Wondery's New Heights Acquisition; and Mignon Fogarty's 18th year in podcasting

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Wondery has bought New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce. Sam and James look at the deal and wonder how much of it is Taylor Swift related... plus we hear from someone celebrating her 18th year in podcasting: Grammar Girl's Mignon Fogarty. Find out how podcasting has changed and whether video is a good thing really.

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