Why I Quit My 9-5 In Australia To Live Abroad In Bangkok

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Just on my way to go meet Jerry.

I need to go find out where he is.

So Jerry, we're going for a walk and talk.

The new series that we've just started building out, not letting people know exactly where we

are, but we are in Bangkok right now.

And one of the things that I think is really important, we'll just get into this.

A lot of people are always going, is traveling relocating for me?

Is it something that I should be doing right now in my life?

And I think it'll be a really good idea for us to go through your journey a little bit,

just for the fact that you've literally 11 months ago, you relocated here, but it wasn't

the first time you tried to relocate here.

And why it's important for people to get a reason why they're actually moving versus

just doing it.

So do you think you can kind of give a breakdown of what happened the first time you tried

to relocate to another country?

For sure, that's a really good question.

So I've always romanticised moving overseas, but I've never had the means to do it.

And it was 2023, I went into a small business, ended up being able to replace my 95 income

so I quit my job.

And after a couple of months, I made the move to Thailand.

But I stopped up because I ended up treating it like a big holiday.

And I got too often in the sauce.

Yeah.

What do you mean you got lost in the sauce?

Basically, I was just partying every single day on every couple of days, you know.

We were at RCA, which is this big clubbing complex, popping bottles every couple of days

and just...

You pretty much spent all my money.

Yeah, so I think that's the funny thing is that.

People think that Thailand or even relocating to these cheaper countries means that it's

a cheaper lifestyle.

It doesn't, if you've got the, as you call it, the sauce and you start going out and basically

drinking bottles, bottles cost basically the same anywhere you live.

They do, yeah.

Yeah, but pretty much stayed for a couple of months just, I realised that it wasn't for

me yet.

So in 2024, I ended up going back home just to work on myself and build some more businesses,

get some more money.

And it wasn't until last year to 2025, in February, I made the decision to finally move to

Thailand for good and I locked in a one-year lease.

So that's okay.

So the first time you had, how long was you here before you realised and pissed or your

money away?

It was about three months.

And it was during the festive season, there was a lot of good, didn't you help?

So was the goal, was the goal to basically stay long-term, or was you just dipping your

toe in to see what it was like living overseas?

It's a really good question.

I don't think I was, I had any goals then, it was just, oh, I quit my job and I thought

I was, you know, above the world and I said, I'm just going to move.

So when I was just high in my day and then I got humbled or I got lost in the thoughts.

Okay, cool, cool.

So that makes it.

And so then you came out here for three months, realised like the lifestyle, it fits you.

Obviously you need to curb the drinking a little bit because it's a little bit too heavy

too quickly, but you're back here now, you've been 11 months and what's been the difference

between the first time, the, yeah, the first time and the second time?

It would be structure.

So the first time I came, I had only just gone to business.

I didn't, my life wasn't really structured, whereas this time coming in, save right now,

I'm running three businesses, I also started doing social media, I'm looking after my

health a lot more.

And there's just structure to my day, every single day I plan my day the night before.

And I guess it ensures me that I don't end up getting lost in the source or just drinking

all night all day.

So the real thing there is that you've built a better structure around who you are and

what you need to survive out here or thrive out here compared to life in Australia.

And I guess that's the question that a lot of people have is relocating, going to actually

fix all their problems.

And my honest answer is no, that's not how this works.

Like if you're running from things in Australia or anywhere else, just moving country just

because it's cheap, it doesn't mean it's going to be better, right?

Correct, but I also argue that for me to have become the man that I am today, I had to

relocate and realize that relocating wasn't going to fix my problems.

So in a sense, it did fix my problem.

You had to go, you had to hit rock bottom to certain extent in going, oh, I can live

well here.

I'm realizing that you're getting pissed every day, basically pisses your money wherever

you are, right?

Or correct, yeah.

Okay.

Cool.

But that's an interesting thing.

So you actually found that putting yourself in a situation where you were on your own,

you had only the money in your back pocket, you didn't have any businesses, you just exited

a business, right?

Or you finished work?

How did that work out?

So in 2023, I got into a small business, it had only just replaced my 9 to 5 income

and that's when I quit my job and then I moved to Thailand afterwards.

Okay, it's because that's another thing that a lot of people have a question about is

obviously, how do I live overseas if I don't have an income and some people have got

that 10, 15K in their pocket, they're working a stable job and I'm like, are you going

to be able to survive on 15, 15K realistically?

Well, let's, let's break that down.

So 15K to live really cheap in Thailand, we'll just say it's about $2,000, right, you eat

street food, you live out of city, maybe in a small house or a really small condo, but

15K is going to last you, what, seven months at best?

Yep.

And then what are you going to do afterwards, no income?

And that's not even in the nice areas, right?

Like you're living just outside in the country a little bit potentially.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But again, that's one of those things I think people don't take into consideration is

money, money does go further, but if you've only got X amount without income coming in,

you are going to run out of money at some point.

So yeah, for sure, I'm going to argue that you'd have a much more stressful life being

so limited.

So I think if you want to relocate here, you definitely need to have something going

for yourself or at least on that path.

Hmm.

Otherwise, what are your plans?

You're just going to live out here for six, seven months and then go back and live

with your parents.

I don't think that's a good idea.

Well, it's funny because the thing is that I went backpacking and I had about 20 grand

GBP at the time, this is 10 years ago, and I went backpacking and decided I didn't want

to come home.

But within the first six months, I did the same thing as you did.

I just drank, body, never thing, but maybe less bottles and more just hostile hanging

out.

But one thing that I started doing pretty rapidly is, oh, one thing I started doing really

rapidly was I started looking for a job and I started looking for how can I literally

live out here and work at the same time.

And I actually started doing my, the Thai, you know, English teaching, did it for literally

one month, I hated it and tried to find another job.

And then I found one.

But I think having an income is one of those things which is so important and you don't

need to have it straight away, but if you're thinking in that mindset, then you are going

to be able to find it and be able to stay in place like this much easier than someone

who comes out here just to get pissed and have a laugh and then realizes, that's only

going to be very finite.

So I mean, I guess with you explaining how you lived your life earlier back then, you

raise a good point.

If you have 15k and you intend to explore your horizons overseas, I think that's also

fine because look out where you are now as a result of that.

But if you just want to come here and go on a long-term holiday, I don't agree with that

because you're sort of wasting your life.

And you're not going to get anything out of that except for six months of fun, which

ain't bad.

But you know, you might make some cool people, maybe.

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You do.

You know, we met, so that worked out.

So what in those first six months, do you think you can kind of break down what your costs

have been?

I was in this time round when I went into Thailand, yeah, sure.

So I won't, I won't include the first couple of months because you've got a lot of upfront

costs with the bond and rent and just buying things.

No, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's put, put that in as well.

I think, um, realistically, people need to understand what the kind of costs it comes

down to when you first move over here, really.

I can, yeah, sure.

So maybe even start with the, the cost of flights as well, visa, like what is the expectations

because people don't take these little things into consideration.

They think they can just move over, you know?

Hmm, yeah, you're a good point.

So break down the cost of the flight.

I flew with Thai Airways, that costed about $700 from Melbourne.

You can get jet style, which will cost about $300, $400, but if you're moving your life,

you're going to get luggage anyway, so ends up being the same thing.

Just don't ever cheap out on, on flights guys, that's something I live by.

It's I will frustrate the hell out of you.

Aside from that, I'm on the DTV digital nomad visa, that cost off the top of my head,

it was about $6, $700.

Yes.

We'll go through the process of that later as well.

So we've got visa, we've got flights.

I also, when you first rent a long term property here, I believe the bond is two months.

Was it two months?

For me, it was three months.

Three months?

It depends on the, on the owner.

I think some places you can literally come here and just pay the monthly because it's

just a roof, you know, some people.

It depends on how good the digs are, normally.

Okay.

So for me personally, it was two months rent.

Yep.

Now, each month rent for me is 19,000 baht, so that's about 900 AUD.

So you have to pay 900 up front for your first month and then 1,800, which is the other

two months as bond.

Yep.

On top of that monthly expenditure, I budgeted about 30, 35 dollars on food, that's more

than enough.

That's me eating steaks once a day and eating chicken rice for dinner.

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So cheap.

Well, a lot of my money goes on health, though, because I trade more time, I go to the

gym, I get assisted stretching, assisted stretching is gonna cost me about 50 bucks a week.

You're talking about compared to somewhere like Australia where you're probably paying

like four times there for assisted stretching, right?

Yeah.

And again, that's one of those things that I always just think about is like, yeah, these

are your two most expensive things, more tire, which how much do you pay?

About $100 a week.

Yeah, $100 a week plus, yeah, like 50 bucks for assisted stretching a week as well.

Yeah.

So you're spending like 150 bucks, 200 there or thereabouts and you get four body physical

care.

Yeah.

You know, 60 minutes of extruding pain, but it's, yeah, it's the best.

But yeah, you're right.

That would have, that would easily cost 150 bucks in Australia.

Aside from that, I don't drive.

I don't have a license here or a bike license.

I've probably spent about 200 bucks on transport.

That's me taking great bikes, taking a car taxi and also the train.

Electricity, I spend a bit extra because I'm the idiot that leads my air call on 24

minutes because I just like the comfort.

So that ends up being 3,000 baht, which is about 150 AUD.

Yeah.

It can definitely be cheaper if you just turn it down.

Well, I've got a, I've got a two, like a free bedroom apartment because obviously my

wife and I live there and I'm paying like 4,000, 5,000 baht a month.

Yeah.

But that's because I'm always there.

The air cons on and if I'm not there, we've got a dog, so we make sure to keep it on

there.

Yeah.

Even though he'll be fine, it's just peace of mind, right?

Yeah.

I mean, what's an extra 50 bucks for comfort for your pet or for your dolphin?

The fact is that we got the 200 square meter place and we're paying 1,200 US dollar.

So like 15 AUD, 1,500 AUD, 1,600, like it's not bad for for that.

It's not really, is it?

Like, what would you pay for that in Australia?

I don't even want to think, man, I don't even want to think.

You're probably paying 1,600, something like that, like London, you're probably paying 10

to show.

Jesus.

Start from that water is, what's your water bill?

I swear my water bill is $3 a month.

Yeah, it's not much.

Like, Lommas, do you use that water service where they bring you the big jugs?

No, I've been buying bottled water, which is not the best thing, but yeah.

So again, there's a service in Thailand.

I think it's called water, water, spray or something.

Oh, I'll put the link in here for people, but basically they send you those gigantic jugs

and then you get like, you can literally get them coming every week to just change them.

They're amazing.

Is that mineral water or just pure mineral?

Yeah, if you want it.

Well, I've just been buying the Monts-Sloor or some other one.

Mont Flure.

Mont Flure.

Mont Flure.

So that has been about 150, 200 bucks on water.

Yep.

Aside from that, you know, unless I've got friends coming over and we might go to a nightclub

or go to a bar or I might go on dates, that might be $500, $600 for the month, that's

seasonal.

I mean, December, I spend a lot more because it was the festive season, so everyone's

coming in and out.

Yeah.

And also, I like to travel once a month.

But because Thailand is so close to Hong Kong, Vietnam, China, it literally costs one to

$200 for a fly.

So why not use that to my advantage?

So travel a bit that might be next to $1,000 a month.

Well, I get that.

And that's another thing that like I've spoken to a couple of friends who've relocated

from Aussie.

Australia, unless you lived outside of Australia, Australia is really in its own

wealth.

Like you literally have to travel like 12 hours to get anywhere, right?

And again, it's a beautiful place and I highly recommend everyone should be trying to find

ways to stay there longer.

It's a lucky country.

But at the same time, being able to, like you said, travel for you is such an important

part of your life.

If you can't do that, what are you doing in Australia, literally stuck in Australia?

Again, great place, but you can only really go to those places, right?

So yeah.

And as you said, it's about anywhere from 9 to 12 hours, just to get to another country,

you're spending over $1,000 on a fly.

So I wouldn't be able to afford traveling once a month like the way I am here.

So yeah, my preferences are definitely here.

I'm not saying about about Australia.

I still have a beautiful place, but it's not for me at this stage in my life.

Now, well, my friend basically just said that he's going to, like once, once he's gone

through a few parts of his life at the moment where he's, he's in Dubai in a tax-free

and like environment, basically making a lot of money right now that he can then use

for building his business.

Once he's done with that, he's going to go back to Australia.

Oh, nice.

Like he's going to.

It depends on what season of life you're currently in and what you're looking for.

And for you right now, being able to go to Hong Kong, China, Japan, you know,

all these other places is what season of life you're in right now.

That's correct.

Yeah.

That's interesting.

So regarding one of the things that I was interested to ask, God, I'm just going to

slow down and then find it.

So in some of your videos, you have critiqued like the rat race of Australia, the cost of living,

you know, and how difficult it is there.

But would you would you say that, like, you know, even though you've relocated here,

you're still in some essences living the rat race, like you're still hustling,

you're still working on content now, like Ben just so everyone knows, go check out his

profile.

He's got 12k followers now last time we spoke, which is literally like a month ago,

not even you're like at 10k.

So it is growing pretty rapidly.

But he talks all about life in Thailand versus Australia, how other people can do it,

specifically men within their 20s and 30s and giving direction on that, which is really

cool.

But, you know, do you think that you're not living the rat race here as well?

I think I am the biggest ultimate boss of the rat race.

Right now, you know, Japan, I definitely work more than eight hours a day or whatever

than nine to five years, but the difference is I freedom.

I choose my own hours.

If I want to take a holiday, I can take a holiday for vacation.

And I think that's the most important thing for me.

But don't give me a minute.

I do think about sometimes going back to the nine to five because it's just life is easy.

You get your four weeks of annual leave, you get two weeks of sick leave.

If I get sick, I can't take my foot off the gas in business.

I guess it runs different, you know, for me, I value my freedom.

I don't...

What's my fault?

That's me.

Muzzle thing.

You value your freedom.

Yeah, for me, I value my freedom.

So I never want to give that away.

I don't want to.

If I want to go to Hong Kong or China, I don't want to have to ask for permission to

do that or even ask for permission to take a poo or take a piss, you know.

I'll do just a side note.

Tell the story of what happened when you first moved into your apartment and the earthquake

happened there.

And these are things that happen in developing countries, so they can happen anywhere,

but they happen here more.

Well, you know, it was actually the first earthquake in what, 14 years in Thailand.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, you know, I finally grew the courage to move here on my own, already going through

a bit of loneliness.

And I found a condo, I started fitting in and I was thinking, hmm, maybe this is for

me.

I'm starting to get used to being by myself.

Yeah.

And then two months in after getting my condo, the earthquake happened.

And me being stubborn, I didn't want to let the earthquake affect me.

So basically upstairs, we'll just stop this like, basically upstairs, the pipe broke.

So every single time they flush the toilet, their poo or piss in the sewerage, what I kept

flushing into my condo.

And I was thinking, I was being stubborn, I was thinking, I'm not going to let the earthquake

ruin me, because I've just gone out of the lonely phase.

So I started equipping my feet with plastic bags and groves and I started cleaning the

place and I did that for a good two weeks just trying to live within that poo.

And obviously didn't work out so I started bouncing from hotel to hotel, so gross.

Yeah.

Completely you're stubborn enough, Jenna.

I don't know.

Stay there, dude.

That's so funny story.

Well, you know, you're just talking about being permissioned to shit whenever you want.

So that kind of segway, if someone was looking, if someone was looking to leave Australia

to become happier, right, what would you recommend them do before they moved to be happier?

Like you know, like they're looking to actually, you know, relocate because they think it's

going to make them happier.

You know, is it, is it, because I know a lot of people, like I said before, they're just

trying to escape, escape the life that they're living right now.

And is, is, is there any kind of ideas or things that you think that they should be doing

before they, like, take that journey and take that jump?

I think you just, you don't know, you might think it might make you happier, maybe, maybe

not.

But I do recommend that everyone try it at least because you just never know and worst

case I can happen is it doesn't work out and you go back to Australia, you find a job

and life goes on.

But imagine, if you've got the urge to leave like the way I did, and imagine if you just

never do it and then you're in your death bed and you're thinking, what if, yeah, that's

a crappy experience, whereas the risk of actually going for it, it's not that much, it's

what you might spend a bit of money, you might spend a little bit of time and if it doesn't

work out, as I said, go back home and move on, yeah, but at least you got to experience

it.

Yeah, it's a good point.

And if someone tries this for like three to six months and it's not working, they're

lonely, you know, the money didn't come together, they miss home.

What would you say the exit strategy is?

Go back home.

Yeah, yeah.

That's what I don't think people realise how easy it is just to go back home.

Like they think it's so difficult to get out of here.

It's actually easier than most people realise and then going home is just as easy.

Yeah, even for me, I'm away from family, I'm away from all my friends and there are times

where I get a bit sad and lonely because I don't see my parents and they're, but that's

75 now, so it's a ticking time bomb.

But it's so easy to just book a flight for 400 bucks, 700 bucks and go and visit then.

Yeah.

We're in a day and age where it's not, it's not that hard anymore, it's like back

then where you got to catch a boat and stay on the boat for how many a whole year we're

here, you can visit family?

Yeah.

It's changed.

And okay, so we'll go, we'll just spin back on, you were talking about the visa that

you're currently on.

So tell me a little bit about that, you're on the DTV visa which basically is a digital

nomad visa, right?

Can you, can you just kind of go a bit deeper on how you got that?

What's the process, how much it cost, how long it took, just a little bit of a breakdown

to people?

Yeah, sure.

So I'm on the DTV digital nomad visa, but if you're not earning money digitally or through

business, there are other DTV visas that you can get such as the more Taiwan.

Yes, that's true.

Yeah.

Yeah, there's the, what is it?

The learning to, the cooking one?

Oh, like the education DTV, right?

Yeah.

So I basically paid roughly around $700 for it.

Off the top of my head, I needed to have 500,000 baht in savings.

So you just have to take a screenshot or show them your bank statement.

And that's sort of like a free mumps in the bank as well or something like that, yeah.

And I also had to show proof that I was able to work or make an income while living

in Thailand.

So the way I did it was a bit weird.

So because I'm a business owner, I wrote a letter from myself as the owner to

myself as the employee saying that I'm able to operate and perform all my tasks within

Thailand.

And then lastly, I took a screenshot of my business Google profile and my ABA certificate

and that's when I got approved.

One thing is make sure you get everything done properly because if you get rejected, there's

no, if there's no buts, you lose your $700 straight away.

So is there, like, is there any examples that you know people that that's happened to?

Yeah, multiple.

One of my friends here's a, he makes money through trading.

And I'm not sure what he did or what he didn't do, but they rejected him and then he had

to go back to Australia and reapply.

Yeah, so it's important.

Did you do it on your own?

I did.

So would you recommend people to use the service or do you think it's just like just dotting

the eyes and crossing the tees is more important?

I think you could just do it yourself.

There's no point paying a premium for it.

And you've got a, you've got Chachi BT to guide you through it.

That's what I did.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah.

And how long did it take for them to approve it?

It's about two weeks.

Oh, it's not long.

It's not long.

Okay.

And then once you have that, you can, you can legally work here on your business, right,

with, and you don't pay tax here.

No, definitely not.

No, businesses are in Australia.

So your tax resident of Australia still?

That's correct.

Correct.

All my businesses are based in Australia.

And that's a really important thing is the fact that right now you are living in Thailand,

right, on an Australian salary, which is your business, and you're paying tax in Australia.

But because of your cost of living is lower here.

You are making more money, or making your money go further.

Yeah, I mean, I actually spend more money here if you actually, but my quality of life

is, I live like, I live life on Godmau right now, where in Australia, the life I live

here, I'd be spending at least, I would say eight to ten grand a month, but here I budget

about four point five to five grand.

That's including me traveling once a month, by the way.

Wow.

Yeah.

So okay, so wait, in Australia you'd be spending eight, here you're spending half, but you've

got a better quality of life.

That's correct.

And when you say better quality of life, what do you mean?

Well, one I'm eating, I'm eating boggy steaks every single day for $35 a kilo.

That would easily cost $100, $80 a kilo.

Yeah.

For dinner, I order grab, takeaway, usually chicken and rice, I don't need a cook or

spend time cooking.

I travel, as I've mentioned once a month.

I don't need to drive a car.

I can take a taxi, take a bike, take the train, which is really efficient here.

I spend a lot of money on my health, with the more it's high and the gym and the massages

and the assisted stretching.

I get weekly haircuts.

That actually costs more than Australia, but now you've got to, it depends on where you

get the haircuts, right?

That's one of the things as well.

Like, I get mine from a place down the road from me and to be fair, I probably pay more

than I would pay in the UK as well, actually, thinking about it, but the haircuts are always

good.

Yeah.

And when men, we've got to, you know, we've got to look good.

The only thing we've probably spent money on, which is actually expensive anyway, right?

We're not spending money on makeup and getting out of boobs, they'll crush that.

No, that's tough.

Speak for yourself.

I love, I love me a boob job for myself, mate.

To my wife, if you've just heard that, apologies.

No, that's good to know, so, you know, how long does the detail

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I think once you make the commitment to move the tile line, I think you are 100% sure

then do it because the DTVV is at so cheap 700 bucks.

It lasts five years.

It allows you to stay in the country for six months and then you get to extend for another

six months.

So essentially you can stay for a whole year before you need it and leave the country

and come back.

Also, they are getting so strict now on the tourist visas.

If you're in loans, if your passport shows that you've been coming back and forth, they

deport you.

My friend recently went to Pouquet and he got deported.

He had to get all the way back to Australia.

But I think if you're just sort of dipping your toes in the water and you want to see

the tarns for you then just come on a tourist visa, do two months bounce around, don't just

focus on partying.

Actually see what it's like to leave here and when you go back and you make the commitment

then get the DTVV.

That's a really good, I think that again that's a really good point you just put there

is that if you so as an Aussie I don't know what you get as a tourist but as a as a British

citizen on a tourist visa we get 60 days now and then you can extend for another 30 days

right?

Yes.

Australia is the same from memory here.

Okay.

So then we're in a position right now where you could literally come here for 90 days

and use it as a testing ground to go okay, can I can I live here and get an apartment

instead of a host or a hotel you're already saving yourself looking loads of money just by

not staying in a hotel and I think some hope to like some some apartments like I was saying

you don't even have to put key money down of like two months or anything like that you

could literally just move in test it out and go meet people there like you know there's

so many ways to meet people in this is being like you said more time like I do a running

club on Sundays right and there's most of the people there are foreigners right we literally

go run and just everyone has a chat it's only 5k in the morning it's awesome you know

there's a there's another one I just went to pickle ball literally start like pickle

was dope.

I didn't realize it wasn't it was all this and all that all that I just root it's so good

it's so fun and like I blew out my knee but like that's another sip so I'll be kept up

as because I didn't stretch but it's there's so many opportunities to meet people here

and and in cities like this and around the world especially like Bangkok is one of those

places where expats and business people and people who have got ideas come and flourish

you do get both sides of it you can get some absolute monsters here that you want to

avoid but you normally know where they are.

The normally in the places where another drinking happens and a lot of dodgy things happen

a bit.

Do you stay away from it?

You want to avoid the me in 2023 that came here I was one of those monsters.

They you know when I came here 10 years ago for the first time and I was going to host

all and and drinking till the cows came home like you know it's a different crowd yeah

but the very second you start living here and going okay how can I actually be part of

this the the solution not the problem these sort of places can make you flourish and if

you learn the language even a little bit like it's a game over really yeah the tazel

love you yeah and I think well as I said when I first moved the experience with the

language and I'm not an anomaly or anything there are many other expats that have come

here and they feel the same and everyone's just out to meet people people are open

whereas back home in Australia was just so busy very rarely would I be able to just speak

to a random person on the street and they'll give me the time of the day they'll say

oh no thank you you later you know that's a that's a really good point as well is that

yeah being in places like this you're not you are alone right and so because you are alone

other people are alone too yeah and it can be a little bit transient in the sense of like

you know people you meet people and then they leave like and the year later or six months

later but the ones who do stay you end up making really good relationships with them like I'm at

you what you know only a month so we go we've kept in contact here and there we've got busy schedules

but it's just great because I know that I've got a mate here now right who's down the road so

it's really easy to meet people that are winged because the the digital nomad or just the expats that

are living here that are doing quite well a lot of them they've already made it to some extent

in their home country and they've come here to elevate themselves so it's so easy to get around

a circle of winnissio and I love that for example I joined an inner circle when I first moved

y'all sort of a brotherhood thing and the guy that created that he's he went back to the states

and he's in South America now but we literally called each other once a week and we update each other

on our on our lives I'm not scared of sharing wins with him like I am with some of my friends back

home in Australia and it's just it's such a new relationship and we have that connection already

which is amazing yeah yeah I think you know normalizing sharing wins should be a a standard around

the world to be honest stop gatekeeping good things guys it's how we keep the world moving

but it's so hard to share wins for me back in Australia did you get that when you can't you can't

just a drinking mentality so it was hard to even be an entrepreneur in a place where every single

person was going let's go to the pub and not think about anything further whereas you know when

when you put yourself in positions where you are get very lonely I remember that time when I was

here the first time and I was like I'm alone like I don't know anyone here the people that I just

met have left you know and you sit in there going like I don't know if I can make this but then it

gets better it gets better and you know that's where I started building relationships with people

in Australia and started going to you know reliable education and then from there unemployable and

you know if I didn't if I didn't leave I would never have been where I am right now and I do not

regret anything that I've done to be in this position this is the life I wanted and I'm living it

so can you imagine you know when you were in that moment where you were probably tossing and

turning between backpacking or not what would your life have been if you didn't make the decision

to backpack with that $20,000 in your savings account I just I know I would have ended up leaving

at some point that's the thing because I'd always in my mind I always knew that I was going to have

X amount in my account and I would have just left at some point because I it's been in my soul

since the beginning yeah and I think what for me going to a new area and then you know that you

get that experience where you just an completely new vibe you've never seen you get the buildings

kind of envelop and you're like fuck man like this is why I'm doing this like this is why I'm doing

this like I went to Hong Kong reason I was like this is just London but it literally looks like London

but like cleaner I was like dang like I need to do more traveling again so you know 2026 for me is

how how many areas in Thailand can I go and make this a year to remember so now any any other tips

or any things for anyone who is on the fence thinking about you know changing their life for

pushing themselves to the next place honestly just just do it as as as they say what's the

Nike slogan just do it and it's not even about it's not even about moving abroad I think I only

wanted to live in Thailand because I've been traveling all my life and everything and as you said

every single time you're in a new place you just get wowed and the culture is different and

everything is just in your face and that's essentially what drove me to want to become an entrepreneur

so that I could have the freedom to see the world and as a result of that you're now I've

own multiple businesses I don't have a boss anymore and I'm living in Thailand living my best life

and it was all just because I made a conscious effort to see the world at a young age and that just

gave me an inspiration to want to achieve more in life and as we said earlier if if it's not for

you at least you got to experience seeing Japan or Hong Kong or the US and you can go back to

your night to five work and live your life buddy I know that note stay on it global hey there I hope

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