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Today, we're going to talk about this receiver class in the middle rounds, which is where

I think the Packers are going to attack it.

We're of course going to talk about this cornerback class, this defensive tackle class,

but the player that he thinks would be a perfect fit for the Packers doesn't play any of

those positions.

It's not really not fully, okay, why don't I just, we'll get to Damien and we'll let

him explain.

Joining me now from the Lockdown NFL draft show our pal Damien Parsons and Damien, this

is, I know it's your favorite time of year.

This is one of my favorite times of year because this is a draft where it is not a one-size-fits-all

draft.

It is not a one-brain thinks-all draft because you're 20th player for you could be a 60th

player for someone else and you might see them the same way.

Let's dig into this for the Packers at 52.

It's hard, I think, for fans to go, I want this guy because at 20, at 25, you kind of know

who's going to be there and you have, there's a shorter list of guys who can go off the

board.

This is just math.

Before I think to identify that one or two guys, but if you could just, hey, I think this

would be a great fit.

I think he fits what they need.

Who is that player at 52 for the Packers?

So for me, it's kind of be two, it's two players.

Number one, it would be Calderick Fawke, the defensive lineman, I don't know if I'm

wrong.

It was six, five, six, six, two, 60, 70, believe you can get them up to 285 and I think he's

the best suited and he can carry it well to 20 years, 20 years old, young, young players.

Of course, because the upside is still there for these young men, right?

And I think he can continue to, he hasn't hit that grown man body yet.

So I feel like he has still a lot more from a frame standpoint he can grow into, but

love him in the run game.

This is a guy that was kind of pegged and labeled as like a top 10 pick as an edge coming

off of summer scouting.

I was never there because I was like, okay, as a true edge, lacks the bend, his hip stiffness.

He didn't have like a true pass for us repertoire to beat tackles.

I think against guards, he can absolutely feast, but then also he's going to be able to

set just leverage and out leverage interior offensive lineman.

He's going to have the reach advantage, then with a tail of the tape with boxing and UCF

reach matters.

Right?

We always talk about it with tackles reach matters.

So having that reach and that frame and the packers are a team that always likes their

guys to be, to look like football players, right?

That's a good way of putting it.

It's always been known for that.

Like, that's one, you know, if I ever do a mock drive, there's certain packer guys on

Twitter that I'm like, hey, he doesn't fit the requirements, he doesn't match up height

wise.

All right.

That's me.

No, it's just a couple of people in the packers nation that I've learned from over

the years.

I'm like, okay.

Corn just like last year, at least for probably every time we did mock drives, we got down.

It was like a smaller corner, like, nope, he's not going to be there for the packers.

We're not taking this guy.

You know what I mean?

I was like, it's not going to happen.

He's too small.

So I've learned that with the packers.

So they like their guys to be what we call body beautiful.

They look like football players, they're strong, they're physical, and then they have the upside.

I think Keljah Falk brings that on front.

I want them as a defensive in being able to play that kind of four eye five tech, going

them passing down, reduce them in to that three tech and let him just create pressure right

in the face of the quarterback and with his height and his arm length, time of getting

his hands up and really clouding the window for the quarterback, trying to their visual

window.

I mean, listen to Brock Purdy last off season, say he can't really see down the field.

So he's throwing the spots, which is, you know, funny when you hear NFL quarterback

say, you know, I can't see, I'm throwing to a spot and trusting that my receiver will

be there.

So what you do when you got a Keljah Falk, I can blur those lines a little bit for you

where you don't feel so comfortable getting the ball out there like that.

And one of my favorite, this is a loaded linebacker class.

My favorite linebackers is from Cincinnati, Jake Golday, 64 and a half, 240, almost 32

inch arms.

He's athletic.

He rushes off the edge.

He plays overhang.

He plays stackbacker.

He blitzes.

He's physical, run defense.

He does a little bit of everything.

And I think that he's just a big ball of clay at that linebacker spot.

And I feel like he could step in and fill that quay walker roll.

And he gives you, you see the instincts with him, but also just the size and the frame

and the athleticism.

I think this is a guy that I wouldn't be shocked to hear his name come off the board late

first round.

And everything.

I think Tampa, I think Levantay, David just retired.

So I could see Tampa, you know, the top two linebackers are going to clearly be off the

board.

Before they pick at 15, could they make a linebacker selection 100%.

So I think at 52, if Keldrick Falk or Jake Golday is there, yeah, Pete, I'm running the

card up.

I feel like both of those guys would be really good fits for your defense.

Yeah.

And one of the things that we've talked about on the show is Brian Gidekins has not taken

a player in the top 50 without a full athletic profile.

Jake Golday, a 9.84, a relative athletic score ran for six at the combine, a seven second

three cone and jumped 10.5, jumped 39 inches.

So elite explosive ability checks the athletic boxes.

I think that's a good shout there.

And we'll see, right?

Like they make the trade for Zaire Franklin.

But is that a long term option?

Probably not.

Right.

Right.

Right.

Already, you know, in his 30s.

And so if that, if they can find a long term fit there, I certainly think they would do

that.

Interesting.

They mean that you did not mention a defense attack or a corner.

And that is where the Packer fans are going, it's got to be every Packer fan thinks it's

got to be a defensive tackle or got to be a corner.

So the fact that you didn't pick one of those two positions is that this draft class

is that what you think about the Packers roster, like what made you go those specific positions

because again, like I think if you ask Packer fans, they go, Hey, 52 is got to be a DT.

It's got to be a corner.

One of those guys.

Well, yes, well, because, you know, we'll tell you a thing you can both come up and

kind of let him go.

I think that's a good shout too, because we know they're going to move to that sort of

odd front, especially for a rookie, like let him play 30% of snaps as a five tech and

then be an interior pass fresher and sub package.

I think he sort of fits that mold is what you're saying.

So, yeah, no, sure.

Let's talk about this defensive tackle class, because I think it's an interesting class.

I think you, like your top defensive tackle could be, you know, could be Keith's fifth

defensive tackle.

And you might both be right.

Right?

Like you might see them the same kind of way.

Yeah.

Is there, like what do you think of this day two defensive tackle class?

Is there a couple guys that you really like in that sort of middle second or third round

range?

Yeah.

Christian Miller, out of Georgia, 63, 320, I like his tape a lot.

And in Georgia is one of those teams where I always say it's so much upside with their

players, because they don't ever really fully develop in my opinion from a technical standpoint.

The most technical guy that come off their Georgia defensive line was Jalen Carter.

We saw the impact immediately once he got to Philadelphia, while other guys, it takes

some time.

I think with Christian Miller, this guy could play the zero, the one, the two, and if you

want to mess one of those run-stopping three techs, he can do that as well.

He's powerful.

And let him rush off the edge, Damien.

Yes.

They let him do a lot of different things.

And I was actually surprised when I saw that, but I was happy to see because they utilized

them in different ways.

I think he's one of the more underrated defensive tackles in his class and everything.

And I know that he didn't work on the combine.

So I think some people kind of just kind of out of sight out of mind, but you turned

on that Georgia defensive tape.

It wasn't, it's not the Georgia of, it's not our mom and dad's Georgia team.

It's not, you know, that they're all the brothers Georgia team at all, right?

So defensively, you look at the corners, you're like, ah, you guys don't have, you know,

the guys we're accustomed to and things like that.

But Christian Miller to me is one of their better players on the roster overall.

And I think the NFL team is going to be able to draft them on day two and feel very happy

about what he's going to bring, just to attitude and aggressiveness, um, to the, to the

defensive line, especially versus the running with the Packers dealing with, um, you know

that Chicago's going to run the ball.

You know, Detroit's going to run the ball.

Minnesota is going to run the ball as well, especially now you got to deal with Calamari

and his ability to run and everything now is the, is the QB.

You need somebody that is to, to stop the run and collapse the puck.

I think you can get him round to the round three for sure.

Um, other deep fit the tackles.

I love big citrus dominating orange out of Iowa state six, two, three, twenty two, a true

like nose tackle, run defender, gives a little first step, quickness up feel.

But the guy is absolutely going to be difficult for offensive linemen to just block one

one guy that you're going to, that allow your linebackers to just float, right?

He's one of those kind of throwback then that's really what this defensive class

truthfully is, um, it's a lot more run stuffing nose tackles, defensive tackles

that are kind of built for the 2000s.

You know, you, you're facing Jamal Lewis, who's running for 2000 yards of season.

Yeah, these guys fit that mold a lot more.

And I think that's why they, they don't have the cachet and the hype as, um, most

drag classes will have because they don't have as much of the past rush upside.

But yeah, dominating orange big citrus.

First of all, elite name nickname and big citrus.

But, um, his game is really good too.

I think day two, probably third round.

He comes off the board, Darryl Jackson, junior out of Florida state six, five, three,

15 long arms, powerful dude.

But then he's also a plus level athlete at that size as well.

They can get up field and disrupt some things, talking about shooting gaps and getting

into the backfield, creating TFLs, get just making quarterbacks uncomfortable from the,

from the interior.

That's the quickest way to the quarterback straight forward north and south.

So I think those guys, he's got that tyrant Smith.

Like if you didn't know, he was a defensive tackle.

You think you would think he was like a power forward in the NBA.

He is like carved from granite.

Absolutely.

He, he's well built.

And you know, Florida state just hasn't like been the team that people wanted to be

ever since that Jordan Travis year when they went undefeated and Travis got hurt and

everything, but they still have good prospects.

And he was one of their brother guys this year and it just underrated defensive title.

I'm surprised people don't talk about him enough, especially as a day two prospect.

He does a little bit of everything.

He could play the run.

He could play the past.

I want him with my team without a doubt.

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So you're saying this drop glasses is it's got more Tony Sarah Goose's

and fewer warrants apps like that's correct.

Yes, no, the guy's going to rush the passer.

You're looking at more Peter Woods who will not won't match the arm length requirements

for some teams and yes, more of the more of those nose tackles.

Like, hey, we want to play too high.

Great. We need somebody that can clog the middle.

And that's that's the packers.

I mean, I look at you mentioned Kristen Miller, you know, if Kate McDonald

for whatever reason was there at 52, like, I would run the card in for him.

I think he's he is just like, I think he is the preeminent run stuffer in this draft.

Um, I've, I frankly, I think it's well for 100%.

He and, and like, with the eye black all over his face, like, that's, that's

a scary dude in the middle of the field.

Like, you don't want, you don't want to run at him.

Um, let's talk about corner because, um, I, I laid this out the other day.

And we talked about this to start the size is going to matter in Green Bay.

Like all these 182 pound guys, it's just not, it's not for Green Bay.

And there's even a couple guys, even at the top of the board, the Jermama

Coids and, and, um, maybe on Tarels and, and even Minnesota Lane.

They're tall, but they're skinny.

And that's just like, that's generally not for Green Bay.

They want guys that have density at receiver at corner.

And so then you start looking at guys like Devon Moore from Florida,

Dailant Everett from Georgia, Julian Neal from, from Arkansas, who I like a lot.

Um, those guys are more like late second, early third, maybe even early day

three kinds of guys.

Is there, is there one from that group that I just mentioned that,

that particularly stands out to you like, oh, yeah, that's my guy.

Yeah.

I mean, so I, I really do like Devon Moore.

He's battle injury.

So I think that's going to knock his talk down and everything, but six, three,

in a quarter, 200 pounds.

Um, this is a guy that, to me, watching his film and I did a, I did a breakdown

of actual Skyrim Report episode, I believe was last week on him.

I, I want to, he could play his own very well, but it's not a problem.

I like him more impressed, man, when he can dictate the action, he could be physical.

You turn the table against Tennessee.

When he was allowed to get into the chest and the airspace of Chris Brasel,

the explosive six, four wide receiver from Tennessee, he gave him all types of issue.

Now when he played more off and you allow Chris Brasel to then manipulate and run

route, sat on him and angle him, he was able to, to, to have some success against

Devon Moore, but I think probably, probably full frown, just because of the injury

concern, but he ran like, I think a four, five, he jumped well.

He looks to part all the way, a LTP or for me, uh, I got it looks to part.

I like Davis and Eggman News and just, uh, he reminds me of Marcus Peters,

like just a physical dude, little grabbies, are you going to might have to deal

with some of that with him, but he can make plays in the ball.

You turn, you turn the tape when they played Indiana in the big 10 championship

game. Yep.

I think Elijah Serrat caught an outright on them and then that was it for the rest of

the game. Like he was not giving Elijah Serrat in.

Elijah Serrat had cooked a lot of DBs, majority of that season, right?

Same day on average, six, one in the quarter, almost 200 pounds.

That's another guy on day two, um, that I think could be in the, in the range

for, um, for the packers, but my guy, a guy I like a lot is a fission's price

stock on a wash, um, six, three, three, eights, one, ninety six on what turn,

I turn on the tape and I wash them against Ohio State.

And again, it's just a lot of times it's the scheme that these, these teams run.

When they, when they had them playing off, Cardinal Tate had success against it.

When he got up on the line of scrimmage and press Cardinal Tate, you saw

that the issues with Cardinal Tate, the lack of play strength to really get off

press coverage. The fact that he only faced 16% of his snaps.

Like you saw a fission's be able to make him extremely uncomfortable,

know how to play to the strength of the coverage, squeeze him to the sideline,

turn a look for the ball, make those, a guy that's a technician, like a,

like a Cardinal Tate, now it's a contested situation and you don't have the

advantage because this is a bigger, more physical player with, you know,

that matches you with from an arm length standpoint.

I think a fission price stock out of Washington, because it was him and to

cardio Davis, you know, trying to, trying to like go against two, six,

three corners. Yeah, it's just, it's difficult, right?

And it made a basketball team in that secondary legitimately.

It's like, it's very similar to those, like, see, like they built their,

their cornerback room, like the Seahawks used to, you know what I mean?

When they're leading the boom, like, hey, Byron Marshall is, um,

I think he was like six, two, you got Brandon Browner, six, three,

six, four, Richard Sherman, six, three, six, four, they just had guys,

they can rotate in it, all fit the mold.

And I think a fission price stock, Devin Moore, those kind of six,

three corners, I think those guys will fit very well with the packers.

Where, where are you on Julian Neal?

Because he's someone that I think in this process is underrated.

Um, I, I, I think if we're talking about guys who are going to play zone

coverage, there are a couple reps.

We did a, I've been doing a series called Goody's guys on, on Packer type

players. And he is someone who, there are a couple of reps where the

click and close in zone from off coverage, where he, for a bigger guy,

especially you see the explosiveness and he can click and close for a guy

his size, unlike very many players that we have.

And for a team that is going to, to play, I think a lot of zone coverage

with Jonathan Ganon and Bobby Babbage.

Like, he makes a lot of sense to me.

What do you see there?

No, definitely.

You see the click and click the athleticism that I think he showed

throughout his testing and just, it all matches the tape.

That ability to drive from a flat footed stance, the ability to back pedal

or side saddle, open up the gate and side saddle out of there, read the,

the route combinations and that route recognition, understanding what's

threatening my zone, what's not threatening my zone.

Okay, you're running a dig route and passing that off to my low,

whole safety or to my linebackers.

I'm staying over the top of a running cover three and then being able to

read it and then trigger this match man and he has to switch into man coverage.

He can, he can trigger down hill with the quickness and he has such a great

frame. Like he looks to me, looks like a safety at times, play corner

because he's 200 plus and he's sturdy.

He's dense.

He's muscular, let him play corner 100% and then you see the speed that he can

run with guys and Arkansas's defense was a Bismill overall in 2025.

You know, they were not good, but he was one of the bright spots for that

defense where you, you're looking, you see that diamond in the roughly,

man, this is rough out here and you see him in coverage and you're like,

oh, all right, I see some things here.

I like this kid.

I, if you watch more of them, they're like, okay, I'll absolutely draft you to

my team because I think he gives you that scheme versatility, but especially

if you're playing primary zone, he's a good fit.

There are three names at receiver that I want every packer fan to have an

ion in the middle of the middle of this draft, whether it's, I think probably

round three, round four for, for these guys.

And it's three, well, two smaller school guys and then an SEC guy.

But Ted Hurst from Georgia State, you want size speed.

He's it, Bryce Lance from North Dakota State, Christian Watson School,

Trail Lance's brother, you want size speed, he's got it.

And then Dijon's tripling from Ole Miss, you want size speed.

I mean, the, the move, Damien, I like, I bet you'll remember this play.

He has a play against Dale and Everett from Georgia.

He catches a little hitch route and he accelerates out of that catch.

Like, I don't know.

I've ever seen someone accelerate out of having back to the ball and he's gone

on like a 70 yard play and Dale and Everett ran for three eight.

Like, I was just like, holy cow, that explosiveness.

All three of those guys are really explosive receivers is, is there

one that you like better than the others?

I would say they're projected to go pretty similar ranges right now.

Like, like late day three or late day two, early day three.

I love Ted Hurst.

I love Ted Hurst, like the, the snappiness of his routes,

the speed with four, four speed, he can, you know, leaping.

I not tweeted out when I watched him initially, I was like, he's a George

Pickens variant.

That was like, when the ball's in the air, the body control,

the hand out coordination, absolutely.

Love the, the, the late hands, like he doesn't give you any indicators

at the balls on the way.

He just goes up and snatches it at the highest point.

But then watching them run routes, I was like, this dude has more route

quickness and snappiness and crispness to his routes, especially

Toma running quick hitches, the curls, the deep comebacks, he can sink and drive.

And it's no wasted movement and motion with it at all, especially for a

taller white receiver.

You usually see like crazy enough is, is much of a technician card.

Now, Ted is, you tell him to run a 12 yard comeback.

Some of those comebacks have six or seven steps at the top where he's trying

to turn and just like, okay, like you know that he's a little long,

he's a little long leg.

When I watch Hurst, I didn't see that with him.

I saw him snap drive out of there and come back down to stem.

And I'm like, that's a guy with strong hands as well.

I think he gives you yards after the catchability also.

Yeah, I think don't get me wrong.

I get like, take Tyson, McIath, those are the big three.

Those are the guys that everybody views as the first round picks him right.

So they are very talented.

I think a guy like like Ted Hurst, a team gets him round two, round three.

You're probably going to feel like, you know, you could have tape top 10.

I'll take Ted Hurst top 60.

Plenty more here with Damien Parson dating into the receiver class.

Maybe a quarterback or two on day three will get to that next.

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Yeah, Steve Munch on Todd McShay show said he thinks that one of his like don't be surprised.

If they do this, this game called don't be surprised if he said don't be surprised.

If a lot of GM's regret passing on Ted Hurst, he that like that was one of his guys.

And it he may, you know, be hurt by the fact that he went to Georgia state,

like he's not from a major school.

And I, you know, Lance is in there too, North Dakota state.

And I think people know the quality of program that North Dakota state is at this point.

We see the success that they've had Christian Watson.

Obviously last year when he came back and just immediately is, is that guy again?

But, you know, that could benefit the Packers sitting there at 52 and 84 going,

okay, you guys want to take all these offensive linemen and pass rushers from these big schools.

We'll just wait and grab one of these guys and look how good they're going to be.

100% and I really like Bryce Lance as well.

Like, you know, for anybody who hasn't seen them, what he tested at the combine shows up on film.

This dude can absolutely accelerate with the best of them.

He's got the long stride where he's going to eat up grass and, you know,

I always say, what's the Christian Watson on tape?

He does.

And that's the craziest part about.

I'm like, I, I, I remember watching them and I wrote down a watch and I was like,

wait, watch them into the exact same school.

I'm like, you know, I'm like, well, at least this, at least this is authentically not

helmet scouting because I forgot.

So I was like, just watch them.

I was like, man, you see that the ball tracking is there, the speed to take the top off.

There's rock running ability there.

And that connects you between him and Cole Peyton like this dude.

If you don't get hands on him, he's, he's going to glide right by you.

And that's what that's why I really like about Bryce Lance and I'm excited to see where he goes.

And it will be, it will be a lot of fun actually to see Jordan left throwing the,

the goal ball off of play action to either Christian Watson or,

or Bryce Landley, you factor in having Matthew Golden, who's sub four, four in that mix.

And it's like, man, the Packers had them stuff a little bit of a track team at the receiver spot,

which would give defense is a lot of headaches.

And then throw in Tucker craftwork in the middle of the field like, you know, good,

good luck to the opposing passing defense.

All right, a little bit off the board here, Damien.

My guy Jason Hirschhorn, my, my co-founder at the leap.

I knew that our I would love for you to subscribe to.

He always, every year, the Packers, they don't just have types of corner and

receiver and defensive end, they have models that they use a quarterback too,

which should not be a surprise since Ron Wolf got there in 1992.

They are the best quarterback drafting team in the NFL.

And it is not freaking close.

They, they, they have types.

And so day three, if you're looking at someone who's got experience,

they've got some good athleticism.

I mentioned like the experience and yet the combination of experience and athleticism

is really the, the defining trait for them.

Is there someone on day three where you go, okay, in round five,

someone that can be a developmental future backup round six, even round four.

Is there, is there someone that you go, yeah, I can see that, I can see that

making sense for the Packers.

Oh, of course, um, to me, Kate Clibding on the Clemson six, two, almost two,

ten good arm talent.

He's a state champion in the four, I think four by four, um,

when he was in high school in that's in Texas.

So over time, two, yes, like it is just a fact of, you know,

Clemson has been had some down, I feel like a down decade at this point, um,

and everything, you know, they just haven't like, they haven't risen to the

occasion, but you see the flashes with Kate, the ability to anticipate out

breaking routes, literally to drive the ball.

When he gets to open field, that straight line track speed is absolutely

there for him as well, um, really like what he brings to the table.

And like you said, the Packers, and me and Keith talked about this on one of

the episodes that drop in later this week, what we did, um, perfect pairings

for, for the quarterbacks and everything, um, that drops Thursday, actually.

And, you know, the Green Bay Packers were one of the landing spots for one of

the quarterbacks, because like you said, Green Bay has been so good at developing

guys, you look, look at the last two years for Malik Willis, right?

Everybody that comes in there, different quarterback, everyone that comes in

there becomes technically sound and refined.

And to me, that's just such a nod to the coaching staff, to the details

where in the NFL is not a developmental process and progress anymore.

That's not the case.

And for the, to watch the Packers do that time and time and time again, for

this to be a copycat league, I don't know why that part hasn't, you know,

transpired or translated to other teams.

But yeah, I think Cade is there.

Cole Peyton, out of North Dakota state, will be another one.

He's at least more of a left.

He's going to be different catching passes from Jordan, loving him, but six,

three, two, thirty, four, five athletes.

I think he jumped 40 inches in the front.

My comp for him is, is, is a more, is Jalen Hertz.

But I think he has more upside as a passer in the middle of the field, where

he's not like, that was the issue with Jalen coming out.

He didn't throw between the numbers a lot.

He was more of a vertical shot guy where Cole throws between

the numbers, you know, I mean, he throw his arm talent, the accuracy,

and again, the North Dakota state offense, where you're, you're going to get

under center stuff, traditional play action.

And use the measure on everything, use them as a runner.

So I think he'll be a perfect guy to kind of step into that Malik Willis,

Malik Willis shoes to just sit behind Jordan Love, learn from LaFlaur

and that coach and staff.

And another guy that you probably have an asset, that's a tradable asset in two

years, you know, I mean, especially if, if love, you know, you're talking about

preseason. Hey, I'm not playing love.

Love your good. You know, this offense, let him take all the snaps.

If you can, let him showcase himself.

You get yourself a third round grave, a third round pick from somebody

that wants that, that looks at him.

So you know what?

Cause the pages used to do that.

Bill will always draft quarterbacks, second and third round.

Even when Tom Brady was there, they drafted Jimmy top of the second round.

But I remember correctly.

So like, that's, that's the way it should be.

Draft quarterbacks every year, stash them, develop them and then use them

as tradable assets.

Well, that's what the packers do.

So I expect that is what the packers will do because that is, that is how they,

they function for, you know, 30 plus years here.

Damien, I appreciate the insight as always.

My man will talk soon.

Yes, sir, yes, sir.

All right.

Thanks to Jamie and for joining the show, the awesome, to get a different perspective

from him.

I'm locked into and locked on to the way that I see it.

And so I love to be able to talk to someone who's opinion on this.

I, I really, really respect he and Keith, do the work.

I love the way they think the game.

And so getting his perspective, I think is really valuable.

It was valuable to me.

I hope it was valuable to you as well.

We'll be back tomorrow.

Jason Herschorn, who was just on us, on with us for the squad show, is going

to be putting out his hunting for Hasselbeck's stuff.

So the day three quarterbacks that, that the packers are probably going to like.

We'll have him on to talk about that as well.

Probably have some more guests as we get closer to the draft to talk more about this

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