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Willson on Stafford's league ranking, Maye's tough performance and Darnold's injury impact

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TSN Football Analyst Luke Willson joins to discuss the Seahawks' kicking off the season with a win against the Patriots, Drake Maye's tough game, Sam Darnold's injury ripple effects for the Seahawks, the NFL Melbourne Game in the 49ers and Rams' game, International Games in the league, Matthew Stafford's ranking, Hayes and Bro's pick and more.

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Willson on Stafford's league ranking, Maye's tough performance and Darnold's injury impact

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If you smell What when Wilson is cooking Now we're too overdrive continues powered by Fandall Brian hazeo dog Jeff O'Neill Jamie noodles McClennan Al's brother still to come will sneak in some Jerry's and there's Lou quillsum professional pro athlete salute I mean you call that right Sam Darnal five snaps in would blow his hip out and you guys are I said it right before he left the airways yesterday. I said partsy I think you have so much knowledge being a former NFL tight end that you can think outside the box because you know too much But he then didn't do it yesterday my god great pick. I appreciate that parts I appreciate you having the trust in me and I'll also say I'm pretty sure I said verbatim doogie check me on this C Hawks by three yep and C Hawks one by three some people know ball. Hey some people don't go to EPA

They don't go to stats. They're not worried about who's sleeping where and when they're coming to town We just do worth straight ball knowers over here. Yeah, that's right and you and you and the baby Robin with no chirps You guys you're gonna be under the gun in game two Yeah, we are and I was brothers coming up in a few minutes big game tonight And I see West. I mean what a win by Seattle But what a loss by the pads. I mean that is a horrendous loss considering Donald's injury the penalties They had a double digit lead like I don't know how rapal possibly explains that after the game That is a horrendous choke job in my opinion. Yeah, it was funny and I touched on this on J show last night But beyond all that has just the mentality at quarterback was Atrocious Drew law came on and his post came interview and they're like hey, what was it like? You know coming in like you said obviously Sam Donald got hurt and he was like I just thought to myself

I you know take care of the football. We have a great defense here take care of the football and Things will be fine and you saw it all night. He look cool. Calm collected. It was a slog Don't I mean they were around the ball play action like this wasn't a run in gun style Offensive performance by Seattle, but he was like hey, I'm here to manage his game and let her defense dominate and on the flip side You know you look at Drake May he didn't need to do anything He just literally needed a not throwing receptions. They would have been fine Three picks late in the game one worse than the next Force and a ball to dobs force them all in third and long for no reason and then we get down here down three You've got a tie ball game and it's like no, I want to be the hero and you'll all ball up I mean it's great catching wrong with a job there, but I was surprised because generally speaking like a Vrable lead team understands the situation and for New England You're on the road against the Super Bowl champs and Seattle. I'm obviously biased, but it's one of the toughest places to play

You're about to steal one here and your quarterback decides you know, he's just gonna start Trying to become like he's Joe Montana and it's crazy off Partsy if you are the former player and you know what you know and you turned into a reporter And you are on the New England side and haste just mentioned Mike Vrable needing to explain this But if you were going into media availability who would you want to say to what the hell was going on out there Drake may or Vrable? To me, it's got to be May and you know, I listen to some of the stuff He said like he owned it and do I think the sky is falling on Drake May? Absolutely not like I want to be very clear. I'm not ready to like write the sky off But again, they're gonna have as we've talked about it length we talked about yesterday They have a much harder schedule is here and I think they can win I think they can beat anyone you know, they should have won last night But the reality is Drake may need to buy in that like hey There's games were on the road and we're playing great defenses and we might need to win this thing 13 to 10

You know or 16 13 and over time where there's other games where they're gonna need him to make those plays because for whatever reason Let's say they're playing the bills and Josh Allen's getting after him He might have to try and match Josh Allen like that. That's where I think was the disappointing part was Yes, it was starting to shift in the Seahawks favor, but if it wasn't for the turnovers I think doing them probably hangs on yeah, I totally agree. I mean the picks were they were really under thrown They're the same pick bases under thrown back foot You know completely unnecessary throws the one at the end of the game is as bad as you could ever get outrageous Absolutely horrendous decision to throw the ball furthermore He kind of ran into the rush which was unnecessary to the pocket wasn't really even collapsing until he went that direction And he completely under threw it I mean it was just all around it was a horrible decision and now you look at their schedule They've got the Steelers at home then at Jaguars at bills so like they they're in top here the next three weeks in England

Yeah, I'm I'm with you still a good team Okay, but Drake may was not very good in the playoffs horrible the Super Bowl horrible last night You know they got to prove they can they can compete with good teams. Yeah, I got to prove they can be good teams And what's tough right now if I were to put a assessment on Drake May against mediocre defenses He is awesome, you know against bad defenses. He is awesome But you talk about the playoffs and you talk about you know that the Super Bowl last night The games he struggled is against top tier defenses and it hasn't been like oh, you know this defense is good It's been like he's also been awful in those games. So Again, I'm not ready to sit here and say Drake May isn't a guy or can't be a guy or whatever But clearly against some of these higher end defenses He's got to get the mentals right because I think he has all the ability and those throws yesterday more mental errors than anything well on the flip side Put place yourself back in that room where you feel like you

Somehow escape with the win. Yeah, then you get news. Donald's gonna be okay probably missed week two They're they're playing Arizona week two. They're gonna win with true lock They played Washington week three. I don't even think he has to play in that game when they can win that ball game You've got an extra long week because it was a Wednesday Like what is the plan for the the healthy Seahawks after last night? I mean that must have been green light. Yes 101 Stay the course right now, you know try not to get too fired up But you said it you got two games that you are significantly better than both of those teams Also your division rivals who are more of the threat are across the globe right now But to punch each other in the head for three hours tonight So I look at that right now that was a big one, you know, certain one to know I think it read like invigorates the fan base Especially the way it was like that wasn't a super entertaining game, but the dramatic fashion that it kind of ended

It's get Sam healthy, but that being said like I don't I think it's a huge loss ever I'm a superball perspective not having Sam Donald But like the next again if it's two three four weeks Drew law can operate this offense and the next thing I would say is like you want to talk about getting thrown into the fire You got a new offensive coordinator that comes in without the star running back from last year Kenneth Walker and on the first drive loses his quarterback And for Florida he committed to that run game now Yes, and every time they showed him he just was chewing gum a lot lighter than Pete Carroll But just chewing gum and you know look cool calm collected the culture in Seattle really is kind of jumping off the screen for me Parts see if you had Chanahann or McVeigh sit you down and said we're going with what you say We have a game in Australia When do you want the whole operation to go there without like getting too scientific just your gut instinct?

What would be the best approach and who do you think with their two approaches has the best chance for success for me? I would like with the Rams did show up playball Like I don't want to be an australia for seven days eight days This is where it gets like it's a business trip man. First off. I don't like Australian accents. So that's a personal one Yeah, I just like parts. This is a strange one for me. I know what do you not like about the accents? You can get into that we can get into that broke your heart No, it's up there. I got you but I think this whole sleeping thing is Someone of the modern world and it's ridiculous. Okay You come in here. You're an NFL football player. It's not your job Okay, to talk about when you're showing up to a game you get a lot of people that are paid a lot of money to figure that out Your job is to be ready to go on game day and at how much and we were pampered we were unbelievably coddled

Okay, how much do we need like when does this end? Okay, you look it's like all the Niners guys are getting there eight days early So they can acclimate and blah blah blah and I'm sure it's great I'm sure all of them will be ready to go and on the flip side the Rams are on some crazy plane It's deep pressurized with lifelap beds and they're not gonna and it's like you know at one breath They talk about like football like we'll play in a parking lot But then all of a sudden this has become a national story because The Rams have their version of science and the Niners have theirs and they're probably both right but like parts This would be my thing. Let me just say this parts I know that you're Seahawks teams if there was a group tax that two in the morning from Pete that said show up at the Building we got a game everybody show up and be ready to play everybody would be the only negative thing if I got that Tax would be I wish I had my long hair that would be the only I you know, let's go Yeah, plug them up and let's go like it gets So strange in today's day and age where it's like the end of the day like I get all of the things that's going on in

They're important. I'm not saying it's not important But both teams will be ready to go on game day. They're gonna be completely coddled as all of us are They're gonna walk in there like if you're the Rams you're getting hydration you're getting food you land There's massage therapists chiropractors like the whole foam rolling stretch room You name it they got it you need something they might have a hyperbaric chamber Okay, I'm talking like they'll have everything you need to be ready on game day So I just I know it's the national story I just don't think it's that big of an ordeal both teams went a different way I personally would rather go in and out like the Rams I like what they said about not having to acclimate coming back next week But if I had to stay in Australia for eight days and suffer through that miserable accent I would do it So what happened what happened with like did you beat a guy up on the Australian accent or you got your heart broken? No, I no heart broken guys. It's just one of those things where like you ever Sometimes I'll be listening to these Australians and I'm like man. This is just a tough listen

Yeah, look what are we talking about you? It's just a hotter. Yeah exactly. Yeah, Dundee man Look out Dundee exactly look you talked about the flights regardless with it You have to get there in that these long flights. What's the what's the protocol for the guy like who gets the grub first if there's a buffet and all of that Is there rules? Where is it like offense first D first like the kickers like last as you know what what is it? What's the protocol in these big flights? Yeah, honestly, it's funny noodles because one of the things I was Envious of other sports were the flights and the reason being is with the smaller teams They would all have these like really cool planes We're like for us. And this is the vast majority of NFL teams We're flying on a normal plane. It's chartered so it's just us But we would have kind of the thing in Seattle was hey on the way there We're all in the economy section in the back now granted you get a whole road to yourself

Right and it's it's I'll be honest the way back is mayhem which is kind of wild but You know if we won the one year Pete would switch but like the coaches would sit in the first class beds on the way there and if you guys win Whatever the 15 oldest guys on the team could sit up front So it's pretty chill like you'd sit down. They got gatorades on your chair. There's snacks everywhere It's not like a whole like but like again, you're flying pretty luxurious here Not a pretty big like a hierarchy of who gets what first? I would say that the biggest thing is making sure the FDA doesn't get alerted on the way home. Yeah, probably the toughest that's important Yeah, you got to make sure the authorities are cool with everything Don't set that smoke alarm off noodles that FDA calling in can't skirt that one Like with their be guns on the plane and stuff There's been stories of that pro sports too right the one that was a bit strange was like for TSA over there Then they would come to our facility in Seattle. So on the way out

You'd go and we'd all joke around where it's like okay every like fifth person they would check It's like we don't go through security and we always joke like the person would check with like blinders on like they'd be like All right, you were the random person flagged then you're on the bus if you weren't even flagged just off straight on the bus So you know there was a time where I maybe talked to our security guy had a friend of mine Flagged and maybe put something in his bag. Okay, but the top part was they still didn't find it So I was a little upset about I thought I had a real nice prank everybody was in on it and it just kind of fell flat Just didn't didn't land. Yeah, I was tough I was brother coming up here in a few moments and I was talking to dogie like I do every day and dogie throws a lot of stuff at me different things he's reading seeing thinking and Generally I absorb it sometimes I say Sometimes I flush it sometimes I react with are you kidding me with that type of question? I had a reaction to that today, but I feel like you would see how I would do again this dogie was promoting

The idea that if Matt Stafford has a great season this year He could play himself into maybe top 10 status all time At that position at the quarterback position. I Think that's outrageous. I don't I don't I don't he is not top 10 all time. No chance I don't care. I don't care if he wins MVP and the Super Bowl. Let's let's no chance No, hey, if he wins Super on VP and Super ball. He's not top 10 quarter. How can you how can you say that? I can give you names right now just five easy. There's Peyton Tom Well, I'd say my home's Rogers breeze like this in the last 20 years though There's five that are no doubters like Brady Manning my home's Rogers breeze. I think Josh Allen's better than him You haven't even touched on the I haven't hit my can I haven't hit you know L way L way you got put L way now Way for sure. I think Brett Farves clearly a better What's that? Stinky Brett Farves a better quarterback to Matt Stafford. I love Brett Farve

I love I'm not not as recent actions. I mean Brett Farve back in the day I'm not talking about the person that's but he Brett Farves a player for sure But I'm not putting him over Matthew's three times. He's three time MVP Binda two Super Bowl's won a Super Bowl He's got he started three three hundred three games in a row man. I mean I had the Iron Man streak forever. It was incredible Where Stafford fit in for you on all this Stafford. I'm like I again, I'd have to look over Because then you get back in the day where you're talking like Johnny United's You know stop-ok, you know guys like that. I mean it's a tough combo because to me It's like if you were to ask me to name top five quarterbacks of all time Okay, and what gets weird with that conversation is And this is a bit of a hot take. I don't think it's that wild, but if we're not taking in a mount of Super Bowl wins Okay, I probably take Pete Manning as my first guy. Yep Like I don't think that's a crazy I agree with you the way he called his own offense. Yes, he thought the game

What five MVP's yeah, like I probably take Peyton one I go to Tom two But obviously if we're if we're if we're I wow If we're going you know championships all of those things you put Tom one Like there's no doubt it gets right I think there's an argument that Tom's first three. He was a great quarterback But they also had a legendary defensive side of the football And he in his next three he was the main reason they wanted I think that's if you look at the numbers thing that's a bit of a fair take Okay, so and I'm not trying to take anything away from Tom But to me that's kind of your one two you said it like I'm a bit Montana is is old for me like it's hard for me to be like oh, I'm putting Montana at three But he's better than staffer though I agree with you on that, but I'm saying like You know modern era like right. I don't I would take Montana over Josh Allen just because he hasn't won but like As far as ability goes would you take Josh like

Well, like I think let's let's just go there and guess I think Allen's a better quarterback than Stafford personally like I just think he's got more attributes and the way he can run the game run the ball the size What he does outside of the pocket I feel like you would disagree with no I it's just it's a it's a very I don't disagree But it's hard like It's kind of like the MJ Verse Jordan argument where there's so many of our angles you can look at this like I would agree where Josh's ability off schedule is way better than Matthews. I would agree obviously how much weight you put in The Josh being able to use his legs and rush and score TDs But I think from a mental standpoint Matthew is clearly ahead of him but that's not fair too Matthews played a lot more years than Josh Allen so like it's just And again, you never know, but it's like Josh came into Buffalo and has you know seemingly turned that place around

Where Matthew I would say you know Buffalo fans might push back on this, but I would say going to Detroit in the Jim Schwartz era even before that like That's a that's a blood bad. That was oh in 16 you walked into a place that has lost like every single game like you know that was talk I'll never forget this guys. I'm not joking The year before I think it was a year two years where God to Detroit They made the playoffs and had to come to Seattle week one so I want to say this was through 2016 don't quote me on that sort of maybe 2017 playoffs And I was sitting there and that was always a weird one so my boys back home were Lions fans And after that we beat them you know moved on to the next round And after that game I remember thinking to myself like looking on the field and being like man the Lions players seemed happy Like it was the only game I've been at part of where like we beat someone And I generally had the feeling that they were like oh great the season's done. We can finally get out of here. Yeah

It was My ridiculous mind ended up going there a year later thing it was gonna be some sort of major culture change Who's the real dummy here? but You know that Detroit was with the same level as the Cleveland Browns Right, so you know 100% Correct of Matthew Stafford's not there. It maybe we're having different opinion of them. I don't know. Yeah Yes That's brother. I love it The antithesis of the Cleveland Browns house brother. Do you guys think you both owe me an apology for all the negative things you said about my pick yesterday? Can we start this year off? Can we start this year off on a better know? They do yeah, they owe you an apology. Go ahead. All right noodles. Go ahead. That's brother I mean, let's be honest like The sea hawks like shot themselves in the foot the way we never expected to happen. They lost Sam Darnal that game five plays into it Was completely different if you knew Sam Darnal wasn't gonna be there

Then I never would have dug the pick. I probably would have assumed that the Patriots would have won that football game But they didn't win it and you're you lucked out because Well, if I could right now brother. That's important. You know accounts Let me ask you two guys Do you agree on this that you have the biggest layup of the century? Yeah This could I agree? No, what is that? No, I can't like it's completely different situation. It's like liquid and it's insane I don't know what we're doing with the moons and the time like did you hear Kyle shanahan trying to talk about what day It was he's like it's Wednesday, but it's Thursday and so this guy I mean, I don't know what's going on in Australia, but that guy is in an absolute blender And I do think McVeigh is gonna put him in a blender again tonight. I will say that I have a lean Okay, I got a quick one for Hayes Hayes. Do you also feel like everything that Al's bro just said about Kyle shanahan

Can be said about Al's bro. This guy's got a lot on his plate right now He's been very quiet. He's got some sort of weird armpit thing going on Okay, is there a world where the real guy in the blender is Al's bro. I just I'm not feeling the same Confidence he's already was usually the moon play is late in the year. He's a win. I know like how how much under the gun is this guy? Well, I Let's hear the man's research. He usually does his homework I don't know if you have like homework. What do you like you said you have a lean where are you getting these thoughts from? Rams three and a half that's the line locking it in right in Australia The line is down to three and a half. It's been at four all week. It's down to three and a half go ahead Al's brother I believe in you and I know you can do you know multiple things of you know multiple times You can you can walk and shoot gum at the same time sure you got a wedding coming up But you also get a season of it and there's priorities absolutely you can absolutely and I'm ready to go tonight like I I want to lay the points with the Rams I mean we've been talking about this team how good they are seem to be the greatest show on turf 2.0

I think they're coming out Melbourne and they're going to show it at the end of the day They look everyone's making this big hoopla that oh they just got there where you know the the Niners They've been there for over a week. I mean we I heard you guys talking about on the show earlier today The Rams sent people out they've been working on this for two years Two years to figure out the best time to get in there and be at utmost efficiency By game time and I think they could be ready to roll tonight and realistically the Rams have just beaten down On the San Francisco 49ers over the last couple of years They've won four of the last five games. They've covered four their last five games So this has been McVeigh's got to you know stick the last couple of years He's ready to roll against the Niners and at the end of the day I think that the Niners They're just they're just getting old they're injured and I just don't feel like they're going to be very good this season I have them tag just kind of the NFC's regression candidate like If if Christian McCaffrey doesn't go off tonight who's gonna get the ball into the end zone at the end of the day

Who is gonna get the ball to the end zone against that defense Oh man my Gavin guy missing time during camp Mike Evans are you kidding me? Yes, I'm not kidding you nope I'm I'm not kidding you Okay, well how about G'Hiddell George Kiddell's plant tonight Kiddell's plant but he's a game-packed decision How about coming off in a killies? How about a little uh coming off in a killies? How about a little rotational thing we we motion CMC out we bring Dibo into the backfield we run behind Trent Williams how about that How about that Part see these guys just understand Ball they don't understand ball No, I I'm with I'm seeing eye to eye here without his brother McVeigh has just owned Shanahan Shanahan had him sell some problems in the offseason too right like he's still a weird one that's still kind of Very strange like I was looking at my phone and never mind and something weird was going on with Shanahan and you know Whatever the travel accounts for I guess we'll find out tonight sports science nerds are gonna be loving the outcome of the game tonight

Oh, yeah, I'm also not the biggest proctorie fan in the world and it's been really quiet on him coming into a new season for a guy That has always been a question mark based on where he got picked in the draft get paid the amount of money got paid But I like I like the quarterback battle to favor the Rams Miles Garrett I think goes off tonight Lock it in else brother you make a great point everything across the board what screams lay the points Rams tonight outright Well, what faceted the game do the Niners control at this point like I think you look at offense defense coaching The line of scrimmage the run Yeah, for the Niners defensively yeah, there I mean if everyone could stay healthy, you know, it's Nick Boes of five snaps in Yeah, that's what I am with house bro where it's like the Niners are hard one to pinpoint because you say like what

Area of the game can they you know dominate on paper and they're older, but you look at Nick Boes to drake green law Fred Warner If those guys are healthy they can be electric, but that is at this point is a crazy if Like a crazy if at big time and they're well listen They're really good organization that finds a way to string it together every single year even with the amount of injuries They suffer and they've suffered a lot the last couple of years But like Shanahan on the hot seat do you see do you think that's possible or is that like a little bit extreme? I it's weird because with Shanahan and again, I do think whatever happened this off season Uh, you know, I'm sure that's not good But it's also a bit rich when like I don't think you can jam Shanahan when jade york Dude, no, I don't think the order is gonna be calling a men to reem amount The trailer park in Ohio, I have something to tell you Which is still like one of the funniest things I've ever read in my life

Crazy story. Oh, yeah, I mean you're down bad. You're down real jet was in a dark dark place Yeah, and a bad to to make things worse. He just had the worst gear on here. He had like some Yeah, like some brutal. Yeah, he had a Yankees t-shirt and like some bad sweat shorts and some bad shoes with socks It's like dude you're the own The Niners and you're wheeling around a trailer park with 20 with Lucy and yeah, Lucy from the trailer park boys $360 and 20s like it was just the weirdest thing Like it was outrage. I wish there'd be like a Netflix you like a episode of like how there has like I picture it like to hang over like there had to be a series of like 30 events that led to him being there At least that's I can't I'm going. I'm like unless it's this thing. I don't know Well, yeah, there's like there's 32 owners in the league and there's some of the owners have got themselves in some weird places

Yeah, it's got to be a depth chart of some of these guys. Yeah, totally There's a list for a AZB. There's a list for you. I'll be one. We'll see I don't know shenan's like Well, the tough part is if you lose if you move away from shenan Who do you get and he's getting scooped up so quickly he's getting scooped up and like such a good coach unless there's a Ben Johnson out there that you think you can absolutely lock in like I don't know who's gonna be better I'm with you. All right lock it in ramps three and a half house brother. I love the pick. I love where we're at We'll be tied by midnight tonight, which will be just past one PM in Melbourne, Australia Good stuff boys. We'll do it again tomorrow with more picks and then next week is always great scene you guys See you boys. There he is. How's brother and Luke Wilson joining us The music you love Your favorite radio stations The podcast everyone's talking about all in one place and it's free

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