Zach & Leah: 🎲 A Perfect First Date… Until the Truth Came Out

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Zach is on the phone today for a first date follow-up,

and he's getting ghosted by Leah,

so in a few minutes we'll call her

and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him,

and maybe get him another date.

But first, Zach, how long has it been since you heard from Leah?

It's been about a week.

Okay.

It's kind of a sweet spot where people start to panic a little bit.

Yeah.

I get that though.

Have you tried to reach out to her?

I have.

And honestly, just going straight to voicemail.

Oh, man.

Oh, that's got to hurt.

Yeah.

Anyway, tell us about your date.

We didn't do anything too crazy.

I cooked her dinner in my place and like, I really can't cook.

So it was a good turnip.

We played some inoply.

And...

How long was the date?

Like seven hours.

Inoply takes forever.

She came over for dinner around seven.

We started playing around 830.

She didn't leave for a long time.

Yeah, it was a long joke.

All inoply.

But...

But that's okay.

It sounds like you guys are really enjoying each other's company-ish.

Yeah.

Yeah, no.

Like, I even let her be the car.

She's clearly she's winning in life.

But...

Well, we messed around a little bit.

It was fun.

Like, when you say messed around a little bit, you don't have to give us, like, details.

But what's a little bit?

Like, did you guys hook up all the way?

That is details, you won't.

Yeah.

So I just don't want to, like, all the details.

Oh, we had a good time.

Okay.

You know, at the end, I thought we were gonna, like, hang out because she said, you know,

let's do this again.

And I thought that was not facetious.

And I haven't really heard back.

Did anything happen, like, during monopoly or while you guys were messing around?

That may be a reason why?

No, like, so, like, during monopoly, everything was going great.

We're connecting and, you know, everything, like, slowed really, really well.

And, like, she's probably the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life.

Oh, wow.

It had me, like, wondering, like, do I just have that lighting on my house?

And, like, is it like a nightclub in there?

But, like, the only thing I could think of is I have a picture of my son by the door.

And I noticed that she glanced at it, but she didn't say anything.

And maybe that freaked her out.

Did she already know that you have a son?

No, like, I didn't really know how to bring it up.

Okay, so you didn't tell her you have a kid?

No, not yet.

So, I think I'll be gold if you were dating if you're a single dad.

I feel like that would be good.

I mean, some people are super into it.

Me being one of those people about, yeah.

Well, so did you notice her, like, looking at it?

Was there a moment that was kind of weird with that?

No, she glanced at it and, you know, move forward.

Everything seemed fine.

Nothing really changed.

She asked me a thing about it.

So, I don't think there was anything there.

Could also be that you didn't mention it.

Yeah, you know, some things are just better

a lot to be discovered.

Right, but I mean, for her, she might be like,

oh, he didn't tell me he had a kid, like, he's hiding things.

Yeah, I mean, maybe I should have just, you know, led with that.

Yeah.

I wouldn't lead with it, but there's definitely a place where maybe

that would come up in conversation, especially if she's at your house

with a picture, but did that happen at the end of the night

in the middle of the night?

I'm just trying to see, like, if her mood shifted at all.

Very end of the night, like, right before she walked out.

Okay, Zach is on the phone and he's not getting a call back

from Leah.

So we're about to call her and see if she'll tell us why

she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date.

But before we do that, Zach, refresh our memory about your day

with Leah.

So, I came over to my place.

I made your dinner.

We played monopoly.

We had an amazing time.

I think she's the prettiest girl I've ever seen.

And I've been getting ghosted for about a week now.

Why was it, again, that you think you might be getting ghosted?

I mean, before she walked out, she noticed the picture of my son

on the wall.

And I'm not sure if that freaked her out a little bit.

Because you didn't tell her yet.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I didn't really know her put that in on her first date

conversation.

You ready for us to call her?

Yeah.

All right, here we go.

Hello.

Hi, man.

Speak to Leah, please.

This is her.

How can I help you?

Leah, this is a radio show.

It's called the Jubal Show.

How are you?

Hi, Leah.

I'm Nina.

Hi, I'm Victoria.

And my name is Jubal.

Oh, my God.

I didn't think people actually did this in real life.

Like, you hear clips online, but I didn't know it was actually real.

So you actually have heard of the show?

Oh, yeah.

Totally.

Sweet.

Great.

Well, Leah, do you know why we're calling?

I'm hoping I won something.

Oh, I'm hoping you did too.

We do a segment called the first day follow up this where if you go on a date with someone

and you ghost them, they can email us to call you and ask why you're ghosting them.

Oh.

I'm not telling you that for no reason.

That's the reason we're calling these are ghosting somebody.

And they emailed us because they're wondering why you're not calling them back.

More specifically, why you're just sending them to voicemail when they call you.

Okay.

Well, it's definitely back then, huh?

Yes, it is.

Can you tell us why you're ghosting him?

He really wants to know.

Okay.

The date was great.

He's clearly a nice guy.

I think we had a lot of fun.

But someone has definitely been there beside me.

And I think she was cooking.

Like right before you, you mean?

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised.

His place is immaculate.

Like, it looks amazing.

And I'm talking like, this is not guy stuff, right?

Like, there's perfectly arranged flowers.

There's decorative pillows literally everywhere.

I don't know.

Some people like that, you know?

Some are.

They've been usually been taught.

And I guess what I'm saying is like, it felt like I walked into Pinterest.

It's really long.

It was very nice.

And he just kind of.

So this is where it gets his word is word.

So I mentioned it.

I'm like, wow, your place is really beautiful.

And he goes, he just casually says, yeah, my ex was an interior designer

and still brings me fresh flowers and decorate several months in a while.

She still brings him fresh flowers.

I guess.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Wait.

Is that why your ghost is?

Leo, that's Zach.

He's actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you.

Oh.

Okay.

Then no, you were high.

I have.

So let's pick back up.

Zach, your ex brings you flowers still to your house.

It's not like that like she's just an interior designer and she likes

a raging staff as a project for her and uh we haven't been together in forever and

there's nothing that's going on between it. Back there are scroll pillows.

No man has that many pillows. I do. Unless someone else is active.

I've got a lot of throw pillows. Yeah. I can't catch this stuff. I like it though.

I can't. Okay. I mean yeah, I like having a nice place and like

I guess maybe flowers and pillows are a bit much but like she's not living there.

Like I can't just have a little bit of taste and appreciate some fresh flowers here and there.

I don't even know that it's because you have a nice play sack. It almost seems like this is her

way of being like what's the deal with your ex. Yeah, you can have flowers. I think they're cool.

It's clearly pretty but they're coming from your ex. All right. Well wait. So this is

absolutely nothing to do with the do you sing a part of my son?

What son? The picture that I saw you glancing out on the wall.

So you lied to me twice. Your ex decorate your house and you have a kid that you never mentioned.

Oh yeah, I know. I feel like those are the big things to just skip over.

Okay. Okay. Get where you're coming from.

Let's just heal for a second. It looks like reset. Okay. Let's just start fresh.

Hey, give it back. I have a son. I have a good relationship with his mom. She's an interior designer

and she keeps the place nice for him. Not me. She has a boyfriend by the way and she's

supportive of whoever I choose to date. Wait, so backup. So your ex is also your baby mom.

Yeah. Okay. That's like she fell over. She brings my son over and

brings a few things and like it's probably for him to feel more comfortable. So

the his place that he's staying with her is similar to my place. She doesn't want me to look bad

in front of her kid and like it creates a more comforting environment. So I'm open towards having

my place have some thorough pillows and some flowers, as long as it makes my son happy.

I mean, look, that's all well and good, but I don't see why you couldn't have told me that

sooner. I really don't feel like this was when I should have been. You know, I mean,

that's not something you just drop on someone after a date. I just feel like I feel like you held out

on that. Like you kept it a secret from me or something. No, like listen, you're the first person

I've got on a day with in a very, very long time. I didn't intentionally. I'm actually interested in

you. I didn't really know how to bring that up into the conversation. I thought that was more

like a second day conversation. I thought the first day was just to see how we connect

without complicating the scenario. It's not really something I did intentionally. I'm sorry,

if you feel like that was what helped for me, but that was the one I was trying to do.

It's just weird because when you ask me about my family, I definitely mentioned everyone in it.

I think skip a child.

Listen, I would really love to like you again and take you out again and you know, if you're

open towards it, you know, it's just I didn't know how to bring that up in a conversation. This is

you're the first person I've got on a day with since.

Leah, would you like to go on another day? Was that cool? Pay for it.

My heart wants to say yes, but I feel like I should say no. I've had this happen to me before. I've

had an ex who held out that he had kids and it did not go well. So yeah, he had two.

And he didn't tell me until like four months in the dating, which like obviously way worse.

But like this just gives me bad vibes. I'm not comfortable.

So the fact that after a first day, you found out I have a kid you're not comfortable.

I mean, I guess I have to be honest with you again.

If you don't have to be around a kid, I mean, I don't look like a lot of you.

I just I didn't say I didn't bring up something I didn't do.

No, I was wrong. I actually got your family and you didn't mention a child.

Like that's lying. It's lying by a mission.

I do lie to you. I just let's help the truth.

You sound like a delight. Yeah, no, that's just like lying, but with wrapping paper on it.

I guess we can agree disagree.

If that's how you want to put it, fine, but yeah, no.

Not doing that again. I'm not going down that road twice.

And that's the last time I let somebody win him an athlete.

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