Victor Davis Hanson: Why Europe Is Turning Against Mass Immigration

0:00The more you said Trump was Hitler, the more you tried to get him out the ballot, at each increment his popularity increased. And that's what's happening in New York. So it's very easy to champion open borders, see? And that is how it started. When that reached a critical mass, then people became emboldened and said, why do I have to hide what I feel about Islam? The immigration today is different, and the Germans understand that it's not intended to assimilate, acculturate, and integrate. Now, some of you are going to say, well, at some point don't they understand that if they don't change and integrate, all they're going to do is grow misery like they did in their home country. Yes, but that doesn't mean they're going to stop. Well, hello, ladies and hello. Gentlemen, welcome to Victor Davis Hansen in his own words on the daily signal network.

1:02I'm Jack Fowler, the host. I get to ask our friend a true national treasure, Victor Davis Hansen. The questions I know you would like to ask him. Victor is the Martin and Ily Anderson Senior Fellow with the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marsha Busky Distinguished Fellow in history at Hillsdale College. And he's also a senior contributor at the Daily Signal, which also hosts Victor Davis Hansen in a few words. Four times a week Victor does that. You should check that out. Now, we are talking on Monday, September 7th, 2026. And this is one day in real time as we're talking. Now, this particular episode is up on September 10th. So people are watching this two days after Victor's book, The Counter Revolution, is formally and officially published. But as Victor and I were communicating earlier, this morning, pre-publication date, it is number two, bestseller on Amazon. And I think doing rip roaring. And I hope that will continue, Victor.

2:05So yeah, I do too. The president put out a nice tweet on two social. I was a little apprehensive because I'd be getting a few, not a lot of few emails from Trump supporters and said, Victor, why do you have fall in there? He didn't fall. And what I'm saying is, I didn't say that, I don't think you'll have to read the book to understand the full meaning of fall. It's after January 6th, what the media and the left and the bureaucracy in deep state did to him and how that was calibrated in a number of ways, the effect and what were those ways. Number one, he was trailing by a substantial margin Ron DeSantis. Number two, luminaries, and I name names in the Republican Party, I'll give you an example. Mitch McConnell said it couldn't happen to a nicer SOB, but he didn't say SOB.

3:07I don't think he did. He said the actual term. And he had all of these people disowning Trump. And he could not get a bank account. And he couldn't get on social media. He was persona non-grata. That's what I meant by fall. In the sense of Richard Nixon, after he lost the 1960 election, they wrote him off fall. And then he came back. So that was just a clarification. And we'll see how it does. You know, Amazon has a different, Amazon's very different than the New York Times. The New York Times has a secretive formula that is, and I'm saying this without prejudice because I've had three books on the New York Times about seller for, I think, with carnage and culture. And then a lot on the top 10 on Amazon. But Amazon just does pure sales that are done through Amazon. Now I understand that's not all sales of books, but it's about 80% or more.

4:09But the New York Times has a formula that they value certain particular reviews of the book or certain bookstores that are iconic, that sell versus sales. And then they discount certain types of sales if they're in bulk, etc. So they have a formula and they don't disclose it. So you can literally have 10 books that are selling more books than the 10 on the New York Times list. There's some subjectivity work into this. That's the complaint against it. And I think my dying citizen was considered not as odious as the case for Trump. And the end of everything, I'll give you an example. The end of everything sold pretty well, I think it's up to over 150,000. But the other two sold much better. But that book was on the New York Times book, best seller for far longer than the other two books.

5:11And I think that's because they felt that it wasn't by a conservative. It was just about history. Right. Well, in its way, the enemy of my enemy is my friend and they bring that into their calculations. We have a couple of things to talk about. Many things if we had enough time. But the yesterday, Sunday and real time, the elections in Germany happened and the AFD, the far right party. I don't know if there's a far left party, but there's a far left party. The only say that, yeah, it's a good point. It's always far right, never far left. But it had stunning victory, although not a majority victory is the ways of Europe, there are multiple parties. But we have that. We have the people Dover, England saying enough, we wanted to get to that in our previous show. We'll get to it today. You have a new essay out in the new issue of the new criterion.

6:13I think I'd like to get your take on Mayor Mandame of New York and just how twisted and evil he is. This relates to September 11th anniversary. Colin Kaepernick just will not go away. He's got a book coming out. He's still a martyr. And if we have time, there's another topic. Or two, so we'll get to all that, Victor. Your take on these things when we return from these initial important messages. Hello, this is Victor Davis Hansen for the Daily Signal. I have a new book out on September 8th of this year. And I think you're going to enjoy it. It's called Counter Revolution. The fall and rise of Donald Trump and the Maga movement. It starts right after January 6th, and it details the lack of popularity of Donald Trump, the invective that he endured, the five civil and criminal trials, the effort to get him off the ballot, the raid on Marlago, the two impeachments earlier, one in which he was tried as a private citizen.

7:15And yet he came back. How did he come back? And why did he come back? I explain in the book how he defeated his primary opponents, how he was outspent. He had a hostile media, and he defeated the Democratic machine. And Camilla Harris. It starts on January 6th. It ends pretty much now in May of 2026. What's the title about? Donald Trump is not a revolutionary. He's not a revisionist. He's a counter-revolutionary. This time around, he is not addressing just the symptoms of the progressive project of the last 50 years. He's talking about the causes. Not just an open border, but how to stop illegal immigration entirely. Not just crime, but sending the National Garden to make sure cities are safe. Not just an Iranian nuclear threat, but ending that threat that seven other presidents had identified, but did not act on. Not just addressing the transgender issue

8:15or the Green New Deal, all of those issues that are so dear to the Democratic Party, but ending them, defunding NPR and PBS. So it is a counter-revolution to unwind and to roll back the entire progressive project of the last 50 years. I think you're going to like it. It's pretty interesting. It chronicles the greatest political comeback in our recent political history. Thank you very much, I'm Victor Davis Hanson for the Daily Scene. We are back on Monday, talking on Monday, September 7th, of Victor Davis Hanson, in his own words. It's Labor Day and Happy Labor Day to all those that labor. And I have a feeling, Victor, the muscular classes are more apt to be laboring than the people sitting at the DMV. Did you see that ranking of labor,

9:18how work was on that map, how work was graded in particular states? No, I didn't. Go ahead. A survey company decided they were going to use a certain set of criteria, how many hours worked, what were people's attitudes toward work, what were employers' impressions of a convenient or a hospitable work environment. And then they rated the states as excellent hard work, and they rated hard working, pretty good working above average and bad. And how do you think that broke out, Chad? I have a feeling there's a blue red component to this. You hit it on, and my state right there at the worst, an organ in Washington and Illinois, New York, I think probably because of Wall Street's a little bit higher, but all of them are red states. And that was L. Cyei. Do you remember what he said that he,

10:19one of the things I don't know if he's, I don't know how you delete his YouTube or tweets, or not his tweets, but his interviews, where he said, we have to get, we have to get around this idea that being on assistance is bad, and that hard work is good. He said hard work is not good, it should not be valued, basically. That's part of the problem with this democratic party. It's got two different groups, one group that is highly educated and unemployable and angry that the society didn't recognize her genius and didn't offer them. Two million dollar your jobs, and then a lot of people who have come recently and are on public assistance that were in addition to people who are always on public assistance. And there was also a remark that I saw in a couple of websites,

11:20and I didn't realize that we've spent, I've always heard 20. This said $22 trillion since the 1965 Great Society legislation, and the poverty rate is 11%, then, and the poverty rate is 11% now. So in some sense, it had no effect whatsoever other than to go through $22 trillion, which is basically, it could get rid of over half our national debt had we not spent it. And it did a lot of damage to the psyche of people that are on public support. Yeah. By the way, Victor, kind of related to work and labor, and I'm springing this on you, but I've seen in the last two or three months about 20 short videos, mostly it's through LinkedIn of a business owner or leader. And he's asked five or six questions, how would you rate on scale of one to 10? How do you rate an employee? So this tends to be by the college graduates.

12:23They've done this and they've done that. And one of the highest ratings are, walling college, you had a part-time job, seven out of 10. Start at a non-profit, two out of 10. So the enoblingness, if that's even a word, of work in the eyes of the employer is great versus the eye of the privileged elite who thinks, I've so many times that I've come across these kids at Yale, at these yellow beds. I thought it a non-profit, like nobody gives it right. Nobody cares. Yeah. It's virtue signaling. It's something you say to somebody you've met online to impress them in your political circle. But there was also a report today on Labor Day. There's seven million high-paying jobs that require muscular activity, electricians, plumbers, that skilled, skilled. If you want to, we are in a very depressed economic area, but if you hire a contractor,

13:31besides his profit and everything, he has paying his electricians probably $30 an hour minimum. And that's low because, remember, that Gavin Newsom is paying what? Fast food workers, $22 or $23. But if you want to hire one of those people on your own, it can be $50.50 an hour. So these jobs are very high-paying, much more high- higher-paying than what your psych or sociology degree would otherwise earn. And yet they go begging because of the social stigma that you say you work with your hands. Or maybe you're not able to do it or something. I don't understand it, but I just had some foundation work and the guys finished, they worked on Saturday and I was talking to them. And they were very happy to have the work. And I supplied all of their, I gave them ample, part of the bid for the job from the contractor was

14:37that I paid for all their gas, their hotel. And then I also gave them money for lunch and think my wife even gave me my birthday cake. She did. And then I, you know, I like them. And I talked to them. I went onto the house. I probably not as surprised as I should have been, but I went to look at and inspect their work under there. They were surprised that I do that. But they were really, I mean, they were highly paid. I didn't think they were, when I'm getting as they're not manual brute labor, it takes skill to crawl under a house and clean off the crawl space and then put protective layers of plastic in there and all of them, this house is 100. And it's 156 years old, most of it. And for them to find all the different sections underneath

15:38with different foundations, it was very hard to do, but they were very skilled. And I think a lot of, just to finish, part of our problem is, and I know, I don't know, because I'm older than you, Jack, but when I was in grammar school, it was required in eighth grade to have one whole semester of mechanical drawing and one whole semester of what they called shop. And that meant when you were 12 or 13, they were letting you use band saws and lays and you were given instructions with eye protection helmet, but you could easily cut that gave a young kid's 12th. I mean, I made toy cannons. I made a metal shop was a second semester. First semester was wood shop second. I made barbecue forks for my parents. I did all of that. And a lot of people did. And that's completely eliminated. Right. So there was a sense and then in senior problems, as I said earlier

16:39in the podcast, the idea was you're all going to go out and work. And we assume that as young people, nobody is, we can't assume your parents told you this. So we're not in local parent is trying to take over their job, but we want a common, if you graduate from Selma High School, we want employers to know that you have a common level of comportment and behavior. So get in line and come up and say, hello, Mr. Jones, sir, glad to meet you. That was not too hard. Victor, don't squeeze his hand and show your stronger, but don't give the Lemperez me. That's what they told us. In order, Victor, you have five seconds to write out a check. Victor, we all, I'm just using myself for the class. There are now, we have to warn you people, these are World War Two movies that were taken in a time of war. So these things can happen if you decide to have, they didn't say

17:47unprotected sex. They said sex that was promiscuous. Now, know your partner and her sex free, or his sex free background before you and have sex under the umbrella of marriage. But if you don't sit tight boys and girls, you're going to watch this. And then this thing came on. And it was the most scary, terrifying thing I'd ever seen in my life. So, civil, civilist, cankers, third degree, civilist, gonorrhea, war, and then all these people. And I swear for the next two weeks, every time I saw a young, beautiful girl in high school, I ran away from it. But the point is they were trying, they were trying to inculcate. And now we make fun of it in 60s, ah, ha, ha, ha, drop in, tune out, add it in, free love, but free love. I know there was

18:47rigidity and hypocrisy there, but my gosh, they tried to turn out people who were respectful, polite, ah, and then thank you notes. And we'd say, guys don't write thank you notes. Yes, you do write thank you notes. You write thank you notes for people who gave you. And then you have five days to 10 days to write a think new. After 10 days, people suspect that you're full of ingratitude. And then we had first aid. So, Victor, you're going down the freeway. And you see a wreck, you park your car about 100 yards behind you rush over. And then here's how you do the sling banage. Here's how you do the thoracic banage. Here's how you stop the blood. Here's how you do this. And then for smoking, and they had just had the surgeon general in 67, say it was dangerous. So they had the here boys and girls, I know some of you are smoking the side. Yeah. So then they show an autopsy. And

19:48here's to this person died a happy life at 75 without smoking. He had these big beautiful red lungs. And then this person unfortunately was a two pack a day. And there's these little shriveled like they looked like a barbecue Walnut Walnuts. So, so I came home. I was a fresh, I was I said, hey, dad, I'm afraid your lungs are the size of walnuts. Can you stop? And he took it up late in life, yes. Well, he smoked during the war. And then he he quit. And they all had a beer and he quit. So when he came home at 23, he did not smoke and he did not drink. And I grew up from that was 1945 until 1971. I don't in fact at Christmas, he would tell me, go down your grandfather and grandmother or tea tailors walk down at the big house. I know that

20:53Christian brothers, because they sent some of their crop to the winery gave them complimentary wine. And I know where they do with it. They hide it in the closet under that bookcase. So you go down crawling there and get those bottles. And he wouldn't drink, but he had people come over. So he had white wine. However, when my mother became a judge and she had to travel and things like that, he retired and worked on the farm with us, but he would take off three or four times a week. And he when judges would go to conferences, their spouses, he was the only male. So he had six or seven women and he would drive them and they would go out to eat. And then there there was a whole different social malew than what we were used to. And he began having social drinking. And then he started smoking again at 50, but he had been a yoga instructor. He had been one of the first joggers. When he was 50, he was 63 and weighed about 200 pounds of solid muscle. And then he stopped

21:59all that. So the doctor when he had a fib from drinking or smoking later in life in his 70s, the doctor said, I don't know how he's alive. He's he's drinking an enormous amount of alcohol. He's smoking two pounds. I said, well, he didn't do any of that till he was 50. He was a marvelous athlete in college. But he could have lived to be a hundred. But I think the war, I don't like the idea that you blame things, but he had never mentioned it growing up. But when he would drink for the first time, and I was in my 30s, I would hear these stories, you know. Yeah. And they were chilly, you know. But if this generation had to be transported back in time to fly the bomber runs at your father many many men who died doing so crazy. The numbers, as you know when you've talked about, how would they handle just the trauma of understanding that odds of you surviving 25. I don't know. It's a zero. So I don't know. He told me one thing I remember

23:03distinctly that he was a central fire control and that blister on top of the plane and the new, I think it was called a Tony fighter. It was a souped up zero. And it was coming straight down to add him. It was it was one of the few. There were two planes that could go up to 30,000 in the Japanese late model planes, which he said were better, whereas good as our plane. But they didn't produce very many. And then the only way they could stop B29s was a ram them or to try if they tried to shoot them and they didn't if they had 20 millimeter cannon. And if they didn't blow up the B29 then they were told to ram them. So he said he was on his back looking straight up and this plane was coming right down on top of him and then to destroy the plane and 20 millimeter bullets, cannon explosives were missing right under his rear end under the plane. And he could see the person's glasses and the stash. And 20 yard, 30 yards, he hit it with a hole. He took control of

24:07all the guns on the plane on his computerized system and directed 11 batteries and blew the whole plane up. And they had some damage when the wreckage hit the plane, but they survived. And I thought, wow, you can see a person as they're trying to kill you coming in at 400 miles an hour for just just a brief second. Yeah, yeah, I think he that bothered him a lot. Yeah. Well, Victor, let's get to some of the topics. But first, I want to let our listeners and viewers know if you've studied enough history, you start to see a pattern. Nations don't lose their way. overnight, they drift through debt and division until one day you realize the foundations you thought were permanent were never permanent at all. Today, America is spending at levels once reserved for war time. We've normalized deficits that would have stunned earlier generations and policymakers now debate whether the only path forward is more intervention, more printing, more distortion. But here's the historical truth every society that pushed its currency beyond discipline

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27:18will the coalition be cobbled together? They'll allow a D to govern. Of course, it's policy for everyone that they will not allow this party to govern. But anyway, Victor, you've talked before about the people of Europe. I'll say we're done. We're done. Your thoughts on this election? Yeah, I think they should look at the United States. And that was one of the things that I think people would like about the book. I tried to show step by step by step. The more you said, Trump was Hitler. The more you tried to get him off the ballot, the more you wage five courtroom law fairs against him. The more you rated his home, the more people tried to kill him, each at each increment his popularity increased. And that's what's happening in Europe. Everybody is sick of this. And what is this? Open borders, illegal immigration, green energy, destroying the competitiveness of European businesses and corporations through expensive energy

28:23that's not reliable. And I'll say one of the things that the alternative for Deutschland is doing is they want to get out of NATO. I mean, they want to get, I don't know if they want to get out of NATO yet, but they want to get out of the EU now. And that was a big issue. And because they feel it's basically an unelected group of bureaucrats that's running it for their own benefit. But the point is they're going to try to suppress this and suppress this and suppress this. And therefore, it's going to get stronger and strong. It's going to happen in front. I think Macron will be out. His party will be out. The British left will be out. This crazy Spanish prime minister will be Sanchez will be out. Malone will probably survive because of her. She was able to kind of have a war with Trump, but she's still conservative. I don't know what

29:24that'll happen. But it's an existential question now. People really do believe they will not survive as Europe unless they, and some of some of people in the United States say, well, we have 16, 17% of the population immigrants. And we're struggling with this. But some of these countries only have eight or nine. Yes, but they don't have any experience with our melting pot, with mass immigration that formed this country. And it's good. So this is a new experience for them. And it's not a good experience. You know, I was watching a British mystery and Devar. It's about the first years of Inspector Morris. It's a series. And it was formed filmed in 1916 and 17. And throughout the series, it went on for, I think, seven or eight years, maybe nine years. I can't remember. But there were, it talks about, and all of the British,

30:24all of British TV is left center. So basically one of the constant themes is how wonderful people are who were immigrants in say, 1915. It takes place a little earlier. It was filmed in in 2017. But it's more about 1960s and 70s. That's the locale. That's the drama, dramatic date. So that was when it first started. You know what the attitude is? All of these white racist are terrible. They treat these noble Pakistanis and nor noble Ugandan, but there's not very many of them. So it's very easy to champion open borders. See? And that is how it started. But when that reached a critical mass, then people became emboldened and said, why do I have to hide what I feel about Islam? I don't have to hide it anymore. We're in the majority in certain cities in England. We're going to just say it's kind of like L. Said. We run simple Michigan. So I'm not

31:27going to hide it anymore. And that's, the immigration today is different. And the Germans understand that it's not intended to assimilate, acculturate and integrate. It's intended to create their own culture from their homelands and do it as a parasitical entity that takes the economic prosperity of free market, Western European, Eastern European capitalism and freedom and security. And within that embryo that it has an umbilical cord that gives it money, welfare, protection, you name it, then they can create a little Egypt or a little Saudi Arabia or a little Iraq or a little Syria. And then once they establish out, they can grow it a little bit bigger and then a little bit bigger and then a little bit bigger. Now some of you are going to say, well, at some point don't they understand that if they don't change and integrate, all they're

32:31going to do is grow misery like they did in their home country. Yes. But that doesn't mean they're going to stop. They will go, they will grow it to a point where the entire system falls down and look at Los Angeles. People said there's only not that many homeless people. There's not that many unassumillated immigrants. There's not that many people who are booing the United States when they play soccer against Mexico. Yes. But that group grew and grew and grew and now it's reached critical mass and people left and left and left. And there is no umbilical cord that can save Los Angeles because the people who are running Los Angeles want, they don't want to integrate in many cases or they're so hard left they don't like the United States. But there's not people, there's not enough people in California now to lift, lift, to allow the whole LA basin to be amethetical to America anymore. And you can see what's happening when you have tribal

33:35shavonism and tribal racism, these tribes then turn on each other. And I think Jack, you pointed out like blacks and Latinos in LA. Yes. Yes. You would think that you would think in a normal world, especially when there's 35% of the California population is white, that when Hispanics want to have a athletic event, a run, a half marathon, marathon, whatever. And it goes through or starts from an area heavily black, which is only 3% now of the state. 41 or 42% of the state is Hispanic. You would think they would say the leaders of the black community, well, we're going to try to integrate, your worst impression would say and it would be based on evidence. Well, they're all anti-white. So this is an intersectionality harmony. No, it's not. And then your next impression would be, well, nobody would be stupid enough to kick out

34:39Hispanics from a black community and risk rising ethnic and racial tensions when that particular group is 15 times larger than my group. No, they did it anyway. So the black community say, get out of here. This is our neighborhood. We don't want to be gentrified by upscale Mexican-American people who buy our houses. And that's what's happening because there's nobody who says, hey, nobody identified by your tribe, your Americans and your tribe is irrelevant or incidental, not essential to who you are. Not Karen Bass, not Rama, whatever name is, it's running for mayor as a socialist alternative. None of them. Only Spencer Proud who lost, mysteriously lost, I should say, because he was way ahead. But this is a six-year-insvict, there are a lot of people have. And I don't mean that people are ignorant. There's an assumption that blacks and Hispanics in America are all,

35:45buddy, buddy, and they're not. And I get a sense that the hostility from one to the other is more black hostility towards Hispanic. I don't know about that. I grew up living in a Hispanic community. My parents were John F. Kennedy's civil rights Democrats. I think I mentioned when Martin Luther King came to Grace Cathedral, they drove us all the way up to San Francisco. And then we were on time and then somebody called us when we got there and said a black community, a black family didn't have a ride. So we went all the way over to Hunter's Point, picked them up, came back and by that time we lost our place and they just pushed me into the cathedral and I heard him. I was only one of my family. But my point is they were big supporters as they should have been against racism. But when we came home from first, second, third, fourth, fifth grade, I went to school with maybe

36:47nine at that particular K through third grade and fourth grade, another school, fourth to sixth. I would say it was 95% Hispanic. It was on the west side of Selma. And I was on the edge of town. So that's where we went. We should have gone to a farm school, which was mostly ethnic, you know, Armenian, white, Japanese. But my parents thought it would be good for us to go to a predominantly Hispanic because she thought, you know, you have to get along with people. And maybe out of that three or four hundred kids at school, there were three or four blacks and they were tormented endlessly. I won't mention the words in Spanish that were called about them. And then I can remember going out on hot days, you know, in May before school got out and we would play baseball and a few Mexican-American kids are people. There were a lot of people who were illegal. They would say things

37:49like, I got to wear a long shirt. I say, why? It's so hot. My mom said, I don't want to look like a inward. And I've had people work for me side by side. I had some people work side by side building a concrete wall. And the person said to me, I won't work at three or four with a short sleeve. I got to wear long sleeve because he was really sweating. And I thought it was a theory of, you know, hydration or something because my grandfather wore long sleeve when he was on by himself. He said, I don't want to get dark like a inward. There was enormous prejudice in the, that was introduced, you know, the Spanish conquistadors had gradations of which indigenous people were dark and which were not so dark. And today you'll see people who will, on the one hand, I've had friends on the one hand, their associates. On the one hand, they will buy into all of Mexicans, Mexico's problems were caused by Malinche and Cortez, all the Aztec or indigenous people

38:56who joined the awful conquistadors and destroyed the beautiful Aztec culture. And at the same time, they'll tell me a day later, you know, my family, the Rojas or my, you know, I'm an alvarado. I come right from Pedro Alvarado, the Red Hair Conquistador. And my family was pretty good. We always married people that were Spanish, not Mexican. And, you know, there were 20% of the Mexican American community, many from northern Mexico. You wouldn't know the difference between an Irish guy with black hair and a person from Mexico with black hair. They were pure white. And that was, and they felt that they, and their parents would not let them, when I got the high school, they did not want them dating people who were dark. And so I don't think it's just

39:59coming from the African American. You're intimate with it. No best there. Well, I've also had, I mean, I have, in my extended, my brothers, my brother's, my brother's step's child is two of them are Mexican American and my other brother was married to someone who was Mexican American. She passed away. And so, and then I grew up, I was kind of on free range on that, on the ranch by two, two people who worked for my grandfather, who watched us. So we would go out and work and they would be our supervisors. You know, my grandfather, go out to the north 20 and sucker art, all those vines you will, and Joel will take you or Manu will help you. And they were, you know, kind of our tutors. So we learned a lot about racial things and stuff. And they would, you know, they'd type, they'd say, you know, Victor, watch out for the Armenian neighbor, watch out for that oaky over there, watch out for the Japanese only. They didn't quite use those terms. So you got you, they were in, so you got a tutorial that Mexican American people

41:06had as many or as few prejudices as white people. The idea that this white supremacy is, that's not true. Yeah. It's every single group. Right. They're allowed to remain in a group and they're on question. They will have racial shalvanism, just like any other group. But they will claim, especially, I have to read an ad here in a sect, Victor, but there's a claim, especially, I think, among the black community, that they are incapable of being racist, you know, and that the only people capable here in racist America are whites, you know, why would I would, if you reject the European Renaissance and Enlightenment, and you reject the liberal white tradition, and you say it's foreign to your culture, then it's incumbent upon you to show that there are people in your culture that believe in ecumenicalism. And I don't see that as an indigenous tradition myself in Native

42:10American or particularly Mexican culture. I don't see it. The people in black culture, like Martin Luther King, and as early years at least, were an exception, not the rule. It was more, and he was losing influence to Stoke Carmeycle and Rap Brown and the Black Panthers, etc. And okay, well, let's, we're going to have to go back to Europe. But before we do, Victor, we tend to forget that civilizations are remembered less by their politics than by what they made, the tools, the objects, the things built well enough to outlast the people who actually built them. Well, for most of the last century, America made things. Then like much of the old productive economy, watchmaking packed up and moved overseas. Today's sponsor is trying to bring back a piece of that. Var, that's V-A-E-R. Var is a Los Angeles watch company whose goal is pretty straight

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44:15for sponsoring Victor Davis Hanson in his own words. I have a funny feeling folks that Victor is probably getting texts from the leader of the free world. You never know. And so he's ignoring me, but Victor, I just want you to do me one favor. No, I have a... I want you to show a much better look at me, Victor, and I want you to show that watch. Okay, there we go. Thank you, my friend. I was actually... I had an emergency message from my daughter that my son was trying by himself to take a 24-foot houseboat out of the lake, and he backed it in himself. He's an expert at it. He can do it all by himself, but she was watching it and terrified. Yeah, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do at 78 miles away. Well, it may be a patron saint of boat moving. I'll have to find one out before the show's over. Hey, Victor, let's go back to what we promised on the last episode, and at the beginning of show here, about Dover. So here's the headline from the Daily Mail, not Dober, Delaware, Dover,

45:19England. Politicians condemned Dover anti-micron blockade as police criticized Dover response. So here's the first paragraph or two from the article. Politicians are condemned that Bala Klavo Klad Mob, who stormed the port of Dover yesterday, as migrant protesters warned, it's only the beginning. Britain's busiest ferry port was blockaded by hundreds of men dressed in black, causing an hour's long gridlock and miles of tails, tails backs on surrounding roads. In fact, I normally don't have much sympathy for men, Klad, and Black here in America, because usually are Antifa. But it seems in the UK there are people who are we're just we've had it with this illegal invasion, and we're going to do something about it as individuals, because sure as hell our government is and ensure as hell our government is actually facilitating this. So your thoughts on some of these aggressive actions. I like they were wearing block Klad that came from and I haven't checked this, but that came from the British Army during the

46:24Crimea war. When at Baqlava it was so cold in the winter they didn't get their winter clothes, so they started wearing things over their face soldiers, and they called them the Baqlava people. But they're channeling a lot of things. They're channeling the anger with France that these people come from somewhere, and they're not taking a boat to Britain. Trust me from Syria or from Ethiopia. They're coming from the mainland of Europe, and they're green-lighted mostly by France and Belgium, which are saturated with on-assimulated and often antipthetical immigrants. And so they just keep coming and coming and coming, and what's making it even worse is the British economy, like the Canadian economy, like a lot of European economies, went whole hog on green energy. So the kilowattage is twice what it is in the United States. They do not explore for North Sea oil.

47:26They don't have any of the wealth of Norway. They're on a committed suicidal route economically. It's becoming higher taxes, higher taxes, more social welfare, highest probably in Europe, and the quality of life goes down. The GDP per capita goes down. And these people are saying, they're starting to use that word, juxtaposition, indigenous. It was always there. I was noticing in this 2015 story, people that are portrayed as characters of the 1960s and identify themselves as indigenous, so-called white people. But they're just basically saying, there's no freedom in Britain. We have no say. They won't hold on election. We don't have regular scheduled elections. It's the majority party has a certain time limit. They know they're going to be out the moment they put it on the ballot. We're frustrated. And we know we can be arrested, not just for demonstrating, but even for saying, I'm against illegal immigration. This is destroying Britain, so they put

48:28mask on. And they don't know what to do with them, because they know what's funny about all these things. In Germany, in Britain, they know that the next election will doom them. The next election will doom them. It took hold really when they looked at the United States in 2017 when Trump came in, and he started to build a wall. And then they looked again when Biden came back and the disaster. When they looked at those 10,000 a day coming to the United States, they said, we're on our own. There's no guidance from the United States. And then when Trump came back, and now they're learning, well, what the left said was a big lie. We need systematic, comprehensive immigration reform. No, you didn't. You just needed a new president to enforce existing laws. And there is no illiteration. And then Trump said, you can deport people. We've done it already. Three million, we deported. And we're going to try to deport all 10 million.

49:29You can do it. That message came out. How that's going to affect the US midterms? I don't know, because I would say because of the media and because of the war and the price of gas, anybody, there's people in the independence in some apostates who are going to vote democratic, but I don't know see because as soon as those people get in, and they won't quite be able to do it unless they win the House and the Senate with big majorities, but they're going to open the border as sure as the sun rises. They don't look at that 10 to 12 million people as an utter disaster. They don't look at Joe Biden and Mallorca's as near criminals in the way that they broke federal law to get constituents. They don't have any sympathy for the 8,500 soldiers and officers who were drummed out of the military for not getting the experimental mRNA vaccination, where 10,000 illegals ran across without any health background and no vaccination. They don't care.

50:33They're going to do it again. So I hope people realize that I do think it's a pan-western, just as a footnote, very quickly, Jack, you sent me a concern from one of our readers, listeners in Israel, that when I said people are getting tired of this, he made a point with legitimate, and I wrote back to him, but he said, well, Victor, when you say you've noticed on social media, or you've noticed in the news, you must understand that the news outlets, social media, YouTube, TikTok, once you go on and you click on something, and they will identify that as one of your interests, and then they will send things or they will selectively filter stories so that when you go back on, you're going to get only one side. He was implying you were in a silo. I wrote him back and he apologized in a way. He was very friendly and I said, I look at the New

51:33York Times website. I look at the Washington Post. I get this, I don't even like it, but it's called Smart News, you've ever seen it. It's a left, it's kind of like the Drudge Report. It's mostly left wing, and they are, if I have cancer and I have Googled what is the proper course for chemotherapy on this? They know that information so they send me cancer stories, but most of them are left wing that they send. Then when people send me stuff, you're doing a great job, Victor, here's something that confirms your point in human nature being what is. It's more like, well, I kind of agree with you, but you should see this or have you considered that. That's where I get my news. The other thing is I just watch news. When I say people are getting sick of it, I look at Nike. When they did the Dylan

52:36Milvone, Mavant Vainey ads, and they went woke with Colin Kaepernick. They lost $250 million of market capitalization. Their stock is crashed. When Bud Light did the Mavani ads, they almost ruined Bud when Target started doing the trends, I don't know what those were, bathing suits and stuff. Children's clothes. People got started. That's not predicated on the news. That's predicated on consumer preferences. Take Cracker Barrel, even a lot of cracker barrel. Same thing. People argue. The majority are getting sick of it. There is a wild card. That is Donald Trump creates strong passions. The people who like him are the most loyal supporters of any candidate that we've ever had. The people who despise him are more active in that hatred than we've ever seen before. They hated Reagan, but they didn't wake up every morning and say, how can I

53:40damage him and hurt him and destroy him in every sense of the word like they do with Trump? We'll see with the midterms. As I said, 39 of the last 41 midterms, the end party loses seat. So if he were to keep the house, that would be a historic achievement while we were at war with a ran and while we were dealing with high oil prices. Well, Victor, we're going to take a little break and after we do that, we'll come back to quick topics. One, you mentioned Colin Kaepernick will revisit him. Then as this shows up on September 10th, I think we should end with a September 11th story related to, I think, the detestable mayor of New York. Yes. Zaron Mondami. We'll get to these when we come back from these final important messages. Every state is home to significant historic sites that tell the American story, but not every

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55:47Hanson.com. Please do check it out. Tons of free stuff there, but also there are ultra articles and videos. These are things that Victor does exclusively for the blade of Perseus and you can read them. You can watch them two articles a week, one video a week. If you subscribe, it's 650 a month. Stick your toe in the water, but take the whole year. It's $65. That's like two, three months. So if your fan of Victor's writing and his analysis do become a subscriber. Victor, let's call him Capronik. Our friend, my friend, who goes to Rich Lowry as a syndicated column out last couple days. It begins a decade later. Colin Capronik is as tiresome as ever to mark the 10-year anniversary of kneeling during the national anthem, the form of 49ers quarter back is out with a new memoir, The Parallels Fight and an interview with NBC News in advance of the books release, which he clearly imagines as part of a vindication tour. He proved himself as committed to woke racial politics

56:52as he was at the height of his career. He told NBC that his protests about fighting, quote, police killing black folks, unquote, our quote systematic oppression. And quote, Rich goes on to write a lot more, but I think his point is, is this guy still around? Would you please just go away? I thought it was a very good article by Rich, who was a long friend of both of us. He was making the point in a very subtle way that Capronik was never a great athlete. He had a great one year, one or two years. He was a better than average quarterback, but it didn't last very long. And he charts his descent into hyperpartisan extreme politics with his own failing ability as a quarterback. So out of that, he found an excuse to say that this system was stacked

57:54against him. And therefore, he never got another chance to reclaim that glorious, I think 2012 or 2013 when he did pretty well. That's the argument that he used. And he also, I think, which was a gentleman enough not to say that he also started to date a radical Islam woman from the Middle East, who was pro-Hama all about and really turned an A political person into a political person. And with the declining his declining career and his girlfriend's influence, he developed this sense of victimhood. And then he basically accused the NFL who was right in the throws of post-George Floyd. And soon COVID, where you looked at those stands and they were empty. And then when COVID started to wane, remember the NFL had a very sluggish recovery because people

58:56were getting sick of the take a knee and not standing for the national anthem. And that conspired when people got back out of COVID. And they done, seen four years of this take the knee stuff, they were sick of it. And they knew he was a mediocre quarterback. Believe me, had he been a black archie manning somebody like that? They wouldn't have cared what he did. They could have taken both knees. He could have done summer solts. They would have put him back in. He had chances, but he was never a good quarterback. And another thing that people don't understand, he was obsessed with race before this happened. He had been fined by the NFL. Remember Jack for calling an African American player a inward when he got an argument with him. He said, you in. It wasn't white people that he, he couldn't say this particular white person said the inward because he did it. The other thing

59:59to remember was he was the product of a mixed marriage were a black father and a white mother had him. And then the black father disappeared from the scene. And the mother was at an age where she was not able to take care of him. Hence, this traditional white rural family was it from Minnesota or Michigan. I don't remember. But they were cappernick. It was a, I think that's a Dutch or German name. So they raised him and an inner and basically a white household. So he developed as he grew up. He was around largely white people and he did not have an ethnic accent at all. He had a so-called white suburban or white rural accent. So then as put and that didn't bother him at all. In fact, you can make the argument that adopted family was wonderful to him and explained his

1:01:00education, his ability to speak well, everything. But once he didn't to do well and once he got angry that his physical performance was not earning him the adulation and the money and the compensation. And he had this new girlfriend that was telling them constantly that evil white people were doing to this, doing to him. Then he also added another layer of victimhood by saying he had been raised by white people who were racist and did not allow his full expression of his real ethnic identity, which was half African-American. And that was the same phenomenon you saw with Barack Obama. He never identified with his white family, even though his grandmother worked her way up from a clerk to president or vice president of the bank. When she died, I think she gave him and his sister $400,000. They paid for his prep school. And yet when he

1:02:07campaign, he said that his grandmother was a typical white person. And when she saw a big black man walking next to her and she was in the car, you could hear the locks click. I'm sure Jesse Jackson clicked his car locks. Yes. And I'm sure Barack Obama locked his car too. Why? Because they didn't like black people? No, because they look at the crime statistics and they say two and a half percent make up the population. And that two and a half in the population that two and a half percent are black males between the ages of 15 and 30. And they account for 50 percent of most violent crime. And so they just play the odds. If it was somebody that looked like a zebra or somebody who was a pink person or purple, they would do the same thing. If somebody said tomorrow, everybody with purple hair, that group, and they only make up two and a half percent of the population have purple hair. And they account for 50 percent of the crime. Then believe me.

1:03:13And if we get this trend where trans people are 0.001 percent and you look at major mass shootings and they're overrepresented, then you will also see a statistical reluctance. And that's the way it is. Is it fair? Maybe it should be. No, there's something. No, it's not. It's not. Yeah, it's not normal. Normal means something. It's supposed to mean something. Hey, Victor, we have a hard stop here for you because there's tons of things you have to do as this book is your best seller is emerging onto the country. But let's just wrap up the show today with a take on Zora and Mamdami. Let me just read this from New York Post. The mayor is facing backlash after giving a ceremonial pen from a 9-11 remembrance ceremony. He gave the pen to a top page who once represented a convicted al-Qaeda member whose brother-in-law hijacked the plane that struck the Pentagon, Mamdami signed executive orders Friday. So this would be like a week ago from

1:04:19when the show's airing ahead of the 25th anniversary of the attacks, etc., etc. I'm not going to read anything. But then he actually handed the pen over to this guy. This was not a whoops moment. This was him deliberately giving this pen to this one. It seemed like 10-12 people around him when he was doing this. This man, I think, is just pure evil for him. He is. I don't think that people have fully appreciated what you just said. Now, everybody think of this situation. This is a commemoration. He takes the pen and the person that he wants to give it to who is the most important person other than himself at this signing is not to be found at his side. She's in the shadow. I think her name was Kassim. So he turns around and who does he pick? He picks Miss Tish, his police superintendent or the director of the entire NYPD. Now, why does he pick her? He picks her, I think,

1:05:26between for two reasons. Number one, he wants to send a message to NYPD and two, she's Jewish. She's the heir to the Lowes' fortune. And her family has been very prominent in New York, Jewish philanthropy. So basically, if you think of that, I'm a socialist and I want to get under the skin of everybody in America. So I'm going to go out of my way in 9-11 to show you that I don't believe or I don't sympathize. I'm going to take the Ilian Omar position that something happened that day, as she said. And I'm going to get a ceremonial pen. I'm not going to give it to a survivor. Ken, I'm not going to get it to the fire chief. I'm not going to get it to NYPD who are so heroic. I'm going to give it to someone who defended radical Islamists and had a in-law connection with the people who slaughtered 3,000 people. And I'm going to do it publicly.

1:06:29Now, you're not going to see her because that's going to be even more tricky and insidious. But I'm going to give it to the ranking Jewish person on my staff and tell her like a servant to pass it on as if she's just a lackey. He's a very mean person. He really is. And he tries to, he tries to, you know, when he says, I'm going to go after white whiteer neighborhoods or he kind of, oh, I I kind of sort of was prompt protecting that demonstration outside of Jewish child. That's what he does. He's like El Sayed is the same thing. Yeah. He's a force like many on the left force for chaos and destruction. Yeah. This is the other policies are where you're a landlord which meets your own buildings. And you don't have to be a bad landlord. And whether you're a, any landlord, you're going to suffer under this administration. If you own a bodega, which I'm not sure, frankly,

1:07:30if bodega is a mostly Hispanic on me, the word bodega is Hispanic, but that could be a significant Indian population that runs on some, but still, if you own a bodega, you're getting screwed because we're creating these, these city food markets that are going to undercut you. He doesn't, well, he, he, what is his objective? His objective, I think, is that chaos. He wants to cause chaos. He wants to, he wants to express hatred. He can't stand people who are conservative. He's a racist. He's a racial supremacist. He is arrogant. And he's an utter anti-Semite. He hates Israel because Israel's on a polygetic, strong, confident powerhouse shouldn't happen. It should be impossible that 8 million Jews in a country of 10, 11 million people could not be the economic and military powerhouse

1:08:35of the entire Middle East, but they are. And he hates that fact, just like a mosque, it hates it. And just like Al-Saheed hates it. And just like Hassan Parker gets so angry, he says, I want to make a point that no one running for president and our party, our party, will be able to support Israel. And I want to warn you, Jews, if you keep supporting Israel, something's going to happen. I mind you, something's going to happen to you. That was a direct threat. And that's what they do. And then there was a great novel by Thomas Wolf. You can't go home again and look home, we're danger. And he took an old term and he popped right. The wounded fawn. And that's somebody who gets to a point where all they can think of, all the slights and damage that people did to them, and they get to the point where they're just full of anger and venom. And he's got a character,

1:09:35he calls one of his friends who says that he's become a wounded fawn. And that's what Al-Saheed and all these people are. They feel that they've been, even though Hassan Parker is a multi-millionaire and inherited, even though Hassan Parker is driving a Porsche, even though Saeed made 650,000 last year, even though Mondami is a settler colonialist. He's part of a non-indigenous Indian expatriate community put into Uganda by the British crown in the age of imperialism to control the economy and the politics of the British rule in Uganda. And that one percent has 65% of the capital. That's where all Mondami comes. And he knows that. And so he projects and hates white people, hates imperialism and calls the Israelis with a 3500 year

1:10:36pedigree in the Middle East settler colonialist. And that's what he is. He's, yeah. That's what a lot of Socialists are. They're neilists and they're very damn. And once they get in power, believe me, they run, they're running in this midterm. Talleriko, you would think that he was a carnivore that is a fundamentalist preacher, a church of Christ fundamentalist. And you would think that he's got a wife and three kids somewhere and he's never lived with his mommy or met his girlfriend in a gay bar or any of that stuff. And you would think that El Sayed loves football and he works out the gem and his Arab Islamic roots or incidental to who he is. He just, you never, all of that will dissipate. That's like Kamala Harris telling us for 150, 140 days that she was for fracking. She

1:11:39was for deportations. She was for more drilling. She was for the wall. And now, no, no, no. She's back to where she really is before she said all that. That was just cover. And had she been elected, she would have continued to, but to the left of Joe Biden. Do not trust them because they know that people do not want their agenda. So they hide them and mask them. And then they tease you about it even. And that's what he was doing here. He was teasing. He was kind of winking and nodding to all of his Islamists and supporters. Hey, you guys, watch this. Watch how I humiliate these stupid white people and this Jewish woman. And I'm going to give this pen to somebody who actually had a brother-in-law that slaughtered the 3,000. And I'm going to do it on the day that we're commemorating their loss. But I'm not going to have her here. I'm going to have my Jewish head of NYPD. And therefore NYPD metaphorically itself to deliver the pen, to deliver the pen to

1:12:42this hateful person. How do you like that? Yeah. That's how he thinks. Well, the word, we hear socialism, Victor. And I think many people think it's Swedish socialism, Norwegian, etc. European socialism of the 1950s genre, which just seems foolish. But these socialists are more of the Stalin purge trial 1930s. And there's no hiding from them. There won't be any hiding from them. I take power. So yeah, I just would remind people, the Soviet Union, the USSR was the United Socialist Soviet Republics. It was not the United Soviet Communist Republic. They used the word social. Every communist country never used the word communist. They always used socialist, not because they were socialist, but because they saw that communism turned off people. And they didn't see any difference between the two. So when the USSR said they were socialist, they assumed

1:13:44that everybody in the right mind knew they were communist. It was just a PR for people who wanted to be accepted and said, I'm not an outright commie. But there's no difference really in them because socialist always gravitate toward communism, especially as it gets more and more unpopular. Well, Victor, we've got a hard stop here. I want to wish you, again, we're talking on Monday the 7th. You got a busy week ahead of you. I know talking about the book and I want to wish you the best of luck in that. I'm sure our listeners and readers do too. And if they haven't bought the book yet, go to Victor's website. You'll find a link or go to Amazon. I think they'll like it. Not a rara. Trump is the divine entity. It's how does somebody survive when the majority culture or intellectual, cultural powers decide that he is a minister's civilization. They're going to destroy him and every aspect of the word. And then how do you survive that? And then how do you

1:14:48come back and run a campaign? And how do you win that campaign? And then how do you govern when you're in your late 70s and 80 years old? And they've done that. And I think people will be shocked when you they read the first two or three chapters about the Marlago raid or the debaliting or January 6th or the assassinations or the reactions of I'll be frank, I quote generals chapters in verse what they said. I quote all of these people what they said and what they did. It's pretty shocking. Yeah. Well, it's a great work, Victor. Congratulations. Sorry, folks. Well, for me, simple thoughts, please sign up, cybalthoughts.com. You'll get my free weekly email news that are every Friday of 14 recommended readings. You've been terrific Victor. Thanks so much. Folks, we'll be back soon with another episode of Victor Davis Hanson in his own words and God bless America and God rest those who died, who were murdered and who sacrificed their lives on September 11th.

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