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We got a great show.
I'm excited for today's show, man.
We had practice, which I thought was interesting.
Vote and I were there.
We haven't talked about it yet.
On purpose.
Because I want to see if we had the same takeaways.
My hunch is no.
That's what makes it great.
I can't wait for this.
You can't live.
You guys can't wait.
You guys can debate.
Things in our life happen.
We don't talk about it on purpose.
Because I just, I just don't really want to talk to you.
I just don't really want to share too much.
But LeBron James is coming to Denver.
I also saw that.
League Insiders are saying that's the word on the insiders
are talking.
Jaded McDaniels week to week.
I feel like this story.
Nobody's talking about this one.
And I'm like, how is nobody talking about this?
First of all, what does that mean?
They're all talking about LeBron to Denver.
We'll go over what that means.
Because I actually think it's a huge deal.
And then, of course, our headline topic,
which we'll do at the very end of the show, of course.
The MVP conversation is officially annoyed me.
No, it's just now.
Just now, I'm annoyed.
Is it because of that DM I sent last night to you guys?
It was up there.
Although March 31st, pretty late in the year.
It's still late in the year for you to have lost it.
I was like, I'm above it.
I don't care.
And then here we are.
12 days to go in the season.
And I'm like, these, these a holes, man.
Also, because these straw poll coming out,
voted in the straw polls.
We'll talk about that.
But this is more on the nuggets, the current state of the nuggets.
And to talk about that, we brought in Brenda vote.
I feel like, and this is, I'll be honest here,
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I think we got the right guys in the house.
Let's get after it.
Easily, over here, D-Line Co.
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All right.
There it is.
The energy through the roof.
Hat backwards.
There's no end to that.
Yeah, it's the kind of day it is, man.
It's six game winning streak, Tuesday vibes.
Yeah.
Yeah, the gaming Utah coming up.
I know, the big Utah head man.
It's kind of is a big massive game.
It's going to be a, a white knuckle for sure.
Bro, nobody watches Utah.
So nobody, nobody, nobody knows what's going on.
Oh, I know what's going on here.
Every gate, I'm telling you, the Utah Jazz
are a, I'll say 38 win team.
That somehow managed to win 16 games this year.
Yeah.
They have done the greatest taking job
of ever seen every game.
It's almost like they're proving they can beat you.
And then they just loose.
But who amongst the TikTok generation?
Yeah.
The people watch the Jazz or listen to Jazz more.
Oh, man, that is great question.
We should be honest, we're just probably
asking you about that.
The truth is, the truth is, never listen to Jazz.
Can I ask you, Harrison, what is the Tuesday vibe?
It's this, OK.
It's an off day.
This is kind of waiting around for a big game tomorrow night.
Seven in a row potentially?
Right at the clock situation.
It's Tuesday.
Tuesday vibe.
Same as Monday.
Wednesday or Thursday. We're waiting for Friday with Utah really quick. That last game. I used to say that
Organization is tanking players don't yeah, the roster not playing guys in the fourth quarter
They were getting great looks all game in the final five minutes started and they were just like what about this one?
It's because they know man
It's because these teams know they are supposed to lose it gets in your head
It probably does it has to get in your head
Well also that their owner is like so progressive in the in like the in the diagonal annoying way
Where it's like he's no
Oh, he has no
He has no problem gaming the system. He's he's he's like a you know, he's like a tech guy. He loves gaming everything
It is true. I do think it gets in your head and here's the big thing man season ends in 12 days
He realized that we have two weeks left and this week. There's only the one game Wednesday tomorrow against Utah
So really next week is the final week of the NBA season. We should follow the center, too
But yeah, bro. Nobody's talking about this except for me every single show. I know there's tournament this idea
That we had and season tournament set a team back to backs in 15 weeks
And then all of a sudden the last week of the seasons here. It's like you have no games
I mean, and then a break a week between
Who made the schedule that you did for one game in six days. Oh well, it doesn't matter
Let's go to practice notes because there's a lot there and before we get into what I teased we do have some injury news
Here's the entry dues air and Gordon practiced today. Okay. Okay good to know and I'm told you look good today
His comfort level seemed like it was a good place with the calf
So I'm hoping he'll play tomorrow. This is David Adamin. We didn't go very hard today. Obviously, but yeah, it was good to see him out there for sure
To me that is I'm gonna call that medium. I'm hopeful he'll play it sounds like he was in good spirits
But he woke up game day gave it a go and was like man, it's feeling tricky again. So
At to me, I would say this is a concern
This is a storyline that Aaron Gordon was a late scratch in that game
If that nobody was expecting but it's a good sign that he was able to participate in practice and at the moment
The plan is to play him, but we'll have to see how he feels tomorrow
Well, that sounds like to me. He's playing
Sounds like to me. He's good to go pretty much
I mean wearing another game day scratch. Is that what do you think?
I think well Aaron always wants to go that's the first layer of this that you have
He's extreme most of these guys do but Aaron is very very eager after his last two seasons
So he's always going to try
It's no guarantee, but I mean, it's certainly better than the alternative of hearing that Aaron Gordon did not suit up for sure
So I mean look at you top. Maybe you could get away with it. Uh, I don't know
Well on the count of they will let you in the final five minutes. Bro, I'm telling you
They're so good in the first half though. Yeah, there are there are first three quarter till as I saw the last game
I'm with you, but then in the final five minutes they found a way. Yeah, I'm just
I think mediums that I'm not don't think it necessarily means he's going to play
But I would be really concerned if we were coming in here and be like yeah, he didn't even suit up
So the bad news though is that Zeke and Spence did not participate in practice
And I felt like the way that Adam and talked about him was almost a resignation of like yeah, when we're out without those guys now
Not as just as in for tomorrow, but I actually he said they're going to be day-to-day
But to me it felt more like the way he was talking about I asked him a question about the rotation
And experiment and he almost made it sound like well, we're gonna have to now because without Zeke and Spence
Yeah, I mean he mentioned Jonas Valentinus
He is the gears already turning in there of what does this look like without those two guys
Day-to-day is one of those things that I think you could technically kind of just say
If you're not sure yeah, it's day-to-day
You know monitoring hamstring tightness day-to-day that makes sense
Zeke I'm no doctor. I am a little bit more skeptical on that one
Just again, he did leave the arena with the assistance of crutches after that last game
He left very quickly as we know. Yeah, but it was quick
But it was quick got out there in a hurry. He did day-to-day. I would be very encouraging for Zeke
But I got the scene I didn't it didn't sound to me like yeah, and they could be ready tomorrow
Yeah, and that's kind of the sense I get when you just mentioned the lineup part here. He said
With Zeke and Spence out they could play big with Val again
I mean he's already thinking about how are we gonna close the year?
He said we could go back to playing big with Val you could see Peyton that center
Which is you know is interesting is his minutes ramped up
But then he also referred to playing Cam and Jamal of the stagger as putting them in a tough spot
But he said but we're gonna just have to but we have to we're gonna do it
So I just look at this as he's already thinking about okay if those guys are out
What does our rotation look like we might go back to beg Val maybe Peyton plays center or something like that
To me that is a person that is like man. I don't know what the status is of these guys
For sure, which is just more of the same by the way for him with that forward room
Which as he said after the last game. It's never just a guard and a center
It's always every position group all at once. I know. It's insane. Peyton out centers and treating to me
I want to see that and Utah's a good team to play that again. Yeah, it depends on the team
But yeah, I agree like at least you feel like if Spencer is able to do it and Aaron's able to do it like
Peyton at least has the length yep
So here's one thing because I want to go to Peyton and I really I brought this up on the last
The post game show it was a point of contention. I think a little bit with between you and me here Eric
But I really believe this one
What is Tim Hardaway Jr's role in this team shoot the rocks pretty simple. We all know it right very very direct
What's Peyton Watson's
To do everything. Yeah, he's kind of a do everything guy and this is the point is that it's we grade guys because they're both bench players
But you know this or that one guy it's like come in make shots shoot the ball. That's it whatever
Peyton is sometimes a starter sometimes not he's on this minute restriction
You know that that's tough so his minutes are really weird. He has to guard porzingus
Maybe play backup center, but also you're going to be the lead ball handler sometimes we need you to initiate the offense as well
Like he's tasked and his and it's not like it's one thing all year you've had this job right
It's that game by game you go into it and sometimes quarter by quarter like hey, you're starting tonight
Just fill in the gaps uh go back in now and we need you to be the lead ball handler and initiate offense
And so and on top of that you're coming back from injury in a minute restriction
And this is why for me
I'm just a little more patient with Peyton right now is I look at it
I'm like man
I just know what it's like when you don't have a defined role how hard it is to know what you're supposed to do
Possession by possession
And so that's why I actually am not too discouraged by what we've seen from here lately
Well, he's coming back to a situation that's different from when he left it right off the bat
So even just coming back to the bench without a minute restriction would be something to adjust to
Then you throw the minute restriction in there and as he outlined today
You know, not everyone has has missed six weeks of basketball in their career
Especially a player as young as Peyton have on this before. Well, yeah, you're right
But for Peyton that was new and you know, he's like he came back and he was like game one
I felt great by the way
He looked pretty good in game one. He's like the next two games. I kind of hit a bit of a wall
Well, it was really interesting here
So one he does say that he is frustrated with the minutes restriction
Which again, I think that minute restriction is something being placed on him
Because then he says but you know what it's probably best for my health
I think they're looking to ramp me up in this next game. We'll just have to wait and see but
So you think he thinks he should be playing more minutes
I think he kind of hedged it. I felt because I kind of felt like he's like yeah, I want to play
But you know, it probably is best for my health that I'm not but but he framed it as like
The minute restriction has been given to him. Of course. I mean, that's what it is. That's what usually happens
He's frustrated. He's frustrated by it
In these on the record comments and just talking to him a bit in the locker room sideals here in there
It's just he when he left he was scoring 20 points for game for this team
And now it's like hey, you're off the bench and
There might not be a rhythm to your rotation
And it's just gonna he wants to come back and contribute the way he was contributing
And that's just not what's on the table for him right now this second
So that's the source of frustration
But the thing is I feel like it should be like he should be the main score
He should be the main focus of the second unit as far as offense is concerned
I just don't like him as the ball yet. Yeah, I just like to me. It's like I don't see that as his ultimate
form the thing that sucks is he might actually be the best option there
But he's still a not a good option the problem is the other options are Julian
Like I just watch his mental power being used on things like
Getting the ball out and trying to get it over to Tim and it's a lazy pass and it's suffix like
When he was at his his apex is he as I remember it was like he and Jamal were playing off each other
And he was able to get him the ball in space and he was able to knock down
You know mid-range shots also hit the three-point shot also be able to slash and and you know slam and
You know all that stuff. It's just like I don't to me. It's like putting him in this position
It's just like not the best for him. I think the one
area where I disagree on this is
Peyton in January became a prolific driver
There are not a lot of drivers on this team Jamal Murray is one in fact
It's part of what's been their issue with beating the front on yoke it
She could just use yoke it just a screener and try to get to the rim Jamal's like
Maybe the only guy on the roster you do that with so I think for Peyton there is something to
Getting the most out of his offense could mean
Penetrating the perimeter defense driving getting them to collapse and making plays
so I
I think that's I do like the idea of the ball in Peyton's hands not to play point guard
But to drive an attack it's just to bring the ball. This is totally like you know
There's a group of people and there's a heart attack. It is like they're a doctor here. You're like well
I'm a dental assistant
So you're closer like you do the job and that's kind of what it is is who's going to bring the ball up
Well Peyton can kind of dribble. All right. Well, you got to do it because no one else can
But then you see I mean there's so many times in the last couple games again very small sample size
It's just like I don't remember him playing this role
Successfully early perhaps I just don't remember but you just see him like
He's like I haven't done anything. I need I'm gonna call one here like I'm gonna make this happen
You can see that yeah, he's like I'm gonna go and then like ends up some crazy circus shot
Bro, I know what you're trying to do is just like we're also not that far removed from a bench unit
That would not score for five minutes at a time and so I think there is a level
I think your point though
I can agree with you if your point is
Having him even if he is the best option as the bring-up ball handler
He's also the better option of all these other things and it's like you know
I actually have to suck it bringing the ball up
Yeah, the floor and have the Bruce do it or somebody else do it because it's it's not worth to make him do that as well
But I will say the one thing
He also said was that conditioning has big and the biggest challenge and he said the first game back
I felt amazing amazing second game back felt amazing third and fourth game
I kind of felt like how I did during those rehab days
Meaning that like it starts to get a little tight again and your later muscles are just getting stronger. So
It's just something to monitor. I think he's gonna play really well down the stretch. That's kind of my opinion. I just think it's uh
But I do also feel for the fact that tomorrow night
He might be the backup center whereas last game
He was the backup point guard right and there's nobody else on the roster that besides yoke it's really yoke it
It was seek early and look what happened there like just no role like right exactly
And if you don't have this if it changes every time that's really hard to do as as opposed to a guy like Tim Hardaway
Which is literally just shoot the ball when you touch it if you touch the ball shoot it
We got to take a break a lot more from practice though. We'll get to it all on the other side
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Peyton was asked what the biggest focus should be down the stretch and he said what I thought was very interesting
Which is just find a sense of togetherness. I don't think we're very together right now specifically on the defensive end
Which I always talk about connection is the Denver Nuggets is super power in the Yokech era. He's the super connector
But the team but him saying that's where we have to come together to me is actually had a noteworthy. You guys agree?
For sure. I mean that was on we've been talking a lot about the defense a lot that last game not the Golden State game
The one before that would they who they lose who do you put it before that before Golden State
Utah Utah. Yeah, that last Utah game
That day one, but I can't remember more guys like being frustrated with their teammates
About miscommunications defensively and that's pretty crazy to be happening
You know in the last 10 games of the season
So they are not connected right now. They're not on the same page especially on the defensive end of the four
I thought that was so obvious in that jazz game
Yeah, and it's it is not comforting to hear them vocalize that especially to the media
I don't love that that doesn't make me feel great
But it doesn't necessarily I mean it wasn't a complaint. He was literally asked the question
I don't mean it like that like it's just more so that that is the first thing that comes to mind is that we're not connected
You obviously great. Well, it it obviously yes, it passes that eye test
But you know for me anyway, I just chalk it up to like more effort based stuff
To hear them say like we're not on the same page. I mean it looks like that, but I yep, you know
I don't know you want to hear it
I didn't want to hear I did like this one though from from Peyton when he was asked about
Adelman says that the team has been close for a while even in the losses and I kind of like this one
He says I think we just kind of be honest with ourselves as a team like wins and losses do reflect how you play and how seriously you take the game
Basically not contradicting it, you know, but just saying look man
I don't think you can say you're playing well if you're losing you to win is what tells you you're playing well
And I kind of liked and he went on to say that you did think that they're close and that there's some progress being made
But I just thought it was an interesting counter to what we've been hearing 100%
Process is great part of the process is finishing games getting it done
It is a results-based business. I thought that was a really refreshing answer
Especially because of how we framed it reflect how seriously you take the game because it does feel like
And then I'll get to worse losses this year
There's a real sense of unsuriusness about so I liked that answer
It was honest and then on cam johnson who we also interviewed today
He did a little workout after after practice today
With some shooting stuff and then came and talked and he said he was asking about defensive improvement
And there's a little bit I thought of a leading the question leading the witness question, you know
I got teams playing better defense. He said something like it's hard to say
That we have I think we know where we need to meaning I'm not saying we're playing good defense
But I do think it's getting closer to us understanding so he says we just need to get a little bit better at understanding our objectives
That's all it is understanding what your objectives are defensively offensively whether that's getting into the ball
Forcing turnovers speeding them up getting them out of sets or just containing them
We just need to have that identified when we step on the court
What I like about this one is this is true and
The NBA you can't take everything away
You have to have an identity are we just trying to contain right now or we trying to say no threes right
We try to say pick up ball handlers and get into him and you might get blown by for layups
But force turnovers and him saying like that's where we have to improve and he says we are
We're getting better at knowing what it is. We're supposed to be doing but stop short of saying we're actually doing it
Well, I mean breaking news. I will say the nuggets on their six game win streak are all the way up to 19th defensively over the last
20 all the way from 21st
No, this is just over their last six games. No, I know. I'm saying that on the year they're 21st right up to 19
Yeah, they progress. I mean, that's that's pretty significant for this team
They had a munder in there. They didn't have a munder
Well, this last game. I think everybody agrees the nuggets finally did play deep. I mean, that's right coming off of a game with some momentum
So yes, I think if you squint you can see quarters and even have sometimes
But you have squint though. You do have to squint you do have to squint
Was that
There's got to be a season. I know
Uh on it season for sure on his back spasms. Well, actually one more thing on here
Is that specifically what about the defense they need to shore up?
And he said some of it is picking up our guys in transition
That helped yeah, and some of it is is communicating guys and he's like and that's it
And I kind of push back on him on this because to me
If you don't pick up a guy in transition that doesn't you solve that you might suck in the half court
Yeah, and so I kind of said like are you sure you know that
Because he's like everything behind that takes care of himself and I kind of challenged it
Like are you sure so does he think they're closer than we might think he did he did think they were closer than then
Then do they know that the defender or is he the offensive player should never be the closest one to the basket
Because sometimes I don't feel like the hard part with like reading off quotes, you know
They're kind of taking these into joke. He's giving thoughtful answer
I don't want to make people think I'm putting words in the game Johnson's mouth
But when he says like communicating and picking up a transition to me
That's like the first line of defense
And if you fail at that one you don't know if you're second third line of defense is working right
Well, those are the two things that like everybody should be doing regardless, you know
Exactly the first two things you do on defense or is that and maybe he went right to it because it's come up a lot in film sessions or practices
I will say to the point in transition
We talk so much about the nuggets and turnovers and how it kills them
Go look up turnover percentages league wide the nuggets are elite at protecting the ball
You know what they're horrible at
Not converting those to stops like when they turn it over
They hemorrhage points. Yeah, some teams turn it over get back on defense and the points off of turnovers are in as big a deal
Denver turns it over and they go well
Just got to get him back on the other end
They are they are hemorrhaging points in transition. I mean that that to me is the stuff where it's like
Okay, I feel like the playoffs. They will actually when they won't just be like
Well, but this was kind of my question was in the playoffs
It's like all right now we're gonna pick guys up and we're gonna communicate
But it's like yeah, but are you sure that works like that'll stop the first punch
But just the second three punch ready to go for the playoffs. We don't know
It's probably play the games at it is why we plan he did say of his back spasms though that they pop out out of nowhere
And they usually go away quickly
He had the one where he was able to return to the game right then it sounds like it's sometimes just a very short
You know go bit of the back you have to do some stretches you have to what do you say compression or compression? Yeah
Impression stuff and then you can go back into the game
So it sounds like they never or at least rarely last more than a day
And often or something he can go to the back and take care of albeit if it happens at halftime
Can you even come back in time with the games on this last one by the time I was ready to come back in the game
Was already put away the guys took care of it
So at least gives us a little insight that if he gets a back spasm thing he could return
That's great to know do you believe you guys get back spasms? I don't I've never got a back spasm
I'm wondering if it's I'm looking at it's like it's it like you're
You compress and really it doesn't hurt
Was it just like it's very painful I think yeah, is it yeah, it's like it's on the face
He makes when he has this is like basically I'm telling you I saw Will Barton get back spasms
During the national anthem after warm-ups and look he went he fell to the ground instantly in pain
It's very painful. There's there's very little like back pain. It's just like it's like when you wake up
But then you're have a calf that's just it's probably similar to that
Yeah, it's worse because your entire body reacts and it's your back. Yeah, yeah
Adam and did say though when he talked about the defense
He says it's been very inconsistent this year
He said there's a lot of different reasons for why he thinks that is
But he thought that the Golden State game especially in the second half and honestly throughout that game
I thought the attention that was given to that side of the balls where it needs to be
And I think our guys understand that if you want to look for a silver lining again
I think these guys aren't gonna proclaim anything which is good. Yeah, but I do think that there's at least a hope of all right
They just did it they had a blowout win the guys all understand that's why it was a blowout
So we'll see now if tomorrow against Utah if it's like all right
We know how to win by 20 points totally you just got to keep stacking some good defensive games
You know they had a good one against Golden State if they have another good one
I think that'd be really encouraging if they don't play defense against Utah
It's gonna be like all right whatever. Yeah, that Golden State game met nothing
Oh, well, and maybe to do lines point the San Antonio one will tell even more
I don't lose to Utah because it is entirely possible
They come out and have just another barn bird, you know real tough game against the jazz
And then Saturday their defense looks great
But I will say I would fill up better about them if they repeat the Golden State game going into the first game exactly
We just want to see it man like we've had a whole season of not seeing it it usually meaning the players
And now it means
The players playing like we know the players can play together
We have the best starting five maybe ever and we just get such a small taste of it over and over
We were just laughing like before the show
We'll probably literally have in the back half the season one game wherever one's together
We might not see it again like we won't see it again. We had one. It's why I've kind of
grown tired of the
Even after that that most recent jazz game out of minutes and something to the effect of like
That's March, you know like Brooklyn's almost beating the Lakers and stuff. I'm like everyone else can play the march
But we need to see we also have the January
It's not necessarily your phone, but it's where you it's where you are
And like December that was tough
And honestly if they were healthy in January you guys they if you go back and look at that schedule
They may be lose one game. I know and that's the buzz saw month would allows you to put some benefit of the doubting to this whole operation
Having not gotten that I would like to see it in March. I know we got sod. Yeah
We did get sod last note I have here and I this is where I love Adam and
He was asked about the value of home court advantage. You usually say game seven's on your own court
This or that he always has a different answer for this then it makes sense
He said I would say the advantage of having the first game at home to me as you stay in your routine
You have a week to prepare for those first two games. You're no you're at home
And maybe up to 10 days at home as opposed to starting that tournament in a hotel room
It actually makes it
Do you like how we call it a turnip? No, I know he says it every time
Clearly a silver plant
A reporter was like doing the the play in tournaments. Yeah, he's like no, no the playoffs
Yeah, you don't have to call it a tournament even though Adam silver told you
He's like this is turning when I have I call it March Madness
I'll bet you this is a vestige of his time at what is it modern day? What was the school?
He was like that's the that's the total like a high school like an old high school
Conference they would call me and I do not tell you I promise Adam silver has been referring to this in
Memo's because it's the in-season tournament the play in tournament and the post season
I think I think March Madness gets that
Yeah, I know
But I do like this idea that it is true man
It is quite the advanced especially our team that's been on the road and they've been home a lot now
And they'll be on home for the next 12 days to then get another 10 days
You're talking about a team that's been on the road for five straight months to get what would effectively be
Straight days at home leading into the first round to me would actually be
Revolutionary for this team
And so I actually think more so than game seven or anything else
That is the real value of having a good court advantage going into the round for Trump. Yeah
Do you remember ripe for the finals when the nuggets had like a week off here? Yeah
Yoke had a couple pool days
We're all just sitting right out waiting for Celtics to finish up
There was like that press conference in Denver where yoke just like walks in in a tank top
I was like man, they're gonna run the heat out of the gym every seat
Well, and then they actually lost game to at home
So I don't know if that's a best example
Yeah, but they came out with a statement in game one and I think that a lot of that might have been because they were at home
And just so comfortable and relaxed to think about it though man
They're gonna have they had practice today
They're probably gonna have practice Friday because they have two days off before the Saturday game
And then you have a week of games and then you get a week off and then if you're at home
They might have more practice in a three and a half week stretch than they've had in the previous four months more days at home
Even in that stress than they think about us
Today, I woke up. I'm like, I'm okay. Come relax a little bit
And I'm like, yeah, I mean you don't go to a restaurant before it's about to close
The practice is too though. I mean this is anecdotal and I'm sure someone will if they if they've been watching it
Measuring it correct me, but they seem to me so much better when they've had a few days to talk about things
For sure defense and talk about physicality
So hopefully that all swells at the right time here. Well
Speaking of reason for optimism and home court advantage
The Minnesota Timberwolves and Houston Rockets both are struggling with some adversity the rockets because they suck the Timberwolves
Nobody has talked about this which we'll talk about on the other side jaded McDaniel's this week to week
That's even worse than day to day how do they fly under the radar for everybody kind of a big deal for your Denver Nuggets
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segment three. We're just discussing food
Uh, jade McDaniels is week to week here with I believe a very similar injury to what
Nikola Yokech suffered bone bruise in fact the official wording for it
I'm trying to look it up right now as we're talking the official wording for it is that
I can't remember what it's called. How come I can't pull it up here? Well Yokes was a bone bruise
Well, that's a chin and then bone yeah, but you know, that's never what they say, but they didn't say yeah, they didn't say any more extension
No, no, no, no, they have there's a there's an actual word for it, but they didn't for Yokech is what I'm saying
Oh, I see they just said they only listed him as bone bruise. Yeah, um, patelli tendinopathy
Okay, patelli tendinopathy at week to week here. Well, first of all, there's only two weeks left in the season less than that
There's 12 days left in the season right so week to week automatically puts you you know
Against it you get a week off after that, but here's the thing man
We know that when you miss time you come back you it's just like your you question especially a knee injury
I'm looking at this one and going first of all they're at this moment a half game ahead of Houston
And they have two teams against games against tanking teams remaining and I think five against games
They could lose including the Houston Rockets
Him just missing those games automatically puts him behind the eight ball
And then you say they're going to go into a first round series potentially against Denver
Even if they have him it's fresh off of injury and without playing for two or three weeks
I look at I don't know why people aren't talking about this. This is akin to Aaron Gordon being out
You know, I look at that and say Minnesota. I'm not counting them out of course
But they are significantly weakened both in the regular season and in the postseason right now
Especially defensively jade mcdans is awesome defensively. Yeah, he's a really good player through
I mean like I still look at him as the
Is where I think p-watt ultimately will land which is that caliber of player which I view is very high
Not like the star star of your team, but like what would you guess he shoots from three
jade mcdans I mean
Against the nuggets 200 percent. I don't know like he shoots 42 percent. That's unreal
I'm just saying like is you saying we see defensively and it is he is a defensive guy
But he's a good offensive player 15 points per game in 42 percent from three and he's an efficient point that sweet spot
Right that guy that can be 50 percent from three 52 percent from the field 42 percent from three like he he's a good offensive player
And he is the type of guy that when you try to play small against him
You know like or we try to match up a small gets him he smothers him because he's so long and then the other direction
He does the thing where he like dribble to the center of the paint and then just jump over
Yeah, he's and like gets to the pain. So to me he's he's a huge part of their team
And I actually look at this and if I were a wolf fan, I'd be like damn man. Oh, there's no way we're doing it
Is that the only reason I say defensively is because
I think about it in terms of the nuggets and like jade mcdans on Jamal Murray. It's like one of his most difficult
You know, but just one of those guys that absolutely can
Smother him and also he like when he and aunt decide that they're going to lock down Jamal Murray
They can do it. Yeah, and he was the primary guy for Michael Porter on these years and really shut Michael Porter down
Like he he was one of the guys that could do that as well. So that's what made it tough
But here's the other thing he missed the first matchup
In the championship season and the nuggets win in five he was back for the next one. They lose in seven
I just look at this and I say that series. He punched a wall member. Oh, that's right right before the play
I totally don't know how bloody was it that he was he was he was he that was at the very start of his career
So he wasn't talking about that punching the wall. Yeah, it was the last game of the year
Right that's exactly it. Yeah
Thing here um
Houston now in Minnesota. I just look at it and say even with his injury even assuming he comes back
He's still going to be hobbled and rusty and whatever
Then there has to beat those two teams
Like there's just no like I was a tough year this shut
No, man. Those two teams are hobbled and I look at it and say Denver should be
Comfortable favorites now in my opinion against Minnesota. I think so too. I honestly
Was feeling a lot better about the wolves matchup before this news. I know it's not
I think there's still a little bit of residual I guess PTSD from the way it went for a year and a half there
Against one three and one against them this year. I know regular season isn't
You know confirmation of how posted and series will go
And that fourth game without Aaron Gordon like I got some texts from wolves reporters like
Why are you guys freaking out? We're sitting here thinking we should have won that game by more, you know
So I just think this matchup has changed
I would have said Denver in six probably
If it's no McDaniel's I think you have a chance at five and that really really really matters
If you get out of this first round in five games
I think you can do against Houston and maybe against the hobbled wolves
I think your chances jump off your chances jump up. Yeah, I actually I to me this is big news
And I'm kind of surprised it's just gone under the right. I mean, there's so many things to talk about right now
Listen, we're gonna talk about what about expansion
tanking
MBPM truly we're in MBPCs and to be honest one more news and notes though before we get to the MBT and that is that ESPN
ESPN this isn't like
Michael Scoto or you know, so some
ESPN says that on
LeBron James is preferred destinations for next season Denver's on the list now
This is kind of the classic we're about to go into the playoffs. Let's make the lead story LeBron
This is the rich Paul move for LeBron, but I swear to god
I know we've done this a lot so I mean what what is this story exactly six free agency options by Dave McManaman
Okay, six free agency options and they believe in
their shares
Dave McManaman thinks LeBron James would go all the way to Denver
Hmm, that's interesting
All the way to Denver. I'm telling you I don't think it's crazy and here's the weird thing about LeBron
Because we're gonna do this again. I'm sure in the offseason. It'll become pop up again
But I know but I'm just gonna do it right now. Here's my point on LeBron
You guys know I've been a hater for him. I believe he's my favorite player for many years
I've been a hater since he's been an LA. I am so impressed with him this year
And I've been saying this
He has become a elite role player this year. It's so weird. I never thought he would
I just thought he would always need to be the main guide. It would be hard for him to do this
The way he has kind of turned into Aaron Gordon. Yeah, it has been really impressive
And at least now I'm just watching it going. Oh, yeah
No, it's interesting the role he's taken. I mean this article is a massive nothing burger
I mean, I think that's pretty clear
Everybody knows he's going back to Cleveland and people are kind of just
Putting it out there a little bit, but everybody's scared to come out and say it
He's obviously going back to the cabs next year or Miami. It's the no, it's Cleveland
It's the only I don't think we'll take him back
It's the only place he can go. It is the cabs a hundred percent. You'll see
This this article he's not coming back coming to Denver. That's what if the cabs what if the cabs win the East this year
He's going there just what's going to happen
I don't know man. I do think that's most likely that is how it plays out
But at least are you is it we this story is always annoyed us in part because I think we are felt like it was there
Plus the LeBron experience would be terrible, but old LeBron said segwaying into elite role player. No
I'm out
Being like you know well the injuries are too much. Let's get off the Aaron Gordon train
Let's get 43-year-old LeBron Jones
This way you do like they can play my if you're like in the
What is the soccer league that we have the MSO with the MLS
And you just bring over you just bring over Messy or one of these guys that used to be something
But before that it was Beckham before that it was like these guys that are like oh, yeah, I'm still good like let's do it
I'm going to go out of record and just say put a pen in this put a pen in this good. I think it would work
I mean, I want to go on record and say there's a 0% chance of this happening. I can't believe me
I'm surprised wind of all the record on record doing this one. It's just so obviously a nothing burger man
This article it's the LeBron. I'm telling you it's every year the LeBron has the problem is that we just keep
Doing this over now anytime. There's some LeBron thing. It's like uh time to start seeing and like now
It's like we don't care anymore, man. We're so beaty the NBA has beat us down. We don't care about anything
We certainly don't care about the MVP and I'll tell you why we don't care about it
Because when I log into the apps today, I like bet 365 and I look at the odds for MVP
Shea Gilges Alexander minus 300
He's the favorite minus 300 feels like a lock
Victor women Yama's plus 225. He's second look at Dodgers third plus 1500
Nicoliokitch is down there for that plus
6000 which is basically a way of saying not even a chance. He would win MVP now
Here's what's crazy about this to me. I don't think yokes the MVP this year
And I whatever
But man plus 6000 behind look at don't I know don't be mad at the top three is who else is that plus 6000 like nobody
He is company. No way. He's Jalen Bray. He's hanging out with Jalen Brown. Okay, but Jalen Brown's at 25,000
So it's like there is a huge drop off after four
Who's after Yokech?
Jalen Brown. That's what I'm saying is 6,000 to 25,000. Yeah, so it really drops after that
But it kind of really drops after three. It's really a three man race according to the to the apps. Yeah
I hate this part of the NBA so much. I can't stand this part of the NBA
I mean some part of me makes me some part of it makes me happy that we're like not embroiled in this anymore
But it's also an outrage like an absolute outrage that
Nicoliokitch is going to average a triple double as a center his best statistical season ever
Two years in a row and he's getting further away from being MVP because obviously the nuggets have not had a good great year
And you can just discount them by just being like I don't play defense and that's kind of the end of it
The MVP I've just learned this the MVP voters like scoring and they like novelty
I think I think there's something they also like teams winning games
Which I think fair I by the part I think is fair and it's part of what hurts Yokech this season even in the Luca conversation
Since unfortunately then the Lakers of or whatever right even though it's only going to be end up by one game
When it all shakes out. I think
But you know what this reminds me of though because this is what it is
I'm with most people in the chat with you like we don't care
But this is like that scene in jingo you remember seen in jingo after they've kind of been outed and then
Leo's character is like hold on a deal's not a deal. That's what this is
It's like it we're like all right, whatever he's not MVP this year. Now. It's like no. He's fourth. Yeah, it's like hold on hold on
Yeah, no, I actually agree with that. I do that is fourth
No, no like that if you go Yoke doesn't win this year. I'm like look between all the games
And just how voter fatigue works like I like I'm not gonna lose sleep over this one
I am a little annoyed that he's out of the top three. I think that's egregious
He is it's like if you don't stand him obnoxiously and annoyingly then that off this like I know
I know that's why we that's why we went so hard all those years
I completely agree as the chat points out. It's pretty crazy to be number one in assist and rebounds in the NBA
There's a million of these uh, there's a million of these
Well, that's a pretty basic one and like nobody's ever done that before and then he's a prolific scorer on top of it
I personally feel like watching Yoke it's this year between missing some of the games and just the weird
Call it two weeks when he came back. Yeah, what I say it's his best season despite his numbers. I don't think so
But it's really really really good and it is I think a little bit of the
Lebron like a peak Lebron you just sort of go
Like if if anyone else has Lebron's numbers for a month you start talking about how well they're playing
You know and I always if who I Leonard for a month put up the numbers that Yoke it just put well
Hold on a second because he just won player the week and I want to talk about those numbers
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Yeah, I could see the fight
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Final segment here real quick. Nikolay Oakich is your current western conference player the week. How did he do it here?
Well, he put up 26 points 17 rebounds and 14 assists and sound that value for me. No, that was his average over a four game span
26 17 and 14 yeah, and I think we talked about it on the post game show the other night how he's playing at half speed
He's in second. He's still waiting to flip the switch
56% from the field 44% from deep so for now
Here's the truth of the MVP thing that I've learned over time one the NBA straw pole really has ruined it as has the internet and everything else because we really do exist
You know, I always talk about my god
I didn't come from journalism
But I got into it through this and it was funny because one of the first things I experienced was the table
You know the table at Paul arena you sit around and you talk and you back in the day was all football
But it was amazing how all the media would sit there and talk until they all came to the center
You know like what's our opinion? You know, and it was like boom. We all worked it out
I would just watch this and I'd be like what?
What's this happened?
Everybody just talked until everyone could agree usually with the loudest or most forceful voice in the room
Right. This is the MVP the MVP honestly. It's just about nobody wants to look dumb
Yeah, nobody wants to be on the outside and right now there's momentum and here's how it works
I think this is the truth of Yoke just season
I think the first month of the season you could have made the case it was as good as he's ever been yes agreed
He was unbelievable just felt effortless everything else a lot of adversity hit the roster
And then he gets hurt he goes out and when he comes back
So the first time we'd ever seen him kind of playing injured and I don't think he played well on top of that
I think Yoke it flopped more this season than he ever has. Yeah
I think he jawed with officials more than he has since probably 2019 or 2020
And those things bother me and the team has struggled and I think some of it comes from that
lately
He's been playing great again and his numbers are as we pointed out historically great
That's the story is that MVP worthy in my opinion? No because I think Shay and you can make a case for Wimbee
They they have a better case here
That's what we've put in the like we're around the table
That's what we've put out
What everybody has heard has been like oh he sucks this year
Count what oh he just hands the ball off. He doesn't do anything. That's he's terrible
He's got a bad attitude
Bopped all her play like this is what everybody here's you like hold on
No, we said he has average in 28 13 and 11 leading the league and rebrandes the cities and greatest offensive all time
And all these different things that part hasn't got and then this Luca thing
I'm telling you Luca
Had what the worst of what we had with Yokech this year Luca had it but for longer your only difference is recently
I was at the start of the year recently
He's been very good and the Lakers media just loves to play the self it everybody loves righteous indignation
They're playing the card right now. I saw I saw that the the Laker they they you know the Lakers might be talked about more favorably
You guys if so much of the media wasn't from the east bro
We talked about this on the show the other day at all time
This is like Anthony Erwin. I'll call him out my guy Anthony Erwin. It was just like this
This is why if you just notice if you guys ever notice everyone hates the Lakers in media
Yeah, you got to be kidding me, man
It was a good reminder to myself before I put anything we're out there to ask myself
If I've lost my mind or not. You know what I mean?
Just double check with myself
Anyway, that's what this is and that's why this this vote and this thing here
I'm just like why is Yoke forth and it's like oh, that's right
It's a big table and the loud voices have convinced everyone did not be outside the box here
We got a vote for this is the order that has to go ahead. It's insane to me
The only thing that'll make it feel better is if Yoke is just murders all these dudes in the playoffs. Yep
That's what he's got to do. I was about to say I feel like we need to we're now in an era
where we need to have
Four or five guys that are officially in the running and the one that gets the furthest in the playoffs wins it
Oh, that's kind of interesting. We don't call it MVP. It's just like the furthest of the good players the champion
What no the MVP but like they it's just I just
This you never realize these these these these are the first-est world of problems where
You don't realize what it's like to have a top player in the NBA
That is so different and dominant from anybody else that else that's really come before him
And what it's like to just be on this side of just hearing this nonsense about this guy just like the political
Propaganda side of the NBA that is just a non-stop machine all the time and
It does get exhausting where you're like I don't really want to fight for this anymore. I he's got three
But it is to wins point over and over like
The MVP is important it really does establish what people's legacies are and all of these conversations always boil down to
Three or four things you just rattle off the flip side of all of this and we've outlined this before
setting the stage
You do this you run through the gauntlet you knock a couple of these guys off
Let's let you tell there's a lakeers or something so easy and you in a title right which seems ambitious to think of in a dream of now
But just put it on the table you come back. You are winning next to his MVP
Yeah, they don't you know it'll that would be the apology
Are you kidding me if they this is what if they win the championship this year
I think yoke has three more potential in the piece and I'm like the tail on it is so long
He could then follow that up with the worst November December of his life and you couldn't touch him
You wouldn't be able to touch him. Yeah, this is exactly how it works. It's annoying
But the truth is there's nothing to win other than please go through all of these
I know that's that's the way
Because there's a lot of these holes there is a world in which you could go through Luka and then
Wembee and then Shay and I'll be like well, I guess we solved that one, you know
I don't think it'll be that way
My favorite kind of old guy in bass horizon when they talk about like well
There's the NBA race or the scoring race and then they met in the playoffs in this guy
I just don't they found each other I'd I in the tournament the tournament the big tournament
March van is he's like you know
It's just so funny how yoke
His had just these like little minor minor things that have annoyed me personally. I mean on the show
It's not that I don't need to and if you you share that it's like oh, you know, it's a dude
Mollhill wall you especially mouth because you're the yeah, you're the like the
Mouthpiece of yoghurt so if you had it between you if you show weakness, it's over for him
It's so funny because it sounds dumb, but it's the truth it is the truth like my job isn't to show strict or weaknesses to give opinions
But if the opinion does show a crack it's like well, yeah, I don't like even even Morris
This guy's a joke. It's because we got the other side over here being like how come everyone hates my guy when he's been perfect
Do you think he should say he's the MVP? That seems to be what people are doing lately. Just rename it the all yoke itch
Kind of Tim Legler. Yeah, I guess I have to pivot pretend. I never levied any criticisms. I just start talking about
We can't this is when yeah, when people yell at us for being too negative. They're right. We can't we can't
Give any criticism of yoke itch because everyone will take it and run so from that point forward
He's perfect. He's never done anything wrong. You guys are idiot. He's actually never yelled at a rap
Especially when he's not
Yeah, he's perfect in every way all the time he's Jesus if you go against him then you're Judas that's it
Chats is a good point and actually Adam's I mean in a weird way kind of is
This is the future of media by the way everyone is just like you know, we just all go hard with
Propagate. It's just pure propaganda. What do you mean that's the future?
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Idris yadris iad rz covering on my bases. What are the odds? The nuggets have secured home court plan on flying out for game 1 and 2
But don't want to book flights. They're on
They don't book flights. They got a charter. They go. No, he said he does. Oh, I see he's worried about
I said you're a question. He's worried about their travel. I'm afraid to say this too confidently, but I'm pretty sure
I think they're getting that foreseed. I mean that's
They're probably likely to get the foreseed right now not locked in by any. Let's just wait till after tomorrow's game because god
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