Will Gonzaga's loss to Saint Mary's keep them from No. 3 seed? | What Zags NEED to do in WCC Tourney

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Gonzaga's dream of a number two seed died in Morocco on Saturday night, but folks a three

seed is still very much in the conversation for Gonzaga.

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Folks, we got some mailbag questions to answer today.

We're going to talk a little bit more about Gonzaga's second half struggles against St.

Mary's.

What adjustments Randy Bennett made that Mark Fu was unable to counter, plus we got an update

on the Zag women's team as they close out their final regular season in the West Coast

Conference.

What that means for them heading into the WCC tournament.

But first, as promised on Sunday, slash Monday's episode of Lockdown Zags, we are going

to talk about what Gonzaga's loss of St. Mary's means for them in a bracketology perspective.

There is Gonzaga currently expected to land in the 2026 NCAA tournament with selection

Sunday, just a few weeks away.

What might change between now and then with Gonzaga playing at least one likely two more

games in the WCC tournament?

Currently, Gonzaga's, of course, 28 and free on the season.

They finished 16 and two in the WCC regular season tied for first place with St. Mary's.

Coming into that game, they had been widely projected as a number three seed.

Global minority, Mike DeCoursey at FS1, Rocco Miller at Bracketeer, many, many, many other

places.

If you follow Bracket Matrix phenomenal website, by the way, it tracks like hundreds of

different brackets and kind of gives you an aggregate of where all these teams are.

Gonzaga was pretty safely in that three seed conversation coming into that game against

St. Mary's.

Now, not as many brackets have updated as I'm recording this on Monday afternoon.

Some of them have some of them have not a lot of brackets like Lunardi has given a part

of his update, but hasn't given the full thing.

But a lot of them will update on Tuesday.

They kind of wait for these big Monday night games, which as I'm recording right now,

Duke and NC State Iowa State and Arizona have not played.

That will have some impact on where Gonzaga lands, in particular with Iowa State being a

team that could be in that two, three, maybe even four seed conversation.

But right now, the brackets we have seen that have come out since Gonzaga's loss have

generally moved Gonzaga down to the four line.

And I think that's kind of what we expected to happen.

The spread between like the last two seed and the first five seed, that kind of 10 game

or 10 team grouping is very, very narrow.

There is not a lot separating the final two seed and the first five seed.

It is really a close group of teams in that mix, and we are seeing tons of teams fly

up and down, produce, moving down, Illinois is moving down.

Iowa State is moving up and down, Texas, Texas, moving up, Michigan State had a good week

and went from a four seed to a two seed like that is there is a lot of movement around

those teams right now.

And we've always known that Gonzaga has always had a thinner margin of air because the

resume quality cannot stack up to teams in the big 10, big 12 SEC by virtue of just not

getting to play as many good teams night in a night out.

A team like Michigan State can have a bad week and then have a really good week and

then a good week for them is getting two quad one wins, which is what they did.

Like really, really quality wins.

That's just harder for Gonzaga to come by, which makes their bad weeks stand out a lot

because they'll have a bad week and lose to a team like Portland or they'll have a

bad week and a bad game and lose to a very good same areas team like the loss on Saturday

was not catastrophic.

It was frustrating to watch and agonizing from a rivalry perspective from the finality

of it all like there was a lot of reasons that that game was not fun, but from a pure

resume NCAA tournament perspective, it was a quad one road loss that ended up being

by 11 points, not a great margin, but also not a terrible margin, a 11 point loss on

the road to a team that's 21st in the net is just not going to really hurt your resume

all that much.

What hurts is having a seven point lead in that game at halftime, but I digress.

Gonzaga right now again on Monday afternoon, sixth in the net, 12th at Kenpom, 10th at Wins

Above Bubble, which is a stat on Bart Torvich's website that is used heavily by the Selection

Sunday Committee reportedly.

It's used I think more so to actually determine the bubble teams, but it does have an impact

on seating as well.

So sixth would be a two seed, Gonzaga is not going to be at a two seed, 10th would be

a three seed, 12th would be right on that borderline between a two and a three seed in that

conversation.

Obviously, those metrics do not, you don't just straight up seed based on any of those

metrics, but it puts a picture of Gonzaga being maybe a little closer to the three seed

conversation than the four seed, but most of the bracketologists again of the ones that

have come out since then kind of disagree and have Gonzaga sitting more on that four

line.

We're talking about a three loss Gonzaga team, three losses, but there have not been that

many three lost Gonzaga teams.

I know it feels like this is something to do almost every single year, but it's not.

It's rare.

And when Gonzaga has had three lost teams, they have almost always, in fact, I think always

have been three two or one seeds.

I don't know if they've ever had one as a four seed.

Again, Gonzaga's loss to Portland is a quad three loss and it is a bad one.

I mean, Portland's not a good team.

And it was like it is the worst loss that they have taken in a year where they have had

this few losses by a pretty considerable amount.

The loss to Michigan is not bad in the sense of the quality of the opponent, but they got

smacked by 40 and that will have an impact on how the selection committee who are, you

know, not computers.

They're real people will will evaluate Gonzaga knowing what happened in that gate.

It's also worth acknowledging that the injuries to Bradenhoff and Jalen Wurley will also

impact how Gonzaga has seeded, which is a big thing that could potentially change between

now and March 16th when the selection committee ends up determining where Gonzaga and where

everybody else lands in the big dance.

Because we know that when the selection committee met a few Saturdays ago and revealed their

top 16, which at the time Gonzaga was a three seed, when they met at that time, they said

that Gonzaga had jumped Texas tech in part because Texas tech's JT top in an all American

candidate, I mean, an all American last year went down with an ACL injury and was going

to miss the rest of the year.

The committee took that into consideration and bumped them down with Gonzaga moving ahead

of them.

Texas tech has since moved back ahead of Gonzaga because they have gone three and oh with

a massive road win over Iowa State without JT top in and the committee has since re-evaluated

Texas tech's resume, sands JT top in and has moved them back up, which I think is the

correct thing to do.

Gonzaga has obviously picked up nice wins without Braden Huff, they have beat St. Mary's without

Braden Huff, they beat Santa Clara without Braden Huff, like they have gotten good wins,

but they've also had their loss to Portland, their loss on the road to St. Mary's, again,

not a bad loss, but a team that they lost to without Braden Huff, they did not have

Jaylen Whirley in that game.

We don't know, we know that Braden Huff will not play in the WCC tournament, as of now

we don't know if that is the same situation for Jaylen Whirley or not.

We expect, we hope, that he will suit up in those games, but we don't know at this point.

And it will be a factor on Selection Sunday.

If Gonzaga wins without Jaylen Whirley and Braden Huff, that will help them in the sense

that they will be evaluated of like, hey, this team is still good and still effective

and can still win basketball games, even without one of their best players.

If they lose without Jaylen Whirley, that will be taken barely considerably into account

according to the committee in the sense that they might move them down quite a bit because

they don't have a key player and it's clearly impacting them.

Right now, I think this is as simple as we can put it.

Gonzaga still has a chance to get a three seat if they win out.

Any losses in their done.

Obviously, if you lose that first game in Vegas, which will be to Oregon State, San Francisco,

or a couple other bad teams, likely one of Oregon State or San Francisco, if you lose that

game, that would be a quad three neutral site loss.

I think at that point, Gonzaga moves out of the three-seat, out of the four-seat, possibly

out of the five-seat conversation.

I think they would probably get a five, but it wouldn't even stun me if they got a six.

And that would be crazy for what it's worth for a four-loss Gonzaga team to get a six-seat,

but if two of those losses are quad three, and if there's injury concerned about your

roster, I could see it happening.

I think the best case for Gonzaga if they lose that game is a five-seat.

Gonzaga hasn't lost that game in 30 years.

So let's assume they win it, and they play either Santa Clara or St. Mary's in the WCC

championship game.

Those teams are not creative equally, but they are both quad one games on a neutral floor.

If Santa Clara's 40th right now, if they beat St. Mary's and make it to the championship

game, they will very clearly still be top 50.

That's what you need to be for a neutral site, quad one game.

If Gonzaga wins that game, they will bump up to what, seven and two in quad one games.

They will be top 15 and wins above bubble because they already are.

They will be top 15 and Kenpom, probably top 12.

They'll be top eight in the net because they're already there.

So if you're talking about a team that's seven and two in quad one, that's what 29 and

three, 33 overall, 33, 72 in quad one games, top 15 and wins above bubble, top 15 and

Kenpom, top 10 in the net.

I think that team's kind of hard to keep off the three line.

I think that team's hard to keep off the three line.

I'm not saying it wouldn't happen, but I'm saying I think there would be some stink if

it did happen.

I think that team being a foreseed would be a little questionable, unless a lot of other

teams in that conversation just really kill it in their conference tournaments.

But since a lot of these teams will be playing each other, somebody's going to have to fall

out of that conversation.

I think if Gonzaga wins their final two games this year and finishes 33 on Selection Sunday,

they will be a number three seed still, but the margin of air is non-existent.

If they lose that championship, game three seed is gone.

I think they're a foreseed.

I don't think they would drop all the way to a five seed in that case.

We'd be talking about a team that's six and three in quad one games that only has four

losses on the year.

I think they'd still probably be a foreseed maybe, maybe a five seed, but I don't think

it would drop any lower than that.

Well, obviously, take more of a look at this as the week goes on, Gonzaga doesn't play

again until next Monday.

We'll see what other changes, what other brackets come out, what other teams do around

the college basketball landscape to potentially change this conversation.

But for right now, we're going to take a look at a few more things that maybe went wrong.

For Gonzaga on Saturday night in Maraga, some more from our mailbag segment, all that coming

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We got some mail bag questions that were submitted over the last week or so.

We're going to cram them in here on this Tuesday show before we then close out the show talking

about the Gonzaga women's team and where they ended up in the WCC standings.

First question here comes from Brandon via Gmail Brandon says, I'm a huge basketball

fan, but not going to pretend I understand what sort of magic Randy Bennett pulled on

in the locker room at halftime.

I know at the end of the game, Mikey Lewis said they got an earful, but what moves did

he make that few didn't counter?

Well, I'm going to throw out a fantastic resource to find some answers to this question.

It is from the great Stephen car.

Many of you might be follow him on social media on Twitter X.

He is S car go.

He's he was actually the original host of the locked on Zags podcast for a couple of months

before I took over.

He works now at Gonzaga and he posts great video threads, great analysis on this team.

He posted a thread on Twitter on Sunday after the game showing all 16 of Gonzaga's makes

from the three point line or excuse me, same areas as makes from the three point line.

If Gonzaga made 16 threes, this is not a conversation we would be having.

And you can really see the difference in some of the things that same areas did in the

first half where they still shot it well from three and in the second half where they

shot it even better.

I'm not going to go into all of the detail because that would take way too long, but I will

say that Gonzaga, they go over screens and they switch a lot.

And same areas basically found ways to take advantage of that.

In particular, one of the things that they were able to do a handful of times was get

Emmanuel and agenda into a switch.

So they would have Paulus Morowskis usually would come up set the screen for Joshua Dent

because in the Chente was guarding Dent.

And if they if in a tent they was able to fight through it right, if not, they would switch

and in a tent they would be guarding Paulus Morowskis.

Morowskis would then go down to the block.

That takes in a Chente out of being a defender on the perimeter.

He is the best perimeter defender on this roster.

So having him down around the block is not ideal, even though he's capable down there.

What would then happen is there'd be a series of other ball screen actions, dribble hand

offs, whatever.

And eventually the ball would get swung around.

And Morowskis in this case would pin in a Chente.

So in a Chente would need to get out to the corner to defend a three point shot.

He would turn to do so and Morowskis would be in front of him.

It's basically a screen of sorts.

And in a Chente would get around him, but it's just a step slow getting around him, getting

his hand up as too late and Danter Lewis or whoever would hit a three.

That happened a couple of different times.

There was a time when Grammy K was coming to double team.

Same Harry's knew that Graham was coming to double team on Morowskis when he did that.

In a Chente slid down to guard Harry Wessels, Harry Wessels hid in a Chente.

They swung the ball around, got an open three.

Those are the kind of things they were able to do.

They typically requires a rewatch or dedicated film to see some of that stuff because it's

all happening as much as Saint Mary's plays a slow pace.

It's still all happening quite fast out on the floor.

But those are just a handful of things.

Again, you can find the thread on Escargo on Steven's Twitter account to see some more

things.

But I think those were some of the biggest things.

I think more broadly, Gonzaga was got worn down a little bit and nobody should ever truly

blame this as the reason that they lost, but that place is hot.

It is a difficult environment, a difficult road environment.

I think this team just got worn down by Saint Mary's patience with the basketball consistent

ball movement.

They make you play defense for a full 25 to 28 seconds, every single possession.

And a shorthanded Gonzaga team got worn out by that.

I mean, again, that is a very boilerplate, simple explanation, but there is some more new

wants to some of the ways that they got some of those open looks from three, which ended

up burying the Zags because they got confident.

And then Mikey Lewis was hitting threes that were well contested because he had that

confidence to hit those shots because of how well he was shooting the ball earlier in

the game.

Next question here comes from Jeff.

Via Gmail, Jeff says anyone who has ever been to the WCC tournament knows that Gonzaga

fans are an overwhelming majority after this year, the WCC has one more year scheduled

at the Orleans arena with Gonzaga leaving.

What do you think happens to the WCC tournament and where could it end up being played in

the future?

Yeah, I don't really think there's a compelling reason for it to move.

I think it's going to likely stay there.

I don't have any inside information on this.

I don't know if Stu Jackson and the Orleans are working towards an extension or a renewed

contract, or if they're going to part ways or look in another direction.

But what I do know is that the WCC and the WAC have both played at the Orleans arena

in the last decade-ish or so.

The WAC has effectively disbanded its partner with another conference and is having most

of their games or most of their teams are Texas-based now, and they're not going to continue

to play at the Orleans arena because the deal they had was with the conference that

ceases to exist.

So with the WAC no longer playing at the Orleans arena, I would imagine that they would like

to keep the WCC.

Even a Gonzaga list WCC is still putting more butts in seats than the WAC tournament

was for the most part.

Grand Canyon traveled well.

Mostly other teams did not.

But I still think those other teams in the WCC travel well better than the other teams

did in the WAC.

And now again, the Orleans doesn't have a choice.

They have to, if they lose the WCC, they don't have a conference tournament and I think

they want butts in seats for that event for a really, really busy time in Las Vegas as

a whole.

They want a piece of that action.

So I don't think anything will change.

I don't see why the WCC would voluntarily move on.

They're not going to move somewhere bigger than the Orleans arena.

That would be very silly.

And I don't think they're going to move anywhere smaller.

That is an option.

But I don't think from an optics perspective, the WCC wants to do that.

So I think that both sides are motivated to continue this relationship going forward.

And I expect that to be the case until I hear or I'm told otherwise.

I think the WCC will bank on UC San Diego, not this next year, but the following year,

potentially bringing in a pretty hefty fan base as well and hopefully kind of helping

to put some of those butts in seats.

I don't want to question this segment comes from Brandon via Gmail.

Brandon says, I don't remember a Gonzaga team playing this unselfishly.

One that genuinely seems to love competing together.

Take the point guard situation this year.

As you've mentioned on your show, credit to Braden Smith for handling his benching with

maturity and keeping his head up during the game.

And I should clarify, this was the Portland game on Wednesday during the game after

Brad made a great play in Shantae called Time Out.

The first Ag to celebrate with him was Mario.

I once read research suggesting a correlation between team success and the number of high

fives and positive interactions among players.

It may sound minor, but the way this group is connecting and supporting one another feels

meaningful.

Chemistry seems real and I think it could pay divins in March.

Yeah, I actually made a note of that specific interaction as well as soon as it happened.

I was like, oh, that's great to see those two guys playing together because it didn't

happen very often.

But you can see the camaraderie and you can see the kind of unselfish cheering for each

other, despite being quote unquote, competitors for minutes at the same position.

I always think that's a key thing to note.

I would be curious on this research because in some ways, I'm having a correlation causation

argument of like, well, yeah, a team that's doing better is going to have more high fives.

So I don't, I would need to look at the research to be able to confirm that because like, yeah,

that makes sense to me.

If you're winning more games, you're probably high fiving more and vice versa.

But regardless, in an era where teams are turning over roster so often, and that includes

Gonzaga.

Gonzaga is not necessarily keeping more players around longer than a lot of other teams.

They're doing it more than certainly than some teams, but you know, they've had a fair

amount of roster turnover year over year.

And yet the problems that you see at programs like Auburn and at USC and at Kentucky and

at Maryland and at many other teams where they're Baylor, where they're having full roster

turnovers year over year.

And they're also having very obvious team chemistry issues on the floor.

They're having effort issues.

They're having guys getting in fights.

They're having players who don't want to play for each other.

They just want to play for themselves.

This is an extraordinarily rare thing at Gonzaga.

And in an era where again, players are now making money.

Players having more vested financial interest in playing for themselves as opposed to playing

for the team.

They also don't feel as stock or tied to the specific teams that they're on.

It is easy to see how those chemistry issues could continue to happen and why they're

cropping up so often around the country.

And yet it's not happening at Gonzaga.

And I think that is very notable.

And I think that that is important and I think it does speak highly of the coaching staff

and the players that they recruit and the work that they do in the offseason to get this

team to play within the Gonzaga system, the Zagway and play for each other.

I think that is something they they value very intensely.

And I do believe that it will pay off for them.

As I said to Brandon in the response in the email, I said, all of this doesn't matter

as much as getting Jalen Warley healthy, like there's still certain things they need

to do in order to win these basketball games.

But I do believe that this is something that they have an advantage over many, many other

teams.

And hopefully will be something we see bear itself out in March.

Well folks, Gonzaga could not secure first place in their final WCC season.

But Lisa 48 team is in a good spot heading into the conference tournament.

We'll break that down coming up in just a second.

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And we are closing out the show giving you our final regular season update on coach

Lisa 48 in the Gonzaga women's basketball team.

They lost their final game on Saturday.

It was a depressing day in Zagville on Saturday, not only for those who are sad that the Gonzaga

is leaving the WCC, but the fact that Gonzaga left the regular season of the West Coast

conference with losses on both the men's and women's side.

And at kind of two of the most, the biggest rivals that those teams have faced in recent

years.

Obviously, Gonzaga and St. Mary's has been a rivalry for a long time, but recently, Gonzaga

and the University of Portland on the women's side has been a big time game.

And the pilots have not been as good this year in women's basketball.

They have struggled.

I think they finished seventh in the regular season.

And yet, Gonzaga could not go get a W at the child center this year.

Good year.

If you're a fan of the Portland pilots to send Gonzaga out with a couple of L's, because

Gonzaga on the women's side went and lost in overtime, 92 to 91.

That is a ridiculous score, even in overtime in a college basketball game, 92, 91.

And the Zags were down for it the half.

They outscored Portland by nine in the third quarter to take a five point lead.

UP, of course, tied it up.

And then it was a close one back and forth in overtime.

But Gonzaga ultimately falls, lose this game, 92, 91, behind a 30 spot from Lauren Whitaker.

30 points, 10 rebounds.

She was nine of 15 on two pointers, one of two from three, unbelievable what she has done

this year.

We'll talk about it more in a second.

So had a great game as well, 17 points on five of seven shooting, Taylor Smith, Weber

State Transfer Forward, average 12 points, excuse me, had 12 points, nine rebounds and

shot four of six.

But if you've been listening to these segments regularly this year, you know what I'm about

to say, turnover issues were a major problem for Gonzaga in this game.

Again, caveat being that it went into overtime.

So you expect a few more, but 26, 26 turnovers for Gonzaga in this basketball game.

UP had 17, by the way, so it was just a turnover fest, a lot of turnovers, a lot of points

in transition, a lot of opportunities to score off of those turnovers between these two

teams.

But again, Gonzaga coughing up the ball 26 times is just it's hard to win a game when

you give up the ball that many times.

They also only shot two of 12 from three, which makes it remarkable.

Six points from the three point line, 26 turnovers and Gonzaga still scored 91 in this

game.

That in and of itself is a remarkable trio of facts combined with the fact that they

gave up 92 points and lost crazy, just a crazy wild goofy game for Gonzaga to end their

tenure in the regular season as members of the West Coast Conference.

This also means that Gonzaga finishes the year 14 and four in league play.

That is the most losses Gonzaga has had under coach Lisa 48 since 2017, which was her

third year as the teams had coach seven losses the last two years because they had three

last year.

That is the same number of losses Gonzaga had in the WCC from 2018 to 2024 total.

They had in the last two years granted.

It is worth noting that a big part of that is the addition of Oregon State, not as much

Washington State, but Oregon State in the West Coast Conference the last two years is

a very good team.

This is a team that's coming off in a lead eight when they moved into the WCC.

They have clipped Gonzaga a few times that is part of the reason that their record has

been not as good in the WCC last couple of years, but it has been challenging that this

team has not been at the level that they were prior to these last couple of years and kind

of had to labor through a much tougher year this year than we expected.

At the end of the day though, 14 and four still good enough for Gonzaga to finish second

in the WCC.

The number two team outright, which means that they are the number two seed in the WCC

tournament as well.

LMU, who was like projected to finish fifth or sixth, I think in the league rattled

off a phenomenal conference late 15 and three, the Lions win the WCC and the number one

seed in the West Coast Conference tournament Gonzaga one game back at 14 and four.

Santa Clara and Oregon State both tied at 13 and five.

Santa Clara has the tie breaker so they will get the three seed in Oregon State will get

the four seed that might be good news for Gonzaga in the sense that they won't have to

face Oregon State unless they run all the way to the championship, which is possible under

Scott Ruck.

It means Gonzaga will more than likely get Santa Clara.

Gonzaga's first game will be the same day as the men's first game.

The men's first game will be 6 p.m. on Monday, March 9th.

The women's team will be at 230 that day.

They will play the winner of number three Santa Clara versus whomever advances to face

number three Santa Clara.

The options there would be number six Pacific, number seven San Francisco, number 10 St.

Mary's or number 11 San Diego, worth pointing out Gonzaga split the regular season with Santa

Clara, who's the most likely team they will face, but they swept everybody else two wins over

Pacific, two wins over St. Mary's, two wins over San Diego, excuse me, two wins over San

Francisco, two wins over San Diego, one win over St. Mary's.

So if it's anybody else, you'll feel pretty good if you're the Zags, but Santa Clara has

a different beast.

That's a good team on that side.

And so certainly a team that would give Gonzaga some challenges if they end up squaring

off against them before the WCC championship game.

I mentioned I want to say a little bit more on Lauren Whitaker.

Just wanted to highlight her numbers as she finishes up her first season in a Gonzaga

Uniformer first regular season, I should say, ended up finishing the WCC slate averaging

19.3 points per game, 10.2 rebounds, 61 percent on two pointers, 55.8 percent overall from

the field, led the WCC in every one of those categories.

She also shot a ridiculous 37 percent from three as a post player, as a low post back to

the basket score who averages double digit rebounds to also step out and shoot 37 percent

from three and oh, by the way, you can't foul her because she shoots 81 percent from

the free throw line on over five attempts per game.

Lauren Whitaker was one of the best freshmen in the country, period, top five in the country

in double doubles.

I believe one of the highest squaring freshmen in the country, like just a tremendous, tremendous

player.

And this Gonzaga team is so young.

The only senior who is honored on senior night who played this year for Gonzagos, Enez

Betancourt, only one.

They don't have very many juniors on this roster.

This team is full of sophomores, full of freshmen, really young.

The upside is tantalizing, but this year was a bit of a labor and we'll see if they can

get through the WCC tournament.

I would not put it past this team to win a pair of games and forced their way into the

NCAA tournament, but I also wouldn't be shocked if they lose the first game.

There's just a lot of variance with how this team has played this season.

Should be fun to check out how it goes on Monday afternoon.

That's going to wrap it up for me today here on the Lockdown Zags podcast, folks.

Thank you so much to those of you who have made this show your first listener watch of

the day.

Of course, a special shout out to those everyday listeners as well.

Be back with you all on Wednesday's episode, we'll likely recap the WCC award winners.

If you missed there's a bonus episode in your feed predicting who might win a player of

the year in the conference, and then of course we'll get you ready with some WCC tournament

updates as we get toward the end of the week.

Thanks again, folks.

Have a fantastic rest of your day.

And of course, as always, Gonzagos.