148. We Have an Announcement… & LIB S10 Eps. 10-11 Reactions

Welcome to another episode of Out of the Pods. Happy...

What happened?

Now that we're getting our intro, I was waiting for you to say, I'm deep D&I and I almost

said, I'm Natalie. Ever since we switched up and not saying, I'm deep T&M Natalie, it's

just wrecked our entire intro. Okay, we'll happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. I'm still

feeling embarrassed. You're just a girl. You're just a girl. I'm just a girl. What is it?

I'm just a baby. I'm just a baby. Where's that from? It's from TikTok. Oh, yeah. Because I

said it in my improv class and I was like, why did I just say that? I remember you saying

it in improv and I was like, why is she talking in TikTok lately? Because everyone's like,

we had to go into character mode and I go, I'm just a baby. Because someone was like in

the character of a mom. And so I was like, oh, I'll be the baby then. And everyone's

like, what? They're like, hello, are you okay? They're like, isn't that the meme? And I was

like, wait, why did I just say that as a 34 year old woman? You know what? Because you're

cultured. That's why. That is how social media influences you. I know. I keep seeing

articles about how short form videos are really, really, really bad for your brain. The way

your phone is balancing on your like, it gives like shaking. I do this every single time.

The fact that you just noticed every episode I have it like, is it going to topple? Is

it going to topple? It's literally on your kneecap. No. My thighs are great support. It's

like very steady over here. You jinxed it. I know. Sorry. Just you lit jinxed it. Okay.

Well, anyways, go on. I was going to say how apparently gray matter increases in your

brain when you watch short form videos, which I do every day all day. And so I'm taking

a break from TikTok. Yeah. What happens to people who watch police body cam videos all

day every day on YouTube? Asking for a friend. You know, let me, let me do some research

a lot and get back to you. Does that cause gray matter? As long as it's over 20 minutes

long and that's not short form videos. That's a long. That's a long. Sometimes I'll watch

like hour-long police cam videos. I mostly addicted to watching shop lifters get caught.

Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like suburban. What a niche thing to watch. Yeah. Just like very

addicted. Like when I'm washing my dishes or like cleaning my house, I'll have it on

in the background. Yeah. And it's always like a suburban mom with like three kids and

she's wearing like, you know, Prada and has a Chanel purse. Ooh. And you would never,

you would never guess she would, she would be shoplifting at Target. She is. This is just

her side hustle. Yeah. And it's always like her saying, police are, you know, I have to

pick up my kids in 15 minutes from school. And they like go to some like crazy private

school. That's so weird. Yeah. And she's just like getting arrested. Like man, what

business do you have stealing? Like a bunch of, she must just be doing it for the thrill

of it. And it's like stupid things like beach towels. Yeah. Beach towels. And I was like,

man, you drive a Range Rover. Okay. And there's no beach anywhere near here. Why do you need

a towel? Well, no, it's just police cams wherever in the world like Florida, whatever. I

know. I don't know. Like imagine there's not even a man. Literally, she's like stealing

just like random stuff, like just sunscreen. Interesting. I was like, you must be doing

it for the thrill. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. She's doing it for the thrill.

She just wants to feel something. Okay. She's a suburban mom. And you know, life is getting

a little stale. Yeah. But I just love watching the police cams. Okay. Interesting. Yeah.

But me, I, the reason why I need to take a break from TikTok videos is because now a lot

of my content is all AI generated BS. And I'm falling for it. Yes. But it's like weird

stories of like, like love stories or something. I know. And I'm like, why am I getting targeted

for this? And I look at the comments and everyone's in the same way. They're like, how did

we get here? And I'm like, that's me. How did I get here? I know when I am 80 something,

and I will be getting scammed by AI. I'm already getting scammed by AI. And it's actually

very upsetting. But these like weird romantic movie films that are all completely AI, I'm

like, what I'm confused as to why I'm the target for the use. They're like, we know she'd

love this. Like, look at her loving ours. She doesn't have any romance in her life.

Here's a little fun. Romantic victim. That's like what? Recently, I fell for a scam call

and they're using AI. You know, the voice thing. Yes. Yeah. And I fell for it. I had a whole

freaking conversation with who I thought was someone from FedEx. Oh my gosh. Okay. And I was

like, wait a minute. Yes. This person's asking for my social security number. I was like,

this can't be the other day. And this has been happening to me a lot recently where like

random numbers will just text me. And one of them the other day was, hey, can I ask you

something? And my crazy brain was like, pretty good. My number two that like, you know,

that this strange man is texting me. And I was about to fall for it and I was like, wait

a minute. This is probably like a scam text to be like trying to get me to pay for something.

But like my toxic brain is thinking, this is probably like someone really needs to ask

you something. And they're like a random crush I had or like a random guy I met at the

bar that just didn't save his number. Or he's finally thinking of me. That's where my

toxic echo stopped. That's why I stopped deleting people's numbers where I will delete numbers

of people that I haven't talked to in a really, really long time. And also anyone I've dated

in the past, like I don't say their number, but also I'll delete the text thread. Like

I was just like, I just, why would I have the number and text from someone I only went

on like three dates with? Yeah. And then sometimes they'll like text me a year later.

And I'm like, who is this? I love how there's two types of people in the world, people

who will delete the text message threads. And then people like me who will save them till

the day I die. Wow. I just love having even my like X of that long term boyfriend, even

though it was so tumultuous. I'm like, what if I just want to like reference something?

So I just keep what if I remember seats? Yeah. What if I just one day think about him.

And I was like, let me just, you know, search something. I don't know. I have all of them

though. There are certain X's where I'll keep their text thread, you know, four receipts.

Or like, I don't know if let's say one of them writes a book one day and I was like, listen,

can we pull up the text messages right here? Cause that is not what happened. She will

get her lawyer on it immediately. Also deep. And I went to brunch for the first time

ever, first time ever, never been to brunch together. Yes, we have. When have we ever

gotten up so early to go to brunch together? You tell me, it's always been a dinner.

There has to be times during our lunch or like 3 p.m. during the day will like meet up.

That is so crazy to me that we have never ever been to a brunch. Where have we ever been

to brunch? That's blowing my mind right now. I think the earliest time you and I have met

up is when we went to recess with the girls from the show before season came out. Okay,

we have lit. We've been to Hawston to go get coffee and work, but that's not like brunch.

That's true. I guess I mean, we ate. I feel like that was later in the day. I think that

was like 11 o'clock. Okay. Actually, you're actually blowing my mind. I was like, wait,

there's no chance ever been to like brunch brunch. Like when like you had brunch plans.

Yeah, that's true. I don't think you're right. You're right. I don't think we've ever been

like, hey, let's go to brunch and then like had a glass of champagne. And yeah, guys,

we went to Oxbar and Herth here in Chicago. It was amazing. It was so good. And honestly,

we needed it. The only thing that surprised me was we both had a glass of champagne each.

And I had two steps of mine. I was I was like, I could be dancing on the table right now.

Like I was a drunk. No, she you guys she literally whispers over and she goes, she goes, I can

feel it. That's like my face is going a little hot. I was like, I just I already knew as

soon as you said that I was like, you're not going to drink the rest of that. Give it to me.

Yeah. Yeah. No, DG had my glass. I needed it. I needed it as a hair of the dog because I went

out the night before and I was like, this is going to help me. Just give me. Yeah. You and I were

there for two hours. And we just talked about everything under the sun. Yeah. Yeah. I've been going

through something crazy. So I needed some advice. Yeah. I don't I would say it was less advice,

but more so we were just like complaining to each other. We're like, well, you know,

that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite types of conversations, though, is when someone goes,

can I say something mean? Yes, because like there's no judgment. No one is listening. Yeah.

It's just you and I complain away and tell me everything that's long in the world because that

helps our nervous system. That helps regulate our nervous system. I love when someone is like,

can I say something mean? And you just know something juicy and crazy is going to come out of

their mouth. Yes. Like so out of character. When you say that to me, I'm like, speak.

I feel like we need to make brunch plans more often because I can't believe we haven't had

brunch before. I know. Can you believe it? Do people go to brunch these days? Yes.

You know what? That's my like least favorite meal. Really? Yeah. I freaking love a brunch.

Like a Saturday brunch with your friends. And then you go home after it a little tipsy.

And then you do nothing for the rest of the day. No, I don't like a brunch where I don't like

brunch menus. Oh, you mean like brunch food? I like more like lunch and dinner. Actually,

I really love lunch. I love lunch foods. Wow. Yeah. Where the portions are a little bit smaller

than dinner. Yes. But like I feel like for lunch, you could still have pasta, but you could also

have like a club sandwich. That is so weird. We're so opposite because brunch is my

fave. And then I'd go straight into dinner probably. Dinner and drinks, a little martini.

I don't like the breakfast sandwiches. I don't like, you know, like what is the two eggs

any style? I don't like seeing that on the menu. Oh, listen, I'm a chile keelay's girly

through and through baby. Why have you ever seen that on a brunch menu in Chicago?

Everywhere all the time. What are you talking about? Never seen that. If anything,

I pick the place based on the chile keelay's only. If there is none on the menu, I'm not going.

You know, fun fact, fun fact. I don't know how to transition to this next thing we want to say

because we're going to feel so wrong to talk about brunch. I'm going to say it feels so wrong to

talk about chile keelays. If within the same minute, chile keelays and then something important.

Yeah. Okay, we're going to get serious. Pops sees before we continue on with the rest of this

episode. We do have something very important we want to share with you. After a lot of thought,

we decided that this will be our last season of Out of the Pots. Crazy. And honestly, we did not

make this decision lightly. We have been talking about it for a very long time now. And we're just

so, so proud of what we've built together. It was two best friends who just had this idea to start

something. And it grew into something so amazing. And I think the most rewarding part about this

entire thing is the community that we have built. And it is you guys, the pod besties that have

just made it so worth it. Yeah, you guys have been so, so amazing. And we will never, ever take

you guys for granted. Our last episode will be March 25th. And we'll share more on that episode

how we came to this decision. But one thing I want to say before there's like any speculation,

this decision has nothing to do with our friendship, our relationship, like literally that was not

a factor at all when making this decision. If anything, we continued on because honestly,

talking to my best friend on a mic every week was so, so much fun. And I, I think that was like

really the one thing that had us keep going. So I just want to make it clear, like our friendship,

our relationship has had nothing to do with this decision. You are and will always be my best friend.

Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'm going to get emotional talking about it. But we're going to save the

tears. But no, I echo everything that you just said. You are literally my OG pod bestie. And you

will be for my entire life. But yeah, we're just so happy that we got to do this together. And

if we continue talking about this, I'm going to get so emotional. So before the tears start rolling,

let's just enjoy the rest of the time that we have left together. Let's get into it. Let's talk

about the actor awards. No, yes, let's move on from that. It was making us too emotional.

I was like, I know, I saw your eyes get like glazed over and I was like, oh my god.

So I just know our last episode is going to be, it's going to hit our whole issue.

Um, about the actor awards that was on Netflix. Um, I loved it being on Netflix. Oh, yeah,

me too. Yeah. I loved that it was like live-ish. Is it always live like like for the Golden Globes?

Was it live? Mm-hmm. It is. Oh, yeah, it is live. Wait, you know what this reminded me of? I don't

know if you know the podcaster Jake Shane. Yeah, yeah. Okay. There was a episode where he goes is

the Boston Marathon the same, the same distance as the other marathons.

And they're like, I fear that is common knowledge. That made me think of you.

Is it always live? No, wait, is it? Like I honestly didn't know. Like when I put on the Golden Globes

or like whatever award show, I always think it happened the day before. And they're all pretending

like it's happening live. Like it's not actually live. This just proves that you don't really care

that much about awards. Yeah, it's like I'll put it on and I'm really just there to eat the snacks.

Yeah, if I go to someone's house like watch your award show, I'm like I'm just here for the food.

No, that's so fair. I actually thought about this yesterday because I was like, oh, I was like

looking at people's outfits and obviously they're so decked out and like gorgeous.

My favorite I think was Viola Davis. Yes, I loved her, loved like little side shoulder thing,

whatever. Anyways, I thought to myself I was like, I would need like an entire team.

To be on that red carpet. No, I think that they have like entire teams to help them with their

look, which must be so, so tiring, like going to multiple fittings before the red carpet,

like doing makeup trials, hair trials, before like the final look. I mean, it's like a wedding.

I saw a clip. I think it was Chloe Kardashian or Courtney Kardashian, but they were talking about

why they don't go to the Met Gala anymore, but it was mostly because like it's so much work to

go to these events, like which I guess to us, like how much work can it be? Like you have a bunch

of people dressing you and doing your makeup and hair, but also as an introvert, I could understand.

Like I was like, I wonder if the people at these award shows like actually like being there,

knowing that they have to go to like multiple award shows. Yeah, because award season seems hectic.

Yeah, and you have to have like a unique look for every single one of them. And yeah,

that it just seems like a lot more like there's got to be an introvert there somewhere, you know?

You know how many of those people are probably introverted and just have so much social anxiety.

To be like, I have to walk down the red carpet. I have to do these one-off interviews where people

are just randomly asking me questions. No, I was thinking that too. I was like, oh my gosh,

it's an introvert's worst nightmare. Yeah, 100%. But as an extrovert, I think I would enjoy it. But

as an introvert, which I'm not actually listening, I can barely get dressed for like a date. Okay.

I like sit in bed for like an hour to thinking about like, how do I maybe cancel? And I was like,

no, no, no, I can't. That would be rude. And then I get up and then, you know, I can't even get

myself to go through the closet. Like I have like the anxiety of being like, oh my gosh, I have to go.

Yes. Honestly, I would do 12 award shows before I went on a first date. Oh, that's how I feel

right now about dating. Okay, can we talk about how as two single women in our 30s, our dinners are

either like girl dinner or a full blown crisis. Like a few nights ago, I was romanticizing cooking

with love is blind on on the background and a glass of wine. And then the next day, I'm eating

cereal over my sink, which yes, I do this way more often than not. And every year, I say I'll get

better at meal planning. And then I just don't. But what finally clicked for me is that meals don't

have to look one specific way. They just have to fit into your life. And that's why Marley Spoon has

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for up to 25 free meals. One thing I loved about the actor awards is they didn't cut off the speeches.

Like, you know how typically at like the Golden Globes or the Oscars, they have like music that plays

when, you know, time is up. You need to start wrapping up your speech. They didn't do it for the

actor awards. And I really liked that. Imagine if you win a big award and then like there's music

playing being like, hurry up. I'd be like, I'm really in it. I think to my mom, dad and my sister,

and I'd be so frazzled. No, absolutely. The one part about the actor awards that I got super

emotional about was Harrison Ford accepting his speech. And it was like a lifetime achievement

award type thing. And I was heavily, heavily emotional about it just because it's like,

oh, his entire like career and like snippets of all the long, such a long career. Yeah,

and it was like, it's just so sweet to watch it. But I did notice like that he was taking a

little bit longer with his speech. And I was like, oh, I wonder if there is like the music is

going to come on. But I'm so happy that they let him take the time to speak for however long he wanted

because he has earned it. Yeah. And yeah, anyways, it was really beautiful. But I was waiting for

the music. I was like, don't you dare play. I'm a rambler when I'm nervous. So I feel like I need

the music to be like, all right, yeah, hurry up. And it's so diabolical when they make it louder

and louder. So like, even when you're like, well, I just want to say my last thank yous and they're

like, nope, sorry. I think when the film parasite won an award at the Oscars, I forget which one,

but they actually turned off the lights on state. Oh my god. Do you remember this? Did you see

this moment? They like started to play the music. And like, I think it was the director,

wasn't wrapping up. So they turned off the light. And then everyone in the audience was like,

no, like, turn the lights back on to have the director finish his speech. Or I think it was one of

the producers, maybe it was a woman. But that's something I would need. If I won an award, I need

something to like shut off the lights and be like, you're done. No, if someone did that to me and I

didn't, I missed the mark on the amount of time I had, I would literally feel so embarrassed for

honestly, the rest of my life, I think like, especially on a stage like that. If I'm nervous,

I would've been like, and you know what time when I was a little girl, one of the actors who

was in sinners was was making a speech because of the movie one like best movie or something.

And he was looking around and he was like, where's the teleprompter? I can't find it. Imagine not

having your speech and not knowing where it was. And you have to speak for the entire movie,

I'd be like, well, thank you for everything. Okay, bye. Have you ever practiced reading on a

teleprompter? Yes, I'm really good at it. You are. See, I'm really bad. I looked it up on YouTube

and I was like, because I was curious like how newscasters do it. And I was like, I wonder how they

just like read a teleprompter. Yeah, wait, you remember we did this? We did the teleprompter thing

for Netflix. What? You and me had to go in like, it was like some actor or I'll have to look it up.

But remember, we we literally read off the prompter. It's fine. Let's forget it. Oh,

man, wait, no, don't remind me. I can't believe I don't remember this at all. I'm going to have to

pull it up. I was thinking it was for. It wasn't our Forbes. It was, we were wearing, I was wearing

all black. I remember you were wearing white. And we came in and we were reading off the teleprompter

to do like a, it was like an event or something, but they were like recording us for it. Do you

remember this? I'll pull you were wearing red and I was wearing white. I was wearing black and

you were all black suit. I was wearing like a black dress. And they both, they both brought us in

to LA to do it. And it was like a, a thing. It was like a little function. I don't even know what

it was for, but it was like, they filmed us and we had to read off the teleprompter. Do you remember

this? No, you remember everything. I know. And that's why I'm so, so shocked. I don't remember it.

And I can't even think what the, what the product was or what they're like, is it like we're pulling

things out of a hat. That sounds right. Kind of. Yes. There was like other people there. Yeah. Like I

think like Nick and Vanessa did it before. Yes. Yes. Something along those. Yes. Like we're pulling

things that happened in season three. Was it that? No, that was different. Oh gosh. I'll send it to you.

I'll find it and send it to you because I definitely have footage from it because I remember taking

videos with you. No, I know. I'm shocked. I don't remember because I truly don't forget anything.

You really don't. Oh, I was wearing pink. Oh, you were wearing pink. Yes. It was for the show

beef season one. Oh my god. Yes. That's exactly what it was. And we had to read off the teleprompter

because they have like a specific thing we needed to say for the beef. And we were playing games

with the other people where there was beef. Yes. Yes. Oh, man. I don't remember the teleprompter,

but I know what day, but you saying I wore white through me off because I was like, oh, yes. I

think about like when I've worn white at an event. It was a, it was a pink suit. You're totally

right. I totally remember. Oh my gosh. Oh, scared me. I really pride myself in having a really good

memory. Yeah, it really. You're like an elephant. They have really great memories. Oh, they do.

Is that why you have elephants all over your apartment? I remember it sucks. It's inspiration

for my men. It's a reminder of me. Oh, he's, he has a big canvas painting of an elephant above

her bed. And I was like, it's like me looking at you. When you sleep, how dare you now I have to

remove it all. And she has like elephant pattern pillows. And it's like me. I mean, it's a

little bit of a stretch, but I'll let you think what you want to think. Whatever makes you happy, honey.

Elephants and me go way back before you, but

way back before you. Well, anyways, let's get into Love is Blind episodes 10 through 11. What a

show. No, it was a show. I didn't think that Bri and Chris's conversation could get any worse

because it was pretty bad at the end of episode nine. And then we start episode 10 continuing on

their conversation and it gets even worse. It gets worse. Who would have thought that it could

get that bad? The fact that she still gave him so much time is what pisses me off, but I do

think there was a lot of editing happening in that conversation because there's just no way she

didn't have more reactions to what he was saying. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure, but I'm just shocked

she didn't walk away sooner. So recently he was revealed on social media. I think it's Chris's

ex who wasn't on Love is Blind who revealed this, but Chris is allegedly $60,000 in debt and he was

sued by two credit card companies. And knowing that and watching this conversation where Chris is

pretending to be wealthy, he's talking about his assets and the four seasons. It is so fucking

funny to me, like what an insecure, but also like crazy man. Also, it's so diabolical that he didn't

think that he was going to get caught. Like you're going on a very, very public reality TV show and

for you to be talking like that, but being debt is diabolical. I know. Like literally talking

about your Charles Schwab account when you have nothing in there. Literally, it's always the

men on these shows though that like just get caught in crazy ass lies. Yeah, the internet

sluts will find out anything you lie about. And we're on season 10 of Love is Blind guys. Like

there's no hiding. Yeah. If you have cheated on a girlfriend in the past, if you were insanely in

debt, most likely the internet will find out absolutely. The fact he was like, no, I'm just going to go

on a very, very popular public international reality TV show. I mean, that's a level of ego that

I hope never finds me. No, absolutely not. But it's crazy because he's insecure, but also has an

ego and acts like overtly confident. It's like very like I was like, what is Chris? Yeah. And yeah,

it's like very weird. Like he tries to like cover up his insecurity by boasting a lot, but I guess

that is the biggest sign that someone is insecure. But he's also randomly like so ecotistic and

confident. Remember when he says to breed during that conversation, like, are you attracted to me?

Yeah. What world? And I was like, my god, the audacity of like, can they roll the tapes because I

need to know what breed answered because the they didn't give us an answer really. Yeah. They just

ended it with, oh, like I wouldn't do this experiment with anybody besides Connor is what Bre said.

And that was it. But I was like, I get all angry and he's like, people they got manned

your tape. I was like, I was like, what? I love how she was like, I don't know who that is.

You know exactly who Andrew Tata. She's just like, I don't want to be involved in this political

drama right now. I'm going to walk away. That was so funny. That was crazy, though. The disrespect

is can insane. And even his conversation with Jess was really weird. Like the fact that he thought

that they would continue their relationship or that Jess wouldn't be upset about it. He's like,

are you all good? Are you all fine? Like you went to work, okay? She's like, no, I didn't.

It was bad. And he goes, also, you never texted me and she's like, are you kidding?

She's like, are you? I asked you if you were alive. And he goes, well, that was just like

went time. Listen, I will say that he is very, very drunk at this point. So like, I don't know if

he realizes he's not making a bunch of sense. But also soberly, he has a very strange,

strange, strange individual for sure. Yeah. Like, I know we said Alex was an alien,

but Chris is also not of this earth. And even when he like was talking to Bri and made that

face, like, that I literally, oh my god, I got the biggest, like chilled out my spine. I was like,

I need to burn my TV now. It's my fault for showing up and watching this. It's my fault,

actually. I know watching this episode was like, someone was forcing me against my will to watch

it. Yes. Even though I'm choosing to watch it, but the feeling is as if I'm being like forced to

watch it. Like, I'm so uncomfortable. I don't want to watch it. The moment he stuck his tongue out,

I was like, what, what do I, why do I feel like I need to take 20 showers? Yeah. No, immediate

chills down my spine. And honestly, we put ourselves in that situation. It's not even just what he said

in the motions and the actions. It's the fact that he's talking to somebody's fiance that is

not his. And then the adacity for Chris to go up to Connor and be like, it's good to see a buddy.

Ugh, just disgusting, disgusting, disgusting behavior, especially because when they were in the

bathroom, he was telling Alex, like, oh, I'm going to hit on Bri. Like, what's, what's Connor going

to do beat me up? I was like, yeah, he would not only is he not a girls guy, but he's not a guy's

guy. No, he's just a guy, I guess. No, Chris is pissing me off. And I'm really happy we don't have

to see him much else on this. I really don't want to. I don't think I could take it anymore. If he pops

up, like in the finale episode, like, it's game over. He pops up as someone's wedding. It's me.

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I wonder how Chris felt watching himself. Yeah. Can you imagine being Chris's co-workers or friends

and family just like watching him do this? And they text him like, hey, you saw the most recent episode.

So how are you doing? Want to go to four seasons? Everyone from my company literally

watched this show when they found out I was on it. And then imagine everyone from Chris's company

watching it knowing he's on it. And they're probably like, so Monday morning, hey, Chris,

so how are you doing? No, it's so bad. I would take PTO for like actually the rest of my life.

Yeah, I was going to say I could never show up back to work. Yeah. But no, I'm sure Chris is

getting the brunt of it. Yeah, that was a crazy conversation he had with Bree. But what did you

think about the conversation between Alex Priyanka and Ashley? I was so here for it. I was so excited.

I knew Priyanka would come with some tea because obviously she's linked to Alex outside of the show.

And it's so weird, but I feel like Priyanka was put in this season just to call Alex out on his

lies because why is he lying about the Austin check? Like, who is the Austin check? And why do

you need to lie? It just felt like he's lying about the entire situation. And like, why doesn't

matter if you stayed with her or not, just be honest. I feel like there are so many lies because

he also like to Ashley that he flew out to the pods from Cleveland, but he actually flew from Austin.

So obviously he's like lying to her like how much time he spent in Austin. And I think that's

where his ex lives or his situation ship, whoever she is to him. There'd be one thing if this was

like the only time Alex got a detail wrong, right? Like maybe he misspoke, but he also lied to

Ashley about where he flew out from to the pods. So he told Ashley like, yes, I told you that I flew

out from Cleveland because it would be easier to explain even though I actually flew out from Austin.

Yeah, those are crazy lies to tell. I just feel like she's getting frustrated because he has a

pattern of not telling the truth. He just like lies to lie exactly. And at this point, it's like kind

of just in his DNA to lie. But that was the most telling factor when he's like, oh, I didn't tell

you because then I have to explain all this or like it gets complicated. Then just explain it.

Yes. And also, but that's like, that's the whole point and you literally, he literally nailed it in

the coffin right then and there. It's that you are embellishing or you're lying or you're forgetting

details or misspeaking to like make it easier for people to understand, but it would be better if

you had just told the truth. And then everything you say could be believable. I had a ex like this

who also lied about like things you shouldn't lie about. Like there was no point in lying about it.

Like, for example, my ex lied about what college he went to to other people like he told someone he

went to University of Wisconsin, Madison when he actually went to University of Wisconsin,

Stephen's point. He also lied about like he had to get a booster shot and I asked him, I was like,

oh, did you get the booster shot? And he's like, yeah, I got it. And I found out he actually didn't.

He just felt like lying to me at that moment. That's so weird. It was just like he's like, I don't

know why I lied. It was just he's like, I just, I don't know why I told you that. It's like, you

know, people who just lie to lie. It's like they can't help themselves or it's like natural for them

to just lie. I feel like that's the type of person Alex says. Yeah, absolutely. Where they just like

embellish a little bit here and there. That's how it starts. But then it just like leads into

full-blown lying that I have had people like that in my life before where I'm like, it doesn't even

make sense for you to lie about that. Yeah, like, you know, it has like no big impacts to lie.

Exactly. But you just lie to lie. Yeah. And people don't care one way or the other. Yeah. But yeah,

it's it's definitely a disease. Alex is really, really sketchy though. Yeah. Yeah. The lying. But also

after their bachelor parties, remember, he talks about like what he wants in life and he goes, you

know, like, maybe like a trust fund here and a house here and blah, blah. And I was like, Alex,

okay, listen, right now you don't have a house anywhere. I don't even know where he wants to live.

But the fact that he said he needs a safe house in New Zealand was very confusing because does he

know what a safe house is and why do you need to listen? Everything that comes out of his mouth,

I actually don't believe. I think he just like says things to say things. I'm going to have a

trust in Dubai. Yeah. I'm going to have a like I think he just like says random shit. Yeah.

It's just like a lie. It's just like I think he's even lying about what he wants. Like he doesn't know,

he's just like whatever sounds good. I'm just going to say it. I could be in Florida. I could be in

Dubai. I could be in New Zealand. I don't know literally. He's just very strange man. Very,

very strange man. And I don't understand him. There is absolutely no way in how Ashley is saying,

yes, and I don't even know why she is going to the wedding if I'm being honest. I think Ashley and

Alex are in the scenario where they know that they're most likely going to say no at the altar,

but they're just kind of sticking through it and keeping with their filming schedule just for

like screen time. I mean, like it's more common than not that couples do this every single season.

Yeah. You know, we've heard about it in practically every single season where

they knew they were going to say no like literally when they were on their honeymoon trip like in

Mexico, but they pretend that they are unsure until their wedding day just for the screen time.

Yeah. And it's also really tough to because like if you if the couples are being intimate and

they're living together, there is a level of like closeness that does come from the experience

and also filming together. And then the other side of it's like, oh my gosh, there's so many

red flags like glaring at you. So it's you're trying to process it in real time and producers like

encouraging you to stay in the process and also kind of confusing you like I remember I was concerned

about something and my relationship on love is blind and producers were like, oh no, that's not

like a red flag. Like you're good. That's crazy. And then looking back, I was like, they totally

lied, but I think you're so tired and not thinking straight and things are like happening so fast

and you're also working, you're nine to five at the same time. Yes. And you just like, you can't

think straight. No, you can't think straight at all. That's what's crazy about like looking back

on the experience. Like you have all the facts now, but you didn't have it at the time that you

were going through the situation. But like the lot of the cast is like real time processing all the

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That's better H-E-L-P.com slash out of the pods. I'm so happy that Priyanka was there to kind of

validate Ashley in feeling like she doesn't have all the info or like the facts are blurry, you know.

I just like that she was there to show like Alex does lie. Again, not about like big, big things,

but about like he's definitely has like a lying streak. Yeah, like something is just awesome.

I can't quite place it. I feel like their whole storyline right now is that Alex is not an honest

person. And I feel like that's like the thing that keeps getting brought up. The one relatable

thing that they did was when they're back home and Alex is like, do you want me to order you

McDonald's? And I was like, yes, that 2 a.m. drunk food solves almost every problem. It literally

solved her problem immediately. She's like, yes, fries too. I'm afraid that would work on me so

hard. I know. Same. I'd be like, okay, yeah, let's not talk about this. Let me get ready for these

nuggets. Jordan and Amber, I was kind of shocked that they had a little tiff after that pod squad

mixer. I know. And I wonder what happened. I like even rewinded it back to see what the issue was.

And I think Amber just misheard him or was like, I don't know. She was also very, very drunk.

I think so too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It escalated really quickly. And that's what alcohol does to you,

man. Yes. It makes you a little bit more sensitive. Blows things out of proportion. Just a

little tiny bit. Not that I'm saying Amber did. But I think she really, truly misheard what he said.

Because I actually, I really like Amber. But I do think she kind of blew things out of proportion.

Yeah. I'm glad that they were able to sit down and actually talk about it. And I thought that it

was very healthy the way that they did. I feel like if there is some sort of downfall with this

couple, it's the fact that she has walls up, which I don't blame her. It sounds like she's like

been in relationships where it's caused her now to like be very protective of not only herself,

but also her daughter. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think like her having her walls up and not really

letting them down too much for Jordan is I feel like may cause some issues in their relationship.

I do understand where Jordan was coming from where he's like, I'm not sure if like Emma will like

me, like he's kind of worried about that. Emma is Amber's daughter. But I'm glad that there was

plans for Jordan to meet Emma before the wedding. Oh, absolutely. And I think that's important.

And yeah, I think it's a valid concern. It's not that it's like coming out of the blue. I think

I would feel the same exact way if I was engaged to somebody who who had a child and yeah,

like I would just be concerned. And popesies who are parents let us know like how you would deal

with this situation. But I feel like if I had a kid going into the love of his wine experiment,

I'm not sure if I would get married. But if I became really serious with my fiance on the show,

I would want them to meet my kid before I got married to them. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And it can't

just be right before like the old time moment or something. Their opinion would also matter a lot.

But on the flip side though, like because everything's happening so quick,

is it kind of like a little bit irresponsible for your kid to meet your partner?

If you're not sure what you're going to say at the altar, like I don't know. That's why it's

complicates things so much to have a child on a lover's wine scenario. Because there's a lot

at stake. So I don't know actually now that I'm like thinking about it deeply, I don't know what I

would do. Yeah. I think if I was a parent though going on the show, I probably wouldn't get married.

But it'd be like a way for me to find a partner. Yeah. Yeah. And even if you're like so sure that

you are ready to say yes, I feel like even if you did get married, it would be like a slow transition

or like a slow process to move in together or to like get acclimated to the new person

and your child. But what if your child doesn't like your partner after you get married,

like then what do you do? You're just screwed. Dude, these are all things that you find out that

your partner isn't great with your child. Like isn't actually like, you know, someone that

you know, you realize like, oh my gosh, actually, like they don't treat my child well. Like I

don't know. Yeah. This is someone I actually want. Like what do you? I don't know. I know.

There's so many. I know. I know. I was like, actually now that I'm like thinking about it,

I don't know what I would do if I was a parent. Yeah. I don't know. It's a tough one. That's a tough one.

Wow. Wow. Yeah. I guess that does like kind of really complicate things.

Okay. But can we please talk about Bree ending things with Connor?

Did she even end things with him? I didn't even know if they broke up or like she was just like,

I'm gonna say no at the altar and we'll just see how it goes. Like I was like, what's happening?

That's so true because they were like, well, I hope I get to marry you. And I'm like,

what's going on? What's going on? Why are you confusing my man's like this? My man's Connor.

He's like such a sweetie pie. And I just feel like she's being so mean. I like to think that

her sign is affection gone into her way. You know, when you have a sign is affection like a

stuffy nose. You're not thinking straight. Yes. I'd like to think like she was like my nose

plugged up. I don't know what I'm saying. Like I'm just, you know, sometimes I'm like that like

when I can't breathe, I'm like, oh, I don't know what's happening. You're like, I can't

life right now. Okay. Like I'm hoping that's what was happening to her because her conversation.

Like I was like, what are you saying, Bree, especially when she says to him, like, I'm not sure if

you're the total package or you're just here in my life to teach me about being loved. And I was

like, uh, Bree, what? It also like to talk about making about herself. I get it. I guess

it's your wedding and your days, your love. I imagine if someone said that to you, like,

I'm not sure if you're the total package or you're just here in my life to teach me to be loved.

It's like, oh, yeah. I feel like, oh, you're just trying to figure out if I'm a stepping stone.

Right. Yeah. Or if you actually love me. Okay. Cool. Like what changed from just like a

yesterday to now, yeah, that you're like, I don't know, you're confused about our connection. Is it

Chris? I mean, it cannot be Chris. There's just no way. But I was very confused that whole time.

And I felt really bad for Connor, especially like in his interview after when he was crying. I was

just like, why are you being so mean to this man? I know. I felt bad for him. But I do think that

Connor knew like that they were going to have this conversation. So it does seem like she gave him

a heads up. Yeah. It just like his reaction was so tame during the conversation that it felt like

they had already talked about it off camera. Yeah. Fair enough. But even then, like, I thought she

was so harsh on him to be like, oh, when I look at your car or your house, like it seems like you

don't care about anything. It's like, he's just a guy. Leave him alone. Yeah. What if Connor

said to Bri, like, well, look at this Cape jacket you're wearing. Oh my god, the Cape jacket.

Someone, Larry 2010, someone left a comment and was like, you can't be this mean in a cape.

Like, it's just not a good look. I'm pretty sure I have one in my closet right now.

Yeah. I go get it. Should I go put it on? Yeah. She's like, I stand on business in my Cape jacket

as I'm breaking up with you. It didn't feel like this like soft breakup. Why do I feel like Bri was

like laying off Connor at work? But she's like, like, you know, that HR person that can't really say

like, you're getting laid off. It's like skirting around it. Yes. That was like that. That was

definitely a business meeting. Yeah. She showed up. She showed up already to go. She had notes.

She had a presentation. And he goes, no, I don't want to get laid off. And she's like, well,

well, potential for you not to if you change your performance. Yeah. No, that's so funny. Yes.

Exactly. That's 100% what it felt like. Yeah. No, I was like, this is mean. I didn't like it.

Just coming for his character or like, just coming for him in general. I don't know. You're just too

nice. Yeah. I don't know how I feel about Bri. Like, she's not like the worst on this season.

Obviously, that goes to Chris and maybe he run her up his Alex. However, I feel like I've seen a lot

of not so great things about her. For example, there was a TikTok about how she used to be a bully

in high school, like really bad, like treated someone very poorly. And then also, I was talking to

one of the women from this current cast. And they said how Bri is pretty much

disliked by most of the women on the cast. And I feel like that's very telling how someone is

behind the scenes. Yeah. Because why? I need to know the T on why. I know. And what happened,

which because usually when the cast comes out of love is blind, the girls and the guys. And

I'm going to speak just for the girls. Like, usually the girls are very close, especially right

away and especially right when the show is airing. I feel like you have that close-knit bond. So,

like, it's interesting. I wonder what happened. I know. Same. Look, would love to get some tea on

that. I know. I'm hoping it's revealed at the reunion. But it sounds like most of the women,

like even in the broader love is blind season 10 cast, like don't like breathe. Yeah.

Minus a few. I think Bree's close to Priyanka. I saw that, like, they've been hanging out. So, yeah.

I did hear a little bit of tea that there might be some conflict that will happen at the reunion

between the girls. So we'll see. Can we talk about Brittany buying her wedding dress before she

went on love is blind? I know. I was like, babe, they're going to pay for that. You don't need to buy one.

I was very confused about that. Why? Yeah. Wait. Did she buy it when she found out she was going on

love is blind? Or did she buy it like, you know, just because I have no idea. Actually, I have no idea.

But either scenario usually you don't just buy a wedding dress. Like, if there's not somebody on

the horizon, but I feel like maybe like when she was doing love is blind interviews and stuff,

she was like, I have a good feeling. Maybe. Yeah. No. That's what I was trying to figure out. Like,

did you buy this wedding dress because you knew you were going on the show, which I think actually

makes it worse than the other scenario just like buying one just because. Yeah. Because I feel like

then it put a lot of pressure on her that like my wedding dress better gets some screen time.

So I better get engaged and also stay with my person till the end. Yeah. Because listen,

I don't think that was a cheap wedding dress. Yeah. She's probably like, I spent a lot of money on it

and this better gets some fucking air time. Yeah. Or it's like a manifestation type of thing where

it's like, you know what? Like, play into what you want to happen. So she's like, I just know

that I'm going to find my person. So I'm just going to buy this wedding dress. You know, buy a veil.

Okay. Buy something borrowed or something. Yeah. Buy a pair of shoes, but a whole ass wedding

dress. Listen to each their own. But like, Bernie and Devonte, like, I just don't see them make

it. No, they're not getting married. There's no way. Yeah. Because I feel like Devonte is also

holding back because why didn't we get any family scenes with him? That makes me think he's not

serious. And this is when I knew it was truly over. Like, he say no at the altar. It's when he says,

like, yeah, I just need a day off. I'm just going to be unreachable. What the? He's already

planning his escape. He's like, I need one day a year. He goes, please, I just need a day without you.

And that's crazy to say as someone you've only been with for like probably four and a half weeks

at this point. Yeah. Because if you did really love them, you would be like, so like, I don't know,

so like enamored with them. Yeah. You wouldn't need a day off for someone you've only been with for

like four and a half, five weeks at this point. Yes. Okay. That entire conversation when they're

talking about the prenup. And then before the prenup, they were talking about how, you know,

oh, like, Britney's like, I just know you're never going to gush over me. I just know that like,

you're not that type of person. And she wasn't really that upset about it. Yeah. And then he

brought up the prenup. And she was so mad. To be honest, I don't know if that's the piece you

should be upset about. To be honest, I'm on Devon today side with the prenup. I was like,

Britney, why wouldn't you want to sign a prenup? Like, you really trust this man. You've only known

for like five weeks at this point. Yeah. When he said, oh, I make 40k a month sometimes. She's like,

yep. Sign me up. Yeah. I think there was some internet sleuth who did some digging. And he's

in like a specific job role where he makes a good commission. Okay. Regardless though,

Britney, you want to protect your assets. Okay. Yes. You ask. With a man you've only known for

four point five weeks at this point, like, you really are upset about the prenup. If anything,

you should be like, hell yeah. Yeah. So I'm okay. I'm not going to lie to you in the past when

someone has brought up a prenup. I'm like, oh, that sucks because like, do you not trust this

relationship? Do you not trust that we're going to last? But I don't think like that anymore.

I think there is a difference with the prenup issue. I'll always get a prenup, no matter how long

that I've known someone, how long I'm with someone. But I think there's still a difference

of asking for a prenup when you've only known someone for four point five weeks first,

asking for a prenup when you've known someone for years and years and years. Like in your situation,

yeah, if let's say you were dating someone for one, two, three, four, five years and they

bring up the prenup, maybe there's a side where you feel like, what, you don't trust me. But in

this scenario, in the love is blind world, you only know your partner for like a month and a half

before you get married. Yeah. If anything, every single couple who's even thinking about it

should be getting a prenup. Yeah. 100%. The fact that he Devante is also like, oh, yeah, like,

I brought, I'm bringing this up now because, you know, we're close to the weddings when I'm

not going to see you. Yeah, he's like, I'm going to be a reachable. Yeah. And I bet it's not for

just a day. He's like, I need a whole week. Yeah. That man is not going to marry her. I just have

a feeling that it's not going to happen. And I think she's going to be heartbroken. Yeah.

100%. But I mean, a lot of things have been leaked about Devante, which we'll say in the next

episode. Oh, yes. I mean, the finale did drop today. So I think if you watch it, you kind of

already know how it turns out. But yeah, like Devante's, let's just say his world is wild.

His world is absolutely wild. And I heard about that leaked tea. And I was like, oh,

you can just never, you just never know. It's never no. I'm not shocked. I'm not shocked. I need

your opinion on the first wedding of the season, Emma and Mike. I'm so mad. They love to us at a

cliffhanger. But what is going on with Emma? Like, baby girl, I don't think she wants kids. And I

think she's just kind of stringing a long mic at this point. You know what people are saying

online about them? I think this is mostly coming from Mike's camp. So probably from his friends and

family who are like leaking this on social media. But allegedly, him and Emma agreed to say no

before their wedding day. So they're like, talked about what they're going to say. They're like,

we're saying no. But Emma ended up saying yes. And people are saying the only reason she said yes

was to make him look bad. Interesting. Yeah. That's why I think her speech was so weird. Like,

her vows. And even in his vows, like, asking about kids was so odd. Yeah, no, it was so odd. And

I think people are being like, that was so inappropriate to say on your wedding day. But I think

because they agreed to say no, he didn't know what to say. Because he didn't want to say something

like loving, but also not make it obvious like he was about to say no. Yeah. Like, they do say

that like producers, they didn't tell me what to say. But they did encourage me not to make it

seem like I was about to say no in my vows slash speech at the altar. Yeah. Keep it ambiguous.

Right. And like that moment, the vows are really in this experiment like a way for you to just say

how grateful you are for the experience with your partner. Like, even if you're going to say no,

it's like usually a pretty positive thing. Yeah. But no, I was very confused with his vows to

like they didn't seem like they were vows. Yeah. So I've obviously I feel like he's definitely

going to say no. And that's why they left it on a cliffhanger. But that's interesting that Emma

and him had a conversation and potentially before. But also I'm side eyeing Mike because he says

like in his interviews during the wedding day, he's all like Emma's going to be the one to make

the decision or something like that. Like she's going to go first. And I was like, okay, you guys

agreed to say no, but you're kind of trying to make her bad like kind of position it where it's

like up to her. Yeah. Yeah. Which is so stupid. Because like let's face it, you guys want different

things out of life. And that's okay. It doesn't have to work out. But you know what? On their wedding

day, I really think they're trying to make each other look bad. Like Mike put it on Emma being like

it's up to her for her to make the decision. And then I feel like Emma said yes to make Mike

look bad. That's so odd. Like yeah, that's what happens often. Yeah. And if Emma and him did agree to

say no, like I wonder what changed her mind at the altar. Like I wonder if she like got scared

and she was like, why would I say no? I love you. I'm going to say yes. Yeah. It's just like

threw him for a loop. But what a shit show that is. Oh my goodness. I feel like there's two reasons.

She either wanted him to look worse, not as a bad guy, but like to make it seem like. Yeah.

You know, he's the one saying no. The second is like producers got in her head. And we're like,

you need to say yes. Imagine if the producers did pressure her to say yes. And then didn't

pressure Mike to say yes. And it's like where they trying to create this type of scenario where

one says yes and the other says no. That's like kind of crazy to me. I mean, I don't think that

they should be married. I respect Emma being unsure if she wants kids. I think she should definitely

take her time on that. Whether it's a yes or a no. But I think it's okay to be unsure and like

thinking through it, right? Like you don't have to have the answers right away. But

Mike clearly wants kids. And so like in this moment of time, they shouldn't get married. No,

absolutely not, especially with the topic as big as kids. Like yeah. Why are you even trying to

pretend like oh, we'll work through it. Yeah. You're not going to work through it. It's not

going to happen. Like in this instance, love is not enough. But yeah, that's why I think Emma's

wedding speech slash vows was so weird is because like ultimately she was planning on saying,

you know, and then it kind of changed last minute. And you can kind of see it in her face too.

Like she kind of like shocked herself in a weird way. No, I think she was like going to be like,

oh, Mike's going to be shocked. So she's trying to be like, I'm saying yes, just like, you know,

like I feel like it was more like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm excited to see what happens

after this. Yeah. Oh, I know. I'm so surprised also that they started with Mike and Emma as the first

wedding. I don't know why that the order of it, I for sure thought it would be Vic and Christine.

Because you know, they're both going to say yes, I feel like it's going to be like that fairy tale.

Maybe they're saving Vic and Christina's at like happy ending, you know,

yes, during the finale episode. I just realized we spoiled the ending for Mike and Emma. But

the finale came out today. So you guys would have found out anyways. Right. But wow, Emma,

switching it up. I know. I know. But I think it's less on Emma. I also think Mike, I didn't like how

he was like, it's up to her. It's up to her knowing that they agreed to say no. Yeah.

Prior to their wedding day. Like that. Also, I'm like, I don't really like that either. Mike. So

well, who else do you think out of the couples is going to say yes, Vic and Christine, I feel like

there's no way they don't get married. Agreed. Amber and Jordan. Jordan. What do you think?

I think they say yes. I do too. Yeah. I feel like they had like a little tiff, but then they're

pretty good throughout the show. They had good communication. So I think they will end up saying yes.

Brittany and Devante. Absolutely not. No chance. Yeah. Alex and Ashley. Nope. No way. I wonder if they even

make it to the altar. I think they would put. Yeah. Actually, they do. I think I saw in the

trailer. Yeah. Yeah. I think I saw in the preview, which actually, girl, you should have just not

even bothered. But listen, some people, they're like, we chose our bridal dress. We're doing it.

We're doing it. Here we go. Yeah. What a season already. I know. This is so much better than last

season. I agree. Yeah. They saved the better one for season 10. I feel like a lot of it is like

the drama and the complex characters. Yeah. As the seasons go on, we need the drama. Yeah.

Otherwise we lose interest, sadly. Like Chris. Yes. He's crazy, but dang. He gave some really

crazy scenes for the show. You really did. That tongue scene will be forever engraved into my soul.

And I honestly, I think I would pay a lot of money to get it removed.

Yes. I agree. Well, Pop Besties, thanks for sticking with us for these last few episodes. Let

us know what you thought about episodes 10 and 11. And we're so excited for the finale,

which comes out today. Yeah. See you next Wednesday. Bye.