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We're going to talk about Frank Nazar, and the fact that he is only as one goal since

October, we're going to talk about Patrick Kane, who tied Mike Modano as the all-time

leading scorer among us born players.

We're going to talk about his spot in history and who could potentially catch him down

the road.

But we're going to start with the Black Hawk's ailing power play, over 22 over their last

eight games, over five in the four three shootout loss to the wild last night.

It looks very, very broken, I got to give my thoughts on the post game show last night,

so Greg, I will give you the floor.

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I noticed the floor of the Xfinity Loft has a new carpet.

It does, and there's a coffee stain on it over there for Mario.

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That's pretty unbranded.

They haven't been over here in a while, I'm distracted.

Yeah, there's a lot of energy over there.

Yeah, I thought the power play was better last night, but it's a very low bar to jump

over there, or slightly step over.

It was better.

I like getting table back helps.

Definitely.

He's a very good distributor and just knows how to figure out where guys are going to be.

They moved Conor Bedard over to the left side, I don't know.

I think it doesn't matter where that guy is on the ice.

He's always moving anyway.

Yeah, I think that's overanalyzed where he is.

When he has the puck, he's dangerous.

It doesn't matter left, right, middle, behind in that, he can score from there, too.

My biggest frustration last night was that overtime power play.

That looked really good, and I like that Blasher went with four forwards, because why

the heck not?

Right.

Somebody in my Twitter mentioned it was like, that's coaching mouth practice, not have

a defenseman.

What?

Okay.

Sure.

The only reason they didn't score on that overtime power play is because Frank Nezar and

Conor Bedard didn't score.

Put the puck in the net.

They had, they had, it's easiest fix.

Both of those guys had multiple high danger chances on that power play, score goal.

Yes.

That's what you're there to do.

Did Blasher say six scoring chances on that power play?

They had six scoring chances, five shots on goal, five high danger scoring chances, score,

a damn goal.

You're there to score 91 and 98, put the puck in the net, and we wouldn't be having

this conversation right now.

Well, I think, you know, and we've seen from Conor since he's come back a little bit

of what we saw from him in his first two years, where he's trying to do everything, and

he's trying to make everything spectacular.

Sometimes you don't need to have the toe drag.

Sometimes you don't need to change the angle of the shot.

Sometimes you've got to use your generational shot and just put it on net and get a rebound.

Look at every goal minutes or the score last night.

Look at the first goal, the black hawk score last night.

Louis Crevier gets the puck at the blue line, doesn't think about it, doesn't settle it

down, doesn't look for pass, just says, boom, I'm putting it right back on net.

And what happened?

They were two guys, three guys in front of the net, and they scored goal.

Ryan Denado, his goal was a product of just shooting the puck.

It's there.

Shoot it.

I mean, how to fix the power play to get back to that besides scoring, but I mean, as

Blasio said before the game yesterday, it just hasn't been dangerous and hasn't been

given them any momentum because they've spent, they spent two-thirds of the time just

trying to get the puck in the zone.

And then when they finally get it set up, the first shoot has been out there for a minute

and 40.

Right.

And they've been skating back and forth the whole time.

So what exactly are you going to generate?

They have to figure out what out a way to get the puck in the zone cleaner and quicker.

So what I noticed last night and lately, but especially last night is they're doing this

sling shot, apparently they're going to do it.

I know most of the league does it fine, whatever.

But two things.

First of all, no one else is moving.

The other four players on the ice are standing at the blue line waiting for the puck

area to come.

Then I've noticed that the puck carrier gets over the line ever so slightly.

Not enough to pass it vertically or behind them.

It's as if they're immediately as soon as they enter the zone they are looking for that

pass.

Once you enter, take a couple extra strides.

Let your four teammates standing on a blue line start into the zone two and you're going

to get more options to pass because once you've crossed that threshold, theoretically you

should be able to keep going for at least a couple more strides.

It's as soon as they enter the zone, they're trying to get the puck off their stick.

And look, now and again, we will see them say, okay, there's nothing here.

I'm going to dump it.

But when the other four guys are standing still, you have to go from zero to puck to retrieve

it.

And that's a really low success rate, too.

Well, Ashley said earlier this week that the confidence on the power play is suffering.

That is evidence.

And confident is confidence is 50% of the battle when it comes to special teams.

Yeah.

When it's going great, it's going great, but why it's not like just look at the penalty

kill right now.

They're playing confident.

And you know, the what, the seven games ahead of before this eight game stretch, the black

hearts were nine of 21 on the power play.

They had both units cashing in.

That was without counterpart in Frank Nazar.

How was it worse when you've got better players?

I don't know.

It's mind boggling.

I mean, I do know because those players are turning the puck over to the blue line instead

of just simply getting it in here's an idea.

Maybe don't have counterpart dart, bring the puck in the zone because that's what they're

expecting.

Well, yeah, I mean, yes, that's have table bringing the puck in.

He's a better passer.

I also feel like, and I need to go back and look at some of the old games.

But with those guys out, I felt like they were dumping it in more frequently.

And the other thing too is dumping it in sooner because last time I noticed at the times when

the puck was dumped in, they were within two or three strides of the offensive blue line.

If you dump it in from right over the center ice line, you probably have more guys that

are moving towards the blue line in that spot so they can start chasing immediately.

I just think the timing of it, whether it's dumping, whether it's a carry-in, whatever

it might be, the timing is way off.

Yes.

And the key to a good dump is the perfect timing.

Yeah.

If it's too early or too late, you could be if you're too late on the dump.

It is bad news.

Way bad news.

Really bad.

Joe Kwenville.

As you say, we need better dumps.

Absolutely.

Those are words that they'll let us.

That is something we'll invite.

So as we get older and more fiber in the water bottles, no, but I mean, and to me, when

the timing is completely jacked, again, that indicates that the unit is not feeling great

about it.

Here's something else I'd like to see change a little bit.

Can we stop standing at the side of the net and maybe stand at the front of the net?

Yeah.

I know Tyler Bertuzzi has a lot of goals from that standing at the side of net and

banging it off.

Yeah, the fact word.

One was the last time that's happened.

Take the goalie's eyes away.

The simplest power play success to me is shots from the point with traffic in front.

Yeah.

Puck might not get through the first off that initial shot, but you're going to cause

chaos.

You're going to have skates and sticks and bodies in the way the puck likes the bounce.

The goalie can't find it.

It's all about taking away the goalie's eyes and causing chaos.

If you're not moving around the zone enough and you're not, and the penalty kill can just

pretty much be stationary, you're dead.

You're dead.

You have to get the pk moving and you have to take away the goalie's eyes.

The best way to do that is get guys in front of the net because that gets the pk to collapse.

That causes a ton of traffic.

And then who knows what happens.

I've also noticed lately too that Bertuzzi when he's not on the side is along the boards

a lot.

Like I don't know.

I don't know.

I think they're trying everything.

They're trying to see what they can do to work.

But as we talk about it five on five and we talk about on the power play and the most

recent stretch of success the Hawks have had was just simplifying it and doing and getting

to the basic.

Take this shot.

And then on the power play the basics are put the puck on that and screenically.

Just go watch what the Minnesota wild do.

And tomorrow they're playing at Pittsburgh Penguins who have the number three power play

in the NHL.

Guess what though?

They've got some really skilled players on that team.

And I guarantee you when we watch the penguins power play tomorrow, it's not going to look

like Harlem Globetrotters on ice.

It's going to be simple execution pucks and you know it's going to be an ass in our

Harvard Slaughter Blues face.

Yeah.

I mean, that's how you score on the power play.

Hockey is so simple sometimes.

It really is.

It's such a simple sport.

Yes.

There's a lot of little things.

There's a lot of complexities.

But the bottom line it's simple.

Shoot puck.

Sometimes puck goes in.

That's it.

They need to shoot more.

But in order to shoot more, you actually have to have the puck in his own.

So it starts with the zone entries.

You're out of way to get the puck in.

If you've got to be dumping chase, you should win every one of those because I'm no math

major, but five is more than four should be able to get a puck.

Just an idea.

Once you have the puck, take what's given to you.

Don't try 9,000 across ice passes.

Try to set up Pratuzia on that play four times and it doesn't work.

Take what's given to you.

If you're a Tyler Pratuzia and you have the puck at the goal line, 15 feet away from

them.

Pass.

Take it to that.

They're giving it to you.

Yeah.

They're giving it to you.

And they get there.

And I saw it.

Folino actually did it last night.

Folino had an opportunity on the right wing side, so left of the gold tender.

Just had an opportunity to be like, all right, you're going to give me all this time and

space.

I'm going to go take it.

And I wonder if there is a, if there's a personnel shake up, you would consider on

these power plays.

I know left should always move to the second unit.

And I know he's gotten a lot of derision for why the power plays not working.

Look, art and left should have his impact on the power play is he drops the puck to

the eventual zone entry player and then works the point.

I think what he's done on the point very well is kept it in his own.

I think the biggest reason we saw that switch and that it was just the third period power

play.

There was what about six minutes to go in the game.

Yeah.

Hawks were up one.

I think that switch was made just to take away, decrease the percentage of a shorthanded

odd man rush to tie the game.

Okay.

Because Grizzlyck is not as aggressive, a little more responsible back there.

I don't think that was, hey, already you're demoted, you're not playing on this unit anymore.

It was more of situational where we can't give up a two on one here in this situation.

We're only up a goal.

Yes, we want to score here, but we also have to be responsible.

Yeah.

I get that.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Like Grizzlyck has had a lot of success on the power play too.

I wouldn't mind giving my guys a look just because I feel like he is playing so well lately

and his instincts are seem to always be correct, right?

Like his decision making is mature beyond its years.

If there's a shot to be had, I'll take it.

If there's a pass me made, he'll make it.

I just think that the way his brain works, I wouldn't mind.

Maybe you just see how it works, try, have it in a practice, and then give it a shot

on one of your power plays during the game.

Just to see how it looks.

Yeah, I think that could work.

He's really good at using his feet to create lanes on the ice.

That could work.

You've got other options.

I mean, I know he plays a lot of PK, so you want to save him for that.

You know, if you got 30 seconds left in a power play, I wouldn't have any issue of

putting Louis Krevie out there.

There's a guy who's going to shoot the puck from the point.

You want to talk about keeping it simple?

That's what Louis Krevie is doing all year.

Yeah, 100%.

You want a guy that gets the puck at the point and just gets it to the net.

That's what Louis Krevie is going to do because he's done that all season long.

He did that last night to create the first goal.

There are options, but I get the lepshin off.

He is your most dynamic offensive defenseman.

That's the role that is going to be his for his career.

So do it now, sure.

I know Sam Ranzell is going to look to in the future to be a power play quarterback.

Kevin Kurchinsky was drafted to be that guy.

Who knows?

Who knows what's ever going to happen?

So there are plenty of options for the future, but right now, those are some options.

But this team just feels like when they get their next goal on the power play, they'll

go on another one of those streaks where all of a sudden the sticks are getting gripped

a little less tight.

Yeah, and just takes one.

The extra pass is good, like they just go, okay, that's how you do it.

They breathe a little easier.

There's not as much pressure.

They know they're old for 22 in the last eight games.

They don't need us talking about it to know what they're asking about it.

They know huge part of why it looks broken is they're like, well, for 21, for 22, how

can we not?

Seven games.

Eight games.

Exactly.

And you saw, I mean, he had that shot really well placed right through traffic, trying

to pick the top left corner.

And just in scoring, you saw the frustration on him of just, honestly, I think he, was

that one a stick broke?

I think that was the same play.

Goes down to his knees and just, like, looks to the sky, like, what do I have to do to

score?

He said, he said about what was the word, Chloe?

He said, don't do it.

He said fudge.

He was doing his Ralphie impression, because his mom was watching.

So he couldn't say the F dash, dash, dash word, yes, I don't know.

I think you're right.

I think when they get one, it'll, it'll come in, it'll flood in.

I like what we saw from Richard last night, though, eight shots on goal, 11 shot attempts,

more of that.

We talked about it.

Is when the season began, those are the kind of numbers you want to see from him.

Every game, every game, shots on goal, shot attempts, double digits, let's go.

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If you missed it last night on the Red Wing's game against the LA Kings.

Patrick Kane got an assist, tying Mike Madonna, 1,374 points that is tied for a career

high among U.S. born players.

We can do a lot of comparing, we can do a lot of projecting, but we should take a moment

to talk about the unbelievable career of Patrick Kane, and I will admit that I am somewhat stunned

that he is still as effective as he is.

I did not think that his third year in Detroit here, he's got 31 points in 39 games.

He looks really, really good, and congrats to him, and it is a big record to break.

I have never liked Mike Madonna because he leveraged the Black Hawks, and he played for

the Norstars, primarily, but leveraged the Black Hawks in free agency, very, very blatantly,

the Hawks thought they were going to get him, and then he was like, nope, thank you, bye.

So I have never liked him because of that, don't blame him, but it is what it is.

It's cool that he can do it, he's going to break the record any moment now, but just an insane

career for a guy who just seems, especially now the hip is fixed.

You should get old Gizzo 385, so the prop does to Madonna and Elevator, a buddy of his

did, yeah.

Love that guy, thank you.

I mean, so that means your favorite Mike Madonna highlight of his career is when the

structure drops him on the stretcher since he's fine, yes, I never wrote for anyone to

have a bad injury, but you can Google that.

That was a wonderful disaster by the Dallas stars.

Mike Madonna gets structured off the ice, and then they bring him back into the ambulance

zone, and they drop him on the stretcher, they just drop him on a ground, it's available,

it's out there.

It would have been better if it was the Homer Simpson off the cliff, back into the Springfield

Gorge.

Yes.

What a better.

No, like, obviously, you know, this is a big deal for Patrick Kane and for the NHL.

Yeah, I mean, I'm, I wouldn't say I'm surprised that he is as effective as he, he still

is because he is just that player.

He has, he has that, that ultimate competitiveness that, you know, all the all-time grades have,

you have to have that.

If you're going to be one of the best to ever do it in your sport or profession, whatever

it is you're doing, I'm just more surprised about how his body recovered from that surgery.

Because we, you know, not too many players have ever had that hip, was it hip resurfacing?

Yeah.

Just horrible sounding.

That sounds awful.

Yes.

So don't do it if you don't have to.

But just, you know, when he went, I wonder what that surgery, they listed all the players

that had it and nobody ever really was able to even come close to being their former self.

So I'm just more impressed the fact that he was able to recover to get to the point where

he is.

And yeah, he's not what he was when he was here.

No, no, for some.

You know, he's slowing down, but that's just, that happens when you're, you know, in your

late 30s and you've played over 1,300 games, but, you know, it was a long time coming.

We kind of knew this.

He was on pace to do this for a while, so good for him.

Wish he wasn't doing it in a Red Wing's uniform, but, you know, they have a tendency to do

that.

Yeah, I mean, Mike Modano set the record in a Red Wing's uniform.

I mean, they, they like to get those, them and the Rangers love to get the guys at the

end of the career.

Black Hawks have kind of gone away from that.

They did with Peter Bondra.

Yeah, scored his 500th goal as a hawk.

Right.

And one of his what four goals with the black hole, like a sign them with 498 career goals.

And then, yeah, I mean, but the, the, the, the Red wings have done that a lot recently.

They did it with Modano.

They did it with.

Remember, do you remember?

I'm sorry.

He had five goals on the black Hawks.

I show some, put some respect on that man.

I forgot the fifth one.

I remember the first four, but, you know, do you remember the Danny Elpherson Red wings

era?

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, they've done it a lot, but this is a little different than that.

Those guys were one year, I want to get a cup, Jason, where, yeah, where Kane's not

per se chasing a cup because, you know, the Red wings this year, they're looking like

they're going to make the playoffs.

They look good.

I still don't trust their goal tending down the stretch and there's a lot of really good

teams in the east right there.

It's going to get interesting, but they've got a really good shot again back to the playoffs

this year.

So, yeah, as I said, I just wish he was doing it in any other, well, not any other

uniform.

Not the Rangers, you know?

Not the Rangers, you know?

Most, most uniforms besides the Red wings one, but, you know, no matter how many points

he faced, sorry, it's not up on me.

It didn't mean to scare you.

No matter how many points he gets, all the important ones were done here in Chicago, so

that's all that matters.

Yeah, I mean, and there's no team bust in the Hall of Fame.

It's just your picture, but everyone's going to remember him as a black clock.

He's a black clock.

His number is going to be retired.

And the way he still talks about the team and, you know, checks in, he's, he's, he's,

he's still, his heart is still here in Chicago.

Well, there was that video.

It was like him and to bring kids social media video, and he's like, yeah, we're, we're

Red wings now or something like we've moved past Chicago and you can see he said it so

half-artedly.

He's like, I guess it is also fitting that he gets the, the game, the record tying

assist on an Alex to Brinket goal because it's very fitting.

There's a lot they're going to trade for Pinaran.

I tried to, I tried to look up how many of his assists came onto Brinket goals, but I

just couldn't find like an easy answer to it.

But I'm sure it's quite a bit.

He's got 874 career assists.

I would imagine a lot of those are on to Brinket, at least 15 percent.

Yeah.

That's probably right.

So one, two, three, so they played what, five years together, two in Chicago, was it

only two in Chicago?

What was Brinket's work year?

I think it had four years in Chicago, four or five because he had two 40 goal seasons

here.

Geez.

Time flies by, man.

It's really upsetting.

The Brinket's first year in Chicago was, well, Jesus, he played five years here, five

or six.

So yeah, one, two, three, four, five, six years.

And now, so nine years with Kane.

Right.

So I cannot handle these.

He's just a Brinket as an old guy now.

He's been around for, he's not a young kid anymore.

Yeah.

He's been around for a long time.

Oh my God.

That is upsetting.

What, 2017 was his first year?

Yeah.

He's 28.

It's, it's, he's a kid, but hockey age, he's, uh, so this prime, he is, he's, he's, he's

at the peak.

It's only downhill from here.

That's right.

We have a, uh, super chat from Wendy City, hockey, which is going to nicely kick off our

next topic.

He says, Petra Kane is easily the greatest American born hockey player of all time.

Also we know what could fix the power play, bring home the greatest American born hockey

player.

I got young day, oh God, with this one.

Very well done.

Thank you for the dollar.

We are going to have that discussion next.

Is he indeed the greatest American born player ever and who could potentially, uh, be on

his heels?

We have one more super chat.

I want to get to you before the break too.

So I don't forget because I've had bad luck at forgetting lately, but Sir Jack 528

says for 10 bucks, whenever crevier is on the ice, I can at least count that he'll rip

a heater right to the net.

So having him could generate second chance opportunities, which are desperately needed

in my opinion.

Yes.

Give him the heater, Louie, and I'm going to go hot take put him in a dust and buff

one role.

Put Louie crevier right in front of the goalie.

Hey, we sell us a dental chart and do it.

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100 percent.

All right, break zone more on Petra Kane and his, uh, American born superiority coming

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We have a couple answers to the question.

I found a story here written in November of 2025 that Kane has assisted on 92 of Alex

to bring kids goals.

Now that was in November.

So since then, so it's probably say about 100 because you got to remember Kane missed

a bunch of games in December.

So yeah, it's probably between 95 and 100.

So yeah, it's a good percent.

It's over 10% of his all time career.

That's crazy.

That's, I said about 15% so it's close to that.

That's cool.

It's someone to share.

Imagine that that's the most of any player like in terms of percentage.

Yeah.

As far as numbers, not enough time with Panarin.

No, two years.

And then in the dynasty kind of he had a lot of different line mates.

Yeah, I don't like, I can't imagine he assisted on 92 Jonathan Dave's goals.

I wouldn't think so.

Yeah, that should be, that should be fun.

All right, let's get into this conversation.

I know this is going to sound a little bit like I'm trying to cope, copium is the kids

call it.

I still believe that Chris Chalios is the greatest American born player of all time.

And when you look at the longevity of the career, the effectiveness deep into his career.

Everything he's won, everything he's accomplished, like Chris Chalios to me was one of the defense

when I kind of reinvented the game.

Like he kind of became a prototype for what a modern era NHL defenseman should be.

And I think people said that about talking Keith, people are saying it about Kayle McCarrer.

Obviously, Bobby Orr was the really the guy who changed the way NHL defenseman play.

That was the biggest like, oh my God, it's totally different now.

But Chalios is one of those guys.

And for me, with some time to like zoom out on it, reflect on it.

I still have Chalios is the greatest American born player ever.

You got to remember, he finished, where is this?

Sixth in the Norris voting when he was 38.

He won a Norris at 35 or 34 rather like he was a dynamite player for a really long time.

And 1,651 games, 948 points in such a defenseman is nothing to sneeze at,

especially considering he spent 2,891 games in the Pelley box.

Or a minutes in the belly box.

He leads the most games played by an American born player, regular season.

Most games played in the playoffs by an American born player, 266.

Most assists by an American born player in the playoffs with 113.

That's wild.

By the way, for the record, Patrick Kane has 85 assists in the playoffs.

So he's got almost 30 more.

So that's what you go to Detroit.

Exactly.

They don't get to pad those playoff numbers.

He will this year.

Chris Chalios spent 48.18 games in the Pelley box based on Pelley.

That's why he was able to play so long.

It's half a season.

Half a season.

Yeah.

To me, he's more games than that your demos played in the last three years combined.

It's pretty amazing though that both these guys spent the best years of their career as Hawks.

And the tail end of the year is Redwings.

By the way, this always bothers me.

Chris Chalios spent 10 years in Detroit, only 9 in Chicago.

More games played in Chicago, but more seasons in Detroit.

In his 26 year season, 10 with Detroit, 9 with Chicago, 7 in Montreal, and one with

the Atlanta Thrasher.

Your Atlanta Thrasher.

That's exactly.

Yeah, I mean, I got to remember when the Hawks got Chris Chalios.

It wasn't like he was this young kid.

He was an established Norris Stanley Calderon.

Norris Trophy veteran at that point, seven years.

So they got him in his prime.

And who knew that his prime was going to last 18 years?

He was 29 when he joined the Hawks.

Yeah.

And hadn't even played as best hockey yet.

Yeah.

Just the way that he played, and he played the same way his entire career.

To play as long as he did at such a high level, the physicality he played with.

But he also, you know, was a really good skater, you know, good offensive player too.

So, you know, Patrick Kane is the greatest American born forward of all time.

Oh, yeah, Chris Chalios is the greatest American born player.

And there's a lot to choose from.

You know, there's a lot of great names.

You know, when you start talking about American born players,

you know, Brian Leach is, I think, is in the conversation.

A guy to me that I think is the most underrated American born player of all time is Joe Mullen,

who 500 goalscorer that nobody ever talks about.

So lots of great players.

And the way that USA hockey has grown over the past decade,

how long is it going to be that, okay, say we settle on it.

Patrick Kane is the greatest American born player of all time.

How long does he get to hold that title?

I mean, I don't know.

I mean, there's, there's Austin Matthews is if he continues the way he's playing.

Austin Matthews will be the greatest American goal scorer of all time.

I agree with that.

To be honest, maybe the leading scorer, but I'm not ready to call him,

but even if he does break the Kane scoring record, he's got to win, he's got to win the playoffs.

I got it. Yes, I got to see like part of the, part of the reason on the shelf.

Chalios has got such a, is Helen Hirogard.

He won Stanley Cups.

Patrick Kane, it's got three.

Brett, I know, Brett Hall is technically not an American born, but he's, he's an American citizen.

For the record, Brett Hall, who played for US teams,

is the all time leading US scorer with, uh, he was in 1391.

He was born in Canada, but he was born in Canada.

So US born is, but you get, you know, there are, those are, those guys, one cups.

Mike Medano, he won a cup.

Yep, um, like, so I think for Austin Matthews to, to really get in that conversation,

sure he's going to finish with more goals in Patrick Kane.

There's no doubt about that.

I mean, he's only like 28 behind him now.

Yeah.

But he's got to win in the playoffs.

He's got to get out of the second round and he's not going to do that until he starts playing for

another team, unfortunately.

And the fact that he's playing his whole career in Toronto,

where, hey, Chellios, Black Hawks, Red Wings, American team,

yeah, you know, Red Wings, Black Hawks, American team.

They'll same thing with Patrick Kane.

When you go and be the face of a franchise in, in Canada,

people forget you're an American born player.

Yeah.

Well, the other thing too is you could argue.

Oh, I'm going to argue that awesome Matthews is already the greatest made belief.

Well, I would say he has to win a cup of not many of them have.

Yeah, I mean, not since color TV was intended.

Yeah, I mean, he's definitely in that conversation.

You know, Matt Sandin to me until, until, uh,

awesome Matthew showed up.

Matt Sandin was the best made belief I ever saw play.

You know, you can go back and talk about your Tim Hortons and Tim Hortons.

George Armstrong's those guys, but they played in a different era that they played in

an era where the Leafs actually won.

So it wasn't really, really, really long time ago.

But, you know, um, I guess it's probably premature to call on the best leaf ever,

but he is certainly on that trajectory.

Yeah, he's going to have all their scoring records.

That doesn't necessarily make you the best player, but he's going to be, you know, he,

he will have his, uh, statue placed on that really cool legends role statue that they

have in Toronto.

That is cool.

That's the way to do it.

With the bench and you just added a player.

Yeah, they, uh, you know, he'll get there at some point if they don't run him out of time.

Even if they run him out of town, he'll still get it at some point.

I mean, they got to, someone's got to be next, but could be, could be middle finger boy.

Oh, we talked about this last night.

The biggest controversy in the NHL this season is that William Newlander gave the bird to the

camera.

Yeah, that's really cares.

I don't care.

That is my instinct when a camera is pointing at me to give it the finger.

Yeah, it's just like, I don't know.

It's fun.

Yeah, see?

Look, I just did it.

Yeah, that's it.

You're fired.

Uh, yeah, I mean, it's rehiring me first.

Denfire me.

I hate that story, but the Toronto has to find somebody.

There's got to be somebody to run out of town.

They, you mean it wasn't Mitch Marner?

They won't find the Mitch Marner.

Another, another having the worst season they've had.

And, and since they tank to get awesome, crazy.

When you get rid of a really great two-way forward,

and then try your team doesn't try to replace them with four fourth liners?

Yeah, weird.

It's crazy.

Crazy.

Now, get William Newlander out of there now.

That's why, uh, that's why Craig Brewery's getting hit in the head with an iron.

That is so gross.

It's getting worse every day.

I don't need to look at that anymore.

Where, uh, where something, dude?

Like, yeah, like, yeah.

Get like a do rag.

Yeah, that was a cool and Craig Brewery.

Sure.

Yeah, I'd be down for that.

Is there anyone else besides Matthews?

I mean, is, I call it not super far behind Matthews in terms of Americans?

I don't know if you're going to, if he'd get up in the Patrick Kane,

you know, atmosphere.

Yeah.

So active score wise, uh, I guess Blake Wheeler is no longer active.

He had 943 and 1172.

I just think the greatest American born player.

Maybe 20 years or not.

Probably is still like five years away from even being in the NHL.

Because there's so much good young talent.

Um, you know, you look at guys like Logan Cooley,

world's best prospect.

Well, you know, he's, he's off to a really good start.

You know, uh, there's so many of these guys that are in their first, second, third years

or just getting drafted that you could see 15 years from now being Hall of Famers.

Um, there's so much good young talent coming.

Um, but again, to be in the conversation as being one of the all time greats,

you got to have to win.

You can score all the goals you want, but you have to win.

I mean,

you talk about guys like you never hear about Charles Barkley being one of the greatest

basketball players ever played, even though he should be in the conversation.

But he never won.

Yeah.

Damirino, one of the greatest quarterbacks ever saw.

He's never won a Super Bowl.

Most famous for not winning a Super Bowl.

Right.

He was there in his what second year loss and never got back.

Yeah.

Um, you got to win.

Unfortunately, I mean, people still talk about counter,

make David that way.

Well, I mean, he's never want to cup.

Right.

And he's the greatest player I've ever seen in my own, uh, with my own eyes,

you know, in their prime.

Like, I'm not saying he's better than Gretzky, but I didn't get to see

prime players.

No, I saw him play in person towards a tail end of his career.

Like, Rangers, Blues, Gretzky, Mario, the Mew has an argument for me.

Yeah.

But in terms of like, oh, my God.

Right.

It's counter, my David.

Yeah.

And he's going to be when he retires, he's going to be on the Mount Rushmore

of NHL players.

But if he doesn't win a Stanley Cup, that's going to be the first argument

against him.

Well, he didn't win.

If he only wins one, that's going to be an argument against him.

Because imagine if Ovech can didn't get that cup in 2018.

The conversation would certainly be different if he hadn't won one.

You Chloe, you're shaking your head.

Are you going to make a case for Nathan McKinnon?

Is that you're trying to do?

I was, but now I don't want to.

Yeah, I'd be a bad thought by you.

Yeah.

Why would that be a bad thought?

He's not a matter of my David is better.

Yes, he is.

He's great.

Nathan McKinnon is great.

He's great.

It's not.

I love Nathan McKinnon.

But I like Conor, Rick David.

McDavid is better.

All right.

Everyone has been in.

That's a good, avalanche corner for the day.

Hey, somebody commented something about Boulder, Colorado earlier.

So yeah, okay, there you go.

You got somebody to pay attention to.

People do really care about Colorado on the show.

A person cares.

Yes, a person.

And that person is running the show.

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Please to welcome the CEO of big brothers, big sisters of Metropolitan Chicago,

Jeremy Foster to the show.

Jeremy.

Thanks for having me with us again.

It's great to see you.

It is National Mentoring Month.

And I know a huge part of what makes the wheels turn at big brothers, big sisters,

is that mentoring?

Tell people how they can get involved.

What this month means to you, the floor is yours, my friend.

Well, thank you for having me again and giving us the opportunity to inspire people to join us.

But National Mentoring Month has been around since I've been at big

brothers, big sisters, 19 years, but it's been around longer than that happens every January.

And it does two things.

It sheds a light on the power and impact of mentoring,

but then also provides an opportunity to learn more about people becoming,

in our case, a big brother, a big sister.

And that's what today is about as an extension of letting people know the opportunity they have

to not only transform their young person's life, their community, but their own through mentorship.

Well, I saw some very eye-opening stats looking at your website.

Mentored youth are 46% less likely to begin using illegal drugs,

27% less likely to begin using alcohol, 54% less likely to be arrested,

and 52% less likely to skip school.

What do you think it is about mentoring specifically that,

why does that directly correlate to those statistics in your mind?

Kids need positive caring adults in their life, right?

In addition to their family.

We've all, I bet you, we all have stories outside of our families of somebody,

or maybe many people that have somehow some way shaped who we are and where we're at today.

So it's a natural phenomenon, but for a lot of our kids that natural ecosystem

is fractured for a variety of reasons.

But first, it's just how we nurture and raise children.

And it, you know, I know that it takes a village, gets used all the time,

but there's a reason it gets used because it's true.

And the solution to so many of our issues, especially facing young people,

is that consistent, positive caring influence of somebody who has your back.

And it's even more powerful when it's not a family member because this, you know, remember,

you don't have to show up.

But the fact that you keep showing up, and then you're having fun with that young person,

and you do it over and over again, that's what really transforms a young person's life.

Well, I know in a past life, I worked in non-profit.

I worked for the greatest Chicago Food Depository.

So that was a really eye-opening experience of realizing that, you know,

unfortunately, like, people get born in the bad situations.

Yep.

And it's very hard to overcome those without outside influences.

And so how much is that a factor with this, where it's, you know, for whatever reason,

there isn't that mentorship.

And do you guys kind of identify, like, those communities or those areas that need that help more?

Yeah, 100%.

We serve, you know, we're metropolitan Chicago.

So that's four counties, Lake Cook, DuPage, Illinois, and Lake County, Northwest, Indiana.

So that's our footprint, but it's through community partnerships, being in schools.

And frankly, families work them out.

You know, we're on some of the high raises where, you know, they'll know,

oh, your son, your daughter, it's a big, well, it's a big sister.

And then they sign up through that.

So, you know, we've got a system of support of how we connect to children and families.

And a lot of it is it's based on need.

We know these areas and pockets of need throughout our service area.

But the reality is every child, regardless of any situation that you're in,

benefits from mentoring, you do benefit more, and the cost to not doing it is higher.

In areas where there's been, you know, disenfranchisement or

that ecosystem is fractured, like we mentioned before, and that's where we kind of fit in.

But yeah, it works, right?

The consistency of that positive person just showing up, having fun, building confidence in the

and the young person, it works time and time again.

But I like what you said, need is everywhere, right?

It's in every zip code that we serve, and it's our responsibility

to answer that call and come on with partners,

like CHGO to invite people into help us.

We know you had the field day a while back, and our buddy, Mark Carman,

participated in that. And I know he really, really enjoyed that,

took a lot away from it. You got some pictures here.

If you're watching us on YouTube of

Car Mentoring, some kids on how to make just terrible sports takes.

This doesn't look like Carman over and over again.

Oh, it's Braggs, it is Braggs, yeah.

So it better takes from Braggs.

Still not perfect, but better than Carman, we'll say that.

I actually had the opportunity, I had heard about Big Brother's Big Sisters for my whole life.

My family and I, we moved out to Homewood in 2017, and became fast friends with a buddy of mine

named Kyle Miller. He is six years older to me, so he's in his 50s, and I met his friend, Rick,

who is a grown man in his 40s, right? And I caught you guys meet, he's like, oh, this is my Big Brother.

And I was like, oh, okay, maybe it's an adoption or whatever.

And then Kyle explained to me, no, I was in Big Brother's Big Sisters, and we are still to this day,

connected at the hip, it's unbelievable. And we get to see Rick come by all the time and hang out

with the family, hang out with the friends, and he has become part of our friend group.

I think maybe the vision of Big Brother's Big Sisters is I'm going to be with these kids,

and then my service time is over, and then move on, right? These connections are made for a lifetime.

They are made for a lifetime. We don't put that on a volunteer, though. We'll be fair with these,

but this, what you just described, and first thank you for sharing that, it happens all the time.

It starts out as friendship, but it just shows you the richness and the depth of these relationships,

how they take hold, and it turns into family. And once it turns into family, right? Your family

is your family for life. And so it kind of does turn into that, and we see these examples

all the time of the adult relation into adulthood that they're still in each other's lives,

and that is the beauty of this organization and this mission is it's one caring human being

connected to another, and a deeply personal, meaningful, but very fun way. We get to talk

sports, we get to go out and participate in sports, you showed the clip of CHGO coming out,

and playing flag football with the kids on arguably, I think, the hottest day of the year,

like 110 degrees, but you showed up. And that meant a lot to kids there, because we had kids who

were matched there, but we also had kids on our wait list. And so thank you guys for showing up,

and the car'm signed up to be a big brother, and there was a picture of him with his little

botanic gardens, which I absolutely love that you guys really take this partnership seriously,

so I thank you. I really do. Well, it's kind of heartbreaking to hear that there's a waiting list,

and I know people listening might be thinking like, well, maybe I could do that, but it's a little

bit intimidating and, you know, I don't know, am I the right fit, am I the right person?

Can you kind of call those fears in people? Because I know it probably feels overwhelming at first,

I'm sure you get that a lot. I mean, been around 120 years, we have all this data and information

back from people of the, what are the barriers? So number one is the concept of time. I don't have

enough time. And number two is worthiness, what you just touched on. I can't really be somebody's

big, which isn't true at all. Yeah. Are you a good person, do you care? Do you have a positive

attitude? And can you show up consistently? So, and we don't shy away from the time, it is a

commitment, but first off, anything important and worth anything in life is a commitment, right?

Think about the things that are important to you. Sure. You spend time on them, but it's not

this overwhelming commitment. A couple of times a month, a few hours each time doing things,

frankly, you would do, right? Watch sports, go to a movie, right? Those types of things,

you're just doing it with a young person, which actually enhances that experience, by the way.

It's such a great cause and we had a couple of months ago, we raised some money for big brothers,

big sisters, and we better audience that if we reached our goal that we would do smelling

salts on the show, do we have the video of us doing smelling salt? He's trying to find it.

I love it. Well, it's funny about it is Mario, who's not here with us today, bought the smelling

salts and did not take the cotton out. So, we were trying to like, well, it's not that bad,

you know, it's okay, but not as bad as I imagined. And then one of our loyals,

Whitney City hockey pointed out, you got to take the cotton out and then it was very different.

Yeah, it was intense. Our producer, Chloe, even though the instructions say,

keep it about six feet from your face, Chloe basically put her nose in the bottle,

and I think her head turned inside out. I think Sarah is still doing smelling salt.

She got, she got fired up like she did. You're a show of your world and I appreciate it.

Yes, exactly. It was great, but our listeners, I think, beyond CHGO, these, you know,

these walls in here, I think that our audience is also, as soon as this, you know,

partnership was announced, they jumped at the opportunity to help because,

look, maybe there are some people out there that don't have the time, those people feel free

to donate money. 100% and let people know how they can do so and how if they are interested

in becoming a mentor. It takes, it does. It takes your generosity of both time and treasure,

right? And for those that can't volunteer, you certainly have that opportunity.

That's my promise to you. Anybody listening and anybody else that's come across this is,

we put all your generosity directly to work. Last year, we made the fourth largest number

of new matches. 804 kids off our waiting list. We matched last year. We are on pace to do that

again this year, and we can't do that without two. People stepping up to be big, but also providing

the fuel, which is your generosity, to help us do that. Help us have a team that's out there

inspiring people, helping us match, you know, do background checks, you know, in supporting those

matches. We're going to, we're going to be, we're going to hit 2000, be over 2000 this year.

That's great. And our way in the next three years, our plan is to hit 3000 and

everybody joining us in Chicago, right? You can do this, whether you become a big,

or you make a contribution to us philanthropically, it all goes directly to matching and supporting

a young person. That's great. And the best way to do so is at bbbs.org. There is a donate button

on the top right of the screen. There is a get involved tab right there for you. If you want more

information, obviously, there's going to be frequently asked questions on there. So if you have any

sort of concerns or hesitations, everything can be addressed there on the website. Before you let

you go, any final messages to people you want to get out there, just to make sure that the messages

completely hammered home by the guy. I'm glad you, you know, the listeners and folks in here,

thank you to you, you answered the call to you, you're the reason why they had to do the

smell and salsa. Thank you to for those for leaning in like you did. You have an awesome

following and it's cool. And thank you for supporting the show, you know, the, the shows do more

than just talk about sports. Like we're, we're that today. So I just want to lift that up and

you know, people are good. Most people are good. Let's remember that, right? And one of the ways

you can do that is be a part of big brothers, big sisters. Well, what do you show me? Oh,

there you go. Curtis says, not particularly with big brothers, big sisters, but a similar

organization helped him get through childhood. I wish I was able to give back what I was given to

me. So there you go. Curtis, but BBBS, sign up, get involved. Everyone from what you're describing,

Jeremy, is capable of doing this. It's not overwhelming. You can go sit in the movie with the kid,

said a good example. If you're, I'll say this, if you're the kind of person who is curious or

even thinking about doing this, you are the kind of person that is absolutely equipped to do it.

And that's where it starts. Remember I said, were you just got to get to know that's all they ask

today is just get to know. I think you let just get to know what this organization is about, what

the mission is about. And you'll come back to it when you're ready to jump in and you'll, you will

not regret it. That's great. Are we, do we find the video?

All right, we have the video here momentarily, but again, go to BBBS.org for all the information

you need. All right, here's video, Chloe, me, Mario, and Sarah. Hey, it's the CHGO Blackhawks crew,

Mario, Jay, Sarah, and Chloe here. This is Smelling Salts. Ward, bottled insanity, premium

Smelling Salts. Not sponsored yet, but they are going to provide us with the content. This is

to pay off, reaching our $1,000 goal on Tuesday's day of giving for big brothers, big sisters.

Very happy that we reached our goal. I was certain that this gimmick would get us there. That

in the 86 minutes of podcasting did it. So you've never done this. I've never done this. You've

never done this. I have done it twice. I know about the insanity that bottled insanity.

I'm definitely going to see how it goes. All right, so since this was my idea, I'll go first.

Yeah, I hit first. Kids don't do this at all.

That's more to say, it's closer than six. That wasn't that big of a reaction.

Oh, that certainly gets in there. Okay. Yeah, it's at six inches. That's six centimeters.

Okay, go for it. The six inches. That certainly gets in there.

Oh, that's, that's a poison. That is not in joy.

Oh, God. Wait, I don't know what six inches. Oh, no, that's like camera now.

Okay, I've never done this.

Wait, it's going to go like that. No, it's not as bad as I feel.

I'm good. We did it. We paid off. All right. Where are you going now for posting?

Wow. Okay. So I would describe that as smells like the powerful salt.

A public pool being shot up your nose. Yeah, yeah, that's what it smells.

That's actually a very good description. It gets in the sinuses. I'm good.

But I see how these players, they're like, oh, they're like in it.

Yeah, they're numb. They're numb to it. Yeah. All right. Well, there you go.

Yeah, we did. We paid it off. Hopefully, that was the reaction you were hoping for. No one

threw up shot out to everyone for the donations again. And yeah, it's must see TV.

I think that was Chloe's like first week here too, that we did that.

You were very new. Welcome to the show. That was a crazy way.

So next day giving, we got to up the ante. We got to figure something else out.

I don't know what you do that could. Well, I'm sure Mario will think of something.

Yeah, Jeremy, we appreciate you being here, man. Thank you so much.

Again, we just can't reiterate enough how proud we are just to be affiliated with such a great

organization. Everybody go to bbbs.org, get involved, become a big, make a donation, do both,

do either just get the information and get your feet wet and see if it seems like a fit for you.

And again, I promise you, if you're even thinking about it, you're a fit.

We will talk to everybody tomorrow on the CHGO Blacklox podcast.