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We got a great show.

I'm excited for today's show, man.

We had practice, which I thought was interesting.

Vote and I were there.

We haven't talked about it yet.

On purpose.

Because I want to see if we had the same takeaways.

My hunch is no.

That's what makes it great.

I can't wait for this.

You can't live.

You guys can't wait.

You guys can debate.

Things in our life happen.

We don't talk about it on purpose.

Because I just, I just don't really want to talk to you.

I just don't really want to share too much.

But LeBron James is coming to Denver.

I also saw that.

League Insiders are saying that's the word on the insiders

are talking.

Jaded McDaniels week to week.

I feel like this story.

Nobody's talking about this one.

And I'm like, how is nobody talking about this?

First of all, what does that mean?

They're all talking about LeBron to Denver.

We'll go over what that means.

Because I actually think it's a huge deal.

And then, of course, our headline topic,

which we'll do at the very end of the show, of course.

The MVP conversation is officially annoyed me.

No, it's just now.

Just now, I'm annoyed.

Is it because of that DM I sent last night to you guys?

It was up there.

Although March 31st, pretty late in the year.

It's still late in the year for you to have lost it.

I was like, I'm above it.

I don't care.

And then here we are.

12 days to go in the season.

And I'm like, these, these a holes, man.

Also, because these straw poll coming out,

voted in the straw polls.

We'll talk about that.

But this is more on the nuggets, the current state of the nuggets.

And to talk about that, we brought in Brenda vote.

I feel like, and this is, I'll be honest here,

I think we are four of the better choices

to bring in to talk about the Denver Nuggets.

I think we got the right guys in the house.

Let's get after it.

Easily, over here, D-Line Co.

That's right.

I couldn't agree more.

All right.

There it is.

The energy through the roof.

Hat backwards.

There's no end to that.

Yeah, it's the kind of day it is, man.

It's six game winning streak, Tuesday vibes.

Yeah.

Yeah, the gaming Utah coming up.

I know, the big Utah head man.

It's kind of is a big massive game.

It's going to be a, a white knuckle for sure.

Bro, nobody watches Utah.

So nobody, nobody, nobody knows what's going on.

Oh, I know what's going on here.

Every gate, I'm telling you, the Utah Jazz

are a, I'll say 38 win team.

That somehow managed to win 16 games this year.

Yeah.

They have done the greatest taking job

of ever seen every game.

It's almost like they're proving they can beat you.

And then they just loose.

But who amongst the TikTok generation?

Yeah.

The people watch the Jazz or listen to Jazz more.

Oh, man, that is great question.

We should be honest, we're just probably

asking you about that.

The truth is, the truth is, never listen to Jazz.

Can I ask you, Harrison, what is the Tuesday vibe?

It's this, OK.

It's an off day.

This is kind of waiting around for a big game tomorrow night.

Seven in a row potentially?

Right at the clock situation.

It's Tuesday.

Tuesday vibe.

Same as Monday.

Wednesday or Thursday. We're waiting for Friday with Utah really quick. That last game. I used to say that

Organization is tanking players don't yeah, the roster not playing guys in the fourth quarter

They were getting great looks all game in the final five minutes started and they were just like what about this one?

It's because they know man

It's because these teams know they are supposed to lose it gets in your head

It probably does it has to get in your head

Well also that their owner is like so progressive in the in like the in the diagonal annoying way

Where it's like he's no

Oh, he has no

He has no problem gaming the system. He's he's he's like a you know, he's like a tech guy. He loves gaming everything

It is true. I do think it gets in your head and here's the big thing man season ends in 12 days

He realized that we have two weeks left and this week. There's only the one game Wednesday tomorrow against Utah

So really next week is the final week of the NBA season. We should follow the center, too

But yeah, bro. Nobody's talking about this except for me every single show. I know there's tournament this idea

That we had and season tournament set a team back to backs in 15 weeks

And then all of a sudden the last week of the seasons here. It's like you have no games

I mean, and then a break a week between

Who made the schedule that you did for one game in six days. Oh well, it doesn't matter

Let's go to practice notes because there's a lot there and before we get into what I teased we do have some injury news

Here's the entry dues air and Gordon practiced today. Okay. Okay good to know and I'm told you look good today

His comfort level seemed like it was a good place with the calf

So I'm hoping he'll play tomorrow. This is David Adamin. We didn't go very hard today. Obviously, but yeah, it was good to see him out there for sure

To me that is I'm gonna call that medium. I'm hopeful he'll play it sounds like he was in good spirits

But he woke up game day gave it a go and was like man, it's feeling tricky again. So

At to me, I would say this is a concern

This is a storyline that Aaron Gordon was a late scratch in that game

If that nobody was expecting but it's a good sign that he was able to participate in practice and at the moment

The plan is to play him, but we'll have to see how he feels tomorrow

Well, that sounds like to me. He's playing

Sounds like to me. He's good to go pretty much

I mean wearing another game day scratch. Is that what do you think?

I think well Aaron always wants to go that's the first layer of this that you have

He's extreme most of these guys do but Aaron is very very eager after his last two seasons

So he's always going to try

It's no guarantee, but I mean, it's certainly better than the alternative of hearing that Aaron Gordon did not suit up for sure

So I mean look at you top. Maybe you could get away with it. Uh, I don't know

Well on the count of they will let you in the final five minutes. Bro, I'm telling you

They're so good in the first half though. Yeah, there are there are first three quarter till as I saw the last game

I'm with you, but then in the final five minutes they found a way. Yeah, I'm just

I think mediums that I'm not don't think it necessarily means he's going to play

But I would be really concerned if we were coming in here and be like yeah, he didn't even suit up

So the bad news though is that Zeke and Spence did not participate in practice

And I felt like the way that Adam and talked about him was almost a resignation of like yeah, when we're out without those guys now

Not as just as in for tomorrow, but I actually he said they're going to be day-to-day

But to me it felt more like the way he was talking about I asked him a question about the rotation

And experiment and he almost made it sound like well, we're gonna have to now because without Zeke and Spence

Yeah, I mean he mentioned Jonas Valentinus

He is the gears already turning in there of what does this look like without those two guys

Day-to-day is one of those things that I think you could technically kind of just say

If you're not sure yeah, it's day-to-day

You know monitoring hamstring tightness day-to-day that makes sense

Zeke I'm no doctor. I am a little bit more skeptical on that one

Just again, he did leave the arena with the assistance of crutches after that last game

He left very quickly as we know. Yeah, but it was quick

But it was quick got out there in a hurry. He did day-to-day. I would be very encouraging for Zeke

But I got the scene I didn't it didn't sound to me like yeah, and they could be ready tomorrow

Yeah, and that's kind of the sense I get when you just mentioned the lineup part here. He said

With Zeke and Spence out they could play big with Val again

I mean he's already thinking about how are we gonna close the year?

He said we could go back to playing big with Val you could see Peyton that center

Which is you know is interesting is his minutes ramped up

But then he also referred to playing Cam and Jamal of the stagger as putting them in a tough spot

But he said but we're gonna just have to but we have to we're gonna do it

So I just look at this as he's already thinking about okay if those guys are out

What does our rotation look like we might go back to beg Val maybe Peyton plays center or something like that

To me that is a person that is like man. I don't know what the status is of these guys

For sure, which is just more of the same by the way for him with that forward room

Which as he said after the last game. It's never just a guard and a center

It's always every position group all at once. I know. It's insane. Peyton out centers and treating to me

I want to see that and Utah's a good team to play that again. Yeah, it depends on the team

But yeah, I agree like at least you feel like if Spencer is able to do it and Aaron's able to do it like

Peyton at least has the length yep

So here's one thing because I want to go to Peyton and I really I brought this up on the last

The post game show it was a point of contention. I think a little bit with between you and me here Eric

But I really believe this one

What is Tim Hardaway Jr's role in this team shoot the rocks pretty simple. We all know it right very very direct

What's Peyton Watson's

To do everything. Yeah, he's kind of a do everything guy and this is the point is that it's we grade guys because they're both bench players

But you know this or that one guy it's like come in make shots shoot the ball. That's it whatever

Peyton is sometimes a starter sometimes not he's on this minute restriction

You know that that's tough so his minutes are really weird. He has to guard porzingus

Maybe play backup center, but also you're going to be the lead ball handler sometimes we need you to initiate the offense as well

Like he's tasked and his and it's not like it's one thing all year you've had this job right

It's that game by game you go into it and sometimes quarter by quarter like hey, you're starting tonight

Just fill in the gaps uh go back in now and we need you to be the lead ball handler and initiate offense

And so and on top of that you're coming back from injury in a minute restriction

And this is why for me

I'm just a little more patient with Peyton right now is I look at it

I'm like man

I just know what it's like when you don't have a defined role how hard it is to know what you're supposed to do

Possession by possession

And so that's why I actually am not too discouraged by what we've seen from here lately

Well, he's coming back to a situation that's different from when he left it right off the bat

So even just coming back to the bench without a minute restriction would be something to adjust to

Then you throw the minute restriction in there and as he outlined today

You know, not everyone has has missed six weeks of basketball in their career

Especially a player as young as Peyton have on this before. Well, yeah, you're right

But for Peyton that was new and you know, he's like he came back and he was like game one

I felt great by the way

He looked pretty good in game one. He's like the next two games. I kind of hit a bit of a wall

Well, it was really interesting here

So one he does say that he is frustrated with the minutes restriction

Which again, I think that minute restriction is something being placed on him

Because then he says but you know what it's probably best for my health

I think they're looking to ramp me up in this next game. We'll just have to wait and see but

So you think he thinks he should be playing more minutes

I think he kind of hedged it. I felt because I kind of felt like he's like yeah, I want to play

But you know, it probably is best for my health that I'm not but but he framed it as like

The minute restriction has been given to him. Of course. I mean, that's what it is. That's what usually happens

He's frustrated. He's frustrated by it

In these on the record comments and just talking to him a bit in the locker room sideals here in there

It's just he when he left he was scoring 20 points for game for this team

And now it's like hey, you're off the bench and

There might not be a rhythm to your rotation

And it's just gonna he wants to come back and contribute the way he was contributing

And that's just not what's on the table for him right now this second

So that's the source of frustration

But the thing is I feel like it should be like he should be the main score

He should be the main focus of the second unit as far as offense is concerned

I just don't like him as the ball yet. Yeah, I just like to me. It's like I don't see that as his ultimate

form the thing that sucks is he might actually be the best option there

But he's still a not a good option the problem is the other options are Julian

Like I just watch his mental power being used on things like

Getting the ball out and trying to get it over to Tim and it's a lazy pass and it's suffix like

When he was at his his apex is he as I remember it was like he and Jamal were playing off each other

And he was able to get him the ball in space and he was able to knock down

You know mid-range shots also hit the three-point shot also be able to slash and and you know slam and

You know all that stuff. It's just like I don't to me. It's like putting him in this position

It's just like not the best for him. I think the one

area where I disagree on this is

Peyton in January became a prolific driver

There are not a lot of drivers on this team Jamal Murray is one in fact

It's part of what's been their issue with beating the front on yoke it

She could just use yoke it just a screener and try to get to the rim Jamal's like

Maybe the only guy on the roster you do that with so I think for Peyton there is something to

Getting the most out of his offense could mean

Penetrating the perimeter defense driving getting them to collapse and making plays

so I

I think that's I do like the idea of the ball in Peyton's hands not to play point guard

But to drive an attack it's just to bring the ball. This is totally like you know

There's a group of people and there's a heart attack. It is like they're a doctor here. You're like well

I'm a dental assistant

So you're closer like you do the job and that's kind of what it is is who's going to bring the ball up

Well Peyton can kind of dribble. All right. Well, you got to do it because no one else can

But then you see I mean there's so many times in the last couple games again very small sample size

It's just like I don't remember him playing this role

Successfully early perhaps I just don't remember but you just see him like

He's like I haven't done anything. I need I'm gonna call one here like I'm gonna make this happen

You can see that yeah, he's like I'm gonna go and then like ends up some crazy circus shot

Bro, I know what you're trying to do is just like we're also not that far removed from a bench unit

That would not score for five minutes at a time and so I think there is a level

I think your point though

I can agree with you if your point is

Having him even if he is the best option as the bring-up ball handler

He's also the better option of all these other things and it's like you know

I actually have to suck it bringing the ball up

Yeah, the floor and have the Bruce do it or somebody else do it because it's it's not worth to make him do that as well

But I will say the one thing

He also said was that conditioning has big and the biggest challenge and he said the first game back

I felt amazing amazing second game back felt amazing third and fourth game

I kind of felt like how I did during those rehab days

Meaning that like it starts to get a little tight again and your later muscles are just getting stronger. So

It's just something to monitor. I think he's gonna play really well down the stretch. That's kind of my opinion. I just think it's uh

But I do also feel for the fact that tomorrow night

He might be the backup center whereas last game

He was the backup point guard right and there's nobody else on the roster that besides yoke it's really yoke it

It was seek early and look what happened there like just no role like right exactly

And if you don't have this if it changes every time that's really hard to do as as opposed to a guy like Tim Hardaway

Which is literally just shoot the ball when you touch it if you touch the ball shoot it

We got to take a break a lot more from practice though. We'll get to it all on the other side

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Peyton was asked what the biggest focus should be down the stretch and he said what I thought was very interesting

Which is just find a sense of togetherness. I don't think we're very together right now specifically on the defensive end

Which I always talk about connection is the Denver Nuggets is super power in the Yokech era. He's the super connector

But the team but him saying that's where we have to come together to me is actually had a noteworthy. You guys agree?

For sure. I mean that was on we've been talking a lot about the defense a lot that last game not the Golden State game

The one before that would they who they lose who do you put it before that before Golden State

Utah Utah. Yeah, that last Utah game

That day one, but I can't remember more guys like being frustrated with their teammates

About miscommunications defensively and that's pretty crazy to be happening

You know in the last 10 games of the season

So they are not connected right now. They're not on the same page especially on the defensive end of the four

I thought that was so obvious in that jazz game

Yeah, and it's it is not comforting to hear them vocalize that especially to the media

I don't love that that doesn't make me feel great

But it doesn't necessarily I mean it wasn't a complaint. He was literally asked the question

I don't mean it like that like it's just more so that that is the first thing that comes to mind is that we're not connected

You obviously great. Well, it it obviously yes, it passes that eye test

But you know for me anyway, I just chalk it up to like more effort based stuff

To hear them say like we're not on the same page. I mean it looks like that, but I yep, you know

I don't know you want to hear it

I didn't want to hear I did like this one though from from Peyton when he was asked about

Adelman says that the team has been close for a while even in the losses and I kind of like this one

He says I think we just kind of be honest with ourselves as a team like wins and losses do reflect how you play and how seriously you take the game

Basically not contradicting it, you know, but just saying look man

I don't think you can say you're playing well if you're losing you to win is what tells you you're playing well

And I kind of liked and he went on to say that you did think that they're close and that there's some progress being made

But I just thought it was an interesting counter to what we've been hearing 100%

Process is great part of the process is finishing games getting it done

It is a results-based business. I thought that was a really refreshing answer

Especially because of how we framed it reflect how seriously you take the game because it does feel like

And then I'll get to worse losses this year

There's a real sense of unsuriusness about so I liked that answer

It was honest and then on cam johnson who we also interviewed today

He did a little workout after after practice today

With some shooting stuff and then came and talked and he said he was asking about defensive improvement

And there's a little bit I thought of a leading the question leading the witness question, you know

I got teams playing better defense. He said something like it's hard to say

That we have I think we know where we need to meaning I'm not saying we're playing good defense

But I do think it's getting closer to us understanding so he says we just need to get a little bit better at understanding our objectives

That's all it is understanding what your objectives are defensively offensively whether that's getting into the ball

Forcing turnovers speeding them up getting them out of sets or just containing them

We just need to have that identified when we step on the court

What I like about this one is this is true and

The NBA you can't take everything away

You have to have an identity are we just trying to contain right now or we trying to say no threes right

We try to say pick up ball handlers and get into him and you might get blown by for layups

But force turnovers and him saying like that's where we have to improve and he says we are

We're getting better at knowing what it is. We're supposed to be doing but stop short of saying we're actually doing it

Well, I mean breaking news. I will say the nuggets on their six game win streak are all the way up to 19th defensively over the last

20 all the way from 21st

No, this is just over their last six games. No, I know. I'm saying that on the year they're 21st right up to 19

Yeah, they progress. I mean, that's that's pretty significant for this team

They had a munder in there. They didn't have a munder

Well, this last game. I think everybody agrees the nuggets finally did play deep. I mean, that's right coming off of a game with some momentum

So yes, I think if you squint you can see quarters and even have sometimes

But you have squint though. You do have to squint you do have to squint

Was that

There's got to be a season. I know

Uh on it season for sure on his back spasms. Well, actually one more thing on here

Is that specifically what about the defense they need to shore up?

And he said some of it is picking up our guys in transition

That helped yeah, and some of it is is communicating guys and he's like and that's it

And I kind of push back on him on this because to me

If you don't pick up a guy in transition that doesn't you solve that you might suck in the half court

Yeah, and so I kind of said like are you sure you know that

Because he's like everything behind that takes care of himself and I kind of challenged it

Like are you sure so does he think they're closer than we might think he did he did think they were closer than then

Then do they know that the defender or is he the offensive player should never be the closest one to the basket

Because sometimes I don't feel like the hard part with like reading off quotes, you know

They're kind of taking these into joke. He's giving thoughtful answer

I don't want to make people think I'm putting words in the game Johnson's mouth

But when he says like communicating and picking up a transition to me

That's like the first line of defense

And if you fail at that one you don't know if you're second third line of defense is working right

Well, those are the two things that like everybody should be doing regardless, you know

Exactly the first two things you do on defense or is that and maybe he went right to it because it's come up a lot in film sessions or practices

I will say to the point in transition

We talk so much about the nuggets and turnovers and how it kills them

Go look up turnover percentages league wide the nuggets are elite at protecting the ball

You know what they're horrible at

Not converting those to stops like when they turn it over

They hemorrhage points. Yeah, some teams turn it over get back on defense and the points off of turnovers are in as big a deal

Denver turns it over and they go well

Just got to get him back on the other end

They are they are hemorrhaging points in transition. I mean that that to me is the stuff where it's like

Okay, I feel like the playoffs. They will actually when they won't just be like

Well, but this was kind of my question was in the playoffs

It's like all right now we're gonna pick guys up and we're gonna communicate

But it's like yeah, but are you sure that works like that'll stop the first punch

But just the second three punch ready to go for the playoffs. We don't know

It's probably play the games at it is why we plan he did say of his back spasms though that they pop out out of nowhere

And they usually go away quickly

He had the one where he was able to return to the game right then it sounds like it's sometimes just a very short

You know go bit of the back you have to do some stretches you have to what do you say compression or compression? Yeah

Impression stuff and then you can go back into the game

So it sounds like they never or at least rarely last more than a day

And often or something he can go to the back and take care of albeit if it happens at halftime

Can you even come back in time with the games on this last one by the time I was ready to come back in the game

Was already put away the guys took care of it

So at least gives us a little insight that if he gets a back spasm thing he could return

That's great to know do you believe you guys get back spasms? I don't I've never got a back spasm

I'm wondering if it's I'm looking at it's like it's it like you're

You compress and really it doesn't hurt

Was it just like it's very painful I think yeah, is it yeah, it's like it's on the face

He makes when he has this is like basically I'm telling you I saw Will Barton get back spasms

During the national anthem after warm-ups and look he went he fell to the ground instantly in pain

It's very painful. There's there's very little like back pain. It's just like it's like when you wake up

But then you're have a calf that's just it's probably similar to that

Yeah, it's worse because your entire body reacts and it's your back. Yeah, yeah

Adam and did say though when he talked about the defense

He says it's been very inconsistent this year

He said there's a lot of different reasons for why he thinks that is

But he thought that the Golden State game especially in the second half and honestly throughout that game

I thought the attention that was given to that side of the balls where it needs to be

And I think our guys understand that if you want to look for a silver lining again

I think these guys aren't gonna proclaim anything which is good. Yeah, but I do think that there's at least a hope of all right

They just did it they had a blowout win the guys all understand that's why it was a blowout

So we'll see now if tomorrow against Utah if it's like all right

We know how to win by 20 points totally you just got to keep stacking some good defensive games

You know they had a good one against Golden State if they have another good one

I think that'd be really encouraging if they don't play defense against Utah

It's gonna be like all right whatever. Yeah, that Golden State game met nothing

Oh, well, and maybe to do lines point the San Antonio one will tell even more

I don't lose to Utah because it is entirely possible

They come out and have just another barn bird, you know real tough game against the jazz

And then Saturday their defense looks great

But I will say I would fill up better about them if they repeat the Golden State game going into the first game exactly

We just want to see it man like we've had a whole season of not seeing it it usually meaning the players

And now it means

The players playing like we know the players can play together

We have the best starting five maybe ever and we just get such a small taste of it over and over

We were just laughing like before the show

We'll probably literally have in the back half the season one game wherever one's together

We might not see it again like we won't see it again. We had one. It's why I've kind of

grown tired of the

Even after that that most recent jazz game out of minutes and something to the effect of like

That's March, you know like Brooklyn's almost beating the Lakers and stuff. I'm like everyone else can play the march

But we need to see we also have the January

It's not necessarily your phone, but it's where you it's where you are

And like December that was tough

And honestly if they were healthy in January you guys they if you go back and look at that schedule

They may be lose one game. I know and that's the buzz saw month would allows you to put some benefit of the doubting to this whole operation

Having not gotten that I would like to see it in March. I know we got sod. Yeah

We did get sod last note I have here and I this is where I love Adam and

He was asked about the value of home court advantage. You usually say game seven's on your own court

This or that he always has a different answer for this then it makes sense

He said I would say the advantage of having the first game at home to me as you stay in your routine

You have a week to prepare for those first two games. You're no you're at home

And maybe up to 10 days at home as opposed to starting that tournament in a hotel room

It actually makes it

Do you like how we call it a turnip? No, I know he says it every time

Clearly a silver plant

A reporter was like doing the the play in tournaments. Yeah, he's like no, no the playoffs

Yeah, you don't have to call it a tournament even though Adam silver told you

He's like this is turning when I have I call it March Madness

I'll bet you this is a vestige of his time at what is it modern day? What was the school?

He was like that's the that's the total like a high school like an old high school

Conference they would call me and I do not tell you I promise Adam silver has been referring to this in

Memo's because it's the in-season tournament the play in tournament and the post season

I think I think March Madness gets that

Yeah, I know

But I do like this idea that it is true man

It is quite the advanced especially our team that's been on the road and they've been home a lot now

And they'll be on home for the next 12 days to then get another 10 days

You're talking about a team that's been on the road for five straight months to get what would effectively be

Straight days at home leading into the first round to me would actually be

Revolutionary for this team

And so I actually think more so than game seven or anything else

That is the real value of having a good court advantage going into the round for Trump. Yeah

Do you remember ripe for the finals when the nuggets had like a week off here? Yeah

Yoke had a couple pool days

We're all just sitting right out waiting for Celtics to finish up

There was like that press conference in Denver where yoke just like walks in in a tank top

I was like man, they're gonna run the heat out of the gym every seat

Well, and then they actually lost game to at home

So I don't know if that's a best example

Yeah, but they came out with a statement in game one and I think that a lot of that might have been because they were at home

And just so comfortable and relaxed to think about it though man

They're gonna have they had practice today

They're probably gonna have practice Friday because they have two days off before the Saturday game

And then you have a week of games and then you get a week off and then if you're at home

They might have more practice in a three and a half week stretch than they've had in the previous four months more days at home

Even in that stress than they think about us

Today, I woke up. I'm like, I'm okay. Come relax a little bit

And I'm like, yeah, I mean you don't go to a restaurant before it's about to close

The practice is too though. I mean this is anecdotal and I'm sure someone will if they if they've been watching it

Measuring it correct me, but they seem to me so much better when they've had a few days to talk about things

For sure defense and talk about physicality

So hopefully that all swells at the right time here. Well

Speaking of reason for optimism and home court advantage

The Minnesota Timberwolves and Houston Rockets both are struggling with some adversity the rockets because they suck the Timberwolves

Nobody has talked about this which we'll talk about on the other side jaded McDaniel's this week to week

That's even worse than day to day how do they fly under the radar for everybody kind of a big deal for your Denver Nuggets

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segment three. We're just discussing food

Uh, jade McDaniels is week to week here with I believe a very similar injury to what

Nikola Yokech suffered bone bruise in fact the official wording for it

I'm trying to look it up right now as we're talking the official wording for it is that

I can't remember what it's called. How come I can't pull it up here? Well Yokes was a bone bruise

Well, that's a chin and then bone yeah, but you know, that's never what they say, but they didn't say yeah, they didn't say any more extension

No, no, no, no, they have there's a there's an actual word for it, but they didn't for Yokech is what I'm saying

Oh, I see they just said they only listed him as bone bruise. Yeah, um, patelli tendinopathy

Okay, patelli tendinopathy at week to week here. Well, first of all, there's only two weeks left in the season less than that

There's 12 days left in the season right so week to week automatically puts you you know

Against it you get a week off after that, but here's the thing man

We know that when you miss time you come back you it's just like your you question especially a knee injury

I'm looking at this one and going first of all they're at this moment a half game ahead of Houston

And they have two teams against games against tanking teams remaining and I think five against games

They could lose including the Houston Rockets

Him just missing those games automatically puts him behind the eight ball

And then you say they're going to go into a first round series potentially against Denver

Even if they have him it's fresh off of injury and without playing for two or three weeks

I look at I don't know why people aren't talking about this. This is akin to Aaron Gordon being out

You know, I look at that and say Minnesota. I'm not counting them out of course

But they are significantly weakened both in the regular season and in the postseason right now

Especially defensively jade mcdans is awesome defensively. Yeah, he's a really good player through

I mean like I still look at him as the

Is where I think p-watt ultimately will land which is that caliber of player which I view is very high

Not like the star star of your team, but like what would you guess he shoots from three

jade mcdans I mean

Against the nuggets 200 percent. I don't know like he shoots 42 percent. That's unreal

I'm just saying like is you saying we see defensively and it is he is a defensive guy

But he's a good offensive player 15 points per game in 42 percent from three and he's an efficient point that sweet spot

Right that guy that can be 50 percent from three 52 percent from the field 42 percent from three like he he's a good offensive player

And he is the type of guy that when you try to play small against him

You know like or we try to match up a small gets him he smothers him because he's so long and then the other direction

He does the thing where he like dribble to the center of the paint and then just jump over

Yeah, he's and like gets to the pain. So to me he's he's a huge part of their team

And I actually look at this and if I were a wolf fan, I'd be like damn man. Oh, there's no way we're doing it

Is that the only reason I say defensively is because

I think about it in terms of the nuggets and like jade mcdans on Jamal Murray. It's like one of his most difficult

You know, but just one of those guys that absolutely can

Smother him and also he like when he and aunt decide that they're going to lock down Jamal Murray

They can do it. Yeah, and he was the primary guy for Michael Porter on these years and really shut Michael Porter down

Like he he was one of the guys that could do that as well. So that's what made it tough

But here's the other thing he missed the first matchup

In the championship season and the nuggets win in five he was back for the next one. They lose in seven

I just look at this and I say that series. He punched a wall member. Oh, that's right right before the play

I totally don't know how bloody was it that he was he was he was he that was at the very start of his career

So he wasn't talking about that punching the wall. Yeah, it was the last game of the year

Right that's exactly it. Yeah

Thing here um

Houston now in Minnesota. I just look at it and say even with his injury even assuming he comes back

He's still going to be hobbled and rusty and whatever

Then there has to beat those two teams

Like there's just no like I was a tough year this shut

No, man. Those two teams are hobbled and I look at it and say Denver should be

Comfortable favorites now in my opinion against Minnesota. I think so too. I honestly

Was feeling a lot better about the wolves matchup before this news. I know it's not

I think there's still a little bit of residual I guess PTSD from the way it went for a year and a half there

Against one three and one against them this year. I know regular season isn't

You know confirmation of how posted and series will go

And that fourth game without Aaron Gordon like I got some texts from wolves reporters like

Why are you guys freaking out? We're sitting here thinking we should have won that game by more, you know

So I just think this matchup has changed

I would have said Denver in six probably

If it's no McDaniel's I think you have a chance at five and that really really really matters

If you get out of this first round in five games

I think you can do against Houston and maybe against the hobbled wolves

I think your chances jump off your chances jump up. Yeah, I actually I to me this is big news

And I'm kind of surprised it's just gone under the right. I mean, there's so many things to talk about right now

Listen, we're gonna talk about what about expansion

tanking

MBPM truly we're in MBPCs and to be honest one more news and notes though before we get to the MBT and that is that ESPN

ESPN this isn't like

Michael Scoto or you know, so some

ESPN says that on

LeBron James is preferred destinations for next season Denver's on the list now

This is kind of the classic we're about to go into the playoffs. Let's make the lead story LeBron

This is the rich Paul move for LeBron, but I swear to god

I know we've done this a lot so I mean what what is this story exactly six free agency options by Dave McManaman

Okay, six free agency options and they believe in

their shares

Dave McManaman thinks LeBron James would go all the way to Denver

Hmm, that's interesting

All the way to Denver. I'm telling you I don't think it's crazy and here's the weird thing about LeBron

Because we're gonna do this again. I'm sure in the offseason. It'll become pop up again

But I know but I'm just gonna do it right now. Here's my point on LeBron

You guys know I've been a hater for him. I believe he's my favorite player for many years

I've been a hater since he's been an LA. I am so impressed with him this year

And I've been saying this

He has become a elite role player this year. It's so weird. I never thought he would

I just thought he would always need to be the main guide. It would be hard for him to do this

The way he has kind of turned into Aaron Gordon. Yeah, it has been really impressive

And at least now I'm just watching it going. Oh, yeah

No, it's interesting the role he's taken. I mean this article is a massive nothing burger

I mean, I think that's pretty clear

Everybody knows he's going back to Cleveland and people are kind of just

Putting it out there a little bit, but everybody's scared to come out and say it

He's obviously going back to the cabs next year or Miami. It's the no, it's Cleveland

It's the only I don't think we'll take him back

It's the only place he can go. It is the cabs a hundred percent. You'll see

This this article he's not coming back coming to Denver. That's what if the cabs what if the cabs win the East this year

He's going there just what's going to happen

I don't know man. I do think that's most likely that is how it plays out

But at least are you is it we this story is always annoyed us in part because I think we are felt like it was there

Plus the LeBron experience would be terrible, but old LeBron said segwaying into elite role player. No

I'm out

Being like you know well the injuries are too much. Let's get off the Aaron Gordon train

Let's get 43-year-old LeBron Jones

This way you do like they can play my if you're like in the

What is the soccer league that we have the MSO with the MLS

And you just bring over you just bring over Messy or one of these guys that used to be something

But before that it was Beckham before that it was like these guys that are like oh, yeah, I'm still good like let's do it

I'm going to go out of record and just say put a pen in this put a pen in this good. I think it would work

I mean, I want to go on record and say there's a 0% chance of this happening. I can't believe me

I'm surprised wind of all the record on record doing this one. It's just so obviously a nothing burger man

This article it's the LeBron. I'm telling you it's every year the LeBron has the problem is that we just keep

Doing this over now anytime. There's some LeBron thing. It's like uh time to start seeing and like now

It's like we don't care anymore, man. We're so beaty the NBA has beat us down. We don't care about anything

We certainly don't care about the MVP and I'll tell you why we don't care about it

Because when I log into the apps today, I like bet 365 and I look at the odds for MVP

Shea Gilges Alexander minus 300

He's the favorite minus 300 feels like a lock

Victor women Yama's plus 225. He's second look at Dodgers third plus 1500

Nicoliokitch is down there for that plus

6000 which is basically a way of saying not even a chance. He would win MVP now

Here's what's crazy about this to me. I don't think yokes the MVP this year

And I whatever

But man plus 6000 behind look at don't I know don't be mad at the top three is who else is that plus 6000 like nobody

He is company. No way. He's Jalen Bray. He's hanging out with Jalen Brown. Okay, but Jalen Brown's at 25,000

So it's like there is a huge drop off after four

Who's after Yokech?

Jalen Brown. That's what I'm saying is 6,000 to 25,000. Yeah, so it really drops after that

But it kind of really drops after three. It's really a three man race according to the to the apps. Yeah

I hate this part of the NBA so much. I can't stand this part of the NBA

I mean some part of me makes me some part of it makes me happy that we're like not embroiled in this anymore

But it's also an outrage like an absolute outrage that

Nicoliokitch is going to average a triple double as a center his best statistical season ever

Two years in a row and he's getting further away from being MVP because obviously the nuggets have not had a good great year

And you can just discount them by just being like I don't play defense and that's kind of the end of it

The MVP I've just learned this the MVP voters like scoring and they like novelty

I think I think there's something they also like teams winning games

Which I think fair I by the part I think is fair and it's part of what hurts Yokech this season even in the Luca conversation

Since unfortunately then the Lakers of or whatever right even though it's only going to be end up by one game

When it all shakes out. I think

But you know what this reminds me of though because this is what it is

I'm with most people in the chat with you like we don't care

But this is like that scene in jingo you remember seen in jingo after they've kind of been outed and then

Leo's character is like hold on a deal's not a deal. That's what this is

It's like it we're like all right, whatever he's not MVP this year. Now. It's like no. He's fourth. Yeah, it's like hold on hold on

Yeah, no, I actually agree with that. I do that is fourth

No, no like that if you go Yoke doesn't win this year. I'm like look between all the games

And just how voter fatigue works like I like I'm not gonna lose sleep over this one

I am a little annoyed that he's out of the top three. I think that's egregious

He is it's like if you don't stand him obnoxiously and annoyingly then that off this like I know

I know that's why we that's why we went so hard all those years

I completely agree as the chat points out. It's pretty crazy to be number one in assist and rebounds in the NBA

There's a million of these uh, there's a million of these

Well, that's a pretty basic one and like nobody's ever done that before and then he's a prolific scorer on top of it

I personally feel like watching Yoke it's this year between missing some of the games and just the weird

Call it two weeks when he came back. Yeah, what I say it's his best season despite his numbers. I don't think so

But it's really really really good and it is I think a little bit of the

Lebron like a peak Lebron you just sort of go

Like if if anyone else has Lebron's numbers for a month you start talking about how well they're playing

You know and I always if who I Leonard for a month put up the numbers that Yoke it just put well

Hold on a second because he just won player the week and I want to talk about those numbers

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Yeah, I could see the fight

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Well, he put up 26 points 17 rebounds and 14 assists and sound that value for me. No, that was his average over a four game span

26 17 and 14 yeah, and I think we talked about it on the post game show the other night how he's playing at half speed

He's in second. He's still waiting to flip the switch

56% from the field 44% from deep so for now

Here's the truth of the MVP thing that I've learned over time one the NBA straw pole really has ruined it as has the internet and everything else because we really do exist

You know, I always talk about my god

I didn't come from journalism

But I got into it through this and it was funny because one of the first things I experienced was the table

You know the table at Paul arena you sit around and you talk and you back in the day was all football

But it was amazing how all the media would sit there and talk until they all came to the center

You know like what's our opinion? You know, and it was like boom. We all worked it out

I would just watch this and I'd be like what?

What's this happened?

Everybody just talked until everyone could agree usually with the loudest or most forceful voice in the room

Right. This is the MVP the MVP honestly. It's just about nobody wants to look dumb

Yeah, nobody wants to be on the outside and right now there's momentum and here's how it works

I think this is the truth of Yoke just season

I think the first month of the season you could have made the case it was as good as he's ever been yes agreed

He was unbelievable just felt effortless everything else a lot of adversity hit the roster

And then he gets hurt he goes out and when he comes back

So the first time we'd ever seen him kind of playing injured and I don't think he played well on top of that

I think Yoke it flopped more this season than he ever has. Yeah

I think he jawed with officials more than he has since probably 2019 or 2020

And those things bother me and the team has struggled and I think some of it comes from that

lately

He's been playing great again and his numbers are as we pointed out historically great

That's the story is that MVP worthy in my opinion? No because I think Shay and you can make a case for Wimbee

They they have a better case here

That's what we've put in the like we're around the table

That's what we've put out

What everybody has heard has been like oh he sucks this year

Count what oh he just hands the ball off. He doesn't do anything. That's he's terrible

He's got a bad attitude

Bopped all her play like this is what everybody here's you like hold on

No, we said he has average in 28 13 and 11 leading the league and rebrandes the cities and greatest offensive all time

And all these different things that part hasn't got and then this Luca thing

I'm telling you Luca

Had what the worst of what we had with Yokech this year Luca had it but for longer your only difference is recently

I was at the start of the year recently

He's been very good and the Lakers media just loves to play the self it everybody loves righteous indignation

They're playing the card right now. I saw I saw that the the Laker they they you know the Lakers might be talked about more favorably

You guys if so much of the media wasn't from the east bro

We talked about this on the show the other day at all time

This is like Anthony Erwin. I'll call him out my guy Anthony Erwin. It was just like this

This is why if you just notice if you guys ever notice everyone hates the Lakers in media

Yeah, you got to be kidding me, man

It was a good reminder to myself before I put anything we're out there to ask myself

If I've lost my mind or not. You know what I mean?

Just double check with myself

Anyway, that's what this is and that's why this this vote and this thing here

I'm just like why is Yoke forth and it's like oh, that's right

It's a big table and the loud voices have convinced everyone did not be outside the box here

We got a vote for this is the order that has to go ahead. It's insane to me

The only thing that'll make it feel better is if Yoke is just murders all these dudes in the playoffs. Yep

That's what he's got to do. I was about to say I feel like we need to we're now in an era

where we need to have

Four or five guys that are officially in the running and the one that gets the furthest in the playoffs wins it

Oh, that's kind of interesting. We don't call it MVP. It's just like the furthest of the good players the champion

What no the MVP but like they it's just I just

This you never realize these these these these are the first-est world of problems where

You don't realize what it's like to have a top player in the NBA

That is so different and dominant from anybody else that else that's really come before him

And what it's like to just be on this side of just hearing this nonsense about this guy just like the political

Propaganda side of the NBA that is just a non-stop machine all the time and

It does get exhausting where you're like I don't really want to fight for this anymore. I he's got three

But it is to wins point over and over like

The MVP is important it really does establish what people's legacies are and all of these conversations always boil down to

Three or four things you just rattle off the flip side of all of this and we've outlined this before

setting the stage

You do this you run through the gauntlet you knock a couple of these guys off

Let's let you tell there's a lakeers or something so easy and you in a title right which seems ambitious to think of in a dream of now

But just put it on the table you come back. You are winning next to his MVP

Yeah, they don't you know it'll that would be the apology

Are you kidding me if they this is what if they win the championship this year

I think yoke has three more potential in the piece and I'm like the tail on it is so long

He could then follow that up with the worst November December of his life and you couldn't touch him

You wouldn't be able to touch him. Yeah, this is exactly how it works. It's annoying

But the truth is there's nothing to win other than please go through all of these

I know that's that's the way

Because there's a lot of these holes there is a world in which you could go through Luka and then

Wembee and then Shay and I'll be like well, I guess we solved that one, you know

I don't think it'll be that way

My favorite kind of old guy in bass horizon when they talk about like well

There's the NBA race or the scoring race and then they met in the playoffs in this guy

I just don't they found each other I'd I in the tournament the tournament the big tournament

March van is he's like you know

It's just so funny how yoke

His had just these like little minor minor things that have annoyed me personally. I mean on the show

It's not that I don't need to and if you you share that it's like oh, you know, it's a dude

Mollhill wall you especially mouth because you're the yeah, you're the like the

Mouthpiece of yoghurt so if you had it between you if you show weakness, it's over for him

It's so funny because it sounds dumb, but it's the truth it is the truth like my job isn't to show strict or weaknesses to give opinions

But if the opinion does show a crack it's like well, yeah, I don't like even even Morris

This guy's a joke. It's because we got the other side over here being like how come everyone hates my guy when he's been perfect

Do you think he should say he's the MVP? That seems to be what people are doing lately. Just rename it the all yoke itch

Kind of Tim Legler. Yeah, I guess I have to pivot pretend. I never levied any criticisms. I just start talking about

We can't this is when yeah, when people yell at us for being too negative. They're right. We can't we can't

Give any criticism of yoke itch because everyone will take it and run so from that point forward

He's perfect. He's never done anything wrong. You guys are idiot. He's actually never yelled at a rap

Especially when he's not

Yeah, he's perfect in every way all the time he's Jesus if you go against him then you're Judas that's it

Chats is a good point and actually Adam's I mean in a weird way kind of is

This is the future of media by the way everyone is just like you know, we just all go hard with

Propagate. It's just pure propaganda. What do you mean that's the future?

Let's go to our super chat. Shall we before we go there real quick? Friday add a win

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For not that expensive of an actual ticket. So you definitely want to lay down a base before yes, I'm opening day

Then the drinking really starts and he's like you could like bar hop around downtown and wait in lines and like dude battle people

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History channel 50 280 recent straw poll shows that dmvr has a strong lead in the most valuable podcast. Oh yeah

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Pods are saying big I love these straw polls about the podcast

The straw poll is coming out is coming out. Yeah, okay

Idris yadris iad rz covering on my bases. What are the odds? The nuggets have secured home court plan on flying out for game 1 and 2

But don't want to book flights. They're on

They don't book flights. They got a charter. They go. No, he said he does. Oh, I see he's worried about

I said you're a question. He's worried about their travel. I'm afraid to say this too confidently, but I'm pretty sure

I think they're getting that foreseed. I mean that's

They're probably likely to get the foreseed right now not locked in by any. Let's just wait till after tomorrow's game because god

This is what you know. This is what you look at says these like guys. It's every day. It's different again. So why bottom?

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