What if everything we’ve been taught about success… is incomplete?

What if the live we've been chasing isn't the live we're meant to live?

Welcome back to the Hurricane H show where bold ideas and real traffic transformation take

center stage.

Today's guest is Marat Omarov, founder of DRC, a regenerative village in Costa Rica

that's imagining how we live, connect and build community.

From leading major international projects like Expo 2017 Kazakhstan to walking away from

conventional success in search of a deeper meaning, Marat's journey is one of reinvention

purpose and vision.

Today, he's building more than homes, he's building a living system designed around

connection, sustainability, shared prosperity and human potential.

Marat, welcome to the show, man.

Thank you so much, Hurricane, excited to be here, excited for this conversation.

Likewise, listen, I just briefly discussed this with you before we officially launched

this show, but the idea, the stuff that you've done, your life, it's something that we

need to really comprehend because you had what most people would call success, I mean,

certainly, you know, from the at least the readers that I've done, but yet you kind of

chose a whole different world.

Yeah.

What didn't feel right about that original life of yours?

Because that's what everybody is dreaming today, I mean, we just had the show about dreaming

of success, you know, so you had the success yet you chose a different path.

Now, doesn't mean that this is what you're doing is not success.

Not effect, I think what you're doing is just another form of success is not the success

in life.

A lot of people may may not agree or disagree, whatever the case would be, but that's what

we hear, right?

So we're here to enlighten them about your journey from what the dream of life that we've

been told to the dream of life that you're creating today.

So let's go from there.

Yeah, I think exactly this, this is like the question of what is success, right?

And don't get me wrong, I was also believing that everything that I had was success.

In my definition of success as later I realized, one vital part was missing, and this is

the internal alignment and the feeling that I'm in my place and that my integrity is,

my integrity is there, it's present, you know, and it wasn't.

And I thought that money or power or being in the power games can substitute that or that

I can bring it there.

And that wasn't a mistake.

And I realized that later on after trying that, I realized that no, like I cannot leave

like that.

And honestly, I was not thinking that like, oh, no, now I want to do something else.

I was like, just like the idea was like, I cannot do that.

I'm going on a quest of, so what else is that missing?

What is this missing part?

It was, it was a long journey of six, seven years of not knowing.

Well, Samarit, you know, let's just break it down.

I mean, for audiences, you know, we all kind of grew up in our space, whatever that is,

you know, I mean, US, Kazakhstan, I mean, I'm from Russia, from Morocco.

I mean, everybody's got their own, you know, background and where they are born.

I mean, obviously we don't choose where we're born, that's one, two, we might choose where

we live.

That's a good part of our life, right?

But we do have environments and social, I guess, conditioning, right?

Actually, almost guides how we do things and where we need to be.

And even when I was a kid, you know, you want to be successful, you need to go to school,

you need to get a job, you need to build a career path, you know, you want to be somebody

that is important, doctor, lawyer, you know, some, some, like an executive, whatever.

That's kind of like everybody else, you know, in this world that, that we are almost,

I think it's any culture has that.

But we do pursue that.

I think everybody out there is, there's a lot of talk about success and business and

this and, you know, making a lot of super money and all the stuff.

By the way, I, again, success is a very deep word and it is a very large and we can spend

days and months and we probably still will not define it as one thing because everybody

has their own way of defining that.

But the idea is that that's how we are brought up to be.

Now, you had all those things.

So, so, so I know you, you've kind of translated to a whole new journey that you wanted to,

to go through to discover where you are today.

But like, did it, was there a moment where you really like, no, this is not for me?

I have, I don't want to subscribe to this formula.

I want to go.

By the way, I can agree with you because I've moved a couple of times in my life and, you

know, towards, you know, what I would call my dreams, right?

And, and they may be different in a way.

Everybody has a different, I guess, aspiration or vision of how they want to live.

But I think the core of it is all the same.

We all want the fulfillment.

We want to have some sort of a legacy, whatever it is, whatever that might be for someone

that's watching and listening right now.

But you had that moment where like, aha, Eureka, this is not for me.

This live is probably cool, but I'd like a cooler place and a better place and a better

path.

And you took that now a question that comes to mind.

Was there a spiritual aspect of things to drove you?

Was there just a curiosity thing that got you?

Was there an interest in just shifting to a different, you know, more subtropical

outside environment?

Well, what were some of the reasons that got you like, I got to walk away from all this

and start me and finding my whole new purpose in life?

Which by the way, we're going to deep dive into that and there's a lot of stuff that

you do.

So let's go.

I mean, that's a deep question.

Let's just dissect that as much as we can.

I believe there was like an internal voice that was always present and that was not allowing

me to stay.

And there was not like a single moment that was like, you know, walking one day in the

morning.

It was just like, that's not for me.

No, it was just like an internal voice that like, you know, hey, something is missing.

There can be something which is going to be fulfilling.

And you know, there is a funny thing in the definition of success and I 100% agree that

we can be full, full of something about it for as long as possible.

But I believe many people now would success in the same category is like, is the financial

wealth.

People think that if money are there, that this is it, right?

This is like what capitalism is like this American dream, right?

Like, and there are so many things that were kind of brainwashed us.

And I was there and that was also the idea.

And I still believe that money is the big part of success.

If you're not financially successful and then everything else is great, you're still

going to be feeling that you're missing something.

And it's fairly so.

But at the same time, when money are the only thing that are there, or maybe sometimes

people like money and then like another thing after money comes the power, right?

This is like when people start, and this is the traditional eager journey, right?

Like when people would money go to politics because they're like, that's and that's the

very, very traditional man masculine game when you're like, okay, that's, and that's

where people feel that like, I have now I have money and power and that's when the success.

And for many people, honestly speaking, it is and it's, and then I believe this is again,

this is like just that bringing and the system how it raised us, it's just like everything

is very wrong with that.

And I believe some people, and I want to put myself into category of those people, they

just have this internal voice that something is missing and the money and power cannot substitute

the thing that is missing.

And that's where I was.

And there was no eureka moment, there was no aha moment, there was a moment just or

not a moment, there was just like subtle understanding growing that I have to go on a certain

quest and to find something that is missing and I want to do something that's really going

to be to nourish my soul and the rest is going to come.

So there was this kind of thrust.

So yeah, in the end of 2017, I made this decision and I was just like, I'm just going to go

and just going to look for what is that missing part.

And so, you know, you said there's no aha no eureka, but there was a trigger, you know,

you obviously was, maybe you were dissatisfied, right, you know, with that lifestyle.

As you said, you know, yeah, I mean, everybody wants to have money and possessions and power

is definitely a cool thing to have because you can do things and people respect you, maybe

being a celebrity can be another piece of that.

And all that stuff is cool and people actually are almost designed these days to seek, right?

But you had something that, you know, was not fulfilling you in that whole world, that

space.

By the way, a lot of people have, you know, self discovery, right, they just feel that,

you know, and by the way, that is a fact.

I don't, I think everybody has watching, listening, no matter what you have in life, and

this is my personal experience, I've been around a little, you know, around the block

a few decades and been up and down and all the stuff.

And at your peak time, even when you have everything that you think that you want, it doesn't

really fulfill.

I mean, it's, yes, it's cool, you can make things happen, you can do things, maybe you

can travel more, you can have more positions, but is it really making you happy?

See, it doesn't bring you happiness.

There are things that, that no matter what you have in this world, as a matter of fact,

no matter what you have in positions, once you have them, they're just positions, they're

just like accessories.

And by the way, someone can say, well, I think you're nuts because, you know, I would love

to have, you know, my yacht and this and that, by the way, I don't have a yacht, but just

to clarify that.

But the idea is like, well, I want one, maybe, but I know for a fact, if I did have one,

it will just become a boring thing and you just kind of like, you know, what's the next

toy I'm going to have.

And I think that's, we see that, you know, people have multiple collections of things and

they don't even spend time on it.

I mean, here's something I've always used as a funny analogy, but, you know, how much

space do we take in a bed or in a room?

Yeah.

You know, anyway, you can be living in a palace, in a castle.

I don't care what kind of, you know, room you have, you know, with gold trimmings and,

you know, whatever take you have, but you're only going to take one little, I don't know,

a foot and a half, maybe two feet wide and, you know, whatever your height is.

And that's the space.

Even if you're rolled down, you might have rolled, you know, left or right once.

So it's not a lot of space we, even like, this is something true.

You, you have a big house, right?

How much space do you re-occupy it all times in that space, right?

This is just a simple thing, but sometimes when you start thinking at this level, you're

like, whoa, you know, true.

No, this, by the way, I'm not against capitalism or making money, whatever, to each

is only if that's what, you know, fulfills anyone, go for it, maybe it's success is part

of that.

Great.

I believe in your dream.

I've, I've lived that dream for us.

I had the American dream.

I wanted to success that was taught, you know, which is, you know, get the ladder, you

know, of corporate and, you know, climate and make it happen.

And I did, at least in my scale, I think I did.

And then that wasn't it.

I still, it's never it.

I mean, yes.

Now, I am living a different dream.

It's a different path that I chose, which is building this media company, which brings

its resources and information.

It's more of, you know, intellectual, enlightenment, educational piece of information that we

bring in with experts.

So that's my new dream, if you want to call that way.

But you're right.

Like, everything that we have, sometimes you have to start wondering, I think the question

is, do people sit with themselves and ask the question, all right, well, I'm having

all this.

What does that mean to me?

Is that fulfilling, you know, is you can, you can have all that not have health.

And sometimes you beg for help and you won't have it, even if you had the money in the

world.

So those are things.

So your condition was like, okay, not fulfilled.

I got to do this on my own.

I got to find my way.

And you did.

Now, here's a question.

Why?

Why Costa Rica?

Yeah.

I mean, there's, there were this big.

Yeah.

That was, that was not a, not a sudden job, you know, from Kazakhstan to Costa Rica.

I went from Kazakhstan, actually, to LA, like I was believing that my, I always wanted

to, to act since I was a child, to write and to act.

And I was like, you know what, I'm going to go and try that.

And maybe that's something that is going to be the fulfilling thing.

I still love acting.

I still love writing.

And I came to LA and I almost stayed in LA.

And then we came to Mexico with friends for a weekend.

And I just fell in love with Mexico.

And I, and I just came out in the, in the plane and I was just like, wow, oh, it's such

a weird feeling.

And I spent next between three and four years in Mexico, living there.

And I spent, I'm living between two women, Mexico City, made amazing friends.

And I, and Mexico gave me so much, it really allowed me to become myself.

And I know it made sound weird, but it's a, it's a complete, it's a very different mentality

from Kazakhstan.

It's a completely different, everything for me, like, you know, whichever place I was going

for me was like, wow, it's just like insane.

I mean, Mexico, I would be like in the, in the middle of some state in Mexico that

I would never think that I would ever be.

And for me, living that life was just, just beautiful and amazing.

And I, without understanding that I was slowly or rapidly, I don't know, time is so, you

know, such, such a weird concept.

But I was just becoming myself, working like on spiritually and personally.

And I was just shedding the layers of what I was thinking I was through different practices.

And was just, for the first time in my life, I was just accepted for who I was or for how

I was becoming rather than what I could do for people, you know, and it's, it's, it's

a weird concept to bring in, especially when you're in the middle of your thirties and

you're kind of reinventing yourself.

And I was in the middle of that.

And I was living in Tulum when COVID happened.

And honestly, I found my home in Tulum, I love that place so much.

But unfortunately during Tulum, a lot of the conventional developments flooded Tulum and

started kind of over building it and the Mexican government decided to make an international

airport there.

So I realized that, you know, all my life, I wanted to live in a small town with a small

community.

And that was, Tulum was for me.

And then out of nowhere, Tulum became the fastest growing city in Mexico with an international

airport happening with my entrain, out of nowhere, like big resorts coming.

And I was like, oh, wait a second, that's not what I wanted.

Although I loved the place for me, it was really, it was painful to see what was happening

to the place.

And I'm no, I'm no one to judge.

And I'm no one to decide how Tulum or whatever Mexican tourist destination has to be developing.

I'm, I'm a foreigner in the country that I just fell in love with.

But at the same time, it was not something for me anymore.

And seeing how COVID was emerging and how everything was developing in the world, I just realized

that the world is not going to be, to ever be the same again.

And the world actually is never, same again.

But there is no, never going to be, let's get back to normal.

And that was the trigger.

That realization brought me to Costa Rica because I realized that they're going to be more

geopolitical, whatever disturbances, whatever we want to call them.

And I realized that the moment that whenever I want, I will want to have kids, I, I thought

that there is no place where I want to raise them.

I don't want to raise them as mogulists.

I don't want to raise them in, in the States, I definitely, I don't want to raise them

in a random place.

I want to create an environment which will allow them to grow, not to go through like all

the layers of like the path that I went to finally become me in my almost 40s.

I want them to grow in a safe environment where they would realize themselves as part

of this universe as part of this world as this, the physical representation of this universe.

And to absorb the food that they're, that is going to be grown on that land, where they're

going to grow on, to have an environment in France and people who are going to carry

the same or similar worldview where no conditioning is going to be transferred to them or programming.

And they will be able to grow in their unique essence and get this lens through which

they're going to look at the world, understanding themselves as part of the whole rather than

owners of the whole and where they will absorb the idea of the success that we are coming

back to the same success that they will understand that success is something complete rather than

power or money or fame, where they would understand that success is just being a responsible

adult that is bringing a better and more beautiful world that's possible through their actions

and that they're contributing to this larger, more beautiful world rather than just making

themselves more rich. And I realized that this place was not existing and understanding a

little bit about geopolitics because of my upbringing and university and the story of me growing

up, I realized that the country without natural resources, which is Costa Rica, the country in the

middle of nowhere, which is Costa Rica, we're in the center between two Americas, as far as possible

from any big geopolitical movements and the country that actually reversed the first station and

it's just everything that they do is the representation of regeneration. I thought that's

going to be the country for a perfect place for me to create this kind. I don't want to say

utopia because immediately people would like to put things into category into boxes the moment

the utopia comes into place, they're like, oh, whatever, like let me turn this off. But

it's going to be a perfect place for a model for the future human settlement for this post-urban

era that is coming. What's the whole of it? I mean, it's a lot of stuff back now. It's a lot,

well, first of all, I'm just admiring the vision that you had then, by the way, what you did is

pretty, I guess, consistent with a lot of folks that have made a difference in the world anytime

in history, which is, I mean, you discovered yourself. You went into a path to discover yourself

after you realized that the life you had originally was not it. You made the transition,

so you came to the States, LA is a hustling place. That was it. You kind of left that. You came

into probably a worse one in terms of activity and lifestyle. Then you said, okay, let me go to this

cute little place, Mexico, and it's a nice little stop. And then progress followed you, I guess.

You just got your break there. But then you were still on the same mission path, which is you want

to, and by the way, I love what you said, that you wanted to have kids in a space where it's not your

typical environment. It's a better environment that is fulfilling, complete, and it's not about

power, money, and stuff. And by the way, that is a beautiful thing. Now, some people said,

I don't want to leave that live. I want to have the luxury. And again, folks, if you're watching

listening, it's okay. You know, this is the cool thing about our world. We can have different

selections and different approaches to how we want to live. And yes, I mean, there's a good

thing in that. I mean, you can have a live of fun. And I can tell you this, that's another thing

just by experience. I don't care how much fun you have. There's only some certain moments in

life that really you feel the happiness and the real fun. And sometimes by giving and doing

something that is of a higher, I guess, purpose makes a big difference, right? And so what you're

doing, and I love that for, I guess, thinking about the next generation, because again, the next

generation is the future. Hopefully, there is a future. This would all that turmoil that we have

in this world and the crazy stuff that goes on. You know, sometimes you wonder, like, you know,

how is it going to be environment, death, wars, all kinds of crazy stuff. But yet, you know,

we cannot just think that Doomsday, you know, day concept, we have to think a positive way and

have an outlaw. Outlook at, you know, there is not Ethiopia. Not, not, not, not, not, not, not,

Ethiopia. Not, not a, a, a, a form of like, I don't know, a futuristic movie style. But yet,

you know, something that is real that can happen today. And so, by the way, Costa Rica is a beautiful

place, you know, and it is a big hub for a lot of expats from over the world that, you know,

and I think there's a whole bunch of community from the US as well. So I think you did that part.

And it is to, to your point, it's a natural place. I mean, my best friend went there and he,

I haven't yet been there yet, but my friend, we almost did that. There was this, there's this

plan that we were going to go there and then something happened. I think it was COVID, actually,

you know, kind of ruined that plan at the time. But, but my friend went and he was like,

mesmerized as the place and just the life and the, the fruits, the vegetables. I mean,

everything was like almost like you live in a natural habitat for humans. Yeah. And where you

can be healthier, less problems, less environmental impact and so on and so forth. And a lot

of you said, that was smart because it's not really, it's one of the countries that's probably

just too far from all the conflicts in this world. And the one wants it because, well, no one wants

it. I mean, somebody can still think about how this is a cool place we're going to take over,

you know, God forbid, but you know how that works, right? But the idea is that it is very unique,

very neutral territory, no headaches, no political, you know, power, you know, struggle there

with all the nations. So it is a great hub. And the idea that you will create an environment

where kids can grow up in a whole different lifestyle than than you or me or a lot of the people

that are out, you know, in the world, because if you're grown in a city, it's a whole different

world than if you're grown into this mode of like, hey, let's do this. Let's do this. This is what

success is. This is what we need to do. And you have this peer pressure and this pressure in general

by the society that pushes you now with social media. Forget about it. We have all these things,

and what you decided to do that for kids and to create like the ultimate

town or village or city that is, you know, my village is a cute name and it actually takes you

more like it shows natural stuff. When you talk city, it creates that crazy vibe like you're

as a city. So it's tense, village, you know, and by the way, it's funny because I was a kid. And

even today when I go back home and we do go to the villages and you do believe that they live

a better life. I do believe that person. They have a simpler life. They have a healthier life.

They're, their weather is better. The environment is better. They can breathe better air.

Foods of, you know, fresh stuff comes in right from the backyard. I mean, it's a different lifestyle.

And so to your point, I love the concept. Now, now what's what's interesting about what you did is

you call it the arc. And now that's biblical. You know, I mean, we do know there was one arc that

is famous in all religion, you know, history and that is Noah's arc. And so, but the concept is,

you build this place where you save humanity in a way. And the environment and everything,

that's what happened with the original arc. Now, was that the driver behind the name? Or,

you know, there was an actual acronym that's built in the arc.

That's a good point. It was actually the idea was, was that

and I'm going to go hurricane as like as a hurricane as crazy as possible because I love to

challenge people's. For a baby. Yeah. This is the place. Do it. This is the place. Yeah.

I believe that we're leaving an inversion point when the civilization, as we know,

as we know, it has collapsed with with COVID. That was the pivot pivoting point. And

and that from there on, nothing is going to be the same. There was this hope, I believe, before

COVID, that kind of everything was steady growing. Yeah, there were conflicts, there were wars,

there were like things going on, but there were there was just like this and understanding that

capitalism has made it. Made it from the perspective that, yeah, there was like mental

mental issues, there were loneliness, there were like whatsoever, health issues, so many different

things. But there was this point that economical progress is compensating all of that. And that was

the only kind of joker that capitalism could cover whichever card you put on the table. You're

like, yeah, ecological collapse. Yeah, but we leave better than ever again, that ever, and the

people are like GDP is growing, whatsoever. And COVID just kind of showed that everything just

collapsed in the moment, right? It's just like it was so unpredictable that everybody started

reacting so differently. And from that moment on, I believe nothing is ever going to be normal

again, although the governments are trying to bring us back to normality. And now actually,

they actually did great job because people kind of forgot that it happened and now they're

like different agendas on the table. But if you look into the world that's what was going on from

2020, nothing is ever normal, right? Like, first of all, and there are good things, I mean,

let's not label it like good or bad things, but there are the things which are allow us to live

differently and the things that force us to live differently now. And things that allow us to

live differently is, for example, remote work, right? Like, what we're doing with you now would be

very like, it would be potentially possible between before 2020, but honestly, right? Like,

making podcasts that was like, you go to the studio, doing an office like everything to remote

work. So for the first time in history, we as humans, we actually can choose where we live,

rather than where we're forced where to live. The last two centuries industrial revolution

pushed us into the cities, right? So we kind of came there, and I love that you're stating this

like whenever you go to the village, you're like, this this folks live a better life, right?

And you, but at the same time, you're like, will I move to the village? You're like, and I don't know,

like, what am I going to do there? Like, you know, and because it's kind of unattractive to a city,

to a city brain, to a city mind, to a city environment, right? Like, you're like, there is nothing

to do. All this is kind of sketchy, like, yeah, they kind of look at a better life, but like,

oh, village people, let me go back to my condo in wherever, and stuck in the traffic jam,

and breathe bad air, and like, eat shitty food, but, you know, but I have culture and whatsoever,

you know? And then you come, you come to the village, you're like, yeah, simple people.

So like, how about if, if we now can choose where we leave, and imagine like, if you maintain

everything that all the positive things that the village has, but you make it modern, so it's

actually becoming cool, and we create this new cool, this new village cool. So like you, you keep

living great, you raising kids great, you have art and culture, you have now, you can actually

work wherever you want to work, because more, because then, oh my god, the world, the world has

a lot for me, the remote word became normal. So you actually can live in the environment that you

like, by having everything that you love from the city, having all the international connections,

because, but, you know, I love these conversations with New Yorkers, they're like, like, why do you

live in New York? And they're like, all the world comes to New York, I'm like, okay,

all world, world comes to, you know, Costa Rica, there you go, you can live in Costa Rica,

we're like whichever beach destination. And actually now, all tech entrepreneurs, you would be

surprised Santa Teresa has, I think, the most amount of tech entrepreneurs, which are moving

to Santa Teresa and making this their home, and they're not tech entrepreneurs that are like

coders that go to live to Bali, they're like founders of big companies, of like whatever,

you name it, or most of them, they have property here now, here now, because then,

they understand this move before, before their mainstream understands it. So they're purchasing

properties and they're moving and they're like eating and they're spending at least, I don't know,

three, four months a year here, because they're like, they want to understand what is this

neural system regulation, what is it, you know, like how it's much better for them, how they can

be more productive, and that they don't have to live in the hustle in order to create whatever

products they want to create or services. So that was them, that was the moment and movement where

like, you know, what the arc represents. And definitely, yes, it has the connection to the

biblical arc. If you think about the arc of during the Bible, Bible times, whatever it was,

was it a real or a fictional thing, maybe it was the same time, you know, like, because like,

if we think about Bible with just like looking at it, very, very literal, might not be the thing,

you know, looking back at the biblical times, maybe like, you know, that's just like, okay, maybe,

yeah, maybe there was a flood, maybe there was a vessel, maybe it's a metaphor for something that

some civilization has collapsed and some has started. And there was an enversion point and some

bridge was necessary, which was the arc that has that helped to bring from all the best from the

past to the new world, because the old world was distracted, it had to be distracted because

humans kind of distracted, destroyed it. So there was somebody who had to bring everything the

best, all the best practices to that vessel and to carry that vessel to the new civilization.

And let's start from scratch, let's start from blank new page and we brought all the seeds,

all the animals and whatsoever. So if we think about that civilization at that time, we kind of

have to like, okay, yeah, like we have to bring nature. But if you think about the modern arc,

the concept of the modern arc, what would you bring, what would you put into this vessel,

and what would you bring to this new civilization that somebody that we all collectively,

what whomever is going to be building, including people who are populating that arc.

And you would definitely of course take the seeds, right? You would do the same, you would bring

animals, you would bring seeds, you would bring nature, let's say so, right? Because that's

what it represents. But the side of that, the humanity has done so many good things now, right?

So you would actually bring different educational model, right? You still want to bring

education, but you want to bring like everything that we actually did well. You would bring

conscious technology, you would bring, would you bring art? You would say like, yeah, of course,

I would bring art, I would bring like, you know, everything that we learned about it, would you bring

the ways to preserve the quality of sound, the analog music recording? You would be like, you know,

yeah, of course, why not, right? And there are so many things like this, like you would be like,

hey, would we bring practices that unite us as humanity and bring joy, and would we bring

music and culture? And you'd be like, yeah, the music that brings beautiful emotions,

and that unite us as a humanity rather than separators, that the music is not that,

not that promotes, you know, like whatsoever. There's a whole different world of that.

We know that music, you're like, let's not mention it, but the music that actually brings us

in togetherness, right? And elevate the spirit. I don't want to use like, I realized that the

moment, like the more esoteric words we use, the more like the people, like, you know, audience

pulls down, but so I want to maintain it as much as possible for understandable for people in this

kind of flat terms. And that's where like, you know, so like, if we think about this esoteric art,

or like, this kind of fictional, like, the art that not that art, not that land, but that vessel

that brings the best practices to the new civilization. That's what we're practically much we're doing.

You know, so I'm listening to you. It's amazing because you're touching a lot of things.

One being creating this new world, right? I mean, in a way, a new new form of life. And it's funny

because talking about art, and you know, I went to the movie 2012. I don't know if you've seen that

movie. Yes. Where they literally did exactly that. They created these arcs and they collected,

you know, all the the arts from the different, you know, museums and all the animals. They almost

did the same thing because it was doomsday. And you know, then was going to be another flood. And

it was almost like, you know, a prediction of this, this, you know, major event that's going to

take place. And the world is never going to be this. And actually it did shift and all that.

But the concept is, even though that's a movie, you see that repeating a lot of movies for space,

the earth is just about to not believable. We got to, you know, shape out. We have this

this massive, I guess, ships to go to space. I mean, I love sci-fi. And sometimes it's a,

it's sci-fi. Yes. But it's really deep dive, you know, mean is within that, you know, when you start

looking and stuff. I also, I'm a big fan of, um, tragedy. We're not like, you know, more disasters

and stuff like movies. And when, when you look at these, I don't look at them just for the fun

part of it on the entertainment. I look at them from like, you know, the human factor. Like,

I've always analyzed them and like, what, what will I be if I was in, you know, if this was me

in that condition? Will I be this one or the other one? Will I be the one that's making trouble?

The one that's going to lead me knowing and make a difference? Will I be the one that's fighting

for food? And really, it keeps me going when I can take it. And by the way, you said something

very powerful and true. One is that after COVID, it's like, I call it the bleep. It's literally

feels like the bleep in the Avengers where, you know, we have a whole new start live. Everything is

like new. And sometimes it does feel like it's not the same life, you know, that we had before.

Whatever that is. Now, I do have a whole philosophy about, like, this is a reality that we live.

And every day you wake up, it's a new reality. And yours and mine kind of converge within

that day. And we all kind of go back to sleep. And next day we, we, we survive again, a new day.

But the reality keeps shifting and the, the momentum is our changing. But, but really what you've

done is the idea is like, and by the way, when I'm in, when I said, you said YouTube,

and that's what I wanted to say earlier, the word, you know, went to Ethiopia. I have no idea why,

but, but it happens. But it is, it is a way of thinking about it that way. Like you can say,

it's, it's not philosophical. It's actually different the way you want to build it. And there's

nothing wrong with that. And you're right to bring in the best of the best of the best of what we

have in this world. Because yeah, I mean, listen, this music is, is music, right? People can, can,

can accept it in the way it is today. And then I think that, all right, well, there's all kinds

of types of music that may be acceptable and accept whatever it is. Because people like it. It's

beat and stuff. But you're at this classical music. There's folk music. There's all kind of stuff

that is, you know, very beautiful artists. That's the other one. I mean, not everybody loves art,

but what is art is a lot of art. You know, they're different things, right? And so, so you bringing

the best of humanity, putting them in one place, and almost like salvaging, you know, the

humanity factor and creating this, this new place where people can, can look forward to actually

being at. And maybe it's a template. This is like the, the, the origin, you know, village or town

where if we can use this model, maybe we can create many of those models where people can live

and drive away from the hustle, basic life, but with modern technology, with stuff that can

actually, you know, make it work. And by the way, we can. There's nothing that's the other

thing. There's nothing that says you cannot have modern technology and all the stuff with a simple

life. They can converge well together, but how do you do it? Now, in the US, for example, we do

have the Amish County in country in Pennsylvania. These people don't, don't even adopt technology.

And they live a very simple life, very healthy life. I mean, I, I, I've been there many times

because I love their lifestyle. And the food is awesome. I mean, you buy the stuff from there.

And there's nothing wrong with that. And they actually choose, and now obviously there's

religious, you know, factors behind, you know, their views of things. But the lifestyle applies.

And they live surrounded within, you know, one of the hustling, you know, environments that you

can be in, right? So, so can it coexist? It can. And it, it's feasible. And you are doing it.

Your concept is that, okay, we can take all this, create an environment that is sustainable.

We have self-sufficiency of everything we want. You know, we can adopt all the stuff that is

cool, take, you know, all that that can help us in our daily lives. But without losing, you know,

track of what is our purpose and how it's going to be helping, you know, humanity or, or at least

the group or the family that you've created in that place. And that's a good start. It's a small

community, whatever, I don't know the size, and you can give us a little bit more details. But,

you know, whatever it is, you develop in this particular thing. And again, when I mentioned the

movies, especially those those in disaster movies and like post-war things, whatever, you always

find in them a community that does exactly that. They, they, they find a haven, you know, where they

actually create a nice little prosperity, you know, prosperity environment where they have,

they're all sustainable, you know, food supplies and all the stuff. And they don't need it. And

they kind of cover themselves from the rest of the world. And they live happy until someone makes

a mess. I'm not, you know, of course, you know, that's that's a doomsday concept. But the idea is

that's, that's, you know, and of course, your building something that's beautiful. We want to make

sure that's that. But, you know, this world is crazy. But, you know, in those movies, that's what

they show. And usually that's the place where people run to for, for, for, you know, basically for

to save themselves, you know, and for salvation and just for, for ease of life. And they find everything

that they need in there. And it's like the promised land, right? And it does, it's not, it's not,

it's real. I mean, it's, it's a good concept. So, so what you're creating, what you're building is

something that's, that's festival admirable, you know, I think honorable. And certainly something

that we should all kind of appreciate. And maybe there's, there's more of this that can be happening.

Your model will probably be maybe the model to template over. So, so, so let's talk about that. I

mean, now, now you, that's the idea. But how easy was it? Well, how is it? How easy is it to actually

do? Because the reason is, you know, it's one thing to talk about things. But like when you get

people in the house in a room, we have too many chiefs, too many ideologies, too many ideas, too

many opinions. It's very difficult. I mean, look at a small meeting. You have five people trying

to decide on one idea. Forget about it. Now, you come in with a philosophy, a whole new vision of

creating this new community that is special, right? Was, was there, I mean, is there resistance?

Is there an appeal? I'm sure there's people that that will be like, oh, this is the ideal place.

Let's sign me up. But there's always someone that's always challenging the status quo. Yeah, that's

you. But there's always somebody that's challenging you because you're leading into this form. So,

what is your experience with that? And, and what would you say to people as someone who's leading?

And someone who's really innovating, changing, live styles, you know, what, what is that message?

Like, you know, how do we get people together and get them to bind to one concept, such as you,

this is a big concept, by the way. Thank you. This is, let me just give some numbers so people can

understand what we're talking about, right? So we're, we're 200 acre land. So it's a big land. We

have a 15 acre farm. We have a, we're, as of today, we are 37 adults and 17 kids.

19 houses. We have, I think, five or six now in the process of construction. We're going to be

eventually between 120 and 150 houses. So we're going to be around maybe 400 people living on the

plus, you know, all the hospitality concepts and people visiting all the time. So I believe

simultaneously we would be something maybe around five to six hundred people who staying on the land

all the time. We now have a school, we don't call it a school, we call it a center for conscious

learning. It is open for everyone and it's so important to say and I love that you say that

yourself, you know, many things that we're doing, you're kind of, you are already anticipating and

I'm like, oh, wow, that's, that's, that's great because that's exactly what we're doing. We are

looking at the archives and blueprint for future projects and that's why I call it like, you know,

the future of human settlements because we believe that again, if there was cities have appeared

because people had to go to cities, right? There were like, there was their, their decision but there

was the forced decision that like, I live somewhere now there is no job and that's like, you know,

I'm moving towards the city because I'm looking for a better life. So now people, when we understand

ourselves as as part of nature, finally, it's happening thanks to call it again when we realized

like, oh my god, wait a second. So now we're, we're liking this modality. How are we going to move

to nature? And of course, there is a modality when like, I myself as a person by land somewhere in

the middle of nowhere and I have to figure everything myself out or there actually can be a settlement,

a type of a settlement where I'm going to move to and it's going to be a new category and now let's

business terms. There's going to be a new category and the terms of in real estate developments,

which is going to be a regenerative village. And this is, we had cities then we had intentional

communities or eco villages when like, they're mainly that was happening when people started

realizing that they don't fit in into the current system where they don't like living in the

city. So they started, they searched for something and they started this moving movement of

eco villages in the intentional communities or kind of homesteads and they were like, oh,

let's buy between friends six houses and we're just going to like, you know, live together and

that there was like lack of regulation, lack of economical binding activity and what's wrong.

So next stage, I believe is this exactly this is a regenerative villages which are designed

intentionally to work as an economical model, which is more or less land-based enterprise

along with residential projects. And I know there's a lot to unpack and that but this is exactly

what we're doing where like it's a regenerative model where the profit is redistributed among

people who live in the village but at the same time individuality is maintained and independence.

So people are actually buying the land that goes title goes into their name and they're all united

by the activity of the mother company or the ecosystem company, which is redistributing profit

that this ecosystem is generating through hospitality, wellness, functional medicine center,

school farming and events and retreats and what's all musical studio and you know whatever

you name a gym and co-working, whatever you put into the salad, whatever you want to bring into

the salad and the things that I mentioned are in our salad. And these things we generate

together this profit and we redistribute this profit among the people who populate the village

and we give part of the profit to the neighboring town so we support the locals through our activity

as foreigners who came to live on their land. We give part of the profit obviously to the team that

is making it happen and it's all regulated through as a business. It's a business essentially.

It's not just a random village that nothing is regulated. But at the same time people leave

their normal life, people live and do remote work, people if they want to join and help to the

ecosystem, they join the ecosystem stuff and they're helping to the ecosystem. But pretty much if

you just want to buy land and just leave your life, you're just buying land and you're living your

life. Nobody has to sit into the drum circle every day and like you know and you will, if you didn't

come now you're expelled from the community, it's not a cow, it's not a community and that's where I

say like you know this this is regenerative villages, this is the cities and that's where like

intentional because intentional communities, they very often we heard about that like you know

this craziness and people when they hear like oh come you know never again. I like I've seen the

movies you know how things appeared, how things can happen. So I believe this is where it's going

and that's how it's kind of growing and developing. So we are this kind of blueprint and that's one

of our business activities also to help other projects in the world to set up their individual

and unique regenerative village and we're doing it already with several projects in the world and

and this is how we are growing. We're not planning to make other arcs in the world because we

believe that infinite growth on finite planet is just impossible but at the same time qualitative

growth is possible and we got our land we are out of 200 acres I believe around 140 acres were

deforested in 1966 it was deforested this jungle was deforested to create a cattle range.

So for 60 years it was a cattle range so we want to bring this example how same humans

us through different consciousness lands we can either make harm to nature or we can regenerate

nature and as of today more than 40% of the land on the planet is depleted according through human

activity so if we move back to nature to the depleted nature and we don't like now just suddenly

start to over popularize pristine beaches we just go to the depleted sites we actually by moving

us back to nature we actually can answer to the main question of like so how are we going to fix

what we what the previous generations of humanity has done so this is there's a lot on back I know.

Oh no no I listen to you and you know first of all it's amazing because your concept is

is really what humanity was built on is to create these communities that come together and they'll

sustain each other and they live obviously that was almost the the beginning and then it just

expanded and then these people got a little more greedy year and there's more stuff and we got

these big populations packed the stuff then the systems got added and politics took over and the

rest you know was history you're going back to basics with with the twist the twist is that you

use it all the good stuff you're also given back to earth and and you're not just abusing you

actually reusing and transforming things that were kind of maybe destroyed to to better places I

mean you're almost like reforming you know the the place or terraforming in terms of space yeah you

know the the the the concept here and and I love it it's a small community and I love what he said

it's it is one as a business so there is an operation to it there is purpose everything there is

you you're solving the problem of finances because I think that's a big one people tend to to flee

you know to to cities and stuff you said for opportunities but you've already covered that

where and by the way it may not be for everybody because someone that wants to live a super

lavish life this may not be for them but for someone that wants a simple life they wake up they

have a healthier life they have a good environment safe so and so forth this could be the ideal scenario

and that's exactly and I love the regenerative you know a village of community that's that's a

whole different like you're regenerating a whole new system that is that is basically

unique in its aspect but yet has the same rules that apply everywhere else but within I guess

certain parameters and and you just have you you you develop your own formula which seems to be working

and again as you said it's a smaller group now you have an expansion plan that can go to a certain

point and that could be the first model by the way you know it's it's finding nature has everything

for us to actually copy and I'm going to some basic you know creatures on this planet they use

them these models of working together in one happy I mean the bees do well as a community they take

care of their own they don't have they have their own world they do stuff and humans they do the

opposite of everything we destroy we just pillage we we we just we're we're crazy I mean as I think

I think one one of the especially species that actually hurts everything I think we do in a good

job you know it's it's just amazing however within us as a humanity I think there are people that

are conscious of financing waking I mean that you hear today more than ever by the awakening there are

a lot of people out there especially after post COVID there's a lot of people that that are adopting

this new doctrine of the awakening it's a whole new world in the by the way there's there's two

after there's the whole new world which is a whole different concept of you know uniting this

world and then one arm you know until political stuff and that's one and then there's the one

where it's the awakening to to live a better life to to save this earth and and just become

you know more of a sustainable place to live because because to your point uh you know when

you freeze on me think about Elon Musk right you thinking about you know going to Mars there's a

reason you know a lot of this discussion about you know going to Mars and other planets is because

we think that we're gonna just lose this earth we're gonna find we need to find a place to actually

repopulate and your concept is really exactly that you're just repopulating within the earth

you know areas and and kind of showing a system that's kind of work that we can apply

got for bit you know i mean war right you know it's it's happening all over us right sometimes it's

very destructive and we don't know what day what crazy you know i think can happen and we sometimes

we have these these doomsday discussions about nuclear war and blah blah blah that could be

devastating a lot but the people that will survive it are the people that can sustain in a small

you know i guess environment just like yours and it could thrive you know i mean obviously

providing the atmosphere and everything doesn't go nuts you know and that's based on you know

the the science behind these things now i mean that's doomsday discussion but but it is still

is it possible there's always that possibility of crazy right once we have these things on earth i

mean a mistake can can be devastating i mean you know we know about Chernobyl we know about other

cases where we had these these these nuclear problems and they're destructive so without going

to that i mean we're talking about a beautiful thing but as long as we're talking about this we have

to also look at what is against it right what's what's available they can actually be completely like

you know the the anti force of all this however you you've already kind of prepared a whole

environment this the selection of the location is great you know you three point is far out from

all the the nonsense anyway where things can happen it's a beautiful place because you got

rain you got all kind of stuff they're going on and you're right it's it's a beautiful place to

create you know the environment where you have a whole new generation of people that can be

raised i would say the proper way i would say in in the less aggressive world because we we live

in somewhat an aggressive world i mean listen i'm in Dubai right now i mean you know this is a

complex zone right now so so i can tell you it's not as by the way we're just just what the audience

is nothing's going on what is in the media versus what's happening is completely different but

nevertheless you know it is there's a war going on right and so the conflict is real and so there

is a lot of going you know crazy that that's happening but it's it's not you know where we feel it

right but anywhere in the world anyone in history we've seen problems that occur and repeat

themselves over and over but very seldom we see people making a difference and and shifting

the paradigm literally what you're doing right now she and the whole concept just something like

literally just new and uh what's not really new it's just improved i would say am i am i getting

in that yeah you're getting it completely right and i i think it's it's just acting with intention

rather than reacting to where the world is taking us and i believe people who are joining the

arc we are people who decided to not look back anymore and not to try to fix the the system that

is collapsing and we understand that we cannot do that but actually to invest our energy resources

and time into the something new that is emerging and to show this example that a better way is

possible and you asked me a one question that i did not answer that how easy is that or was that

and the answer is of course no nothing is easy about it but don't get me wrong it's by saying

nothing is easy i don't mean that it is not pleasurable this is the life that is so rewarding on so many levels

it's very healthy it's very active it's a great life that is fulfilling it's a life that

not easy at times especially now that we're in the process of construction and you know making it happen

only from last year we started having we started having events we started bringing community to the

land people i call this last year the return of emotion so it's you know it's just like the land

started thanking us back we eat from our own farm it's amazing the there are still three,

four years ahead which are going to be pretty intense in the sense of like for us for the team

who are making it happen but people who are joining it they're living the best life they're

enjoying just like everything that was created so far and new things are appearing more and more

and we are actually the interesting thing that you said like you know there are people who are

challenging the system and people who challenge me personally and this is uh it's also like you

what is what is the governance system that we are taking forward right like we now see the

governance systems in the countries and we realize that almost none of them work in a sense

and maybe maybe the truth is that governing in general is not possible because people don't want to be

governed we all strive for freedom and at the same time maybe the people don't have to be governed

what has to be governed is the system that operates operating model of this business entity where

people can have as much freedom as they want and for the next three years we're found their

lead enterprise so I'm governing it and we're transitioning towards stewards led stewards are the

people who are purchasing properties of the arc and who populate the arc so we're transitioning

towards stewards led model where people who become residents of the arc they are going to be making

the decisions how this is going to be developed further along with the team that is taking care of

the financial sustainability of the enterprise so this is something and there are some important

things for example that people can serve there is going to be a stewards board that is going to

serve for two years every person like every half year like new person is going to be re-injected

we eliminate voting so people don't vote for who is going to serve on the board but people

going to be randomly chosen from the amount of people who express a desire to serve so therefore

we'll leave a lot of the chance to to the universe to the chance rather than by creating

politics and you know and alliances and people choosing but of like if hurricane decides to

to serve you just say and we just pull your pull a name and maybe we didn't pull your name

from the hat and maybe it's gonna your name gonna be pulled out of the hat in half a year when

we're gonna go to the next stage and this is and this is something that is there are so many

little things which we have to think about in order to make this intentional and distinct

from what exists let me name all the issue that that are existing around the political world

exactly because I'm by the way again I'm gonna go to the joke to the movies but that's what you see

in those movies like where these these people wind up in a separate planet and then you have these

these divisions and factions that they brought along because because it's all about power right

who's running who's making a decision everybody becomes you know there's always someone that

challenged you mentioned something of challenging it is very typical human I mean you make a

decision well why why why why do you want to do that why why you why I mean you found that

obviously it was the idea but the someone will still actually come and challenge your own idea

because no what we should do with this one the other one because again opinions are something

that we have and you have all these alpha egos that happen with humans but a lot of the concept

that you're eliminating a lot of that because the way you do when you're giving a rotation

span anyone that's that's willing to be part of it they'll be part of it they just have to get

into the hat and then they're not selected here that person is gone the next pool is there

and they get a chance again to be part of the system and so on and so forth now here's my question

though I know it's it's a limited people in the arc that you will have over the span of it and

at least as as it builds and finalizes now what is there selection criteria let's say you know

and let's say you meet your quota of all they are you know eligible what happens to people that

still want to be there I mean does that trigger a secondary arc somewhere else and another you know

like you multiply the units now in different places I mean again just curiosity someone watching

right now it's probably going to be like all right well you guys cool you got 400 people then

what happens to the rest of people that want to be part of this new system right so what do you

say to that I believe that there are so many people who want to transition to the life like this

we don't want to create multiple arcs in the world but we are definitely going to be helping

to people to create similar systems and there are so many people who want to leave these

enterprises that we have a lot of people who are reaching out to us from all over the world who

have land who have the similar ideas or who want to collect certain elements and they're seeking for

guidance and for help so that's what we're doing as part of our enterprise as well we're

giving a service of consultancy and implementation of the similar models in different locations in the

world so I believe honestly if we're going to look from here in the next maybe 20 years we're

going to be so many similar projects and I hope that we are going to help to contribute to this

movement and that this movement is going to be intentional rather than reactive and that's where

I believe people who want to join similar projects like these they're their way they have to do

these due diligence and understanding how these projects were appearing and what is the desire what

is the vision that stands behind it from what I mean essentially they might not be arcs but they'll

be just you know similar whatever they can call it whatever it is yeah but they'll be just

communities regenerative communities that are using the same model you just don't want it to be

a franchise because then it becomes a little bit different if I'm getting the basic so you keep

in everybody with their own identity they get to call it whatever they get but they use the same

because if it works for you it should be duplicate working for exactly as long as they can adopt

the same system it's like again I mentioned franchise because that's really what it is you

you create a model that works and everybody else kind of use it and it's kind like you know just

cookie cutter do it and it works and it's sustainable right so so in a way you create a franchise

community without having to franchise to it it's just your identity your identity is yours this is

your community it's like the the I guess the the model the number one like when you go to development

right you have always the model house that looks always the best and that's where like all the

stuff was people see it this is you you create that first the origin you know model and then

everybody else can have their own versions of it you know plus minus using your your rules and

formula your your your discoveries for you know system your sustainability you know and of course

they can expand it maybe it's not for 100 families whatever for one people it could be more

depends on what land they have and so on so far now you know I personally I love the concept

I mean to be honest with you it sounds like you know people used to be in anywhere I mean because

if you have what it takes to to sustain to have your life and have it in a healthier environment

not the wrong way that right it's it's a it's a concept and I love what you said early it's not a

call it's not religious it's not that this is not like where we have these these mystical places

where you know it's these groups only and that's another question for people I watch and listen

I'm assuming there is no no discrimination in terms of who is there you know there's no such thing

as that as long as as long as they have the willingness to participate in in the group and and

kind of you know I work towards the common goal right is that zone of getting so that doesn't

matter what the nomination what ethnicity what race it's all one and I think that that's what

would really oh that's I think what's going to make it the the ideal environment because what we

do know in all the world and all the cities there's a lot of the other stuff yeah and if you can

create the environment where everybody's welcome we all work together as humans and by the way

you you mentioned COVID a couple times and frankly it is sad that I actually made a joke about

this many times humans fight each other until we got a bug and they were all connected and became one

against the common enemy it's like this the same joke when if you watch independence independence

data movie you know all of a sudden humanity comes together against one common enemy and then we

don't we forget you know our differences our racial you know the debate and you know culture or

whatever it becomes one target and here the target is let's build a better you know community

you know it's funny I one of the the the first jobs I did well my first job and that brought me

to the US was working at Disney World now Disney World I was an Epcot Epcot stands for experimental

prototype community of tomorrow okay I didn't know that so you're creating a prototype community

of tomorrow you know it's like it's the same concept so maybe the arc we have to figure out something

for it wow I didn't know that yeah yeah so really it's whatever because what it does what it was

is that putting these these bevillians the technology in one place when people come in and kind of

like almost lived the future and the cultures in one place and so that was the vision and if you go

to Epcot you'll see there's a lot of tech that they build you know before the take a step we

already have it there I mean at least we've had it you know in the early 90s and 80s so so it was

it was that in that that concept so you really you have some of that you know vision which which is

an awesome vision to create something for the future that is different and it is a prototype what

you're doing is really unique you know maybe there they have been variations similar but not the

same not the way you have a desire and that the way you're operating it so that's that's a

pretty cool thing well so so so not now what is what is the end goal means really to to to just

build for the future and have the world can't just change for better am I getting that picture right

yeah you're getting it right and just to leave a good quality life live in nature and

have vacations in the cities oh that's good like when yeah opposite now you want to

deposit in the city yeah yeah like we're having vacations in the cities the best time like I'm

I love coming to the cities I'm like wow this is so much is happening but like you know my 90% of my

time is in nature and yeah and just contribute with one personal life to a more beautiful world

that's possible well I have to say all right I think I think you want to something I think you're

definitely a pioneer you are you are changing the world in the concept you will have a print in

the history that you know you will want the few that that kind of got away from I would say the

rat race and and design something that maybe really how we should live without harming each other

with a harming the environment and enjoying life and building better you know and I think that's

a very beautiful concept and a model so so kudos to you and and you you're you're you're community

therefore for making it happen and I hope that this message in this show gets to a lot of people out

there that may be tired of everything is going on and maybe they can start you know really considering

an approach such as this to make a difference now and by the way it's funny because even I do live

in the cities but I've always stayed away from the city so like I'm really suburban so I go to the city

for work whatever but I live out I love my nature I love my backyard I love my greens you know

the little things that I can grow in the backyard I will do them and so I only go because I have

no choice to do the business you know but that's really it so and if by the way for me personally

my my ideal scenario is to have a big you know farm somewhere away from everything

we have a little bit of all that the independence there that I can I can do my stuff there and

every now and then I can go and just check in on the world and come back now that's ideal for me

or ideology for now but but certainly it's it's part of my I guess vision to live personally

now obviously not a community like yours but at least just me you know isolated myself into this kind

of life where it's a lot less congested and you know noisy right so so I think a lot of people

would just enjoy that I mean there's nothing better than that by the way you know your back could

drop is really nature I got a wall behind me and we're looking at the mountains we're looking at the

greens so it's a beautiful that I'm sure the weather is better there I'm sure the food the food

quality is awesome there's no snow there's it's always nice and I mean I know you get a lot of rain

right I mean we got all of the rain in September October it's like rain season rainy season which

is amazing only that time and then the rest is just normal yeah what's the temperature average

it's you thinking in Fahrenheit no I don't know Fahrenheit so like it's 29 so it's not 29 so it's

now 29 yeah I think that's there's a very that's like in the 80s 85 yeah yeah something like that

so it's not it's not bad that's actually beautiful well listen I I'm not a views but I am in

VC you know you you've made it for yourself you know you took the journey you found yourself and

I I'm assuming you're much felt felt now and you're just giving that vibe to the world so thank

you for doing that anything you want to leave our audience is wet before we end the show no I think

it I think that would be it and I think it's just like the an invitation to think about to be

conscious about how we leave and what is the next stage and how we raise our kids and for

under what world to look not to look at the kids not at the like how they can be successful in the

world but how can they create a better world and that's I think and then they're going to be the

most successful people in the world no there was a slight cut there if you don't mind just repeat

yeah like so the invitation there is to think and like how we leave and to be conscious about

this process and to look at our kids as not of like raising them to how they would fit into that

world to be successful but how they can actually be the change makers that are going to create a more

beautiful world that's pretty powerful folks I mean to watch and listen to this I mean that could

be a life changer for a lot of us if we can adopt this model here so well listen all right thank

you so much for for an interesting discussion very deep philosophical in a way it is utopia I would

say because you are creating a world that is unique and hopefully we'll have a lot more of that

model around the world and you know people can learn from that a lot how we can get together

as unity no conflict you know financially we can still make it happen and also give back to our

planet and not destroy it so it is a beautiful you know I guess a mission that's that's what it is

I mean if you're in a mission you have the vision to it and you're building it so thank you so

much and that's it folks I'm here at the end of our show hopefully you enjoyed the discussion

and yes take it and I'll have the connection with Mariette also on the description it shows

if someone wants to reach out and you guys have a plan to make a difference and change the

the environment and the way you want to live if you reach out he's the the work is to share this

value with the rest of the world so maybe that could be a good start point that would be said

very good age bye for now

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