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The historic fourth quarter collapse for Minnesota, and then an even more historic comeback to

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The Timberwolves went to overtime against the Rockets yesterday and then let Houston

score the first 13 points of the extra period.

That would mean the game is over on any other night, but instead Minnesota made the biggest

comeback in NBA over time history and ended the game on a 150 run.

Then Beacon goes over a thriller of a finish unlocked on wolves.

We have to start with the way that this game ended and like just a historic fourth quarter

collapse for Minnesota and then and even more historic comeback to win, capping it all

off with the, you know, just an incredible 90 plus percent three point shooter Kevin

Missing a free throw that was part of a pair that could have sent the game to double

overtime.

There's so much to unpack here, but we have to start with what the Timberwolves did.

I guess, I guess it's related, right?

We have to talk about the end of fourth quarter, the end of the fourth quarter and then

also overtime setting the stage in this game.

No Anthony Edwards, of course, missed his fifth strike game with the knee injury.

No, I had to assume missing his first game with a new injury, a calf injury.

He was questionable coming in.

Neither of those guys play.

Mike Conley, who hasn't, he's played in two games in the month of March.

He's played a small handful of times since being reacquired by Minnesota.

He started this game.

In the fourth quarter, Rudy Gobert, we'll talk about how well he played in this game

because he was great.

Rudy Gobert files out toward the end of regulation.

A dubious call, we'll get into that in a second.

A dubious call Gobert files out.

Then in the, in overtime, after a challenge from Minnesota does not get overturned, which

I thought was a bad non overturn.

That was a bad call in the first place.

Don't know how it wasn't overturned.

Noz read apparently just says he's moving regarding Shenguin, who is called, who is not

called for a defensive foul and gets ejected.

A one technical ejection from, of course, Scott Foster, the, the official.

So now, noz read is gone.

Jayden McDaniel's left toward the end of the fourth quarter.

He had an incredible game.

We're going to talk a lot of Jayden today, but he appeared to get injured

perhaps fighting through screen.

Maybe he caught a little, an elbow, not a little, an elbow from Kevin Durant to the thigh.

I'm speculating, but it looked, he was, you know, limping, came off the floor and missed

the end of the game.

So the closing lineup for the Timberwolves included TJ Shannon, who hadn't played all game

and he played the final two minutes in place of Mike Conley out there with Dante,

Deven Shinzo, Julius Randall, Kyle Henderson, and Bones Island.

I promise you, there's not a person on this earth that, like, what would the odds

have been of picking the closing lineup for a game against the Houston Rockets in late

March?

At any point this season, if I would have told you this morning, or Thursday morning,

whatever day it is to Wednesday morning, it's, you know, Wednesday morning, you know,

what are the odds on this closing lineup?

You just said what?

Plus 5,000?

Like, I mean, it's just an insane combination of players, like TJ Shannon's not in the

rotation.

Mike Conley's not in the rotation.

Okay, here we are.

That's who closed the game.

This whole game was crazy.

And we're going to get into all the stuff I want to talk about the individual performances

Julius Randall was great down the stretch.

He wasn't great all game, but he was great down the stretch.

Jay and McDaniels was great all game, big, critical, bare moments.

But the close to regulation was when the wolves collapsed.

And I think we, I think we have to start there and then get into what happened in overtime,

which was, of course, the, the, the reverse of that, if you will, just a completely flipping

everything on its head.

And this was an intact rocket steam, right, like they, they, they, some, like a lot of

guys played really well for Houston too.

I mean, this was just a fun game.

And look, I saw a lot of commentary on my, on, on X about like, oh, this game is sitting

off.

It's back.

Look, the offense wasn't great, but the competitiveness, the physicality, the clutch

shot making, there were some clutch shots on both sides, right, like threes from Durant

and Reed Shepherd and Dante, David Chinzo on the wolf side and Conley hit a big three

and over time that kind of started this run for Minnesota.

I, I thought this was a really fun watch.

Sometimes it's good defense.

Sometimes it's bad offense.

And sometimes it's a little bit of both.

And it's just entertaining.

And that's what we had in this game.

Minnesota was up toward the end of this game by, let's see, they were up by double digits.

They're up nine with six minutes to play.

They were up, actually 10 with six minutes to play Houston starts to, or no, I'm sorry,

they were up after that.

They're up 11 with 347 left after a G and McDaniel's dunk, okay, 11 with 347 to play.

Houston finishes regulation with a 13 to two run, okay, 13 to two run at the end of

regulation.

And it looks like Houston's gonna, gonna, you know, put this thing away down the stretch.

This one really go bare files out.

So it's a side out, Houston's got the ball down one.

Go Bear gets called for a foul again, Shenguin.

Both players locked up.

It looked like Shenguin hooked Go Bear first and then tried to hold him and Go Bear tried

to basically swim, move around him and elbowed him in the head and it was a foul.

It should have been a foul on Shenguin first.

I understand why it was a foul and Go Bear.

What made it worse was Shenguin's acting and selling and I get it.

It's a big moment in the game and sometimes that, you know, you win doing that.

Well, Shenguin didn't win the game though, did he?

He won that battle.

He didn't win the war.

Shenguin got the foul call and Go Bear and of course, because it was before the ball

was inbounded, the rockets got one shot and the ball and Go Bear filed out.

I thought it was a bad call.

I thought it should have been a no call.

The only reason they called it is because Shenguin felt to his knees like somebody, you

know, kicked him in the back of the knees, you know, you did that to your friends in middle

school or whatever, like you hit him in the back of the knee and they fall.

That's what it looked like and it was ridiculous.

But Durant makes the free throw because it was before the inbound and then the rockets

have the ball in a tie game.

They don't score actually not as reinventing makes an incredible defensive play and the

Timberlitz get the ball going back the other way in the open floor.

Chris Finch finishes regulation with the time out in his pocket.

I get why he didn't call it there.

I feel like he because broken four situation you had numbers.

He should have called it earlier as the wolves were collapsing.

I think in maybe at that point, he was thinking, well, I'll save it in case we get an end

of game possession with the chance to drop a play.

I kind of get that, but he should have used it in the broken floor situation though.

Randall takes it to the basket.

I understand that decision to I didn't understand a lot of what Julius Randall was doing for

the first three plus quarters of this game.

But I get what he was doing here.

He doesn't get the foul call at the buzzer and shingoon gets a crazy block hits his face

on the floor like his lip looks like it's like shredded.

He's bleeding.

Tie game goes over time.

Incredible sequence at the end of the game.

I thought the call and go bear it's rough like that's a really and that was shortly

after a go bear made an incredible defensive play in Kevin Durant getting shaken out of

his shoes.

Encles are broken laying on the floor.

His ankles not not figuratively speaking go bear didn't fall over, but he recovered and

got a crazy block because he's long and an incredible defender on Durant just just

right before he filed out of the game just a crazy play a ton of fun at the close of regulation.

But obviously the rockets have some momentum because of that comeback.

So then what happens after the 13 to run to close the fourth quarter.

The rockets start over time with a 13 to nothing run.

Read Shepherd makes a three pointer off of an offensive rebound, which is of course

what Houston does extremely well and the wolves struggle with defensive rebounding.

And then Kyle Anderson gets swatted by shingoon Durant comes down and gets a dunk.

It's five points.

Read gets called for this is where things fall apart.

It's now a five point game five point game.

Buzz read goes into the chest of shingoon gets called for an offensive foul.

It was a flop because shingoon never he snapped his head back.

Read never came close to touching shingoon's head or neck or anything.

There's a little bit of contact to the chest, but the flyback from shingoon was absolutely

an attempt at trying to sell that he got hit in the face.

And I thought he was moving into the space of nose read, right?

So a bad call and you're thinking, all right, it'll get overturned upon a challenge,

right?

It doesn't.

Noz read turns around and I he said something first, but it's I'm not a professional

liberator, but I'm pretty good at it.

I don't think he cursed at all.

Then he said he's moving and just kind of shrugged his shoulders.

Scott Foster rabbit ears whips around to T ejects him on one technical possible that

now said something else and was talking to and to have wandered on to the court and

street clothes talking to somebody in the huddle talking to a coach, but I don't think

he said anything that was ejection worthy.

And if all if if he was ejected for saying he's moving, and recording this before there's

any sort of pool report or question is Scott Foster or whoever, I'm sure it will be Scott

Foster who does the pool report after the game.

Then it's absolute just a joke, malpractice, whatever you want to call it.

You don't eject somebody for saying the words, he's moving, it's just unbelievable.

Now maybe there was something else, sure didn't seem like it, but noz reads ejected.

It completely just feels like everything's falling apart.

Jane McDale says already left with an injury, I mentioned that off the top.

So now you've got no ant, no disoom, no Rudy, no jaden, no noz reads five of your top.

What is that?

Five of your top seven.

You've got Julius Randall Dante, the even chenzo are the only normal starters remaining.

And then you've got Kyle Anderson, you know, bones highland and calmly, like that's it.

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The Celtics faced off against the Thunder last night and snapped O.K.C.'s 12 game win streak

in Boston.

John Corralis reports post-game from the hardwood to give you the recap.

This was a win that they needed.

I think a lot of us just came into this game assuming, hey, look, Celtics are going

to just be in third place after this.

And obviously, you're going up against Oklahoma City Thunder, defending champs who look

great.

They got their whole team back, which might have hurt more than helped tonight, but not

unreasonable to think the Celtics would have lost to the Thunder, but it's losing to

the Thunder.

But also, Celtics really wanted this one.

Jaylen Brown was on his live stream on Twitch talking about how much he really wanted this.

After the last couple of games, the win in Memphis that didn't feel like a win.

It felt like kind of like a tough, ugly game that you're one because it was Memphis.

And then the game against Minnesota that everybody seemed to really react to dare I say over

react to.

And then New York winning, tying the Celtics five games back.

And now Celtics playing OK, see everybody's like, oh, here we go.

Here we go.

Here it comes.

Nope.

Celtics came out tough first quarter, tough first quarter for everybody.

Jaylen missed everything in the first quarter.

He was 0 for 5 in the first quarter.

Jaylen had two bad turnovers in the first quarter and it was, it didn't look great.

My reaction in the first quarter was that everything that OK, see was doing looked fluid

and smooth and everything the Celtics were doing looked a little kind of clunky.

Now that obviously could have been a lot of the mishots.

They got a lot of open, like Sam Hauser had four, three pointers in the first few minutes

and he hit one.

It was just this game really could have been a little bit different.

Who knows how the flow of the game would have gone.

But if he had hit the first, his first three or four, if you just gone on a heater right

away, he had wide, wide open looks, things could have been much different.

As it was, the Celtics went down by 11 in the first quarter and I just thought, OK, this might be a tough one.

But they turned it around, they fought back, they won that second quarter.

They played great in the third and the fourth.

They built the lead as high as 14 in the fourth quarter and they held on to win.

The, it's just a regular season game, right?

So after the game, everybody was like, it just counts for one, got to do it again on Friday,

all of the stuff that you're supposed to say.

The same time when you've had a couple of tough performances and all the noise around the team is negative.

To come out against a team like OKC, which it would have been great.

All these games that get flexed into national TV games would have been great to put this one on national TV.

I guess OKC is, has maxed out its, its number of national TV games.

But this would have been a great statement to make on national TV.

Either way, it's going to be something that leads a lot of the sports talk shows.

Well, when they talk about the NBA at the very least and Boston played great.

Jalen was great, Jason was great after their slow starts.

The bench comes in, Shireman, Ugo for a little stretch, Peyton.

All of these guys come in and play really, really well.

The Thunder built out a big lead and the Celtics just didn't wilt under that.

They made the Thunder kind of, they played with force.

They played their own brand of basketball, right?

Jalen was talking after the game about

how we started our offense, where we wanted to start the offense,

not where they wanted us to start the offense.

We got the shots we wanted, not the shots they wanted us to take.

And that's important, right?

There's any sort of matchup, any sort of flight.

There's always somebody who dictates the pace.

And the Celtics were able to dictate a lot of that,

especially from the second quarter on.

So to put that performance out there for everybody to see

is just a nice message to everybody, right?

A message to the whole league that, listen,

you want to talk about the Celtics not doing well against elite teams?

Well, here you go.

What more elite team can you want than the Oklahoma City Thunder?

Well, everybody, they've got everybody.

What more elite team can you want?

Celtics come out and put this performance out there.

They don't give in to early struggles.

They hang with it, they stick with it,

they do the things they're supposed to do, and they win.

So now the narrative shifts.

It is too much of this, you know,

narrative is blowing in the wind, right?

The Celtics lose a game or they look bad as,

oh, here we go.

Not enough time for them to get it together.

Then they look good and it's, hey,

well, maybe they are the favorites after all.

Really important win to get because the Detroit Pistons lost.

And the Celtics are able to, I should even say it that way

because I'm not even looking at that top seat anymore.

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But they didn't fall behind the nicks.

They were half game up on the nicks now.

So they've matched them in wins.

They're a game up in the lost column.

It's just when you're a game up in the lost column,

all you got to do is win, right?

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and you're going to be fine.

So just all around statement.

You want to call it a statement game.

You want to call it a feel good kind of game.

However you want to classify it, I think Celtics fans

really feel good about this game.

This arena was buzzing.

Shagel just Alexander said it after the game.

Anytime you play Boston, it feels like a playoff game.

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Celtics fans, you get some weird, not weird moments,

but unique moments in this building sometimes,

where the Celtics were building a lead.

It was in the fourth quarter.

There was plenty of time left, but the fans felt maybe

with five, six minutes to go.

They were feeling the momentum.

They knew that the Celtics had this right there for the taking.

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They were getting up on their feet.

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that early on, the place was really, really loud.

When the Celtics came back and tied the game in the second quarter,

the building just exploded.

Louder here than you would find in a lot of arenas.

This being in Boston for that, having that atmosphere,

putting on the show, the Celtics did, getting this kind of win.

You can say it's one of 82, but it's not.

It's really not.

This is a win that makes you feel good.

This is a win.

Now, when Jalen Brown goes home, throws the keys on the table

and sits on his couch, maybe with a glass of wine,

he just let out a little exhale.

He's like, that was satisfying.

It's just a satisfying win.

You need to have those feelings every once in a while.

You need to have that feeling.

You need to be able to go home from a tough day at work

and be like, you know what?

I did good today.

We did good today.

We needed this day.

We got it.

And we feel great about where we are.

Knowing that there's room for improvement,

knowing that Jason Tatum still has ups and downs.

The efficiency isn't there yet.

And I'll get to him in a minute.

But the win, the way you win, just that kind of feel good.

It's what carries you through these last few weeks

and gives you that little bit of hope that you need

to make that little bit of a run.

Just, you know, you feel good about going to shoot around

the next day.

You feel good about walking into that film session.

The next day, because even your mistakes,

when you win a game like this and you do so many good things,

even your mistakes, you sit there and be like,

yep, yep, I feel it.

I gotcha, I'm gonna work on those.

Whereas when you lose, you go in there

and you see your mistakes, you're like,

I can't believe, I did that.

I cost us, right?

That little bit of a mentality difference

is the difference between wanting to go out there

and put in 100% in that little bit of a dragging your feet.

Man, I can't believe it.

Just that you don't want those negative thoughts.

You don't want those negative vibes.

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The hawks clinched a spot in the post season last night

and had to earn it, taking down the pistons

in an overtime battle in Detroit.

Brad Roland tells you how it landed, did it,

unlocked on hawks.

In the process of this victory,

they avoid a season serious sweep against the pistons.

They have been 0 and 3 coming in to this one.

And while this is already going to be the case,

it's now official.

The hawks have clinched a play in spot, at least.

And they have clinched a 500 record or better

with 41 wins already as of late March.

So lots of positives.

The hawks had an interesting game along the way here.

We'll talk about quite a bit.

Joe and Johnson did a return after two game absence.

That's encouraging with the shoulder issue.

I asked Joe in post game.

There was any health issues at all.

He said, no, he said he felt good.

That's positive.

Obviously, Kate Cuttingham out for the pistons,

which certainly got a lot of attention.

And right with so, Kate has been a great,

kind of all NBA player this year.

He didn't play, nor did Isaiah Stewart.

But the hawks were still,

according to our friends at Fandall Sportsbook,

a two and a half point underdog on the road in Detroit.

So I've already seen people downplaying this win

because of Kate not playing.

I understand.

But even without Kate, this year,

Detroit was eight and two coming in the night.

And this is a road win against a playoff level team.

And I'm one seeding the entire Eastern Conference right now.

And the hawks run dogs are tip off

and they've played well enough to get it across the line.

So if you didn't watch this one,

I will get into a lot more detail later on.

But the hawks are up by 21 points in the first half

and up by 18 points at half time.

The third quarter was pretty much a disaster for Atlanta.

They gave the entirely back in like six minutes.

But they managed to stay afloat and win it anyway,

which for me is a huge takeaway from this game.

I talked to Jock Landill,

along with one of the AJC post game.

I know Jock was really interesting post game,

talking about how the hawks almost need one of these,

kind of tough, close spot victories.

A lot can be said on the positive direction

about the hawks beating up and beating up on everyone

the last month plus, lots of blowout wins,

not a ton of like close fought, you know,

crunch time situations.

But Jock pointed back to how they kind of fractured

against Houston and their one loss during this run

on the road.

And there were signs of that maybe happening tonight

when they kind of imploded in the third quarter,

but they held it together.

And that's a sign of a mature team.

Like you're gonna have some bad stretches, obviously,

but multiple players, multiple coaches, et cetera.

It talks about how this game could be kind of

a growth moment for the team.

And you love to learn in a win.

And I think the hawks almost blew this game

and that would have been unfortunate.

But in the end, it's a quality win

over a quality opponent on the road.

And they kind of had to have an extra period to do it.

It was an overtime game.

A lot to get to from this one.

But the top line thought for me is that

the hawks found a way to win.

And that's not always easy to do.

It's not always pretty sometimes,

but the hawks made enough plays defensively

at the end of the game, offensively late regulation, et cetera,

to emerge victorious.

I would say it was encouraging on both ends of the floor

at times and also maddening both ends of the floor at times.

I'll start with the offense in this game.

Then a 118 offensive rating on the road against the pistons.

That's very, very good.

Like K being out doesn't like kill their off,

I mean, sorry, cause their offense a little bit.

Defensively, they are really good with or without K.

So the hawks scoring at that level

on the road against Detroit is pretty impressive.

And honestly, it was pretty much all positive

other than the one glaring aspect of ball security,

which almost lost in the hawks this game in some ways.

So on the positive side,

they shot 6% inside the arc in this game.

And it's had to 52 to 3.0 tips.

That's a lot of, a lot of threes in the hawks do like that.

Generally speaking, most of those,

we also have pretty good looks, I thought.

If you watch the film back,

a lot of quality shots along the way.

There's some four shots as well.

You kind of have to have that many,

but I actually asked Quinn the pregame

by the Killings and her Walker.

And you know that the hawks have some guys on this team

including the Keele.

I think CJ's part of this, even Jalen,

where like even a contested shot can be a good shot.

And the hawks did take some good ones along the way.

They had their typically strong 31 assists in this game.

And they had a absolutely great offensive rebounding game.

Dyson Daniels was absolutely everywhere.

He had a career high with eight offensive rebounds

from a guard that doesn't happen.

That's a crazy number.

And the team had 18,

which is one less than the hawks season high on the glass.

They were really flying around extra chances

that kind of led to the hawks getting the extra

kind of win on the margins in this game.

They had decent balance as well.

Fortress 13 points or more.

Three guys, 21 points or more like really good

top-end stuff on offense.

The problem, which was very obvious

if you watch this game back, was the ball security.

So I asked Quinn about that during a post game.

He kind of said like sometimes they got overwhelmed.

There were some bad ones,

but they weren't like unforced.

There were some careless moments for sure,

but they had 20 turnovers that led directly

to 31 points.

And that almost bit them in this game.

Detroit kind of relies on turnover creation.

And that's part of what this is not a disaster to me

is that Detroit literally is number one in the league

in turnover creation on offense.

I saw my defense.

So not a huge surprise.

They also have some ball security issues in this game.

That was a point of friction coming in.

I thought it was on the show last night.

The hawks are going to have to take her to the ball.

Well, they didn't, and they managed to win.

But I will say they did not commit

a single turnover over time,

which was definitely helpful.

It was getting shots of the rim can be a big thing.

So I would say my overall grade for the offense

was a positive one for sure,

with the one exception of the turnovers,

which were far too many along the way.

And basically everyone that's a key figure

for the hawks had some turnovers in this one,

four for Dyson, four for McCollum, five for Jalen,

two for Kaminga, et cetera, et cetera.

So it was not just one player.

It was not just one unit.

They had some issues throughout the entire way,

but didn't bite them in the end.

On defense, this is the craziest stat of the night for me.

So the hawks had a 118-ish defensive rating in this game.

That's not good overall.

Against a cadeless, pissed-in team,

the hawks should be able to do better than that,

and I think they probably know that.

In fact, I know they do that.

I have to talk to those guys post-game.

But they also were good defensively

for large stretches of this game.

The second quarter, the fourth quarter, over time.

They had good numbers and a good process stuff along the way.

The craziest thing is the hawks had this

incredibly dominant starting lineup

that's been killing everyone for six weeks now.

And yes, I've raised some concerns

that some of the stuff on the margins

is a little bit unsustainable with that group.

Like, for example, McCollum's defensive numbers

are not necessarily, because he's not a good defender,

necessarily, anyway.

They've been destroying everyone with the starters

for a long time.

In this game, the starting five was minus 10 in 15 minutes

in a game, the hawks won.

That's surprising, because this entire time,

they've been really riding that lineup.

They had a 166.7 defensive rating with the starters.

166, and the hawks still won the game.

The hawks could not stop anyone with the starters in this game.

And they still won it anyway.

That's the craziest step.

So, in short shot the ball, well, it's on the arc.

The hawks did a good job actually running them

off the point line.

They don't only have a lot of shooters.

It's Duncan Robinson, it's kind of the only one.

He was five of 10, but they did make life

difficult on Dennis Jenkins, on Kerasliver,

old friend Kevin Hearder, et cetera.

And that was a good defensive effort,

I thought, for the most part, for the hawks on the glass.

They were actually okay.

There were some costly ones, I will say,

in the fourth quarter and over time,

but they did hold Detroit too.

Basically, it sees an average on the opposite glass,

which honestly, given a clungless foul trouble,

given the size that Detroit has,

is a pretty reasonable result.

It wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either.

And they only allowed 19 free throw attempts

in an overtime game.

That's very good.

They did lose the turnover battle.

Usually, the hawks do a lot better,

as most teams would, when they win on the turnover battle,

but they didn't in this game.

And this is a lot of assists.

But I think there's something to be said

in a positive direction for the way

that the hawks played defense in the fourth quarter

in an overtime, executing.

And even like, the biggest shot of the game for Detroit

was this jumper by Tobias Harris at the end of regulation.

It wasn't like, probably defended.

It was, there was a guy there.

So given the issues the hawks had throughout the game,

I don't think it was a positive defensive game on the whole,

but there's something to be found there

if you want to find it, that the hawks did okay

on the margins, even if the overall results

basically were all because of the how bad the first quarter

and the third quarter were in this game.

And that's a big truck of the game.

I'm not hand waving that, but it wasn't ideal,

but they weren't able to hold up in key moments.

And look, zooming out before we move on

to the rest of the podcast

and some more granular details and analysis,

this is the best win of the run for the hawks.

Now, don't hear what I'm not saying.

It was not the most dominant win.

They didn't play the best that they played in this run

by any means, but they'd be a good team on the road.

I think, pretty clearly, I would rather play Orlando

at home without Franz at the company

that the way the hawks did a couple weeks ago

than I would want to play Detroit on the road without Kate.

This is the best team the hawks have seen,

especially when you throw in the venue being on the road.

So this is their best win of this run

and they played through adversity to do it.

Now, they created some adversity to themselves.

They were really, really, really good in the first half.

Give it all back, but they didn't crack, they held in.

And for me, this is like a playoff of the atmosphere.

It was a big time game, national TV, lively crowd.

There's a fun one to be at, fun one to cover.

But for me, it's like, hey, the hawks just found a way to win.

And that can be overstated.

I do like to give everyone the actual context

of what happened on the court.

I don't like to do the whole narrative thing.

And it's kind of narrativey, I understand that.

But the hawks really did find a way,

like they almost blew it in the regulation.

They had some trouble over time,

but they got it over the line.

And because of that, they have now improved.

Once again, to 14 wins in the last 15 games

and 41 for the season.

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