What If Courageous Faith Is Contagious Again

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There's a lot of hot topics to cover today and we'll try to hit all three of those perspectives

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Guys, we got a lot to cover.

So let's jump right in.

Obviously, we got the Iran situation.

We had going back to the moon this weekend.

It was Easter.

That's a lot of great stuff and a lot of challenging stuff.

Let's cover as much as we can.

What do you guys want to hit first?

Well, let's go back to Easter.

Obviously, we had the kind of Monday after Easter, yesterday and so now looking back at

Easter, actually, over the weekend, some really good stuff came out that's worth commenting

about and it doesn't hurt at all to look back and remember Easter again.

It's something you want to remember all year long, not just celebrate once a year, just

remember the life and resurrection and Jesus and all it means.

So actually, Trump came out with really good Easter and a Passover message and then there

was an amazing Easter message from the crew on the Artemis.

So for people who may not have heard that, it's worth hearing.

If you have heard it, it's worth hearing it again because the content is so good.

Let's start with Trump's Easter message.

This holy week I'm proud to join with Christians across the country and around the world to celebrate

the most glorious miracle in all of time, the resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ

in his life, Christ displayed true humility in his death.

He modeled true love and in his resurrection from the tomb, he proved that even death itself

will not silence those who placed their trust in Almighty God.

As it says in gospel of John, for God so loved the world that he gave his only son,

for whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life, eternal life such

beautiful words.

This Easter millions of Christians all over the globe will be reminded that because of

what Jesus did on the cross, all of us can live every day with hope in God's promise,

knowing that in the end, evil and wickedness will not prevail.

In the spirit of joy and renewal this Easter, we also celebrate the extraordinary resurrection

of faith and religion in America, because I have often said to be a great nation you must

have religion and you must have God in churches across the nation on Sunday, the pews will

be fuller younger and more faithful than they have at any time in many, many years,

religion is growing again in our country for the first time in decades.

Happy Easter to all, may God bless you, may God bless the United States of America.

Our country is doing so well like never before.

Thank you.

So guys, I'll tell you, I have not heard a Easter message that's strong from a president

in a really, really, really, really long time.

I think maybe that I recall that maybe George Bush had one in his presidency, but we're

still talking decades and that's a phenomenal message from Trump.

I think David, what you meant to say is there was a message stronger than people have

ever heard before.

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant to say.

What did you go to Rick?

I thought so.

Yeah.

I'm just curious, so why the Godfather was saying that?

I don't...

Oh, yeah.

That's the best I can do, man.

I'm terrible at impersonations.

But Godfather just comes out naturally.

I'm going to make you know for your kid refuse.

Any other one's not, I'm not very good at it.

All right.

Sorry.

Go ahead, Dave.

Well, there was also a message he did that because this is also a Jewish high holiday

for Passover.

And I also did a really great Passover message as well, which you really be worth hearing.

So let's listen to that Passover message from the president now.

To our wonderful Jewish American community and to Jews celebrating in Israel and around

the world this week.

I want to wish you a very happy Passover.

Over 3,000 years ago, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob delivered the ancient Israelites

out of slavery and brought them into the promised land.

It was an amazing period of time, just like today we have an amazing period of time.

The journey started with faith in God's Word and it ended with a miraculous march through

the Red Sea and an astounding Exodus out of Egypt.

The world has never been the same.

This week we recall this ancient proof of God's faithfulness and are reminded that with

true faith, eternal hope and the power of prayer, nothing can stop the people of God.

As Jewish families and loved ones gather together for a satir dinner, we ask that God will

continue to watch over the Jewish people and that He may continue to preserve and protect

the United States of America for generations to come.

Our country is doing better than it has ever done.

I am very happy to report.

Happy Passover.

So, that's Passover and then we mentioned there was one other clip that was really worth

hearing and that's the Artemis crew on the way to the moon, over east or course now.

They're there in Circlan soon be headed back but here was a message that came.

It may have been the pilot I think that gave the message.

They all had something to say but it was a really awesome message.

I think it was from the pilot of the crew but here's that message.

I think these observances are important and as we are so far from earth and looking to

get the beauty of creation, I think for me one of the really important personal perspectives

that I have up here is I can really see earth as one thing and when I read the Bible and

I look at all of the amazing things that were done for us who were created.

You have this amazing place, this spaceship.

You guys are talking to us because we're in a spaceship really far from earth but you're

on a spaceship called earth that was created to give us a place to live in the universe

and the cosmos.

Maybe the distance we are from you makes you think what we're doing is special but we're

the same distance from you and I'm trying to tell you just trust me you are special.

And all of this emptiness, this is a whole bunch of nothing, this thing we call the universe.

You have this oasis, this beautiful place that we get to exist together by think as we

go into Easter Sunday thinking about all the cultures all around the world whether you

celebrate it or not, whether you believe in God or not.

This is an opportunity for us to remember where we are, who we are and that we are the

same thing and that we got to get through this together.

Oh wow, David and that guy, I mean, he also before they even took off they were trying

to bait him into you're the first black this or black that and he was like no, no, no,

we're human beings.

We're not going to be separated into these colors and Skinka.

It was great, man.

I mean, he was, he's something else.

I'd never heard of him until this, until this launch.

Yeah, it was, it was really a strong weekend for people having a lot of boldness and a lot

of faith and you know, we've been seeing this in athletics too.

A lot more people are outspoken about their faith and politics are outspoken.

There's something really good, really healthy going on right now in America and we sure

saw this weekend.

Well, guys, similarly to note of great significance as we're talking about some of this Christian

message coming out, President Trump also highlighting that we were able to rescue that

second American who had been shot down in Iran, the colonel who, what was his role?

He wasn't an navigator.

He was some kind of, he's a weapons system analyst.

He's a backseater in that F-15.

Well, one of the things I saw some conservatives and Christians post about is President

Trump, kind of the last couple of days dealing with the Iran scenario, has not used always

the prettiest, most sanctified language on some of his posts and I've seen some, some

Christians saying, you know, how dare you guys defend that President Trump being a Christian

president, et cetera, et cetera, and I do want to point out, we have talked about this

for a while, President Trump has done more to promote an advanced Christianity, religious

liberty, defending that than any President in our lifetime.

It doesn't mean he is the most godly, sanctified person that we would have as a pastor of

a church and it, again, we've said this many times, I just want to reiterate, when you

look at who God used in the Bible, go to Hebrews chapter 11, the Faith Hall of Fame,

if you look at the people in the Faith Hall of Fame, those are not people that are probably

leading at somebody's church.

They're probably not on staff at somebody's church and yet the people that God so frequently

chose to use, the examples we have in the Bible are of people that are incredibly flawed,

that are not always fully sanctified and yet God uses them in remarkable ways and I'm

saying this because multiple things can be true at once, that I'm not suggesting President

Trump is a pastor, however, dad to your point, when he's delivering an Easter message that

is more pro-Christ and more Bible-centered than any President virtually in our lifetime,

it is worthy of appreciation, it is worthy of acknowledging, but it doesn't mean that

there are not things that he say that we don't disagree with, that there's not times

he posts something where like, oh, those are not the right words I think you should use,

but again, this is where I think in the midst of all of the positive stuff going on, there's

a lot of Christians that are getting sidetracked or confused, going, wait a second, Samson

said something that wasn't nice.

Well God didn't choose Samson because he was the most moral, ethical, nicest guy, God

chose him to crush an enemy that was against God's people and I think Samson, whether that's

maybe totally reflective of President Trump or maybe a J.H.U. is better representative

of Trump, President Trump and this is not to disparage President Trump because God is

using him in significant ways, but it is to remind people that might go, you know what,

I don't like President Trump and I'm not saying that even right now we have to agree with

all of his policies when it comes to people that are frustrated with the Iran scenario

and that maybe there might be boots on the ground, although there was at least a hundred

pairs of boots on the ground, recently rescuing one of the Americans, I understand there

can be frustration, but I think we have to be careful because after Easter, there was

a couple of posts by President Trump that I saw some Christian conservatives is just

going crazy over how dare he use this language, how dare he say those things or how dare you

guys defend him as being a Christian president and again, I think we need to be careful that

we don't confuse God often uses people that are not the most sanctified, but that are

incredibly useful instruments in God's hand for his purposes and for his good.

And I'm going to add some more commentary in there because a lot of that is a distinction

of how you were raised and the era in which you're raised.

I'm going to go back to when I was raised as a kid and our churches, our pastors told

us that if we said things like O rats or O shoot, that that was profanity.

We were not allowed to use words like that because that was considered profanity at the

time.

Now, nobody's going to trip over that today to speak of, they trip over some of the

words Trump uses.

But if you've been raised your whole life not having someone in your ear saying, hey,

that's profanity.

I mean, it's like military guys, when you get around a drill sergeant, they communicate

with only four or five words, but they can say I'm 85 different ways.

And most of those four or five words, we would call profanity, but they communicate and

it's not, I think you have to go to the intent of the heart, not just the words that necessarily

are spoken because they can change over time, but the intent of the heart is what really

matters.

And this is also not to defend and say every intent of his heart has always been good

as well, or that what he's saying isn't profanity, but that I think to your point, that sometimes

we need to look a little bit deeper and recognize that God uses incredibly flawed people, which

by the way, all of us in this program praise God for because if God didn't, none of us

could be used by God.

None of us are perfect.

And that's kind of the whole point of what we remember at Easter is that Jesus bled

for our sins and the reason he came is because God knew we would never be good enough.

And so we shouldn't have faulty expectations.

And this is not to say that we, we shouldn't long for a time that we have a president that

doesn't use profanity.

We, it's not to say we shouldn't long that we have a president that is more sanctified,

but with that being said, again, we have a president right now that is being a better

defender and promoter of Christianity than what we've had in arguably again, any of our

lifetimes.

And so I do think we need to be careful that we don't get tripped up on things that we

go, you know what, that's not quite right.

We can acknowledge that's not quite right and still appreciate that on Easter, he was

acknowledging what truly mattered and who truly mattered.

Jesus, his life, death, burial and resurrection.

And that's really impressive for a president or even an astronaut to do, focusing on the

really important part and not to get sidetracked on things that although might be true,

don't negate the good things that president Trump has been saying in doing.

Yeah.

And you know Tim, I was thinking about even from a, I mean, you could say from a secular

perspective, it wouldn't matter.

If you were, if your family had been captured by a bunch of terrorists and all of a sudden

the spec op guys come in to save you and they're cussing up a, up a stream.

Are you going to say, oh, sorry guys, we only want people to come in to rescue us that,

you know, can speak nicely.

No, you're going to be like praise the Lord, somebody's God sent somebody.

My guess is artisercies probably said some things that weren't very acceptable to other

people.

But yet, you know, we're glad that he funded Nehemiah and sent him to rebuild the walls.

I mean, your point is so well taken and we do get so caught up in, you know, not that

they don't matter at all, but they're just so small compared to the big issues that

we have.

And the nation, frankly, has been kidnapped and been, you know, under a spell of liberalism

and Marxism for a long time.

And this guy has come in and broken the spell and, and God has used him as the instrument

of, of very positive change.

I bet Churchill probably had a few choice words to say as well back in the day.

Not only Churchill, but also Eisenhower, also Patton, also a whole lot of other people

who got some good stuff done.

And, and quite frankly, this, this reminds me literally of a, of a story I remember growing

up where the guy took a preacher with them to a guy on death row.

And this, this guy had been ministering on death row for years and he finally got a guy

that got saved on death row.

And he said, the preacher there, he was so excited, he said, come meet this guy.

He got saved death row.

And so preacher went there and met with the guy and they talked and driving back on

the preacher was completely quiet.

And the, the guy who led the, the guy on death row to the Lord was excited to say, well,

what'd you think?

He said, man, he said, he sure cussed a lot.

He said, hey, look, you're concerned about his cussing.

I'm concerned about him not killing people.

Well, when you look, the guy's making progress, he's on death row, you know, he, he's

not used to this.

He didn't grow up in this.

And so try and teach him a little lifestyle.

And that's kind of like where Trump is.

Trump didn't grow up in church.

He didn't grow up with the stuff that we're used to.

He didn't have the people around him that we're just having around.

But he's making progress.

And so given that, I mean, he has made so much more progress.

There may not be a better friend in America who will into fight for Christianity than

Trump.

Even though he's got rough edges, let him keep growing.

None of us got there in one day and we see so much good that it's being done.

So I hope people just keep the bigger picture in mind, not that you give him a complete

pass, but you don't beat his brains out when he's doing good stuff.

You just encourage him as we saw with even Franklin Graham this week and Trump posted

it.

Franklin said, hey, you're doing all this good stuff for Christians, but you really need

to personally know Jesus.

I mean, that's a bold step for Franklin and for Trump to even post that letter, challenging

him to come to a personal relationship with Christ.

I think he has said the center's prayer and I think he's made that decision from what

I'm told with people around him, but it just takes discipleship to get there.

And it takes a little while for people to get there and everybody needs to realize and

recognize that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Amen.

And I'm just so thankful to have the gospel message being spoken from the highest office

in the land.

And like Tim said, we're all flawed jars of clay, right?

We're all vessels that are imperfect and we could, you know, zero in on the spec and

everybody's eyes.

So anyway, good stuff, guys.

All right.

Let's take a quick break.

We'll come back.

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Welcome back to The Wobbler Show.

Thanks for staying with us, catching up on some of the news from over the weekend, incredible

Easter weekend.

And of course, we talked about the Artemis takeoff and the Easter message that came.

What about just a ran in general, guys, you alluded to this earlier, David, but the president

of course had his Easter messages, but he also had some messages to a ran and apparently

some deadlines.

In fact, by the time our program airs, some of those things will have potentially passed.

What is it exactly that the president is, what is the gauntlet that he's thrown down

in terms of this deadline?

So the deadline Trump gave was today at six.

So that's, and if they haven't met that, he's going to open up on bridges, on infrastructure,

on taking out all the stuff that they've got that helps them preserve what they have.

He will bomb them back into the dark ages.

He's already taken out one major bridge because they're moving missiles across that bridge.

And just on yesterday's response, they came back with their own counter offer of 10 points

that Iran wanted.

Trump did not accept them.

He said that's progress, but they do not want to agree to a ceasefire in Iran, then

with the war over.

And Trump's not willing to do that.

He wants to make sure that he has the capacity to follow through and make sure that they're

doing all they promise to do.

So he's talking a ceasefire is a starting place.

And as of yesterday, it's interesting that with the initial response that Iran gave back

to the president, Israel started ramping up more military operations because they don't

think the president is going to accept the deal.

Trump on his face said yesterday he's not agreeing to, but it's progress.

They're moving the right direction.

So there may be some more counter proposals, but as of today at six o'clock is the deadline

on that.

So both Israel and by the way, America started moving more troops in yesterday as well,

including some ground troops.

And people are speculating, are we going under the ground?

Well, not necessarily.

He just wants all the options there.

So as of yesterday, the response of Iran was not adequate, although it is a step in the

right direction.

So negotiators, the Pakistanis particular will carry that message back and we'll see what

happens.

But if this thing goes to where that he takes out all that infrastructure and part of it,

by the way, is not only that they don't want to cease fire, they won't complete sovereign

control over the streets of our moves.

And he's not necessarily willing to let them have that and decide who and what doesn't

go through the streets.

So those are two big key points now that are not agreed to between the two sides that

are really big for Trump.

But again, whether that means anything, we'll see.

But if it does, if he starts going after and there's been what 17,000 sorties now and

bombings of Iran, and that has not been their infrastructure, that's been their military

structure.

And so their military structure is now severely incapacitated, but he did take out that

big bridge on which they're moving missiles.

And so now if he starts taking out all the other bridges, they've got no way of moving

within the country themselves even domestically.

I mean, they are getting bombed back into the dark ages when there weren't the roads

that you have.

And you had to ride a donkey across the ravine and down into the ravine and across the

ravine and up the other side.

I mean, it is a, if he takes out their communication lines and their transportation lines, it will

sit them back.

They probably will not be a world power again in the next 50 to 80 years.

Well, speaking of all of those sorties and how many planes have flown over Tim, you got

to tell the story of the rescue because, I mean, they made a big deal out of this and

I think in a good way, right, how much we risk to rescue this guy, the story of him evading

for 48.

I mean, this is a pretty cool story.

This is going to be a movie someday.

No doubt.

It's unquestionably going to be a movie.

It's also cool that part of how this, and again, we don't know all the details.

We're going to find out more probably in the coming days, but one of the things that

it does appear is that some Iranian civilians actually helped the down US Airmen to be able

to survive and evade and to navigate.

And so the fact that even Iranian civilians were helping in this and maybe it does indicate

that they're kind of supportive of the Americans.

Maybe America isn't as bad as what the current media or even some of the anti-Trump conservatives

are arguing.

That being said, yeah, when you have what we are hearing right now is at least 100 individuals

of some kind of special force operation that go in.

When they touch down, their planes are somehow disabled and so they have to destroy the planes.

They have to, they make the rescue, but they come back.

They got to have this different LZ now because they have to destroy the planes that are

there.

They're not working.

And so now they have new birds coming to get them.

There are so many details to this.

And again, we're finding out more today than we did yesterday.

We will know more later this week than what is known now, certainly.

This is something that is is praiseworthy.

And it's also a little funny that there have been some viral posts from Europeans as

an example, questioning why in the world would America spend millions of dollars and put

all these other servicemen in harm's way for what's going on to rescue one person.

And that's when it was great.

The comment section just was lighting these people up going, man, you don't understand

at all what the American spirit is and how these people think and how they operate.

The fact that they're not going to leave a man behind.

This is a defining moment showing how Trump's administration is different than the prior

Democrats that were there because it's not that long ago under Secretary of State Hillary

Clinton, when the Benghazi stuff went down under President Obama and they did not send in

extra troops, they allowed Americans to stay there and ultimately to lose their lives

when they could have been rescued.

President Trump has shown going the exact opposite direction as part of the core of who

he is that he is going to make sure Americans get rescued that they are taken care of.

And he's going to spend money and again, like even these servicemen to say that he's

willing to send these servicemen in, you got to know.

And we all do because we have a lot of friends in the military.

We have a lot of friends that have been special forces.

Every one of those special forces guys been training their entire life for this very

moment.

Go on, please let us go.

Let us go get this guy.

We will take out the bad guys.

We will rescue this guy.

We will bring him back.

This is why God made us, right?

This is why we were created.

Let us be the warriors we want to be.

And that's part of how that story unfolded again.

We will know more details later this week than we know right now.

We know more today than we did yesterday.

Certainly this is an incredible and impressive rescue operation.

You know, the other things really interesting is the guys that have been through the military

including our two sons talk about how the most valuable part of the training is the

seer training, the search, evasion, and rescue.

And several of the guys they interviewed after this guy had disappeared.

They rescued the pilot.

They didn't get the weapons system analyst said, look, he's going for the roughest ground.

He can find.

He's going for a highest ground.

And the fact that he climbed 7,000 feet up in the mountains and was hiding in the ledges

and finding little caves and animal burrows and things to get into, that's exactly what

they predicted.

So they were really confident that God was going to be okay.

And then when you send in the force, the size that we sent in, and they were undetected,

just got in the way that they got in and got him out.

I think it speaks a whole lot to how well the military is trained that those guys who had

been through seer training knew what it was going to do for this guy and that would save

his life.

Remarkable story, in fact, the president took what an hour yesterday in terms of press

conference and Pete Hegseth and it was really, really amazing to see and certainly can't

wait for that story to be told and repeat it.

People need to know that America values life, that we value our servicemen and women that

we're going to do whatever it takes to protect them and rescue them.

Really, really cool story.

So a great weekend and just catching up on it on Tuesday, but tomorrow we've got another

great interview for you.

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