023 Mobile Home Roof Repairs with John and Chris

In today’s Mobile Home Investing Podcast episode #23 we’re talking to active mobile home investor Chris about his positive and negative roofing experience. From the very beginning Chris has asked questions and taken action daily to help others and make a name for himself in his local market. In less than 2 years Chris has helped over 18 sellers move-on with their lives, and 18 buyers find homes to own. Some of these 18 mobile home roofs were weak, older, and not as safe as Chris would like before reselling his properties. In today’s 33-minute podcast we’ll talk about some of these common repairs and tips for your own mobile home investing business.

Some reasons Chris will tackle roof problems and pay for a new roof to be placed over the existing one:

• Lower purchase price of subject mobile home.
• Low competition if mobile home roof is moderately or severely damaged.
• Access to more leads.
• Chris knows his buyers will be paying him for 5+ years of cash-flow. Chris wants his tenant-buyers to be safe and happy while paying full-price for his mobile home over time.
• More interested buyer and higher sales price.

In this mobile home investor episode John and Chris cover:

• 1:50 Quick background and Chris’s opinion on dealing with roof issues.
• 4:01 At what point of repairs do you completely redo the roof?
• 7:00 What condition do you find some mobile homes at with roof issues?
• 8:34 Tips for roof inspection.
• 10:43 Types of mobile home roofs.
• 11:24 Podcast intermission
• 13:10 Some roofing repairs
• 14:45 Chris’s experience with roof repair materials
• 17:50 Chris describes his process to add a metal roof over an existing roof.
• 19:05 Selling a home and dealing with roofing repairs.
• 22:35 Chris’s creative fix to solve a tenant-buyer’s roof trouble.
• 23:40 Have you ever fallen through any roofs?
• 25:40 Do you used licensed and/or insured roofers in town?
• 28:06 Considering your exit strategy while investing.
• 29:03 Purchasing homes at a discount.
• 30:45 Chris’s experience dealing with mobile home shingle roofs.
• 32:34 Advice for other mobile home investors.

Step 1: Identify your situation (for investors)

A. You already own the mobile home and it’s filled with a buyer/renter: If you are currently the mobile home homeowner then it is wise to use your insurance to help fix any serious roof and ceiling issues. If insurance is not available, then a decision must be made to:

• Use your own money to fix the roof issue (if insurance proceeds are not available).
• Borrow money to fix the roof issue.
• Depending on your paperwork it may be the buyer’s responsibility to fix any roof issues. If so, aim to check-in regularly on your buyers if they are planning to fix the roof issues themselves or are using a local contractor.
• Consider a win-win approach to working with your tenant-buyers already living in the mobile home and paying you monthly. As described in today’s podcast episode Chris offered his tenant-buyers to make him monthly payments for the cost of the new mobile home roof he installed. Over time Chris makes a profit on his energy and the roof repair.
• If your buyer owns the home and is paying you monthly, consider checking with your local state’s government for housing repair assistance programs for lower income individuals in which your tenant-buyers may apply.
• Leave the issue alone and live with the problem. In this scenario the problem likely only gets worse for you and the resident.
• If the home is vacant and you do not want to make repairs, you may try to resell the mobile home in “As-Is” condition. Aim to disclose all needed repairs to your new buyers.

B. You’re under contract the purchase the home: If you have already agreed to a price/term with your mobile home seller before the roof repairs were discovered then a decision must be made to:

• Back out of the mobile home deal with the seller.
• Ask for a lowered price due to the new repairs just discovered. This method is ideal.
• Ask the seller to pay for the problem fixed by a licensed roofer. This is not as likely due to the seller needing to sell in the first place, therefore the seller’s money for repairs may be limited/gone. Additionally, as active mobile home investors we aim to be one-stop-shops for sellers with problems.
• Proceed forward with the sale as agreed and purchase the mobile home in As-Is condition.

C. (Most likely) Looking at home before making a purchase offer: As an active mobile home investor this is the most common scenario you will witness/evaluate ceiling concerns and structural roof problems. Remember to…

• Inside the mobile home lift up ceiling panels (if possible) to feel for wetness. Bring a flashlight to look for mold, wood rot, and mildew.
• While inspecting the investment mobile home aim to always look for ceiling leaks in every area of the home. Bring a flashlight to look in closet corners and dark rooms.
• It can be wise to visit a mobile home you are considering buying after a local rainstorm.
• Make sure to push walls from the inside of the home to check for wobbliness where vertical wall studs fail to join the horizontal floor joists due to severe wood rot.
• On the outside of the mobile home consider peeling away exterior siding panels (if loose) to feel for wetness.
• Look for missing or damaged metal flashing where the exterior walls meet the roof.
• Consider using a ladder to climb to the roof. Inspect for holes. Be aware of missing or full gutters.

Step 2: How bad is the mobile home roof problem?

As an active mobile home investor there are a few things to consider then evaluating mobile home roof problems.

First, what does the mobile home roof issue/problem look like? Make sure to take pictures to provide to a mobile home roofer for estimates or an experienced investor for advice. Ask for advice at your local real estate investors club if unsure about repairs.

Notice: As the author of this post, I certainly do not want you investing in any risky mobile home investments due to lack of experience or help. If you are unsure of specific roof repairs for a mobile home, you may be evaluating, please feel free to send an email to [email protected] with all questions and ample pictures of the roof and ceiling.

Second, has the damage spread to more areas of the mobile home? Example: Has a roof leak gone unfixed for months/years and significant water damage spread to the entire home inside? Or did the leak just happen and seems contained to one room? Or has it already been fixed?

• Only minor ceiling leaks in a single area: Likely very manageable.
• Minor ceiling leaks in multiple areas: Likely manageable.
• Visible hole(s) in roof: Manageable, however it is vital to look for additional problems in roof, walls, ceiling, floors and more due to water getting inside the home. Your exit strategy will certainly come into account here depending on your rehab budget and expected profit.
• Sagging roof: This home is likely not the path of least resistance in your local area. However, if the purchase price and resale profit numbers make financial sense then replacing the entire roof and rebuilding all damaged roof trusses could still be very profitable. Pro Tip: As an experienced mobile home investor, this author usually will pass on a mobile home with a seriously sagging ceiling. A very minor degree of sagging may be expected in older homes however this is on a case-by-case basis. If you have any specific questions, please email pictures and questions to the email address above.
• Tree fell on roof: This home is likely not the path of least resistance in your local area. However, if the purchase price and resale profit numbers make financial sense then replacing the entire roof, walls, and rebuilding all damaged roof trusses could still be very profitable. However, in most situations this would likely be a "pass" for most investors in most areas.

Step 3: Identify the roofing material?

Metal: Many singlewide and doublewide mobile homes from the 1950’s, 1960’s, 1970’s, and 1980’s are metal roofs.

Rubber/Tar: You will notice some mobile home roofs seems to be made of tar paper or a black rubber membrane coating the surface of the mobile home roof. This is a covering of liquid tar, liquid rubber, or some other material (see below) that has been layered over the metal roof for the past few decades. If you remove enough layers, you’ll eventually find the original metal roof.

Shingle: Many newer mobile homes come from the factory with single roofs. These mobile homes can closely resemble traditional site-built homes with their shingles and pitched angle. Be aware it may be wise to only have 2 layers of shingles on a mobile home at once. More than 1 or 2 layers of shingles may cause the roof trusses to fail under the weight. With that said this author has seen a mobile home roof with 5 layers of shingles and still holding strong, this however is obviously not ideal.

TPO: Also known as thermoplastic polyolefin. This is a single-ply reflective roofing product that stretches and fully adheres to the mobile home roof, gutters, and vents.

Roof-Over: This is a general term used to describe an complete new roof installed over an existing mobile home roof. These new roofs can mimic the same slope as the original roof or form extreme slopes based on the owner’s preferences. See picture below.

Other: Did we miss a mobile home roof type? If so please let us know in the comments below.

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