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Why Baker's $160M Deal Is a Win for Cleveland Too

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Ken puts his hand up and swears he never bought into "we should've kept Baker" revisionism, walking through just how bad things got before the Deshaun Watson trade. He and Anthony argue Baker's three-year, $160 million extension in Tampa is actually good news for Browns fans too, since it should push the Haslams to handle their next franchise quarterback with more patience and tighter reins than they gave Baker.

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Why Baker's $160M Deal Is a Win for Cleveland Too

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if we would have just kept Baker Mayfield. I'm like I got the receipts. I know what you wrote four years ago about Baker Mayfield here. I'll put the screenshot next to each other about what you said. Our comments though are public. Their comments usually aren't. So yeah, people flip flop and they do that all the time with quarterbacks. I am 100% on the record and you have backed me up on this. This is a show that loves to call me out for maybe misremembering things. I did not think Baker was long for Cleveland. I thought that we should have brought in a veteran to compete and held on to him because I didn't think we were just could give him up and then they went and they traded for Deshaun Watson, which is a trade that I did not want to happen a million times over. But you've heard so many opinions on it over the years that maybe you get it crossed up. Again, Anthony remembers these things. We keep long score, long term with each other. He would have thrown it in my face. But I was one of the people go, man, he's he seems broken too. There's something wrong here. There's this bad. This is not good.

He and people forget about the year in Carolina. And he's done well after the year in Carolina because it finished up in LA and that seemed to kind of get him reset with Chameleon. And then obviously he's done a pretty fine job down there at Tampa Bay. I'd have to say, whether or not you say he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback, I think that's a relative conversation because Sam Donald is one of Super Bowl. I think a lot of people didn't think that he'd be a Super Bowl winning quarterback. So I think that door is definitely open. But this is the reason why I say good for Baker good for good for good for us because for Baker, yeah. I mean, you were almost given up on you were seen as a bust and afterthought. Now you've made a boatload of money and you're going to get you're going to continue to get paid a boatload of money. And it should, I mean, with how this contract is, I don't think it's going to be crippling at all to their cap so they should be able to put some people around him. Why do I say it's good for Brown's fans? It can be good for Brown's fans. And the reason I say it is because this has been a franchise that if you pay attention to

the history since the Haslam's own it, they have over, they have tried to over correct mistakes. I think they're getting a quarterback next year. And I think that it's not always going to be peaches and cream with that quarterback. And they are going to exhaust every option possible and not freak out with that quarterback before they actually were to give up on the guy. They're going to do everything they can. I think they'll be more judicious with how much power the young man gets as far as picking coaches. So the rearranging schedules, all the things that we had heard with Baker here. I think that they're going to be a little bit tighter on that. I hope so because it has been a team that has again tended to over correct their mistakes from the past. And one of their mistakes was it was too much too soon for Baker to have that type of power within the organization. He wasn't ready for it. I think that he would probably admit that right now. He's much more ready for it now because he's an older person. He's a much more mature person.

And I hope that the Browns would learn from that mistake and it would serve them better. And hopefully we can actually get this quarterback situation right next year instead of languishing out in the middle of the ocean like we've been doing for the better part of going on three decades now. Go ahead. It's interesting. Baker's now 31 years old. And we talked about man, if Baker was here, if Baker was here right now, I actually, I know this is it was so rock bottom with to Sean Watson, even though we did make the playoffs, you know, they hear the flack of one on the amazing run. That notwithstanding that people think had Baker have never left. Then the Browns would be in this great spot. I'm like, I mean, you guys forgot how bad it was at the end for Baker. And that when we brought on national people at the end of the year, they almost all came on and said, you got to move on. You got to move on. There were other member Kirk cousins. That was a big, that was a big discussion. And we couldn't find a lot of people that were like, no, this is going great

with Baker Mayfield. And there were those out there. And certainly, I mean, we did, we did every day, the Baker Wars at the end. And it was rock bottom for Baker. At least we thought, and then he went to Carolina. And it was bad again. So I play scout team defense. Yeah, I will never be under the belief that we should have just kept them. Everything would have been fine. Yeah. Like just because it got so bad with to Sean Watson, the assumption is it would have been better with Baker. And I'm like, man, he did not just magically heal from that injury and then have great football right afterwards. And there was some soul searching, the McVey thing, even how long was he even there? But that was given a lot of credit last year. He weeks of the year. But it did seem to be like, it did seem to kind of settle them down and have him play confidently again and show him that he can still do this at a high level. Cause I mean, there were some, I know we remember 2021, but there were definitely some really good times with Baker Mayfield as well. Oh, yeah. Like as bad as things did get in 2021, we're not going to sit here and act like there wasn't good things in

2020 and there wasn't good things in 2018 or anything like that. It was uneven. But I think had everybody had calmed down. Like my argument is that we wouldn't be in this, this wonderful feeling of of Kumbaya and we'd be counting super bowls or anything like that. It's just, it's better than this. And it would be much better than this arguing about whether or not like I, I can't put them in the same category as Josh Allen. Maybe I could put them in the same category in some way down in Cincinnati. Not overall talent like Joe Burrows is a supreme talent. But it's like, hey, are we going to be able to punch your ticket here with this guy? Like, what's going on here? Is he going to threaten to leave? Is he not going to threaten to leave? Like, what's going on? Spring is finally here and it's that time of year when plans start becoming real. Trips are getting booked. The calendars filling up and the energy is shifting. Make this season count. By starting right now, you'll hit summer already feeling more confident speaking and understanding a brand new language. Whether you're prepping for a dream vacation, reconnecting with your

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We can't revise it. We can just learn from it. I hope that we learn from this situation because I hope I've not given everybody the idea. I don't think I have it. I don't think you have that all we need to do is get to April and then once we have that guy, we're going to take no, we're going to have, we're probably going to have some moments. We're probably going to have some questionable moments with that guy. We're probably going to have some moments where we question him, question what he does. It's sports. It's professional sports. Look at the team game. It's going to be difficult. Look at the Baker draft. You can make the argument. He ended up being the fourth best quarterback in that draft. We did all the time and we took him number one overall. So just having a pick in the draft that's high, you know, depending, who knows what pick we're going to have in next year's draft. We have number one overall. It's number eight, nine, ten. It's not even about number one, but if you were to end up with more manning, uh, try to dad, shameless, like it's like, however, you're going to have to be patient. Like there's going to have to be and we're going to have

to calm some people down and go, let's go to the table before we go to the mattresses here. And let's have a conversation here before this becomes an all out war. I know we got to go. Do you think Baker can win the Super Bowl with Tampa Bay? I still do. I still do not. I still am not a believer. After all these years, all this money, all this volatility. I don't think they can this year. I think they can in three years. I think they can in two years. Do you think his body is going to hold up? I don't know. Overtucked that. That was always the thing about Baker that he wasn't Josh Allen. He couldn't absorb all those hits and still be able to do all the things. You can see last year, the minute that his injuries just kind of pile up over the season. I will never question his fortitude, you know, resiliency. That guy is going to bring it. I just think he doesn't have the body that these other guys do. Even Patrick Maholms who gets worn down. He doesn't have those gifts to be able to do that. And now those hits, the toll just keep piling up.

I want you to and I wonder if he's playing his best football. I don't know that he's going to get any better answer this answer this question. We'll come back now. Now what do you think? What upset Brown's fans more? Seen Baker get this three year deal or if he became a free agent and signed with a rival. Like I think we know who we're talking about. I want you to answer that question in five minutes as well as first it was chased a lot. Or then it was Travis Bazaar. Let's see if we can get him to talk some trash about Tanner Bobby. Ken Carmen Anthony Lyme alive in the family. You want a career that pays how about 40 to $75 an hour in total compensation including healthcare, retirement and getting paid while learning. That's what the union building trades offer. St. Louis is booming with projects and contractors need the next generation of skilled workers right now. Skip the dead in jobs. Skip the mountain of student debt. Learn a trade, earn a paycheck. Build something that matters. Visit mounioncareers.com and start building your future today. Hey, all right. It's almost here. Are you ready? Just grabbing my shoes.

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