WAR ROOM LIVE [3 of 3] Wednesday 9/9/26 • JASON JONES WITH MORE ON ISRAEL'S TERRITORIAL EXPANSION • Alex Jones Network

0:00days weeks and even years ahead of the news cycle Alex Jones live dot com is tomorrow's news today welcome back ladies and gentlemen third hour of the war room is on i'm your host Harrison Smith joined in studio by the one and only Jason Jones how you know today sir here's very good to see you uh... your last appearance here last week made made big waves made big ripples uh... i don't know if i told you but everybody around here was like that guy very inspiring you inspire a lot of people around here but for good reason because what you do i tell people what you're involved with the vulnerable people project what y'all's mission is i just give us a little update and on how people can follow as well i'm inspired here they're inspired because coming here always inspires me and the Alex Jones team has been really with me for the past seven years we started working together when i was the first person the united states arrested leading an anti-covid lockdown event right and then i um... kind of accidentally launched a film your hospital movement and i told

1:02Alex that this is a total sham amid this hospital they had a film crew saying was over well done and my home state of why it was being pulverized by these policies and i was so grateful to come on the show and to talk about our little state so far away how covid policies destroying our economy and destroying our and we had so many arise and suicide was just catastrophic um... but i really did that protest even then against covid policy i'd written article called flat in the hunger curve and the article was published uh... right after italy imposed its lockdowns and i said if the world follows italy's lockdowns the world's going to starve to death at the most vulnerable people in latin america in africa uh... they're gonna starve and and that's in fact what happened so we were complaining about zoom fatigue those that were in hunger were falling they were dying in those that were uh... those were the were hunger for the starvation those that were in starvation level calorie and tick died uh... but i run an organization called the vulnerable people project i

2:02founded it in two thousand and two in the lead-up to the invasion of a rock which i anticipated was going to happen i was trying to hide actually was part of the team that took over the reform party for papi can and okay and i just was like we cannot go to war if we shatter the secular equilibrium in iraq in god forbid syria will see these ancient christian communities wiped from the map and that's when i found the organization and it's been a slow motion horror show since two thousand and three uh... so since two thousand three we've continued to work were christian human rights organization centered on the christian understanding of the human person that we're creating the image of like this of god we have an imbiable dignity and worth but also that is christians we have a special vocation the caring for those who are outside of social concern when i got the idea for vpp i was like most human rights organizations are instruments of power truly vulnerable communities uh... you can't fund raise for them and there's uh... you don't have a base of support in the media and so thank god for the rise and triumph of alternative media where we can

3:05um... we're sure to say i heart type a little christian village that's that's Zionist terrorists are seeking to erase from the planet earth but that's what i found in vpp to do and um... that and that's so we serve i just returned from southern lebanon where we were serving the christian villages that literally bump up across the state of israel so between these christian villages in bay route are shea communities and some of those communities has below operates uh... answer their pinched their being pinched between has blood in the i d f most of those christian villages have been abandoned and since israel has flattened so there are four villages left and they are refusing to leave because they know to leave is to be erased and so i was there we were the first non-residents to spend the night in these villages since the war started march and it was something you know i brought my eighteen year old son of my team and i realized i have like first four levels of my succession plan uh...

4:05and uh... you're being bombed i'd be forty sometimes a night and i thought this might not have been the best group of folks to bring us to the left wall that's back well but no it's incredible that you're going there and i guess on that topic so i'm gonna get into what you guys are doing and and what you're providing for the people of gaza and of the west bank in taba and i'll call this is so important but last week uh... two different people on that out invited on uh... adam king and and jimair both made the claim that israel is the only country in the region that wants lebanon to be christian and that israel was helping to turn lebanon christian i mean to me that on the face of it sounds like an absurd claim is there any validity to claims like that we keep hearing there would there's a bit i mean i would say this lebanon is what i would call what they call a proxy country so the middle east is just a land of proxies that iran doesn't care about the shea in lebanon because they don't care about hasara shea minorities that they abuse in iran but they use those communities as proxies to achieve their interests

5:07everyone in lebanon is trying to use the divisions in lebanon to achieve their own interests it's quite sorrowful because they have such a beautiful country that one time was really united so is it true that israel is seeking to use the division amongst different christian communities claiming to want lebanon to be a christian country well that's true and do some christians in lebanon see israel as an ally i would say they used to i i didn't find that anymore so there are a lot of lebanese in america that have sort of an affection to israel even shea in the south and the far south in the seventies many of those shea that are now associated with hezbollah those families would serve in the idea of which is i think a lot of people don't understand um and and and what we do with the vulnerable people project in fact we're going to be publishing a report in september that looks at all of the christian communities across the middle east ira xiria lebanon jordan egypt and we're going to look at what is their

6:09historical um connections what are their interests where their partners in perceiving those in pursuing those interests maybe that they are marinites and they have a connection to france or their orthodox and they have a connection to russia what are the regional power allies what are their great power allies and how do those powers play these vulnerable christian communities off each other i know it sounds complex but it is complex it is complex yeah and so then what do we do is western christians that have access to wealth and power and i'm on your show how do we advocate for one community will not undermining the interests of another christian community and so i suspect that these guests on alixia show were absolutely very sincere and they would probably see the interests of the lebanese communities that they're associated with would be advanced by israeli power but the reality is israel is flattening christian village after christian village the reality is that the last four villages that are there israel was seeking to destroy until one idea of soldier made a fatal mistake he filmed himself smashing and stabbing and beating crucifix breaking off the arms

7:16and this image when viral and it captured the world's attention and the christian villages that i went to and many of these christians said we used to have a lot of sympathy for the israelis and we also feel very feel very close to our shea neighbors and now we feel alienated from everyone and we're just very scared they don't feel like they have any friends left and they're just very scared but these community said if not for that crucifix being destroyed they would have already been erased i can tell you at vpp it was very frustrating they're destroying churches they're killing christians they'd actually previously killed a priest but priest said you'll have to kill me to leave and he died the next day he was killed the next day in his really strike none of that captured our attention but smashing a plastic cheesis did well thanks be to god that caused israel to kind of pump the brakes a little bit and then vpp came in and i think by god's grace and our friends like you we've been able to make a lot of noise and punch away above our way in the world now knows about remesh unable and dable the world knows i've met with the

8:20state department the state department knows and every republican who wants to run for president most of them a catholic no that if these orthodox and catholic villages are erased from lebanon that this is going to be something an albatross they're going to carry with them and their presidential ambitions and so this is something that this audience this is something we can really do we can save the christian villages of the west bank and we can save the christian villages of lebanon we have to let them know we understand that there are entire christian communities in the holy land they're being deleted we watch them they were erased from iraq now we have al-Qaeda in charge of syria because of our meddling just a few years ago israel and god for bid hungry partnered with isar bijon and islamism regime to erase the Armenians from art sock that had been there from the third century we didn't save art sock we weren't able to save the christians of iraq for the most part the christians in syria are on the abyss and the christians

9:23in the west bank and in lebanon and the south a year from now they may not exist but i'm really hopeful thanks to shows like yours and everyone that's beginning to speak up that maybe this what's called ecclesiastide the racing a racing of a christian community is these ecclesiastides will stop when it seems like the christians have just been caught in between these two forces all you hear about in muslims versus jews but in the middle are these christian communities that nobody seems to be looking out for nobody seems to be prioritizing and wanting to protect you hear occasional statements every once well out of from you know people in the american government oh this is terribly even my kukabean you know called what the settlers are doing terrorism we haven't actually seen any action to back up that rhetoric but clearly the christians are just being forgotten about and being left behind and it is this lack of awareness and it's just it's saddened pathetic that christians around the world still most numerous i think i don't think there's more muslims and there are christians still you know theoretically or or you know technically

10:23america you're up i mean these are christian countries and yet nobody is doing anything to protect the christians except for people like yourself and and volunteers on an individual basis and you have a shirt i posted a picture of it today i was wearing it around just as i heart taba and this is an incredible shirt as i was wearing it around i it struck me what a power thing this was because i had multiple people just come up and say what is taba and as soon as you say that you go well it's a little town of of christians and the west bank and the israelis are trying to destroy it it's like it is the perfect conversation starter and the perfect just to get people aware of what's going on so how can people find this shirt and tell us about taba so if you go to save west bank christians dot com save west bank christians dot com you make a modest donation and you get this shirt and we want the world to know about this beautiful little village i was there twice in the past 12 months i'm going to be there again for this christmas i spent the last two christmas is in the west bank well my team was in taba actually shooting a documentary for kandas Owens which you can see on club kandas we were there to to document settler violence and

11:29tragically what we were there settlers didn't attack us literally the idea of attacked taba and it's really just unimaginable but the world is beginning to know the world knows about taba the christians in the west are beginning to find out in january we had three goals at vpp one was to make taba household name and by god's grace i think this little christian village is by christmas is going to be known by everyone in the united states or most people and you're a big part of that so yeah if you go to save west bank christians dot com you can get that pretty soon we're going to have coffee cups available for everybody and you know we have billboards i don't know if you saw those i did yeah you sent me those i maybe should afford those to the crew here's the very beautiful i heart taba mug so we have billboards in the west bank they've been there for several months they say the world is watching you and they're facing the settlers on their these big electronic billboards awesome and we have a new billboards going up today that say i heart taba and then it

12:31blinks and then it has see something say something report settler violence here and it has a link to our website vulnerable people project dot com because you're not allowed you use the word christians can you believe this in the west bank you can't use the word christians now you know and the only democracy in the middle east you can't put christian on a billboard but we have our website vulnerable people project dot com and at that website people can go and type in report attacks in fact we do have right now across the west bank across southern lebanon in engaza local correspondence they do real-time reporting as attacks are happening this is something we launched about four or five months ago it's been revolutionary in fact about a month ago settlers and the idea for massing out about a hundred yards outside of the village for an attack our team began filming them sent us a report that went live immediately we give them a direct access to our report and then we turn that

13:32into a press release so the press release hit the wire as the settlers hit the village this is amazing literally just information warfare just you're just making people aware of what's going on and that alone is enough to stop some of the act within ten minutes the act they were withdrawn and father bishar from the only catholic church in type others or the Greek church a Latin church and he said that normally when they do these incursions in the day they're probing and then the most brutal attack comes at night but there was no attack that evening and so we are hiring local correspondence now actually across the world in india where there's you know india is is approaching violence the violence level of Nigeria you know you have extreme hinduva hindu nationalist extremists and what the these violent extremists are learning is that western Christians don't care for their co-religionists right and you can flood the right with money so just as we see the Zionists they've been flooding the political right with money we now see that the hinduva

14:34are flooding the political right with money and so you'll see a lot of quote-unquote conservative organizations or religious liberty organizations cease discussing Hindu extremist attacks on Christians in the same way the Vatican has a secret deal and again a club cannis we have a documentary out this month called free pope leo free our bishops and the secret deal brokered by a disgrace pervert cardinal mccaric that effectively silences the catholic church in condemning ccp atrocities which include disappearing catholic bishops imprisoning jimmy lie three million weekers in concentration camps the phoen dafa phoen gong practitioners having their organs harvested after they're murdered how the Vatican could be in a deal with that we're we're imploring pope leo not to renew that deal but you have the state of israel you have state-sponsored extremism in india and you have the ccp the three greatest threats to Christianity in the world are coming from state actors and you find the church

15:38in the west lacks the will to stand up to real power we'll talk about boko haram and i lost an employee last year to boko haram we lost two to the i df and gaza who were killed when they bombed our our baby formula warehouse we have a program we provide security now for 71 churches in one synagogue in ijiria the only synagogue in ijiria we've been providing them security since october 7th we wrapped them up too and so i know that there's real islamist violence in ijiria it's a very serious um but boko haram has no power here they're not funding congressional candidates right there's no boko haram block right i'm the way the china india in israel really influenced the political landscape but we as christians should not be influenced by worldly power in fact where i see the most powerful oppressing the most vulnerable whether it's standing between the hinduva and the old you know the christians in india they've been there since st. tomas i mean that's exactly right the devil is ripping up the oldest churches in the world as is if he's a race and Christianity

16:41from the root right he's ripping it up in india st. tomas actually in iraq i've been to churches in iraq founded by st. tomas into a monastery st. Matthias of al-Qush it's been there since uh 306 a.d. i think and they've had a complete copy of the new testament since i believe 309 which is striking because the council of ron which said hey these are the box books wasn't until three seventy um they're chewing up christians in syria they're chewing them up now in bethlehem and you have someone like my kukka b and don't fall for his gaslighting he is now you know advancing to the rures we used to say in the infantry he is retreating but he's doing all he can to defend israel and he gets he's not naive he is our ambassador he gets intelligence briefings when he says it's just a handful of settlers he knows their real numbers when he says they're not connected to the state he knows the idea of provide security many of the quote unquote settlers are off duty

17:44soldiers that will show up in their uniform with their weapons yeah well and even if they are just random uh hooligans if the people fight back then the idea of does come and they say well we're not you know doing anything offensive but we're going to defend our people so and yeah trust me i'm not taking my kehugga b at his word for a single second but the fact that even he had to come out and say this is terrorists it just shows you the level of violence that's being done to these people and and how they really can't keep a lid on this any longer and now you have the uk leading this this you know group of twelve countries that are now no longer buying things from the west bank which is like a bare minimum sort of action and yet the response to it has been basically to declare war on the uk and you know israel is removed their um uh consulate now and are very mad that we're no longer that the uk is no longer going to be buying olive oil from the settlers uh but man the the reaction to this has been so overwhelming and yet if you listen to the official accounts

18:45the official you know statements from the israeli authorities are well we don't have anything to do with the settlers and you know that's not us and we'll do what we can but clearly the moment you say we're not going to buy things from them anymore the teeth come out the claws come out and they're seeking to punish uk for trying to do this you hit the nail on the head and the former head of the msad who is uh another head of the msad i think from twenty eleven to twenty seventeen prior to that he was special forces soldier he said that the settler behavior makes him a shame to be Jewish i wrote a response saying you shouldn't be ashamed of being Jewish you should be ashamed of being human this is human behavior um but you have uh former prime ministers calling this terrorism and yet when people say we're not going to purchase products from terrorists you said the claws come out and but look a lot of my friends like here you come to the republican convention and news outlet asked if i would cover the convention i'm like why would i cover the convention it's like going to a shopping mall in the dead part of town it's about to close there's like an orange what was an orange Julius and what was a foot locker nothing else it's over the over

19:49window is moved no one's buying these lies it's over and it's just this little boomer class of folks that are just talking to themselves and they have absolutely no clue i just saw that um men under thirty voted plus three democrat um in 2024 which is actually pretty good for the republicans now they're voting plus twenty six democrat right you saw they're caught talking about the red green alliance that the middle easterners and the muslims are uniting with the democrat socialists well actually the same communities voted for trump right people are just looking for someone anyone who's going to be anti corruption anyone someone that's going to there's going to be consequences to obscene his friends anyone that's going to say no more stupid words was it trump they voted for trump imagine being um a muslim and dearborn and they they they were so excited to vote for trump and now you have young kids that identify that young boys that consider themselves alt right or groipers um you know a year and a half ago and now they're cheering on mom

20:54donny well they're just young people are saying hey who's going to stop these worse who's going to stand up to a i that's stealing my hopes and my dreams you know who who's going to when is there going to be consequences for a corruption and so i'm excited about what's going to be on the other side of november we as conservatives we as Christians need to begin offering you know you right before the segment you were looking at the demographic collapse of the west the problem isn't we're being invaded by other cultures the problem is we've lost our faith and are will to live and we need to evangelize i have seven children for grandchildren i want to twelve you know i'm doing my part i did the best i could guys i tried you know i think seven's okay it's me so that's a c minus b plus but begin but we need to have will to live and we need to and why are we living well we exist not to preserve western culture we exist to love god to share the gospel of Jesus christ um that's why i was created and that's why you were created and everyone watching the show is created and um and

21:55i think coming after this next election cycle i think we're in a really good position to not form an prejudice or hatred or bigotry but to look into hey we as americans are all in this together again i talk about Hindu extremism i'm not talking about your Hindu neighbor right i'm talking about islamism i'm not talking about Ahmed who makes you know who's your buddy at work and when i'm talking about christian Zionism um i might be talking about actually your family members like i can talk about some of my family members there's more than uh even otherwise yeah exactly yeah but but there is a way to do this and and just because you know you oppose the terrorist settlers you know attacking people in Bethlehem uh doesn't mean that you're you know uh doing the nazi salute and goose step and down ministry right so there's a way to to defeat the evil without becoming the evil and that's the that's the truth that they want to hide by making this false dichotomy where you're either with the extremist on one side or with the extremist on the other no we're with jesus christ and we're trying desperately to stop the extremist on both sides we're right back

22:58jason jones is my guest fall him on accident jason jones vpp we'll be right back yeah so i'm in studio with jason jones fall him on accident jason jones vpp that stands for vulnerable people project the organization that you help run and does just incredible stuff just tell us about some of the stuff that vvp has done because i think last time you're on my show or or a time previously several months ago you're talking about all these ambitious things and i sort of went you know that sounds great you know good luck brother i hope you succeed and you have you succeeded now you you return to us six months later and it's like the soccer teams are being created tell us about what my wife is done my mother lost told me my mother was like don't tell people what you're going to do because you're never going to achieve your goals and you're going to look stupid i'm like no i tell them what i'm going to do and then you don't do it i look stupid it's like pressuring myself so yeah so whenever you know the the idea of they they have now said it's illegal to fly kites in gaza and any child flying a kite being bang boom they will shoot and kill right and these children want to fly kites because they want to escape the hell

24:00that they're living it you put the kite up and you get to look up at the birds and the skies into imagine that you're flying and you're free they're very smart this is destroy hope destroy joy destroy morale so we're doing the opposite it's always been instinctive for me i founded vpp my own inciting incident was i lost my first child to violence when i was a young soldier away from my family and i was only 18 years old actually i was a 17 year old infantry man at the time i dropped that ice going join the army the day i turned 17 so i always look through the eyes of a father in the work that i do i always say that my job is not to defend and advocate for children and civilians and women it's to stand with men who are in impossible situations to make them possible to care for their families and so no man is in a more vulnerable position than a man who's dead so we really we really prioritize orphans so in gaza you know we were throwing like carnivals throughout the war where we'd bring in clowns and shave ice even pop up swimming pools

25:02and in the west bank we just threw for the christian kids in taiba we threw a vacation bible summer camp for every christian child in the last christian fully christian village in taiba we also have summer literacy programs for girls in afghanistan that we did the summer and for the last jewish community in nigeria we threw them a jewish summer camp um why do we do all of this care for muslim girls teaching them making them literate or you bring enjoy to nigerian jewish kids or christian kids across the world and vulnerable places it's because we want to show who jesus christ is and who we are as followers of jesus christ this is why we do we do but yeah we started a soccer league and i'm really excited our first two teams are spain and irland seem to make sense we want to name teams after all of you guys after you after Alex after miss rachel after chef andress like after giant karyaku like all these people who have used their platforms mother agapia tucker karlson like we want to use everyone he's using and we have all these teams

26:03across gaza we're also going to be opening up a martial arts dojo um for kids that's we were talking that's one of my passions and so we're going to open up a dojo just for free classes for kids and people say how is it a genocide if there's time for soccer i mean come on guys really this this this genocide in gaza has ebbed and flowed i remember they went in there at a time they were letting water in and food in and they're like look at all the food that's here yeah okay but we've been trying to get food in for months and there was no food there was no water um now things are stabilizing and we're able to bring a little bit of joy even in the midst of the war we were bringing joy just in southern lebanon we threw a children's festival and you could the festival was being rocked by bombs like they were in the distance we were safe but you still being shaken you're watching the swings rock back and forth because the bombs are so close on this is our soccer league this is our first soccer game and um look at this it just makes me as a father you know with seven children four grand children to seek kids singing and dancing and laughing and

27:07waving flags and cheering on their friends and um they also wait i don't know if you're going to see it here we brought them ice cream so this is what i do i tell my team crazy things like you know one of my favorite movies is jojo rabbit i don't know if you've ever seen that film and there's this beautiful no i know beautiful scene at the end where they come out of hiding after the Nazis are defeated and they play kind of new wave music which is i love andrew bryper was one of my best friends we'd always talk punk and new wave um and i said we're going to bring ice cream trucks into gaza and we're going to go around giving free ice cream for a year 12 hours a day playing new wave we haven't been able to get the ice cream trucks in yet but we've been able to get an ice cream and we've been able to get in shave ice we've started soccer leagues next time i'm on your show you're going to see our karate dojo and they're going to be judo and judo and jiu jitsu and karate oh here they're swimming look at this i'm your team is amazing i don't know how they found this stuff so when i told my team we're going to bring in swimming pools initially we were going to flood trucks we're going to put in like tarps and flood them and that was too crazy so he just brought those in these are our baby formula took me nine months to get baby formula these are all

28:09orphans by the way and this girls look look at that smile come on come on and our teams to get this stuff here they'd be shot up with quadcopters i'd be a culture just riddled with bullets and but it was just such a privilege to serve children in impossible situations and this is my job this is my mission that when it's impossible i'm going when i was just in southern lebanon my team couldn't sleep through the night because we were just being rocked and my son said dad you never sleep through the night you wake up all night you can't my kids have 14 ages you're not sneaking out his dad is up he's going to be up every two hours so my i slept like nine hours the first night my dad sounds like that how can you slept through the night i'm like all my peace here he's like we were shh i'm like there i guess there were no bombs last night he goes no dad we were all up there were like 40 or 50 bombs i said one at peace because there's nothing more i can be doing we're going to throw a festival tomorrow for 500 kids in the most dangerous place on earth what more could i be doing i can relax

29:17david mammoth the great chicago playwright said that um beaver's writers write and this you're going to identify with this writers write for the same reason beaver's chew on wood to stop their teeth from itching and my teeth itch at the thought of children lonely scared starving wounded bleeding out alone under the stars you know we've all seen the images of the children in gaza there are more childhood children amputees in gaza than the whole world combined there are 18,000 in children to 18,000 children in gaza they're not just orphans the orphans but they don't have one living relative and so if i can if they can kick a soccer ball and have a cool jersey and then have an ice cream cone i'm all in on that if i can have them do judo or karate under the mats and imagine they're a power ranger or whatever's going through their mind then i'm i'm really happy with that's that's what i want to do yeah you're team is too good it's it's instinct you're driven by it's it well

30:21and so many people like we see the horrors and it just the worst part maybe is just knowing or feeling like you can't do anything about it feeling like you're just sitting there watching in you're like this horrible for me i can tell people about it that feels insufficient so to know that you're actually doing something to tangibly affect the lives of these people and going through the bureaucracy and the the complications of being able to do this without getting killed by a i.e. after-own is just incredible so just on that note if people want to support this mission how is the best way yeah we're driven by donors our average donor is a hundred and twenty dollars a year you can go to save west bank christians dot com to support our work in the west bank save west bank christians dot com and you can get your tibia shirt but we work all over the world like if you want to see our work in Sudan and Nigeria and Afghanistan that's vulnerable people project dot com vulnerable people project dot com and you can go and look around and see what we do people find it hard to believe that we do what we do um and it's how we do it as we work through the body of christ there are Christians everywhere oftentimes i will go with my team and then we find locals we

31:25recruit them are our team of of we used to call them confidential informants they would send us daily reports and then this young woman my team lacks she's a genius she's like why are these confidential i'm like i don't know i'm scared for their safety ask them if they want their names out there if they care and then these should be public and so that's now how we have these public reports that are just coming out all day every day from around the world wherever there are vulnerable Christian communities we have recruited and trained brilliant young writers and so wherever where i'm about to go to nicaragua because right now the christians in nicaragua are being brutalized but now in india in syria and lebanon in the west bank in gaza we have reporters scattered across the regions where the violence is taking place and they're filing reports in real time as the violence is happening in these communities are safer when we see them yeah so if you go to save west bank christians dot com vulnerable people project dot com and you just become a five dollar donor whatever you're going to get on our list and you're going to see what we do um and uh it's

32:30just there's no better to me what it is to be a christian it is to stand with the leopard it is to kiss the leopard um but when you do that as you found out when you put your arm around a palestinian christian or just a palestinian um it throw rocks at you it's it's as dangerous as kneeling down next to a woman called the active adultery in the first century you're going to get hit in the head with rocks but that's the christian vocation i always think of john the beloved who was um with jesus as he was crucified so he was crucified with jesus you know john was the only one of the apostles that wasn't brutally murdered he lived a long old life and i think the reason why is the rest fled so jesus was like you're not getting away without being crucified right you're going to be crucified now but john was crucified and i will say there is a crucifixion that goes with serving these vulnerable communities the hardest part my son who's 18 is experiencing this now he's like that i have so much anger and i feel restless since we've gotten back from lebanon i'm like that's

33:33because you've met people you love people and you know that they're there being bombed still every single night and so that is like to me being at the cross with john and you're actually being you're being you're there with the lord and what's interesting is like in Bethlehem and Betzo Hor and Ty bed these are the christian villages that descend from the families that were in the upper room yeah so you were really we are really serving the families of the apostles the families that first shared the gospel with the world and it eventually found our relatives and you know northwestern europe when we were running around worshiping idols clavin people over the head on our boats and sailing away right and but it started there and i always tell them we've come from the ends of the earth you sent the gospel to the ends of the earth we've come back and we're here to work with you and it it always hits me around christian you're what your saying is very powerful and very uplifting but when you read the christmas store and you're reading these towns and

34:34it's like you know what's actually going on in those towns right now it's heartbreaking and until you go there even to me oh that what what is Bethlehem i mean i know what Bethlehem is i saw it on the peanuts christmas special right you know or i saw the black and white movie no but that's not what Bethlehem is Bethlehem are kids riding bikes going to Kentucky fried chicken have basketball league have hopes have dreams have fears but they're living under an apartheid state they're brutalized for me as a conservative to hear that who used the word apartheid used for Palestinians always really offended me it wasn't what is this a part as a you go there it's the most brutal apartheid the world has ever known right entire roads that certain people aren't allowed to use gates they're not allowed to use plays they're not allowed to go it is absolutely I mean do you think probably the biggest thing that's happened in this regard is this protest movement by uk and about 12 other countries clearly the the outrage that this is inspired makes me think this is the right movement

35:37I mean I'm glad to see that the settlers are are being boycotted at the national level what effect you think is that's going to have is that the best way to oppose this on a national level I mean what is he going to take to stop because it it's been crazy and and there's a map actually I don't know if the crew can find it I think the Washington Post put it out but you know it has a slider at the bottom and you can see where the settlements are and you know they've been popping up pretty regularly since like the 60s and they pop up in the 70s and then you get to about 2023 and suddenly it doubles I mean the settlements have ramped up to such a significant degree very very recently what is going to turn that tide what is going to stop that impetus as they just sort of roll over these these towns why I think this boycotts are the way to go and that's why they're passing laws all across the United States even Sarah Hutt Sanders I know her actually personally know her I know her husband I adore her and yet she's running cover for Israel as her fathers climate terrorists like which is it and by the way if you care about Jews in the in the Middle East

36:43and it's a catastrophe like I don't want to get too wonky but I mean we're we're living still to the the the echoes of the trauma of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and and and and and have over half of the Jews in Israel are from across the Middle East and through you know we don't have to get at what dark Zionism is and all of that but and also through bigotry and hatred enthusiasm of violence that's slept through the Muslim communities you saw the Jews from across the Middle East come into is I want everyone in the Middle East to be safe and and have peace so but the best way to make sure they're all safe is to tell the truth and these settlers are violent terrorist menace and they need to be defunded these settlements are illegal president Trump is that at numerous times we supported two-state solution we say we do but we really don't so let's actually support a two-state solution let's remove these illegal settlements let's give Palestinians a right of return now shouldn't Palestinians I also think part of the migrant crisis across Europe

37:46they should have the right of return these Syrians they should be able to return home they may you know they all these Palestinians they should be able to have dual citizenship like Jews and there should be two states like my biggest dream is to land and Ramallah international airport right like this will be a great dream it's possible and the the strength the mindset I think is is the this poisonous mindset that I've heard it so many times it's like they say the only way to deal with these people is through force that any suggestion that you know combat is not the right solution is met with just the scoffing I you don't have any idea the only way to deal with these people is through force and I'm looking at it going well you started this use of force back in the 40s and you're still fighting the same battle so why do they keep saying that with such certainty and such confidence that this is the way you deal well it's never worked before you're still in the 80 year battle you started back then how about you try something else how about you just try looking at what's going on and going maybe this

38:49isn't the best approach maybe because even with the UK the UK says yeah we're not going to buy things from these people anymore and it's like the UK must be destroyed we're going to be destroyed I've got I've got quotes where they're just like they are now an enemy of the Jewish people and it's like why is that always the response and how how is it not what is there to trick right we're seeing Zionist extremists we're not even saying Israelis right and you go from that to you that's anti-Semitic it's crazy you're actually foaming Jew hatred when I say why did Israel just bomb a Christian school and kill a child and you say oh you hate Jews what what are you talking about right if I condemned it the UK for invading the Falcon Islands no one's going to say well you hate the English you wait what that's absurd no it's it's it's really really quite thoughtful can I tell you and again am I confession the first time I went to the West Bank I was scared I was scared you know I'm going there share the Palestinian oh yeah I'm some I was like there they're gonna be I was told by everyone right and every one of my friends that would go on these

39:53government finance tours would come back like with this harrowing you know story about how they braved the bath they got off the bus in Bethlehem and they rushed them into the church and the activity they rushed them out because you know at any moment the Palestinians could have fallen on them and they tell you these stories so I go there by myself with a backpack through cross the Jordanian border go there and I'm scared and I'm like this is not me not the best idea my life then you get there it's like the safest place on earth everyone's like how many hug it and you're like what is going on it's just I've never felt more at home really anywhere on earth than I do like in Bethlehem in Bezahor right I never have now when you're in Taiba it's scary it's really scary because you feel the violent presence of the settlers and you feel that you're surrounded but when you're in Bethlehem Bezahor no I love it in fact this is going to sound crazy and I get mocked online for this all the time they're french fries they're potatoes like the Palestinian

40:56potatoes are so I like I'm a foodie right so everywhere I go I'm like every time I go all you want you know food I went there with Reverend Wunther the very famous kind of hero of the Christians in Palestine Reverend Wunther with this beautiful family after church one day we got hot wings in french fries and it's just the safest place on earth yeah there's no radicals there's no extremism you're what are you talking about even when I evacuated the wounded women and children from Gaza and then we and families and we set up clandestine recording studios and then I wrote an article called help I'm an anti-Palestinian bigot and I began to see that then I'm like okay well the Palestinians in the West Bank are wonderful but I must put the guys there the bad one yeah so every prejudice that every you know that others have I had that's been deliberately planted in you right because because there's there's propaganda to convince you this is true and this is something I do I do a show moon base with my friend John who goes by Lebanon John and he's always telling people nobody believes he's like no the people in the Middle East they want to love America

41:58and they do love America and they love Americans and they're just like why are you doing this to us you know but this idea that oh everyone except I've heard it myself especially at the beginning of the conflict you know after October 7th and I would I would just say I'd support the Palestinians whatever and I would get the comment like they would kill you the minute they saw you sort of thing so that's what's that is the propaganda they're telling you over and over that these people are dangerous and evil and bad and irredeemable so that you're okay with their relationship. I believe it so I have a friend whose famous guy in Hollywood who's actually a settler and I called him when I was in Bethlehem I said hey come meet me for coffee. Oh you like I can't he's like are you crazy they're gonna kill you get out of there they're gonna kill me I'm like no one's got what and so you have this weird and the Palestinians really almost too much want to be loved like hey look no we like you right you will never I've never heard of Palestinian you know spew anything anti-Semitic and I have to be honest and a lot of my Palestinian friends like yeah we always I kind of was when

42:58I first started working there kind of prodding and probing and giving people an opportunity to espouse some kind of hatred and I would never see it and I would be chastised and I would ask them you know where does this come from why are I'm and and for people who are you some of your audience is thinking I'm crazy but for those of us who who hold to a profound prejudice that Palestinians are all violent extremists and bigots we're actually the bigots and when you go there you don't find that they say we've suffered immensely because of racial bigotry how could we hold to that right and they just don't not that there aren't extremists and not that what we've I say we because we funded it what's been happening the tragedy in Gaza is infomenting hatred and maybe paving the way for radicalism I can't imagine that it's not and that's one of our goals at VPP too it's why we go in there an American organization and work really hard to show love because we want to undermine

44:01hate and we want to undermine because that's what Satan wants to do he wants us to fear each other so we hate each other so we sin against each other and so one of my main goals to the work of VPP is really it is an act of public diplomacy you know that we they know we're an American organization they know we're a Christian organization and we work with fortitude and I believe courage to work and serve them under the most tremendous you know very difficult circumstances and we hope that they understand that I was just interviewed by Al Jazeera and they said what would you want the audience to know about Americans I would say that don't hold a cartoonish view of Americans the way I held of you you know that we're a very diverse people with lots of political royalties and sympathies and ideologies and religious commitments and where is diverse is you I discovered you're as diverse as us and your opinions and you're you know and don't hold

45:02that those same cartoonish views of us that's what I would hate but you're right like your Lebanese friends says but they don't yeah you know you fear that and then you know don't think I'm Lindsey Graham and they're like no we don't think you're Lindsey Graham you know all that yeah and that's that's great to hear because you know it is our fault it is at the end of the day I mean it's you know the American as much as our system is corrupted we still cast the votes at the end of the day so you know if Americans are going along with this as so many are you know it's up to us to offset that to some degree so I mean just what you do is incredible again I just want people to follow you and support the vulnerable people project Jason Jones is my guest you can follow him on accent Jason Jones VPP and what's the vulnerable people project they have an account as well yeah it's at vulnerable people project I'm the worst at this I believe but if you go to our website vulnerable people project calm it'll connect to all of our social media accounts and you'll see all of our work there also on Instagram vulnerable people project on Instagram what I love about our Instagram is they want you to show Palestinians is either terrorists islamists are pathetic yeah

46:08and what we seek to do is just show them is beautiful joyful people smiling and laughing not to undermine their dignity you know that commercial for the dog pound or whatever you see the sod sad pets to the Sierra McLaughlin yeah of course yeah we're allowed to do those videos they want you to do those or they show them as extremists but God forbid you show them as triumphant and joyful and humane no you can't do that so when you follow us on Instagram you get to see the moments and flashes of beauty and joy in the midst of these tragedies these communities and I know people are looking for organizations like that's even you look at something like the red cross and they're delivering food to the people invading suit to Spain it's like as you pointed out most NGOs are really sort of undercover government operations their state actors they're there for a purpose other than what is advertised whereas VPP and the vulnerable people project it's like as peers you can possibly get no ulterior motives necessary you're actually delivering on the promises absolutely incredible stuff vulnerable vulnerable people project is named the organization Jason

47:10Jones has been my guest follow him on x at Jason Jones VPP thank you so much for being here with us thank you brother thank you for everything you do thanks edible inspiring stuff folks we'll see you tomorrow