VSiN By The Books | September 9, 2026 | Hour 3

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2:07V sports betting network. Top of the hour. It is Vison by the books on this Wednesday morning opening night. The NFL weekend not wait Dave Ross right here at the men gaming hall. Franklin Kentucky. It's going to be poppin behind me at circus sports here in Kentucky. Our closing agents to the Lewis back home in Cleveland, Ohio. I know you're getting ready for tonight tomorrow night as well in Melbourne. We'll be have a little sleep deprivation, but for a very good reason here for the NFL. I'm going to debut the money line marathon coming up in a little bit. You can play along with us at home. We're going to tell you our bank roll sizes here and the place that we have for those money lines here in week number one. The great West Reynolds joins the program as well with our best bets. And I do have a Genshin Lewis inspired cross board parlay that I've added to the show as well. So that's all coming up. Genshin, but we know what goes up must come down. Let's get to it this week's edition of stock up in stock down. By low sell high as long as you have a reason why.

3:08Whose reputation is sorry and who's on the verge of collapse? It's stock up stock down. Boy, sometimes you're betting those first halfs. You want to win the coin toss. You've won it this week. Genshin, you have elected to receive your first stock up is who? The cirka millions. I cannot wait. We obviously were one of the trailblazers here to do a joint entry for the show and the content back for year two on the joint entry. My first year going solo as well and very excited to be able to debut our first of many top tens that we will reveal in real time. It's one of the great exercises on the network. We appreciate those that have tailed many of our selections and made a large profit during football season. We hope to give you that opportunity again this year for what it's worth. Congratulations, Derek Stevens, Mike Palm, Jeff Benson, the entire crew there at Circus Sports, the circus survivor as of what 24 hours ago already over the 20 million guaranteed

4:13for the DC Mo already over for the guarantee. And I'm sure it's gone up since then. Maybe the boys and Vegas can tell us in the break. We are at 4,700 plus entries right now for cirka millions. So we're almost there for the guarantee on that. So 30 million was the guarantee. I think we're going to get there probably by kickoff, I think on Sunday. So cirka millions stock up. Yeah, I cannot wait. And again, as we've said here, it is simply the greatest football contests in the world. And I'll put those up against anybody's out there. It's in that same vein, Jensen. It's just the NFL and our buddy Tyler Fuljum does a great job at ESPN these days. Tyler said to me years ago that the NFL is America's drug and it really is. It's the best way to phrase it. We need it. We got to have it and we're going to watch it. We're going to bet it. And the NFL is back in our lives tonight. A kid about the sleep deprivation. I don't care because I'm going to watch anyway regardless. This is what the NFL means to this country.

5:15What it means to us as sports fans out there and certainly as better. So we can't wait to kick this thing off tonight here and as a network as well. I mean, that's what Vison is. I mean, we love this. We love football. We love betting it. We're going to try to make it profitable for you as well. So the NFL is back in our lives and we could not be happier. I hope one day it doesn't go by the way of boxing or horse racing, which we're once kings in this country. The NFL is king and I hope it stays there for a long, long time. Yeah, they got issues. We'll talk about those issues, too. We'll argue about the ones we love, but the NFL is king in this country. And I hope it remains so for quite some time. All right. Before we get the games kicked off, Dave, there is an American tradition unlike any other. And that's tailgating in the art form that is tailgating has really evolved since the dawn of time. I don't know what the cavemen did, but I'm sure it was similar to getting everyone around the fire, getting everyone together and having times of joy, whether you do it as an amateur,

6:17whether you do it as a professional everywhere in between. My high salute to you today begins the professional side. I am anxious to see what the Australians do. Dananda, what is their version of tailgating? Will there be American infusion? Will there be fusion of dishes and frivolity? And some fosters be there. There is going to be a lot of love around the tailgate tents. And so stock up to all of you men and women who brave the elements, both warm, cold and all in between. You are the heroes that we don't deserve, but you are the heroes that we need each and every week. You know, you've got some great friends out there, Jensen. And a lot of times we'll talk on the phone as well, but sometimes we'll face time, too, especially if it's a group setting. We want to see each other's face. I've got one of those great friends. That's Tim Doyle. He goes to FaceTime, me, right? Doesn't have to call. He wants to FaceTime. And so we see each other and talk face to face. And he puts his young son on the phone yesterday and Vince the prince, as we call him,

7:17Vinnie, who is I think he's like three now? I don't know. I can't keep track of these kids these days, Jensen. And he says, who's your favorite player? And I'm like, this kid even no baseball. And he goes, PCA. And I'm like, oh, my goodness, P-Crow Armstrong, your stock is so up that we got three year olds in Chicago, calling out your name. These are going to be like generational players now for all time for kids growing up in Chicago. That's what Pete grow Armstrong. He's going to win the MVP. This is kind of insane if you go back to the beginning of the year and think about where he has come. And his stock cannot be higher. Is he the best defensive centerfielder in the game? I think you can make a strong case that he is. What does he mean to the Cubs? Everything. Where did they get him? New York in a trade for a Javier Bias. Don't remind me. But when three year old Vince the Prince says, PCA, I'm going to get that daily reminder that the Cubs have a guy that should be in New York right now.

8:18And he's going to win an MVP in Chicago, the North side. Your stock has never been higher and it can't get any higher or PCA. Jensen, what does go off? It does sadly have to come down. No, whoa, have you come down yet? And LSU and Beton Rouge, what happened to the Clemson Tigers? Well, 51 to 10. Is it the worst loss for Davos, sweetie? And look, I'm not going to get on Davos too badly for what happened after the game, right? Before the game, you had a lot of things to say about Lane Kiffin and LSU and what they're doing over there. Well then I had to change my tune a little bit because he was asked a question that I think is a fair question to ask about where Davos is in 2026 football and how he puts his team together. Take a listen to this Q&A. I don't, man. I regret being over one right now. I regret that. But now we're, we're, what can you ask me at the end of the season, you know, the season

9:19in over. I mean, we got one game. We got to love more. Well, if we go to love me one, you promised me you asked me that then. Okay. All right. But I'm not answering questions like that, you know, Chapel. I know that's your role and that's in this environment, you know, to be the, to be the guy that wants to create all the controversy and ask the controversial questions. If that's who you are, it's fine. I get it. But I'll answer that in and say, we played one game. One game, all right? If you, did you play football? No. Okay. Well, they give you 12 games and at the end of the year, you count them up. I like dabbo, but when you do the old, did you play football thing that, that reeks of I'm out of an argument here. And now I'm going to do a personal attack. Jensen, you know, look, as a former player, you could always do that, right? You know that you, because you played the game, dabbo played the game at a very high level at Alabama, too. And he's coaching to the highest level of two national championships.

10:19That's not a good look, dabbo. Don't need it. Sadly for you right now, your stock is way down. All right. Now go quickly on my first stock down, the Detroit Tigers, man, put them to bed. The Cleveland Guardians did over the weekend, three walkoff losses in four games. And of course they go out and beat the twins the first game back home. Outside of Seattle, most disappointing team in Major League Baseball this year, all the expectations, all the things they could have done a very winnable American like central. Don't know what the future looks like for this group. You have flashes of what could be great, what could not be. I think Detroit has some questions to answer this offseason, a very disappointing finish to 2026. Yeah, my last stock down right now is going to be four to state. And I hate to kind of pick on them a little bit to hear Jensen, because after what happened with Clemson as bad as that looked, you know, four to say didn't look as bad. But SMU did everything to give them the game. They still couldn't win it. Then you get the blues from Mike Norvell, year number seven there. It's a proud university. You got a lot of good friends there that play there.

11:20Certainly Brian McFadden comes to mind here. And they're the alumni are not very happy about what's happening there. I don't know if Dehons Sanders is the right guy one day to come back to four to state, but Jensen, they need something. This is not good for a blue blood in college football like four to state to be this down in the ACC. It's one thing to be down at big 10 or in the SEC, but this down in the ACC has not good news for four to state. Your stock is way down. They we do all kinds of things as men for the women we love. If you go back in time, wars were started for those gentlemen that believed they could show strength, honor, fortitude, things that were enticing, attractive to females out there and say, yeah, you know what, I want to build a life with you. We are now in a position come football season, we're across roads of our time presents itself each year.

12:21The weekend asks to go to pumpkin patches or apple orchards. Now for you gentlemen and for you ladies that are listening out there because it does go both ways. Yeah, when that ask is made and I know children could be involved and maybe you've got family outings things of that nature. I'm anxious to hear negotiations. If you want to email us by the books at visa.com, if you are someone that is at to deal with this most incredibly difficult life decision, do I go to the pumpkin patch or do I stay home and watch the football game? Do I go to that apple orchard with a girl that I really like or do I have to letter down easy and say, I don't know about you, but this late window has so much action. I can't afford to miss it. So to you ladies and gentlemen out there that do the right thing and save those apple orchard and pumpkin patch outings for the middle of the week when there is no football schedule. My high salute to you, but let's not bury the lead.

13:24This is the worst time of the year for those activities to happen. Stock way down love pumpkins love apples. Just don't need to go do all that stuff on a football Saturday or something. I am a published author of Dynasty Restore through the eyes of their number one fan. And in the book, I did mention that I have skipped many a wedding and many a pumpkin patch and apple orchard outing. And yes, it's cost me sometimes and maybe it's the reason why I'm still single. When we come back money on marathons, we're going to kick that off next right here on visa. Football is back. Yep, you heard correctly. Football is back and on polymarket, you can trade on what you think will happen against other fans before kickoff. Chat live with the polymarket community and get their thoughts and then take your own stance and kickoff doesn't mean you're locked in. Trade live in game and exit whenever you want is the game changes or combine multiple trades into one trade with polymarket combos. Now live in the app and football is just the start.

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15:29We've got a lot to get to before we turn it over to Gillal, Xander and Kelly Bidlin coming up next. And a numbers game. We are going to get our best bets out there. Our Wednesdays with West Reynolds coming up here. But Jensen, we are so excited. We've been talking about it all summer and we did it in conjunction with kind of what's going on with a lot of contests out there whether it's circa survivor or the like but a very new segment that you can play along with and profit from as well at home. It's time to debut our money line marathon every winner earns another mile every loser ends the race. This is money line marathon. Oh, I like it. Get that running man. If you remember that movie from Arnold Schwarzenegger back in the day. Great. So we're going to try to run that marathon. That's interesting. We wanted just to tell the people exactly what we're thinking in the context of this money line marathon in that you can run it however you want to run it.

16:30We are not going to adhere to the circle rules that you cannot repeat a pick by all means you can. We're going to try to make this as profitable as possible but we're going to do the journey with you with real money that we're putting in as well different increments that we're going to do. And we're going to try to figure out ways that maybe you want to stop maybe want to take the cashout. You want to let it roll. You can go for as long as you want to go but kind of four track plans that we're going to lay out to begin this marathon. Hopefully we each go for no we got more decisions to go in week two but that's the way we're going to begin laying out our money line marathon. What do you have for the people and how did you start this journey? Yeah so my mentality for this competition for people that kind of want to see behind the curtain of where I wanted to make this a week to week but a roll over in the spirit of a survivor contest yet not adhering to the hard and fast criteria of A you can only pick a team once.

17:31B if you lose that doesn't mean we're done for the year. So you'll see by first selections they're probably around even money. Even more towards the dogs and a couple of and one gargantuan swing to try and get out ahead by a very wide margin. Let me start with one with the Pittsburgh Steelers minus a dollar 60. I'm going to start each entry day with $100 and we're going to roll over the winnings each week. The Steelers at home against the Falcons again $100 to win 60 if we win that we roll the 160 over into week two dolphins money line on the road against the Raiders that is plus a dollar 63 so 100 to win 163 15 was the exact payout that I had we win that we roll that over. The big swing is the Cardinals and if you're just joining us you know that I have subscribed to the week one chaos theory and I absolutely believe that if there is some issues with that offensive

18:31line for the chargers that maybe just maybe the Cardinals are that not only survivor bomb that goes off in week one but that's a massive payday for us here to begin money line marathon 100 to win 426 31 we win that day we're rolling over a cool 526 31 to week number two finally week one ends at Arrowhead Stadium and we get the Broncos and the Chiefs you know me I think the Broncos are back to defend I think they do get to the top of the AFC West it's got to start with a big divisional matchup against one of their rivals in the Kansas City Chiefs so $100 to win 133 that would give us 233 rolling over now in the spirit of survivor Dave it's one selection per week so this isn't a money line parlay each week if you will this is a rolling over of the money line which eventually you can kind of see the thought process will end up being a parlay week over week so

19:34again I took some bigger swings early more even money to underdog side and of course the Cardinals over 4 to 1 so here is the method to the madness here let's say for instance the Cardinals do not get across the line in entry number three we'll restart in week two it will be one single selection and we'll restart that entry because here's what we're hoping let's say we get to week eight week nine we've got a couple of these entries rolled over for various price points at that point you and I will have a discussion here and we hope many of you will with us do we take some of the profit do we continue to let it ride and if there is a team that has really gotten off to a great start we are not bound by the only picking one team and then they're done we can go back to the well if we find a cash cow we want to ride the highs with them because Dave it's all about the money line here it's not a spread it's a money line marathon rolling this over as many times

20:35as we can and then we put the choice in our hands of how much profit do we want to take do we want to not take any at all do we want to keep riding this thing out so our hope is that you guys kind of understand yes there's there's survivor DNA to this because it is just one selection for each entry each week on the money line but we are not bound by traditional survivor rules in this marathon competition and we want to pull back the curtain when we started discussing this a couple months ago my first thought process was to follow the circa rules right to have almost like a show entry but at a smaller because since then I have multiple plays out there in millions and other things but we wanted to have that survivor feel to it so I did it a little bit differently and this is why I love what you did and I did mine slightly differently here and I just took one unit just a hundred dollars and I broke that down into four plays of four equal denominations of $25 that's

21:36I did a much smaller scale Jensen with a much larger scale but think about Jensen if he gets that Arizona home right away technically if he wanted to Jensen could cash out right there and have three entries that are still rolling conceit will be on house money right that's the idea as to why you're trying to do what you're trying to do mine's going to be a little bit slower of a build here early on now my chance that I'm taking here in week one in my play here for money my marathon is Tennessee and I've talked a lot about them on the program today I've talked a lot about them on the program this summer so my money is where my mouth is I took two of my four entries and I played the Titans on a money line price of minus a dollar 25 so that's not going to net me a whole lot coming back 45 bucks right but what I'm hoping for if I can kind of get them out again we don't have to adhere you could play just the big favorites if you want to all of the Jacksonville Jaguars which will be a very popular choice in a lot of survivor leagues this week but the return there is only

22:3931 25 not a lot of bang for the buck but I wanted to take one quote unquote safe entry in week one to get that through and then quote unquote the riskier propositions would be the steers only is three point favorites but look at that the money line prices still kind of hefty a minus a dollar 80 and Jensen and I align on the steers on one of our selections but again in theory I'm going to try to map out different teams as the show goes in that survivor style that we're bringing to you here and be seen by the books but to Jensen's point we can pivot at any point we're not bound to the circus survivor rules so the idea is I like Tennessee this week so it's not just to make a play to make a play I really like them to win this game and that's why I've played them here minus a dollar 25 for two of my four entries now at some point I'd like to get look only have to get back to plus a hundred to eventually get your money back and then play on house money I think we should

23:41be able to get there hopefully in a couple weeks time that's the goal and the same scale obviously for Jensen's plays being at one unit each for his four plays but that's the way I've packed it out because I do and we talked about it along this program I think week one is the most difficult do dissect in Jim Moore voice you think you know but you really don't know and you know what you're never willed and that was to a reporter and I think we have a better idea of what's going to happen in week one but I do think it's volatile and that's why I've tried to space these house out as best I can so my track playing here for week number one is going to be half of my tickets two of those tickets on Tennessee to beat the jets and then I probably will not be coming back to Tennessee for a long time if at all move for better options out there to monetize those tickets and start that money line marathon the Jags I do like but I got to be honest with you this is not a team I'm very high on overall so I'm willing to play that that bigger price point this week and lay it against the brownies here in week one look at Lanna all summer if you would ask me if you thought

24:44that I'd have one of those entries to be the Steelers I would have said no a couple months ago but quarterback room for the ATL has be concerned I as the summer went on I mentioned this obviously in the 2.0 betting guide here this is a team I like more and more and I've played their over eight and half win total I've played them outright to win this division to go back to back with another Mike big Mike instead of Mike Tom and now Mike McCarthy there Jensen those are the four track plans that I've taken to on Tennessee one on Jacksonville one on Pittsburgh to get this money line marathon started and boy I hope in a couple weeks we've already doubled our profit and at bigger fish to fry as the weeks continue that's the idea of the money line marathon so the dream is to be alive at Thanksgiving having rolled over and and I hope one of my entries I'm going to try and be holding to as close to even odds as possible for each one right if I can get through week 12 week 13 we have a chance at a million dollars and so that's the hope is that if one of them you can do it

25:47and again this is a week to week thing this is the beautiful discussion we're not worried about hey I got to pick one team I'm trying to look for that opportunity to make six hopefully seven digits we're having fun with it people good luck to start this week one we hope you tail each and every week it's all about ROI come along on that money line marathon with Jensen and I our money is where our mouth is best bets are straight ahead next Vs and by the books you're too dendipheason by the books right here on visa we are back and football season is back as well so if you think you've got what it takes to battle that with the pros you can do so in the average Joe contest so I have to do is it's free to play when you sign up with an edge boost account that's the edge boost average Joe contest and they're

26:51going to offer its customers a thousand dollar deposit if you finish first for the week so if you don't have an edge boost account sign up at edge boost dot IO use the promo code visa and make sure your count is funded with at least one hundred dollars and with the contest today at vson.com that's vsin.com slash j o e and it's the same format as the circuit friday football invitational hosted by the great mag humans and that is the one that the pros play so if you've got what it takes you to no longer be average and be an expert like we have here at vson we appreciate everybody that reaches out to us whether it's social media or the like you can email the show always at by the books at vson.com got some great inquiries today as well we always ask hey where you watching where you listening to us from and let us know what's on your mind today this was an interest email from kacy cook I think ls you we've been talking a lot about ls you and the vote that's going to happen tomorrow at the scc might actually kick them out kacy says I think ls you might want out of the scc anyway and become an independent like Notre Dame and play

27:53no one who shots fired go eleven and one every year and waltz into the playoff and not have to share the money any longer etc. I think that's how delusional they are and that the state and greed of college football is they may be playing a strange game of chess kacy thank you for the email I kid tend to or Tim Murray rather here in the network every year about Notre Dame you play nobody you get any boy they actually have a guarantee by the college football playoff committee that they finish in the top 12 they're in I mean it's bizarre we have that cause for one team out there but if ls you wants to go rogue like Notre Dame would he make a kacy's point that hey maybe this would be better off in a long term for ls you kacy I appreciate the creativity here but it does mean more in the southeastern conference both financially and status wise Notre Dame is eventually going to join a conference that will happen especially once we get to the expanded playoff there's going to be changing dynamics we may be down to just two super conferences when it's all

28:57said and done but I appreciate the creativity of it I do like that ls you not that kind of brand all across the way that that people would be like oh yeah readily recognizable and followable the way Notre Dame is across the country so but I I can see where kacy's coming from no question about it yeah yeah we'll find out I think it's a whole to do about nothing we'll find out they're really playing this this standoff here with the league and I can't I just be shocking with the first week the NFL we're talking about ls you being an independent come Friday I don't see that happening but stranger things have happened we do appreciate all the emails and the text we got this from my jump ball I says at D Ross sports there's only 600 parking spots at the cricket grounds in Australia not sure how much tailgating gents as we alluded to early in the program we'll be going on lol you know we were kind of kidding about this talking to Thomas Gable who'll be on the program on Friday as he always does about how this is kind of a national holiday down there in Australia for the Rams and Niners I know you like the Niners side tailgating notwithstanding I just feel like could

30:00they have a home field advantage in Australia if that's possible yeah they definitely will and and again you don't you're not beholden to being in a parking lot at the stadium to tailgate you can do it anywhere all right and and I'm not I'm not worried about the Bobby's that are going to be going on all over that great continent when we get to tomorrow morning and afternoon so I do like the Niners I did play them on the money line I think we are going to get a crash course Monday or excuse me Friday morning on on which of the the preparation methods were best would it be the Niners getting out there for about a week's time would it be the Rams on Ram Force one we appreciate them having Vison by the books tuned in on their charter flight out to to Melbourne I think the Niners win the game I think the Patriots win the game tonight I do have some other plays here Dave let me also give you one on the college gridiron and this line came up two teams in the flyover states that have

31:07started to develop a bit of rivalry and I'm sure many of them tuning in in Kansas and Missouri a little border war there that that I looked at the line I'm like I can get six and a half with the J Hawks I they both open with blowouts against FC S opponents so no big deal Austin Simmons actually look pretty good the Ole Miss transfer therefore Missouri 17 of 19 for four touchdowns Mizzou did win in Columbia last year in this match up 42 to 31 this is the first time in Lawrence that they've met since 2005 I think Kansas keeps this close I don't think they win give me like 27 24 31 27 I think that is where I would put it for the J Hawks and then three dogs on the NFL week one slate to go with my other 200 dogs already Patriots plus a dollar 67 tonight Niners plus a dollar 70 tomorrow against the Rams let me start you and I on opposite

32:07sides of this one really do we see a Lewis Ross administration at odds but we will I will take the New York Jets plus a dollar 14 is a multi unit play for me I know the story lines Robert Salah the revenge angle his Titans debut came Ward year two against Brian Dable or excuse me with Brian Dable against you know Smith will breeze hall be a guy that can be a difference maker we hope that he is give me the Jets alive dog there plus a dollar 14 also the Miami Dolphins this will be a very interesting survivor selection Dave you and I had kind of looked back and forth you'll where would we be here and in a week one of unpredictability I will take the dolphins plus a dollar 60 not as clean for me as the Jets but I still think that we have an opportunity with Jeff Halfley to come in Malik Willis the dynamic with him the on H and I think they do enough there to stay within a possession into the fourth quarter maybe it's that final drive Malik Willis get some

33:08across the line I'll take the Dolphins Dubs at the Raiders plus a dollar 60 and finally I know it's going to be a big survivor selection a lot of people going to be on who's got it better than we do nobody I guess what it might be the Cardinals being better than the Chargers give me the Cardinals biggest dog in week one plus four forty three forget the points give me the money line let's go Jacobi Per set he might throw for 500 yard he might have to throw for 500 yards to be able to beat the Chargers but I think he and Tramick bride I think Michael Wilson fresh contract in there Tyler Alger come on down you know I know it's Jeremiah love for the foreseeable future but it's your time to shine it's why they brought she in his eventrin let's see Jacobi Per set air it out 45 50 times Cardinals with the big upset of week one in the NFL they take out the Chargers on Sunday afternoon I gotta say I do think it's the one of the best times to bet dogs

34:10here would be week one like it didn't work out in college football what are the different right that we're seeing with the the haves and the have-nots there but here these are all pros they all put the pants on the same way here and sometimes you're getting those good prices on teams we don't know all about yet we think we know but we really don't know good time to be a dog player there the only one I'm rooting actively against I do like the Titans here in week one I actually played them when they are two and a half point favorites here in week one against the JG S H H H H H H H H this has come down I'm going to rebet it one and a half I've got some money line plays in our money line marathon that we started today here on the program so that is a big decision for me in week one on a team that this is the one I need to get if they're going to be who I think they are which is over six and a half wins I'm banking on this one against the jet so really Robert Sala Bryant table that's why I'm banking on here to get this done against Aaron Glending Company I am on the under in Melbourne under 49 you can still get that out there 48 and a half I still think that's very playable I think you have the same number there as well so the under is going to be a

35:12decision for us tomorrow night here and again hoping that I know Aaron Donald didn't make the trip he's not going to be there that really wasn't part of the handicap for me anyway here for week number one I just think it's more of that kind of slow start to the season I don't think we're come out guns blaze and probably going to look to a first half under as well in that game have not got there officially but under 49 is an official play and the over in tonight's game I did get there late here at 44 and a half I wish I still had the 44s out there to be had but I'm going to play this the second areas we talked about a lot in this program today really lacks a lot I think and I'm kind of worried about the running games a little bit for both teams here with injury to their lead dogs here for both teams if you look at Travion Henderson as lead dog for New England he's not going to be available tonight and I think that puts more of an honest here on Drake May and Sam Donald I think those guys will be fine with that too. I think they're going to be just fine in the passing game here we know Christian Gonzalez got the big deal here for New England at corner but I think Drake may could have a big night as well tonight going to play that over 44 and a half

36:14as an official play here for week one have not gotten to the side Jensen that might be alive ad for me as the game goes again please feel free give a follow on X update those in real time if I make plays as the game is going on by the way live betting for you are you more said and forget it or you're going to be looking for live opportunities as week one kicks off tonight. Absolutely be looking for a middle opportunity tonight if the Patriots do get out to an early lead we'll come back probably on the Seahawks somewhere haven't gotten to the total on this game tonight Dave I actually lean more to the under but we will wait and see as numbers and money come in late cannot wait buddy gonna be a lot of fun absolutely love it we love our conversations with West Reynolds I know he's got a lot of thoughts in the NFL and college football as well they're great West Reynolds lenses with us with West Rather coming up next right here at these maglocks

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38:42the weight is over the NFL season kicks off to night college football already in full swing no better time to be a vason pro subscriber so with this vason pro subscription not only do you get all of our post preseason updates getting you ready for kickoff tonight college football you can still look at all 138 fbs teams break downs on all those squats here as you get ready for week two daily best bets real time betting splits from draft kings and circa a i power prop tools 24-7 video on the visa watch app you can get started for as little as 999 or save 50% off with a vason pro annual subscription head over to vason.com slash subscribe right now that's v s i n.com slash subscribe back alongside gents lose davir us here with you were very excited about this getting a lot of people chiming in on social media about the rams and their travel over to melbourne so gents and I think people are going to be looking at this in very different ways right college and the boys have been over there for quite some time now getting acclimated to melburn ramps I believe is

39:45this like Santa Claus what's that like the norad tracker what do we know where the rams are right now gents and because I think they're still in route. Yeah, they are still in route by the way uh we do have the great west rentals joining us. Of course, host of there we go. The long shots podcast joining us here in the progressive guest line. Wesley great to have you. Would you rather be the the team that goes over uh and has a week to kind of get acclimated there in australia or would you rather be on the bird now hydrating left right and center having to use the laboratory every hour and then be able to jump right back on the burden go home. Well, gents and are the rams awake because they might have stayed up late to watch the shelter now for as match like I did. Yeah, we're we're we're a little bit woozy this morning, but but well we're staying up to walk back plastic, but to answer your question, I would rather be the 49ers, I think, you know, to get just kind of used to the time change, but everybody has a different process for how they prepare and look, uh make base proven he knows what he's doing. Uh we'll we'll see how it is.

40:51The market certainly doesn't think it's a big deal because that number's up to four because it's been all good news for the rams this summer and all bad news for the 49ers. So haven't bet this game yet, but would lean fan Francisco in the spa dash and a hand maybe not as recently, but at least in series history, he's gotten the better of big bay more often than not. Yeah, fascinating that you're seeing some force some three and a half still out there as well. So check the juice on those numbers as they change. We've seen a subtle move here in the game tonight to kick off the NFL season down to three in most spots here. You can still find some rogue three and a half south there. Totals ticked up a little bit to 44 and a half as well tonight here with Seattle and New England to kickstart the season. You know, it's funny, Wes, because normally you think all all season to talk about the Super Bowl matchup. It felt like with New England, we were talking about anything other than this football game tonight. How do you break down Mike Vrable and company going to the Pacific Northwest? Yeah, Dave. And that's one of the reasons I did take New England, even though we're trying to buck the long term trend here at the Super Bowl loser, if I believe is what, six and

41:5520 against the number, the last quarter century in their in their first game. But we're going to try to buck that trend. I took New England tonight. I think another way to play it too is play Seattle under 24 and a half on the team. So do you got to play a little bit extra juice for that? But I think New England, this is good for them to go like across the country with all the distractions, everything that's going on, certainly off the field. And to get that back out there and play the team that beat you last season. And I kind of thought New England was a little bit on the fortunate side. So I guess you could say that there's going to be regression now because they played that easy schedule early last year. Now it's certainly much tougher that you were the AFC champion. But I like the Patriots here. I think it is going to be a low scoring game. So I'm a little surprised that the total has picked up. Maybe not as surprised considering it's the first game of the year and you're getting a lot of the general public involved. And they're certainly going to want to be on the over more often than not than the under. But I thought the line was a little bit

42:57rich here. So I'm on the Patriots. I like it. Let's stay with your neck of the woods here because one of our great parts of the V. Sin NFL betting guy, the original that we've put out the head to head trends each week for each opponent on our NFL schedule. And I know again, the you will have your eyes squarely locked on that is Daniel Jones, the Indianapolis Colts and the Baltimore Ravens getting underway from Lucas Oil Stadium. The trend to bring up to you Colts 10 and 2 ATS the last 12 times and the under the last 15 head to head is hit 13 of the 15 times. You might be going against a decade and a half of a historical trend head to head West Reynolds. What do you got on that? Yeah, I am. I'm going with the over here at 47 and a half. You're right. Indiana Jones did not play in the preseason, but going to be back and hopefully ready to go for gold for gold fans. Obviously that season went awry when he went toward that to kill ease, but

43:57I think that the Colts offense is still going to be very good despite the fact that they're still kind of looking for that number one receiver, right? You know, Michael Pittman now gone to the Steelers and you know, not a lot at least on paper coming back at that position. Very young and unproved, but have a good tight young tight end and Tyler Warren who had certainly had a good rookie year. One of the best running back in Jonathan Taylor. A good offensive line that can run the ball against the Raven team that's a little bit in transition on defense. Now Jesse Minter takes over, got some new faces there. Of course, Lamar certainly can move the ball, found her through the air. So I actually think maybe we get a little bit of a slow start and then in the second half it kind of opens up. I got a lot of questions also about that Colts defense like who's going to run a passer? We've been asked in for a consistent pass rush with Indianapolis since Dwight, Freemian, Robert Mathis have been playing and one of them just went into the hall. They am a couple of years ago. So that's how long it's been that they've had a really consistent pass

44:57rush. And I think that you're in trouble if you don't get one against Lamar Jackson. So over for me and Indianapolis. Well, I got to tell you going back to our green zone days. I don't know anybody does it better than you at those kind of halftime adjustments of that. So I'm already earmarking that maybe an over under first have and look to the over in that second half. He get that slow start and that Ravens Colts game there. I talk about injured quarterbacks coming back here and Monday night we're going to we got two of them. We got Patrick my homes. This seems like he gets all the oxygen in the room because he's Patrick my homes. And yet we're not really talking about bonix and what he's going to look like coming back from devastating injury in the last play of that victory against the Buffalo Bills in the postseason. What do you make of this Monday night clash? By the way, the side it's come down off that key number three down to two and a half and the total sitting there at 44. Yeah, under 44 for me, Dave. One thing we're not talking about is the Broncos defense, which was arguably the best in the league. Certainly Houston was also right up there in that regard. But I just think I think you have a chief team clearly on offense that's

45:58getting a little bit older, you know, still very productive and still very capable. But if you watch these chief teams, especially if they get out to a lead, they are a very slow tempo team. They are not because people think those are so dynamic and high scoring with my homes and Kelsey and company, but they actually really slow it down, work the clock a little bit kind of grind it out. Both these teams, I think, really do that. So I think you're going to see kind of an old school AFD West, maybe like a 20 to 17 type of game. Your guess is as good as mine. Zuz, going to end up winning the game. But I don't see a lot of points here early on. I think you get some slow starts with these two teams. I tend to agree. I like the Broncos outright on Monday night football as well and be very intrigued to see what the aged offense of the Kansas City Chiefs looks like there in arrowhead. Okay, aging not well. That is Michigan, the controversy that has surrounded them this week. The Mac was okay with the rep. No, they're not okay with that we filed an appeal. Michigan was a point to have

47:04favorites in the look ahead line for week two against Oklahoma. They're now five and a half point dogs at home. West, do you buy the line move here or do we think we're kind of overvaluing what we saw in week one? I'm going to go ahead and go and get them at the bottom with the Michigan Wolverine, Serif, plus five and a half a team. I'm not that high on like I think that they're probably gents and like an eight and four team. Certainly that's what we wrote up in the bedding guide, but everybody's been all over him. Now bad Bryce Underwood looked and he did look bad, but I just think this is a little bit of an overreaction to an Oklahoma team that's got to prove it a little bit on the road. They've certainly been good down there in Norman, but they've got to prove it on the road. I think that this has just gotten a bridge too far when it reached six at one point earlier this week and then you've seen it come down a little bit. I agree, totally agree. By the way, people can't see you today, but you are rocking some cool Indiana guard. I got to ask you, they're plus nine fifty to repeat on your Kurt Signetti. I think you guys call it chapter three

48:09in Indiana. What do you make after week number one? The Hoosier's big picture. It was fair value. If they looked a little bit sloppy in the opener, maybe didn't run the ball as well, didn't stop the run as well. How do a couple corners go down who should be day today and should be back, maybe this week for Howard, but Josh Hoover was as good as advertised. Josh Hoover, I think, couldn't have had a better debut for Indiana. So I'm not worried about that offense, it's just improving that. That's a little bit on defense and it won't be tested for about another month, but eventually it will be tested. So you got to win these early games and keep getting better. I promise you we're going to talk Presidents Cup at one point here, but football just dominates less great stuff as always. Everybody, we appreciate you watching. We'll breakdown what we see tonight in the NFL tomorrow, but if you want more of these and we know you do, you've been watching on Fando sports never YouTube TV. All you have to do is go to vson.com to vson, watch happen numbers game, Gillal, Alexander Kelly, Benwin, they're up next.

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