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We'd love to hear from the filth because we're asking the question, what is your Max Crosby moment in life?

When did you back out too late or were you the person who got backed out on too late?

I want to hear the worst, the worst, the worst.

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Max Crosby not go into the Ravens for the two first rounders and now diminished value there.

They turn around, they sign Tray Hendricks and so the question Derek had put on our rundown.

I thought this was a great one is when is it too late to back out of plans in life or in sports?

Let's start with that question there, first and foremost.

How late is too late and of course the follow-up is what are the plans?

Somebody on the text line said, are we talking like a dinner invitation or an international trip?

Well, that's a lot of planning.

We'll take whatever you got.

It all depends.

If you got one word to the international trip, you're talking we've been making plans and day or two before.

There's an emergency, that's one thing, but we're talking just back it out.

I'll say this.

I don't do this often, but as I get older in life, I don't mind when plans fall through.

I don't do it like me per se, but like if people cancel plans on me, I'm like, all right, it is what it is.

People get older, they have commitments to their significant others or children.

I would say the appropriate thing, like if you have plans to go hang out with your friends,

it's the appropriate thing to do is to call somebody earlier in the day or text them saying,

I'm not going to make it out tonight.

If you do it, and if you do it like within a couple of hours of them meeting, that's fine as well.

But if someone's already at that location and you call them and say, I'm not going to be able to come through,

that's way too late and that's rude in my book.

Yeah.

I mean, standing anybody up is rude at all.

Doing it late unless you have a really, really legit, good excuse, but if it's just like you're not responding,

I mean, you just leave them hanging.

That's tough.

Well, if you don't respond either, that's that's lame as hell.

Are you a flake?

No.

I wouldn't say I'm afraid.

I think that when I do, I have to commit to it.

I do flake.

But I would say I'm more non-committal.

No, I, I more don't realize that with you because I'm like, I wait, like you guys are telling me to do something

and I'm like, it's not like I, because there's the people who wait and are like, well, let me see if

there's something better going on that day.

Yeah.

That's not really how I am.

Because I'm like, oh, that's going on.

Oh, that's not it.

No, I mean, like, I'm like, stuff comes up.

But I'm like, I'm not usually like, well, there might be something more fun.

If I'm non-committal, it's usually because I'm like, man, do I just want to like lay in bed?

Yes.

And I blame you.

I don't mind flake.

I'm not that put in my life to where I'm like, do I really want to go out?

I want to just chill in my house.

And this is a true thing.

Like, I can't tell you how many times I've been canceling as an adult and it makes me happy.

Yes.

I'm like, oh, thanks.

That's not the answer, dude.

There's many time where I'm like, hey, I'm calling the Uber and someone hits me up as like, hey, man,

actually, I'm not going to make it through.

I'm like, oh, that's fine with me.

Like, it's, it's just something you get, you know, used to as you get older.

People are going to cancel on you.

They're going to, you know, not, not go through with their commitments.

I would say for you, I remember one in particular a couple of weeks ago, we were going to meet up

for a conference championship hanging out to watch these.

You were trying to get us all together and like show down or something where I was one.

I was kind of spearheading and I was like, we should all go and watch the games that day.

And then Jack, everybody was like, hey, well, we'll meet Cops in our north beach.

And I was like, don't hold your breath.

We'll see if that actually happens.

And then where I live, I can't meet you.

And then, and then sure enough that day off, you're like, guys, I know this is my thing,

but I'm going to have to cancel.

But then everybody else's problem with that.

But Danny canceled too.

Yes.

Danny canceled.

And then started to add the answer.

People are saying, I'm not going through it.

Like people are comfortable with that now.

It's like, you know what?

The cancel plans on me.

I'll find another thing to do.

It's all good.

Five three or six sentences.

Dinner with no reservations, like a day, at least a half a day.

That kind of sucks.

But that's enough.

Something involving tickets, et cetera.

It's got to be at least a week.

Yeah, I would say that's appropriate.

That's to be.

That's to be a couple days out.

Like if you told somebody, hey, you want to go to a concert?

And they said, yes.

And they're like, hey, I'm not going to be able to make it now.

I'm like, all right.

Well, you gave me at least a little bit of time.

If they tell you the day of, that sucks.

It only came down.

What is your max crossbow moment?

When did you get your plans canceled too late?

Or did you cancel on somebody else?

Five one oh, simply says.

This is the only thing they said.

If I want to, my dad already paid the caterer.

What?

Two.

Oh, man.

We talking, we talking Robbie Hart at the wedding.

Oh, that's.

We talking.

And Linda, you got to give us more details though.

Yeah.

Can we give more details on that one?

That's your shirt, right?

Anyway, KBR is the number to call 707 says I moved my really cool North Beach flat to

Colorado.

So I could be closer to my girlfriend.

I was there less than a month.

And she dumped my son.

Yeah.

That's a big time commitment.

It's a little late after I suddenly told you ahead of time.

You know what?

After the lease.

That's a little late.

Yeah.

I would say that's max crossby late.

I would say so.

I signed the lease.

I talked to Linda bomb already.

Okay.

Now that adds to the conversation.

Was it too late for the Ravens to back out?

Not because it's not the official start of the new league year.

But I do think.

I don't know.

The whole thing the way it was handled was shady, especially with Tray Hendrix in signing

this morning.

And I know that they're excused right now is what we were trying to pair max crops you

with Hendrix.

I know you weren't.

No.

No, no.

That's easy to say.

The fact of the matter is teams don't care about the optics here.

Um, and that's fine.

Like every cost is talking to the media right now.

It's his.

It's his reputation.

And I saw last nine people two were like, this is where no one should do business with

the Ravens again.

I call bull crap on that.

They will.

This happens.

It's unfortunate.

It just is shady.

Like you can't tell me that they didn't bring in Max Crosby yesterday while they were also

kind of not, not, you know, not trying to, you know, kind of their losses at the same time

where if things don't go through with Max Crosby, I think they said, if we agree to this

trade without actually doing it, we can look at all the medicals and we can make our full

decision with all the cards in front of us.

And they didn't like what they saw.

Right.

We can't be ours.

And I'm going to call in text another one here.

Six five.

I once.

I once set up two dates for two beautiful women at a sports bar in North Beach.

There's a sitcom.

We stayed in contact.

Every messenger on Tinder told them to meet me there hours apart.

Oh, this is dangerous for you play with fire gave me time to watch the Warriors game and

then see date number two.

All right.

You're thinking about yourself too.

The morning of I realized that the first lady of interest wasn't as appealing to me as

I once thought before after a conversation with her throughout the day.

So I canceled on date number one and I kept date number two on the schedule and told her

to come early in date number one's place.

I canceled date number one about all dude three hours before the meat.

That's a little late.

Oh, man.

I think she was at work and just didn't see her phone because it was over the app.

She ended up showing up as I was downing a beer with date number two at the bar.

Yeah, I got with my pants down ended up marrying date number two.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Voice six five.

So it was meant to be hell of a day.

Yeah, the best ending of that.

I've been went home with both of them.

Yeah.

Got caught with my pants down.

Then we went home.

Yeah.

That's pretty good.

That's like when George tries to break up with one girl are actually both girls at once.

And they're like, no, we're still in this and he dates both of them at the same time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The exact same time.

Yes.

So is this over?

No.

No.

No.

No.

Okay.

Okay.

Four of which is life should be in full of surprises.

I'm good with people canceling and canceling on other people.

It happens.

What do you think of the sevens as this ghosting a girl after after intimate relations count?

I mean, I don't know.

That's not really what we're talking about.

I just don't be a date.

Yeah.

I mean, that's more to the point.

Yeah.

Now we're not talking about that.

We're talking about like if you made plant like the example of the guy with two different dates.

That's a perfect one.

Because you're canceling plans ahead of time.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Two of us is at the deck bus cut cancel his wedding.

I don't know if you saw this.

I wrote this one down.

Prescott and his fiance have broken up a month before their wedding.

Yes.

During their engagement party because she wouldn't sign the prenat.

Oh, I was like, well, dude, how many, how many playoff games have she lost?

Yeah, right.

I'm saying she allowed her losing playoff games.

Dacker in that one.

By the way, Derek, you should be concerned.

It's an Italian wedding.

Ooh.

Uh, wow.

Okay.

Do you think that was going to fly?

I know.

That's kind of he think it was going to fly.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Well, I mean, obviously, because he asked you to do it.

I mean, he must.

If he should have been a conversation earlier on, if you're that angry over it, then maybe

he was right.

Yeah, maybe.

Maybe.

I don't know.

I don't know.

That's not that's that's somebody else's relations.

But uh, Rory McElroy had that too.

Remember Caroline Wazniaki?

They were together for years.

And he broke up with her.

I think on like a two minute phone call, like after wedding invitations were out, like

just what you said the, once you said the invitations, it's a little like the quote.

It's a little late.

Yeah.

I say it's a little late.

It's a little late.

It's a little late.

Rory.

I would say so.

It's a little late.

Okay.

But that one was pushed on him.

Yeah, but he did it.

Okay.

So like great moments and sports where you backed out, uh, yes.

But he never fully agreed to become the next head coach of the jets and then ownership

changed.

Woody Johnson came in and he was not happy about that.

And yeah, I, I had it like there was no, there was no, there was no, there was no introductory

press conference.

The only press conference he had was going to be that day.

And it wasn't like the resignation, the resignation president, exactly like it wasn't

like a press conference where, you know, this didn't take place the week before the season

started.

This happened in January.

So I, I don't think that's bad of Bella check.

I, I know Jets fans hate him to this day, but he was pushed into it because he wanted

to go coach a different team and then belt, and then built ourselves.

I mean, I know why I know why it happened.

Yeah.

Just a little late.

I don't think it's late at all.

I don't think it's late.

Andrew Luck.

Dude, Toge Simpson who already drafted in fantasy was a little late, it's about to the

phone lines.

Nash is in Monterey.

What is your max cross-view moment?

It's a little late.

Nash, you're on these sports later.

What's up, bro?

We got Nash, Nash, you there?

Nash, you there?

All right.

I guess in here.

Sorry.

Yeah.

We got you, bro.

All right.

So, sort of for me, I got a D1 offer to go play at a CSU back in early 2000s.

Yeah.

Not going to name names.

Okay.

I guess who the coach was at the time.

And my big thing about that was the deal was for me to allow me to be a football player,

basketball, and do track.

And he got so p.o.

about it because it's system coach didn't retry and print on when I saw my scholarship

that he basically wrote a nasty one of my father's saying is the last time I recruit

a ghetto kid from a Catholic school.

Yeah.

So, I backed out and then I decided to go division three, playing Colorado and then we

subsequently played them in basketball and kicked a little crap out of them.

How late did you pull out of the of the offer?

Oh, I had the plane ticket and everything and then literally about 10 hours before I was

going to play off that screw it.

Nice.

Nice, but it was more of a shove it's true.

That was like that.

That was a, that was like a punitive screw you pretty pretty much, you know, I hate blue

move town.

So I didn't fail it in the last or anyway.

Appreciate you, Nash.

Thanks for the comment.

808.

We do have breaking news.

The 49ers have made a trade.

They're acquiring a Cowboys defensive tackle.

OSSA, a Diggie Zua who's not a bad defensive tackle was a numbers game.

They had a Kenny Clark and who else is on that defensive line?

I was hoping they were, I was kind of looking at him.

He's not bad, dude.

They already have Quinn and Williams.

No, this is definitely going to help their defensive front.

We don't have the details yet.

Four hours of a crowd.

OSSA, a Diggie Zua.

There we go.

It's a third round pick going to the Cowboys and he has a 16.

He makes 16 million a year just in a contract extension with a couple of years ago.

So I think that's a pretty good move for the 49ers.

They definitely need some interior past rush presence.

Yeah.

I think that third round picks not bad.

It's a pretty good player.

The Cowboys valued him, but just numbers game with how many defensive tackles they have

right now.

So yeah, good move by the 49ers to get OSSA, a Diggie Zua.

49ers create a third round into the Cowboys for OC and one more time, OSSA, a Diggie Zua.

OSSA, a Diggie Zua.

Damn, there are teaching me the names now.

Yeah.

I know football names.

I didn't think I'd see the day.

Out of Copeland D-Pop, Tim Webb will talk more about this, the 49ers have added a defensive

tackle via trade.

We'll talk more about it a bit later at the 450 Brian Peacock, a locked on 49er podcast.

He's going to join us to talk to him, that is free agency.

We can also talk more about this, this Raven situation and I want more of your Max Crosby

moments.

What is the moment?

When is it too late to pull out of plans in life or in sports?

And also once your Max Crosby moment, were you the Raiders or were you the Ravens?

I like these stories that are coming in.

We can talk about times we got left, left hold in the bag, hold the banana bread.

Well, yeah, but that's not really the same thing.

It's not.

She just came out to pick up the banana plans to make or to eat the banana bread.

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We're going to catch up with Sam Amick of the athletic in about 15 minutes at 350.

Steph Curry is going to be out for at least 10 more days, five more games.

We're talking more about that with Sam as the warriors are done so circle on the train.

Yeah, I mean, I was into the jazz and the bulls, the jazz tried to lose, they're not both

teams are trying to try and they won those games on accident.

You also come back to back.

That's a tough deal.

Yeah.

Perzingus is not the guy you anticipated.

I mean, I don't even know what they anticipated.

He's kind of what I anticipated for games.

Yeah, it's kind of what I anticipated having a pot's disease or whatever it's going on

with him right now.

Oh, man.

Pass the physical.

Yeah, somehow passed his physical.

What the hell's going on here?

All right.

We're talking about things for us a little late.

It's a little late.

Perzingus.

Yeah.

I mean, Steph will probably come back as we get closer to me if the warriors are contending

for the plane.

He'll probably come back for that.

But I don't know.

Maybe they may carry over to next season, but I'm starting to, I'm starting to not come

up with good reasons for him to return at this point.

Well, the 49ers are our guided light until John's baseball starts two weeks from today.

Oh, see, I dig his UI.

You knew his 49er.

He's acquired for a third round pick.

Is that a 26 third rounder?

Yes, it is.

So they've given up their third round pick and I'd have to look again.

I know they have multiple.

I think they have three fifth rounders do that.

Yes.

I think they have a one or two.

I think that's what it was.

I think it was a one or two or three.

I'm sorry.

They have.

I'm looking at up.

They have three fourth rounders.

Three fourth rounders.

Okay.

That's even better.

Or better.

Sorry.

It's coming in real.

Four fourth rounders.

My bad.

Four four is one five.

Yeah.

That's too many.

Yeah.

In this draft.

This is stands right now.

So they've acquired another defensive tackle of veteran 27 years old and again, they acquired

Quentin Williams of the trade deadline to the Cowboys.

So they were looking to recoup draft capital, which pretty good for them to get a third

rounder there.

Yeah.

The guys played 84 games played all 17 last year, three and a half sacks, 17 sacks for

his career.

And he he started 13 of 17 and he started 76 of his 84 career games.

So a guy who was seeing the field a lot, he's played five years all with Dallas.

Yeah.

And he's going to be a starter for you.

No, he is.

And he's a good defensive tackle, like, you know, like as you just said, there was a numbers

game with the Dallas Cowboys where they acquired Kenny Clark a year ago and Quentin Williams.

And they just signed another defensive tackle and they go into a three, four defense.

So he just need those guys on the front there as far as your defensive tackles.

But yeah, I think this is a good move.

It's a guy that's under contract for the next three seasons, actually four seasons here.

You get out of the next year in the deck cap won't bite you in the ass, but this is what

the 49ers needed.

And he did more interior pass rush presence and this helps out CJ West and Alfred Collins.

So I like the move.

I know some people are anticipating maybe more of a traditional pass rusher and outside

guy.

John Franklin Myers was potentially that going to be that guy, but he signed with Robert

Salon, Tennessee.

And he was more versatile.

We could put him at defensive and or defensive tackle.

Osa de Gizua is really just a defensive tackle, but not a bad move because they need help

everywhere on the defensive line.

Yeah.

So that's, I mean, it's good.

And stopping as well.

And you're not going to get Michael Williams back immediately.

No, I don't believe you think I'll be back in the early part of the season.

He went down mid year.

So I mean, again, this is more help considering what Eric branch told us yesterday.

So I know a lot of fans might not be as confident in a guy like CJ West are offered Collins

as every day guys, but the diners may have no choice but to go there and then add more

death.

But now this gives you a little bit more flexibility.

I think it allows you to have CJ West come off the bench now.

Yeah.

And according to sources, this was the player that was included in the trade package that

Dallas made to the Raiders for Max Crosby.

They were offering a first, a second, and Osa de Gizua and now, obviously that's off

the table.

Damn.

If you're a Raider fan, that's not sound right now.

Not great.

No, does this, does this package sound like, okay, I, you know, I, I threw him out there

because it sounds okay.

Because when the Cowboys were in on Max Crosby, I thought they were going to include this

guy because, you know, he was expendable with the number of defensive tackles they had.

So I thought that if you offered two first round picks in Osa de Gizua, that would get

it done.

But obviously, the Cowboys don't want to give up a first round pick for Max Crosby.

So yeah, the Raiders lost 49ers game.

They're going to good player.

It only came to a 415, anyway, five, six, two, seven, that number to call and the number

to text.

You good with the tires, giving up a third round or four, an established starter because

I'm feeling pretty good about that.

No, not bad.

Just make it 16 million in your Osa de Gizua joins the 49ers for a third round and they

still have three fourths as well.

Plus, they're probably just going to drop the injured running back in the third area,

right?

Let's go back to the phone lines here and the text line, I should say, the Golden State

lumber and showroom text line, before we catch up with Sam Amick, more on your Max Crosby

moments in your lives, when it is too late to pull out of plans, 530 checks in, how about

that episode of Entourage?

Are you an Entourage guy, by the way?

Yeah.

I've seen the most of the series.

I saw the movie.

I'm a big Entourage guy.

I'm a movie's whatever.

I'm a huge Entourage guy.

How about the episode of Entourage, when he tells Harvey he's going to sell him that

a year?

Yeah, dude.

And then he pulls out at the last moment over dinner, it's been a minute, but Harvey

almost has a hard time getting the bar, it's true.

And he says he'll never work with Vinnie Chase or Eric again.

Well, that stuff in Hollywood, it was a little late.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, but there's, there's no morals in Hollywood when it comes to that stuff.

Like, you see these first episode of the studio where they pull out on Martin Scorsese

and they get the the Kool-Aid movie, right?

And Scorsese he wants to make, right?

He's going to do the whole thing.

Yeah, but it's not about Kool-Aid.

It's who's the guy Jim Jones that that created the cold and you drink the Kool-Aid, obviously,

they wanted to be under the, the brand of Kool-Aid movie.

They wanted to be like a Kool-Aid movie.

Yeah.

It was a good movie.

Like the Barbie movie.

Exactly.

So they wanted, they bought the movie rights and told Scorsese you can never make the

movie.

And it's all the whole joke is, well, that was going to be my last picture ever.

That stuff happens in Hollywood all the time.

That's why that show is so great.

Yeah.

People put out deals all the time.

It sucks.

It is business though.

949 says one time I was hosting a party, even though I was cash strapped, I decided

to order a little more than I needed knowing I'd have some leftovers for a couple days.

This guy named Derek shows up on his own with his temporary completely fleas.

It's a little late.

I need to show that big.

I don't think he's worth that big of a applause.

No, not really.

One of the perks is happening.

One of the perks of having kids is that you can pull out of plans at any time.

That's just going to excuse.

That is a good to excuse.

More people taking it on their max crossbeam moment.

Four and five says my moment was when my ex-girlfriend canceled our plans for my birthday

weekend.

Dude, the night before we were going to leave, but it was his birthday.

Got a nice player spa, sweet book that the silver legacy in Reno have been there.

I've had one of those sweet.

Wait a minute.

It was his birthday there.

Trained to get to the hold on yards.

I lost all my money because the last minute cancellations that sucked, but not as bad as

they're telling me that she was pregnant a few weeks later.

Life comes at you fast.

Dude, that's okay.

George and Frisco.

Oh, what about George?

We love George.

Shout out to silver legacy.

That's my dear George.

So, man, she can cancel your plans.

That sucks.

Six, five doses.

The New Orleans Hornets in 09 sending Tyson Chandler to the Oklahoma City Thunder was

rescinded.

I fulfilled a physical due to injury.

You're a freak for remembering that.

Yeah, I don't remember that at all.

You're a basketball maniac.

Of course I remember net head.

Yeah.

Six, five.

Oh, you know the Tyson.

I would just think about the Chris Paul.

Yes.

Nobody's remembering that.

That's the first one that comes to mind.

He's like, yeah, I will remember Tyson.

And that was a bogus reason too.

I understand that the Pelicans, uh, what's the horns at the time?

What was the hornets?

They didn't like, I get, I get, they didn't, they were up for sale.

I think was the thing.

Wasn't I think they were up for sale and David Stern did well.

They took over.

The NBA took over as basically the owners of the team, like, you know, we did with, with

the etch pose before we were sold to the, exactly.

I think their point was like, they didn't want to sell off the number one asset for nothing

when they're trying to sell the team.

Yeah, but then he got straight to the clippers.

Yeah, but let the new ownership decide that.

Okay.

Was the point which, I mean, I hated the Lakers at the time and still not a fan.

So I'm okay with it.

Two of the Ravens backing out is not as bad as a crossbeast premature message to

raider fans.

He probably should have waited on that one.

Two of the words of the George W Bush mission accomplished, and yeah, I was watching

that when he released that video and I was like, this is heartfelt and I like everything

he's saying.

But if he has to walk back, these words, good Lord, he turns around and he's like, now

watch me hit this quarterback.

Yeah, seriously.

He's like, Raider Nation.

I just want to say that I'm sorry that we didn't fulfill expectations.

I feel like I let you guys down, but flock nation and Raider be here.

It's like, oh man, no, no, no more.

Flock nation.

One six.

I was living and working in Brussels, Belgium for Levi Strauss for four years.

They were transferring me to their Singapore office and movers came.

We packed everything up the day before the big move.

I got a phone call.

They told me we're not sending you to Singapore after all.

We're bringing you back to San Francisco HQ without a job.

Happened in 1995.

I love the company.

Well, if the company's shortly thereafter after 18 and a half years with the company,

that's okay.

Calvin.

Damn, Calvin.

That's a little late, dude.

You plan it.

Do you imagine the mental flop?

It's a little waiting for Singapore.

Yeah.

You're going back to it.

San Francisco.

You don't have a job now.

Dude, how about Philippine Airlines?

The day before my flight?

Hey, your flight's not here anymore.

Yeah, I heard about this.

What the hell happened?

I told you, I woke up.

You're flight tomorrow night.

Yeah.

Your flight tomorrow night's canceled.

You're on the Thursday flight.

What do you mean?

So you have to go to night.

It's a little late.

It's a little early for me.

But it's a good heads up.

That could told you at the airport.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, the cancel canceling the flight a day before is wild, too.

It is.

I don't really understand what that was.

It's not too late for that, but it's wild.

I think they were saving money because they were trying to cram everybody into fewer flights

is what it is.

661 says you see the Baltimore fan that shaved his head.

I think you might regret it now.

Did you shave his head for Max Crosby?

I did not see that at all.

It got like a tattoo of Crosby on the side.

Yeah.

Are shaved in like Max Crosby will never be here unless I shave my head.

I saw some fan who said if, if DeCosta pulls off a trade for Max Crosby, I will never

say another bad word about him and I'll get his name tattooed on my body.

Well, I was like, I wonder if you did that or what if he did it over the weekend?

Yeah, you imagine.

I don't wait until the until at the actual official day.

Yeah.

He drives on your tattoo and also with the contract.

Arson judge.

Of course, people check in with, um, yeah, 530 who checked in earlier said dinner dinner

with no reservations, you can cancel like a day before, but you got a week in advance

for an event with tickets.

Okay.

Did Arson judge like that's where John Heyman got a wrong Aaron judge never actually agreed

to terms with the giants.

No.

He was going to say he was going to come to the giants is what it sounded like I'm going

to the giants and then the Yankees were like, what do we and then they called the Yankees

again.

And we're like, he's like, what do we have to get this done?

Yeah.

Like the Yankees like we'll get it done.

Steinberger said what do you want the ninth year?

Yes.

And they said, let's hear his out.

Yeah.

It was like, that's the deal that's out there.

That's what they're going to give me.

Sometimes it happens while because that happened days after and I'll remember well, where

he was going to appear on all three shows.

He was going to do a press conference that morning, but go on with Marcus in Marcus as

Marcus Boucher, Marcus Thompson filling in and then that morning, we got the news that

the press conference has been postponed.

I remember joking around with you, Tim.

Tom.

Yeah.

And Mike Holter saying they're they're getting out of this deal and hoes like stop.

Shut up.

Sure enough, they did.

Yeah.

I mean, Tom was the one who was like, I'm not buying it until slush has it.

Yeah.

Tom was like, when's the slush?

It tells me.

Yeah, exactly.

Then I'll believe it.

But you know what?

That's so different because coastal rate was a free agent.

So you're not screwing anybody in the end.

The Ravens have you want to slice and dice this?

They screwed over the Raiders.

They did.

I kind of wonder to like, would this have happened to another team?

I don't think the Raiders are like in app 30 like that.

I say that.

Let me, let me pull back on that.

Like I wonder, I wonder how because we know there's such a hierarchy of teams and owners.

Like I wonder how much that trickle down happens to presidents.

And especially as like spy tech, he's not like been there forever, you know what I mean?

He's just like in here.

Yeah.

So like it's not like this is an entrenched thing for him where he's got great relationships

or terrible ones around the league.

It's not like they were looking to screw the Raiders.

They were looking to put all the cards on the table.

And I think their preference was to get a better player in Max Crosby.

But here's the thing.

Like I said to you earlier.

If you cannot get Crosby and get a little bit worse of a player in Hendricks, and it's

a bit older and just pay him, you were going to have to pay Crosby that much, not more

anyway.

They're given Hendricks and 60 guaranteed four years, one, 14 or something.

But I'm like, you'd be paying Crosby top dollar for the position.

You're a little bit uncertain.

Plus you're giving up to two first.

Now you got Hendricks and you still just had to give up the money.

And it was less than you would have to pay annually for Crosby and you keep your pick.

So like it's weird to me that they did this and went this far with it because you could

have just signed Hendricks.

But they, they must have really, I don't, I don't really know what the point was of taking

a look at Crosby unless they really were like, they just truly got cold feet on giving

up that much for a guy who wasn't going to play potentially.

Well, they didn't get that much cold feet because Jane Slater and Mike Irifullo are reporting

that yesterday when they saw Max Crosby's knee, they weren't thrilled.

Now that they weren't told anything about it, but they just weren't thrilled.

They asked the Raiders to mitigate the risk.

Would they come down on the asking price of two first round picks?

The Raiders said no, and in the end, the Ravens walked out of the deal.

So they were still trying to go through with it, but not for two first round picks, which

I'm like, if I'm John Spiteck, dude, you already agreed to two first round picks, we're

not changing things.

You knew about the knee ahead of time.

Yeah.

Well, I didn't sign the paper.

So I'm not going to.

That's fun.

Yeah, it's, it's crappy, but it's within the rules.

You know, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, but you know what, you know what, I don't

like it, but the medical is not concerning enough where you, we didn't want to go through

with the deal.

You still want to do it, but for lesser price.

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Dude, I go away for like three weeks and I come back.

There's only one guy I want to talk hoops with.

It's my net head.

It's Sam Amy.

He joins us from the athletic for his weekly conversation.

Sam, what's up, bro?

How you been, man?

What's up, Sam?

Adam Derek, I'm flatter.

So appreciate you, man.

Yeah.

Good to have you back, man.

Or good to be back and have you on with us.

So I want to open more general.

We'll get into some of the staff talk, but I was going to wait for my San Francisco softball

league game last night.

And I, a bunch of guys on my team were texting in the group chat.

I got peers before and some guy goes, you guys watching this lousy 80 point game.

I mean, from being out of fire, this lousy 80 point game and I laughed at my phone.

I was like, the NBA is weird, man.

I mean, you, you had a piece on this, but like people were kind of miffed by this.

It wasn't a fun thing to see the number of free throws.

What do you make of the 83 point performance that nobody's impressed with?

Yeah, I mean, unless you're a heat fan, it's funny.

I wrote, you know, something that honestly, you know, you tried to hit the mark talking

about the context of Kobe and the idea that I don't know if you guys had the audio on during

the game.

There was a bizarre moment when he hits 81, you got Jason Reed the long time he played

my playing out there, saying what I kind of wish would have happened, which he says,

oh, you know, bam's going to come out of the game and, and he's, you know, Kobe's one

of his favorite players.

He's going to be honored to share the record with Kobe.

And honestly, guys, my feeling at the time was like, all right, this was a very messy

pathway to 81.

It was about as aesthetically displeasing as you could imagine, but like that's kind of

a cool gesture.

Right.

That would be cool.

Honestly.

Yeah.

And unfortunately, it was a, I've learned today it was just a massive, you know, kind of

moment of confusion where the broadcast got it wrong and that he'd had no intention of

taking that out of the game.

And so then on the broadcast, he's kind of left to say, oh, never mind, he's still out

there.

It was just, so it was kind of a great cherry on top for a moment and experience that

I think for a lot of people was, was there was just something funky about it, whether it's

the sportsmanship component, which, you know, you, I've talked to people in the league

today that are surprised that the heat, you know, are extending the game by fouling and

doing all these shenanigans when you're up by 27 with 90 seconds left.

But you had the other side of the debate too with a lot of folks admittedly screaming

that people like me saying, you know, what are you talking about?

It's a record.

You go after it.

That's all there is to it.

So a pretty interesting debate for sure.

Well, yeah, it's like within the rules, but it's sort of like, it's sort of like throwing

a, you know, trying, they change the rules so you can't throw yourself by their own rebound

to get a triple double or you don't mean like to get stats like that, but it sort of feels

like it's an extrapolated version of that.

It sort of reminds me.

It's a little bit different of when, do you remember when Devon Booker scored 70 when

he was 20 years old?

Yes.

The game they lost to the Celtics by 10, right?

And like it was sort of the same thing like they were, they were fouling a bunch, but feeding

in the ball.

Mostly, it was just feeding him to kind of let him get to that number, but it was sort

of a pointless near end of the season game.

But everybody kind of left that one to go and scored 70, but you took 26 or 28 free throws

or whatever.

And it wasn't aesthetically pleasing.

I mean, it's, it's more impressive when we get these performances in things that matter

or in big time real time performances because they had to do it for the team to win.

Yeah.

And I mean, I'll meet you guys in the middle on that one because the fun part of today

or, you know, I guess I'm lighting and entertaining has been having people add in even more context

to this discussion and what I mean by that is we can't pretend that some of these other

all-time performances were clean cut in their own right, if that makes sense.

Like when Kobe went for 81, that was a terrible Raptor's team, you know, Chris Boss, Jalen

Rose, those guys were great, but they didn't have much else.

The Lakers weren't very good that year.

They, you know, it got a little bit close in the fourth quarter, but you can argue the

last few minutes that Kobe did keep pushing it to getting into 81.

Now the other one that obviously there's no video of and has become just lore and kind

of from the old history books is will and is 100.

The Philly was, you know, reportedly letting the next score as quickly as possible just

so they could get the ball back and will pass.

So like the point is that, you know, this stuff is never, you know, as perfect as we might

reflect on it to be, but with all that being said, I thought, you know, again, Bams was

super, it was impressive in its own right, but it was messy and it was just kind of uncomfortable

at the end.

And by the way, let's take down Cheryl Miller's 100 point game too while we're at it.

Let's knock that down.

That wasn't as impressive as we make it out.

But no, but Sam, all those, all those moments were celebrated.

Obviously, we'll chamberlains and Kobe's.

I mean, I remember that well, that was on a championship NFL weekend and that was the

biggest story in sports.

And yes, it was against a little E Raptor's team, but that was celebrated this yesterday,

like people are kind of down on it because it's against the wizards.

Like you look at email you, Doku and Victor Whitman, Yama, they're asked about it last

night and they don't give it a ton of praise.

So I understand what happened last night.

It did look messy.

But are you surprised just like the reaction from the league where it's not really being

celebrated?

Some what and I don't know where I land on is that a reaction to the heat and bam individually

in his reputation is or something there because I do think it's a little, it hits strangely

when you have somebody who's not considered an elite scorer doing something like that.

It's just incongruous, you know, that doesn't take away from it, but I think that was part

of the strangeness of it or is it something just society-wise where maybe we are guilty

of admit taking.

I mean, that's not, you know, I've had people call me today about what I wrote and some

saying thanks for writing it, some saying they don't agree with you, you know, some from

Miami certainly giving me a shout, but it's just something strange where it's very loud

about in terms of the reaction what he did and a lot of it is not positive.

You know, it's funny as I sort of think Sam and tell me if you agree, like it's more

to me, it's less about the way it happened and it was, I mean, people are calling it

slop on our text line and stuff like that.

It's less to me about that and more a reflection of kind of where the league is right now.

Like I mean, we had a situation last week where the bottom 10 teams of the league had to

combine 40 game losing streak and like the tank in situation and the injury situation

and Steve Kirsten talking about the number of games needs to be, need to be lowered.

So I mean, I, to me, this is more about you just don't get the quality product every

night.

So you allow this to happen and this being a story for the league has to be viewed as

a positive in some capacity because of the status of the league in terms of not getting

superstars and these performances nightly.

Yeah.

No, I mean, I hear you and all that.

I think, you know, this might be a stretch.

I told somebody earlier, I said, you know, maybe this is kind of what the NBA has wrought

when the tanking is such an issue where, where you have the idea that, I mean, again, the

stretch could be that you have both parties in this game to some extent differently, exploiting

the game for their own individual purposes that are outside of winning the game.

You know what I mean?

Like the point for both teams yesterday was not to win the game.

The Wizards were just doing what the Wizards are doing, trying to get a good draft pick.

They got embarrassed as a result, they deserve every bit of that, you know, but then on

a heat side, you know, when you are up 27 with 95 seconds left, then the point is to win

the game.

You've already won the game and you're now just chasing something for the sake of being

able to say you had it as a quick aside, I did find it interesting.

I had a coach at me today saying, man, they're lucky.

The Wizards are apparently mild-mannered, you know, guys as far as the staff, Ryan Keefe

is the head coach and his crew because there's some sentiment out there that like, you know,

if you would have done this against some other teams, you know, you might have had some smoke

and been caught.

Dr. Sam Amick on the Uma Guest line.

Yes.

As far as the Warriors right now, they got their own issues with losing the teams that

are perceived to be tanking in the Utah Jazz and the Chicago Bulls and Porzingus, you

know, is playing again, but a lot of mystery going on with his illness still.

Steph Curry's out for another 10 days.

That's five more games.

The expectation is he is going to come back towards the end of the regular season before

we get to the plan, but we'll see if the Warriors get to the plan and the injury is so,

you know, unpredictable as they put it with the runners knee.

So at what point, Sam, do you think it's going to be where the Warriors have to ask themselves?

Is it in their best interest to shut down Steph Curry for the rest of the year?

Um, I mean, I don't think we're there.

I think this feels more like, you know, we pulled the curtain back a little more to the

point where we now see that, I mean, what I would anticipate is that he gets a couple

games in and then it's rolling the dice in the plan.

That's just kind of what it is.

And I think we talked before about what would be the best practice on that front.

And you know that he would prefer to have five or six games, I would imagine, but that

knee is obviously continuing to give him a hard time.

But I think we're still not at the point where shutting it down is the way to go.

If only, I mean, college delusion college is kind of the confidence born out of what

they've accomplished in the past and just the idea that, you know, they're not going

to roll over.

I think there's still going to go for it to some degree, just whatever that looks like.

But it's unfortunate.

I mean, Porzinga's continuing to, you know, like you said, he's playing, but you don't

know how long, you know, nine and nine out of he's going to be there.

I noticed the other day I was doing some MVP research and this is just salt in the wound

that jumped out at me that one of the stats that a lot of people look at as you guys know

is player efficiency rating PDR and Jimmy Butler to my surprise was like top five in the NBA

and PDR.

And it's just kind of a reminder of what they lost with Jimmy and kind of what might have

been not to say they were on their path to another title, but I think they could have

been competitive.

So this is a very different calculus and we'll see if they can sneak in a little step

time at the end before the plan.

Sam, we've, I need to cover the NBA.

Have you seen what's happened in the NFL with this Max Cosby grade situation?

He's admitted so I know the trade was, was rescinded and then the set of my analysis was

a viral meme where somebody had like a WWE video where they had supposed to be Max and

Wiltshire where they like true.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's pretty accurate.

Yeah.

It's pretty accurate.

It's kind of, it's basically, basically what happened to the agree to to send two first

riders to the Raiders and again, I can't, it couldn't have been finalized like until

today.

Right.

That's what it would have become official.

They did the physical with Max Crosby and then yesterday the day before after the Raiders

have come to terms but not signed all these other players, they say we're not going to

sign Max Crosby, we're pulling back our offer because in our minds, he didn't, he didn't

pass the physical.

We didn't like what we saw in the physical.

Some people think it's shady.

Now they hear no there.

What I was going to ask is about it in the NBA even because teams go through this stuff.

When it comes to physicals, because we've been kind of joking like, oh, Max Crosby didn't

pass it, but Porzingus did.

It's up to the team.

Is it not?

At what level they're willing to take a hurt player?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes.

The first example that comes to mind is Mark Williams last year with Charlotte and Lakers.

That was a really interesting one that kind of touches all aspects of this discussion because

you had a lot of skepticism that the Lakers were telling the truth about their medical concerns

and a lot of people theorizing that basically once they saw the negative reaction publicly

to the trade that they had a kind of come to Jesus moment and suddenly didn't want

to be the trade.

And then you had the Lakers certainly insisting that they found things that they didn't previously

know about and they were concerned.

But yeah, if they wanted to look the other way and say it's fine, we're going to work

this out.

They could have done that.

So yes, it is up to them.

So what I was going to ask is like in the NFL, like the way that's just went down, it

looks bad and it seems shady and maybe there was some some shady stuff that had been behind

the scenes.

I don't know.

But the bigger point to me is they were allowed to do what they did.

They were within their window to say, we actually don't want to do this trade.

It just sort of screws over the Raiders.

I remember this kind of happened with the warriors and the blazers a couple of years

ago with Gary.

Would you be two?

Yeah.

They did disclose a specific injury or something like that.

And I said really what this comes down to for me is like, how do teams view that GM?

It's not your image across the league.

And maybe if they think you did something that was that was not above board or you kind

of lied about something that it goes, it goes south relationship wise.

How has that kind of stuff affected GM relationships in the NBA?

Is it really just individual based or does it or does it seep into the organization

where the warriors would say, we don't deal with this too many more just at the NBA level.

How does that that transpire?

I think it's probably a more predictable answer than you would think, meaning it's just

human nature, right?

Like if you're sore at somebody because of the way they handle it, and if that, you

know, those two front offices remain, I think those dynamics can certainly affect future

negotiations.

You know, I, I'm trying to think of examples, but back in the day when I covered the kings

as the beat writer in the bleak 2000, there was just kind of a hilarious thing where Jeff

Petri of the Kings would always do these trades with Atlanta, because I think it was

Bill King at the time was the GM, like, and they just had a good dynamic.

So like they, that was a positive example of two GMs who could really talk things through

and find what they thought was a win-win on trades.

So the inverse of that is, A, do you have the relationship in the B, if you have some sort

of dysfunction or history with, like, something like this, then, you know, that can definitely

impact, you know, the deals the do or don't go down.

This one is unique, though, because you have this connected tissue between the hawks

and the warriors with Auntie Salah having come from, you know, Golden State's front office.

And so I think, certainly on both sides, the respect remains there, and, you know, use

the word mysterious, and I don't know what other adjectives we want to put on it.

It just continues to confuse me in terms of the way it went down and kind of the surprise

on the warriors part that this is where it is, just because this is all kind of stuff

we knew.

So, you know, still a kind of a head scratcher for me, but that's kind of how I see the

personal dynamics.

All right.

Last one for you, Sam.

And it's probably the most important story going in the NBA right now.

Why did the NBA make the hawks cancel this magic city night?

I'm hot, dude.

I'm pissed.

I'm like, what up?

What's going on?

I mean, first of all, like, regardless of the outcome, magic city getting some mileage

out there.

And, well, everybody else may get mileage out of magic city for years, and it's the only

fair that they get to have.

You know, my, for posterity, I'm about to go check it out when I wrote to Atlanta.

It's going to be a real journalist, you know what I mean?

Exactly.

Yeah.

Indeed.

Yeah.

We might have an internal running gag going in our place.

Like, who's going to do the investigator journal?

Yeah.

Yeah.

The problem is all over.

To talk about stories or to get it.

Indeed.

Yeah.

We'll find out.

I, you know, it's, it's a, how do I answer that one?

I don't know.

There's a businessman.

You know what I mean?

He, when I don't know exactly this is not a formal voting type thing, but you got 30 teams.

Let's say 23 of them were uncomfortable with this partnership or this sponsorship or

this, you know, marketing idea, then the room is going to win over the one market.

You know, I don't know to what extent, you know, what kind of what voices played the

biggest part, the loudest one publicly, of course, was Luke Cornett from the Spurs,

you know, wrote a letter to the NBA indicating that he felt like it was disparaging to women

and disrespectful to women to elevate that sort of a company.

You know, so I think that's it.

I mean, Adam came from NBA, he came from, you know, the David Stern era where you're

growing the game and once he decides that the, you know, it's going to lead to something

in the red and not the black on the, you know, kind of the revenue business side.

I mean, he said not to say that there's no ethics in the league, but that is the driving force

behind the vast majority of decisions and I think likely with this one as well.

Yeah.

See, Dramon said he thought I was an art form.

He should have written a letter instead of done a podcast.

Maybe, maybe he would have got some somewhere on movement.

Sam, David, the voice you hear covers the NBA for the athletic Sam.

Always appreciate the time.

Good to talk to you, man.

We'll do it again soon.

Thanks Sam.

Appreciate you guys to be good.

Letterman, there you go.

Sam, maybe make sure you read him.

He had a great piece in the athletic about the band out of bio thing.

And I get where he's coming from.

I mean, yeah, I, the Kobe one to me is a bit different.

I mean, they were down in that game.

That's one of the most memorable days, like mornings of high school for me.

I think it was a sophomore.

I wasn't p the next morning and we were all like, dude, that was unbelievable.

No, it was crazy.

It led sports center.

I'll never forget that where it was the day this Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Debra Broncos,

the AMC championship game.

You wouldn't remember that.

Yeah.

But Kobe just went off and, you know, against Jalen Rose and that bad raptors team.

But you'll always remember that performance.

And yes, it was celebrated.

It was a better day than what BAM out of bio did yesterday.

Also, like, it's, it's kind of like how when a guy used to hit 500 home runs,

it was otherworldly.

Like nobody did that.

It was such a, it was a class of its own.

We got to a point where so many guys started doing it where it stopped being quiet.

They're stopped seeming like it was quite as big of an accomplishment.

Yeah.

Kobe scored 81.

We'd never seen anything like that.

Nobody saw a video of will.

Like I've, and now I've seen a guy lose going for 70, right?

I've seen James Harden manipulate scoring and statistics.

I just, I don't think they're all created equal.

I think you don't get 83 or 80 without and some kind of elite game.

Forty something free throws does make it like seven of 22 from three point range.

Those ridiculous, like will scored a hundred.

I don't care what you say about his team, like allowing him to get there.

They were letting the other team score because he was in the 80s or 90s, right?

Like will didn't have the three point line.

He didn't attempt the three.

He also had 25 rebounds in the game.

And I think he also at the time made the most free throws ever in a game.

I think he was like 26 to 28 or something.

Yeah.

And also, like Sam said, like no one on the wizard's got pissed off.

There's such a push over franchise where it's like,

well, he's going for greatness.

We might as well like let him do it.

Like again, that didn't happen.

But the fact that Eric Spolstra and I respect him as a coach,

but he told his players fouls.

We can extend the game and make sure he breaks the record.

Like what are we doing here?

Not enough about that.

I do agree with Sam.

Like had he stopped at 81 in honor of Kobe, that would have been kind of cool.

It would have given more meaning to the moment.

Yeah.

Instead of him after the game saying quote, it's will.

It's me.

It's called like honestly.

Bam, bam.

The bio is a great place.

Yeah, but it doesn't belong.

But honestly, we're not going to remember this.

I'm sorry.

Like we're not like Miami Heat fans will.

But I won't.

It's like when you look at the list of guys who have hit four homers in a game,

you're like, will he maize?

Yeah.

Yeah, four humbers in a game.

Then you're like Scooter, Jeanette.

What?

Scooter, Jeanette did it.

Let's take a quick break.

Adam Copeland, D-Pop, too.

Well, with the dirty work on a Wednesday afternoon

when we come on back more from the 49ers, how about this?

They acquired four third round draft picks just a little while ago.

Osa Digi-Zua, defensive tackle.

Five years in the league with the Cowboys started.

Most every one of his 84 games is a a plus runstopper.

And people are saying E and Rappaport and Shepard.

This is a big move for the 49ers.

Oh, yeah, it is defensive line.

Are they done on the D line after making a big trade like this in terms of

player acquisition outside of the draft?

We'll talk about that next.

And then Brian Peacock at 450.

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