When ideology clouds our view of history

0:00Music Helping to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, this is the Constitution study on the America Out Loud Network with your host Paul Engel. As people get older, we tend to look back at the decisions we've made. Sometimes we feel good about them. Sometimes not so much. The advantage of age over youth is the perspective we have from our experience. Hello there, everyday Americans, Paul Engel here with the Constitution study, where we read and studied the Constitution, teacher I should be free. Glad you could join me today. I am getting older. I'm in my six decade. I've been on this planet for many many years.

1:00And I find myself looking back and well sometimes I like what I see. Sometimes I think I could have done better. And I have several stories I want to look at today that kind of remind me of this importance of well not only learning from our own experience but maybe learning from others. And I'm going to start with an interview Clarence Thomas did where he talks about the concept of precedence, the philosophy of story desicces. Why do you think it is that you are the most willing to reconsider precedent? You know I start with something you and I think have talked about over the years and that is that I start with something has to make sense. You know you go quote from your grandfather, if it don't make no damn sense and don't make no damn sense. Yeah, and I keep that in my office. And a bit later, just as Thomas used in very excellent analogy for this idea of story desicces from something learned from his grandfather about plowing a field.

2:10So my granddaddy said boy, and that he would always say, and he put a little cuss word in there from time he said, and those rows better be straight. So you have to take your first row and it has to be absolutely straight. Then you put your tire in the groove where the plows, especially using a dish plow and they go different ways you go and you follow that. So now every subsequent row is straight. Well, if he's going back to your point about precedent, what if that first row is crooked? What do you keep going, pretending that is straight or do you go back and make it straight? Right. That's why you say, well, I'm not accepting precedent. If something doesn't make any sense, I can't, what am I going to do? Am I a fool for following that or not questioning it? I would say no, you're not a fool for not following it because again, if that first row is crooked, if that first understanding is wrong, then everything based on it is wrong. And you have to remember the game of telephone, right, because it's not an exact copy.

3:15There's going to be slight deviations in each one and you end up with with deviation upon deviation until you're clearly a few looks like like a like a mess. And so I understand I wish just as time spent more time bucking precedent, but he went on to describe an example of this. And this is the the back and forth with Mr. Cruz. I taught a course on on starry devices just for this point. It makes sense when you have this unwritten laws and when you have traditions and when barons are like ruling on cases and these rural areas in England, but when you have positive law, when it's written down and you can see the deviation. Who's the fool? You follow something to sub-sert. Why would you follow something to sub-sert? Well, look, a great example of that. In the case I talk about quite a bit in the book is the kilo case where kilo involved a city that was condemning a woman's home.

4:20They had for a hundred years. There's tiny house, regular persons house, not a mansion and the for a public purpose, not not a public use. And that started in Southwest DC by the way for the precedent for that. And the court was willing to say that the public purpose was the equivalent of public use. Well, a public purpose could be to increase your tax base. Now, I disagree with Justice Thomas regularly frequently, I should say in his position on things, but he's made a point here about precedent of starry devices. It's one thing when our laws were made up out of tradition. They were not written down, but now that we have what he prefers was positive laws laws that are written down. Well, then when you deviate from them, now you're not dealing with tradition replacing tradition above the written law. In many cases, the supreme law of the land.

5:20So as Justice Thomas is looking back at his life, I'm wondering if he's looking at some of those decisions saying maybe, maybe precedent was more of a problem than than I thirst thought. Maybe we look at our history and say, you know what? We need to learn something from that. Here's another example. Attorneys general from half of the 50 states have called on a Congress to defund the National Academy of Sciences Engineering and Medicine. Now, why do these attorneys general call on Congress and other federal agencies to defund the National Academy of Sciences? They claim that the organization has used tax-day payard dollars to produce reports that are specifically designed to support plaintiffs and climate lawsuits against energy companies. In the letter signed by the attorneys general, they said that to end grants to an organization and a SCM that uses taxpayer money to prop up litigation theories that have been rejected by courts from Maryland to Mississippi to California.

6:31So in other words, this is your taxpayer dollar. Again, first of all, I contend that the National Academy of Sciences Engineering and Medicine doesn't legally exist because Congress is not authorized to spend money to promote the National Institute of Sciences Engineering or Medicine. They are not. Remember, Congress can only have the power to lay and collect taxes to pay the debts, provide for the common defense and the general welfare of the United States, capital U, capital S, proper noun. The entity whose government is in Washington, DC. Now, Congress also has the power to promote the progress of science and use for arts. But that's not the whole clause. It goes on by securing for limited time to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries. Not to fund them, not to fund research, not to take your money, but to grant copyrights and patents. That is the only way Congress is legally authorized to promote the science and use for arts.

7:33But now you have them spending. God knows how many billions of dollars on these agencies, one of which now we find out is accused of basic playing corporal politics. We're going to support a political agenda. And even though legally it's been rejected, they're still creating propaganda for that purpose. Now, again, looking back, I meant, you know, oh, we want, we want science is one, we want to approach science, we want energy, we want to do this. I understand the reason why they wanted it. But when Congress ignored the Supreme Law of the Land, ignored their oath to support the Constitution, ignored what the Constitution actually said and started doing what they thought was best. The logical consequence is now a government where science is manipulated by politics, not the other way around, where science is now politics. This is where you end up with a bureaucrat that says, I am the science. I think it starts with the idea of we need to fund these things.

8:41We don't think they're getting enough money. We need to do it because well, people who are controlling their own money, they don't have to worry about this. They're not doing enough as we think we are going to do it for them. And one of the examples that the attorneys general claiming is, listen, they're climate, they're climate extremists. They're supporting climate reports that don't follow the science, don't follow what's really going on. They're making this stuff up. Now, what am I, a couple of my cohorts here at the America out loud, Tom Harris and Todd Royal, they have a program called the other side of the story where they did an interesting study looking at a, the question, our weather disasters getting worse. And they actually point to a dashboard from the global extreme weather and climate change system tracker. All right, so it's a, it's the global extreme weather and climate change dashboard. You know me, I love facts and data. So I took a quick look at this.

9:43And they show eight different phenomena that they track. Now, this is globally. So six of the eight global weather events, a track are that they had no change six of the eight had no change whatsoever. Tropical cyclones, tornadoes, wildfires, uh, ETC intensive, not quite sure what that is, drought and flooding. So six had no change. Now two of them did have change. He waves, he waves went up by point zero, three, one per decade. Uh, and so you're talking about the, the heat wave in a decade went up less than one and extreme cold, but in scream cold went down point four, six, four, which I'm not a mathematician. I'm not a statistician, but it looks to me like, um, cold is more concerning than is growing faster than extreme cold, then, then heat waves.

10:46Now, of course, this got a lot of attention lately because you had Europe had that heat wave and people were dying and, and there are all sorts of, of, um, uh, allegations that this is, this is, uh, this is global warming, climate change, whatever doesn't look like that's the case. Now, let's look at the United States. They have another dashboard that looks just in the United States. Uh, again, tornadoes, flooding, drought, winter storms and hurricanes. There were been no change detected. Uh, overall looking at the data. Now they did say heat waves were, we're off. Right. We've had four more heat waves per in this decade. Um, there, we did have some extreme cold. We've had one point one and a half more extreme cold events per decade. And wildfires are up. There are a lot of wild, a lot more wildfires, but the entry point, the dashboard points out they identify and to what happened, not why it happened.

11:49Right. They identify what happened, not why it happened. So the question is, why are there so many more wildfires in a per decade recently? I contend it's because as part of the, um, we'll call them, I'll call them eco commies. Right. They're pushed to think they prevent the management of our, our forest and woodlands. So I've lived in the country almost all of my life. I've lived near woods. And you know what happens in woods? Um, trees die and they, and they fall down. And, uh, you know, small trees get, get grow up and they die. You, if you don't clear out the underbrush, a fire gets really, really, really big. But we spent a member, you know, smoking the bear, only you can prevent forest fires. But they didn't do any preventative maintenance. It's like getting in a car, you buy a brand new car.

12:51And you drive it for years and years and years and you never change the oil. You, you never, you know, flush the coolant. You never check the tire pressures. And then your surprise, you need cars starts breaking down all the time. Well, that's kind of the way wildfires become, right? They spend note that they've actually, they've actively prevented the basic maintenance of forest needs clearing out brush. And you know what? Most fires, most forests, they don't become the big firestorms we hear about because all they do is clean out the brush and go out. We hear about the really big ones. Once California is famous for because there's so much underbrush fuel, the fires get big enough to catch the mature trees on fire. And that's when you get the big wildfires. So again, if we're looking at, you know, going back to the attorneys general, well, if what's happening is they are, they are promoting, quote unquote, they call it science, but it's actually a political movement against fossil fuels. Why are you paying for it? Why is the American taxpayer paying for this?

14:00Well, again, the answer is because it's politics. Right? This is, this is not rocket science ladies and gentlemen. Congress is a political body. They're making political decisions, including the funding of political of politicized science for their own, I believe their own political agenda. And the fact that now half of all the state attorneys general have called on Congress and the federal government to stop this, this funding nonsense tells me that the more and more people are seeing the politics behind the so called science, the same way we saw it with the government. The same way we saw it with COVID and the mRNA vaccine, the same way we saw it with, we've seen it for decades with climate change, even the same way we've seen it with AIDS HIV and AIDS. It's time that we stop using politics to define science. Science is supposed to be what you can test and reproduce the scientific method.

15:03It's time to get back to that and it's time we get the federal government back to funding only things they're legally and constitutionally authorized to spend money on. Now, I have some more examples of stuff I want to get to getting looking back, consequences and all that, but I have a break coming up. Before I do, you know, I believe in proper preparation. As I said, I've lived in rural areas most of my life, which means, you know, if you call for help, it takes time for people to show up. So I want to be prepared. And one of the ways I'm prepared, I have, I have fire extinguishers in my house and car. I have first aid kits. I have a trauma kits. I took a trauma class a few years ago and I don't have trauma kits for serious injuries. But there's more. There's one kid I'm adding in my repertoire and it's coming from our friends at the wellness company. They've put together a set of emergency kits designed for those emergencies when you need help, but maybe you can't get help right away. We're not talking about what you would buy in the pharmacy. These have prescription medications in them. Right. So think of it. It's a, it's a, it's a weekend or an evening and and so, you know, so many of your family is sick.

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20:31America out loud dot news is that place to awaken your heart, soul and mind to the out loud truth. Welcome back every day American. You've rejoined the Constitution. You've been talking about life's consequences and in many cases looking back at what happened and learning from our history. Sadly, that requires an honest look at the history and honest look at this idea of cause and effect. Sadly, there are some people that are not very good at an honest look. Now we all have roads colored glasses, right? We have our worldview. We all look at things a certain way. But sometimes we do let that shade our perception of reality to a fairly high extent. For example, any lawry, a staff writer at The Atlantic was on almond pouring company when she made this statement.

21:36Part of the reason that we do not have universal simple benefit systems in this country like some of our peer countries have is because we were creating those programs often during Jim Crow. Okay, now I have to admit I hear this and my first thought is what are you smoking? Now hang on, I'm going to give her a chance to explain herself and because I want you to hear all this. But again, Jim Crow, how does Jim Crow relate to things like universal health care or universal basic income? Let me let her explain how she sees things, how she sees our history. And we wanted to have ways to get benefits to some people but not others. Jim Crow, of course, was a time when we invented a huge number of administrative burdens to make sure that black folks in the South couldn't vote but white folks could when we couldn't legislate a rule saying that you cannot vote if you're black. So they come up with all of these bureaucratic procedural things to make sure that white families can vote, black families cannot along obviously with a campaign of racial terror that was occurring in the South at the time.

22:43Okay, a fairly, I would say accurate description of Jim Crow. She did miss a couple of things. She did only briefly mention that this was happening only in certain states. These are southern states that were doing this. It wasn't general, but it involved again voting and other things and but we're trying to come up with these benefits. How does he? I'm still trying to find the Jim Crow rule that said you don't get this coverage. She doesn't exactly give you one, but this is what she does give you. We still have this legacy of these non universal very complicated systems that are meant to suss out who is deserving and who isn't deserving because of our racial makeup. Really, is it because of our racial makeup or is it because the idea that first of all, the federal government is not authorized to provide these types of services. The last two, she doesn't authorize them do so and we look at things like, hey, do you need help or not?

23:45In other words, if you're, if you're, if you're bill gates or or you know Elon Musk, do you need subsidized healthcare? Why should we spend our money on people who don't need the help when we could focus our money on people who do need the help, but she wasn't done. And other countries when they're designing these systems, they often, you know, they're smaller and they're more racially and ethnically homogenous than the United States. And I think that diversity is obviously our strength and we are grand experiment in multi racial, multi ethnic democracy, but it does it affects service delivery and we still have a legacy of those same, those same rules applying today. So she's right, these other nations are smaller, which makes it easier to do. They do tend to be more ethnically homogenous. We are not a democracy or a public, but notice the thing that's kind of ignored. See, she's assuming that, well, this is universal benefit systems. This is normal. This is natural. This is not normal. It's not natural. It's socialism.

24:48It's taking control out of people's hands and telling and the government telling them what to do. She's saying that we don't have a socialist system because of Jim Crow. She provide absolutely no evidence that Jim Crow was used to deny so security or other benefits to to I'm sure it wasn't some places. I'm not saying it wasn't. She provides no evidence that it's actually there. But she also misses a fundamental difference. Remember, you know, I was at the UK didn't come up with their national health system until after World War two. Quite, you know, I don't know about the other, the other states in Europe, but these systems are also collapsing under their own weight, meaning if you look at Canada and the UK and Europe, many of these systems have become well less helpful because they, you know, if you have a cold, they're okay. If you want to check up, they're okay. When you have a serious health issue, they have problems. They cannot support it because they're based on a socialist idea and socialism doesn't work. She just completely ignores that.

26:02That's why I said, when we look at our history, we have to be honest about what's actually happening and what's causing it. If we're going to get to an answer that well, not only makes sense, but provides better services in the future. Here's another example. Michigan has been spending a huge, they call it historic amounts of money on education. According to a report, I'm looking at for the center square. However, Michigan students test scores or standardized test scores have also hit historic lows. The results of the Michigan student test and educational progress system, they're, they're standardized testing found that 60, almost 62% of all third graders are below proficient on English. And that is that number is up. It was just 61%, it's almost 62% now. 61% and 24 is almost 62 and 22 and 26. I'm sorry.

27:05So even though Michigan spending more and more money on public school education, almost two thirds of the students, at least by third grade, can't read and write up to what would be considered proficient. Now, what happens is this goes along because if you're not proficient reading and writing in third grade, what happens when you get to eighth grade or 12th grade? Are we expecting to be able to these magically catch up or does this become a long term detriment that continues with them not just through their public school experience, but through their entire lives? In fact, in the entire tool of your history of the M step system, 2026 are the worst scores ever recorded among third graders. Now, there were a lot of setbacks that were originally attributed to, well, they say to COVID-19. I disagree it was COVID-19. Why? Well, first of all, it wasn't COVID-19. It was the government did in response to COVID-19 shutting down schools, locking children in, basically destroying the educational, even with little education environment they had, they got rid of it.

28:16But there's more because third graders in 2026 were only two or three years old when the pandemic started in 2020, meaning they didn't start school until they were in the same school. So, in the end of the year, they were still 22, 23, in other words, after the worst of COVID had already been through the system. So, you can't really blame COVID for this. You can blame, yes, you can blame some of the way the schools have operated. But again, if you look at that at our history, looking back saying, public schools in this country are all, are an object failure. So, some schools do a fine job, some schools are just object failures. And to me, the reason is simple, because public schools are government schools, they're therefore politicized. And, as long as politics reigns, you're going to have political problems in our schooling.

29:19And this, to me, gets back to a fundamental question, I hear all the time. How do you measure the success of a school? Right? Because again, this article is based on, well, look at how much money Michigan is spending on public schools. And the results I get. So, if the answer was simply more money, then the United States, which spends more per student than pretty much any, I believe, any country in the developed world, we don't have geniuses. Almost all our schools will be graduating people who are literate and reading writing in arithmetic. For example, the state of Michigan spends over $10,000 per student. That's just the state to educate our children. But third graders are not passing. There's something wrong here. Because I think the, it's how we test is a school successful. How do we measure if a school is successful? I had this discussion with a gentleman who was running for county mayor, who happened to work in the public school system.

30:29And I, he was talking about measuring schools by how much money they spend. I said, I don't want to measure schools that way. I want to measure schools by the percentage of students they graduate that are literate in math, English, and civics. The percentages that are literate in math, reading and civics, meaning you can do basic math. You can make change for a 20. You understand the concept of compound interest. You can, you read them, add, subtract, multiply, divide. You don't need to have calculus. You don't need to have maybe some geometry. They should be able to read and write the English language comfortably. They should understand, they don't need to be able to read and recite Homer. But you should be able to read a newspaper and understand what's going on. You should be able to read directions and assemble a piece of furniture without having to resort to pictures. You should be able to file a job application and be understood.

31:37And civics, you should understand your role in our society as a citizen or a non-citizen resident, you know, voting, jury duty, all of these things, you should be educated in that process. And that's where we're failing. And it doesn't matter how much money we spend, it doesn't change until we change the measurement the goals we're actually looking for. You know, there's a saying that hindsight is 2020, but that's only true if your eyes are working. In other words, many of us we get older, we need glasses, I wear glasses. And well, what if we're looking in hindsight with the wrong prescription? I reminded of a scene from the movie My Cousin Vinny, where there's an elderly lady testifying as an eyewitness to a crime. And as part of the defense, the attorney Vinny gives you a simple eye exam, which she fails.

32:37And her response was classic. What do you think now, dear? I'm thinking of getting thicker glasses. And that's the point. If you're trying to, I witness something, you're trying to identify the past, you got to have the right glasses. If your eyesight is not working right, you know, hindsight doesn't help you. If you need glasses and your prescription is wrong, hindsight doesn't help you. Hineside is only 2020 when you can see properly. And whether that's this lady who thinks that the reason we're not a socialist nation is because of Jim Crow, or say Governor Whitmer and the throwing of money at schools, hoping that they'll suddenly magically start turning out literate children, their glasses are wrong. Their glasses, their viewing their hindsight with the wrong glasses. And it's distorting their view, which of course means their solution to the problems are also going to be, they're going to be flawed.

33:43They're going to be wrong. And we continue the same problem. It's like a just as time was saying they have a crooked first row. They can't see it. They continue to follow that crooked first row and then be shocked, shocked when they find out that the roads of their field are all crooked. Well, how could it be? We followed our directions. We did exactly what we're supposed to do. We were just basing it. We didn't know we couldn't pause in basing it off the wrong a crooked first row. There must be some will just throw more money at it. So what happens when your hindsight is again, not based in good viewing, good, you know, the ability to see when it's based on roads colored glasses filtered glasses. That see things only in the view you want them to be not in what really is. That's what I've talked about when we talk about life's consequences. We don't want to have happen. We don't get life's consequences from what we believe things should happen.

34:48Our life has consequences from what actually is true and what actually does happen. And when we ignore that, well, we get the unintended consequences that often lead to, well, despair, socialism, dystopia, a lot of bad things. And that's exactly a lot of people are pointing us to. Now, there are a lot of other things you want to look at. I've got a couple more articles I want to get to, but before I do that, I have to take another break. But I want to remind you, these people who are looking back telling us how things should be if we don't only follow their misguided ideas, they're after our rights, they're after our liberty. The lady she wants you to not have a choice in healthcare, you know, governor Whitmer and most governors don't want you to have much of a choice in, in, in how you educate your children, they're under attack and they're being supported by organizations that you may be funding. Don't fund those organizations that are attacking our right to live free.

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40:16Welcome back, everybody. American should rejoin the Constitution say today. We're talking about lives consequences and sometimes it's consequences for our own ignorance. I've talked before about the SAVE America Act. This idea that the federal government is going to control all voter registration. They can come in and say that even though the Constitution of the United States doesn't require citizenship to vote, it's not in there. Every state constitution I'm aware of does, but not the federal. They claim the authority to say, no, this is what you must do to register to vote regardless of the election. They do want photo IDs, which again, that'd be constitutional if it was limited to House and Senate voting, but that's part of the problem we have here. Well, there's a new twist to this nonsense. Apparently immigration and custom enforcement is budgeted $5 million to create a voter registration database.

41:21They want a national collection of all your voter registration and your voter history. That's what they want. Now, I remember people who said they don't they won't register to vote because they don't want their name on the list. Maybe this is what they were thinking of because that's exactly what apparently ISIS trying to do. Now, the claim is is so they can go after voter fraud. How is voter fraud a power delegate to immigration and customs enforcement? And again, remember, you know, Congress can make rules to modify voting time, place of men are voting, but only for House and Senate. So this is just another federal takeover of the election process, one of the amazing aspects. And this is where this consequences hindsight is great. One of the amazing aspects of our electoral system is there is not a centralized election process.

42:21You have 51 more than that technically, but because you got the territories, but you've got each of the 50 states plus the digital domain plus they run their own elections. Now, this exists for a couple of reasons. One is of all the elections that we have in the states, there's only a couple that actually are for federal offices. In fact, there's exactly two US House and US Senate. No, not the president. The people don't vote for president. The people vote to tell their state whose presidential electors they want to appoint another piece of fact has been lost to history because we don't understand we don't read instead of the Constitution and we let people with political agendas tell us how things are supposed to be. So this diverse thing and people say that's the problem. It's distributed. It also means it makes it more difficult to attack. Do you remember in the 2020 election, there were problems in what was it? It was Maryland and Pennsylvania and there were all these states. There's several states. That was four or five of nothing that had serious electoral problems.

43:28Didn't impact the whole country did it because those were only handful of states. Now it did have an impact on who eventually won the presidency, but those are state elections that were that were the problem. Remember the 2000 election, right? You'll learn more about chads and after the 2000 election with anywhere else. Yes, that an impact on who was the president, but it's only one state. It was one state that had one election. Imagine now the federal government having all your voting registration information, all your voting history. Do you really think that they're only going to use that to try and find illegal aliens? History says otherwise. History says that this is just another attempt to gather data that eventually, even if you don't believe this president will do so. Eventually some administration is going to find some way to use this for their own political agenda. And again, what does this have to do with immigration and customs enforcement?

44:30If you've got a register, the fact that you're registered to vote, unless your state actually has a law requiring proof of citizenship to register, it doesn't tell you whether a person is a citizen or not. So yeah, this again, just seems to be another federal power grab. Because it's not just who's registered to vote. It's your voting history. It's remember, we're supposed to have secret ballots, right? You're supposed to go in, you go behind a curtain or behind a little panel and you vote. It's supposed to be secret. But when you vote and what election to vote, that's not secret. What is the federal government? Where tell me where in the Constitution is the federal government authorize that access that information? That Lation German is an unreasonable search. That is a violation of the Fourth Amendment. Now again, the collection of the data, you're seizing data without a good reason that makes unreasonable seizure. This seems to me a violation of the for a plentiful latent violation of the Fourth Amendment. All so that federal investigators.

45:39I'm sorry, they're not simply going to investigate voter fraud. I can't see them. But put you this way, imagine that this, that the ICE already had this. Imagine what would a, what a president Biden or God forbid a president Harris would do with this information. You've already seen the under the Biden administration, the FBI went after me for simply being an enrollment Catholic church, a traditional Roman Catholic church. What do you think they're going to do when they can look at the voting history as well? Suddenly is there going to be a claim that, oh my God, you've got religious people voting. That's a violation of the First Amendment. That's that separates a church and state. I say you voting and you went to church that Sunday and oh my, is that really that far fetched? And of course, if you're telling corruption, as you have, here's another one. So an advisor to Senator South Dakota Senator Mike Rounds, a John Byther and Robert Jornsburg.

46:43Apparently, he was moonlighting. He was moonlighting as a state lobbyist for several interesting clients. Meta, one of the tobacco companies, Altria, Freedom Foundation, Association of Equipment Manufacturers, even South Dakota dairy producers and South Dakota pork produce. He was lobbying in the state legislature. While he was working as a senior advisor to a US Senator. Does anyone else see some issues with that? I mean, Senator Rounds, who, you know, Mr. Shornsburg works for, he's worked on legislation that directly impacts the industries that Mr. Shornsburg represents at the state level. Conflict of interest. And in fact, Senator Ethics rules prohibit some staffers from affiliating with firms, partnerships, association corporations or other entity for the purpose of providing professional services for compensation, meaning this looks like it was an ethics violation.

47:49But according to a spokesperson for Senator Rounds, they did approach the, the aesthetic select committee on ethics and said, nope, no, there's no conflict of interest here. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Seems to me that there might be that that just seems like again, you're working with a, with a Senator on legislation that impacts you as a, as a lobbyist. Even if it's not in the, in the, in the same legislature, it just seems like a conflict of interest to me. I think we would have learned from stuff like that. I would, this one, right? How many of you are just looking at beef prices going there, they're way too high or the beef is very expensive. Well, don't worry about the Department of Justice is out to violate the Constitution to help you. DOJ posted on X that they are investigating multiple eight different grocers claiming that beef prices are a critical concern to Americans and a priority for this Justice Department.

48:56Where is their reasonable article suspicion that these entities have actually committed? Oh, I don't know, a crime. News Recreported letters back as the, from July, we're looking for company records regarding retail sales, prices, costs, and margins for beef products. So the DOJ can determine whether or not you're acting in good faith or not. Yeah, that's basically what's a, we, we see, we see the political issue of high beef prices and now the DOJ is doing an investigation, not because they've got evidence of a crime apparently or even a regional article suspicion, it's just what beef prices are high. And for that, they want to seize and search corporate private corporate records. Apparently, they don't want the, they sent a letter. They didn't get a warrant. If the DOJ could have gotten a warrant, you think they would have gotten a warrant. And again, they never asked why are beef prices up? I mean, could it be that, oh, I don't know. Remember those beef tariffs that that Trump paused because briefcase, maybe that's a large part of why beef prices are up.

50:03Maybe it has something to do with, oh, I don't know, the EPA trying to regulate cowfarts or the, the fact that the federal government has basically stolen millions of acres of land out west that, you know, is often used for calligraph raising and they charging more rent fees for at least fees for allowing Americans to graze on this federal land. There could be a lot of interesting things. Why is the DOJ looking for private records? See, this to me, this is what happens when you have a government that's detached from its founding documents. This, ladies and gentlemen, this seems to be another political witch hunt. Now, do I think that none of these grocery stores are making money off of beef? No, they're making money. And then, for example, were Tyson food settled a class action lawsuit for about $82 million when they were accused of a restricting supply in order to inflate beef prices.

51:06Okay, they were accused. It wasn't proven. They settled. And I remember I even my family business, we settled the case out of court because even though we were right. There are chances of winning. We're very, very low. So that's not proof of guilt. So again, where is their, the reasonable article suspicion of a crime? Where's the probable cause to ask for this data? I don't own stock any of these companies. My advice that if anyone's listening, as I would say, no, we're not handing over that data until you get a warrant. So your probable cause, supported by author affirmation, then we'll hand over the, that's what's required for you to seize and search our records is a warrant. And we're not going to simply consent to you searching our records. We want to want if the DOJ ever come to me looking for my business records, that's my answer, which warrant to you get a warrant, you're not getting access to the records.

52:08Okay, I got one more and I bring it up more because it shows how important family is and how, how crazy states can be. See, a court in Portland, Maine, just decided that a mother could not bring her daughter to church on the grounds that that was causing psychological harm, that the church's teachings were causing psychological harm to the child. The mother, an Emily Bickford attends Calvary Chapel in Portland, Maine, the child's father is not a Christian. And he sued claiming that the court was dangerous in a harmful environment. Why? Well, the daughter went to church, she heard a teaching on in time, right at the end of the world. And what happens to those who don't believe in Jesus. And she began having anxiety and panic attacks about what might happen to her father.

53:10So apparently rather than explaining to the daughter, you know, consoling her, nope, the father's response is don't let her go to church because she's finding out that I've made decisions that you're fully willing to the father Matthew Brady. I'm not saying you can't decide not to be a Christian. I mean, that's perfectly fine. But we can't tell the child of the possible consequences because it makes the child feel bad. Again, how you teach the child's 13 years old and having taught Sunday school, how you approach certain topics to young people is important. I don't know what what she was taught, how she was taught. But if the answer is you're not allowed a Christian education because again, let's assume, because on a Christian, that the teaching is correct, right. People who don't believe in Jesus at the end of the world, they go to a place where there's wailing and gnashing of teeth. We call it hell. I would imagine a daughter is very unhappy about the idea that her father might go to hell. In fact, my father died almost a year ago, and I had a conversation with some friends of ours who they asked me, where's your father now? And I had to tell him.

54:21I think he's in a very uncomfortable place because my father didn't express a belief in in Jesus. Now, I'm obviously older. We're dealing with adults. You have to approach this difficulty with children. But the idea that Christian teachings are harmful to children. You may not have been done properly, but it seems kind of an issue. But then we're dealing with Portland. I mean, so I'm not entirely surprised. Again, because I understand biblical teaching, especially to young people not done properly can be an issue. The same way as constitutional teachings, especially to young people, if not done properly, can cause issues. It's one of the reasons why created the Patriots program. I want a group of people that are deeply founded in the constitution and the proper reading of it, what it actually says, what the words actually mean based on the people who wrote it, and then can use that to educate people and to help people. You can find out more of it going to constitution study.com slash Patriots. It's an invitation only program. Right. You can't simply sign up. You can find out more. There's a bootcamp. You can sign up for at that website.

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