When It Comes To “Regime Change” America Is More Successful Than You Think w/Dinesh D’Souza

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Hello and welcome to the Carl Jackson Show. This is your daily dose of freedom, your daily dose

of objective truth. Guys, I got a great show for you lined up today. I got one of my favorite

guests, one of my favorite people, one of the best intellectuals I would say on the conservative

right. And I always enjoy having him on because I always learned something from him.

And so Denesh D'Souza, welcome back to the program. Thank you. Thanks for having me on again.

Yes, sir. Denesh, listen, probably it's been over a month. You wrote a substack of yours,

and it was called Regime Change Trump style. And I want to get into that as it relates to

Operation Epic Fury, now also Operation Economic Fury, because I've been arguing that I

mean based upon what I've read, we are seeing one of the most successful US military operations

that I've known of. You've got a lot of people on the left, and quite frankly, the so-called

right that seem to be trying to undermine this. And when I saw this substack on Regime Change,

you put it into great perspective. But before we go any further, I do want people to know where

they can find you, Denesh, because I believe you are such an asset. Don't forget to get his movie,

The Dragon's Prophecy, or you can watch it. I believe Amazon, YouTube,

a different place is you can go to check out The Dragon's Prophecy. He also has a weekly show,

just called Denesh, I believe you said. And also, let's get into this. You mentioned before we

went live here, Denesh. You've done a recent, I believe, substack on the real estate president.

That grabbed me right away. What does that mean? So maybe we start there. People try to understand

Trump ideologically. And if you do, the things he says and does won't make sense to you.

But if we think back to the people who said, you know, we're trying to elect not a politician,

but a businessman. And by the way, not any kind of businessman, this is a real estate guy,

right? This is the guy who came of age on the real estate lot. He's all about building a real estate

empire, acquisitions, deals. This is Trump. And I think a lot of things that he says and does

are illuminated when you use this kind of framework, you know, because Trump will say weird stuff.

He said recently, for example, in the context of the Iran war, he rounds up the generals and he

goes, hey, we're blowing up these Iranian ships, you know, and he goes, why aren't we blowing them

up? I mean, a ship is like a big asset. Like why don't we capture them and like sell them for

scrap or make, you know, use them ourselves. And the generals are like, oh, no, no, we have to

blow them up. And one of you said it's fun to blow them up. And I think Trump realized that maybe

in practice, what he was suggesting is impractical, but look at the mindset, right? I mean, I don't see

George W. Bush or Reagan or any other president thinking in terms of listening, you know, and same

with Gaza. Trump will look at Gaza and he goes, man, what a pity. It's like a bunch of rubble

over there. It's like on the beach, you know, the waters right there. Why can't we have a river

era? What about some coffee shops, nice buildings, maybe a Trump tower? You know, this is the realist,

this is what I'm talking about. And I think you can apply it. I applied pretty broadly. I applied

to NATO, the state of Hormuz, the real estate mindset shows you the Trump is about all about

increasing the real estate value of this sort of this corporation called the United States of

America. He's the CEO. I love that. I love that. That is a, that is a very good point. You know,

what's funny? It made me laugh right away because I remember hearing that audio clip of him

saying, why are asking? Why are we blowing up the ships? And Denesh, I would have never even

thought to ask that. Honestly, I would have been like, blow them to smithereens. But the fact

that he was like, hey, they are, you know, he didn't look at them as assets. I think that is

very funny and enlightening. So that is a good take that you will get from a Denesh show.

Make sure you subscribe to his sub-stack. Make sure you watch his show. And again, check out his

movie, The Dragon's Prophecy. Okay. So Denesh and I'm going to tie this into some of the new stories

of the day. But I just thought this was fascinating. When you wrote regime change, Trump style,

it grabbed me right away because the argument from some people on the left and the argument from

the Tucker Carlson's, the Candace Owens's, the Candace Owens's on, et cetera, allegedly on the right

is that regime change, you know, regime change never, never works. And then I, especially, well,

when it comes to America in particular. And then I ran across this sub-stack of yours and I was

like, man, what a great argument. So if we could, I'd like to take this kind of section by section

and where we did mess up in Afghanistan and Iraq. But let's start with the American revolution.

Because I never even thought about it in those terms, Denesh. But we've been generally successful,

the United States of America has when it comes to regime change starting with the American

revolution. All the key events of American history are connected to regime change.

The revolution, of course, you have the regime of the crown and ejecting them and creating an

American revolution. That was regime change. The Civil War was regime change because the Southern

Confederacy created an independent nation. They had their own constitution. They were a functioning

government, by the way, when Abraham Lincoln came to office in early 1861. The Mexican War,

in the middle of the 19th century, the Texans broke loose from Mexico. But they hadn't yet

joined the United States. Then there was a border dispute with Mexico. And the United States

went to Mexico, where American troops were in Mexico City. And they could have taken all of

Mexico, but they didn't. Ultimately, what happened is just Texas joined the United States.

But that was regime change. Texas went from being an independent republic and now being part of

the United States. Let's fast forward. A lot of people give the examples of World War Two,

but let's jump over those and go to the Cold War. Look at how well regime change turned out

in Poland, in Romania, in Czechoslovakia, that now the Czech Republic. And remember that the

lot of the regime change was done, hardly by the people themselves. It was Lekwilensa in Poland.

It was the people of Romania who went into the presidential palace, grab Chuchescu,

yanked him out of there. So notice that the regime change is not entirely done from the outside.

The outside forces can create the conditions for it. But many times the people of that country

themselves are the ones who take it to the final stage. And when I look at countries like today,

Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran, it may well be that the people themselves and those countries

become the final agents of regime change. Yeah, honestly, it's a brilliant point. And we've gone

through, you've gone through some of them relatively quickly. I want to add another couple of

examples that you wrote about. You talked about the regime change of the Ottoman Empire,

which I thought was very clever. Also, we rewrote Japan and Germany's constitution basically.

So those were successful instances where America was involved, where regime change was not only

crucial, but extremely successful. Extremely successful. And here's an example people don't know

about. When Mussolini was running Italy, and of course he was allied with Nazi Germany,

the United States invaded Italy from the south. And what they did was the United States and the

Allies changed the balance of power inside of Italy. So there was a rebellion inside of Italy,

essentially the Italians corralled Mussolini and executed him. And then Italy, which was on the Nazi

side, joined the Allies. So regime change inside of Italy during the war. And a lot of this is now

like faded into the mist of history. But there it is. If you look at the record, you see example

after example, Iraq and Afghanistan almost stand out as egregious examples of mismanaged

regime change. And as I argue in the article, it's not the regime change itself that's the problem.

I mean, we were right to go to Afghanistan and throw out the Taliban after 9-11. It's what we did

afterwards. The kind of attempt to create a nanny stayed over there. That really didn't work.

Yeah. And honestly, we're still really from that. And I believe it's weird because when I look at

what President Trump is getting in Dinesh, hopefully you can stick with me for another segment here.

Sure. But what we're seeing in Iran, I think a lot of people they look at, and this is why it was

so brilliant to write about this, they look at what happened in Afghanistan, they look at what

happened in Iraq, they coin these forever war, so in etc. But I'm like, okay, this is completely

different. President Trump has a track record. I love what he's doing with frankly what he's doing

doing with Iran right now, what he's done with Venezuela, how he's squeezing Cuba. And I believe

all of these are interconnected in making us the predominant force, the sole superpower in the

world, making sure we kick China, you know, make China look bad. And I think we're doing that.

But obviously people look at Afghanistan and Iraq and they're like, oh, we can't do that.

This isn't successful. But I'm like, this is a very short term modern day myopic view of regime

change, especially when you read this substack. And I got to say this, guys, I know this is an

older substack by Dinesh. Please read it and it will really change your worldview. It was written

on March 8, or at least published, but your response real quick in 30 seconds here at Dinesh.

Yeah, the Trump has learned the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan. And Trump is trying to debilitate

the power of Iran, which has been a menace for 50 years. If we get a peaceful pro-American,

prosperous Iran out of it, the benefits are almost incalculable. So all these guys would say this

isn't worth it. Don't understand that reshaping the texture of global politics very often is worth it.

Look at the cold war. Look at the benefits we got out of that.

All right. Here's something most people don't know. When Warren Buffett was just 13 years old,

he didn't put his money into a savings account. While other kids were earning next to nothing at

local banks, Buffett put $114 into a little known investment. Today, that $114 would be worth over

$15 million. And it wasn't a risky trade. It wasn't even insider knowledge. It was an account

that's been around since 1888. And over the last 25 years, it's averaged 29% a year.

That's what happens when your money is allowed to compound. Compare that to today's savings accounts,

paying less than half a percent while inflation quietly eats away at your buying power. Buffett

understood early, banks are great businesses, just not for savers. If you'd like to see what some

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to 9.com. Secretaccount29.com. Here's something most people don't know. When Warren Buffett was just

13 years old, he didn't put his money into a savings account. While other kids were earning

next to nothing at local banks, Buffett put $114 into a little known investment. Today,

that $114 would be worth over $15 million. And it wasn't a risky trade. It wasn't even

insider knowledge. It was an account that's been around since 1888. And over the last 25 years,

it's averaged 29% a year. That's what happens when your money is allowed to compound.

Compare that to today's savings accounts, paying less than half a percent while inflation quietly

eats away at your buying power. Buffett understood early, banks are great businesses, just not for

savers. If you'd like to see what some investors call the 29% account, go now to secretaccount29.com.

That's secretaccount, the numbers to 9.com. Secretaccount29.com.

Be back more with Danesh D'Souza on the other side. You are listening to The Carl Jackson Show.

All right, welcome back to The Carl Jackson Show. Again, I'm joined by my guests,

or with my guest, Danesh D'Souza. D'Souza, we're talking about regime change,

Trump style, but we're also talking about the current day conflict in Iran and how it's been

so successful. And frankly, it's annoying to me that so many people are putting it in the context

of Afghanistan and Iraq. When we're seeing stuff that I don't think, stuff that I haven't seen,

for sure, at least since I've been reading on politics, studying politics, reading back in history,

I love what President Trump has joined. I love the fact that the Western hemisphere, he's

strengthening to make us safer, but at the same time, he's both checking China and Russia,

making sure China isn't getting the sanctioned oil on the cheap with these ghost fleets and all

this kind of stuff. Danesh, just give us your take this far on what you've seen and this

conflict in Iran, your take on it. What do you think? How are we doing in your opinion?

I think that this is a spectacular example of a well-carried out military expedition both by the

United States and Israel. You know, I find it almost laughable the way people say things like,

Iran is winning the war and you go, well, what's the proof of that? Well, you know, they had one

missile that got through and landed near Jerusalem and like one guy lost his leg. I mean, like,

so here you have Israel, it's a country of 10 million, it's taking on Iran, a country of 90 million,

powerful country, oil rich, very sophisticated technologically, and this is unbelievably one-sided.

The Iranians can barely get anything off the ground. They got that one missile to Diego Garcia,

but even that didn't do any harm, so I've never seen a battle with a powerful country so lopsided.

I mean, I've seen lopsided battles, but countries like Grenada, but you're not, you're not,

Iran is not Grenada. Iran is one of the three big powers in the Middle East and it's been a

menace not just to the region, but to the world. You know, in the Civil War, if the Union Army

lost 3,000 troops and Robert E. Lee lost 2,500, people will go big victory for Lee because he

only lost 2,500. The other guys lost 3,000. You know, that's what, that's how war normally is.

They lose some and you lose a bunch too. You're just trying to lose a few less than they do,

but look at the lopsidedness here. We have almost no losses. And Iran as a power, as a serious power

is essentially incapacitated. So this has been achieved, I think, a tactically brilliant success.

Now it's true. Iran has sort of the propaganda weapons, which are partly facilitated by the fact

that the global left is on Iran's side. It's not just that they, you know, some people say,

well, they don't understand the conflict. They don't understand what's going on. They do understand.

They want Iran to win. They're looking for a big American loss. They would love to see Trump

humiliated. They can't openly say that. So they have to couch their rhetoric a little bit

differently, but that's their real aspiration and goal. You know, it's such a, it's such a great

point. And it's a scary thought. I mean, imagine a world where America wasn't, whether you like

Trump or not, where America wasn't the superpower. It seems to me, Denesh, that when it comes to the

left in America and perhaps worldwide, we've been so dumbed down that we don't understand what

communism does, what dictators do, what dictators really are. I mean, people call Trump a dictator

all the time. And then they have the no Kings protest in rallies. And I'm like, are we, I mean,

we're, we're so dumb, not we, but so many on the left are so, so dumb. It's just, it's, it's

crazy to me that they want to see America fall. And I think it's because perhaps they're not

religious, perhaps they haven't studied history. But I'm like, it would be a disaster for China

or a place like that to be the world's dominant superpower. Can you, can you kind of break that down?

Yeah, I think the left has come to agree ideologically with a lot of the slogans of the radical

Muslims. Let's look at what is one of the most common slogans coming out of Iran, right?

Sort of death to the West, death to America. America is the evil empire. America is the

found of evil in the world. Now, isn't this exactly what is taught in a lot of our schools and

colleges in the, in the left wing curriculum? That doesn't come from Iran. That's coming from

the left. But notice the close correspondence in the rhetoric. Now, the Muslims are doing it for

the reason of jihad. The left is doing it for the reasons of resistance, anti-colonialism.

But notice how the rhetoric has merged? The radical Muslims are like, wow, that's actually

some very clever talk coming from the left. We're going to start using it. So the Palestinians have

now become the resistance. You know, the Muslims realize that jihad is not really marketable

in America, but resistance is. And so you have this peculiar confluence of rhetorical strategy

between the mullahs on the one hand and the left. And then, of course, this peculiar late-comer

to the picnic, which is the Taka Carlson of the world, who are also falling into the same type

of rhetoric. And so you've got now this three pronged attack on traditional America,

the radical Muslims, number one, the left number two, and this sort of faction of the right,

number three. Man, I love that. So resistance, in essence, at least the word, is the new jihad.

Man, I mean, it's kind of cool. It's sad to think about, but it's true. A couple other points

when it comes to the Iranian conflict, Scott Besant, and I won't grab the audio for the sake of time,

but Scott Besant talked about unleashing Operation Economic Fury, which is what I absolutely,

I absolutely love. I mean, essentially, this U.S. naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz has

been crippling to Iran, and just a matter of days. And I got to be honest with you, Denash. I,

I mean, obviously I'm not in the White House. I am done with the negotiations, but President

Trump is a negotiator. I want to see the IRGC dead. I want to see the besiege dead. I want to see

the Iranian people free, because I think that ensures, frankly, that we won't have to spend

much more time or go back to the Middle East frequently. I agree with that goal. I think Trump

rightly calculates that if it's necessary to do a land invasion, that is probably a price that

we don't want to pay, that the American public will not support. But I do agree that this

economic fury, as you've described it, this is part of the real estate framework, because

in the end, Trump is making an economic calculation. And by the way, it should be said, it's a very

counterintuitive one, right? Because when the Iranians encircle the strait of hormones, and they

basically go, it's like the mafia, like we own Canal Street, right? Trump might be expected to say,

okay, we're going to come in there and bludgeon you and make you open the strait. And Trump goes,

no, you know what, we're going to put a bigger circle right around you. So nobody can get in,

and nobody can get out without our say so. And what Trump is really doing is he's recognizing

that if you don't get oil from the Middle East, you're going to have to get it from America of

Venezuela. And America and Venezuela are kind of in cahoots. So it puts the United States in the

bosses chair, the driver's seat of the oil market globally. And so Trump has in a strange way

rearranged the power structure of the oil market. And of course, you know, in the modern economy,

oil is the driving force of the global economy. So I think Trump is playing the big game here,

it involves Iran, but he's also looking at Russia, he's looking at the European dependency on oil,

Indian dependency on oil, and Chinese dependency on oil. I mean, I absolutely love it. They will

not give this guy crazy. I think he's going to go down as one of the best foreign policy

presidents ever. And I think they have to diminish as well the Secretary of War,

Pete Hexeth, because here's this guy that isn't a, I mean, he's an academic, but he wasn't a general.

This guy is just a war hero. And he is, I mean, he is kicking butt and taking names. So they will

not give him the credit that he deserves as well. You're take real quick, Danesh.

Yeah, I think Hexeth, you know, when he was first appointed, I was like, I was a little unsure.

But this guy has proven himself. Have you ever seen a savage take down a thune?

Never. And that tells you the food is flag the establishment game. So whenever I see a Trump guy

that is like in the in the in the forefront of attacks, I'm like, that guy's got to be doing

something right. Here's something most people don't know. When Warren Buffett was just 13 years old,

he didn't put his money into a savings account. While other kids were earning next to nothing

at local banks, Buffett put $114 into a little known investment. Today, that $114 would be worth

over $15 million. And it wasn't a risky trade. It wasn't even insider knowledge. It was an

account that's been around since 1888. And over the last 25 years, it's averaged 29% a year.

That's what happens when your money is allowed to compound. Compare that to today's savings accounts,

paying less than half a percent while inflation quietly eats away at your buying power.

Buffett understood early. Banks are great businesses, just not for savers. If you'd like to see

what some investors call the 29% account, go now to secretaccount29.com. That's secret account,

the numbers 2 9 dot com. Secret account 29 dot com. Here's something most people don't know.

When Warren Buffett was just 13 years old, he didn't put his money into a savings account.

While other kids were earning next to nothing at local banks, Buffett put $114 into a little

known investment. Today, that $114 would be worth over $15 million. And it wasn't a risky trade,

it wasn't even insider knowledge. It was an account that's been around since 1888. And over

the last 25 years, it's averaged 29% a year. That's what happens when your money is allowed to

compound. Compare that to today's savings accounts, paying less than half a percent while inflation

quietly eats away at your buying power. Buffett understood early. Banks are great businesses,

just not for savers. If you'd like to see what some investors call the 29% account,

go now to secretaccount29 dot com. That's secret account, the numbers 2 9 dot com.

Secret account 29 dot com. Okay, you were probably depressed just like I was as soon as the net

said that. But that is an excellent point. The net, I want to be respectful of your time. I love

to keep you one last segment. But if you can't, I totally understand. I just want to talk about

this gubernatorial race and what we see from Mamm Danny and the Virginia governor. Do you have time

or not? Carl, let's do it another time. Let's pause on this one. And we'll just we schedule and do

like round two. Okay, all right. Sounds good. Listen, it's always a pleasure speaking to Denash

de Susa. And I will get into what's happening in California. I will get into Mamm Danny and the

Virginia governor that wants to get rid of the electoral college real quick. Again, Denash,

where can people go to find you? Follow me on X at Denash de Susa. Look for my film The Dragon

Prophecy. It's on YouTube. It's also on it's also on Apple iTunes and Amazon Prime. Okay,

I appreciate it. Denash de Susa, always a pleasure to have you on. God bless you, man.

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If you elect Democrats in November of 2026, if you elect Democrats in November of 2028,

there's not going to be you're not going to have big tax returns. There's going to be I've been

trying to figure out a way to frame this. If you elect Democrats, if we don't have victory in 2026,

you won't have justice, you won't have wealth, you won't have peace. So I'm writing this down as I

go. No justice, no wealth, no peace. And I'm going to tell you what I mean. For one, let's talk about

Eric's wall. Well, again, no justice, no wealth, no peace. So Eric's wall well. And we'll play the

video. We'll play cuts later. But Eric's wall well. Let's, I mean, this guy is going down in

flames. His political career is absolutely over. He won't have a comeback. As a matter of fact,

it's likely, I think at this point, if these allegations from these victims pan out, that the

guy can spend some time in jail and should, if in fact, that these, in fact, if these allegations

are correct, but I want you to understand what happened. If you elect Democrats, no justice,

no wealth, no peace, everybody knows that Democrats knew about this guy's problem. I play the clip

for you. I believe it was earlier in the week where a former speaker of the house, Kevin McCarthy

said, this guy, if you knew his history, and I doubt that Kevin McCarthy knew all that,

he would not be able to get security clearance in the private sector, let alone the government

sector, right? Let, let alone the Intel, the Intel committee, which he was on, which Nancy Pelosi

put him in, put him on. Here's something most people don't know. When Warren Buffett was just 13

years old, he didn't put his money into a savings account. While other kids were earning next to

nothing at local banks, Buffett put $114 into a little known investment. Today, that $114

would be worth over $15 million, and it wasn't a risky trade, it wasn't even insider knowledge.

It was an account that's been around since 1888, and over the last 25 years, it's averaged 29%

a year. That's what happens when your money is allowed to compound. Compare that to today's savings

accounts, paying less than half a percent, while inflation quietly eats away at your buying power.

Buffett understood early, banks are great businesses, just not for savers. If you'd like to see

what some investors call the 29% account, go now to secretaccount29.com. That's secret account,

the numbers 2 9 dot com. Secret account 29 dot com. Here's something most people don't know.

When Warren Buffett was just 13 years old, he didn't put his money into a savings account.

While other kids were earning next to nothing at local banks, Buffett put $114 into a little

known investment. Today, that $114 would be worth over $15 million, and it wasn't a risky trade,

it wasn't even insider knowledge. It was an account that's been around since 1888, and over

the last 25 years, it's averaged 29% a year. That's what happens when your money is allowed to

compound. Compare that to today's savings accounts, paying less than half a percent, while inflation

quietly eats away at your buying power. Buffett understood early, banks are great businesses,

just not for savers. If you'd like to see what some investors call the 29% account,

go now to secretaccount29.com. That's secret account, the numbers 2 9 dot com.

Secret account 29 dot com. We're Nancy Pelosi to say, we're Ruben Gaiegel. That's another one

that they're going after now. This senator who was apparently his best friend and shared living

space with him in Washington, DC. There's no way this guy didn't know. I want to make sure that I'm

that I'm mentioning the correct guy. Senator Gaiegel, the Arizona Democrat,

longtime buddy in roommate to Swalwell. He's trying to defend himself saying he heard the accused

rapist was flirty. There's no way that that's your roommate, and that's all that you've heard.

That's all that you've known. It's obvious that Eric Swalwell has a big mouth, so he was saying,

talking a lot of, talking a lot of smack. Quite frankly, you saw the video with the independent

journalist whose name escapes me right now of Eric Swalwell, just speaking openly in a bar,

talking about what he likes to do with tens as in rating women tens, it's bored of his wife,

so on, et cetera. This was out loud and in public. Imagine what this guy is capable of behind doors,

but even more so, the left that claims to be the left that spearheaded the Me Too movement and all

this kind of stuff isn't an amazing that they're not concerned about women's rights. I mean,

obviously with this trans movement that they support, they don't care about women's rights.

The fact that they were willing to hide Eric Swalwell's transgressions for over a decade,

it's clear to me that they don't care about justice. It's clear to me that they don't care

about women. It's clear to me that they don't care about you, but it's also clear to me that they

care about power. So if you happen to be a Democrat, if you happen to be in a middle, just understand

these people will lie to you, they do not care about you whatsoever. No peace. We have this

California governor, a gubernatorial candidate, Tom Steyer, that is stepped up to the plate now,

and right now he appears to be leading in the polls in California. This is exactly why the left

kneecapped. This is why they kneecapped Eric Swalwell and think about this. Guys, Eric Swalwell is

a dirt bag. The left didn't care. They knew all of this stuff, and I guarantee you, they kept a

list, right? Like that, like that old show, The House of Cards, they kept a list of his transgressions

in case they needed to use it against him. He wouldn't get out of the California governor's race.

You had, you had, oh Lord, Steve Hilton and Chad Biankel, two Republicans that were elevating

in the race, and those two would have been in a runoff. So what did they have to do? They had to

consolidate the race. As I mentioned before, in our earlier podcasts, they had to kneecaps

Swalwell, and they had to hand the race to Tom Steyer, who's a billionaire in all into, this guy

is all into green energy, but it's made a lot of money off a coal, a completed nut or hypocrite,

and a nut case. So now, Tom Steyer had to bribe Arthur, now top holding Democrat for California,

has unveiled his radical open door and anti-ice immigration platform. So I want you to know that Tom

Steyer says he's going to put illegal immigrants in front of American citizens in California,

and you're going to get to pay for it. So the hedge fund billionaire, who was doing really bad,

the media obviously targeted Swalwell, and I'm reading from the bright part to revitalize a

democratic field in the governor's race. They released his immigration pledges with the

five point plan that is more left wing and radical than the current governor. I don't know if I,

but honestly, I don't know that I believe that the plan sounds more left wing, but what makes Gavin

new something so dangerous is I don't think he has any core convictions whatsoever. I think the

guy will do whatever the left wants in order to sustain power, but you have the 68-year-old founder

of this capital management, that's a radical environmentalist. And again, this guy made tons

of money on coal, but he's in the green energy for the sake of, he's such a fraud. So his

immigration plan includes the abolishment of ICE in California with attempt to jail ICE agents

and their superiors, who he says he thinks they're breaking the rules. Okay, so illegal immigration,

illegal immigration, crime, California citizens, you're going to get to compete against

illegals or continue to compete against illegal aliens in your state when it comes to resources,

when it comes to housing affordability. He's going to put them first before he puts you there.

He also thinks he has the power as a governor to go to foreign countries,

gather up people who have deported, who the Trump administration has deported and bring them back.

He doesn't have that power. He says he's going to ignore the Supreme Court. Guys, if we don't

have, if we don't have, if we're not a nation of laws, we're not a nation. You guys on the left

will call Donald Trump a dictator, we'll call him a tyrannical. Guys, this is insane. This is insane.

This is a guy that's saying, listen, I'm going to break all the rules, but I got to get to this.

You won't have justice, you won't have peace. You're going to have all these protesters in the street

causing violence, calling for violence. That's what you're going to see. You think things are

going to get better under the, under a democratic administration. All you have to do is look at

Mamdanny, grocery city-owned grocery stores. They're taking longer to build and twice as much money

to make and you're going to pay for them. Tax payers are going to pay for them. So now,

tax payers are going to pay for the city-owned grocery stores while they still have to shop

for their groceries at another store. You're going to have a government that is competing

with private businesses. Private businesses can't compete with government because there's an

infinite amount of money. So what's going to happen? You're going to have shortages because these

other stores are going to go out of business. You're going to have shortages and the government

run grocery store. You're not going to get a lot of savings, but you're going to have a shortage

of products. That's how it's going to work and a lot of people are going to lose their jobs.

This is what the Democrats, you're not going to have justice, you're not going to have peace.

We heard about what's happening with the new report chose Biden officials,

New York COVID-19 vaccines. We now know, or we knew for quite some time, that the whole Eric

Cheremello or whatever his name is, the guy that helped, he and Adam Schiff, that helped

speargate this, the Ukraine impeachment hearing. This guy was a second or third here, say,

witness, if you will, with this quid pro quo with Ukraine, which was a complete and utter lie.

So now Tulsi Gabbard has released that. And now you have this, the Democrat governor Abigail

Spanberger in Virginia, who is now saying that she's going to rid the state of the electoral

college. As a matter of fact, she has signed a bill to rid Virginia of the electoral college.

So Virginia governor, what is who is this from? This is from Washington Examiner. So Virginia will

award its presidential electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote under a bill

signed into law by Abigail Spanberger this week, marking a significant shift in how the state

participates in presidential elections. Now, this is part of a pack. The measure enters

Virginia into the national popular vote interstate compact. That is an agreement among states to

allocate their electoral votes to whichever candidate wins the most votes across all 50 states.

So if a Republican wins the state of Virginia, but loses the popular vote in all 50 states,

governor Spanberger is saying she will not allocate those electoral points to the Republican that

won the state. If indeed a Republican does, she'll reward them to whomever the popular vote

winner goes to now. They're not going to be able to do this right away. The goal of this this

pack, this popular vote interstate compact pack is to make sure that they can all get to a point

where they can leverage the 270 electoral college votes that is needed to win the presidency.

And when they do, they're going to flip it and make it a popular vote. Well, Carl, shouldn't it be

a popular vote? No, it shouldn't be a popular vote because look at what these leftists do.

They have intentionally flooded blue states with illegal immigrants so that they could get more

funding so that they can get more representation in the in the House of Representatives and so that

they can retain their power. So these people and they can keep them dependent upon welfare.

Remember the stats that I gave you last week about all these illegal immigrants that are on

welfare. That's what the Democrats want to do. Keep them in perpetual poverty so they'll vote for

them. You don't think all these illegals, 15, 20 million that came into the country under the

Biden administration won't vote Democrat. You got to be kidding me. Guys, until next time,

don't worry. We're doing good. God bless you.

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you know, in this in this political atmosphere. But long term, this is going to be much better

for the American people, much better for energy prices and energy prices will come back down.

There's no doubt about that. We get this resolved. Energy prices will come back down. That doesn't

stop your pain today. And I'm not minimizing it because trust me, when I go to fill up, it hurts.

And I have to make decisions that I'm not going to buy this or I'm going to budget for this. So

I'm doing the same thing that you're doing. But I'm also looking at the larger perspective. We

were left to mess after the Biden administration left office, not just domestically, but around the

globe. And we're trying to regain that strength, if you will. So anyway, I do appreciate you guys

being out there and tuning in to the and tuning into the program. All right. Any comments out there?

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