it was with the New York

magazine or Atlantic I can't remember which and he said we created an echo chamber and these young

kids that are they know nothing so we just gave them the narrative and they bounced it right back

to the public and the narrative was the Iran deal was wonderful that's what he said yeah all right

Victor so let's go ahead and take a break and then come back for our last segment and talk

a little bit about that California gubernatorial race and maybe Gavin Newsom if we have some time

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the California gubernatorial race is taking a strange turn already USC was supposed to have a

debate but then they back down and counseled the debate because there were not enough non-white

non-male candidates or female candidates so I was wondering your thoughts on that very strange

back down it's so ironic it's like karma they came up with the idea when they have 66% of the

state or Democrats they came up with the idea of these jungle primaries so that there would be no

Republican candidates at all in other words the two top Democrats would get more than the

Republican and so never in their right mind did they think Sheriff Bianco and Steve Hilton

would be the two leading candidates and I think they may be the two leading candidates who win

the primary and I do think then they will have a right in candidate and those get all united

and they may win but I hope not but so they have all these candidates and they have in the democratic

party Kathleen Porter and Chris Fung Fung Stolwell right. So Swalwell and Porter have the highest

and the rules were that the four or five people who participated have to have the highest polling

by a non-partisan poll everybody agreed on it then the other four candidates said essentially

were Hispanic were Black and were Asian this is systemic racism now this has nothing to do with

the Republicans they used USC they wanted a university platform so then they went to

USC and said your race is racist racist racist racist you're having a were a multiracial state

where whites are 36% of the population and they're Neanderthal view they don't believe that anybody

who is white will vote for a minority or anybody's minority will vote for a white over another minority

ask Kamala Harris how that worked out so anyway at the last moment USC being an academic institution

with academics running it caved and they said oh don't call me racist please don't call me

Ray you can call me a child molester a thief a rogue a ray anything but so they canceled it

and now the seat and young or saying see they can't build a damn they can't build a reservoir

they can't rebuild the parasites they can't build high speed radar they can't even hold a debate

they're so incompetent they're just like a bunch of little kids they feud feud and call

each other names we had nothing to do with this we agreed to go to the hostile territory called a

university and just two Republicans going there and actually getting that debate and they had two

Democrats and it was going to be how many you want there how'd that work in the democratic primary

of 2020 when he had 16 candidates on the stage everybody gets a 30 seconds so it was really an

embarrassment and I guess what the spokesman Villa Garosa and the rest of them were saying is

we don't believe in democracy we believe in racial politics and we want a quota and so even though

we're not very it's also a commentary on the state because the common the state is 66%

non-white and the 66% non-white voted for the top four people in two in each party were white

which is odd but it's encouraging that people are not voting for their for their tribal on their

tribal affinities it reminds me it's so California when I joined Cal State Fresno I hadn't been

forming I went up there and the union rep came and knocked on my door and she said you're now

permanent after two years I was and she said you're a free loader I said I'm a free loader I said

yes you're given a union protection and union wages because of our collective bargaining for

your behalf but only 35% of the faculty is pain dues so you're a free loader I said I never

were free loaded off anybody and they said well we're not a political union we're an old-fashioned

union and we're here to help you from so I said you really think I'm a free loader so go ahead and

take my it was like a thousand a year or something well they got that and then they said we have no

money you can come to our Friday pizza part or pizza thing and they didn't they were little

lag tag union 30% of the 22,000 faculty members in the 23 campus or 22 and then they got grave

Davis to sign something that said whether you're in the union or not it doesn't matter we're going

to take your union dues and so I saw that union organizer and I said I left the union she said

do we don't care we do not care and she said something it was very funny off the record it's kind

of the fewer members it's better because we can control things what she was saying is we don't want

a bunch of people in the union when we get we just want your money and then I noticed that they

didn't have fruit punch and pizza on for they had extravagant dinners and they went out so they

had all this money and the funny thing was sure enough they had union reps elected so on some

campuses they've elected white people and the union came in and said we're overturning that vote

until you get this amount of blacks Hispanic that are Asian and they did exactly that's that's

imprinted in their DNA the Democrats they do not believe it kind of like the old Yugoslavia

that every you know Croatia, Serbia, Kosovo you name it massive they all get votes

and in their racial spoil system so I think for the first time there's a 50-50 chance that

a Republican could become governor I don't know what he would do with that insane legislature he

wouldn't get anything passed but he could at least use the money allotted as executive to build

another lane on the 99 or something or help we build palisades rather than more bills on illegal

and 10 billion more for homeless they get six more hotels and then spend 150 million to

renovate them and then put homeless people in without training or guidance and then haven't

trash it or you know 500 million dollars for illegal aliens for health care when nobody asks

what their legal status is or reparations in a state that never had slavery in the 3% African

American you're gonna give thousands of dollars to people six generations away from slavery that's

the mindset and by the way finally Gavin Newsom corrected himself today

he said he says everything but he said he was quoting Tom Friedman he said the and I went back

and looked it wasn't quite like what he said he said Tom Friedman said there were an apartheid state

mentioning Israel we mentioned that on one of our podcasts and we said oh yeah it's our apartheid

that means the Arabs can't vote and they have second class said no they don't if you're a Jew

you do in an Arab country if you're a Christian you are a second class citizen you have your special

religious enclave you can't go out but anyway he said that Israel was apartheid and then he

got so much criticism from democratic donors who were Jewish that he went back on and he did his

his twitch yeah I was quoting Tom Friedman he's like he's a rapper and he just does this and I

I loved I'm a big supporter of Israel I'm done he's he's he's I can he's 960 on the SAT Victor

960 it was very funny because he said that to his African American host and then he pointed to

the audience and said I'm like you and I would bet you that a lot more people in the audience had

higher SAT scores than he did and number one what it was so racist because he's basically saying

I'm kind of an exception to white people but I'm like black typical black person so he and you know

he is that way all those left wing people who grew up very wealthy and secluded and segregation

segregated and then they hang out with wealthy white people they don't feel comfortable with minorities

so they make this edifice the square the circles of their discomfort and so they act like they're

very liberal and they're going to do all this but every once in a while there's a crack in that

edifice and you see the inner side and their racist and that's why there's very liberal in a way

they want to say I'm very liberal I'm so liberal I don't have to live and you can see it Joe Biden

Barack Obama is the first black man who's clean and articular Barack gonna put you all on change

you people hey boy boy remember that he's called one of those things well let me tell you the

cornpork saw I took a sick fear chain and confronted cornpork and he had just a whole litany of

remember that when that really nice journalist was trying to find trying to interpret his babble and

he said hey junkie remember that Harry Reid said the same thing about Obama and then

everyone's well he'd have to be mine Biden not to use the word Negro

satchel paid was one of my favorite Negro pictures he did that and yet he acted very liberal

and remember Nancy Pelosi about complaining about the border who's gonna pick all of our food

who's gonna pick all our food you know I don't I mean I live in a community where the city council

the police the school they're all owned by competent Mexican-Americans they're not they're two

generations away from first generation agricultural labor but it's so typical of the left wing

elite wealthy privileged white class that they can't repress their racism and I don't know why

a lot of minorities put up with it because they they know that they talk down to them

yes it's condescending but even from Obama it was condescending to blacks so the liberal blacks

that are part of that world group of really skilled organizers for Harris don't be voting for

don't be voting for you know against the black woman don't come fall for that you'll fall for

that don't do that I mean you idiots you don't have my sophisticated political knowledge and you might

be tricked by Donald Trump and not vote for somebody that looks like you that's what he was saying to

them then he did a lot back actually he said that three or four times yeah he sure did you always

like thought you know it's like he was talking to Michelle once and maybe Colorado mansion or maybe

they were looking at the sieve from the rising sea that was going to engulf them at Martha's vineyard

or the title wave from global warming that was going to wipe out their huge mansion on the

shore of Hawaii and they said you know people are forgetting us Michelle get the Gulf Stream get the

Gulf Stream we're going to fly in there somewhere and elected to some young black people about

they don't know what's good for that's how they are operated

well Victor we're at the end of the show we have comments that were sent into you

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from you since we first heard you on the Greg Garrison show I remember Greg is a wonderful

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Libya oh no to get your operation for your appendix I apologize to him I said I have a bad

tummy ache and I didn't know it was a rupture appendix all right and then the letter continues we

also went on two of your wonderful historic trips to Italy and the south of France so that was

very nice that's from Susan and Mac Thomas the cards are so nice and people write so well and so

well meaning and as I said I've had over a probably at Stanford in here a thousand of them I try

to read them all and I'm they're very wonderful yeah and they do things they're very beautiful

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major operation and you had a four hour operation that would be three to four months you're only on

week 11 and then they had to add and then you had a second almost four hour operation 30 minutes later

and you had three liters of blood five transfusions that can cause allergies you've got anemia you

had a fib you had the trauma of taking all the sutures out and starting all over again and finding

the bleed in time so why would you put you know are you a lunatic but I want to get back and it's just

it's it's sort of not the real problem the real problem I have right now is my heart energy

and that but that's not the real problem the real problem is the cancer recurrence because

you can't do anything for it so I just sit here because the chemo won't work and immunotherapy

and you just sit here and think every 90 days I get a blood test at CT and then do you have a

little i.e. decoying around and you are not exactly you worry for another 90 days before you

next to the guy I'm really tired do you think it's cancer need laughed at me he said you just had a

biopsy 60 days ago that you have no cancer cell the first one was good so you've had all these

others things and then I said well I get all these heart spikes and he was very funny he said I

get rid of that apple watch just go by your instinct so I've been doing that kind of by my instinct

very good that's probably some good advice yeah I think it is to technology that

sometimes fail I said I won't mention any names I said well you know I get out I get out

up a chair I've never had this before it's 55 beats and goes zoom 100

and he said well 105 110 as long as it just lasts a little bit and it quits you know it's not

pots what they call pots it's just and I said well be walking at 73 74 I'm really getting

coughing on my half a mile and all of a sudden it goes 90 100 moves your heart's tired it's

recovering it's had some trauma give it a break but so what if it goes 95 when you were well what did

you get up to your target at heart rate 120 130 you got a lot of room just relax get rid of that

watch don't look at your heart rate yes go by your feelings if you're sweating and dizzy stop if

you're not keep going that was tough love I liked it it is but it's also true that the rising

your heart rate is not the problem but the recovery once you say yes I have really good

that's what he said all the way that's why he said he said if you get I had to lay I do these little

that these tests where you lay flat you're almost like go to sleep and your heart rate goes down

like 55 53 and then he said get up so you jump up like you're superman and then they see what your

heart rate goes up to and mine went like I don't know 95 or something and if it's more than 20

beats it's worrisome because that's called post ortho orthostatic tachycardia but then they see

what your recovery rate is so then you sit sit down and in one minute it was back to 60 so they said

don't worry about it because it didn't last for more than a minute so that means your heart's

recovering so I'm hoping I'll be with some of those that small group when you get really bad

AFIP I had really bad for a month that the fact that you haven't had it subsequently means that

you have and you didn't have a before surgery that it was trauma related or blood loss related

that you might not have it again then all you know the other thing I've met is all these people

who say I have AFIP and I said but there's two types episodic really traumatic and then just

you never know you had it and they'd live with it it's no big deal

well Victor we're at the end of the show it is a big deal I shouldn't say that but they

live with it yeah and I would like to remind everybody Victor is going to be back for the Saturday

show so following this Friday news roundup we'll have our regular Saturday show this week so

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