Why won’t Democrats pass the SAVE Act?

Welcome to After Dark of the America Outlaw Tug Media Network.

I am your host, Rob Harper, and my host tonight is Heather Robinson, a contributor for the

New York Post.

Heather, how are you?

Doing great, Rob.

Thank you.

How are you?

Good, Heather.

There's a lot we have to talk about, so we might as well just jump right into it, and

I guess top of mind right now is what everyone is talking about is Trump's response to

Bob Mueller's passing.

I've been on Twitter, and I've given my thoughts on it, and I actually made a video.

And for the most part, I said that, can you blame Trump?

This man tried to destroy his first term in office.

He martyred with this fake investigation, and all he had to do is just to say that there's

nothing there.

This does not take away from Bob Mueller being his time that he served in the military.

It doesn't take away from his distinguished career in politics, but this is a black

eye on his record, and I'm sure that many of you saw him when he went to the heel to

testify, and he was completely lost and not knowing anything for the most part about

his investigation, because he allowed Andrew Weissman to run the investigation.

And if you also remember, it was Bill Barr who came in after Trump picked him to be the

attorney general, came in, and I think to this day, tried to give his friend, because they're

good friends, a way out of this by looking at the facts and saying, there is no there,

there.

Let's move on.

I think Bill Barr didn't like it, but I think being the person who Bill Barr is, Bill

Barr has his own issues, but I think he recognized it as for what it was.

It was a political hit job against Trump, and no one talks about it down, and they don't

talk about it, Heather, because there was never ever any Russia collusion.

There was a complete fabrication created by none other than Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama

opted up by John Brennan and James Comey.

What are your thoughts?

Yeah, I mean, honestly, I didn't pay a lot of attention to the Mueller report or the

Russia collusion hoax, because I was skeptical of it.

I knew there was Trump's arrangement syndrome was real, and it was very tedious.

And I didn't think that there was likely to be anything to it, and now I'm glad I didn't

pay attention, because there was absolutely nothing to it.

All I remember is that Hillary Clinton's campaign fabricated a dossier, claiming that Trump

had all these mysterious and crooked dealings with Russians, including Russian prostitutes,

and it turned out that that was a fabricated document, and they took it before a FISA

court, and got that court, which was something that was created in the wake of 9-11 to protect

the homeland, like allowing warrantless wiretapping, right?

In the case of true national security threats, they fabricated a document to get a judge

to allow them to spy on the Trump campaign.

Personally, that's the part I studied, and I know about it, and I think that's as bad

as Watergate, and I can't get over that the Democrats, including Hillary Clinton, got

away with that.

It just shows what a double standard there is.

I mean, if you're going to shist, don't be conservative.

You know, I mean, most people don't even know about that, because the mainstream media

essentially ignored that part of the story, and yes, I don't know what on Earth they

west wasted the taxpayers' money for for all those years.

I guess it was just all BS.

It's outrageous.

And I mean, I found myself to be the outlier in some conversations this past week, because

most people I know were appalled by our president's candor, but what he said or what he wrote

on truth, social, about that he's someone asked him, what's your reaction to the death

of Robert Mueller?

And I believe Trump said something about something like good.

He can't bother any innocent people anymore.

And one thing I will say about our president, you know, he doesn't pay any heed to the

shibboleths and the what's the word, the morays and the sort of platitudes that you're supposed

to espouse.

He's very candid about what he feels, and I think there's something to be admired.

I mean, I'm sorry for the man's family, and one of my friends who's a veteran who's

very much a gentleman said, oh, our president really had to say it was just, well, I'm sorry

for Mr. Mueller's family.

And left it at that.

That would have been a more polite way to make the point.

But I personally found it, God forgive me.

I found it kind of refreshing that Trump just, I mean, if he doesn't feel real sympathy,

if he doesn't really feel empathy, you know, he's not going to BS.

And I'll tell you what, there are a couple of people on this planet that if I found out

they had died, I wouldn't be sad, and not only that, I would be relieved for the world.

So I mean, I think that's how he felt, and that's what he said, and, you know, there's

something kind of, you know, I mean, I don't think he was, you know, I guess maybe good

isn't the right word, but I mean, is it better to fake?

I don't know, maybe better to say nothing at all, but at least, you know, this president

is not a faker.

Well, that's just standard.

They say that if you don't have anything nice to say about a person, once the person dies,

it's best not to say anything at all.

And we've come on him, we've talked about this before, and a lot of people were trying

to draw parallels between Charlie Kirk and how the right was outraged that they came out

and they said that they're glad that he's dead.

And, you know, and people said it was in poor taste.

I get it.

That's the same thing.

If they want to say this, that's fine, but the apple, the horse cart is going to circle

back around and lo and behold, they did.

No, someone even said that maybe what Trump should have said was to the Democrats, I'm sorry

for your loss.

And maybe that would have appeased them.

But, you know, we see this constantly with them wishing for Trump's death, wanting Trump

to die.

And now when Trump is truthful, they don't like it.

They're like, oh my God, no, no, no, they want to be the judges, they want to be the

Auburn traders.

Yeah.

You know, this is what could have been said, but you put yourself in this man's shoes.

And I think it's hard for people to do it.

He's still human.

And when you look at how they weaponized the government, the justice system, to try and

throw him in jail, take away his fortune to steal his fortune after saying, now remember

when he was running, they were saying that he wasn't a millionaire.

And then all that wants, he's a millionaire and we want to take his money.

Which one is it?

And I don't think there was a billion there, but it doesn't matter.

They still say he had no money.

Remember Rachel Maddow and the tax returns.

So which one, but which one, but which one is it, billionaire?

Which one is it either he has money or he doesn't?

And then they tried to steal the money.

You had Latisha James had him in court wanting him to pay all these excess of fines.

You had judges knowing that this was wrong, but no one wanted to stand up and say, wait

a minute.

This is not how our justice system works.

You just can't go in and just take all the person's money and then just random them,

penniless.

It doesn't work that way.

But a lot of people, non-understanding, our justice system, were completely unaware

of it.

It was wrong to do it.

The charges were completely made up, trumped up charges.

It has never been done before and then for a judge to assess a value on a property that

he knows nothing about, not even going to realtors to say, what is the value of this?

And we're just, and we set there and we watched this train wreck take place.

And now all it wants Trump is supposed to get into the, uh, the marble ban and make

nice and say, oh, well, yeah, this man tried to take me down and I'm so sorry for his

passing.

It doesn't work.

It doesn't work that way.

Well, it doesn't usually, but not with Trump, but he doesn't play the game.

He doesn't, you know, my, my late father used to say, no matter how mean and nasty people

worry each other in life, they all sit and cry at the funeral.

And you know, sometimes there's something hypocritical and fake about it and Trump doesn't

do that.

Well, one of the things that I pointed out, Heather is generally what happens is that

once a person dies, they'll give about a week or two and they'll give them all these

alculates.

But then after that, they'll start saying, but did you know this person did this?

The same thing with Nixon.

Once Nixon died, when Nixon died, before he died, he was evil.

Once he died, oh, he, he, he tried to do what was the best for his country.

Well, he really did, by the way, he did totally demonized for his mistakes, but there were

a lot of good things he did.

Absolutely.

He was.

And then we later president, yes, the media came out and they attacked him and say, well,

this is what he did.

He's a bad person.

Right.

But Trump, Trump is just saying it right up front.

Yeah.

He's just going right at it.

Now, I want to see this to going to the making this a little religious here to my fellow

Christians and to my Jewish brothers and sisters looking at the Bible at Proverbs,

our verbs 11 and 10 says, but it goes well with the righteous, the city rejoices.

And when the wicked parish, there is shouted.

Now, that's, that's probably where we're going to say that when the wicked parishes, you

know, it's almost as if they're saying that people are exceedingly glad that the evil

is gone.

And then there's another scripture and the Bible.

I'm sure this is probably in the Torah as well.

Proverbs 28, 28 and it says, if it's the Old Testament, when the wicked rise, man hide

themselves.

But when they perish, the righteous increase, not saying that Bob Mueller was a wicked man,

but you know, take it, take it, take it for what it is.

This man could have easily stepped aside, but he decided to be political because the

Democrats wanted him to.

He carried their water, tried to take Trump out, carried their water and they did evil.

I mean, Hillary and, you know, with the faking, the dossier and the spying and the lying.

I mean, he may not have been, he wasn't the architect of it.

That's the only thing.

I mean, I think he was hired.

He allowed himself to be right.

Yeah, but I mean, it's kind of like he made, he was, to my way of thinking, he was more

the foot soldier, you know, as opposed to the architect of evil.

I mean, he, whoever came up with it was and continues to be spreading hate.

And I think it's sick, you know, we've talked about this many times.

I mean, yes, not everybody has to like Donald Trump and they don't have to like his policies,

you know, or his personality.

But this obsession with vilifying him, I mean, to me, it seems sick.

It seems like it's getting in the way of constructive dialogue or any kind of focus

on the issues and the complexities of got, you know, what we can do as citizens to help

the country and help our fellow Americans.

I just, I mean, I, listen, I hear myself and I don't want to sound like I'm some

sick of fans and I worship everything Trump does.

I mean, I have a big supporter, but I mean, I, I recognize in myself that, listen,

I'm not perfect.

And I, you know, I get fed up with the left and I demonize them a little bit.

You know, but it's, it's tough not to when, you know, when they're demonizing, not

only Trump, but everybody who supports him and they've been doing that for so many years

as you know, in general, as a, as a, not saying everybody, but, um, I mean,

well, they want us to be, they, they want us to be when they're out attacking us.

We're supposed to smile.

You look at what happened to the government of Arkansas, just recently Sarah Huckabee

Sanders, she went to a restaurant and you have the staff saying that, you know, she's

Don, we want you out of here.

And we saw that throughout Trump's first term in office, people would go to restaurants

where conservatives were eating and they would, they were extremely rude to them.

Even had maxing orders, you say that if you see someone, you surround them and you

tell them that you're not welcome.

Chuck Schumer said something similar.

So they say all these bad things and we're supposed to just sit back and take it,

take the high ground while they're acting out.

You look at what they're doing to ice, not only that, you look at what they're

doing with the, the say back, not wanting to pass the say back and they keep saying

that is going to impact blacks and women.

And here's my response to that.

First of all, it's like a lower expectation of blacks that blacks can't go out black

and brown people can't go out and get the birth certificate.

They can't go out and get ID.

And if it is cumbersome on them, we've been talking about this for how long we have

an election that's coming up in November.

What is it going to hurt for you to start the process now, getting your documentation

together. It's just excuse after excuse.

And then they want to say, well, it's going to impact women.

Well, why are they bringing in the women?

Because that's one of their largest voter blocks.

You have the blacks and then you have women.

Well, they can't, well, why can't women get an ID?

Well, because they changed your names.

Well, you have a large portion of women when they marry the ones that are

marrying because now liberal women are saying, we're not going to marry.

We're not going to have children, but the ones who do marry, many of them don't

even take their husbands last name.

It's like they keep their mate name.

So what is the issue here?

And this is what I wish Republicans would just break it down just like the one

you know that we're voting in November.

And if you're saying it's going to be a hardship on you, why don't you start the

process now?

You could have started the process a year ago, getting your documents together

to get an ID.

Black people have to ride a plane, black people, black people, those who get government

assistance, you have to have ID.

You have to have an ID just about for everything.

So what do you mean they can't get an ID?

What do you mean that women are going to find it difficult because they're

changing their names?

As I mentioned, many of them are getting married and they're not changing their

names.

So why all of these excuses?

You have 89% of the population voters who say that we need voter ID.

So why is it so cumbersome?

Well, we know they just want they want people to have an easier time

shicing and voting twice as well as the illegal aliens to vote.

But I will say it can be a little cumbersome too.

I mean, I know myself, I consider myself a person of somewhat above average

intelligence.

And I'm having a difficult time getting a real ID.

I mean, but I think if you know, I don't agree with you.

I don't think that's really their concern is.

I mean, how much government bureaucracy today preside over in love?

And I mean, that's, you know, Democrats never met a government bureaucracy.

They didn't like, but I mean, you know, I'm all for trying.

Why I mean, they're big on social programs.

Why don't you and I've said this before?

Why don't they create a social program to make it easier to help get the ID?

Yeah.

If you're really an American to help you, you know, so that it isn't so cumbersome

to get your birth certificate and it isn't, you know, I mean,

I know myself, it was a real hassle to get my passport.

I managed it not long ago, but it's like, you know, a several step process.

And you have to wait.

And I mean, they could, we could stand to make this process streamlined

and less horribly bureaucratic.

So why don't they, that's a good point, like work on that.

So we're going to do it and we're going to work on making the process less

cumbersome so that you can get the ID.

I have my driver's license.

I have my New York State ID.

I also have my passport.

I had all the supporting documents to get it.

And I actually got the real ID.

I got the real ID unbeknownst to me because when I, when I first rolled it out,

they said, hey, so I got it.

So it was a driver's license.

Right, driver's license.

So it wasn't an issue for me.

I mean, didn't work because I guess what the time I was getting my last driver's

license update, I don't think it is a real ID.

So I have to go through this additional process.

And get, I think, a social security card or a birth certificate.

I mean, it is a little bit of a hassle.

Well, but, but, but think about it.

If you really, anything worth having is worth working for, I have my Social Security card.

I used to work for Social Security Administration years ago.

So I knew the steps to take to get my Social Security card.

Now online, you can get your Social Security card.

You can get your birth certificate.

Democrats just want to constantly have a, a, an oppressed group that they want

to say they can't get it.

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And we're back for the second half of the show.

We're just talking about order ID and why people should be able to get it.

Well, Democrats are saying that they can't get it.

I mean, they're always giving all these reasons why you can't get what you need to

get.

And then they like to create this bureaucracy.

And as Heather mentioned, why don't they just create a process to streamline

getting your ID?

I mean, at one point, it was very difficult to get your birth certificate,

but you can go on to the burrow of bottle statistics now and you can get it

with them.

I would say within a day's time, your birth certificate, if you have the

information, you know, we were born, where, et cetera, et cetera.

And because they're linking all these systems,

Democrats just don't want to do it because they want to be able to allow

dead people and people who don't belong here to vote, even Chuck Schumer,

Chuck Schumer, and Senator representative Warner from Florida got on the

house floor and they even said it.

Chuck Schumer said, well, yeah, we do have some people who are voting that shouldn't

be voting, but it's only a small amount.

Senator Warner said the exact same thing, but these are the same individuals who

say that illegals aren't voting.

People aren't voting who aren't supposed to be voting.

But then they let the cat out of the bag and no one caught it.

They just danced right over it.

And these are the issues that we have.

And that's the reason why it's something else, Heather, just from looking at

the say back the bill that I wish Republicans would do is that just streamline

the bill, take out everything else because embedded in that bill is them

outlawing trans hospitals, giving performing surgery on minors.

That's in the bill.

So I'm like, take all that out.

And there's a lot of other stuff.

If you read the bill, you'll see what I'm talking about.

Take all that out and just keep it some.

The save act for voting.

You have to have an ID that said and then allow those who don't want it to

stand on the house floor and debate or the Senate floor and tell the American

people why they don't want it.

Give the reasons because a lot of times when we put these bills up there,

the average person is completely unaware that it's not just that.

Now, that's the name of the bill, the save act, but embedded in it are so many

other things.

And this is what people aren't aware of.

They're thinking, oh, no, it's just one thing.

No, there are more things tack on to that bill.

And I think it was done by design so that people would say, I don't know about

this. So there are some Republicans, some Democrats who are in favor of it.

But then they're looking at the trans issue and they're saying, no,

not going to vote for because of this, but that doesn't come out.

And I think that they should just make this a clean bill, get this bill passed

and then as far as the other trans stuff, which is equally important.

Do not get me wrong. It's very important because we are pushing this trans

ideology on our children and it's dangerous.

Kids who are 13 years old who are cutting off healthy body parts and we read

about the stories every day or at least I do.

But the mainstream media has chosen not to cover it.

Why are they doing this?

Why are they trying to deceive the American people?

We've had on our show guest who have said, this is extremely dangerous.

That this might be a phase that these kids are going through.

But once it's over, they will be okay.

Why aren't we getting them the help that they need?

Why don't Democrats say, well, let's get them the help.

Once you become, if you're, when you become 18 years old, if you still feel

that way, that's fine. But you know what else?

We shouldn't have to pay for the government shouldn't pay for it.

An insurer's company shouldn't be forced to pay for it.

It should be considered an elective surgery, just like plastic surgery.

If we're going to allow force insurers companies to perform these surgeries,

then they should be forced to perform plastic surgeries on individuals who say,

oh, I don't like my nose.

Oh, I want to get rid of all the wrinkles.

Oh, I want this.

Otherwise, it's not there.

But no one is stepping aside and sitting down and having the conversation

Heather to look at, wait a minute, does this actually make sense?

What is the difference between a gender surgery, cutting up healthy body parts

and me wanting to, let's say, have a BBL, a Brazilian bud lift, or breast

augmentation. What is the difference?

Well, I'll tell you, Rob, I mean, I myself recently, not so long ago,

had a bad experience with something called Juvederm Ultra injections into my

face. I can't prove this, but I believe it caused inflammation throughout my

body. I had a series of these injections.

These are the injections that give you bigger, you know, cheekbones, because

that's one thing I always wanted to change.

I have paid such a steep price for this.

I was, I had pain in my arms and hands.

I had all kinds of weird feelings of inflammation pulsating in my body.

This went on for quite a long time.

My point is just as an adult, I did this.

I made this foolish decision, apparently a tiny portion of people can have a

reaction like this to this, excuse me, crap, injecting in the face.

Okay. And, you know, I'm going to say right here that this is what I believe

happened. I had a neurologist tell me that's what happened, but I can't prove

it. Okay. So this can fall under the realm of opinion.

But my point is just this brought home to me in such a stark way.

How, how precious our health is.

And if you are so blessed as to have good health, I don't care who you are.

I mean, to me, any unnecessary surgery for something like vanity or even

because you have a psychological feeling.

I mean, to me, I'm just saying to me, I think is absolutely nuts.

And I would shudder to think of any child, anyone, you know, who's under

age going through what I went through with this.

I don't think cosmetic beauty procedures should be performed on under

age people. I don't think this radical surgery that, as you said,

amputates and augments and, you know, going under putting healthy body parts

under the knife is something to do to a child or a minor.

I think it's, it's unconscionable and I think it's a bad mistake.

I really do.

And I don't know what's happened.

I mean, I think our country has succumbed to a kind of a madness over this.

And I admit, I'm not an expert on the subject.

And maybe there is such a thing that we just, we've discussed as, you know,

a gender dysphoria.

There's all kinds of things under the sun.

And I'm not qualified to pronounce that such a thing doesn't exist or

that there has to be one way of handling it.

I, all I know though is that gone is gone.

You know, whether you're talking about death or removing a body part,

these aren't things that are revocable, these are irrevocable.

And there's a reason that we don't encourage people to turn off the machine

when things look bleak, but we're not sure that there's no hope or

to cut off that body part because you don't like it.

Or, you know, drastically, you know, you know, I mean, the point is that a lot

of things heal and a lot of things change.

And especially with young people, young people recover.

And they gain confidence and a lot of the body is quite remarkable.

On the mind too, they, we have these amazing machines that God gave us that,

you know, the one thing we know is they're resilient and they change and

minds change.

But once you've made a change that's irrevocable, that's it.

And I don't think that it does serve the youth of this country well to have

adults who don't have the guts to explain that to young people.

And that doesn't, not to patronize them and say, oh, you'll feel differently.

Look, everyone has his or her own journey or their own journey, but life is long

with luck.

And you just shouldn't be doing things when you're under age that are going

to change you in a way that you cannot, you can't then, you can't, you know,

you can never go back on.

But well, Heather, I appreciate you sharing that with us, your story.

I remember you telling us at one point that there were some issues that you were having.

But I'm looking at you and I'm sure some of our other listeners have seen you on

our live show and you look perfect.

You don't need to change anything.

You're very kind.

Well, a lot of times.

I feel that way.

I'm like, look, you know what?

I may not have cheekbones like the girls on Fox news, but I'm, I'm pretty

enough. I'm most of all, I feel good.

And that's what matters.

That and being good, you know, being, having a life of purpose, having a conscience,

having a heart, feeling, hopefully, good at least most of the time.

I mean, those things I wouldn't trade for any cosmetic change.

And I just would wish that the youth of our country could, could learn that, you

know, as young as possible, but to have health, to have, you know, family,

to have a sense of purpose and life.

These are the kinds of blessings that that's what matters.

That's what you'll take with you, you know, throughout your life.

God willing and into the next.

And, you know, you don't want to, you know, look at our, our service members are heroes.

The warriors who had their limbs ripped off by the butcher, Solomon and, you know,

to me, to me, that's, to my way of thinking, that's just one of the hardest things.

And, I mean, to do that to yourself,

catch yourself up to conform to somebody else's idea, even your own idea about what you

should be.

That's just, it's not wise.

It's very foolish and, you know,

And I wish we had more, like you said, people to talk through this with before they

even consider it, but you have these parents who have been indoctrinated.

Elon Musk has even talked about it.

How would he went in with his son and the doctors told him what you'd rather have a

dead son or a live son who's changing, you know, or trying to change his gender.

And he fell for it only to do his only research.

And that's the other thing.

People aren't doing their research.

They're going in and assuming that what these doctors are saying, it's true because they're

the doctors, they're the experts and they're supposed to do no harm.

Only to find out that a lot of this is like a money making machine and you look at the

amount of money that has been made.

And I'm sure that they're a lobbyist who are on the hill who are lobbying for this.

They're telling Democrats, oh, no, no, we've got to do this.

We've got to do this.

And then those voices in the wilderness that are saying, stop, this is wrong.

This is dangerous.

I read, I think it was the other day that Elon Musk is helping this man.

His wife wants to put their kid through this transgender surgery.

And the, I mean, the kid is just like coolness to all this.

And you have this wacky judge, you have a wacky judge.

I'm just trying to remember the story from memory who has removed the child from the

dad's care and giving it to the mother.

So he's okay with this.

He wants the son to have the surgery.

And so Elon Musk is stepping on it.

He's going to pay for the lock, the lawyer fees and help this guy have to represent this guy.

This is how evil this has become.

This is the guy or the, I guess it doesn't matter which parent it is.

The father, the father doesn't want it and the mother, the judge gave the mother

parental rights over the child.

So the dad has nothing to say.

And this is, and we see this happening quite often with the mother trying to

force these surgeries and the father is saying no, no, no.

And it's on these little boys, not that it's not happening to girls because it is.

Yeah, it's actually more common with girl.

I mean, let me get this right.

More girls say their boys, but I don't know if more girls are actually getting surgery.

So the surgery, it's a bigger phenomenon that the girls want to be called boys than the

other way around.

But I don't think I could be wrong, but I don't think most of those girls, I mean,

it's turned into a huge epidemic among teenage girls, which doesn't surprise me for a couple

different reasons, which I can get into, but that by the numbers, it's actually a lot more

teenage girls are saying their boys than boys who are saying they're girls.

But in terms of who's actually taking hormones and getting the surgery, I don't know.

I think most of the girls who are saying this are just, you know, kind of considering

themselves boys or, you know, asking to be called.

It's almost like a social to me, a social contagion.

Yeah.

And I think that if we allow this just to play out doing those awkward years, those teenage

years, they'll grow out of it.

But what we're seeing happening is that parents are opting for this surgery as young as

eight and nine, which is extremely dangerous.

Right.

It is abuse.

And when you have judges who are on board with this, of course, your kid might say,

well, I think that I'm a little girl.

You know, what if your kid comes and says, I'm a cat?

And you're going to say, okay, these, this is bad parenting.

And these parents need to be evaluated by a psychiatrist.

And we need to have psychiatrists who aren't into politics, who aren't pushing this

because within the past decade or more, you've seen a lot of doctors who are in favor

of this.

And then when you look at their background, you'll see that they have a political

slant, a lot of them have TDS.

I was listening to a show on Fox.

I think it was the Paris Faulkner's show.

And she had this psychologist to come on.

And he said that they had started identifying a symptom TDS that people actually

have it.

They can't rest.

They can't focus.

If you show them a picture of Trump, they go ballistic.

They just go cool.

They're losing it.

See sick.

Yeah, it's sick.

So how it's like, how do we get here?

How do we get to this level of sickness that if you say a person's name, you

become so just like completely disjointed and you're like screaming?

Well, you know, it's kind of to me.

It's a little bit like the mirror image or the opposite of what people were like

with Hitler in terms of the total worship and, you know, unquestioning loyalty

and acquiescence to the furor.

This is like the opposite.

It's like people are, you know, in a lather of hate.

And of course, they would probably say, well, we are sick in our worship of Trump.

And I admit that I do tend to really like him.

And sometimes I have to sort of say, but see, I have something in my

personality where I tend to be that way about all presidents.

Like I have an automatic respect for the president.

Right.

So it's different.

We're right.

Because we saw what's different.

But I, but I also have the self-awareness to know that that has to do with, you

know, it is a certain, um, something in my personality that I tend, I don't

worship, but I tend to have a kind of automatic love.

I think it has a lot to do with having loved and idolize my father a lot.

And anyway, not to get into my whole psychology here, but I think that, um,

it helps to be self-aware.

And, you know, to, you know, let's put it this way.

A lot of these people are not in any kind of real good therapy.

I mean, they may go to a therapist, but probably somebody who just

parrots back to them exactly the way I look at it.

They're in echo chamber.

They don't have the self-awareness to know that they're, they're, um, you know,

they're venting their, their scapegoating Trump and his supporters.

And there's a sick quality to it.

I'm not saying that they're to the point that they would put us in

concentration camps, but they want you.

But it's having, I mean, it is, it's, yeah, I think a lot, a lot of it is obsessive.

And it's, like you said, they can't change the subject when they get going.

And they don't, most of them have the self-awareness to know that this is

probably not, this is exaggerated.

This is out of proportion.

Um, I think that if they were just to stop and look at the reality of it and

look at, wait a minute, this doesn't make any sense.

This man is not bad when you look at how all the people, you know,

but, but this is what I'm looking at.

You look at all the people who respected him before he became president.

And then all of why they realized that he was evil makes no sense.

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Back to the last half of the show and just to put a back

remember what we're talking about is the say back and getting it passed and

also opening up the government and funding the Department of Homeland

Security and we see all the long lines that are at the airport.

We're in the height of the spring break.

People are traveling and why Democrats are refusing to open up the government

is just beyond.

Well, I know why.

So I'm not going to say it's beyond my comprehension because I do comprehend

what they're doing.

They're thinking that they're winning, but they're putting America

in danger.

You're not paying people who should be paid for two weeks.

Government employees are going to miss their paychecks.

Meanwhile, the Democrats are getting paid.

Go figure.

They shouldn't get paid either.

Whenever they shut the government down, they shouldn't get paid.

And I agree with John Fetterman.

John Fetterman, Heather has just like completely surprised me with his

positions and his thought process and him making sense.

Because if you remember earlier here on after dark, we were against him.

We were for Dr. Oz, but John Fetterman has made a complete turn around.

He is the Democrat that Democrats should be.

It's not looking at the party.

He's looking at the issues and what makes sense.

So hats off to John Fetterman.

I know that he's a Democrat.

I know that he could easily flip and do something around the corner.

But right now he's on target and he's saying

open up the government.

This is ridiculous.

We need to fund the Department of Homeland Security.

He supports Mark Winged Mullin to be the new secretary of Department of Homeland Security.

While Rand Paul is being really pissy about it and taking everything personal.

And gosh, I don't know if you guys heard the exchange between Mark Winged Mullin.

Rand Paul, but for the most part, Rand Paul came after him and said,

well, you know, you said that I was a snake in the grass.

And how could you say that?

And are you going to apologize to him?

You said, at Mark Winged Mullin said, you know, if I have something to say to you,

I'll say it in your face.

And he said, but to be honest, he said, I have been on this field.

And I go around trying to bridge bridges, trying to, you know, work with individuals.

You on the other hand, it seems as if though you're constantly trying to go against the president

and what he wants.

And I have to admit, Rand Paul does seem to be that kind of person.

It's like there's nothing, nothing that the president puts up that he will support.

He seems to go, he's always against it.

Go ahead.

Well, maybe I mean, I haven't followed so closely recently.

But one thing about Rand Paul, I mean, I do think he's an important voice.

He's, he's very much a, um, he's a contrarian often.

Oh, yes, he is.

He has that civil liberties perspective.

And I do think that he feels those principles very sincerely.

And I'm trying to think of examples, but I know that he's been quite consistent about that.

And I do think it's, you know, we have our two party system, which it serves a certain function.

It's an organizing principle, but one thing that I personally sometimes appreciate is someone

who can step outside the, you know, outside the sort of knee jerk thinking of either side

and have a, you know, it's hard to be a real independent and get elected in this country.

And I, even though I disagree with him some of the time, I do think it's good that there's someone

who has that perspective that's, um, that's unique in, you know, in Congress.

And so for that, I do think Rand Paul is an important voice myself.

But I, you know, and similarly, Federman has shown that he can think independently.

Maybe it connects, you know, with how he used to sort of think it was not so great.

Although I didn't really care, but I mean, I, I thought it wasn't the most respectful thing

that he ran around in a sweatshirt and shorts everywhere.

But now I see that maybe that's part of his personality and his charm.

And that he, he died, he has that in common with President Trump.

He doesn't pay a lot of heed to convention for convention's sake.

He's very authentically who he is.

And, you know, he doesn't, I don't think try to offend people, but he's not,

he doesn't devote a lot of energy to trying to be inoffensive.

He's more about, here's what I believe.

Here's what is important to me and what I prioritize.

I'm not going to change for you, which, let's face it, politicians are usually big

pleasers and they spend a lot of time trying to moderate their views to get ahead to get elected.

So when somebody, and Federman claims, I know he's said that he's, for instance,

he's stood by Israel through all this horror and this war and the sad reality

that Israel has to fight back and sometimes civilians on the other side get killed.

And I believe with all my heart that that's the last thing Israelis want.

Yeah, but, but they're fighting, they're fighting people who, who don't build shelters for their children,

who provoke a war and then hide among their children.

I mean, this is the reality.

And my point is that, you know, Federman, I think sees the big picture and hasn't let himself be.

He has let himself be vilified for standing for the right thing.

And I think that the strength of character to do that maybe goes along with being someone

who marches to the beat of his own drum and doesn't look just like everyone

addressed, just like everyone and sound just like everyone.

So I don't know, I guess my bottom line is whether it's Rand Paul or Federman.

I think having, having independent voices is very, very important.

Oh, yeah, I agree with you, but I just think sometimes Rand Paul likes to grandstand.

Now, back on Federman, I understand that he's extremely popular with the Democrats,

I'm not Democrats, but Republicans now in Pennsylvania.

So it, that says a lot because at one point they didn't like it.

No, you mentioned the war.

What are your thoughts?

I don't know if you read this in the paper or not that I ran launched a long-range missile

toward Diego Garcia Island, which is in the ocean next to UK.

And to me, them demonstrating that they have the capabilities now,

it didn't hit his target.

But the fact that they have the capabilities to launch a long-range missile that

close to me is indicative of what they were trying to do and will try to do.

So for all the naysayers who are saying, oh, there was no imminent threat to me.

This is an indication that there was an imminent threat that had to be stopped

because if they were able to launch a long-range missile, which is I'm hearing,

which sits roughly 4,000 kilometers from Iran.

Right.

Not to mention the war is going on.

Yeah, yeah.

They're showing us, right?

I so I hope you, I hope the UK, I hope they're waking up and they realize this

because there was a threat.

So all those individuals saying, oh, no, we, is we're dragged to scented this and they did this.

It's like, you don't have, you don't know what they're looking at.

The security that they're looking at and this in itself, they've shown their hands.

So this is indisputable of what else I ran could do and could have done.

Had we not intervened?

What are your thoughts, Heather?

Yeah, I mean, agreed.

I just think that as I've, you know, probably been wasting a lot of time saying on Twitter.

I mean, the other sad thing is how many Americans, hundreds, actually thousands, you know,

if you count Iran and its proxies have been deliberately murdered,

maimed, mutilated, kidnapped by this vicious regime since 1979.

I actually find it very offensive when people say they were not a threat.

Iran was not a threat.

I mean, it's one thing to be against the war and say, you know, but, but, you know,

what have some intellectual honesty?

I mean, if you're a pacifist, say, yes, they were threatening our people,

but I still don't believe that war was justified because better we should let more of our people die,

you know, get pot shots taken at them, get abducted and, you know,

brutalized and killed in their sleep and, you know, kidnapped at a few

hundred over the course of the next few years, then that we should kill too many of them.

In, I mean, that's, that's, or that we should risk, you know,

you know, a bigger conflagration. That's people's position who are against this, but to pretend, you know,

they don't have the honesty to acknowledge all the murder and kidnapping and viciousness this regime has done

to America and to pretty much every other country's citizens in the world. Of course to Israel,

I mean, in Israelis, it's like they don't, you know, the people who are against this war, that would be like me saying,

oh, okay, I'm denying that there are any unintentional civilian casualties in this war.

There, there is no such thing. I'm just not going to even mention it and say this is a war of pure

justice and necessity and nobody who's innocent on the other side is going to get hurt and we should all be a

thousand percent raw raw for it. You know, I mean, that's not honest. The truth is war is horrible and it breaks my heart.

And I know there were a lot of innocent children killed not long ago, the schoolgirls.

Now, I know that their school was located next to an IRGC

facility and I know that the enemy purposely does that

because it doesn't care about its children. I'm not saying none of their parents care it.

I'm just saying that their government doesn't care and that's that's what's sick and evil about that

government and why they're exporting terror around the world for since 1979 and one of the reasons

I believe that on balance tragic as war is this is probably the right decision because if they get

nuclear capability, they have no regard for life and it could be a nuclear war around the world and

better case, you know, worst case scenario that happens, better case scenario. They just don't get

nukes right away, but they just keep tormenting Americans and Israelis and every other country citizens and

you know, I mean, the point is there's no good decision, but I think we should at least have

the intellectual and moral spiritual honesty to talk about, you know, both sides of the balance sheet

and, you know, I think a lot of the opposition to this war, you know, some of it anyway,

I mean, it's not honest, it's not principled, they're not being honest about, you know, to say that

this was just these people weren't a threat, this regime was not a threat, is ignoring the 30,000

innocent Iranians who were just massacred and tortured by their own government, ignoring all

these people who were living under the iron boot of this dictatorship, ignoring the Americans,

taken hostage in 1979, ignoring the 241 U.S. Marines killed as they slept in 1983,

co-bar towers, USS Cole, the bombing of that synagogue in Buenos Aires, October 7th,

which was funded by Iran and killed a lot of Israelis, but a lot of Americans and Thai people and

people from around the world, and that's just, you know, a few mansions, I mean, there have been many,

many, many more incidents of terrorism funded by this regime, all our service members, hundreds

proven to be killed by IEDs placed by Iran and thousands more dismembered, burned, you know,

in Afghanistan and Iraq, I mean, Iran, it's now known was the nexus of all of that, which was

exported and, you know, to Afghanistan and Iraq to target our troops. So I mean, to say they

weren't a threat is dismissing the suffering and, you know, the pain and the premature death of

those thousands of our own citizens. So I really, I'm actually offended, you know, when people say

that it's like, okay, if you're against the war because of the, you know, collateral damage to

civilians on the Iranian side or because you just are principled and you just would rather

be killed and have your family be killed and kill someone else, even in self-defense. I mean,

if that's your position, take that position. Don't tell me they weren't a threat. That's my opinion.

Yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly to say that. It's just individuals who don't care who

aren't paying attention and who aren't in tune. And as Adam Karola said, just keep your

opinions to yourself. I mean, you can have the opinion. I just don't, I think that it's a,

that's a real coward. I mean, they're not there. Just say there was no threat is just to play

pretend. I mean, that's like, that would be like me saying, oh, there's nobody but terrorists

ever getting killed on the other side in a war. I mean, it's not true. So I mean, they can say that,

but this regime proves itself to be a threat over and over and over and over and over and over

again. So essentially what they're saying is they would rather have this regime continue to be a threat

to, to certainly to Israelis and to probably to Americans and people around the world for however long

that goes on and just let them continue to do international terrorism and to fund it and either

let them get nuclear weapons and destroy the world or wait, kick the can down the road, let them

do some more terrorism, you know, for the next few years or for however many years and then wait

until they're stronger and like right on the brink of attaining nukes and try to catch that moment

to then do something. I mean, that's the only, those are the only two other possibilities.

So I mean, I guess you could say that's what you're for and that's what certainly that's what,

you know, that's what we know that the Bushes did and Clinton did, no, Obama did and Biden did.

They basically let these people terrorize the world for the past 50 years, you know, a little

bit here, a little bit there, even the great Reagan did it. I got news for everybody when they killed

those Marines, Reagan didn't, didn't put them out of business, which I know all our listeners

revere him and I think he was a good president in a lot of ways, but I don't agree with that.

I think Trump finally, finally, has putting a stop to this monstrous little puny, arrogant,

evil regime and I think it's way overdue and somebody finally had to do it and I don't know how

any American, honestly, Rob can't feel some relief and satisfaction in that even if, you know,

you have your doubts or you feel bad for the civilians, I get it. But I mean, to me, that's like saying,

not to Germany, I mean, or Imperial Japan really wanted to threat, but I mean, look, there

are leftists who will tell you that Japan was on the brink of surrender when America dropped

the bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. I mean, there are revisionist historians who will tell you

that and the truth is that was brutal. I mean, how many children died? How many innocent children,

you know, it's horrible. The reality is to say, oh, the Japanese weren't a threat to us and the

Germans weren't a threat to me that saying Iran wasn't a threat to us is maybe not a third,

but it's almost, I mean, it's how many, you know, they're dead to America and kill

them and murder Americans until these people get their heads out of their asses and say,

yeah, they were a threat, you know, that, no, you've said a lot and we're up against the time,

so we've got to have to leave it there. I'm glad you all join us tonight and we will continue

to continue the discussion and I hope you will continue to listen. The listen to after dark and

the America outlawed talk radio network, my coach and I has been Heather Robinson,

I contribute the New York Post. As we always say, God bless America, God bless Israel,

and hopefully this conflict will end soon and we will be victorious. Good night and be safe.