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1:01And on Thursday, we shared our thoughts on the year since Charlie Kirk was brutally murdered. In this edition, an AI whistleblower says companies are quickly losing control of the technology, and we could all be dead because of AI within the next decade. Michigan Senate candidate Abdul-El-Sahed is the latest lefty to declare that your kids are not your kids, they're our kids. And Texas Senate hopeful James Talleriko tries to sound like he's tough on his own party until the truth comes out. And in our Chaser of the Week, Pennsylvania Democratic Senator John Fetterman participates at the Republican midterm convention. What does his political future look like? But we begin with really dire warnings from the AI world. Alright Jim, we're all going to die. Which is true, but most people don't think we're all going to die in the next decade unless you work in AI. And that is certainly the situation right now. You write about it in the Jilt today. Axios is reported on Fox News and others have reported on it CNN.

2:02Former anthropic AI, and that term still bugs me because anthropic is, you know, resorts to human. That's what the root of that word is is human. But anthropic AI researcher Jacob Coxen, you write in the Jilt today, caused more than a little bit of a stir when he posted on X Tuesday evening quote, I resigned from anthropic today. I spent the last three years doing pre-training research at both open AI and anthropic. Neither company is acting responsibly. They are racing straight to self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives. The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible. But I hear the same people express fear privately. No other human activity poses this level of danger. And so another guy who was that anthropic named Evan Hubinger, that you quote in the Jilt today says, Jacob is correct. We really do believe AI could kill all humans. I personally think it is a greater than 10% chance within the next decade.

3:04I believe anthropic is trying its best, but we do not have a plan to solve alignment for superintelligence that are not clearly on track to now. Coxen was on Fox News Channel with Brad Bearlastite saying, yes, it's a huge problem, but it's not unsolvable. He says it's not like we think this is some impossible thing. It's just we're racing so fast we haven't got time to solve it correctly. We're not being careful and everyone wants to be careful. So he's sounding the alarm that we need to put some guardrails on this thing before it's too late and it sounds like it might already be too late. So Jim, this seems like more concern than ending net neutrality is going to kill us all and Republican tax cuts are going to kill us all. But this is probably overkill. But when the people who invent this stuff have no way to control it, it does become pretty alarming. Greg, if someone who really understood how things were came to you and I and said, guys, I hate to tell you this, but if you continue doing the three martini lunch podcast, there's a 10% chance it could destroy human civilization and kill every human being on the planet.

4:07I think that's the end of the show. I think we just, I think it's that, you know, it's not a great way to do it. It's a great risk, but is it worth it to do the podcast if, you know, it's going to kill that many people? Thankfully, no one has said that. And so we are going to continue into perpetuity. So I try to walk through a lot in this, you know, to not try not to use one of my cliches, but there is a lot to do unpack here. And I will begin the cox and I'm sure he's a bright guy. It I don't know whether his message is considered more credible or less credible by the fact that he looks like he graduated from Hogwarts last week. A very bizarre Harry Potter resemblance there. Look, you know, anytime someone from the AI industry comes out and says, wow, I'm freaked out. I'm walking away from this. And his coworkers say, yeah, but it's like 10%. That still does not like most of us operate like the three martini lunch podcast. There's really a zero point zero chance we're going to destroy the universe just by doing this sort of thing.

5:07And I also would note when people say, you know, there's a 10% chance that our work might destroy all of humanity. I notice they never quite elaborate how they just kind of basically say at some point the AI will break out of containment and it'll become self-aware and everyone kind of reverts to James Cameron movies. And the whole thing out of this terminator thing was that, you know, and they explain this in the second one like the, you know, the SkyNet is this great program. The Defense Department loves it, hooks it up to everything in the Defense Department, including the nuclear arsenal and effectively gives SkyNet the authority to launch nuclear weapons. And that's like launches them at Russia. I know it because it wants Russia to destroy the US government. And then before you know it, you've got giant metal skeletons walking across a devastated landscape. I think, as I've looked through, not just from the thriller research from other stuff, like there's a lot of ways that if AI decided to mess with us, it could do so. One of the novels I wrote about quantum computing. And like if somebody breaks through on this, you can make an argument that basically all

6:09firewalls and all computer systems are hackable. There's nothing safe anymore that basically these things that we think are utterly unbreakable, suddenly become breakable fairly easily. Now, that's really a bad Greg. I don't know if it ends with the Statue of Liberty in the Beach and Intelligent Bates walking around. Like, you go from like, oh, that would be really bad to, that would be the end of human civilization. I don't know if necessarily get there. Now, I also found an article in the Wall Street Journal from, man, like, early as summer, where basically people were using open AI and basically saying, how can I create a really devastating biological weapon? How can I create a strain of measles that we're resistant to the, uh, uh, that would, affect those who already have vaccinations? AI doesn't have to become self-aware to become really destructive. The idea of enabling people who are angry at the world or who have 11 intentions or something like and giving them ideas and giving them the knowledge that is necessary to do something that is really devastating.

7:10That would be really bad. That would be, honestly, we don't need the Intelligent AI, self-aware AI. That by itself is really bad as is. Um, and the other thing I kind of wonder about, and again, we could talk about this, you know, for hours and hours and we try not to pick this podcast go too long. Greg, how many times in your life have you said, except terms and conditions and it's like 40 pages of solid text in, you know, six point font and they could have language in there. I have, you know, we reserve all rights to your first born and you just got to click, okay, because I want to use the app or something like that. You know, we live in an era with that in which God, we have no idea what we're agreeing to, you know, giving a company or an app access to our phone, to our computers, so all stuff. We live in an era where our refrigerators are connected to the internet. We live in an era where our cars have computer systems. Like, the idea of, oh, we've created this, this AI program that can alter things and it might break out of its, you know, it may not operate by the rules we think it does. I found this fascinating article by a Washington Post tech columnist who says, I told the AI to find eggs that were cheap and it ordered a dozen eggs for $31 and they arrived at my

8:16house and I realized that when I gave it access to the supermarket app, I had forgotten it had access to my credit card and it just bought it by itself and it didn't bother to check with me. So I could see a lot of problems coming out of that, the idea of we end up giving an AI access to that. And this was not, you know, at no point was the AI ordering eggs must destroy humanity, you know, that sort of thing. It just was like, oh, I'm going to help you. I'm going to spend $31 and it doesn't eggs because you've not told me that is too much to pay. By the way, fairly generous tip from the AI. So I know when they say that AI is malevolent, I think it still takes care of workers. So good for that. But so like, like there are real legitimate reasons to be concerned about AI. And I would also note that as someone who uses, you know, Microsoft Word to write the morning jolt and we use computers all the time, I don't love how AI is getting shoved in my face by every app, everything that I use Google, right? You know, oh, we're not going to give you links. We're just going

9:16to give you the AI explanation. Don't worry, you know, the inescapability of AI by the way, I think by all of this, by the way, I think it's a driving factor in the panic over data centers. So look, there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about. I've also heard people kind of, not as convinced that this guy, Cox and Knose as much as he seems to or as he's spent as much time there as he seems to. Again, you know, don't panic. And the other thing, my closing note in the morning jolt was why 2K, you know, you and I are of a certain age. We remember that was a very big deal. And the US total spent like $100 billion updating the software for that stuff. So we've seen this sort of thing before where people are like, this is a really terrible deal. The world's going to end. I put up a link to this fascinating video, with narrated by Leonard Nimoy, Spock, talking about all the dangers of how the Y2K pug is going to destroy your society and how you can help your family prepare. And of course, you know, January 1st, 2000, life went on. It was not a disaster the way the Doomsday predictions were. So, you know,

10:19this is worth keeping an eye on. I would not go into a panic over it. I would not be, you know, digging a shelter in my backyard or moving out to the middle of nowhere. But, um, nobody who gets involved in AI, like joins, signs up to become a participant and to build it because they don't like it. Everybody gets into it because they like it and they see all the wonderful possibilities of it. I don't think there's a lot of pessimism in Silicon Valley. And as a Jets fan, who is very pessimistic, I think pessimism is always a good voice to have at the table. A couple of thoughts here. I'm sure at the time that Leonard Nimoy documentary was fascinating. As he always used to say, I spoke on Star Trek. Also, I've talked to some IT people and they differ on whether Y2K was a nothing burger or whether they had enough time to prepare for it. So it became a nothing burger. So I don't know if there's a parallel to AI there. Also, Jim, prominent political figure. I almost had the opportunity to interview who years ago wanted, I guess it was probably three years ago, wanted to put, uh, bring the world together to put guardrails on AI kind of in a UN style. Michael Ducakis was

11:22trying to get everybody on board to put the guardrails on that. I ended up talking to his chief researcher who I couldn't understand or where he said because English was not his first language. So we didn't end up running the interview, but Michael Ducakis was one of the first people concerned about this thing getting out of control. Well, you know, Greg, he's got the time to look into that sort of thing. Yes, yes, he's had lots of free time. So 1990 when he stopped being governor and Massachusetts and not being in the White House. All right. Well, let's talk about your future. Let's hope you have one. I think you'll still have one. So it's still a good idea to prepare for retirement. I don't think AI is going to get you before then, but you need to be ready for it either way. And you definitely need to make sure that your portfolio is diversified and that you have the most secure retirement possible. And that includes a chat with the good folks over at Noble Gold Investments. They'll explain the precious metals. Why that might be right for you. You make the decision. One thing that you want you to know though is that some of these emerging industries, whether it's AI, whether it's data centers on an on a coast, silver is more and more

12:23critically important. You know, Greg, if and when we live in a terminator style apocalyptic landscape, is your 401k going to be accessible? Probably not. Is the green pieces of paper and your wallet going to be excess immorthwile? Probably gold would probably be worth it. But you know, if you don't take my word for it, you can always talk to the good people at Noble Gold Investments. They're going to be able to explain it and probably give you a sense of like, look, even what if the world doesn't end is gold going to be valuable. Everything is transparent. They're not pushy. They're not high pressure. They see themselves as educators. They want to explain exactly what you're going to buy and why. Oh, in the middle of the future depends on visit noble gold investments dot com slash three ml. That's noble gold investments dot com slash three ml. Download the free investor kit. No pressure, just the information. And for a limited time when you open a new qualified account, noble gold will send you a free one 10,000 gold coin as a thank you gift available for qualified gold IRA accounts and cash purchases. That's noble gold investments dot com slash three ml.

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14:30Earlier this week Michigan Democratic US Senate nominee Abdul al-Sayed became the latest leftist to want control over your kids. Over a decade ago, you and I talked about this a lot at the time. These crazy left MSNBC at the time hosts would cut these ads talking about their far left dream. And one of these commentators was Melissa Harris Perry talking about how kids shouldn't belong to parents. We have never invested as much in public education as we should have because we've always had kind of a private notion of children. Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility. We haven't had a very collective notion of these are our children. So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities. Once it's everybody's responsibility and not just the households, then we start making better investments. Yeah Melissa, I don't think so. But Abdul al-Sayed seems to love that. Here he is talking about how in his estimation,

15:34you know, if we thought of everybody's kids as all of our kids, we'd be making better policy. You know, the number of times people debate whether I'm a socialist or a capitalist. I'm not a socialist. I'm a scientist. I'm a doctor. But if I have one political philosophy, right, it's that I I want us to build what we would build if we took seriously the idea that all of our kids were all of our kids. If we started with that idea, every child is our child. We would build incredible public schools. We would guarantee everybody health care. We would guarantee child care. We would stop putting money in bombs and tanks that kill kids and we would start investing them in infrastructure and opportunity for kids. Yeah, I don't want you making decisions for my kids. That's my child, but we'll get into that a little bit more in just a second. Then he was in another setting. This one was with Nira Tandon, who I don't know, five minutes ago Jim was warning Democrats about candidates like this, but I guess once he's won the primary, uh, al-Bigon's or bygones, but this one, he's a little bit right in the beginning, but definitely wrong at the end.

16:37We've got this culture in our society that we've allowed to fester where we think that when people when people don't have means, it's because they have failed. Poverty is not a failure. That when people live in persistent poverty, it is a failure on our society and not on those people and that we should be driving that conversation and have the courage to have that conversation against this cult of hard work like everybody's got bootstraps to be pulling up. Okay. First of all, just because you're poor, it doesn't mean you're not trying hard and working hard. Those two can certainly be right, but the idea that there's a cult of hard work and that it's society's fault whenever somebody doesn't measure up and finds themselves in poverty. So Jim, target rich environment here, he wants to call the shots for your kids and all that hard work. What a, what a connard. Greg, when you start the program with two clips from Abdul Al-Sahia, do you put me in a situation where I have no choice but to be clear? There's a lot to on back here. First of all, thinking back to that

17:39Melissa Harris-Perry promo for MSNBC. Now, MS now. US spends, we just passed the threshold of $1 trillion on public schooling from coast to coast and everyone. So one question is, when would you, she says we've always underfunded our public schools? Have we? Like, what is the threshold in which you would say, okay, that is a sufficient level because my suspicion is no matter how much it goes up, it's not always going to, the argument from the left is always going to be, you have to go higher. Fairfax County where I'm in right now, they spend a pretty penny on schools. You might be spending a little bit less than in previous years. There are times where you can over, but they pride themselves on that. By the public schooling has traditionally been a local priority, which our communities have more to spend than poorer communities. But however, there's a extensive amount of federal grants that are available. The federal government, state governments do a lot to help out poorer school districts. Anyway, none of this fits in into an MSNBC one. When, when, Abdul Al-Sayed echoes this argument of, it's not your kids, it's not my kids.

18:40It's all of our kids. I am reminded of former Texas Senator Phil Graham, who was, I believe, running for president, something New Hampshire or something like that, and some woman at a town hall insisted that she cared about Phil Graham's kids as much as he did, and he did not believe that, and they went back and forth until finally he said, what are their names? And, I'm surprised, basically, the woman could not name them. So the argument that I abstractly care about your kids as much as you do as their actual parent, that just doesn't hold water, it just doesn't. You can be a very good well-meaning person, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to you care more, or go your decisions or the right ones. Thirdly, when I see him say, like, there was a while where the, for the children turned into this like, there was this backlash against it. People started to recognize it. Any terrible policy can be justified if you say, it's for the children. Floch cameras, we need this for the children. You know, the Orwellian surveillance state,

19:41we need this for the children, the US government knowing every, you know, like every, whatever you're doing, they can basically say, well, what do you not care about kids? You know, Remi, who makes funny videos for the reason channel, makes these very funny, very funny songs, which basically called people will die. And it was basically like, if you want the speed limit above 50 miles an hour anywhere in the country, people will die. You know, the idea that like, any policy could be justified in the name of safety. This is the philosophy that's at work here. When Abdul Al-Sahad, we shouldn't be spending money on bombs and tanks that kill kids. Any bomb or tank that can kill any adult is also going to be capable of killing kids. Now you try not to. Our side does not aim for kids, the other side, we might be coming up on an important anniversary coming up this week. They tend, they don't care about civilian casualties. They don't care if they hit kids. The Beslan school massacre, things like that. I suppose, Abdul Al-Sahad would like our tanks to be made of Nerf, so they're squishy and you won't have contact with it. Finally, the argument, the cult of hard work, microtures, please run an ad on this and please say, do you think the problem

20:43with America is that we work too hard? We're doing the problem with America is not enough people work hard enough. And I think that, I find it very hard to believe that the problem is that America, Americans, are there Americans who are overworked? Are there Americans who work too hard? Yeah, probably. But this argument, like you see you point out, no, not everyone is poor, has made bad decisions that have put themselves in that situation. But some have. And it's really unfair. The fact that you're poor is not automatically a side of being virtuous. It's not automatically a side that you've made good decisions. It's not obviously a side that you have worked hard. So again, it does not surprise me that a democratic candidate is denouncing the cult of hard work. And let me point out, had you talked to me anywhere from like teenage or hood to maybe 25 or so when that delayed development of executive function and male brains finally kicks in, I might have agreed with you that star in cult of hard work. I was a time in my life. I was kind of lazy. So that's when I was in the target demographic for Abdul al-Sahiad in this message. Nonetheless, I'm hoping this does not

21:45succeed. I got him at the polling has had him a small lead so far. Microtures, you gotta get on the stick. Let's go. This is about beatable guys. You're ever going to find in the state of Michigan. Exactly. But the left has gone down this road, not just since that ad from Melissa Harris Perry, but well before that, thinking that they just know better. I mean, that's their mantra on everything. And so just get on board. Nancy Pelosi, you'll find out what's in the bill after we pass it. That kind of thing. Just trust us. We know better about what is good for you than you do. So instead, most of us would be like, give me as much of my money back as possible from the taxes that I pay and let me make the decisions on where my kids go to school. What doctors they see and that sort of thing. Instead, I'd do a lot of say I had and so many others just want government to dictate all this stuff. That's their idea of these being our kids. You know, like the ads write themselves, what has the federal government done to make you believe that they deserve more power and more authority about how your children are raised? Yes. Get out of my life. I put it that simply. And I think

22:47I don't want the government in my children's life hardly at all. But anyway, now, we said target rich environment for my carotures and other groups potentially involved in that campaign. So we will see. We will see. There's less than two months now to go before election day. But speaking of health care, if on bill else, I had gets it's way it's going to be a lot more complicated to me waiting a lot longer and it's just going to be you know, eventually later rationing because there's no other way out of it once you start trying to trying to not hemorrhage money all over the place. But for right now, when it's time to find a doctor, there's no better way to do that than with Zachdach. Zachdach could not be easier. It lets you search and compare local in network doctors. Jim and I have both used Zachdach and have had great results. You know Greg, I don't know if Abdul-Alessaed is on Zachdach. He's not a practicing physician, so he's probably not. His wife is a practicing physician. She's a psychiatrist and she does not take Medicare. Ironically, of course, Abdul-Alessaed wants Medicare for all, which you won't have private

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24:58Telehealth maybe, but the pharmacy's closed. You needed a medical emergency kit. These aren't first aid kits. They contain essential prescriptions used for over 30 common conditions, sinus and ear infection, UTIs, stomach bug, travelers diarrhea and more. On hand before you need them. Use your doctor-developed guidebook to select the right prescription or call their telemedicine doctor standing by. It's like an urgent care and drugstore at home. When you're sick, traveling or stranded, you'll wish you ordered a medical emergency kit. Order online in minutes and it's shipped to your door and say $45 with my promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue. That's promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue. Ah, James Tallerico, you thought you're off the hook today because we talked about Abdul Al-Sahed and the first martini. Not so, my friend, not so. Well, James Tallerico, of course, is trying to pretend that he's a centrist now because he's running in Texas and needs to win statewide in the general election. So he sat down with CBS news and he's claiming,

26:01oh, I was very critical of Joe Biden's handling of the border crisis. And to his credit, the CBS reporter doing the interview says, what exactly was that before Biden left office or after? And watch the slick way that James Tallerico tries to slip the out of the trap here. Now, had tip to Western Lensman online for getting not only the CBS news clip, but the actual speech Tallerico is referring to here and how it doesn't match up at all to what Tallerico says it did. I called out Joe Biden when he failed us on our southern border when there was complete chaos in our border communities. I called him out for his failures on immigration. And I'll continue to call out any Democrat who is not serving the people of Texas. When did you push back against President Biden's policies? Was it during his presidency or was it after the president? Yes, you know, I gave a speech in 2022 and the middle of his presidency calling out the failures of the administration. Mr. President, you saved our nation once by defeating Trump.

27:05Now we need you to restore its soul by defeating Trumpism. We need, we need you and our nation's leaders to start using every tool in the toolbox to protect our freedom, lease federal land to abortion providers, declare a public health emergency, impeach justices who lied under oath, prosecute Trump and his fellow insurrectionists, and finally call to filibuster what it is, a Jim Crow relic that stand between the American people, and cheap prescription drugs, universal pre-K, and a livable planet. Mr. President, play to the fullest extent of the rules. So you'll notice that right before he said I condemned the administration in 2022. He didn't mention that he was condemning them for their horrible immigration policy. If anything, that was back in his, the border should be a welcome that phase of his political career. So Jim, you got to pay close attention to these people because they'll

28:08try to fool you all the time. Greg, I tell you, James Tallerico treats the truth in his constituents, the way Ken Paxton treats his wife. Just one betrayal after it. I hope people are watching on the YouTube version just to see Greg's reaction when I say these things. No, but like this is, here's like people of Texas. Ken Paxton is as an exceptionally flawed human being, but you know what? Ken Paxton's fairly honest about what he's done in office. If James Tallerico is telling you, oh, yeah, I stood up against this. Oh, yeah, I was, you know, and then he didn't. If he can't be honest about what he's done, why do you think he's going to be honest about what he's going to do? You're not going to get even a John Fetterman style Democrat if you like this guy. You're going to get a Bernie Sanders down the line lefty guy. And, you know, is Texas perhaps not quite as red as it used to be? Yeah, it's been 30 some years before since any Democrat is one statewide. Nonetheless, like this guy, like there's a certain shamelessness there. I talk about him having the dead eyes of a reanimated, how do you do to do all? There's just the absolute confidence in which

29:13he insisted that all he made it sound like he got in Joe Biden's face, right? Then he was, oh, I, you know, no, you weren't. No, you're to the point to the degree you should criticize Joe Biden's presidency. It's because you thought he wasn't hard enough to the left because he wasn't progressive enough. And you wanted to get rid of this quote unquote Jim Crow Relic. Would that be the same Jim Crow Relic that Democrats are using right now? Yes. To block a whole bunch of Trump administration priorities or Republicans want to do. So Democrats and the minority. So the the filibuster is good again, right? And if they win the majority, it's going to go back to being bad. We can see this. You say these things on camera. They don't disappear. And you're all hoping that people won't go back and check what you said. So there is a shamelessness here that is kind of shudder inducing in the case of Tolerigo. The utter confidence, I mean, I just think he should probably be doing that that a 24 documentary that's coming out with the the Toronto Slatey that that was all ability to lie.

30:13I'm just doing wide ranging in my pop culture references. No, no, this is this is just amazing. But completely powerful. The course, you know, and this this happens across the political spectrum to some extent. People think they can, uh, globally get their way out of any political bind based on, on, you know, their ability to, to just have the gift of gab. You know, the the Republicans, they shouldn't have done it. But what they should have just threatened to do publicly. Like when the the Democrats want a court pack and want to add four more justices, the Republicans like a year ago should have been like, okay, let's do it. Right now when the Democrats freak out, I'm like, oh, so it's not a good idea or it's only a good idea when you have the votes to do it. So at some point, you know, there's going to be a, you know, someone's going to say to Tolerigo, wait, are you absolutely sure you stood up to Biden? That sounds like a deception. He's going to say, of course, I'm not deceiving you. I'm engaging with you as a human being. Why would I deceive you? There's there's no reason for me to do that. All right, you're being real right now. I'm always being real.

31:14All right. For those who have that scene, this is a movie coming out. Uh, it's a documentary about the woman who founded Theranos shortly before she goes to prison. And she just comes across as the most unbelievably disturbing. You cannot trust this woman. Crazy eyes. One, you've ever seen in your life and the reaction of the interviewer is pretty funny as well. Just just the sense of like, oh, God, I'm dealing with someone who was like, would stab me if, uh, if there was any advantage to her. So the eyes tell a lot of people pay attention to the eyes. All right. Let's talk about it way to make those teeth healthy though. Uh, you know, you need to brush at least twice a day, right? You also need to floss. Your dentist is not wrong about that. Of course, but there's also one more way to help strengthen your teeth. And that's with Lorinco, which is a better for you chewing gum that uses the very same mineral your teeth are made of to support daily enamel health. You know, Greg, I hope to be around for a long time. But when I kick the bucket, I want my headstone to say, Jim Garrity, good father, good husband, hard worker, learned how to pronounce nanohydroxy appetite.

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33:18Urgent care, close ER slam telehealth maybe, but the pharmacies close. You needed a medical emergency kit. These aren't first aid kits. They contain essential prescriptions used for over 30 common conditions, sinus and ear infection, UTIs, stomach bug, travelers diarrhea and more. On hand before you need them. Use your doctor developed guidebook to select the right prescription or call their telemedicine doctor standing by. It's like an urgent care and drugstore at home. When you're sick, traveling or stranded, you'll wish you ordered a medical emergency kit. Order online in minutes and it's shipped to your door and say $45 with my promo code blue at urgent care kit dot com slash blue. That's promo code blue at urgent care kit dot com slash blue. All right general quick here at our chaser John Federman showed up sort of at the GOP midterm convention. He appeared by video to introduce his great friend and Pennsylvania Republican Senator Dave McCormick, he immediately issued a statement saying this doesn't mean I'm not going to stay in

34:22the Democratic Party. I vote with you people 90% of the time. I think the number is slightly less than that, but it's still overwhelmingly most of the time, but you had folks on the CNN panel yesterday saying, he's a trainer to the Democratic Party. Other people saying, oh, he's certainly going to jump now. He insists he's not other Democrats are telling some other Democrats to calm down because they think they need that vote in the next Congress and so forth, but it's a little bit further down the road when you start showing up at other people's conventions. So Greg, at the start of the week, I wrote up this in my Washington Post column. I had been a skeptic of the notion that Federman was going to switch parties. As you wait, the last number I'd seen was 78% of the time you votes with the Democratic Party. So if you're a Republican in Pennsylvania, why would you want a senator who only votes your way roughly one out of every five times? Maybe you can get up to one out of a reform, but that's you figure you could find any replacement level Republican would do better. Now, if you're a Pennsylvania, I would say enjoy it while you have it, having one Republican senator and one Democratic senator who get along very well and work together on your state's

35:26priorities, that's really good, but that was used to be like fairly normal in the US Senate. It was not that rare to have states that had one Democrat and one Republican. And whatever else, they thought of each other or other disagreements, they had to work together to serve their constituents as best they can, and particularly to protect local industries and things like that. So, but I now look at something like this. Federman knows what he's doing. This is a highly symbolic gesture here. He's odds of re-election. He's approval rating amongst Republicans and Democrats has basically flipped over the last two years, which by the way demonstrates how little people pay attention to voting records. And I think if you're a Pennsylvania Republican, you can love the guy for his stance on Israel. You can love the guy for his stance on saying, you know, border security is not xenophobia. We love how he makes fun of Bob and Endez, who's now, you know, making license plates. There's a lot to like about the guy. I also'd be very glad that he recovered from the stroke as well as he has, but in the end, he's not really Republican. I do think he's very likely he's going to run for re-election, which is not a guarantee. He's going to run

36:28as an independent. I think his path is no way he wins a primary in that state. And again, I don't think it makes sense for him to switch to the Republicans because in the end, he is more left of center than he is right of center, even though he has some very high profile exceptions to that. But something like this, look, is a nice thing to do for McCormick, sure. Does he kind of know that this is going to enhance his image as a guy reaches across the aisle, sure. But also this is a, like if you, this is a Republican midterm convention. And a Federman shows up there, he's, you know, he is well along the road to Zell Millerdom. Sure, but Zell Miller never switched parties. He did give the keynote address at the 2004 Republican convention. So if John Federman shows up at the GOP convention in two years and says that the Democratic nominee is going to hollow out the military to the point where we're going to be left fighting with spitballs, then you know he's gone full Zell Miller. Yeah, for a good point, but I think he's going on that road. That is the direction he's pointing in. Or Joe Lieberman, anishoness. That is the probably best parallel of a guy who lost his primary right as an independent and remained in the Senate for a believ-

37:28Joe Lieberman, former 3-Martini lunch podcast guest, I should point out. That's the last call of the week for the 3-Martini lunch. Please subscribe to the 3-Martini lunch Monday through Friday. Also, please leave us a review. You can also get the 3-Martini lunch on your home devices. All you have to say is play 3-Martini lunch podcast. Follow us on X. Jim is at Jim Garrity. I'm at Greg Carumbus and follow 3-Martini lunch on Facebook and Instagram. Have a good weekend and please join us on Monday for the next 3-Martini lunch. Dave Roberts here. There you are surrounded by fans, sharing wings, sharing drinks, high-fiving random strangers. Everybody remembers the game. Nobody remembers the guy coughing behind you until a few days later. At 2am, you wake up with the fever and your throats on fire. Now what? Urgent care, clothes, ER, slam, telehealth, maybe, but the pharmacy's clothes. You needed a medical emergency kit. These aren't first aid kits. They contain essential prescriptions used for over 30 common conditions. Sinus and ear infection, UTI,

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