What Tyrese Haliburton, T.J. McConnell, and Quenton Jackson NEED to show for Pacers in 2026-27

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1:00Your team every day. What's up everybody? Happy Friday. Congrats. You're Man of the Week and welcome in too. On the edition of the Lockdown Pacers Podcast, where we, of course, talk about the Indiana Pacers as always. My name's Tony East. I cover the team for Forbes and Circle City Spin and I'm a wide receiver for the 49ers. And today we have a lot to discuss as we kick off the positional previews for the upcoming season for the Pacers. We'll do every single spot. We're doing point guards today through Tyree's Haliburton, T.J. McConnell and Quentin Jackson. I considered doing engine them hard here, but I just decided to do all the starters in

2:01their nominal position group for what they are for the starting five. So he'll be first up in the two guards. The way I'm going to do this this year is similar to past years. A stat that I think will be important for all these players. A big question I have about all these players. And one skill I think will be critical to this success or the failure or the importance to them or for the team for becoming season. We will start with one Tyree's Haliburton. Haliburton is about him this summer. I can't of course. And I think I want to start with the big question because it's very obvious, but I actually spent more time on his specific position than in the past. And of course, the question is how good is he going to be after the injury, right? And I think that most of the discussion, including from me to be clear about what to expect from him this year has a lot of outcome based biases in it. And that you use an example of a player whose Achilles recovery went a certain way to discuss Tyree's Haliburton, right? Oh, it's just not Tim Murray. Looked kind of good last year. Jason Tatum looked better.

3:01Modern medicine is great. Oh, Kevin Durant took a whole year off. If you're getting hurt in the finals, he didn't drop off at all. Right. You can pick all these things that went well and go great. So surely they apply to this guy. But you could I was like no one has said this. I'll bring this up in two seconds. Like Brandon Jennings was hooping 16 point not to Tyree's Haliburton's level obviously, but you know, 16 points of game, ball and he's in his mid 20s. Tyree's the cause he's never even close to good again. Like Everest. Crews over very shortly, right? Like that also happens to a point guard in his mid 20s. You know, like whatever decision you make about what you expect from him is just based on like a mostly a guess. And I'm guessing and to some extent Tyree's Haliburton is guessing how good he's going to be. He doesn't know. He doesn't know that first wind in the first game feels different. You can't prepare for it. Right. So it's impossible to say. So what I really wanted to do is just like let me look at most of if not all of the point guards who have torn their killies, NBA and what happened to them. And ironically, they split out pretty well into three groups. The first group is old toss these guys to the side for one reason or another.

4:05I want to say that because of a reason I'll get to in a second, but there is some outcome bias to that. I can't just throw this away because it doesn't seem applicable. That said, JJ Barreja, Teres and Killies careers over. He was in his mid to late 30s. He never came back the next year was over at the time, right? And that sucks. Obviously, he was so old that there was a lot of other factors in that. Troncy Phillips, same thing, mid to late 30s for him Teres and Killies. He did come back. He played like 20 games in the next season, but was not very good. He wasn't particularly that good before at that point of his career. He also said that his Achilles Terre led to other injuries for him in the future, but also again, he's in his mid to late 30s. Guess what? Those players get hurt more. They're older, right? So it's hard to know how applicable that is, but you can't just throw it out the window. So that's the first group, the old group. The next group is the similar age to Tyree's Halberton group. Two guys, Brandon Jennings just said similar age was playing pretty well. Never good again. The other one was Danda Cowe who was mediocre to open his career. Then has one out of nowhere like pretty productive season, double the score, good passer.

5:09He towards Killies that year was never good again, right? These guys were mid 20s when it happened to them. Then the last group is the still good but different group. That is ironically just the way that this has happened, been the more modern injury. One is John Wall who he had a lot going on. Other injuries, infections, he gets traded, but he had one year with Houston. People forget this because he didn't play for a year and then wasn't that awesome with the glippers, but he was good for the rockets. He averaged over 20 points of game about it. He was a success, his efficiency was way down though. He couldn't finish as well at the basket. His dunk rate was way down. His permanent numbers though, largely pretty similar. The most recent one obviously in the one that I think fans should have been the most like them last year was the John Timmery who was quite productive, pretty good. Looked pretty spry, was moon well. Only played 14 games. If you're taking any grand sample from this, you're making a mistake. You can see good stats, you can see good finishing, you can see the numbers. It's also 14 games. He had fewer dunks, but still finished well around the basket.

6:11There's a couple of ways you can look at this. You could go, well, the modern guys turned out the best. Things went kind of well for John Wall and tell all their stuff happened and things went well for John Timmery and he's probably going to be the starting point guard for the pelicans this year. The old guys were fried and the okay guys dropped off. Tariya's album was better than okay. You could use that to kind of spin whatever you want about modern medicine and the talent of the player before their injury and things about that. I wanted to do that to talk about point guards, but also to say we don't know. We don't know. I think I think from other positions as well, from hearing guys who had Achilles injures talk about it. Of course modern recoveries are more pertinent because of medicine changes. I'm of the opinion that if you're starting from a high place, you're still at least going to be pretty good. You haven't seen a ton recently and Clay is a confusing one because he had an ACL also, but you haven't seen a ton of very recently of a very good player who tears their Achilles who just stinks afterwards.

7:13I find that to be hard to believe, but knowing exactly where Tariya's album will be to start the season or throughout the season is kind of impossible to say. I'm guilty of this again. I've cited other players. I've said what I asked Halibur and all that. We just don't know. And so previewing his season is quite hard. By the way, I put this in my notes as I pivot to Achilles stat. I kept my template from last year's season previews. You remember DeLon Wright was in the point guard preview episode last year? That feels like 10 years ago. That was less than 12 months. Okay, Achilles stat for one Tariya's halibur that I will be tracking. Look, I have said, doing what I just did, I have said that I think part of what will make his shift out of Achilles injury maybe different is the best word to use. Then other players is that a lot of his strengths and a lot of what applies him to the Pacer style is his IQ, right? He reads the game at a crazy level. He does all these super smart things to bend defenses and some of the stuff that he uses

8:15his IQ to do requires some level of athleticism and shooting to do it, but not all of it. So I trust that Tariya's halibur will still be able to do some things to run a good offense. However, as he has said, as every Pacer's coach has said, as many Pacer's players have said at many times, they're offense homes at its highest level when they are getting very frequent and effective and high quality paint touches from their ball handlers all the time. I cite the phrase all the time. Jenny Boussick says that almost every time she does the halftime interviews with Jeremiah Johnson, which I love, paint to great. They love that phrase. They said all the time. That's kind of obvious. I just saw the All City podcast posted a study about how much better the points per possession numbers were for every NBA team last year and they got a paint touch. So to apply this to Halibur, the stat to me would be drives. And this is sort of related to coming back from the Kelly's tear versus just his general level of burst as a player in general versus having a different screen setter and all sorts of things. But how often Tariya's Halibur is still able to get in the lane with the way he reads the

9:16game. He gets there and the Pacers are getting an advantage just because he's there. He's going to have a nice season. He's going to rack up a ton of assists and at least get to a shot that he's capable of making. He's got that little weird right side underneath Florida. He's floating his floaters at least better than it was. I mean, two of his top five signature shots of his career are floater. Certainly before the most recent playoff run that was the case. So I think that if he's able to get into the paint at a reasonable rate approaching what he could before or even at that rate, then he will still be able to be quite productive. And the Pacers offense will have a floor of at worst quite good. My one skill is sort of like a branch of skills that relate to a big part of his off season. And this is something Justin O'Pierreck and I talked about when we talked about big storylines for the coming season is that when players suffer longer injuries, of course, the part of their body that's hurt. They can't use. And the guy we talked about was Ben Madden who had the left horn labor. Or excuse me, the right horn labor. He couldn't use his right arm. So he got much better at drilling with his left hand.

10:16So my tendons finishing things of that nature. And of course his legs got more powerful. So Haliburton, Gailie, get your off your feet for a while. Added muscle. He told us this. He's added muscle. He wants that to be a more part of his game. And if you think of Tyree's Haliburton, you don't think of him being super muscley or banging into guys in the pain or doing all sorts of this or that or whatever. And he probably shouldn't with his strengths. But what does muscular growth do for Tyree's Haliburton? What does it add to his skill set? Is that a little bit of mid post game? I kind of doubt it. Given his strengths in the Pacer's offense, but could it be? Is it some overpowering stuff on the perimeter with his drives? Is it defensive resistance from Tyree's Haliburton who like in the playoffs was like a capable enough defender, but has not been that kind of player. And I didn't hide out regular season. What is stronger Tyree's Haliburton? And does it impact him negatively in any ways? I talk about this all the time, but some players and muscle their jumpers takes a little bit to recalibrate, right? It's just different. So what does stronger Haliburton, what does that do for him? But that is actually I'm framing this as a skill.

11:19There's lots of little things that can come from more strength. Where can he use that muscle to translate to a specific skill to me? The most important one for the team, given will for a nice discussion about their potential defensive ceiling being a little higher would be that if he's a little more effective on defense, W huge for the team. Next up is one TJ McConnell going into his age 34 slash 35 season. The big question in the stat and the skills that will define that year for T.J. McConnell come out of next year on lockdown Pacers. But first everybody, let me talk to you guys about square support for today's episode. Comes from square. The system powering so many of the places we already know and love, whether you're running a packed game day spot, a local restaurant, a growing business, square gift sellers, the tools to run their business without making things more complicated. Square Biggs payments inventory payroll, invoices, customer insights, and more altogether in one connected system. So whether you're a one location business or you're growing in multiple spots, square gives you the tools to sell, to manage and to grow without needing an IT team to figure

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14:24I talked about on our end of season review with T.J. McConnell is that while he got to similar or he made a good ratio of his like patented flip up a jumper from eight feet shots, the percentage of his shots he was taking from inside 10 feet took a tumble. Same with his free throw rate. These were some of the stats we cited as like the like is he aging a little bit? Is he just different and how he's effective? So from 10 feet in, right? What in your mind think about like what percent of T.J. McConnell shots do you think come from that close? You know, you're probably pretty close with your gut. I would say right to third 70% in that range. So for the flat, the three years preceding last season, right? So 2023 through 2025. So that's three four four five and five six. No, sorry. 2022 through 2025. I can do math. Those three seasons T.J. McConnell about 60 to 65% of his shots or from inside 10 feet. So Bravo. That was your rough estimate. You nailed it. Last year, it was barely over 40%.

15:25Right? That he's good at making. He went a little farther out with that run full speed into a two point jumper. Here's the thing. He went farther out. Still made him didn't make that much of an efficiency thing. If he can still make them, it doesn't really matter how close to the basket he's getting. If I'm being honest, it's just that logic and math says if you're farther away, the chance of it going in as less. So my question is for a guy that is a pretty good finisher for his size and can get very deep in the paint to run a second unit. Can T.J. McConnell do that? Can he get within 10 feet as often as before? And that's not a question. This is the stat segment. I've been framing everything as a question today. But my stat would be that I'll be monitoring a lot this season is how close to the basket is he getting with his shots. And if he's not, can he maintain a high level of reserve point guard effectiveness as he has? He's been awesome with the Pacers for years. Can he maintain that with the farther away jumpers with a sort of just different plan of attack? But of course, he was quite good last year at making shots still and finishing and making

16:25plays while not getting as close or not taking as many of his shots from in close. And so of course that that is going to be fascinating to me as I already did with the age in question too. A big question I typed in all caps. The age, Quidding, once again, I'm not going to spend too much time on it. If you listen to the veteran questions podcast from last week, I touched on it there. I ran through the numbers of players. His age that succeed. I'm not going to rehash all that. So I typed two more things that I find interesting that are kind of a T.J. McConnell question and kind of like a surrounding T.J. McConnell question because all the time, you know, people talk about his fit and he can't really shoot. And so if there's other guards on the floor, like what's he doing? Is this actually helping the team? And so what I wonder is there's no bad mother anymore, right? This is the first time they're entering a season without Ben Matherin in a long time since 2021-22, right? That's a long time. The first year of Carlisle, right? So what do you think you listening that a unit would look like of McConnell as the primary

17:28creator for the bench? Could it work? Could without any other creators in the floor? So often, of course, the bench has Pascal Siacomo there. He plays three stints. They mix and match. So NEMHAR is out there for a while at this point or sometimes he smits out there, whatever. It's very rarely just McConnell as the creator and it's almost always McConnell plus one of the starters that's not Haliburton, whether that's NEMHAR or Siacomo. Can he be the best non-Siacomo creator on the court in winning groups again? Because so much is determined by he's headspacing centers all the time. Maybe J.H. He's had Siacomo, of course, carrying a huge load all the time. He's had Ben Mather to take some of that pressure off or someone else next to him. And maybe Kelly Ubrake can do that. Maybe Kelly Ubrake can be that pressure valve that isn't creating a ton for everybody else, but it's for himself. Maybe J.H.W. Walker takes another half step, full step forward in terms of his own putting the ball on the floor creation. Maybe just collectively between things, oh, we can do things that Ubrake can do. I think the J.H.R.S. can do.

18:29That's enough without Pascal to call that a secondary creator. But if there's not much shooting from McConnell or really that group in general, what does this look like? How are they generating enough offense to be successful? And if the answer is T.J.M. McConnell, do it all. Great. That'd be awesome for the Pacers if he was that good again this year, but if that's not the answer, what does he need to do differently to make those groups stay afloat and look good? Because he's obviously not even providing a ton of spacing and off-ball ability. So what are those groups look like? Who needs to be on the floor? What is McConnell's role in making them successful? It would be kind of my big questions because I again, I like, I'm at a month of like soft launching this and we'll talk about this for a minute. But now I thought a lot about Quentin Jackson on my trip last month because I was like, man, are they going to have to play him at times to get enough shot creation on their second unit? Are they going to be very beholden to like very strong staggers of their guards in Siacum to make sure they have enough ball handling on the floor? Am I overthinking this completely? Is that actually just enough already? Maybe the answer is yes, but I do TGM, McConnell's obviously a central figure of this without

19:33Ben Matherin. His bench will become significantly more important. One skill for TGM, McConnell getting to the foul line. He obviously did not ever do that at a high rate in the past, but it was like, you know, 10% of his shots, 15% whatever exchange for free throws last year was well below 10. You know, that was another one of his like, eh, that's not good. I think that would be a great addition slash bounce back skill for TGM, McConnell, given what I said about, you know, his changing shot profile. If you're taking harder shots ever so slightly, you're taking all these jumpers from 10 feet away. You know, if you're still doing that, that's great. In fact, I'm telling you right now, I'm not saying TGM, McConnell should change his shot diet. He should not. He's good at what he does. He takes weird shots. He makes them. Divenders can't stop it. Keep doing that. That's good. Right. But if you're either making less of them because you're taking them from farther away, or it's just harder for you to get them off for whatever reason, he's six feet tall.

20:34Can he get to the line a little bit more to offset some of those efficiency shifts that will come with what he's his shot that has transformed to be in his mid-dirties? What do you think TGM, McConnell's season high and free throw attempts wasn't a game last year? I keep quizzing you. I'm sorry. I didn't, I didn't prepare you. You probably think I guess failed twice in a game that's four, right? Maybe five, six. It was three, three free throws attempted in a game, right? And the seasons before that, it was much higher, six, seven, eight, some in that range, right? So this is a helpful trade-off if where he's shooting from shifts, if the amount of time he's shooting from their shifts, all sorts of things. But there's no downsides to getting to line at all. So I would like to see, and I think the Pacers would like to see a little bit more ability to generate free throws from one TGM, McConnell this season. I think it could help offset air quotes, any changes that happened to his offensive finishing. And yet, it's going to be hard for him to get to the line more given all the stuff that I've been talking about.

21:35That leaves us one Quentin Jackson. What can he be for the Pacers this year? What am I watching out for with him that's coming up to close out today's Lockdown Pacers? Before we get to that, let me talk to you guys about the good people over at Indeed Support for today's episode comes from Indeed Sponsored Jobs. When Workplace casts hits, and you need the right hire, Indeed Sponsored Jobs helps connect employers with candidates who manage specific life skills, certifications, location, all the things that you need to spend less time searching and more time finding the right fit. People are finding quality hires on Indeed right now. In the minute I've been talking to you, companies like yours will make 27 hires on the platform according to Indeed Zeta worldwide. Usually the biggest difference in an office setting or in sports isn't about just having somebody do more work. When we're just talking about TJ McConnell, he shouldn't do more. He should have somebody next to him or somebody with him who knows exactly what's needed to make things run smoother. It's true in sports, it's true in business, and it's true in hiring. spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes, less stress, less time, more results. When you need the right person to cut through the chaos, this is a job for Indeed Sponsored

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23:41I want to put a bow on that as it pertains to Quentin Jackson. This coming season because my big question about him is, is he going to be needed? Is there any way that if Walker doesn't take serious steps or Ben Shepherd struggling to shoot like he has to start the last couple seasons, right? Or they just need more juice with the ball in general where they go, man, the best answer to all these questions is Quentin Jackson, who they have clearly determined they like. And I think they're right. He can get to the cup. He's combative on defense. People like being around him. That's a good player. Is he going to be needed? Will this team be able to put together enough second unit rim pressure without him even as they mix and match? And my quite like I think he can do those things he has, right? He closed the game and they won against Golden State. Obviously, it's one game, but like you have to have a certain level of ability to do that. And that happened early last season. That was the Pacers first win. My question to make that possible is he if you say, if you're the Pacers, you say, okay, we need more off the dribble juice.

24:42We need more shock creation with the bench. Quentin Jackson's got to play. You can't immediately go, well, McConnell shouldn't play, right? You have to have both to solve the problem that they would be addressing by putting him in there. And so you'd have to be playing them together at some point. Quentin Jackson, albeit on a two way, not always active for the team, has been with the Pacers since the 2023-24 season. He was signed when they promoted Kendall Brown. That was before they even made the conference finals for the first time, right? He's been with the Pacers for a long time. How many minutes in those three seasons to finish off your pop quiz today? Do you think TJ McConnell and Quentin Jackson have played together? In three seasons, the answer is 177. That's it. Barely over three and a half games worth of minutes. That's not a lot of time. The reason for that is very intuitive. The best position for TJ McConnell to guard is point guard. In fact, in his case, it's the only position he can guard. Quentin Jackson's best position to guard is point guard. He can kind of guard smaller, too. Right? He's got a little more height there. But that is where this challenge lies, is if they need Quentin Jackson, my actual big question would be, can he play with TJ?

25:43Can he defend up enough to play with TJ McConnell? My question about Quentin Jackson and the point guard, segment is, can you do a non-point guard? Thanks. On defense, can you be the two at all? I'm going to continue that theme heading to the one key stat section is any off-ball stat, any of them for Quentin Jackson. Because for all the good things he can do with the ball, he's just okay as a spot up guy. He's just okay as an off-the-screen mover. He's been just okay as a cutter. These are important things, but I think the next evolution for him with McConnell and like he's never been this close to needed for the Pacers. Right? They've always had one other guard, it's usually been Ben Maddleron. Now he has a full contract and Maddleron is gone, but they can't just throw him in a point guard on the team with an M-hard caliber and a McConnell. And so if he's going to be useful and up, well, he's going to have to do some off-ball stuff. He's going to be playing off screens if it's cutting, if it's shooting. Can he add his game in any of those ways and how helpful would that be for him to be a useful player for what they need him to be? I don't think he sucks at any of those things at all to be clear.

26:46But how often do you feel like you see a gamer Quentin Jackson looks awesome and invincible and you go, man, he should he be playing more like he's pretty good. He's kind of undeniable sometimes with the ball. And then the very next game he plays, you know, 14 minutes and he takes two shots and you feel like you really notice him. And some of that's roll shift and this is going to come up in the in the skill section. Adding an off-ball anything first stat. Could he his catch of two numbers be better? Right? Can synergy log his cutting data as well above average just coming season anything that is trackable. Can you look like he made an off-ball step forward? That would be a big deal for the Pacers. And that brings me to my one skill, which is hinted at in what I just said and the kind of his level of visibility from game to game. Just some consistency would go a long way, right? It's so much easier to be trusted as a player by your coach, by your teammates. And I'm not saying he's not a trusted player at all. I'm honestly the opposite. They play Quint Jackson because they trust him. He almost played 50 games last year. However, it would help a lot if it that what I just described didn't happen or it feels like, you know, two at every three games, you're like, yeah, look at that.

27:48He played pretty well. And then the third game, you're like, where was he? Did he do anything? And I've always wondered like, is that matchup based? Is that because he's more to guard in this game? Is this because his defensive matchups quite challenging? Is it something that, you know, went wrong? So we got pulled a little early and he was that again, whatever it may be, just him feeling consistently impactful, like at the level of impact that he usually provides would be huge. I welcome theories from others on why you think that's the case. And to be clear, a lot of reserve players have this problem. This is not unique to him. But if he's going to be rising up, the responsibility ranks for a team and getting bigger and bigger contracts from a team, hey, you got to be consistent. You got to be trusted. Somebody that they, when they put you on the floor, can rely on you. I talked about that all the time, leading up to free agency. The categories of players I would sign as the Pacers were either young guy that they think they could turn into somebody who's good or if they put you in a game, they can trust you to produce. Quinn Jackson is certainly in a ladder group. I think they can and do trust him to produce, but it has a bit all the time and it needs

28:48to be more all the time. This year for the Pacers and that is the point guards kind of not injured in hard news, two guards slash point guard. We will do these in the lead up to camp. I think next week I'll do two small forwards and shooting guards and I will let you know now I've been doing four days weeks since the start of August. I will not do Labor Day next Monday, but after that back to every day. So four days next week, back to five days a week, I got the whole plan for basically up till training camp laid out for episodes with some reflexiveness for news and big stuff. So looking forward to all that. Hope you guys enjoyed today's episode. You can find me on the field for the 49ers. There's a wider receiver, but also on social media at Tony R.E. This podcast is on many social media platforms at lockdown Pacers. Back next Tuesday talking more about this team, tell them everybody have a wonderful weekend. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidate to check all your boxes with less stress, less time and more results.

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