Who Mourns for Morn

0:00Hello everyone, welcome to the Delta Flyers, journey through the wormhole with quark, dax and their good friends, Tom and Harry. Join us as we make our way through episodes of Star Trek Deep Space Nine. Your hosts for today are my fellow Trek actors, Armin, Shimmerman, Garrett Wong and myself, Robert, Duncan, McNeill. How are you guys? I know you're all right, every time that you say you're making a birthday, you can make a meal. That's how you should enter any set that you walk into. Yes, I don't remember this. Yes, only a rolled ours. Is it the only way to go, man? I like your hat, Armin, Grumpy Old Man Club. Thank you. Thank you. It was started by my good friend, Peter Van Norton, who passed away a couple of weeks ago and last night we had dinner with his widow and it was very nice. Oh, so you've got the hat in honor of Peter? Actually, yes and no.

1:00I actually am wearing the hat in honor of Greg Itzen. Oh, yes, Greg Itzen. And when we get into this episode, one of my closest friends along with Peter, but Greg and I were very, very, very, very close. Wow. Okay. I love Greg. For very talented actor. Oh my God. Wonderful human being. No, no, not a wonderful human being. But fun human being to be around. Yes, yes. Yes. Very dry, very sarcastic. Yes. But an incredible actor. Yes, incredible actor. Hey, we have some birthdays. We got to go through. Yes, we do. Here we go. September 16th. Cade Salisbury. That is Cade's birthday. Happy, happy, happy birthday to Cade. Happy birthday Cade. Many happy returns. Happy birthday Cade. Have a great day. Michelle Fox on September 18th. Happy birthday, Michelle. Happy birthday, Michelle. Happy, happy birthday, Michelle Fox. Next up we have Mike Chow on September 19th.

2:01Happy birthday, Mike. Happy birthday, Mike. Happy birthday, Mike. We also have Samantha Wettel on September 20th. Happy birthday, Samantha. Happy birthday, Samantha. Happy birthday, Samantha Wettel. Hey, Gary, you know what I did this morning? What? I used an app called 11 Reader to listen to a script while I drove to work. A script that I'm prepping to direct. So you uploaded a PDF to the app. And you were able to hear it while you're driving to... That's a game changer, Robbie. Yeah, it's incredible. You can upload your own content like PDFs, docs, you know, fan fiction, whatever you want. Or you can listen to best selling audio books with super realistic voices. It was incredible. I had Bert Reynolds read my script. How would you compare this to other reading apps that are out there? Oh, I've tried them. I've tried the other apps and you can pay 15 bucks a month. You get one credit, one book. Or you could use 11 Reader where they've got... Over 200,000 premium titles. They've got all the best sellers. You know, they've got a free plan that packs incredible value and an ultra subscription

3:03for only $11 a month. So you start with a free 10 hours of your own content or you can upgrade to ultra for 11 bucks a month in unlock unlimited uploads plus 20 hours of premium audio books every month. That's amazing. 11 bucks, it sounds like you're getting more and you're paying less than the others. Yes. And you get Bert Reynolds to read to you. Hey, who's going to argue with that? Back out 11 Reader, use promo code podcast. That's P-O-D-C-A-S-T and get your first two months for only $1. Poetry synopsis. Let's start with Robbie's Limerick and then my ex. Yes. Yes, here we go. Here is my Limerick. For who mourns? For mourn? Hmm. Quark said that mourn loved to chatter. We go on about nothing that mattered. Where's his Latinum? Where's the cash? More never discussed his stash, but he spit up some Latinum gray matter. Excellent. Excellent.

4:04I'm doing this. I'm going to do this. Oh my God. That's great. Wow. So what I do is I don't read Robbie's poetry synopsis before I do this. And even if it's on screen, I look away. I have worked my gaze. Is it just as I was watching? It was so much over me and it's always a, I got to give you a golf clap on that one. Very funny, buddy. Very good. No, thank you. Yes. He spit up the gray matter. Yeah. I had no idea that's what Latinum looked like. No. I didn't know it was encased in the gold. The worth, the funny, the gold is pretty. Gold is pretty. Yes. No. Yes. But I thought, I don't know, for some reason, I put all the value in the gold because of, you know, I'm a human being on this planet right now and gold is worth a lot. So that's my mistake. It's gray liquid. Latinum. It's very valuable. Almost looks like mercury. You know, in the bottom of the thermometer kind of a thing. So it may have been what was in there. It was a mercury. It just put mercury in there.

5:04All right. Here's my haiku for who mourns for mourn. Moorn's will. All to quark. For more one piece of pie. One barf's Latinum. Yeah. I see you guys have a theme here. I didn't read yours either. No, that's great. I love it when it washes over Robbie as well. So that was great. We're on the same page. Yes, we are. And before we go any further, let us give credit. Yeah. Credit us do. Mark Allen Shepard who plays mourn. Yes. Yes. Of course. Mark was and he got to appear on camera. We'll talk about it when we get there, but without the makeup. Yes, it's an angel. Yes, absolutely. It's an angel. Yes, it was great. Well, Arman, can you give us a little etymology? Etymology. Sure. I had that for breakfast. So the word mourn with you is from the common tutonic and old English mounan, M-u-r-n-a-n,

6:04mounan. Or from the old high German mornan, M-o-r-n-e-n. The word might come from the old Norwegian root syllable m-e-r. So that's a syllable, which means to die in Norwegian, in old Norwegian. So that definitions one, to feel sorrow, grief, or regret. However, in the old English, the word meant more to be anxious or careful. That's what the original meaning was. It was first used in English in 888 in the year 888. Wow. Old English word. And also that's one of the oldest that you've talked about in terms of its roots. Yeah. When a thousandage is pretty much as far past as I've gone, I just beats that. Second definition, to utter lamentations for someone. And I'm going to give you a quote that I found wasn't an 888, but it wasn't 1533. But any Christian prayer is when any man prays and mourns invertible in his heart to

7:05God for his help. So that's mourn with you. The second word is mourn, m-o-r-n, which is not only a name, of course, but it is the abbreviation for the word mourning. And the word mourn, by itself, without the ING at the end, comes from, again, common to tonic and old English morgan. We're all familiar with that as far as German. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. The beginning of the day, dawn sunrise, first used in 1077 in the poem, Bae Wolf. Oh, wow. The word mourn is first used in Bae Wolf. Wow. Which we had an episode kind of based on Bae Wolf and Voyager. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah. It's also m-o-r-n, mourn's name. Yes. It is a joke on Norm from Cheers. Yes. Scrammel letters up a little bit. Scrammel letters. And if I can give you a little bit of background, which is just trivial, but David Livingston, they'll love with the character mourn and put him in a very visible spot in the first

8:10season of Deep Space Nine. And then he just became part of the bar, you know? Yeah. And he didn't have a name. He wasn't called mourn. That just became an injoke for all of us that because he was always in the bar. We call him that mourn. Right. And then eventually, look at this. He has an episode named after him. And I forgive me, Mark, but for many years, I said to Mark, you need to go to the union because they're treating you and paying you like your background. And you have your own name, you have your own action for your dog. You are a character that is referred to often in our show. You are not background. Yeah. You are a principal. But he never took advantage of that. He was probably afraid that if he complained, they would just write him out. Exactly. He may be right. They may have done that. And what you're saying to us is that Mark owes all of that focus or that attention spotlight to David Livingston. David is the one who first put him in that corner.

9:11And he just saw him on the first time we shot in the bar as background and just love the makeup and stuck him right there in the front. So when he was stuck in the front, he didn't even have a name at that point. Am I correct? He wasn't that was just later. Okay. I mean, he was there so often you have to refer to him. Yes. So that's the background on his character. I love it. We have another background person who was my stand in. It's the Ferengy waiter that you see throughout the episode. And they give him a name. I think this is the first time we actually broke. Break. Break. Break. And he starts off the episode. You start the episode with David Broik walking across. Yeah. And panning over with him. And they did give him a line, but not in this episode. Yeah. I think that, you know, if background actors are very important, we've talked about that. They're very important in storytelling and having background actors who can do that job as an actor and perform the circumstances of the scene and what's going on.

10:14It's very important. They were part of the family. Exactly. They're part of the family. And in my case, I owed a great deal today. David would do the camera blocking because he was a stand in. And he would relate to me everything that they did. I was ahead of the curve because of David's communication with me. That's great. That's awesome. We have some Patreon submitted poetry who starts us off, Karen. Let's start off with Tim McMitchens, his numeric. Here we go for who will mourn for mourn. Their once was a lurian named mourn, reported deceased, sad and worn. Quark got quite the shock when the thieves formed a flock and came calling for treasure longborn. He went out the corpse was a ruse. mourn had Latinum to lose so he hit it away in himself so they say then strolled back in with no bruise. Oh wow. Wow. Actually, that is excellent. He did a double, a double directly. He went on and then flew the first. Two levers. Yeah.

11:14Golf clap. Wow. Okay. Very good. Alright. We've also got a haiku submitted by Jay Fernos. And that is mourn is killed so sad. The greedy come for his wealth in the end. mourn wins. Great. Great. Great. There you go. And again, listen to the poetry. This is not a background layer. No. No, it really isn't. Really isn't. Okay. This episode is written by Mark Gerard O'Connell, directed by Victor Noble. A star is Greg Rietson as we spoke about him earlier as Hane, Brad Greenquist, as Critt, Bridget and White as Laurel, Cyril O'Riley as NOSC. And let's just throw in Mark Allen Shepherd as more. I'm going to throw him in there because he deserves it. Yeah. Absolutely. Victor Noble is an old friend of mine. I had done many episodes of another show called Beauty in the Beast where Victor was one of the two if I remember correctly.

12:14There's the directed that show which went on for about three seasons with Ron Pearlman and Linda Hamilton. So it was great fun to be working with Victor again. Yeah, he did a great job. I, well, no. I'm going to do it. Yeah. We're going to do it. Hold it. Hold it. Now. I forgot. I forgot. Yes. We'll get into it. This episode, a little bit of trivia here, this episode was nominated for an Emmy award for Outstanding Makeup for a series for Michael Westmore. Mark Garrett O'Connell's original idea for this episode involved mourn mysteriously disappearing from the station and the rest of the cast trying to hunt him down. They realize that although they have all known him for six years, none of them actually know very much about him. Renee Ishaveria removed the detective aspect from the story and introduced the characters of Hane, Critt, LaRelle and Nosc. That's an interesting initial approach, I suppose. He's just missing mysteriously.

13:15Do you think either of you do you think that would have worked better in a way for the story? I think it would have. And I can't help thinking because I know what the next episode is, which was a lot of work for Avery Brooks. I think they needed to take whatever, to take the onus of work off of him for this episode so that he could prepare for the next one. Okay. Did he direct the next one or just acting in it? Both. Oh boy. I mean, he was, he was, it's a, I don't know if you've seen it yet or not, but no, it is absolutely our favorite, the one we are most proud of. Wow. I've heard that. I know the title of the next episode and I've got it. It's the only title I've heard about a thousand times. Everyone talks about it. So I'm excited. Let's start our story. Shall we begin? Let's begin. Well, we started with Brooks. We started with, we started with Breik moving through the bar. Yes. And as he passes through, we see Oto come in and step up to Morn who's sitting at the

14:17bar in his usual spot. Oto tells Morn that he's got to move his beats, his shipment of Levonian beats that are sitting in cargo bay three. They've been there two weeks. They're starting to rot, he says. And Morn takes a sip of his drink, but doesn't look at Oto. And I immediately was like, what's going on? Why is he not looking at him? I was very strange. I thought it was a bad acting choice, but it turns out that he's a hologram. He's not, he's not real. He's even the cheap hologram because Quark didn't want to splurge for a talking hologram. Yeah, talking hologram. Neither did the producers. No. So Quark says Morn is way on business and he's very good for business. So he's got this hologram to keep him there because people like it when Morn sitting at the bar, kind of like the writers of DS9 like it when Morn sitting at the bar. But they didn't want to pay for the expensive actor like Quark didn't want to pay for the expensive hologram. Yeah. We do have a cross from Bersier who walks into the bar and says, low Morn and doesn't

15:20even realize he's a hologram because that's a comfort thing for him too. But yeah, Morn is good for business. So he's got this hologram. That's when Cisco and DAX arrived very serious when they walk in. And we learned that Morn's ship got caught in an eye on storm and Morn is dead. How did you react, Robbie? When he saw all that part that scene. What was, did you? I thought he can't be dead because I feel like he's on the whole series. So I feel like that was, we're going to have a story that he's not really dead. Okay. That was my first thought. You know, yes, that's indicative of this whole episode. Yes. I will say, and I'm going to not bury the lead here. Armin, normally I'm a big Firingi story fan. I often, they're my favorite episodes. In fact, we just talked about one recently that I think was maybe my highest rated episode. This is not. And it's not because it's a Firingi episode. Part of it's the writing. It just feels like, I feel like I'm ahead of the story or I'm just waiting for something

16:24new to happen. Nothing. It's all old tropes. You know, I'm getting into it. It's just old tropes. Let's move on to something. There's a war going on for God's sakes. What is this doing there? Yeah. And I will be honest, I think the tropes could have worked and the kind of slapstick comedy, which is in the writing a bit. I don't think it's the best writing. So that's why I don't think it's the best written episode. But it's also the execution. And I know it's not the actors because you can do it. I know the rest of the cast. These actors are good actors. It's the direction. It was not paced. I felt like it needed to be tightened up constantly. Every scene should have been five times faster. And it would have been funny because there was some funny stuff there, but it wasn't funny because it was landing so slowly in my mind. And the tone was kind of missed, I think. And that was not the actor's job. Ton is not actor's job. That's people watching like the director, you know, should be looking for that. Anyway, yeah, not I feel like this could have been a better episode.

17:26I still don't think I would have rated it as like one of my favorites. It could have been a lot better, but yeah, that's my thoughts. Yeah, I just seem like the script is not completed. Okay. Questions? There we go. Let's go through it because there's a lot of great stuff to talk about. There is a lot of great stuff. So we cut to the promenade, Bishir Miles are heading to the memorial. We learned that everybody makes an offering. That's the tradition of what is his, his species called. Lurian. Lurian. Yeah, Lurian tradition. They need to offer a gift that they can use in the afterlife. Very Egyptian. Yes. Yeah, very Egyptian. Drums. Dax is there. She's super sad. We learn for the first time she had a crush on him, but he wasn't interested. No, no, we heard it before. We have. Yes. She talked about like, wow, I think Warren's real cute. Now, she says like I like those five hairs coming out of his head and the forehead. So she talked about him before in an early episode.

18:26But this is like a story. She's referencing. Like how she had a deep crush and he wasn't interested and rejected her and Wurf is totally in shock about. Wurf is the only person that doesn't know that she had a crush. Everyone else who's watched the show would definitely know that. But was very jealous too. Yes, he's super funny. I love that scene. I love that interaction. But what I did not know was that Morn was Wurf's sparring partner. That to me shocked the bejesus out of me because I kept thinking, he's pretty much glued to that corner of that bar. Wouldn't he have time to go spar? But still, it's a cool little, I guess, backstory or factoid. I think that's the whole joke is they talk about how fascinating and interesting this character is. Yes. In so many ways. That's part of it then. Yeah. And then, yeah, all we ever see is him sitting there with speechless at the bar. Right. Well, Odo brings a bottle opener. He says, maybe he can use it in the afterlife. I thought that was funny. There's a lot of fun. There's a clever, very clever. Yes.

19:27The clever jokes in here, they just don't land as comedy because the tone is not quite right. Right. But they are on paper. They're funny jokes. Yeah. We cut inside a quark, and we see the bar is piled with food and drinks. There's a portrait of Morn on the bar. And Quark tells, tells, are you talking to Broik here? I think I'm talking to the four, three other, uh, Frankie Wayser, Broik being one of them. That's right. You're talking to the wait staff. You tell them, uh, if they don't have a gift to sell them some Euridian ale because that that was Morn's favorite drink. So. And that's dubious whether or not it was or not. Yes. Exactly. Not only do you tell them, but then, uh, well, Wharf comes in still confused about the DAX and Morn thing and DAX has like, drop it. So they're getting into a TIF off camera about him being jealous, which is funny. Quark makes a big speech here about Morn, a very heartfelt speech. I'm not so sure it was heartfelt. It was a difficult thing to factor.

20:28It was a difficult thing. The theatrical it was, yes. Um, it was a difficult, uh, because as I watched the scene, the speech, I'm thinking, was I think that this was a comic episode and, and it really has no feelings for Morn and is trying to be heartfelt, uh, or was I trying to be heartfelt and I failed. I really don't remember from the responses of the others, which I knew nothing about. Um, uh, they seem to think that I was heartfelt. So then I wish I could go on. I wish somebody had said, which is it, is it, is it a comic pastiche or is it me just, uh, uh, really heartfelt? But then we have the moment after the speech and I think, well, then must have been comic. So. It's, that's part of the writing flaw, I think, is it wasn't clear where, what Quark's point of view was. Yeah. It wasn't clear and it should have been crystal clear. And I think it could, you could have played both values. You could have played very heartfelt about it, but every opportunity to make some money

21:31turns into the comic that if that had been sharpened and, and clearer, I think it would have worked, but it was a little bit mush in the middle with Kira and Odo with the reaction shots and, and they're saying, well, wow, he's, he's really moving us. Yeah. I went, one, I don't think my speech was actually doing that. And two, when did they feel this close to Quark before? You know, I understand that there have been some references recently, but, but it just didn't make sense to me. Yeah. Well, isn't it at the end of the speech that you physically grab Mark Allen Shepherd, who was a bejorin and placed him in the chair? Yeah, that's the gag. That's the gag. Yeah. But nobody knows that. No one knows that. That's just for us on this set. Yeah. The bejorin that I put in Warn's chair is Mark Allen Shepherd plays more and I say keep this chair warm and, and he does. And again, speechless.

22:31But I love your line, Quark's line, keep it warm for the more and which is such a, it's like a campaign slogan almost. It's like so wonderfully compact. Yeah, he tells everyone in the crowd, don't ever let this chair be empty. Yeah. And then seats Mark Allen Shepherd into the chair. He always sits in so lots. And then he goes and cuddles a dabo girl, a dabo girl named Kathy Bono. Yes. Who is Terry's double, who's Terry standing. Oh, yes. And she to it at the end of the season when Broick gets a line, Kathy will get a line. Oh, good. Robbie, yes. A little bit and arm and a little bit of extra trivia. I, Megan and I were watching a true crime documentary and Kathy Dubuano's name came up in there. There, yes, there was a gentleman, I don't want to call him a gentleman. There was an individual in Los Angeles that had tried to be a restaurant tour and had it completely, you know, went through three or four restaurants, kept failing. And then he started passing himself off as a Hollywood production executive to different

23:36women that he would approach in the mall, whatever. And here's my card. You've got to come over. We're going to do a quick test with you and have you put you on camera, all this stuff praying on women who have the dreams of becoming a star in Los Angeles. And Kathy Dubuano was one of the people that he tried to get. Kathy was smart enough to bring someone with her to the actual meeting point. And when he saw that there was a gentleman, there was a man with Kathy, this guy ran. He just took off and just disappeared. But he did after after Kathy did catch somebody else, brought him to whatever location he had asked her to show up to and proceeded to kill her, murder her. So oh my gosh. It's okay. Is he good for her bringing? Yeah. Yes. Yes, she could have been a statistic as well. But she wasn't. Anyway, side trivia. Well, at the, at the end of this scene, Cisco comes in. He says sorry to him true. I think you should know something, Quark. I unsealed Morton's will and he left you everything.

24:38And that's it for Avery. That's it. It goes off the top. Because he has a lot of work. Yes. Really, he's got a lot of work planning for the next episode. Yes. And we do end with a two shot of Mark Allen Juppard and the portrait on the bar. I don't know if you noticed that, but Victor did shoot a two shot of that, which I thought was clever. Oh, yeah. But I show that scene to Kitty. Do you know what the joke is here? And she watched it and she said, what's funny about that? And she didn't, and she was on the set. I know she had Mark. She had no, so no idea. If Kitty doesn't recognize the joke, you know, who's going to recognize the joke? Only the fans that read the trivia and study the behind the scenes would know that. Yeah. Or the fans listening to this podcast. And now everybody listening to this podcast. They're good. I know. We go to the security office next, Odo hands Quark, the full inventory of, of Morton's possessions. And we learn that Morn is broke and Quark is in shock. He has nothing. Morn has absolutely. And he has a bar bill he has to pay.

25:40Yes. And, and Odo does say at the end, well, maybe his assets are all tied up in inventory. Quark got a little hope. Yes. Maybe it's inventory. So they go to the cargo bay and all we see are those stinky beats that Odo mentioned in the first scene. They're rotten. Right? I think they're rotten. Yeah. I did like the special effects with the smoke coming out as yeah. Yeah. It was like that's those are like the bacteria spores or whatever. Yeah. It was just popping out every time. The perfect level of stinky smoke. Yeah. But those beats aren't going to pay a bar bill. So then Odo says, well, maybe he's got, you know, spin all his money on furniture or art in his quarters. Yes. Yes. Let's go look in his quarters. So off we go. Why is Odo doing this? I don't know. I mean, I watched it and thought, why is he doing this? Is it just a plot point to get, you know, Mike Eric? It's somebody to deliver. Yeah. But I just think, why is he doing this?

26:43Is this is this gleeful for Odo? Is this just something he has to do because he's required? And again, you know, is it out of friendship? Who knows? That was just a choice. I went, Renee, what's your choice here? What's your choice? And I just didn't see a choice except that this is what the paper said. You know, when I was watching my angle, at least what I thought was, I thought in a way he was toying with you could be. Yeah. In terms of, we all have seen Odo always on top of the pulse of the station knowing everything that goes on. So I kind of felt like he knew the bigger picture. And he just wanted to see you squirm in a way. It just, you know, just kind of like, he didn't play that. I agree with you, Gare. And I, and I, watching the episode, I thought, this is what he should have done, what you just described. Yeah. But I didn't see that. And most of the time I'm in awe of Renee's work, it just seemed less than Renee like that I get right here. Well, I did get a little, it was very subtle to me, but I did feel like he was giving

27:45me that a little bit. That's where I went. Yeah. All right. Well, we see Quark in a quarter. He's very happy. He's going to auction off all of more and stuff at a premium because everybody loves more and so much. So he's excited. The door's open to more and quarters and there's nothing but a hot tub and a madador painting on the wall. Sorry. What? It's like, it's like dogs playing poker. It's kind of trope. Although didn't, more than bought the painting, they auctioned in the other episodes. Yes, Robby. You caught it. That's from earlier. Yeah. That's the one thing he bought. That's the only thing he has on the wall. Eight years under station and that's all he has. Oh, yeah. And a hot tub. A hot tub with mud. Yes. Pink is a pink mud, a pinkish mud. Pinkish mud. Pinkish mud. Yeah. No computer. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. That's it. So auto leaves and suddenly a naked girl pops up from under the water. What?

28:45How'd she hold her breath that long by the way? That's what I thought. Well, she's a real alien species. I'm asking how the human actor, actress kept. Oh, you're okay. Because you can validate, I mean, you can corroborate with an alien, but as a human, you're right. I'm going. How long did she have to be underwater? Yeah, mindful. My thought process. I'm not long. I'm not long. I'm not long. The makeup stood up to whatever she was, you know, stood up and yet was still wet. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. We know that Morn has two stomachs. I felt that this alien had four lungs in order for her to stay in your mouth. So long. Yeah, she pops up. We learn her name is L'Harell. It's Morn's ex-wife. We're so she claims. She's very flirty with you, Armand. Very flirty. Yeah. Very flirty. Just that little bit of lurian culture that we learn here that that is not a hot tub, but indeed his bed. That's where he sleeps. That's how he sleeps. Yeah, in the mud. In the mud. Interest as Odo sleeps in a bucket.

29:47Yes. Well, this naked girl pops up. She says she's Morn's ex-wife. She's very flirty. She says that Morn has a retirement fund. So after Quark has, you know, hit a dead end on all these other spots. This is good news for him. It's a thousand bricks of gold pressed platinum. And then she lifts her leg up. And I thought, oh, she must be a dancer. She's actually an opera singer. Oh, is she really? Oh, wow. Cool. Yeah, she seemed like theater savvy. She's very performance in her, just, yes, the physicality of it all. It felt like she was a theater. I think the actors on a hole in this episode were very theater savvy and a little too much for a TV. There was more theater than it was TV. Oh, yeah, at times I agree with you. Did that pull you guys out a bit a bit when you pulled me out? It pulled me out. I went lovely for the stage.

30:48Just not going to work on the camera. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I felt a bit more pre-scientical. The theatrical look. The theatrical little too much. Yeah. Like the leg lift, I didn't think you needed the leg lift at the end. It was enough that Snicket Woman stands up basically. And that certainly has to be Victor. It couldn't have been Miss White. So that certainly had to be a directorial choice. Yeah. And I'm also guessing when that reverse shot, when she kind of rises up, she has to have some pasties or something. Oh, absolutely. She's not going to just let her. Yeah. It's my wife would not allow otherwise. Yeah. We also do find out that the thousand bricks of gold according to LaRelle was won by Morn in the Lisepian lottery. That's the first indication of where this gold, sorry, the land of the country. The first story. Yes, the first story we hear. Yes. We're going to hear a lot of stories. Oh boy. We come back a little later. Quark is draining the hot tub. And LaRelle says she's now dressed, by the way. She says that the thousand bricks are on the ship somewhere and she tries a little umox

31:53to get him to go along with her plan. He says all the thousand bricks are all his. But then she says, yeah, she wants to share it. She says I could contest it and wrap us up in court for a long time. And she convinces to him that there's enough laden them for them both to enjoy it. And I think he's moved a little by the umox. I think so too, which just was a step too far for me. If they had given her a really cogent argument that he could have listened to, yes, Quark like any other male is interested in that sort of thing. But I think there was just too much umox. Umox is a little like Morn. If we just know about it and we don't talk about it, more titillating than you actually show it. Yeah. It just seemed like a joke that didn't work. Yeah. The only thing that kind of pulled me out is when you're when Quark is draining the hot tub, you see the 1990s jet spray. You just see it pulled me out.

32:54It was like they just they just went to a local hot tub. I just wanted it to be more sci-fi more more futuristic. Yeah, it looks like you could yeah, you see the the jet on the side of the hot, the inside of the hot tub. Props just went to hot tubs or hot tubs or us and grabbed it in and put it down and there was nothing. There was nothing futuristic about it. That's all small, small nitpick. Well, we go to Quark's next Quark is playing Tongue with DAX. We learn he's not found the Latin. Yeah. He explains that liquid Latinum is suspended in worthless gold. So that's the first time I hear anything about Latinum being liquid. Yeah. Of us, right? We had no clue. We did not know that. Yeah. Because Quark says I wonder who came up with the idea of suspending liquid Latinum inside worthless bits of gold. And then DAX has responded somebody probably somebody who got tired of making change with an eyedrop. So we start. Yeah, we start to get this idea of the liquid, which I had never pictured that before. I always thought it was a solid.

33:56Yeah, I can't help you there because I've so known that for so many years. Yeah, but did you know that before this episode though? That's exactly right, Garrett. I'm not sure if I'm going to get before this episode. Okay. Well, we do learn that DAX is winning this game. She always does. She always does. She does. She says don't trust a pretty face. Then she beats him. I wrote down Quark is helpless against any pretty face. Whether it's DAX. And that's good writing, despite my qualms about some of the other stuff. That's good writing. You know, be aware of a pretty face. And then we have a close up of Terry. Yes. That's that's and she wins. Of course, she wins at the end. Yes. I thought it doesn't bow to all that for you and LaRelle. No, it doesn't. But and in in this scene works as I don't trust her. Terry, you know, DAX says don't trust her. I go, I don't trust her. Yeah. Is this Terry's only seen or she has another. She was in the beginning. She was beginning. The very beginning. Okay. I'm sorry Quark that the dead. The morning's dead. Yeah.

34:56That's right. So the morning's dead one and then the crush scene with the war for the end of your Terry credit. The moment when she sees mourns sitting on the on the stool in the first scene. It's really quite nice. Yeah. It really played shock very well. I thought. Yeah. I also like to fairs work in this scene as well. Yeah. Oh my God. I thought you did a great job here. Oh, forgive me. I think that's my best scene is the one with Terry because it's it's just comforting. It's just two friends working together and knowing exactly what the world is like. That's a great description. Comforting. All right. We go to Quark's quarters next. The lights are down. He enters with the painting and somebody's in the shadows. He thinks it's LaRelle, but nope. It's two scary aliens, a couple of gangster brothers, business associates of mourn, they say. They say that more and owed them money on a loan, 1000 bricks coincidentally. And Quark says, well, he needs to see documentation of this loan. And they say, no, we shook hands. And they basically imply that it's like a couple of gangsters.

35:58They're going to they're going to rough them up and apply. We're hit over the head that there are a couple of gangsters. Yes. Yes. They offer 20% they go back and forth. He holds it 40%. Finally, they hit him literally hit him over the head with the painting. And he he agrees to 50%. I noticed the moment before I get hit over the head, I can see me bracing for the painting is behind me, but I know it's coming. So I go, that's funny. But at the same time, Armand, I'm guessing props pre scored the canvas. So it's already ready to break easily. Right. That may have been the one and only take that we had because God knows how many of those those paintings they had. Right. So they probably said, we have to get this right on the first take. And so I knew it was coming. And then I can see it in my eyes. I can go. That's funny. Yeah, I couldn't take my eyes off of this alien makeup at this entire every time we see the brothers, I'm just staring at every part of that make because there's so much going on. It's a great makeup.

36:58And they're not identical. The muscle, he's got the wider face. They kind of incorporate the, and then of course, the brains is, it's almost a little rural and hardy in a way in terms of their dimensions, but their physicality through this whole thing, you're right. They're Robbie. They're like, goon enforcers the way they walked and how they talked and how they threatened you. They were doing things with you. Yeah, it was sort of like, hey, what are you guys doing? I mean, you almost want to. Yeah. I thought I was waiting for it. A little bit of accent from the East Coast. Yeah. Yeah. They make a deal though 50, 50, and then they leave. Quark finds a chip in the frame in the broken frame. He slides it into the computer. Learns that it's a claim slip for storage locker. Armin, you literally leapt with joy. You leap, you spin, and you say, I love you more on at the end of the scene. Yeah. Yes. Not at this point, Armin, but later when you're going to the corridor and you jump

38:00up and click your heels, you were so spry and got so much. I know. I was younger than you. I was younger than you. I was younger than you. You were sort of things. You were just as free as you were. I don't know if I can do it anymore. Oh, you were a spring chicken then. It was great. I like the energy too. I did. I felt like the pace generally in this episode was a bit slow and very, you know, methodical, which took away from the comedy. So that kind of energy, that kind of just, yeah. I loved it. I thought I was great. Garrett, can you believe summers almost over? I can't believe that. I know. It's flown by and I feel like we almost miss summer until I got that package from Omaha Stakes.com. Remember we tell us? Yes. Yes. Yes. You did not tell me how that went. It's amazing. So we weren't grilling very much this summer. It felt like summer was flying by and then I got these steaks and burgers and chicken and fish frozen high end meats, gourmet foods right in my freezer. And we're back out. It's like summer has arrived.

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41:04Download the quince app for app exclusive offers or go to quince.com slash tdf. Get free shipping on your order in 365 day returns now available in Canada and the UK too. That's q-u-i-n-c-e.com slash tdf. And here is a little bit of trivia that we kind of talked about earlier. Probably the painting of the Madador that is smashed over Quarx head was purchased by more than the fifth season episode in the cards. John Eves painted 10 duplicates of the original painting. They were then scored so they would rip when smashed over Quarx head. There you go. So okay, ten of them. I'm trying to think, did I know that there were ten or did I think there was only one? Well, maybe you did in first take and you guys could hit it. I probably did do it in the first take. Yeah. Yeah, you did. You did ten duplicates. That is a lot. That is a lot. I usually when we do a prop that has to break or something, we'll do two, sometimes three to be safe. Okay. You never want to have one, but two should be enough and three is more than enough.

42:05Yeah. Ten is almost. It feels like they could save some money on the ten duplicates of the painting and paid Mark Allen Shepard a little money. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Here's a union question. If in one project, which series, the series Deep Space Nine, if you bump someone up from background to principle, can they be returned to background playing the same character? I don't think they can. I don't think they can either. No. If it's a named character. If you're playing the same character and you named that character and paid them as a principle, even if they don't speak, we had a character that never spoke and appeared in at least three, maybe more episodes. May I do the servant to you? But always got top of the show, Billy. Look. They got paid accordingly. Wow. There you go. Mark should have had Tiny Ron's agent.

43:06Yeah. We go to security office next. Quark opens the locker in the little locker box in Otto's office and there is one brick, just one brick in there. He wrote on the back of the brick that the rest is in the bank of Bollius in his writing. Otto's, again, I'm not sure what his point of view is here, Armand, but Otto says this he seems surprised. This wasn't in his official records. What? What? He had all this money. And that's the one time that the choice that I wanted René to make, I thought he made, which was he was disappointed. There's more to it than the one brick. I went. Right. Not just surprise, but to me, disappointed. Oh, you might actually get something out of it. Yes. Right. Right. So, and I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Quark does take the brick and he puts it in his coat pocket, which is very important here. Which is, I understand. I have to say this.

44:06I can't tell you how many times in the script, it said Quark puts this in his pocket. Right. Now, I don't know about you guys, but on our show, nobody had pockets. No, no, no. You're not. It gets anywhere in the costume, anywhere. And so whenever they, I'm sure in this script as well, it said Quark puts the brick into his pocket and I go, I don't have any pockets. I have to figure out where to put it where it won't, you know, so this is where I put it. So not even a vest pocket, right? You have all those intricate coats and vest. Nothing. Nothing. No side pockets. No, no, nothing. There's no pockets. But invariably, the writer says he puts it in his pocket and going, come to the set, you'll see that we have no pockets. Basics don't have pockets. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. I got drawn out a little bit in this scene because of the whole thing where you say, oh, Maureen wrote on this and I kept thinking, what would write on gold? Then I started thinking, oh, okay. Quark should have said, take a look on the bottom.

45:07Recognize Maureen's handwriting in black Sharpie. Or something like that. I just don't even know. I just don't even know. I just don't think too. Pull you a little bit. Okay. Yeah. I'm not the only one. All right. Yeah. We go into the corridor where Quark runs into LaRelle and she offers a little motivation. Some unocks, more unocks. She wants to stay here and help him with the Latinum and share in the Latinum. And she says that she's very impressed that he's resisting her unocks attempts so much. And that he's delaying his gratification. I think she says at some point in the scene. Very impressed by that. And Quark says, well, you don't make it very easy and he heads off. He gets in the turbo lift. Where's the gold brick? She picked pocketed it. Yes. Yeah. And if we go back and look at the scene, there isn't any place. I understand that sometimes, you know, there was another scene in another episode where Philip

46:08Bangalom picked pocketed something, a sword from War of the... But I thought she never got close enough to me to pick my pocket. And then it doesn't go anywhere. I mean, then actually he explains in the elevator about, well, I don't care about that. But it doesn't say I don't care about that. He says, well, I have something else. Yeah. This is something like, there's lots more. There's not a hundred or ninety-eight more or something. But he never brings it up with her again. I mean, my dear, you can keep that one, you know, we're partners. And let that go to a cheer. Right. It's just dropped. It's just it's dropped. Mm-hmm. Robbie, I see your note about the clicking of the heels. That happened in the... Didn't it happen in the corridor before you see LaRelle? Yeah, he's in the corridor heading to the turbo lift. It's just before you get in the turbo. It's after the LaRelle conversation. So that's why he does that clip. Yeah. Yeah, you click your heels in the air. So it passes... A background person passes me in the corridor and then I click my... Then you click it after they pass, yeah. That's great. Really good.

47:09Yeah, it was great. Well, you get in the turbo lift, but the door is... Do we get it? Yeah. It's... It's stopped. But before we... He says, take me to level 16, I think it is. Yeah. Nothing moves. The doors don't close. He's speaking out loud. Yeah. And then all of a sudden somebody comes into the elevator, into the gerollif. And I go, shouldn't there have been something that indicated movement? Yeah. Climbing is strange because you say level 17, and that's when you reach for the... You reach for the brick. You will be in a moment with that. You would have been moving at that point. You're right. Of course. And we have seen turbo lifts move before. It moves immediately after you say what level? It doesn't cause for you to find the brick and for the... And take some more. But we don't get any sense of movement. No, no. There's no movement. And even if it was moving, where did the... Where did the brothers come from? Like they just sort of just show up.

48:10Like they knew that you were going to pump... Seemed to me like they were on the same floor following you. Oh, there you go. That's what I thought. About that. I had seen you click your ear. He says Clark says, this is my stop. So he must have... To me, then he's gotten to level 17. This is my stop. Yeah, so as you're right, it should have moved. There should have been some suggestion of the movement. Right, but that way the brothers are in there too. Already that, correct? Or they're outside the elevator door... Well, it opens at 17 and then they grab you. Okay. So I would have loved to have seen the doors open and then then grab me. Yes. Nothing happens. The camera's on me the whole trip from wherever I was to 17. And I have no sense of movement. What's that? Yes, I agree. So, under side by production, Robbie, what happened? I think it's the direction. Yeah, I mean, if it says in the script, he gets in. He says level 17 and the turbo lift takes him to 17. Yeah. And the director should make sure in the DPE,

49:10they should all make sure that we're telling that story, that this turbo lift is traveling to another floor. And they didn't really tell that story. It was just tight on the floor. No, and we've seen it in other episodes. It's not like they're making this up. It's day-rooted. They don't know how to do this. Yes. Why didn't they do it? It's shocking that that fell through the cracks. I'm shocked. Well, the brothers jump in the turbo lift. They grab him, crit, and nosc. Nosc feels bad about the painting, which made me laugh. He really, he really apologizes more than once about the painting. Quarx says, no hard feelings. Crit says his brother has a nasty temper sometimes when things don't go their way. Yeah. And quark reassures them. Things are going to go your way very soon. Yeah, all of this, I mean, I feel like the kind of good fellist comedy, you know, it could have been funnier. And it didn't read as funny. It didn't read as scary. It was kind of a mushy middle. So it would have been funnier if the pacing had changed. I think the paint could literally have been pacing.

50:11That's it. It's got to be faster. It's got to be faster. It's got to be faster. And then the jokes would have landed. And then you could say, OK, speed through all of this until this moment. And when he says this, it stops the room. And everybody takes this seriously. It would have been more interesting, kept my attention a little better. If we had had comedy that turns on a dime to jeopardy and then a joke gets us out of it or something, it felt like we were in kind of one year the whole time. Again, I think it was theatrical. I think that two actors and myself, it's concluded me as well. The three actors said, this is a comedy. And for the two actors, the guest stars, this is their chance to be on camera. This is what they got hired for. Yeah, they were kind of milking it a little. And we were going to make the most of it. Yeah, definitely. But the milking, the slowing down of the tempo completely kills the comedy. It kills the comedy. It's just the thing that they were trying to do with character actors. They actually hurt themselves by the pacing of it. And if a director had just said, hey, I see what you're doing. It's going to be funnier.

51:11It's going to work better. Our story's going to play much better with pace. You got to go faster. And then they wouldn't have milked it as much. And they wouldn't have indulged. And it would have been funny. You probably would have had a short episode. You would have had to write some more scenes. Because it needed that kind of pace in my opinion. And also, I think when you're, like you said, as a guest actor, when they want to do, when they want to add this bit to their real, they're thinking, oh, this scene in and of itself, I'm going to use this as be amazing. So let me milk it as much as possible. Yeah. And it looks great on the real for the, look at me and alien makeup and playing. You know, I look at this great, this looks, but in reality, for the overall episode itself, it did not work. Yeah. Yeah. We go to Quarks quarters. He goes to contact the bank when suddenly in a close up, we see a gun to the back of his head. And we meet Hane, the arrival of my good friend, Greg, it's a, Greg, it's an, I saw Greg do a play. I think with Bob Picardo at a church somewhere.

52:12Oh, it was a devil and an angel conversation or something. I can't remember. Yeah. I have to tell you, the working relationship between Greg is a stage actor. Yeah. And Andy Robinson as his director and they did a dozen plays together. I was going to ask about that. Yeah. There was a very well regarded memorable productions that they did together. Andy and Greg. Yeah. Greg was nominated for Tony for Kentucky cycle. He's nominated for an Emmy because for those of you who recognize him, go, where do I know that Facebook? He was the president on 24, for which he was nominated for an Emmy. He got all sorts of theater awards in Los Angeles, extraordinary actor and had been a series regular on a number of shows that didn't go very far. But did the pilots had a couple episodes and that was it. So Greg gets and was from Wisconsin. He went to ACT in San Francisco and studied at their training program, which was a highly regarded classical theater program.

53:13It's the other program that I had auditioned for. It's actually the school I wanted to go to more than Julia. Yeah. You said that. That was your preference. And it may be that he ran into Renee there because probably at that time, Renee was the leading actor at ACT. Wow. The first TV show of pilot that I ever did, Greg and I were the guest stars. Well, I was a series regular. He was a guest star. They made him a series regular. They said, if this show goes, his performance is so extraordinarily good, they said, we'll make you a series regular as well. And we did countless plays together. Our families are very close friends. I'm going to the details. I have some harrowing stories about the latter part of his life. I will tell you this story very quickly. Greg, who mourns for mourn, Greg died twice. He died the first time. Had a heart attack. The doctors pronounced him brain dead. They put him on a special machine to keep him alive or to keep him breathing.

54:18And the family eventually turned the machine off and he didn't die. Despite what the doctors told the family. And it took him about 10, 11 months to recuperate. And the sarcasm that I mentioned earlier about Greg, all of that disappeared. He became another person. Wow. This was all done before that heart attack. But Greg and I were just attached to the hip forever, forever. Wow. But he has since passed though. Greg isn't a long-awaited person. He died in Wisconsin. Just an incredible presence, incredible presence. Yeah. I mean, both of you have the honor of meeting him and interacting with him and knowing him. I wish I did too. Yeah, he was. If you saw him, as Robby just said, if you saw him on stage, you would never forget that performance. He was extraordinary. I know he was friends with Bob Picardo as well. OK. And Bob knows a lot of people. Yeah. Really does. Probably the other question I had for you is, is this, this is not Victor Lobel's first

55:20DS9 directed episode. Is it? He did one, didn't he do one before? Yeah. So Victor Lobel directed for the uniform. He directed, um, who mourns for mourn in the pale moonlight and prodigal daughter. OK. So DS9 and he directed two episodes of Voyager. Yes. So for the uniform as an older episode, then correct? Yes. Yeah, we've already did. Yeah. OK. This is his second one. His second go. Yeah, this is the second one. He'll do two more before the end of the series. And in the pale moonlight is it which you haven't seen yet? Right. Right. And enormously powerful. I've heard of many good things about that. That episode don't know much about it, but looking forward to seeing that. Well, Greg, it's in polls, a phaser to the back of Quark's head here and Quark turns around. Hain says that he's luring security and he's arresting Quark for conspiracy. Armin, have a question. He says, put your hands on your head. You put your hands on the makeup. And my first thought was, oh, don't press down too hard.

56:22It's foam. It's going to, did you have to, like, did you have to be careful of when you leaned on your head or was it thick enough that you could play like? And my makeup process was over when the application process was over. The last thing that was done is it was powdered. So it set everything. And not only was my head powdered, but my hands were always powered always. So there was no chance of my hands getting stuck to my head. Okay. Even if the orange on the top of the head got onto the orange of the hands, it wouldn't have made any difference. You wouldn't have seen it. Was the foam thick though? Like if you put pressure, like if I put my hands on my head, I'm putting my weight down on my head. If you put the weight of your arms on that foam rubber, would it, would it just flatten? Would it? Or would it? Or would it? Or would it, up again, the top of my head was at the top. I mean, it was like this, like this hat, the hat doesn't really flatten because it's on that top of my head. So, no, it didn't flatten it out.

57:24Yeah, because I remember the one episode where I turned into a lizard and I had a lot of prosthetics. I had to be careful with touching, you know, touching the makeup or interacting, not that I need to touch my face all the time. But going into the weeds here, when Michael met Wes Moore, did the, the mask, the mold for the mask, it fit exactly my head. So it's only I can wear that makeup because it was made exactly from my head. So it did indeed touch the top of my head. And when you said mask, it reminded me that Michael Wes Moore did the makeup for the movie mask. Yes, that's right. Yeah, which was an incredible makeup. I think she was a nominated for an Academy Award or something. I think so, maybe. When Haynes says Lurian Security, I almost wanted Cork to say, you're not even Lurian. I mean, I just, I don't understand why. There's no shock that he's a human. He annoyed being a Lurian security person. I don't know. It seems a specific. Yeah. But he played it well. I think Greg played it very, you know, I bought, I bought that he was official in some

58:28way. I didn't think he was a con man, a Bumbling Con man at this point. Yeah, he was great. Yeah, he, Cork offers him some bricks, but then Haynes says, no, we'll add bribery to your charges. So he's playing very official so far. Haynes does reveal that Moore was a royal prince with shocks quirk. Prince? Yes, he says, where is it? Oh, it was very funny. He repeated the same thing over and over. So, Cork says, why would the royal family, Cork says, why would the royal family of Luria give Moore that kind of money? Haynes says, he was a crown prince. Cork says, Moore was a prince? Is that the point that you're saying? Yes, and you're two more friends. You didn't know Cork goes, Moore was a prince again. He says, he says, he says, he says, he says, he says, he's three times actually. The old comedy threes, Moore is a prince, but not really. It's a story. But at this point, you think he's a royal prince. That's right. I believe it. I know. I know. Good job, Greg.

59:28Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Good actor. Yes, Haynes says the royal family gets their money back. They want their money back. Cork isn't shocked about his appearance. Moore's appearance. Cork reveals that the ex-wife and the brothers, they're all here. Haynes has to think for a minute. Clearly, now I start to notice his cover breaking here. Sure. And I think Greg could have done that. Yes. He's a little more to the actually. Yes, no subtly. Yeah. Yeah, he turns away. He's like, wait a minute. She's here. Anyway, he thinks hard. He decides he wants to catch them all says, have the bank deliver the money here and then will arrest them. I need your help, basically. So isn't there an offer of a reward for catching them? Yes. Yes, he does say that becomes the incentive for Cork to go along with this. We go to Cork's next in the bar. O'Brien is keeping Moore's stool warm. He's working on an electronic relay. The right there at the bar, he's doing his job at the bar.

1:00:31That's how much they all love Moore. I had no idea. Moore was this. No, no, no. He loves. And then O'Brien says he's got to go test this electronic relay. And Bashir says, I'll take over and he sits down. Wow, people are literally taking shifts to keep the seat warm. Yeah, which is this is what season six? Yes. Yes, exactly. Where's this been for five years? Yeah. I don't know how it is for you guys, but when you're traveling and then you sit down on a chair that's super warm, do you actually get up and sit elsewhere? Because I do. I cannot sit there. I just got to move. It's a what's it called? Dermafob. Dermafob. Yeah, maybe that's where it is. Yeah. So it doesn't bother either of you. If the seat is warm with someone else sitting in that chair, you'll sit right down and stay there. I notice it. I'm like, oh, you do say who that at least a little. But I'm not a Dermafob at all. I'm afraid I don't even notice it. Oh, wow. Okay.

1:01:32Okay. All right. Well, we go back to Quarks. Quark walks into to his quarters. I have to I have to distinguish Quarks bar and Quarks quarters. Yes. Quarks in. He expects another surprise. The lights are off, which I thought was funny, very well delivered armament. What is the first line that you've got there? Anybody here? Where did you set it? You're like, it was very funny. You played the subtext in a comedic way that I thought was very funny. Yeah. L'Areal appears as someone is following her. She's so scared. So Quark hides her in a nice dark corner. That's when the brothers come in. But the doorbell first, right? And then they hear it. Yes. And then they're breaking in. Yeah. And Quark mimes stay here to LaRelle. So she stays hidden. Quarks, he's the brother, says the latin movie here tomorrow. Then there's another doorbell that somebody starts breaking in. So the brothers go hide and it's hanging. So it's a farce at this point. It's coming a farce. Very, very few companies sit, come, if you're going on here. Should Victor have shown us that they start to go to where LaRelle is before Quark says,

1:02:37I think it's better if you go into the bathroom. They did. I thought they did. They didn't do it. No, not really. Not really. I saw their heads move towards that direction. And that's all you saw. That's it. But I bought it. I bet that guys. Okay. Of course you did because that's what he says. I think it'll be better. We know that trope. It would be better if you go there. It could have been funnier if you had seen a more geography there. I see. A wider shot. I think it would have been. The trope would have worked better if it had been a little more of a stage picture of the geography. Whoops. They start to go this way and then they run the other way. But Hain comes out, Quark tries to signal to Hain. He's gesturing and Hain's like, what are you doing with your neck? Funny. You can put her to it. Yes. Why do you keep doing that? Then the brothers come out and we realize as we kind of were starting to suspect that they all are criminals and they know each other. Hain reveals that they pulled the Lisepian Mother's Day heist. Yes. Famous.

1:03:37The Sipian Mother's Day heist, yes. And Morn helped. So Quark starting to see this whole picture here. One of the things that takes me out of episodes is the idea that they're going to kill Quark, not that I'm attached to the character I am, but not in that way. They're not going to kill Quark because Quark's a series regular. Yeah. Right. And their guest stars. It's just whenever they say we're going to kill him and then they always figure out a way for Quark to come up with a reason not to be killed. But I go, there's just no threat there. There's just no danger there. Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough one because you want to be able to tell stories where you feel like these characters could die. But we, oh, yeah, we kind of know as a regular viewer of this show that Dax is not going to die in a shadow accident that worse not. Well, Dax does die this year, I guess. I forgot about that. Yeah, never mind. Yes, but yes. I mean, there are reasons, but never mind. But the characters don't, it is not common at all, you know, for series regulars, for

1:04:39the story of them possibly dying to actually happen. Yeah. I have been on shows where the series regulars have died. Yes. And then you go, what? But that never happens on Star Trek. No. Well, at the end of this scene, they decide they're all going to, you know, get the money and split it and go their separate ways. And Quark thinks he's part of the split. But then they say, nope, not you, just us. We don't need you anymore. So we kind of go to a commercial on this jeopardy that you're talking about, our men of, uh-oh, they're going to get rid of Quark. But Quark, when we come back, he says, you can't kill me. You need my thumbprint. So Nosek pulls out a knife, which leads us to Quark scream. The scream is amazing. Oh my god. Oh my god. The scream. This is a replication of something I did in another episode. Yes. Yes. Have I done this episode? Probably. We've heard you scream before. Yeah, I did it. So it became sort of a trademark for me was, I don't know if they would say that he screams in this, but it became a trademark for me to do this scream whenever they had the dire,

1:05:45dire date. Well, you did, you established that and created it. And then in one of the previous episodes, we had other Farenghis doing the same scream. Yeah. They started imitating copying what you had established. Yeah. It's a Farenghi scream. I wanted the camera to stay on you for the entire scream, all the screaming. And it sort of gave a little glimpse of you, your face. And then it, you know, detract away. And I'm like, stay on, Armin, dang it. So anyway, thank you. It's a good scream. It's a great scream. Very good scream. Hain stops them from cutting his thumb off and killing him for the thumbprint because Hain goes, you can't just walk in there with a bloody thumb. That's not going to work. So they tried to decide what they're going to do after they get the Latinum. They're not going to cook quark. Quarks is split at five ways, like they would have done with morn. And they do agree. They kind of go, okay, make sense, make sense. Quarks says he's got to go run the bar until tomorrow when the money arrives and then he'll get it for them and they'll all split it, go their separate ways.

1:06:47So he's off to run the bar. When we cut inside the bar, they're all there. They followed him to the bar. They're not going to let him quark out of their site. They're toasting and they're just them. Correct. It's just that there's no one else. And they're toasting to Quarks hospitality, which implies that they before you're going I don't know if it's just them. Oh, I think broke is there. Oh, maybe. Okay. It's not a full bar. No, no, no, it's that it's them and possibly broke. Okay. Yeah, it has to only be broke. I can't remember for sure. I could be wrong. So I think oh, because he says he says close. Yeah, because then Odo would have said like really? Then why is that table number seven occupied? You would have said that's what people. It is an occupied except for the villains and myself. Yes. And possibly broke. Well, they're toasting because they're basically thanking you for buying them drinks, which you can see Quarks attitude here. Like, don't mention it.

1:07:47That's right. It was very funny. And as they talk, they realize they all assumed one of the others killed more. But none of they all say I didn't do it. I didn't kill them. So none of them killed more. I wonder if again, pace, I wonder if it had been cut just quicker. I didn't do it. I didn't. Don't look at me. You know, yes. Yeah. When you and the other Ferengis have episodes together, the magnificent Ferengi episode is a great example. The pace that you guys play at is brilliant. It's what makes it work. It makes the comedy work and that kind of tone work. Well, Oto comes in and they say get rid of him. They tell Quark get rid of him. So Quark says places close. These are just friends of Morn. And Oto asks, how long you closed until? And Quark says very pointedly, till 1600 hours tomorrow. So he's an otosis, oh, I see.

1:08:49So Oto's picking up on their subtext. They're having a conversation without actually saying it. These are bad guys. I need you to keep an eye on me, especially at 1600 tomorrow. Yeah. And I think Renee played that brilliantly. He did. You went, uh-huh. And you could see him putting it all together. Clocking it. Yeah. But we cut inside the cargo bay where a large crate has been delivered. Quark signs for it. It's an egg of latinum. I love this, this container of latinum. It looked like an egg to me and had a little port on it. Quark lifts it up. He leans inside. When he's leaning in, taking it all this latinum, we see the gun muzzles, uh, raise into frame behind him and then he leans back right into the middle of their muzzles. And they're pointing them at each other, not a, not a quark. They're basically going to turn on each other in this moment. And they start shooting where quark dives inside the egg. Was that a double? I like that shit. No, no, that was me.

1:09:49That was the only thing that's right. Listen, I clicked my heels. Like I can do this. Yeah, that's true. You did. Well, it was a great dive. You dive inside the hatch closes behind. Basically quark thinks he's safe. He's counting up all those, you know, just, um, taking in all of this money. He's bricks, the money, the money is everywhere. He's rich, uh, until the phaser shoots through the egg and now he realizes he's in jeopardy. But then we hear Odo's voice off camera says surrender, drop your weapons and they surrender. Odo arrests them for assault with intent to kill. Quark has got all these bricks in his hand. He says, what you're about to hear is the most beautiful sound in the galaxy and he's going to hit some bricks together, which he does and they smash and crumble into dust. And there's no Latinum inside the bricks. It's just junk. It's just gold. Yes, gold. Yeah, arm and I have a question. So earlier when we see that one gold press Latinum, it is shiny.

1:10:53It is metallic. It's purely gold. Then you're in this egg and every brick looks like Matt painted not shiny and then they crumble. I'm so confused about what happened here. I don't know. There were different types of bricks. They should have all looked the same, of course, yeah, of course, but they're, they were Matt painted wooden bricks and then there were silver shiny, uh, metal bricks. Okay. As far as the construction of the props, right? So I would imagine the shiny one was the metal one and the ones inside the egg were all the, the Matt painted ones. Right. And I feel like they should have taken a Matt painted one and put it inside the, the one that served as the single one because then it started to confuse me. I'm like, why are they having this type of gold and then you have breakable props to that all the time. Yeah. You know, you've got a stunt prop, a rubber phaser and it doesn't look like the hard metallic phaser. Right. And now a days you can go into post and kind of match those finishes in post if they didn't

1:11:59look identical real life, but back during these days, DS9, Voyager days, they couldn't do that. It was too, too expensive. And must point out something that that was good writing in the scene with Jacks. He takes the little strips and he, and you would get the sound of them clinking. Yes. And then that's what you're expecting. Yeah. And it does. And I thought, oh, they set this up. That's very smarter than in the taxi. Yeah. Right. We cut the quarks where quark is cleaning up at the bar. He tries to rip more and stool out of the ground. I was worried you were going to break the set there. Well, it's usually the stools were not attached to the floor. So they must have bolted that, that stool to the floor just for this bit. Yeah, just for this bit because usually the stools were movable. Okay. Well, Odo brings more in. He's not dead. He's alive. Faked his own death. Quark says, you've got a lot of explaining to do. And then just as more and is about to speak, quark cuts him off.

1:13:00No, no, no, I don't want to hear us. It's very funny. Basically, you, it's all quark talking here. Quark's mad, asked him what happened to the ladenham. Eventually, more and spits up some ladenham from his second stomach. It was kind of gross. I was confused for a second. I'm like, what's happening? It's turning into, I think that's the point. I think the point was you are supposed to be confused. All right. Well, one final bit of trivia. The noise, mourn makes when he regurgitates the ladenham took a supervising sound editor mace, Matyosian, several days of Foley recording and over six hours of editing to complete. That's wow. That's right. For one, one little, yeah. Wow. I also liked how quark said, all these guttas, this worthless gold. And then he says, he says something about a primitive. Yeah, I know for primitive societies that think that this is valuable. Yes. For referring to us. I love that. I love that.

1:14:00I'm saying here's some primitive cultures who consider it quite valuable. Yeah. Very funny. Very good. Well, there you go. There you have it. Morn's not dead. Who mourns for mourn? In Norse quark. No. Yes. Any, any as all his thumbs. Yes. He does. You also have another question. Quark says, after, you know, you've been keeping it in your second stomach all these years, that's a lot of latinum. No wonder your hair fell out. So is latinum is toxic? I'm not supposed to. Yeah. I mean, that's what we're made to assume. Yeah. You're absolutely right. Again, new things, new information I had never knew before this episode. And I think that's the point we learn more about mourn in his relationship with other characters. Yes. I'm sure it was a surprise to most of the other characters. Yeah. All right. Armand, do you have a theme or lesson or moral for this episode? I do. I do. I have actually three themes. If I don't, I don't have it. So the first theme is friendship has its ups and downs, but that's an easy one.

1:15:05This is the second theme. Rule of acquisition number 21. Never place friendship above profit. Or theme number three rule of acquisition number 40. She can touch your lobes, but never your latinum. All good lessons. All good lessons. The third one I think is the best. She can touch your lobes. Yeah. That's the right analogy. Number three. Robbie, can you break off some wisdom of your theme or this episode? My theme is use your imagination when trying to solve a tricky problem. That's what I got out of that. There was a lot of imagination needed in this episode. That's good, Robbie. And I'm going to go with my lesson is to never trust a naked individual in a hot tub full of mud. Don't be fooled by a pretty face. A pretty face and a hot tub full of mud is. Yes. There you go. That's it. We have a Patreon poll winner for theme slash moral slash lesson in this episode. Yes. Yes. That's submitted by Nicole Brattell. That is there is more to mourn than meets the eye or 100% yes.

1:16:11No. Thank you, Nicole. Thank you. Yes. We also have an honorable mention for theme and moral and that's submitted by Amy MC and that is greed is a leading cause of blindness. Okay. Okay. That's very wise. That's very funny too. Okay. Thank you, Amy MC. Well, we have come to the end of our recap and discussion of the episode who mourns for mourn. Thank you, everyone for tuning in and thank you to Armin yet again for joining us and co-hosting with us. Thank you, Armin. Yeah. My pleasure and let us also for I started with this. I'm going to end with this. Let us thank Greg. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. And Mark Allen Shepherd for playing. And Mark Allen Shepherd. Yes. All right. Well, Patreon patrons, please stay tuned for your bonus material. Everyone else, we will see you next time and we will recap and discuss the episode far beyond the stars with both of them. Don't miss that. Don't miss that. No, no, no, no, no. And that's going to be a double feature where you have Armin and Terry on that one co-hosting

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