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korea shop Charlemagne how you feeling I feel good how you feeling I'm blessed

black and highly favored I'm happy to see I'm gonna want to argue with you for

so long I don't want to argue you know I always say you one of my favorite I

appreciate you I really look up to you I really do like I just feel like you are

a a straight forward person and you tell a how it is and it comes from a

church face I appreciate like you're gonna say how you feel and that's just what

it is it ain't it ain't cuz you feel a way like if you like you like if you

don't you know absolutely I respect that I respect you to you know I fuck with

you but I heard you say that you what you say you said that a man needs a

network of a hundred million dollars oh my gosh thank you you

I know you married the stuff I'm just saying do you work to that point you know

how good you feel I don't know what you're talking about okay I'm just

you know less than one thousand of one percent of people reach that type of

network I know and I mean you are hard working me and if you got to him and I

want me a hard working man what does it have to be you didn't mean a hundred

though I didn't mean it literally okay but I would love for him to have at least

but they don't mean nothing money for me everything you know but I'm just saying

I I know I said a lot of shit could you but I did mean it though you could you

date a regular dude though like this you down in Miami do work at FedEx you know

benefit god damn and not even just that I just I like what I like I just I think

that I'm like you know I'm into nice things and I send a man that work a job can't

give me nice things but I think I want to date somebody that's like in the same

caliber of me absolutely I understand yeah now what happened to the

Croatia police podcast you know everybody loved the podcast you were supposed to

be the next black Oprah you said you said it is the next black Oprah

already black no but I'm like the you know how like a person is like black

but they like black black over black I'm saying like it's like the hood okay

let me let me let me not I mean the hood like it's gonna be like Oprah but on

the hood level and um Croatia police you know I spoke to you about it I'm just

trying to find a right home the right partner to come back for season three oh

we love to have you on black thread but but are you we need you to be consistent

though like I often what you want to do it I think when me being an artist

realistically and I honestly think it's a flow of things and how you do things I

think for me Croatia police work because people wanted it it was like I want more

I want more and on top of having a podcast I still got to be an artist I still

got to release music so you don't want to just see too much of me because it's like

they got to see them they got to have a music and then they go into the

podcast I would love to be consistent but I also think that's what worked for me I

love the flow of it I love that you said that you think artists nowadays are too

overexposed yes and I think we feel like we know them too much like

superstars but then you just knew them as Michael Jackson or a performer now we know

what happened with your baby daddy we could hit the police um reports we could

get an hour walk out it's just too much that it kind of needs like child that's

this person you know that's that person you don't give the son every status

because it's too it's too accessible did you ever feel like you were too overexposed?

I do I think when people know too much of your personal life it just make them feel like

they know you on a on a personal level when it's not supposed to be like that so yeah I do

so I mean I know you had the BET reality show that you were filming did you take a step

back from that because you felt like you were too overexposed?

going into it I was excited but I'm like oh my god I'm gonna have a reality show but I think

once I got into it it's not really reality like it stage it stage reality and I'm the type of

person I want everything real wrong I don't want to go go back and do it again because I can't go

back and do that again like that's just what it was and I think that it became too much of that

that it didn't feel real and I was just like I don't like this because they take certain sound

bites and it become a whole story that's not kind of like what you sound up for

so I had to take a step back and was like if I'm gonna do something like that I want to do it

on my own I feel like you've been trying to find a space to be comfortable to really just express

yourself yeah because I think that I am a real raw authentic person and I'm not strategic

like I'm just show up at me and whatever you get is that's me that will be your experience

of me and I think that the world now like the world that we live in now you got to just

you got to just move a certain way and just just be so polished and it's not fun and I think that

I can't I can't I can't live and be creative in a space like that like I can't be my best self if I

have to be strategic or I got to move this way I can't do this and I can't say that it's not fun

I feel like though you know when you see people like like Cardi for example Cardi's always

her self I feel like she she made it to where you can be yourself if you're not afraid to be

yourself I think sometimes people be afraid to be themselves because they're afraid of the backlash

I get crucified for being myself like I can't say anything in ages when it comes to

starting people they take it a certain way it's like if this person said but when I say we

all I'm saying the same shit but when I said it's just like well that like I just say you know I

think it's I can't explain it but I feel like I be myself I'm myself I'm not I'm not never like

yeah I say a lot of shit I do a lot that's me just being myself like I like to go like I have

had fun that that's that was another thing that people loved about me my personality going on

like I said 10 and just getting on there we just talking shit about each other that's us in

our natural form some people understand that some people don't some people like that can never

be my friend this that's our friend group that's how we have fun but it's all love we understand each other

yeah I don't think people dislike you like they act like they do on social media I think that you

give them a response and when you give somebody a response they keep messing with you just to get a

response yeah I bet you sometimes you'd be hitting people and they'd be like I just wanted you to

reply no I was like oh my god bitch fuck you like why you fuck with me I'm cool like I'm really

a cool person I'm a human like I'm a great I feel like I'm a great human like I am a

genuine person if I don't like you I ain't even come here if I fuck with you I fuck with you but

and I'm just I'm literally like I come from nothing so people have to understand like this is how

it's brought up I it's still a room to grow and I still got a you know grow I still have a lot to

learn but it's like I'm learning as I grow and I just think that it's like from my upbringing like

I literally grew up in Opalaka in the projects like I go over there I just did my music video

news flash there and I'm just like I get it people walking around like they don't dress up it's

burning it's like like how you wake up it's how you going outside you know it's not like it's just

they in the hood how do you think you made it up I think I was always destined to be who I am

because I always just had a personality and even if I grew up in the hood my mom dated

man with money like her man she dated they took care of her they made sure her kids were straight so

she always tried to provide the best life she can and she was like also popular she was like a booster

and she just was like a booster yeah she's probably had all the old time thing because they

kind of eat a bottle of shit yeah yeah yeah what's your clothes or appliances close okay so try

me on finger polo yeah got you on it so you know just just seeing that and just seeing her make

away it's just yeah are you scared right now scared of what because you out here solo now I love it

okay I love it I think that it's a new era for me I feel like from the time I came out it always

been these people saw me they learned me as the city girls I was going through the stuff with my

mom my mom when the prison I was raising her kids I always was like holding something down I never

really got a chance to like pouring to me or just be the best version of myself or really a joy

because I was always holding something down or had to work you know extra hard like my mom

went to prison I had to take her her kids so this the group break up JT go to prison then she

come out we go through all of this stuff that we going through so like now I'm just like yes like

I get a chance to be creative I get a chance that just make my own decisions I get a chance to

just be free like and I also learn so much from the group and just I know more of the business like

you know so I just feel good like I feel happy I feel like I'm ready I'm not scared I'm ready

so so who is young Miami without the city girls without celebrity relationships without the headlines

no your Miami is that you are all that yeah that's your Miami okay I mean that's

what's the start of my career and that's everything I went through that's shaped me as your Miami

I felt like I can't run away from it I can't run away from your Miami of the city girls I can't

run away from your Miami that went through that y'all saw me every face of my life yeah I want to

continue to see me in my new era so are you trying to show people more of the of all young Miami

or just the real creation both because I have you Bob I think the last time I came out of

the breakfast club I probably was like in my 20s I'm 30 now so I do look at like different I do see

things differently I do want to move different like sometimes I'm like thank you like even though I

love it I'd be like we're not being looking back at it like sometimes you have a like this is

a real thing you go to the club you draw you look at your story you wake up and you delete all

that shit so that's sometimes I feel like I look at somebody like it's wrong from improvement

there you know like you got to clean up at some point you got to get these brands the one of you

know like yeah we love real here we love authentic but you got to show some era of growth

or elevation or you people going to catch with you in you ain't showing off the new one

but on this new album you still giving them classic young Miami you still out here you know

you still out for this mean yeah you still out for this mean you still got to have your hand out okay

you still we still got to have you can build your own you doing that juice no of course of course

of course but I do feel like me and should be some type of support or that's what I that's the

message I'll be trying to get through I just feel like I feel like some time in and I say this

a lot because I don't and that's why I'll be like I want me on a hundred million dollars a lot of

me and she's see a pretty face see a pretty body and for them it's like this is another picture of my

roster like they be building rosters like a lot of men are mature in mind and you have to be as a

woman you have to be you got to know what you want and like you got to know what you want I know what

I want so if I know that we're going to have sex we're going to have sex but you have to do

something for me and it's not prostitution it's not it's just I'm a woman like you got to add

violence to me and sometimes I got to lead this relationship situation shit with something because

if not we fuck when we in our teens that's something you're doing your 20s I'm 30 now no I

listen I feel like a man's job is to protect and provide I understand the logic I'm just saying

bring the number down a hundred million well shot away that's wrong man I'm trying to go up

yeah this is I want to vacation I got kids like I'm trying to live my best life life is you know life

life is weird these days like I just want to live my best life for I can't you know I just feel

like that's what I want at this point you're not afraid to talk about your roster though I heard

courageous tales we flipped the two short joint freaky tales what made you want to want to do that

I think it's hip-hop when I listen to like records like that like look him even Nicki Minaj is just

coming up as a new artist I want to have that impact like when people go like people that are

your main fans like who I know she did that too short and she flipped it like this like that's

what it's for me I'm only going to assume that everybody on the record is real because one

line is definitely real so I'm just going to assume everybody on the record is some truth

okay why do women like the shame men for eating bonquido because on freaky tales you say lame

goofy ass nigga always trying to eat bitch booty ass nigga why are you shaming men for that you

must be eat booty shot away I'm from South Carolina I'm from the South I mean that's a grown man's

work that is a grown man's but why shame men for I'm not now I want to just saying like because

it's like I got two homes why do you want to eat the one that's in the back

what are you doing both appetizing on tray on tray appetizer whatever you want to

it's not a shame too but it's like you always want to eat the back when it's when the front

it's kind of like okay no no no no fit to me they do it I shall see you see I like when I hear

women talk like that because you get to see what women really think so when guys be trying to

do that y'all be talking shit about I'm just not like I don't like that whole bed that'll be

wet like I just feel weird so it's not my preference they like we all got

perfect and I just don't like that okay hold me in with all right let's stay on freaky tales you say

you name a bunch of men and you say my billionaire nigga that stay on an island used to tell me

take that take that while he fucked me five hours now we know who that is that's ditty and light

of everything that is transpired why weren't you afraid to still say that because I think that

I should be able to be I should be able to express myself I should be able to say my life

experiences I don't feel like I should be silent so I can't speak on anything or I should be

scared because I just was in a relationship with somebody and what we had was in a crime or was

wrong so it's like I'm express myself it's music it's my music it's my time to tell my story and

I want to have fun and I'm gonna do that when when someone you know you were connected to become

the center of serious allegations and legal issues how do you reconcile the person you knew

with the headlines everybody else I think in life you always get put in something or a situation where

you got to you know you got to make a life decision or you got to look back and say like

what what makes sense for me right now you know like I can love this person but I can love this

person from a distance or no I can have a relationship with this person but maybe I got to come back

to it like maybe I got to come back around and I think that that was one of those situations

you you wrote a letter about your foot Diddy's character and a lot of people were a second

they was like you know how could she do that after seeing the video with Cassie a lot of people

wanted to know why you decided to still write that letter I think I wrote it up for a change

I think that the man that I met and that I experienced was changed I'm not going to justify

some bush or like support some good if I felt like that person was a change and I felt like the

person that I met was changed it was a different experience so that's why I wrote a letter

do you think you old like your fans explanation or do you feel like your personal relationships

and nobody's business with you I feel like both I feel like as people that support you that's

buying it to you and that love you you have to give them some type of you know it's they got to

be able to connect with you so I can't just be like fuck y'all this my personal life I don't owe

y'all shit it's happened to me I do feel like they were at the end of the day being a real person

you know I I feel like that though it's open to them how do you how do you reconcile

supporting someone publicly when the court of public opinion is saying something completely different

because if I need you today or if my time that I experienced with you is one way I can only judge

that person that way so it's just like I can't speak to nothing that I don't know of I can only

speak to the person that I met and if I met this person that changed my life that helped me grow

that treated me like a queen that made me believe myself it's like that's what I know and I feel

like people can have opinions but I can only judge a person of what I know and what I experience

like I can't speak on that thing that I never was a part of that I never knew like I can only judge

who I met I can only judge who who I was in a relationship with we were afraid that they might

call you to testify no I never hear nothing I'll have nothing to add you seem like a very loyal

person I am at one point this loyalty become a liability that's a good question Charline we got

time we can just say that to you I mean meaning because you might be with somebody and at some point

you realize just you even be loyal to this person to a fault at some point you might have to cut

them off because they might start bringing you down yeah I mean I understand that but also I

just feel like if a person I should say for instance right I'm gonna just use this as a scenario

imagine a person help you become a better person on yourself or help you believe in yourself

or help you choose experience new things or choose introduce you to new things that was that

you was able to take and you know create create keep creating for your family or it's just it's

still a positive it's kind of hard to say fuck you you going through this shit I don't go fuck

like I gotta just fuck you it's hard you didn't say like it's it's it's very hard because it's like

I don't want to kick somebody body down and I don't want to just say fuck you you going through

that shit you got to figure it out because I don't like you my friend I have a relationship with you

I have a personal relationship with you like I know you what it's like family like we like locked in

so it's like that that's a hard situation and it's just like I cannot just turn my turn my back

on somebody like that easy like I mean it was never no love there whatever I did for you

admit nothing it just that would be a fake person to me what did this whole situation teach you

about who's really in your corner because I feel like I don't know when I listen to the

I mean I hate you in any of you sometimes I feel like people turning back on you the way you

wouldn't have done if the roles are so many people there and that go back to the liability question

like some people just gonna do what makes sense you ever say and some people just gonna ride out

with you like we gonna figure this out because things do turn around you ever saying so I think I

I'm just focus on the people that stay down the people that love they wasn't supposed to be here

did uh being tied to the the situation impact your brand in any way it did really it did bad

like I'm not talking about just social media no no it didn't like what it just it was a lot like

a lot stills a lot's money a lot's relationships a lot's a lot and you know yeah wow

after everything you've experienced right like it's I mean we can just so many things you've

experienced on a personal level on a business level you know how has your relationship with trust

changed I don't trust nobody damn I'm not going like trust is like the only person I

truly trust is God in my kids and I think that I don't know what trust is built on because you

could be knowing a person y'all hold like your kids eternally so I don't when it comes to trust I

don't that that's I don't trust God I got friends that I love and I trust to certain things but

they ain't never in the back of my mind like a person wouldn't do something to me well they're

a particular situation that made that made you feel like that or just like she's saying everything

all for how people would be with you when they and with something get hooked they just go like

then trying to stand by you then trying to support you they just keep the fuck on do you expect

you from other people I do and that's very disappointing it is I expect me in every person that I

mean I would like I won't do that anymore and when they do it I just be like whoopie do now you know

I love the city girls so I hate to see you and JT not together anymore what's the status of your

relationship now I think that when it comes to me and JT I feel like it was a marriage right you

you meet somebody y'all falling in love shit happening y'all break up y'all get a divorce it could

be ugly or it could be good it could be one that charges get a divorce and y'all move on it could

be one that we find in front of the public and I think that it was one of those situations where

you know we childhood friends that love is always going to be here that's why even when the whole

thing on it happened I'm like JT like what we doing I we can never go if it's never going to go

nowhere because it's like I'm never we ain't we both ain't gonna go that far like we family so you

said you got the period at the same time yeah like you as a as a woman as a a girl friend group

if you be around somebody every day I get your period at the same time around the same way

so it was at one point we'll be on tour like but you got to tap on you got to tap on like we

real friends we grew up together that's one of always be a person that I got love of

when something like the city girls and it's not just business though like that's a piece of

your identity so what did you have to I guess what did you grieve in letting that version of yourself

go even just like losing like a friend like a assistant did it feel like a death

it it hurts I won't say death because death person is going to come back she's still here so it's

always room for us to have a conversation so I ain't gonna say death for the hurts it's like

getting your heart broke for the first time what made you to actually grow apart like everybody thought

was Carisha she got the podcast now she doing the reality show she getting her Beyoncé on yeah

people thought well JT takes music more seriously then Carisha does what what what now I think it

was just more of she felt like you know JT into like fashion it's so many different things she

got her own land and she and I think just like we are in just two different lanes like our brands

it's just two different brands and it's like two different people trying to be one that she's

never gonna work and I think it was more of like she just had a lane that she wanted to go in and

it just wasn't the same type of time I was on so it was just more of like I'm kind of ready to do

my own thing like you know I don't really want to do this shit in my own hand older because she's

older than me so it was more of like I'm just ready to go I've heard you say JT hasn't been the same

since the fade kids what case are you talking about when she went to prison you got you you think

jail change there uh yeah I think jail shaped people I think when you go to jail if you you know

you sober in there not saying that she do drugs I'm just saying like people when you go in there

there's like time out like you have no time you have nothing to do but to sit and think and reflect

and it can like it could fuck you up or it can help you grow but it mentally do something to you

because it's like you got time away from everybody you just see and reflect and I think that

before JT went in man I was like this like we were sold like this and when she came home I just

felt a shit but it wasn't bad I didn't take heat to it because my mom been in prison so I know

what it's like to be in jail and come home they see the world there for me because they just

went in time out so I felt like that was my experience did you ever feel uh I don't know I don't

know who I call it jealousy but you know she had a man and she spent more time with her man now

and you you know you probably was used to y'all being together all the time was there anything like that

not when it comes to me because as women we all want to be what I mean like I'm I'm I'm gonna

occur is so I'm very big on space and I like to be alone a lot so I think it was me like I like I

I I disconnect a lot of times and it could come off as and like I'm disconnect but sometimes I

gotta just go and just either myself have y'all talked about any of this um

we have we I think we need a therapist we need somebody to come in here both sides because when

we try to like express ourselves it's like what you did is to meet what you did is to meet we

just point the finger at each other's like you made me feel this way when you made me feel this

way I ain't doing any of you when you ain't it's like we not getting nowhere so we gotta literally

have someone come in and say look she feel like this and you feel like this and like what's the

solution you clearly love JT like that as I'm saying so why not go get a counselor at therapists

and y'all just go have a couple of sessions with each other and put everything on the table and see

if you know y'all can resolve the relationship because I think we both need time to do our own thing

because I think that when JT was doing a thing I never wanted to make it about me like I didn't

oh you see I'm doing my thing now you're trying to come back now now you're trying to make things

and I don't want it to feel like that when I'm doing my thing so I think she did her thing

I'm doing my thing now let us both grow you know as individuals and I think that time will come

and I also think we both gotta be ready it can't just be like when I feel like I'm ready or when

she feel like she ready like we both gotta be in the space where we can sit down as adults and say

okay we interfere the space now and I think we need that time apart

so the city girls aren't done it's just like a season of separation kind of

you know I would never just off the city girls we built this together you know like we did a lot

together did she say that it never happened or it's just like it's just dead you know like it's

it's fun forever gonna be the city girls like we both come from the fucking hood we gotta that's

a accomplishment for both of us so I look at it like that you know people on the internet were

saying that it was a lovers quarrel like y'all be sizzling or something like oh I ain't never see

your heart that's what they do on the internet don't people make a shit this far believe me

if the city girls never make music again what would you want that legacy to be just the city girl

you and JT I don't want to be too too young girls they got that that girls together they came

and they made history and it was just it was built up a system yeah you've had the process a

lot of loss publicly and privately like you got relationships changing people you love no longer

here how do you even begin to separate your personal grief from what the world is consuming as an

attainment and it's the part I thought I they don't understand like for them is just like

they don't give me a grace and I think it's hard going it's it's hard going through everything publicly

with the world just being a weird and in your place and I think that I already got a chance to

actually send in go through my grievances just because it's like I always had to work or always

kind of defend myself or she's in front of the world so I just worked through the blue sheet like

I haven't really had a sign I really see in dodges everything that's happened to me but you know

they say staying busy is a response to trauma but you're trying to run from what you probably

actually actually should be sitting down and dealing with so why do I need to deal with it you say

what why do I need to deal with it I mean because I always feel like if you don't deal with your

trauma your trauma trauma ultimately deal with you like you know the example I like to use

remember when go Smith without the Oscars that's the biggest night of his life right he's about to get

crowned he's about to get best active and like everything just you know came out at one he

lashed out and he lashed out in that moment that's why I see a deal with your trauma your trauma

ultimately deal with you can't run from it forever appreciate I got to deal with it when I got

when God called me show me I don't want to deal with it right now I got too much to focus on

I think that it just puts you in a depression that is hard to put yourself out of and it's just

like I don't want to deal with it right now like right now I got I got kids to raise and I got

I got things that I need to do I don't want to be dealing with trauma you know speaking to your kids

you know like you know I still last question I'll talk about with Greep but you know you did

lose the father of your child and that's a different kind of grief because it's not just yours

it's your child as well how has that changed the way you show up as a woman and as a mother

I mean it's it's so hard as a woman losing like a male figure because it's like I always

check on my son are you okay do you know mentally how are you and I feel like he always like I'm

okay but I feel like even if he's not he wouldn't put it on me because I think you know he's a

young man that's growing up he probably don't even want to put it on me so like for me it's just

it's hard because I've been like damn I'm raising my son he's 12 now he got to be a teen so I know

he's about to hit a teenager thing who's that like him and his dad was like this so who's that

male figure and his life that's gonna replace his dad it's not nobody and it's me so I feel like

I put a lot of pressure on myself and I try to apply myself as much as I can and really you know

try to make sure that he knows like hey I'm here for you you can you can come to me about anything

I'm gonna put what it is we gonna figure it out together is he talked to you about everything

um no really he shot he's very shy like he's really really really shy he got my little sister

which is it's um I feel good about that because it's my sister then he's also

do you tell him that he got to have a hundred million dollars a girl's not gonna want to do

no I don't even steal that type of stuff damn okay at all like I literally hate when he

get on the end of the season like that but I got it to stop oh man people don't think about that

they don't think about when you got kids old enough to be online and see what people are saying

about their mama what their mama saying about other people you've had to explain that to them

my son is so smart he's like he's smart it's and he loves well that's something I love about

my son he's into school like if I go out he's like mommy you know I gotta go to school tomorrow

like how I'm getting to school tomorrow he'd be on me like school tomorrow I gotta tell

he's very love school so he he know that like if that's not something I had to explain to him he

know that do you ever talked to him about your music um I did play my apple for him

cuz they tell me you heard Carisha tells I skipped that song I ain't gonna ask this song but I did

play for him cuz as a kid I just want to know what he think and he really told me he like

a new splash he loved take me to Chanel he likes to eat um he was like I like it so I love it

they make me feel good so I want to I mean this him and JT still talk yeah she they be I go through

it so like I randomly get his phone me see your phone and they be I love you like they I don't

they got their own relationship I actually know that I'd like love that and I mean I'm sure that

makes you feel good too but unless you know like okay there's still a bond here yeah okay yeah

he loved her she loved him why don't you do it we were talking about this before the uh

interview started why don't you do more records like F-thin kids and what's up and they counted

cuz to me that's your length uh-huh cuz I love that old Miami based on I was born in 1978

so I grew up on that that's my era the Uncle Luke are like why don't you do more that like that

sound need to come back I am I think that I just had to get back in my groove you know and I had

to get back in my sound I think as artists the fans are staring you away from one show sound

cuz then they go to tell you like if I put out F-thin kids someone say you ain't growing you

still talking about F-thin kids you did it so it put artists in a place where you get in your head

and you feel like you need to make better records and then you start making shit down

you don't even resonate with your fans and then even you and now you just sound like you try and

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my box and I know that those songs feel good to me like those records that I love and I feel like

that's my best self so I am going to be more records like that so all these records you like

when you hear records like take take take me to Chanel and you know Carisha tells is that really

were you at right now oh it's always a musician here for sure I used to see what I got on right now

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what up everybody is dj and me from the breakfast club now you know me and my wife married 24

years and together over 30 and yes we still speak on the phone every day I mean the early days

I didn't have a cell phone I couldn't afford a cell phone and the cell phones were like the size of

a a man's purse but anyway I love speaking to my wife over the phone people say we talk too much

but that's my best friend why shouldn't we be able to talk all the time all day long 24 7 but

did you know that 2026 will mark the 150th anniversary of the first ever phone call it took place

March 10th 1876 and that calls sparked it all for the first long distant phone lines the first

lines across America the first line across the Atlantic the first round the world called the

first commercial cell service the first 911 system AT&T has been connecting people for 150 years

in so many different ways thank guy we have cell phones I can connect to my mom's my pops and my

whole family thank you AT&T connecting changes everything AT&T

issues so I appreciate it because I know how to do a lot like I know to do applications I know

to feel like stuff for credit I know how to apply for things so it's like a blessing in the

car is because I do wish I I did have a child girl like at one point but I did have to be a

adult fast like I had to raise kids like I had to get ready for school I uniforms at one point

I started boosting because I had the someone was in there you know like these are kids how

they gonna get uniforms I got them when young got a job so I had to go and get them clothes you know

that's why you want that man with a hundred million dollars because you want to feel you want to

be taken care of you want to just kick your feet up for us yeah I don't you want somebody to treat

you the way you've always treated people yes God you yes God you with so much happening around you

right what boundaries have you had to create the protect your piece that you didn't have before

if I don't feel bad about my feelings no more like I can feel the way in and out but I won't

say that to the person because I want them to take it it's like if this high feel this is how

feel you got to respect how feel like it's literally seeing how I feel like no it's no if I don't

want to do this I don't want to do this I don't have to explain myself I don't care how it makes you

feel because I don't have a person I I always put myself on the other side how to explain this

person feel how I'm a little I don't do that in my own I don't care I love uh go back to the

out my love the day county record what did that that recommend you because you got your girl

Trina on there you always said the inspiration you trickers on there Rick Ross like why did you

select those three individuals to do that record that's the county trick Trina and rocks when

you think of the county they did so much and you know it's not a lot of artists that come from my

email and they they did so much and it's like when I listen to the radio station because I do that

I love hearing like DJ Nasty they play a lot of Miami mixes and they all mix me and I was like

I only had that same feeling now in my generation like when you go listen to the the radio you

still hear a trick training but me and it sound new and you know like it's in Miami the high schools

the band it's real big and I just can hear them doing it like when they do the games and things

like that that's what it's like what does Trina mean to you and then what did she talk to you

Trina she always just trucking knowledge and like when I first got it to this game she can't

be listening keep your face clean know what you're doing know the business say what you want

like it's what you want like don't let anybody take advantage of you and he's being

gonna come but pick the right one and if you and if you get in the relationship with them

make sure you come out that relationship with someone damn what about what about

professionally though just to the this is the artist I mean she always just tell me like look

you're a star you're doing it don't let everybody say you she you know like you show what you can

do it's gonna always feel like that kind of this and she was like you got it like just believing

yourself and ain't that you know stop you do you feel like you've been judged fairly

now I feel like I've been judged I feel like I get judged for every thing and thing that I do

and it's just like I don't I've been trying to go down the timeline and figure out when did

all this happen and when did this shift or like what's the problem I think it was courageously

only because it was such a good podcast but you would get so comfortable on there

that you were talking you would say things and you would give them ammo like you when you

talked about getting peed on I made that up no say you made that I'm not okay okay I made

eating booty up okay no let's talk about it so I didn't even make that card I didn't even know

what a golden shower was so I came up with the cards weeks on and when I got to the car I wasn't

focusing on the shower and then she was like you ain't never did I love like a pitch note so when

we was doing a podcast I just did it because I was promoting my game so I'm thinking that this

gonna be something that she's like go wherever I ain't know it was like a whole thing of like me

actually being peed on and that's something I'm just like damn like I should have really thought

about that one I didn't think it was like uh yeah and you would think somebody made pee did he

I said that you did that for yourself I know it was that was one thing that was like

it was good and bad because like y'all the dates that was like the most talked about thing ever

and that was one month that my sales went skyrocketed by all good money all money and good money

and that's one thing I was just like damn I should have thought about that and I always go

with it too because I remember calling Brittany was like you know Brittany she was like and

even when she was like between even know what a girl in show was I'm like it's out that these

people ain't go believe me that's just something that I gotta fight that bully got it down in here

so you never been peed on damn no if I would have been peed on I literally I mean I told y'all

you gotta tell us everything I've learned that in life too I you think you got to share so much

could we be in front of these cameras in the front of the microphone we be open but I mean

if I talk about my say she like I talk about it I say that's that when you ever had to explain

to your um to your son no we never talk about it it's that's that's one thing that's uncomfortable

for me because I always be like damn I do want because I've been thinking about it now like damn like

I wonder if he I know he like he got it into arguments it shoots it's shit in school it's gonna

come it digitally hopefully not but I'm like damn why I did that to myself in my kids I do you plan

to explain like those complicated adult situations to your child while still trying to like preserve

his sense of innocence I gotta just tell him what it is talk to him like a man just literally say look

I made some mistakes and I think that you gonna make some you know and you gotta be mindful of

things like this you gotta learn from me there's something that I learned something I'm not I'm not

proud of and I regret but don't make the same mistake what do you think you've done wrong like

that's just one yeah like I hate that like I literally be like why the fuck I did it just like

you know marketing it's marketing you say shit I'm gonna like put that one's like a wrong card

but again I never been peed on so I didn't think that it was just like a thing so what does

accountability look like for you Karisha not not even just publicly but when you sitting

that on in your house just privately like what does accountability look like for you when you

looking like what did I do wrong what did I do that like the causes to happen yeah I say like

the way that I present myself the way that I carry myself the the things that I think it's fun

you know like the way I have fun it's probably not the way that you have fun so I think that

she's polishing up a little bit telling us some things down or not sharing everything like everything

like if I'm outside I don't have a good time checking my hands maybe I ain't gotta post it you know

just things like that I think is kind of like what I put out there but when you why you figure me

and you don't have the same type of fun what do you like to do that I probably wouldn't like to do

probably hang out at like five o'clock in the morning oh no no yeah lean by in the club but we

try to get on the boat no no no yeah I used to like G5 though yeah G5 is a fire spot do you feel like

you're finally in control in narrative yeah I think that now I get a chance to really tell my story

you know in nobody control narrative but you you the one that's putting out whatever whatever it is

you the one that's beating whatever it is that you're beating so yeah what scares you more starting

over solo or being misunderstood forever being misunderstood forever because I think that people

that really know me that really like know who I am as a person I'm nothing like what's out there

nothing like absolutely not and I hate that I hate that it's out there it's like a thing I just

feel like what like what the fuck what the fuck it means I could fix it well you know the time

let's say time can can can fix all right yeah I remember when you said you your music was getting

shelves was it getting shelved by QC I think at one period of time I think that was just

turned off with a sense of group like they just felt like we was letting the group go this

thing best me you know how that shit they was just over it so when we started branching off

in our solo era I think that when it came to me I felt like I always get get I felt like I just

when it kind of music I get it hard and I think that I was presenting the music some of like the

songs that I got it was just like no no we're talking about the same shit and I'm just like

well we all stand the same shit I mean I just feel like this is the music that I made

when you say we all stand the same shit like you mean like the guys we're making the

I feel like all female all female rappers now that's like the music the topic the subject it's

all the same we just send in different ways I love I like you know what QC did for a lot of

that artist but I do feel like man they dropped the ball on a couple of y'all projects in a way

yeah I don't know if it was y'all or I know that one album came out during the pandemic that

what was that I can't remember what album that was that was broke niggas don't deserve no

there was the one that that was um I don't know if it was girl called a city on lock

it was um city on lock yeah the one with those you cat was on there

mm-hmm yeah I feel like that one should have really really went but it was the pandemic like

I'm like why even put out a album during that time like did they make you do that but but people

couldn't do nothing but be at home and listen to music like everybody was in the house when

they had the quarantine lives and stuff like that so I think that was just a time when people

was just in the house listening to music but I think that we wanted like for instance we wanted

to have circulated as a single they didn't and then the song and the once it got leaked then they

ended up want to like this the song we was like we was being because we wanted circulated they

went with pin yada let's see make them do that that song we was like we want circulated

they wanted pin yada so they went pin yada circulated ended up going after the fact

but then you know how the fans that was like oh god y'all did the video after the fan we you know

you know we used to do do do do do do do and then it was more of like pointy fingers and then you

know one of those two what's the difference between that situation and your new situation with

um I think I'm in control now I think that you know I made my own decisions and I think they

just supported me what's the lesson in all this for you and in the people watching

the lesson in all of what just this this this this this this existence that

career has gone through all of these things that we've seen publicly and privately when you

sit here in this very moment right here looking at me what do you think the lesson has been

life is a journey and it's going to be different phases that like and I feel like I am perfectly

fall I have lost me like I'm going I'm going I'm a human some of make mistakes I'm a girl I'm a

crime I go through things but you know y'all have watched me from when I first started to now

in this journey and I'm it's an open journey and I want y'all to come on this journey with me

and we'll look back and say I'm so proud of you like you really went through all that shit you

you said that you took accountability you you cleaned up you realized what was wrong and

you can't find like that's what I want to put out there what does success look like for you in

regards to this um success like billboard Grammy touring um inches really strong people like

okay we we we want to estimate uh being an underdog coming out on top um well

kareisha nice to meet you again yeah yes yes you meet in a whole new like this is I feel that

I don't know why I've been around you a bunch of times but I feel like I'm meeting a whole new

individual because you know why I think that like I was I was always whenever we come and we do these

wrote these runs it's promoted something selling something so I was always trying to sell something like

I got a you know I'm more of like I don't got to do all that now it's like less it's more just

going that just just you know just to have a conversation you don't got to go and be extra and do

this and do that like the people go fuck with you it's gone it's gone I just want you to know

it's gonna be a little uncomfortable and the reason it's gonna be a little uncomfortable because

you really are standing alone like there's no JT there's no daddy it's really just

and I love and that's why I love it because y'all saw me with JT y'all saw me with daddy

and now y'all see me by myself and I'm gonna show y'all what I can do thank you kareisha thank you

I appreciate you

that's like earning your respect like you have to respect an honorable person you ever seen like

that's why when I wanted to do this conversation I was like I got to do it with Shalame

I don't have to they're gonna respect you the same way I mean I think they already do they just

fuck with you they fuck with me online like they are they fuck with you because you're such a

transparent person and you give them energy if you ignore them they still fuck with you but not as

much yeah but it's good they it's good to fuck with them back sometime yeah but I don't know

like now I just like I'm gonna lock out there's a really like that we can do until that music drop

when you drop that up you're gonna be there all night going through your twitter

I am I'm being touched by that all day I'm I am I am looking to see what people's reactions are

I am that I that would drive me crazy I don't know how y'all do it do it drives me crazy it does but

I tell all of them that I saw a digital guy but I be telling Jess Lauren all of them stop looking at

the comments it's hard because you want to see what people online saying about like if you drop

you're really going to look to see if they fuck with it but then you go down that rabbit hole

of the negativity and then if you want to think that true you that make you feel like

I am the defend myself I need to pull myself and it's like you know that shit just opened

up a door for it to keep going and that's what I learned I don't think it's real I really

truly don't believe that majority of that shit online is real it's a like you know we laughing

about the jack hollow out but I think people are just doing it because it's funny

yeah that's it that's it that's it it's the it's the humor for the week like let's make all

these memes it's the like you know I don't personally can't put out but it ain't you know

it ain't it ain't worthy of all of that but it's just funny yeah like nobody's even talking

about the music it's just a joke it's just the meme it's just the memes the memes of the joke yeah

so you they're gonna I don't know they're gonna always give them that they're gonna always

do that to artists yeah like I don't know any artists that that doesn't happen to them yeah then

I forgot the actual question I want to ask you all right come on let's do it man okay oh the cameras

okay so a question that I wanted to throw back at you was you know just turn it to an episode

of Croatia please yeah possibly okay I wanted to I really want to just you know

talk about growing up being something that you were doing you are who you are now

do you believe that people change absolutely I believe people who change people grow people

evolve like the first book my father ever gave me was the autobiography of Malcolm X and the reason

I love that book so much is because it literally shows you the evolution and transformation of a man

like Malcolm X was Malcolm little he was a pimp he was you know you know selling selling drugs

number running all types of stuff but then he went to prison you know got introduced to the

teachings of you know the honorable Elijah Muhammad and became a whole different individual he became

the Malcolm X that we know now that's another reason why I love you know the NOIs so much because they

show you that transformation and growth is possible but you got to be intentional about that growth

like you know it can't be performative like you really really you know got to got to do the work

so yes I absolutely believe in growth and evolution yeah and that's another thing too when you say

he went to prison I think that when people go to prison it's about what they do with a time

of prison because you go to prison if you go to school you got so many programs you go to school

you can learn it that's when people come out they do a book and they talk about they experience it

experiences and prison and I think that it's kind of like what you do with your time of prison

and I think like my mom she felt so bad because she was like I left my kids out there that she didn't

really go in there in growth like she can't resist me oh my god I'm like girl it's fine it's okay

we're good you got good kids like look at me I ain't out here kidding nobody doing it wrong like it's

okay like and that's something that I learned to like pat myself on the back it's like it's hard

out here and longer you show up and you sacrifice for your kids like it's okay you know the thing

about growth right it's so funny in this era because especially with social media they want

to allow you to grow you could be a whole different person evolved on a whole different level but

they'll be you know talking to you about something you did five years ago 10 years ago 15 years

ago 20 years ago and you like damn I ain't even on that no more but they'll constantly remind you

of who you work so we got to do such a great job we got to do a great job of protecting

our piece right and not letting them tell us who we are yeah you know yeah and I think that's a

problem in social media like what you was saying we breathe so much online about ourselves that

that's what we feel in our mind and it's just become a thing of like you start like I'm seeing

this coming 15 times 20 times like you start that shit start like digesting in your mind it's like

that's why you can't be on it we I was telling you like when your album come out just give

yourself at least I know it's gonna be hard but give yourself at least the weekend like the album

drop on a Friday don't don't check the comments tell Monday okay just give yourself 48 hours just

to experience the joy of putting out a solo album yeah just just just let it ride for a minute

yeah I'm gonna do that I don't think you're gonna do it I don't believe I don't believe it I'm

growing shot of me mm-hmm growing you you said something earlier when you was talking about you

know Diddy that I you know I thought about but I never like heard anybody speak about it's like

when you know somebody later in life he probably is a whole different person probably has you know

grown and evolved and learned from you know those mistakes but we wouldn't know that yeah you know

yeah and I honestly and I think that people think they're like oh you trying to protect some it's like

no literally like when we talk we talk about like Uncle Richard please like church Jesus and you

know that's too church and he was just so like trying to instill so much that I think that he probably

experienced before and that's why I'm like okay this is a man that has changed because of all

the shit that he probably previously went through oh man I saw him we was at Bishop TD Jakes

because at the part of the house one Sunday and he was there and I saw him balling like like

balling like throwing himself on the altar right this was it's like maybe two years ago I think no

I couldn't maybe two maybe three years ago I don't know maybe two three years ago and I just

remember thinking to myself like boy he doesn't been through it like he's going to do something

right now yeah cuz yeah I was like you know kids kids need to go to church on Sunday you need to

turn some TD Jakes do this do that yeah did I got more into because I always had a relationship

with God but like more into church did he help did he help you grow spiritually um yeah I

would he always send me sermons and stuff like like do this before you go pray before you get some

do this you always are tied to God what is a day like for Croatia because I know I've seen you wake

up taking your kid to school and you'll be listening to the radio like what is it a regular day like

for you in Miami wake up take my kids to school go home check my emails call my management

whatever it is that I don't feel that I express myself and I start working on new things I think

that I'm like constantly trying to create and like come up with new ideas and you know it's

floor new things because I'm like what's life for me outside music and that's been a hundred

point north so it's always like trying to come up with new products or like what can I create

it's different like what people doing is that I can't really grab their attention they make this

another moment cool unless you want to do more Croatia please I'm here for Croatia please we bring

a Croatia please back god damn it we're gonna bring Croatia please but I'm glad that like I had a

break from season one and two because now I got so many ideas of how I want to do season three

season three differently like now like I want this to be different I want to approach it like this

I want to do it this way I want to do it this way so it just gave me a moment to really sit and like

look at it and see like what was different about season one what was different about season three

how can I I mean too how can I gross season three like what can I do to make the fans

wanted the first the first time it's out because season one like I don't know if y'all was

what one was that was hanging on me yep y'all said Diddy brought my own he did the award now when you

want to be was it D.T. hip-hop or D.T. but I earned that shot I mean you had two at four episodes but you

wanted no okay you I have four episodes and what what was it for episode yeah it's the fourth

and I mean it's Kevin Gaines it was Kevin Gaines Diddy was the second no Diddy was Kevin Gaines

I don't know how I went but the first episode was powerful episodes and then it was tied between

drink champs and Korean drink champs is on yeah I was on revolt courage please was new it was a new

vibe a new experience I had hook on now I had people getting wide open we had the same and we

get to the smoke the trailer was different you have no cocaine you have no cocaine no but we have

who can drink the vibes so I felt like it was something different something that's always

different and new people gonna be on it you know people on stuff that's trendy or that's new

I think it was it was it was it was new and it was also me like appreciate interviewing somebody

so how would you make a difference season three all four I wanted to be I want to have like I

felt like I do have a real conversations but I want to interview on a different level like a

real deep level like I want to go deeper like who talking to people like with Sarah J Roblin so like

yeah I would love to see that I love to talk to Obama I would love to see that I really want to

talk to Obama you could be the president Michelle liberal president yeah you would be good on

Michelle they should they should try to get you on Michelle's podcast for you I they should she

gonna make a cry I just she gonna bring something out of you yeah I mean I love to sit down with

the you know the first lady that's the thing I do be hating about um this one they look at

certain people especially us from the south they think we slow for some reason yeah we're not

realizing like do you understand where we come from and the things that we learn early like we get

instilled with like common sense and sovereign values that you know put us in a position to where

we can prosper anywhere in the world yeah because we don't we keep things simple for the most part

yeah and I also and I like as a mother I mean looking at our kids I would like Daniel what can I do

differently or how am I raising my kids differently on how I was raised because we still like

am I any so even though we not in the hood the environment is still the same you know like the

the kids that they don't want to school with and things like that so I think about that a lot

I just want you to give yourself grace man I need you doing you doing good like your number one

you you're alive right and you know your your child is doing well you're not in jail like you

you beat nods already like think about where you come from like you said you shot the

shot the video for a new new slash back in your hood look at that environment and be like yo I

I came up out of this I'm the roles that grew from this concrete so you'll continue to give

yourself grace that you don't know what god got playing for you that's why when you know people

laugh and be like oh she says she's going to be the next black Oprah like you know you laugh

because Oprah already black but I don't know you really might end up being that who am I to say

you're not going to end up being that yeah anything is possible you gotta believe in yourself that's right a

lot of people don't believe in itself that's what's up now I don't got to accept that ever you never

felt that I mean I do it at times but I got to kick out of this I feel like I just can't because you

got to be like the losing world of it to get where you want to go when the last time you said you can't do

something and then you snapped out of it hmm probably like today I was like it's so hard for me to

stay consistent workout I can't do it because I workout for a month it's hard for me to eat clean I

say you could do that you could do that you got a train on mine shit it is hard to eat clean when

you're from Miami you got the licking right there I know that I'm doing these shows every night

it's the who cuts the drinks you see what I'm saying but I could do it you got tricks restaurant

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eat a booty man I shouldn't ask trick I was trick feeling about trick don't kill it nobody

got to say like he is he is the um face of eat a booty game he got his shirts the merch all

like you know kill what's my thoughts I feel he's standing on the end salute the trick

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