248 - Mad Dok Grotsnik

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1:29I'm Grabbing! We got a fun orc episode. I don't want to throw all my voice out yet, but get ready for that. We got an orc episode. We're doing a mad dog grotsnick. So everyone get your wags ready in the chat because we're going to be yelling, hey, yo, fishy, how's it going? You ready? What's your orc course like? Well, boys, it's not all that different to my normal voice, really. However, you know, when I do clear my throat, I get slightly different. Yeah, yeah. Okay, that's not bad about that. Just get standing door. You know, some go for the big war boss all the time. You kind of just want this standard voice out. Yeah, it's all about the boys. It's all about the boys. We also got Lupacall joined us. Hey, yo. Hey, how you doing, guys? You got a hard course for us or? I'm mine Avano voice. What am I? I'm like, what am I still? You never know. Okay, yeah. Okay. Well, I'm excited here at all. Yeah, we doing a mad dog, Grotsnik.

2:31This episode we're going to cover a whole bunch of little things that he got up to. Lupacall even read the book. So he was telling me before the show a couple of cool, like things. What really stood out to me kind of when doing this episode, nor notes was just orc reencar nation. And we were kind of talking about that before the show. So I can't wait to talk about that later. Let's just see some quick housekeeping. I threw myself off always with the the grubbins voice. You know, I be intro, I do. I throw myself off and I get lost, but I do feel like that is the same noise you make when you orgasm. Yeah, I'm going around the island. Yeah, start as we need to go on. We've all heard Mark orgasm now. Excellent. That is good for everyone involved, I think. And you just bring us more gas and voice so you can come join the discord. There's links in the description below. You can send a little voice clip of what you're orc orgasm voice sounds like. Because I guess that's what we're going with this. So yeah, come check out the discord. Always fun time. And if you join in the discord.

3:32Always feel free to join the Patreon, join the Imperial tide and support the show. There's an every version for just $2.50. I think that's about 20 pence and live stream version for $5. You pay more for it a decent coffee, even a half decent coffee. So come join the Imperial tide. And if you do join the Imperial tide, you can join us on the live stream. You can join us in the chat. And if you want, you can even jump in as a calling guest and be one of the boys too. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'll drop a link now. And if anyone wants to come in at some point, maybe there'll be some. Some reading and stuff that you want to show your orc voice off to. So there's a link in the chat if anyone wants to pop in. Yeah, let's talk right into this episode. We're going to be covering mad dog grotsnick, obviously. We'll set it up with just a little bit of context. Not to throw you in blind. We'll talk about orcs, some plans, specifically the desks, and the goss.

4:36And then we'll talk about pain boys and cyborgs. And with that kind of little bit of foreign knowledge, it should be should be go good to go into the main episode where we'll talk about all the different experiments that he gets up to the gaskill special. It's a fashion statement as much as a piece of armor. So that's pretty fun. We I've never heard about the corpse looters before and they're pretty cool too. That's his kind of personal plan. So talk about them a little bit. Talk about all the different things that he's resurrected from gaskill to. McCarrie. Is that what that grots name is called? Yeah, McCarrie. Sorry. Yeah. And then we'll get into his personality. Someone's war gear, some other little things and yeah, talk orc after life, I guess what happened when orcs died. Because I think mad dog grotsnick has a very good understanding of it, at least like on an intuitive level. Maybe he doesn't actually know and have words for it, but he knows how to change and cheat death. It's going to be good. It's going to be good.

5:37So let's kick off with an overview of mad dog grotsnick. Mad dog grotsnick is an orc pain boy who approaches surgery with the enthusiasm of a grot discovering a do not press button. He loves rooting through skulls, opening watch should stay closed and changing things just to see what happens. Possibly the most awkish way. As Gazgol Mac Uruk Thrakas personal doc enjoys protection few St orcs would question his methods are horrifying, but Gazgol fiercely protects him because grotsnick helped open his mind to gawk and mock. Grotsnick was once a skilled pain boy years of violence, experimentation and self surgery have transformed him into a shrieking blood soaked terror obsessed with hurting people. While insisting he is helping his madness grew alongside Gazgol whose visions eventually drove him towards some of the greatest walks in orc history.

6:42These days, Grotsnick's greatest talent is murder. In battle he becomes a screaming cyclone of blades, needles and sores, charging through the enemy whilst stabbing, slicing and amputating anything unfortunate enough to be nearby. Yet when Gazgol is wounded, the madness briefly disappears. Grotsnick becomes focused precise and frighteningly competent. Somehow beneath the insanity remains a doc capable of repeatedly saving his master's life. Mayor Doc Grotsnick is the maddest pain boy around. He loves digging in skulls, and it's a fixing thick, ain't broke. He's Gazgol's personal doc, so nobody dares touching. Grotsnick follows the great wah, carrying sores and needles, looking for more patience wherever the fighting gets loud.

7:42He used to be a proper good doc, but years of experiments made him completely bonkers. It's happening already. It's happening. It's surrographs in and I'm wrecked into boys. Just wait until I actually turn green. Now he loves hunting that while yelling that he's helping. Gazgol made him famous, and the visions Grotsnick helped unleash sent a big boss towards massive war. In battle. Just aside note, it's not held by the fact that I was there so often all weekend, therefore shouting an awful lot. In battle, Grotsnick's more murderous than Doc. He's a green whirlwind of blades, needles, sores and stabbing, charging straight into the enemy, getting shot only makes him think there's more patience nearby.

8:49But when Gazgol gets hurt, the madness stops. Grotsnick gets steady, quiet and precise. Saving his boss again. Where the inside, that lunatic, there's still a proper doc. Who knows? Excuse me. There's still a proper doc who knows exactly where to stick to an eye and how to put them back together proper when the cutting's done. Oh God. Oh yeah, fellow Grotsnick just rooting around in people's brains. Does he need this part of the brain? Scoop it out. Put a rock in instead. Works perfect every time. Throw it in a pile up if I'm. Yeah. Brain for Rock is about like for like for me. Yeah. Similar replacement. Yeah, Grotsnick is crazy. Like with Orc anatomy, you can really get up to like some wildness and not just Orc anatomy, but then we talk about like walk energy.

9:53Then you can really get up to wild things like where you can cut off Orc's arms, so on to other parts of the orcs body. It doesn't even have to be on its own arm socket. Just sew it to his back and now he's done a third on my back. Perfect. What's going on? There's an interesting thing that like you can take a weird boys eyes and put them in goggles and then see as a weird boy. And this is something that Grotsnick like discovered whilst he was like trying to figure things out. It's like why? Whoever thought of that like obviously that is like the orcs together that like from an Oxford perspective, who would have thought of trying that like when it walks through your eyes bro. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, and that's the type of stuff you can get away with. It's just so wonky and like disturbing. If you don't like body modification, this one isn't for you. That's going to say trigger warning.

10:54And speaking of wonky, if you're sewing on legs and he's in this veil of madness, you're much like in the orcar PG if you haven't listened, go back and listen, it's fantastic. You know, you could end up just limping because you have a dead leg that's just been sewn or welded onto you. Who knows? Yeah. But it still kind of works and it's it's a good friend. Yeah. What see what I love about it is they're saying is mad and crazy and he's just in this weird blur and he's just doing this thing. But he's still switched on enough to know where he needs to be when he needs to be there. Yeah, yeah. He just loves his job. I mean, like this is like pure and simply going on the perspective of like recently reading the book. And mad is very, very accurate now.

11:55Because basically what has been doing to gain intelligence of like different types of walks because like a pain boy for like the golf is actually completely different than a pain boy for like these smuggles. They have different knowledge like a beast snagging boss pairs beat snagging doc will have knowledge of squicks and how to grow them, how to implant motors on them and replace the legs with that and stuff. Maybe some more poison type knowledge. Yeah. So in the book, he accidentally runs over another pain by that's a beast snagger and takes like takes his brain and graphs it onto his own. And gives himself a split personality that he actually argues with the whole way through the book. That's brilliant. And like he's taking he was already he was mad because of his anger before that like he was essentially a bipolar rock and woman. It could be nice and calm and really caring about his patients and then the next second is flick to the stab in them through the face.

13:01Like, no, I'm going to take off your notes. And then so he's so he's followed his own madness by adding people's brains to his like he's like the greatest arc ever outside of gas school. Again, I would take that passion and it's just dedication now. If he's transplanting other pain boy brains into his own, it's just dedicated to his career. Yeah, yeah, kind of get the most out of it, you know, everyone should be a bit more mad dot grots. I don't know how I do that, but I'll think about it. I mean, it raises the question, did he enlarge in his own skull in order to fit here? Extra brain. He's a top of a skull. Nice. And then replace it with like, he replaced it with a metal plate and then like he replaced all of his skin.

14:08Nice. And then like everyone's like, you know, it looks weird over that metal plate, right? So we then like talk like a, a, a dish or basically and just went, yeah, we'll get them and off it went. Like, how can you like, it was like, yeah, it looks weird. Like his skin's sagging off of the space because it's not been stable done properly, but the complaining about like the dome on his head, like really well is like really. Passion. And then like, it's fast of the rest does they are. Yeah. Man, the orcs do have better health care than the Canadian government grants. So the Canadian government's like you can press here, have the made program. At least they're trying to stick you to another person. Right. Back. Reincarnation through combination. Yeah, let's set up, let's set up some more context here. I'm sure everyone knows what orcs are, but what will give you a little snippet anyways. Orcs are a brutal war of suspicious, whose entire culture revolves around fighting, punk, quest and endless pursuit of the biggest and loudest battle imaginable.

15:14Whenever orcs gather violence, follows. And their numbers can swell into enormous wise capable of threatening entire world. They possess a strange psychic connection that makes their crew technology function through collective belief. Hello, in Ram, shackle weapons, vehicles and machines to perform with effectiveness that should be impossible to an orc war is not tragedy on necessity. It is life itself. Sosow entertainment, status, purpose and joy. From the smallest grob to the mightiest war boss, every orc ultimately wants the same thing. A bigger fight. Orcs are war-med green skins who live for fighting, conquering and finding the biggest war possible. Their weird psychic power makes Ram, shackle guns, vehicles and machines work through orc, but we. War ain't a tragedy to an orc. It's a life, fun, status, purpose.

16:16Every grob boy, no war boss wants the same thing. A bigger orc gun and more enemies just smashed until they, nothing less standing. It's a simple life, really. Nice. It's endearing, you know. I thought the farmer on that backwater planet in Imperium, he was living the best life. No, no, I think it's the orcs always. You just get a fight, hang out with the boys. They're a fuck a squig every now and again. Nice, master. They're really, really misunderstood in a way as well, because when you get a lot of orcs together, eventually they actually do farm true society, which is really, really weird. And nobody expects it, but we've seen it multiple times over different periods in the park. The war of the beast save is when they first go to the orc planet, they have essentially recreated like terror.

17:16Like they have a massive palace and like subsequent little like areas around it for orcs to leave, and stuff like that. And they actually have like their own council, which is kind of funny. Even in the book, they actually send like civilized ambassadors to terror to warn them that if they like if they don't surrender, they're going to come to smush them in. Yeah, yeah, that is wild that they can develop like high culture like that, but then even just on like the standard orcs they have like this low culture where it's broken down into all these different clans and classes and different warrior types and all that different stuff. Like it's a very strict hierarchy really. Oh yeah, see what I love about orcs is it doesn't matter what setting you put them in, whether it's 40k, whether it's fantasy, whether it's sigma. It's all about the fight. It's all about the cramping.

18:16And it's not as if it's through lack of care or consideration. Look at Yarrick. They will keep people alive just for a good fight. Yeah, and I think and this I believe there's a similar sort of speech in some of the sigma stuff or fantasy stuff. And they're fighting dwarves and the dwarves are really a tough fight. So they're like, yeah, we like you guys. We don't hate you. We love fighting you guys. It's a good fight. I thought we were friends this whole time. You know, the fan theory that Yarrick's latest survival was actually created by the orcs like. And I guess all the need for his grad and create created a scenario that nobody would expect in a space wolf. Reast find in Yarrick pretty much dead on the floor, nearing up like to the point where he should have died.

19:19And miraculously knowing how to essentially repair in back to full health. Yeah, I'm a space. Really, the space wolf known to you me. I'm a massive fan of the fact that one of the most known characters in the Imperial Guard as a guard man as a guardsman massive fan of the fact that Sebastian Yarrick is probably only alive because the orcs like to fight him. Yeah, and I wanted to like. We talk about like the orc walk effect and how it does kind of have a small little effect on things like, you know, it can actually make their vehicles go faster. I wonder if they are super charging Yarrick by believing in him just a little bit that makes him so he's like. Well, he lived into it, didn't he? Because there were still the awkward rumors that his eyes shot lasers. So we changed his eye to shoot a laser and it's almost when you think about it, the orcs believed it and then it happened.

20:24Yeah, like he likes to pretend that he did it because he wants to strike the fear that the orcs actually believe in about him. But realistically was it actually the great green with the effect of the orcs that pushed the idea into his head anyway? I'm is hang on here. He's a real tin hat theory. I don't have my tin hats to the round from previous episodes. Is Yarrick now a cyborg? Oh, he is. Yeah, okay. I'm looking at that power claw. That's pretty cyborg is to me. He's got the power claw. He's potentially being kept alive by the belief of the orcs. They were on the line. I mean, essentially, yes, he is the only thing that like kind of puts it as a no is the fact that the additions were done by human doctors. If it had been been by a pain by then we could have definitely assume he is.

21:30Yeah, so you're telling me if mad dog got a hold of it. We won't be like trying to like put some like orcs balls with us. Well, is there operating on him and seeing what happens? No, I think my dog would have stolen his skin and tried to use his skin quite possibly. Probably used it as a k part of the career is favorite group because he just had just a loincloth. Yarrick skin is a loincloth. That dog might even blow his own face off trying to look through Yarrick's eye to see what Yarrick sees and they. Why is his own face off? Hard to say. Real twist is actually a farious. Oh, this whole time behind the eye just out there. Let's talk a little bit more about orcs society where talk about the clans or clans are the great cultural and military tribes that the by green skin society each with its own traditions appearance fighting style and ideas about what makes an orc properly orkey.

22:34The goffs are brutal close combat specialist the desk skulls are superstitious scavengers obsessed with loot and lucky blue paint. The evil sons lived for speed the bad moons are wealthy and heavily armed the snake bites claim to ancient traditions and the blood axes are usually what cunning and willing to intimidate other species. Together the clans form the cultural backbone of orc society giving green skins endless reasons to argue over which is best before settling the matter with a fist fight. Orc clans is the big drives to what make up the orc society each word and born don't away and fighting and living. The boss will like crumpling desk goes like even evil sons go fast big moons got the latsatith and dacca snake bites like the old ways and the blood axes think they clever they all argue about who's best and sell it with a big proper orkey fight.

23:34Yeah. I think I like my grubbins voice more than my my orc voice. The higher pitches is yeah it's more close to my normal voice so why need annoying and high pitch so perfect. Yeah so clans we were mentioning the beast nagers are they a clan or are they like an off to kind of forget. It's a bit weird because they're not like a big clan but more like a tribe sort of thing. It's weird to explain I'm still trying to get my head around it to be honest with you because it's like. Like how do you look at speed freaks. I think you know I mean it's the same thing so they can be associated with a clan but like they're like speed freaks or. The what's the other one that's obsessed with flying.

24:34There's like a small group of like yeah the fly boys are like super obsessed with flying even though there's like the storm boys that do the same thing with the fly boys take it to that next level. Yeah okay yeah so they it's almost like yeah it's like a specialization. Yeah yeah. And like you've got you're going to have all war bands whatever groups of orcs that float between everyone I mean look at the free boot is that work with any and anyone. So long as I get to try to get quite a lot of the people like redundant arcs from the other than like discarded from clans and stuff like that so it kind of makes sense. So long as they get to do what they love. And I mean we're making it so all society is becoming more and more appealing. If I like you one day. Yeah you say that I started off like like head diving into chaos because like I love shit like that and like I think I'm going to do my biggest down this.

25:47Yes. And then the new arcs things come out next week well they're going pre-order next week and I've already put my order in it like 400 pound. Nice well okay good now yeah. I mean that's only one model but yeah that's yeah that's just the special edition gas cool book. Nice. So we'll start with the death skulls. The death skulls are the orcs greatest scavengers thieves and enthusiastic collectors of anything they believe might be useful valuable or simply worth stealing. They have a particular talent for finding abandoned technology stripping it from the battlefield and immediately bolting it onto something completely unsuitable. Death skulls are infamous for their belief in luck painting themselves and their equipment blue because blue is considered lucky among orcs.

26:47They're kleptomaniackel habits make them invaluable when an orc army neat ammunition spare parts vehicles or anything else that can be acquired without paying for it. To a death skull there is no such thing as stealing. There was only finding something that somebody else was foolish enough to leave unattended. So there was always a little saying in the army between units if it's not tied down it's yours. Yeah yeah yeah. So the death skulls are scavengers thieves and professional finders of stuff that aren't days that loot battlefields the weapons ammo, vehicles and spare bits then bolt them onto whatever looks useful. They paint themselves blue because blue is lucky. A death skull don't steal anything or just find stuff somebody else was stupid enough to leave behind.

27:48Yeah and this becomes important to know about death skulls because our boy mad doc is a death skull. So we're talking about loot and then just taking things and just everything is now on the table for well now it's off the table because they took it all but he just will loot everything and come up with the wildest type of poor creations. I mean it's a table. I would say his table is take everything that's not nailed down then take the nails and then take every if we know see me. And then nail it to an orc. Pretty much so long as it painted blue. Yeah exactly. That's cool that like the different pain boys do have a different flavor depending on what plan they're from like yeah that makes sense like you know where if you got a got a pain boy he might be way more violent and brutal his surgeries where it's like I'm going to rip your whole body and replace your whole half a body you know it's like very just brutal.

28:51I'm going to just give you big arms and big guns like simple and effective. Well, I can't. Yeah sorry I can imagine a death skull pain boy like adding something to you that you know you've lost. But after he's done that he's going to take something else. Yeah that's right I've replaced you like however I have just taken your lower left arm. It's very traded to food. Yeah. I mean also mentioned in gospel. This is not nipple belt. No nipples on the orcs so no nipple belts for them sadly. The gospel mentioned as well just to set up some context because we will be talking about gas kill a lot and he's a got and even though. Mad doc is a death skull he does hang around with a lot of golfs it seems like he hangs out with them more often than his own kind of plan so set that up to the

29:52next two. The golfs are the largest and toughest and most brutally straight forward of the orc plans. They have little patience for flashy disputes or elaborate tricks believing that the best solution to almost any problem is hit harder. Goss favorite close combat above all else and take immense pride in their strength toughness and willing to charge directly into the enemy. Their warriors are commonly enormous heavily armed and armed and eager for the sort of brutal melee that turns battlefields into mountains of corpses. The boss subtlety is usually another word for not hitting something yet. Not hitting it yet. Okay. The culture embodies the raw violent heart of orc warfare. Get stuck in. Keep swinging and never stop looking for a bigger fight. The gods are amongst the beast and the toughest being a story around. This episode is brought to you by chat GPT.

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32:07Thanks, Robbins. Yeah, the gods are just like your stereotypical orc boy pretty much. It's perfect summary. It's great intro to orcs. However, from a painting aspect, it's not the best one to start with. Wow. What do you mean? There's every sign in like a black is just no. I do like on the on the new models from the Armageddon box that because they assume someone's going to try and paint them. God. They actually put the checker on in light actually on the sculpt on the top of the flag. So you don't have to pay it by hand. Ironically, it's just as much of a bitch to pay it because they didn't do the recess as deep enough. Yeah.

33:08No, to me, they are the stereotypical. These are the orcs. Yeah, great summary. So pain boys get specific. Pain boys are the orcs answer to medicine combining crude surgery, cybernetics and an almost complete disregard for patient safety. Armed with tools, drills, syringes, bone crushing tools and whatever other instruments they have collected. Pain boys patch wounded orcs back together so they can return to the fighting. The methods of brutal but by orc standards, surprisingly effective. Pain boys can replace limbs and with machinery, instill by onyx, extract bullets and perform increasingly horrifying modifications. Most and while arguing that screaming is simply evidence that the operation is working. To a pain boy, the orc body is lesser sacred than an interesting machine that can always be opened, repaired and improved.

34:10Pain boys are all medics with soles, drills, syringes and no concern for patient safety. They patch boys up, replace limbs, instill by onyx and perform whatever surgery gets them back fighting. Screaming means that operation is working. To the pain boy, an orc body is just a machine that can always be opened, repaired or improved. Very cool. I have never seen this pain boss model before. So he's fucking tight. He's new. He's one of the new guys from the Armageddon Boxer, believe. And now that's one of the recent ones. How is he coming? Yeah, he is meant to be like halfway between a normal and a beast's neighbor so that people can like sort of keep bashing either way. Nice. And he's just interesting. Yeah, he's wild.

35:11And you can see how clean that orc surgery tends out being. You just rip off the arms, shove some rods in there. Easy peasy. For a figure sculpting aspect, it's genius. But because you can go wild and for kit bashing and the hobby side of thing, they go right. Yeah, they're so cool. So they're going to cybox, one of my favorite new things that I recently found out about. Yeah, cybox are orcs who have been extensively rebuilt with mechanical parts, either because they suffer catastrophic injuries or because they simply decided that having more metal inside them sounded like a good idea. Limbs, jaws, organs and entire sections of body can be replaced with crude but powerful machinery, transforming the arc into something that. It's part warrior and part walking work, you know, accident. Many side bucks embrace their mechanical nature, treating their argumentation as trophies of battle and proof of their toughness.

36:18Others simply enjoy being hard to kill their appearance very wildly but I'll share the same essential philosophy is something gets blown off. But something bigger back up. Yeah. Side bugs are orcs rebuilt with machinery toe after terrible injuries or cost they want and more metal inside. Limbs, jaws, organs and all body parts get replaced with crude but mechanical but powerful bionics. They wear their metal like trophies and proof of all toughness. So if something gets blown off, just bulk something bigger back on in it. And it's a great philosophy because it's like it's not like bolt something back on that looks like the similar shape or function of what you lost. It's like if you're looking at our livestream, we got this orc tracked body guy here. It's genius. It's amazing.

37:18Side bugs a while. Like I wish they had a unit of it somehow. I know you can put like cyborg upgrades down and get like a five plus in one. You have this crazy kind of squad where you could just make the wildest orcs. Yeah. Yeah. It's for me, it's like kids cartoon drawing. It's too extreme. It's great. I mean, I really want to see and I will give massacudos because I have no money to anyone on the discord that posts a picture of an inspected gadget themed orc. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just need to tell a telescopic magnet. So just take over the back of the bottle off and just use that. Did it. Yeah. Another great cyborg here. This one's like fully fully bionic.

38:21Like at what point did it a robot now? Like how much of that work needs to remain? Is it just the brain? Maybe not even. It's a it's an interesting thing when you think about it because it's not just pain boys that can make cyborgs or do like the graph sense to play that because they can also graph things on to themselves which you think would just be like a you need a pain by far, but they seem to be able to just do it as well. So I think they are. Yeah, I guess it's like a pain boy can do the surgery, but he can't make the machine, you know, with a mech boy can make the machine and that's easy. The orc anatomy will pretty much do the surgery for you. Yeah. My favorite favorite one of that one is from the brutal coming series with the buffing he gets his legs blown off.

39:21Put himself a monowheel on and then in the next book they end up in comura and he ends up stealing Drew carry anti-grave technology and making himself a float in plate instead. Nice. Nice monowheel or. Yeah, nice. There is one. He's a gophe is just they're almost wrapped at Allen legs. You can just go all out on your imagination. It's it's great. Yeah, man. Yeah, so I've worked very cool. I will get back to mad doc now that we got some of these contacts. So come up. The episode so yeah, we'll start with his history and see where it takes us. Gratznik began as a skilled pain boy whose career changed forever when gas kill arrived in his operating room with a ruined skull and a brain that required immediate containment.

40:21Gratznik replaced the damage bone with adamantium and when gas kills subscript. I hate that word rose to become one of the greatest orc warbosses in history. Gratznik reputation exploded alongside him. The resulting demanded for the resulting demanded for a service that made him wealthy and influential. But his increased increasingly dangerous experiments eventually provoke the nobs and to attempting to murder him left for dead with his skull open by a death dread saw. Gratznik was dragged back to the operating room by a scratch and nurses and somehow resurrected after a pitily dying during that night. Whatever sanity remained in him did not survive the experience. From then onward, surgeries became increasingly bizarre. His experiments increasingly dangerous and his fascination with orc body increasingly personal. Gratznik began creating grotesque graphs experimenting with squig bit brains, constructing biological monstrosities and eventually amputating his own limbs purely to keep his surgery skills sharp.

41:24Yeah, that's nice. Gratznik used to be a proper good pain boy to graze here came along came with it is skull is all busty open in his brain sloshing about. Gratznik stuck on an adamantium in it and when gas gear became a great warboss Gratznik got famous too. But then the nobs tried to kill him they got open his head with a death dread but the grachin dragged him back and somehow he alive again. After that Gratznik went completely bonkers he started grafting bits on orcs and sticking skin with brains in them making them horrible new creatures and even going off his own limbs just for that practice. Nice. I kind of get it like if your grot has just dragged you away and brought you back you're going to be a bit pissed off. Yeah, we get into this or a little bit later in the episode of him actually getting resurrected. It's wild. I don't spell it yet, but it's quite the ordeal.

42:34The resurrection with his grots a bit weird. The grot does like it's not like he wins him back from a new grot he just like starts naming another grot after his like they brought and they gain its knowledge while still keeping their own personality. So wild. Yeah. Yeah, like it's like weird like psychic transfer of knowledge somehow or something. Yeah, it's weird to like how there were just so many questions but because it's orcs we can't question it because it just works. Just go with it is my answer. It's weird because a lot of the orcs stuff is actually based on real science theory. You've got to understand that theory to end you and like when you compare like holy shit. Yeah, even like even like the course games and stuff like that it's all about recognition with like how people recognize colors quicker and stuff like that. That's why red is going faster because it's one of the cause that you identify quicker.

43:47Yeah, one of the ones that you recognize slower that's where the joke of the purple art is going from because they're out there. I'm sure I've read a story where there was a purple art. It was just like slowly creeping about when it could be seen but it was like hiding in the darkness and it took them a few seconds. What? Oh, what's that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's why you have red warning labels and things like that. And we appear to have lost my. Oh, is he? Oh, grubbing his back. Yeah, it's quite the storm down in Panama. Sorry. Fair enough. Well, let's look at Grotsnik's beginnings now. You're now you've returned. Grotsnik started as an ordinary pain boy on earth, which was presumably unfortunate for everyone nearby. His career changed forever when gas gold took a bolt around directly to the head. Most docs might have declared the patient dead. Grotsnik instead removed the damage goal replaced it with a substantial lump of adamantium.

44:52And apparently considered the procedure a roaring success. The operation somehow opened gas goals mind to gawk and walk beginning his rise to pat towards becoming the greatest war boss of the age. Grotsnik rose with him naturally taking credit where possible. He even tried turning gas gold into his personal pet project killing McCurry whenever the irritating gretchen interfered. Unfortunately, McCurry kept coming back. Grotsnik started as a pain boy on earth to gas girl took a bolt or in his head. Most docs were calling dead but Grotsnik ripped off the busted skull stuck on some adenam adamantium and killed it good surgery. Then gas gold started hearing gawk and malk become a big war boss and Grotsnik got famous too. Grotsnik even tried making gas gold is own pet project. But McCurry took getting the in the way.

45:55Grotsnik killed to grow plenty of time but the little get get coming back. Yeah, it's just fun little thing like isn't the same or do they care to memorize which grot they keep sitting on and killing. They think it's the same guy eventually I think we do get confirmation like that they are resurrecting more kind like we said his knowledge comes back into his body and stuff but. So McCurry is a very very interesting grot because there is he has the hand of gas gold imprinted on his body which at one point gas gold basically put his hand on his shoulder and this event happened where as hamper and said on to McCurry. So they know it's McCurry every time because the hamper and always emerges once like that grot becomes McCurry.

47:01There's also this thing of him always carry in this banner which you can see in the image and whenever McCurry wields that banner the ox around him feel empowered as if gas gold is empowering them himself. In the gas gold book there's a period where like gas gold doesn't want McCurry around and when he dies he doesn't come back and the other ox around gas gold actually request McCurry to be resurrected like because he always comes back. They like because it's up to a certain period he was always coming back that the ox knew that somehow gas gold was resurrected. They didn't know how it was it just happened and he in the middle of a battle reached down grabbed a random grot and went, oh McCurry they want you.

48:11And all of a sudden this grot won McCurry instantly and then he went through a period where gas gold kept resurrecting him but McCurry didn't want to be resurrected he didn't want to be near gas gold so he keeps killing himself in like these ludicrous ways and it goes on par it's a it's a round a year of like McCurry consistently throwing himself into danger and like taking gas gold like a month to decide which one is going to break. Which what is going to bring back as McCurry and the whole time this banner has been carried around by a normal orc waiting for McCurry to return to giving back the banner and the whole time is being getting shot and blown up and is replaced different bits of metal onto the banner and like restitched it with the material is found and it's such a great thing for such a little character. Yeah, yeah, the only orc that ever gets a name and they like rally behind them like with the only grot I mean yeah, I love the fact that McCurry and gas gold are basically an old married couple.

49:22Like they just need I need a few days away from you can you just not bring me back please. Yeah, and then what maddox or therapist or what. Pretty much I would go without a like neighbor. Yeah breaking into your dealership. I mean it be the weirdest therapy ever you go like every time gas gold does go under the knife of my dog he really was a little bit of his brain and that's how he opens him up to the great green a bit more. Because every time he gets injured in some way that part of them gets exposed to the great green and like that's how he heals it's literally the great green. And he's blowing into him and healing him so when he does it to his brain he gets a higher connection to the great green because that's blowing into his brain and that's how he creates the connection like a deeper connection to go or come off.

50:27Yeah, yeah, because that's ultimately what that that surgery did like grots Nick is almost like a minor character to gas kill and like you he kind of just push gas kill on his path and then he does a bunch of his own stuff but like yeah he was almost like. That the side character front there's not one gas there's not one gas gold but where my doctor does not get a mention at some point in the book yeah yeah he's also a very big. Yeah, but it's big enough to lean his own clan like own minor clan get his own book but it's also a minor character in practically every gas balls book even he even has like passages dedicated to him like throughout the books yeah. And Macari hates him with a passion. He I get that because between Macari and Mad Dog and grots Nick it's like the wife and the side piece.

51:33Yeah, it kind of really is basically Macari thinks that the docs doing it to control gas. Go not to open it up to the great green so it basically turns into a little jealous bitch at one point it's kind of funny. It's actually it's kind of modern funny because at the time the story's being told by Macari. To the inquisition being translated by another or that can speak human. Perfect translation. And there's actually a mini argument between Macari the guy that's translating and the inquisitive like in a little three way because he's been like at the start has been like editing it sort of thing in it and Macari can't understand English. He just can't speak it well can understand whatever human language is speaking but can't speak it or it makes out again.

52:36Yeah, what is a sneaky little get. So let's move on to gas go. Gas go Maguruk Thracka is one of the most powerful and infamous arcs arc war bosses in the galaxy. How a towering golf whose ambition extends far beyond the conquest of a single world after surviving a bolt around through the skull and receiving an adamant replacement from Mad doc Grotsnik. Gas will begin experience ambitions and messages from the art gods go. Come on convince that he had been chosen for something greater he gathered all beneath his banner and launched enormous was across the galaxy. Gas go is not merely interested in winning battles he seeks the ultimate war one blast enough to unite the arcs and drown the galaxy beneath an endless green tide. Gas go is one of the wiggies biggest world bosses ever Grotsnik fixed a bolt of blasted Ed with adamantium then gas started even caught a mook.

53:46Now he leads a massive war across the galaxy looking for the biggest war ever in the off orcs to drown everything in green. Again simple philosophy very simple drown it in green but why cause it's the best because it's not green enough. Yeah simple philosophy. Yeah. It's a great cause of green and an ox a great so green is great and the great green has got to be great because I'll see green and great. It's great. Literally the perfect philosophy. I like this old Macari banner here it's so like not orkey but it's just funny to see it's so old and like even gas kills old banner here it looks like this like three arm gene seal at or he's got like three different guns up pretty fun.

54:54It's like a medieval drawing of somebody who's like draw horse and medieval times they draw this weird thing second work trying to draw an orc. Yeah I do like how overtime if you look at the different Macari models the banner gets a little more damaged each time. Yeah yeah then it gets kind of. Yeah very cool. So we'll talk about the gas kill special. If you look at all gas Kelly's got that adamantium metal plate. So this was got six grotsnick signature skull replacement and adamantium cranium modeled after the one he fitted to gas kill after the future war boss up at a devastating head wound. Once gas goes power began the metallic skull became wildly fashionable among his dogs who eagerly sought to sought the same procedure. Grotsnick was delighted by the man seeing as it was both a lucrative opportunity and an excellent way to experiment with the orc brain naturally his definition of customer service included secretly installing explosives inside their new skulls just in case or not just why not I have some lying around might as well use.

56:05The gas kill special is got to next favorite famous adamantium edge of the law of them so grotsnick start handing them out like they were fancy hats. Of course he also stuck explosives inside them just in case one of those customers got all happy. I mean who doesn't need some C4 next to the cerebral cortex. Yeah, yeah, just smush it in there. Yeah, yeah, I mean Pete you know stuff like some sex pee for you can manipulate it. It's all good. You just get one of those like rollers that you get from hobby shops to like put the pattern of the brain in. Perfect. So McCarrie who is swiftly turning into one of my favorite or characters. McCarrie began as one of mad dot mad dot grotsnicks orderly learning quickly that survival meant staying away from the sharp tools eventually becoming mad gas goals legendary Gretchen standard bearer McCarrie has survived countless situations that should have reduced him to paste.

57:22Because repeatedly killed him when he interfered with his plans for gas goal only for McCarrie to somehow return in another body. Despite his tiny stature McCarrie has become an unlikely symbol of gas goes wall having the great banner while somehow surviving everything the galaxy throws it in. McCarrie started as one of grotsnicks grits in orderly learning fast to sharp tools is best avoided later he became gas goals banner waving get grotsnick killed him lots of times but McCarrie kept coming back in new bodies waving to panor and being an annoying little get. Oh McCarrie yes they start off as grotsnicks little orderly and kind of moved away from that. I find it like for some reason my head i'm imagining McCarrie but in full scrubs just he's the single orderly in the room and he's just white nice and clean he's holding his hands up like surgeons do after they've scrubbed up.

58:39I've just got that image. I'll throw that in the chatbot here and we'll see what it comes up with give me a minute. I mean the grot orderly output is like what they call have musk which is literally just a bandana over their mouth and like some sort of apron whether it be only covering the way star like full front. And then they just run around with like knives and scissors and all sorts of silly things hoping not to get squished whilst grotsnicks doing surgery. I mean I would say it's quite good advice to you stay clear with the sharp things if there's a mad guy around. Yeah yeah yeah I think it's sound advice. I mean you know like his name actually means grot killer don't you?

59:42Like the way that they are seeing his name is associated with killing grots yeah of course yeah no that's just clicked. I don't really just click that's the point. Doctor's code on our little guy. Doctor, I'll see you. That's amazing. Perhaps that's what doc is actually trying to prevent is McCarrie is medical license right? No Archimedes school for you. High of power. Grotzenic surgery was already unpopular but gas balls protection meant nobody was stupid enough to complain directly. So only drowning in customers Grotzenic oh look over the wealthy knobs queuing outside his tent and experience what he considered a brilliant medical revelation.

1:00:50Everyone needed a better head. He convinced the richest nubs that the procedure which save gas goal could make them tougher to what he neglected to mention was the small quantity of high explosive installed inside each metal quenium. He also neglected to mention the remote detonator business boom whenever a nub and I dem grotzenic simply pressed a button and it's usually asked to lead demonstrated by patients should always follow the docs instructions. Eventually the nubs discovered the truth and decided grotzenic required an appointment of his own they're letting down a malfunctioning towards the dog malfunctioning death dread where the machine seized him with the pizza and sword open to his head. His question order is what's the master apparently died then recognized an exciting professional opportunity they grabbed grotzenic back to the medical center they operated on his exposed brain through the night during which one unfortunate grotzenic.

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1:02:51agent location restrictions apply product availability varies by market see fendel dot com for eligibility gambling problem call 1 800 gm. The day is several from all sides. Being dragged stage stapled and otherwise prevented from remaining dead. The experience did not improve him not the plan is really so is the light is brain has been bombarded on its eyes she's in on it is a hole in it is that this has something else is it's that's also the fact that he was dragged back to the tent with head exposed so it's very well with dirty and great. The picking glass out of his brain well is while the working. Gratznika will consider a really madder and immediately denigred every explosive gradient in the camp well dancing beneath the moonlight from then on with his experiments became even less compatible with conventional medical practice.

1:03:59He began replacing his own limbs with those belonging to unwilling downwards and swapping patient brains but lives livesquakes apparently reasoning that patients personality was on this and on this and on this and on. This is an unnecessary luxury. Rumors spread that Gratznika was constructing a gigantic composite super arc from organs limbs and other body parts detonated by because donated by customers who perhaps misunderstood the meaning of medical consent. His personal death school what band the cops looters accompanies him on his rampages enthusiastically collecting bodies machinery and anything else Gratznika consider consider medically interested. They loot with complete impunity believing behind battlefields that resemble both a massacre and especially ambitious operating theatre without gas balls patronage Gratznika would most certainly have been murdered long ago.

1:04:59Instead he remains free to practice medicine improve his patients and discover increasingly creative ways to prove that death is merely a temporary convenience. I'm trying to be careful this way. Yes, then I've started wanting Gratznika's fancy metalheads so he happily gave them out. He didn't mention the explosives inside. If a dog got mouthy Gratznika pressed a button and he said go boom. The nubs eventually caught on and tracked Gratznika with a deaf dread. It grabbed him and sawed open his head. The Gretchen dragged him back where they tried fixing him. One got puked in his skull, a spider crawled inside and Gratznika died several times before they shot him alive. It made him worse. Gratznika woke up completely bonkers and blew up on the nubs while dancing under the moon.

1:06:07After that he started grafting stolen nubs onto himself, sticking squig brains in orcs and building giant super orcs from body ports. The corpse looters follow him around collecting bodies and useful bits. Gaskell keeps him safe so Gratznika can keep practicing his medicine. Very cool. What a wild story. It gets vomited on. There's a spider still living up there. But ultimately it just takes him over the edge and turns him into truly insane. Definitely that I guess to you a couple of times. Good thing he gets operated on by Gratz and then goes this is a good idea. I'm going to carry him operating on myself. Maybe it's better if I do it to myself. I don't even care if I'm unconscious. I just love the idea that for me, at least for me, within these moments of clarity, it's almost as if like sheer will has just nope.

1:07:12I've got to put that to one side. I don't care about the spider like almost as if brain itself is just like I'm going to push the spider to one side. Ignore it. It's not there. But then he starts creating like super orcs and super cyborgs and stuff and he found his own little clan called the corpse looters. The corpse looters death skulls war band answered directly to pain boss Gratznik which is unfortunate for absolutely everyone involved. These pain boys and free booties charge in the battle enthusiastically creating a respectable pile of corpses before beginning the real work collecting the dead and wounded for Gratznik's experiments. Meet Wagon's hall, the unfortunate specimens back to his medical tent where cyborgs and grotesquely modified creatures called stitch boys are assembled repaired and rearranged and generally subjected to Gratznik's enthusiastic interpretation of medicine.

1:08:15The corpse looters are Gratznik's death skull lands following them into battle and collecting their bodies for his experiments. They smashed up first then they hold it dead away and wounded back in the meat wagons. The looters also look for Gratznik's star books and it's the weirdest creations or the stitch boys. I just imagine orcs walking around a camp just bring out your dead bring out if they're not dead bring out anything. I mean the good thing about it's a good thing about if you loot in dead bodies is there's always going to be dead bodies around right and don't really going to care if you loot a few or all of them. It's just there for the taking really. The ultimate body to loot for the corpse looters be Macaries.

1:09:19No, because it's not really that useful because it's still kind of small. Yeah, but would Gratznik like out of spite just use Macarie for something completely useless. It's just going out of pure entertainment you would operate on it but it won't really do anything to improve it. Literally just open it up see what medium ticker then just throwing back in a pile and see if you're really carnated on his own. Just at each time add a different insect to his brain. Yeah, the most likely thing is it'll put a track on it track or in him so we know where he is. So we can crack gas cool without Owens. Right on which I think he already has done that. Just a big flashing light on top of his head. So the stitch boys are Gratznik's proudest biological disasters. Grotesquely grafted and customized from whatever limbs organs and other useful bits he can acquire.

1:10:23These unfortunate masterpieces serve with within decorbs looters. Marching into battle as living evidence of their docks genius. Gratznik considers every stitch body a successful experiment. The stitch boys are Gratznik's favourite custom made monsters built from stolen limbs organs and whatever have a bit he finds useful. They march into battle as proof that Gratznik's surgery works which mostly means they're still alive. That's nice, that's nice. So it is a gas kill almost a stitched boy you know he had his whole head stitched on to a completely different works body. Well if gas coal is a successful surgery like a genuinely successful surgery and the stitch boys of Grotesqu and like cyborgs except cyborgs are accepted.

1:11:31How bad does this have to be? I'm almost picturing like the rat auger in from AOS. See if I can pull a picture of that. Okay here we go. Pretty good task. Just green. Or sits toys from toy story. The thing with gas coal is all his injuries eventually get healed with the grey green and it's the worst he has his like scars on his body. There's no real actual evidence that is actually being worked on it. It's like a bunch of faded scars. The only real obvious one is obviously is replaced skull because that's exposed. Yeah. Man I kind of want to buy some of these and turn them into work stitch boys now that would be the move.

1:12:34I've just got a bunch of rat orens from the age of sigma spearhead magazine. I was really thinking of doing like a toxic waste sort of theme like bright bright greens and black. Yeah, like black for bright bright green skin. Bright green yeah yeah okay. You slap like a he slapped an orca on one of those rat auger and what's the scale like? They are about the same size as a. If the new box boys something like the nubs once. Yeah. Yeah. I was doing like a mutated.

1:13:35And to be fair I wouldn't put it past grotsnakes put something completely out of scale. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking about yeah putting a grots body amputate them at the hips stitch that onto an orcs. Head replacements you got like an extra to arms now. I mean, it did put up basically a buck of mandos head onto a squig. And give it like for the arms or something. It's got to be a good gas challenge. Thank you. I think it's comical that what they've done for art is they've made it so arcs of kick bashing themselves in the like in the universe. And what and like everyone's like they're like damn grotsnakes got some right kit bashing is why can't you make these little mud?

1:14:36Yeah, yeah, that's an in universe statement to right for sure. It's in oxygen down again. It's GW double nerding with this. It's small like inception nerd and it really so yeah, it's a good one. It's that he yeah, I know you said my powers were evaver of characters and honestly eat like it was when I read the gas school books but like the more I've read of rocksnickels just like yeah. There's him the main the main freeboot are out of the brutal cutting books and the guy is the main arc out of the new freeboot was code book that all brilliant. Like they're really really well written and it's hard to pick a favorite and I've got like one more art book that haven't read which I own and I'm like is this going to give me another art that I want in my collection.

1:15:45Like the is it now that now drag is coming to a model like I'm getting. He's already been all the right. I read about bullets which is gas kills second and command and I'm never him for. Yeah, I it doesn't really show up in the books that much that is like it sort of like just gets sent off on these like random missions is like essentially like his head commando. You don't really like come across in that much in the books that there's another one was like a squad of them. Of commandos and like the dropsnic book is the first time I'd heard of like seeing them actually appear in the books and I've heard about them from law but not like really seen anything of them.

1:16:48But like each of them a bit like a unique skill like like sneaking and hacking and that is really like it's like how they do like the death walk to better in squad so each one's got a speciality like very much like that and like kind of make me giggle because one of them get killed and combined with a squig. They make for the perfect kill team right. They're literally an art I think actually isn't they are an art kill team and it's named something slightly different. Yeah, so yeah they are called command those are the kill team. Yeah, they are stunning. Yeah, it's a nice little box. I think commandos might be one of the ones that is going into normal from being a kill team. They've done it with I think they've just moved eight boxes from kill team to normal and they're going to replace them with another eight.

1:17:56Yeah, that'll be interesting with it's all but those eight have also replaced some of the replace actually replace sculpt that were already existing like the raptors one so there's now to wrap the sculpt so that you can get that are like classes normal raptors. Yeah, like you see old or command kit and yeah, yeah, so this one's now kind of getting replaced with the kill team. Yeah, okay, this one was cool though though a knob in this squad was tight like you either cool bionic arm and like smoking a cigar is pretty cool guy. Yeah, that that's something that's brought up in the book actually because they're all stuck there with like cigars and it's like where'd you get that? It's like talking off of you mean it. Good off of you me. All right, well let's go. I like how it was brought on this back.

1:18:57Backtrack right? Yeah, I like it. Armageddon. Armageddon was a sort of place. Mad duck brought a snake and only dream of endless war and almost casualties and more wounded orbs than any same pain by could possibly treat. Go gas goes invasion taught across the world got brought snake established himself among the carnage happily rumble into the aftermath for interesting patients useful body parts and anything else that might improve his experiments. Whilst other orcs saw amigur as a battlefield to conquer brought some extra gigantic operating there. Every destroy tank provided scrap every fall or more provided replacement parts and every badly wounded art represented another opportunity to discover just how much surgery and art could survive.

1:19:57Armageddon was perfect for got snake war everywhere. Lads all wounded orcs and plenty of spare body parts. Well, guys go for for the planet rocks Nick from each room to wreckage looking for the good patients and useful bits every hour or spare parts every wreckage was scrap and every wound to get was another chance to find out how much surgery and art could survive. Nice just his little playground. He doesn't really have like military goals you know like his goals are like he wants bodies to play around with and he'll go and raid and take bodies and whatever but like you know he might go and raid a fortress and then just take the 50 bodies these leaves and then like leave the rest of the people there you only needed 50. And like they'll be scratching ahead like why the fuck do you leave us and what the heck was that all about because yeah it's all about the surgery for him. It's like the free boot or death.

1:20:58Free boot of death yeah. In the reviving. Yeah very cool. Then he becomes a part of the great wall when gas kill starts that off so when gas kill march away from arm again and grotsnic naturally followed because enormous wars produced enormous piles of extremely useful patients as gas kill crushes his rival war bosses and absorb and absorbs their armies. Grotsnic prowls through the carage casualties enthusiastically selecting the most interesting survivors for further treatment rival pain boys are especially valuable grotsnic simply bully them into becoming his or at least and those who object may reportedly receive the prestigious promotion to a brain bought. This involves removing the brains and putting them inside of machine. And by preserving their medical knowledge while eliminating the irritating problem of having an opinion all this occurs amid the great green wall.

1:21:58The brain wall the enormous galaxy spanning campaign unleashed by gas kill it is the greatest or quagg seen in 8,000 years rivaled only by the legendary armies of the beast the sheer numbers of orcs gathering around gas kill has begun producing catastrophic psychopets across the whole of the whole of the world. The collective madness of countless mad boys has generated psychic wave powerful enough to ripple through the galaxy. Every warp sense of the being in the imperial can feel it the immaterial shutters with the psychic noise of millions of orcs screaming fighting laughing and preparing for violence. And the giant beacon broadcasting one you resistable message across the stars gas kill is calling and every or capable of hearing him is coming. Grotsnic naturally considers this wonderful news for his patients list. When I make one gas kill left arm Academy grats leave followed because big wars mean lots of patients as gas crashes rival war bosses gratsnic picks through the casualties by the good specimens rival pain boys get forced into the brain orderlies who any get who complains get forced into the brain bought.

1:23:15The great war is the biggest orc war. Grats turning into a man he's hitting puberty a little bit. There's so many of the other grats in and their psychic noise it's spreading across the galaxy millions of orcs screaming fighting making war shake. And every warp sense of the get can feel it it's like a great beacon calling every orc towards gas kill. Gratsnic sees one thing more patients. Man cool so they've kind of change gas kills more or maybe not changed more like advanced it quite a lot where I used to always complain like you tell me the most famous orc in the galaxy can't even take one fucking planet of arm again in like big bad gas kill can't take that but like now he's actually going out into the galaxy and he actually is kind of like he's he's intentionally put Armageddon aside it wasn't his treasure in the first place in the care about it and now he has the great wall gets like calling so many orcs it's creating almost like this

1:24:23and it's getting bigger more people are hearing about it because it's bigger which draws more orcs in because they know it's going to be the biggest fight. It's just going to you know snowball yeah there's some great crumpling on Armageddon. Even if he didn't take the planet yeah he didn't take the planet they were just you know limbering up really yeah yeah and then this whole psychic beacon that's pretty damn scary. Yeah man like you know imperial psych is a feeling that yeah like it just is one of those things now when psychers go into it to the to the war for whatever with their mind they're going to either hear tear and it's orcs just yell in the screeching. Like it's just flooded with these violent hungry beings now. I mean just imagine the discipline required like you've got weird British Cockney-esque accent you know screams just chance whatever you've got this weird biological screeching and all you're trying to do is like send a funny meme to your mate.

1:25:41Yeah just to be able to cut through all the chatter yeah all of this is very yeah it's wicked. Yeah it's probably even worse for some of the telepusts because they're also out there bus screaming at them because they can't get the message of us. Another voice. And dad is always yelling too. And then there's there also the possibility that it's in should might be trying to change the message whilst the project in it. Oh so I might be trying to lure them into the war. No slantish is probing you. You're part of you. See the probing you are trying to lure you into some sort of sexy death crop. Either way I'm down. Right? Sign me up. Great green frog. Leave it a take it sexy slantish. Alan. Unless you get to Grotsnick first and he doesn't work on you and then you get the sir.

1:26:45Who knows who knows unless perhaps actually it is ultimately a slanesh trick because he wants to lure you to Grotsnick. So he turns you into in effect a living deal though. How wonderful. What a wonderful thought he's come up with. There you go. There we go. So let's move on. Brother Swift. Bloody lovely. So, primarious Marines. After the gr... You can't do anything 40k without at least mentioning a Marine. So, once the great rift opened, Grotsnick led pain boys, cyborgs and modified kilacans in an assault upon us upon a silver Templar strike cruiser. Several primarious space Marines would capture the life, providing Grotsnick with enormous heavily armored specimens for experimentation. What happened next is best left medically unrecorded.

1:27:50Oh, the kit bashing. It's happening again. After the great rift opened, Grotsnick led pain boys, cyborgs and custom kilacans onto a silver Templar ship. They grabbed some primarious lad to live, giving Grotsnick big armored test subjects. What happened next? I'm fit for the medical records. What do we think he got up to with these? Do you think he was doing experiments onto the primarious or was he taking primarious parts and giving it to the orcs? I think it's two ways to treat. Sure. I think he's going both ways. I may let me call him B. Yeah, I can imagine him taking the brain stem of an orc and just implanting that in the primarious body. I can also see him taking the primarious gene seed components and trying to stick him in an out too.

1:28:54Yeah, and then you get like orcs that are. Yeah. Yeah, that could be there's definitely something there like if somebody really got created with another type of army like. Grotsnick has created a couple like stitch boys, cyborgs and then whatever these primarious orcs could be or whatever. There's a couple great kit fashion concepts here. Perhaps he heard them being called primarious and now he's trying to recreate primal. Oh, yeah, okay. Okay. Just just an idea. My ability logical format doc but I'm here for it. Yeah, who knows. Cool. Resurrection. After Ragnar Blackman killed gascule at Krunga. Grotsnick was faced with an appalled in medical problem. His favorite patient was dead working with bullets, Thurak a seconding command.

1:29:56He resurrected McCarrie once again and explain that this was the same Gretchen who had served gascule before. McCarrie and Grotsnick despised each other naturally. But both understand the profit needed for storage. They recovered gascule's cults where upon Grotsnick, who's the aesthetically disembled it and bolted the pieces onto a gigantic suit of armor. This was not a surgery so much as a cult based engineering. Then Grotsnick activated a power generator suspended between the material and the material firing a colossal beam of green lightning directly into the assembled remains. There was a fall in five channels. The procedure would destroy half the planet. Grotsnick apparently considered this in acceptable complication. Somehow the operations exceeded. Gascule rose again considerably larger, considerably angrier and presuming presumably delighted to discover that his duck had once again had once more ignored every sensible medical guide one.

1:31:06I'm going to change the name here. For the simple reason that they actually call ragdha blackmail wolfie. The book should have been a book based on this. The did it as an audio drama. So a lot of people are unwilling to listen to it because there's sound effects and it kind of in a way does ruin it. But like all the scenes between gascule and redna. He calls them wolfie kills his balls. Empathas in left right and center. It literally does actually kill ragdha blackmail as well. It is like death for death. It is a brilliant flight scene and I actually do recommend it. After wolfie killed gascule at Kormgah, Grotsnick had a problem. The boss was dead.

1:32:12He and bullets bought the car back again because both new gascule needed fixing. They found a corpse. Then Grotsnick choked gascule apart and vaulted the bits into a giant suit. If I agree with what lightning through him from a generator between reality and the walk. There was an 80% chance it would blow after planet. Grotsnick didn't care. He worked some gascule back up and bigger and angrier and ready for even more war. That's so funny. Calls and wolfie. That fight was pretty cool. It sounds fun. I wish they would not have to justify everyone afterwards. You tell me everyone dies. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. It's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.

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1:34:13It was actually killing off Ragnar Blutmain. Whoa, okay, that makes things kind of wild. There's not really many books. There's not a modern book after that one of Ragnar being primaries, but it is known that he is primaries. Yeah, it's a bit of a weird one. Interesting. But yeah, he was essentially killed off and brought back. Yeah, right. He was the favourite space wolf. But for a lot of people, it's actually more preferred than Logan Grimmner in the course of the game. As a guard player, I don't like him. I don't like him in game. He just destroys squads. It's not. And I have had an entire 20-man Creek squad destroyed by him.

1:35:13I just eat some. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty much. And I have to say, Mark, of course you clicked at that picture. I'm just like fucking women. I was going to say my model. I wasn't going to give away anything to chat. Anyone to the listeners, unless you're in the live chat. You know me though, I can't help but rage at women. I can't help it. There's another hardcore Armageddon or a country. I'm just on the topic of women that actually was pretty cool. I'll call that up. All right. All right. Now we're talking. Is she got a point on a calm? You know, she's. Yeah, and that's why she's strong enough to arm wrestle the boys. That's pretty cool. You're in fairness. They would make for great kiss kitbashes. Yeah, no, I love the fact that. If you threw pure. Madness and just drive for his own personal playground, he actually undertook.

1:36:16The surgery in spite of an 80% chance of catastrophic failure. Yeah, while it's so cool how that happens. How like he's just literally channeling like orc energy and like. Yeah, like so his gas kill soul in this orc energy and it gets pushed back in. Is this like a when you've reigned resurrected gillimond type situation where it's like you're pulling the. The soul's back on the work or is it literally that gas kill is just like the embodiment of orc energy and like. Yeah, where it's like it doesn't matter. He doesn't really have a soul. He's just an orc doing orc things. I don't know. So does that mean gas coal is the friends we made along the way? And the guy's not not really an arc anymore but an embodiment of the great green in an art body. So he resurrecting it was not necessarily a soul, but it's like the personification of orc energy.

1:37:21Yeah, like I almost look at it this way like he's become. I don't want to use the word demon prince but I'll say a warp prince for gorken morgue. Yeah, essentially. Yeah. Yeah, where it's like now function in mortal he's charged with just warp energy and stuff and like. Yeah. He's speaking to the gods directly. He's their chosen profit like yeah, he's kind of become this warp prince. I think we could come up with a better name for it than that but. Yeah, just a warp being almost well, he's not a warp being because then you're going down. Yeah. We'll figure something out. I'll think about it. It's a fun concept though. I do like that. This is kind of how that resurrection happened where it's and it wasn't just like a surgery or it wasn't just taken ahead and slapping on a different body and then zapping it with some electricity. It's been fun and orchid and cool too but this opens up a whole new like kind of world options.

1:38:26Yeah, it's a tribute to Frankenstein isn't it? Really, yeah, for sure. Well, my dog's doctor Frankenstein and Gasko's the the monster it creates. Yeah. Which when you look at the the overall story of Frankenstein, yeah, kind of pretty much like he created something that he can't stop it to stop himself. And because he can't stop and he can't work on him to correct like the mistakes that he made. Crazy. Yeah. So that's kind of Maddox history there. His history is definitely tied with Gaskill and even Markeye or whatever. McCarrie. McCarrie, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely tied heavily with those guys, but he's got his own things. I love all these little different conversion ideas that we come up with. His war band would just be so characterful and unique and like.

1:39:29Oh, andish. Yeah, absolutely. Well, Carrie on and dive into his personality. Got Nick is a grotesque, enthusiastic, violently unstable and deeply unsettling pain boy who approaches medicine with getty excitement of an orc discovering a particularly interesting bit of machinery. Fascinated by pain, surgery and autonomy and experimentation with absolutely no concern for consent or conventional medical ethics to groxnik screaming is encouraging blood is information and death is merely an irritating interruption to a procedure. But he has manic behavior lies a frightening degree of confidence because his methods, however, horrifying, have produced repeated results. What's Nick is the maddest, happiest pain boy around a loves pain cotton and experimenting and dragon where nobody asked him to scream in means to surgery is working blood means his learning and been dead just means the patient stop cooperating his methods of bonkers, but they do work often enough to keep him confident.

1:40:43I love that death is just an inconvenience just an interruption just like now I got his app and go back to it whatever. Yeah, and it's because he does just see death as just this. It's not a thing. Yeah, you know, it's just another process is like jumpstarting your car. You know, it's become this other to win, which I suppose probably feeds into his complete willingness to just 80% chance the world's going to blow up. What's death anyways? Yeah, exactly. And just this idea of oh, he died again for crying out loud. This is the fifth time today. All I'm trying to do is take out his entire inside what the heck. Wait, when you think about it though, in a way, got Nick has become a non walk God.

1:41:44He can resurrect people, even though he is using some sort of war furniture to do so. He's not a walk being being himself, but he is creating life is resurrecting people like. Do you think maybe he has some kind of like I know all orcs have latent psychic abilities and stuff, but do you think he's maybe tapped into that a little bit more to be able to direct warped energy and like into his patients or. Well, if if messing with the brain has created a bigger connection for gas, go to the wall and to the gods potentially. He might be he might have opened himself up to the creation side of the gods where gas calls opened up to the wall side. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, because they are quite literally like channeling energy. It used to be like, is he hearing from Gorken work?

1:42:47We don't know, but like it's confirmed like he is channeling log energy, all this stuff. Who's to say that the ideas that he gets for these surgeries are not passed down to him from Gorken work anyway, because they've the repeat of the success was for some reason it could be the gods channeling through him. You could also be a couple of the gods. Yeah, and kind of coming full circle to mad dog to grotsnick. Gas goal was a project. Yeah, so is gas coal actually the puppet in the figurehead. Grotsnick was the original. That actually had that first link with Gorken more. Yeah, so who's controlling who McCarrie does have that. Sorry, actually, yeah, he's in dog.

1:43:47Oh, my comical side cannon eventually creates 20 or like gas goal and sets himself as the emperor of all kind. They will be my fighters against the darkness. Yeah, okay. So appearance. Grotsnick is a heavily augmented augmented or these body resembles the aftermath of several extremely enthusiastic surgical experiments. His flesh is covered with scars, crude graphs, biotics, metal plates, tubes, and various pieces of medical equipment. So his enormous mechanical saw and surgical tools are as much weapons as they are instruments. Every part of his appearance suggests that Grotsnick has treated his own body as another patient replacing, modifying, and improving whatever he found. Interesting.

1:44:47I will try that one again. And improving whatever he found interesting. He looks less like a doctor and more like a walking operative operating theater that has developed homicidal tendencies. He is both Frankenstein and Frankenstein's monster. Yeah, simultaneously. Grotsnick looks like a doctor's operating room, got legs and decided to murder people. He's covered in scars, biotics, metal plates, tubes, graphs, and medical governs. His sources, surgical tools are also weapons while his body shows how much fixing he's done to himself. Oh, Grotsnick.

1:45:47And here we come to my great thing about Grotsnick that I hate and it's his model. He needs an update. This model's fight. Yeah, it's still an update. I don't even think it was ever a good model to his kind of the problem with him. He's got this weird awkward pose like, I don't know. I've shown a couple other conversions or third parties that people have done. This one's a great one. Yeah, from Stone Monkey. But then there's this one and this one's a lot harder to do. This is a kit bash and I'll get bash is for Grotsnick, man. Yeah, that is pretty sweet. Like you even compare it to the new pain boy and the new pain boy to me just that it's just more Grotsnick than the Grotsnick model in mind. Yeah, yeah, and like he is old, but like I said, he wasn't even a cool model back in the day. So he needs that update.

1:46:47Yeah, there's so many cool pain bosses now. Yeah, there's this pain boss and then the Armageddon also came with the new pain boy as well. Yeah, yeah, the new pain boss pretty sweet. Yeah, so yeah, there's lots of hot boy out here. Lots of options to kind of do something new. I would like to point out that is a grot in surgical time. Yeah, we found them. Thank you. Yeah, I'm going to ask clearly long enough. The Armageddon models do actually go on preorder or something. It is next week. So I'm made by a couple just so like the one pain boy. It's got like four orders. So I'm quite a good. Yeah, I'm going to ask clearly long enough. The Armageddon models do actually go on preorder or something. It is next week. So I'm made by a couple just so like the one pain boy. So I'm quite.

1:47:47Yeah, sorry about. I'm quite lucky so my other half she's gone gone into walks. So naturally I bought the Armageddon box. I don't have space marines. But a friend of mine, he wanted the space green half. So I traded that away. So now I also have an Armageddon half of orcs just because I think the models are fantastic. So I'm going to be able to have the freedom of not having an army or having a use for them. But I can convert them. I can paint them up fun. And this is just giving me some great ideas. Yeah, nice. I. I'm going to the sky. His little belly legs. I essentially got like pretty much got a little bit of tax back from work. So I use that to pay a second box. Nice. That's still a lot of love, but we're getting there to start. Oh, yeah. Between the two boxes that were not to give me like 15 hundred points of both orcs and blood angels.

1:48:56And then I made up the space for blood angels with tanks and things. So nice. Let's carry on with his philosophy. Grass and eggs philosophy can be reproduced to a single principle. Everything can be fixed, improved, replaced or experimented upon. He does not view the art body of something sacred or even a particular permanent limbs can be swapped. Organs can be upgraded. Brains can be relocated. And even death can apparently be a challenge if got stuck has enough spare parts. It's officially dangerous equipment. It's great strength is in his complete refusal to accept that something cannot be done. Where another pain by season did or got some exceeds a medical problem that has not yet been solved. What's the record is everything can be fixed, improved, swapped or experimented on.

1:49:57Leibn's organs brains even death itself are just problems waiting for a solution. Where another pain by season did or got some exceeds a patient who haven't been fixed properly yet. Nice. And with that death scale clan mentality, everything is on the operating table. You think the occasional paints is medical equipment blue just for extra looking case when it's like something is a little worried about. Yeah, yeah, he's got like his blue handled scalpel. Yeah, yeah, him like the orderly drop passes him a scalpel just normal scalpel. And then it's like it is an important surgery. No, pass me the blue one. Yeah, with it being brought to the table that low.

1:50:57Would it be good to sneak it would literally be a killer grot and then shout out another one. Bring him the blue one takes the wrong scalpel shops it in his eye. Chopped off his nose kicks him down the stairs. Yeah, and then parts the eye where the nose was and the nose where the eye was. Yeah, sounds about right. Nice. Grotnik possesses acceptable knowledge of work, anatomy, surgery, cybernetics, biological modification. Although his techniques are so cruel that calling them the conventional medicine would be generous. He can't repair catastrophic injuries and hoods, biotics, perform extension extensive grafting construct cyborgs and create bizarre biological experiments such as the stitch boys. More extraordinary. He extran ordinarily he appears capable of manipulating the strange relationship between the orcs, the warp and death helping resurrect.

1:51:58McCarrie and ultimately restoring gas kill himself combined with his immense physical strength and savage combat ability. Grotnik is therefore both a terrifying battlefield surgeon and a remarkably dangerous warrior. We keep hearing about him being like a good warrior and fighter and stuff and like that's almost his new passion. But I think that's more just the means to the end you got to be that good warrior so you can get the new bodies so you can get new better parts for your body so you can be a bigger warrior so you can get new and bigger parts for your body. Yeah, absolutely. Grotnik knows all canademy surgery is born and grafted better than most pain boys. He repairs terrible wounds, builds our books and makes stitch boys and performs experiments nobody sensible would attempt. He's also somehow learned enough about orcs, the warp and death to bring back McCarrie and even gas kill on top of that is a brutal fire. Yeah, yeah.

1:52:58I would love to see a short story even just a little excerpt of Grotnik in a fight. Not even you know background just how he's fighting. It's a real description of you know how he's going to be wailing about and I can just picture him also just like he chops off an arm and then just takes a look at it and like nods to a grotto to grab it as he's fighting. He's creating carnage. Yeah, he's creating carnage but he's seeing the opportunity within carnage. Yeah, yeah. And you can almost make it artistic and you know it's his own madness and he's in his own world but to him there's sense in it. Yeah, like he sees that limb across the battlefield and he's like, oh that's a nice limb. I got to get all the way over there to get that limb. Yeah, sure. Yeah, so I think that's a great thing about the UK called scrap heap challenge massive throwback to 90s kids and naughty kids and basically they went to a junkyard and they had to build something two teams but they had to build a catapult a hovercrack.

1:54:13But they could only use stuff from the junkyard and it was it's sort of that I want that part there that will be perfect for what I need that would be a great rudder. Yeah, that sort of beeline I want that bit for my next project. Yeah, I use some of that show. Oh, it's great. It's great you minute. This is it and some of them did look rather awkish. Oh, yeah. And meanwhile too fighting him because like he's got all these weird syringes and stuff so maybe he just pricks you with a needle and then you explode through like high blood pressure. Who knows what he's putting in those dirty syringes but yeah, you don't want to get tricked by them. I can give you the good news that the stab the girl's notebook. There is like a fight scene with him fighting a squig and ox and also something. It's it's a really good book. I recommend it. Nice. So we've spoken about it quite a bit.

1:55:13All Korean carnation is one of the stranger consequences of the green skins bizarre connection to the walk suggesting that death may be little more than a temporary medical inconvenience for some of them. The most famous example is McCarrie who has died repeatedly only to return in new bodies retaining the same identity and memories. Other than simply rebuilding a corpse, Grotsnick appears capable of helping restore an ox existence through methods that blur the boundary between biology, psychic energy and the immaterium. Whether this is a genuine reincarnation, the all collective psychic field forcing reality to cooperate or some secret of gork and mork that Grotsnick has accidentally learned remains uncertain. What makes it truly disturbing is that Grotsnick may not fully understand it himself. He may simply have discovered that if an orc is dead, you can sometimes find him again, put him in another body and loudly declare that the operation is a success.

1:56:21Orcs got a strange relationship with death and McCarrie proves it. He keeps dying and coming back in new bodies, still knowing who he is. Grotsnick seems able to help this happen, though whether he understands how is another man. Maybe it's the walk, maybe it's gork and mork, or maybe Grotsnick just finds cramped orcs and tells him to get up. Oh, you are dead! Stop faking! Or it just gets on the way. Yeah, it was always a running joke that like what was we were in. If the RS regiment of Sergeant Major came round after you just dropped down dead, you would immediately stand to attention and run half mile. If he says you are alive, you are very much alive. Yes, I guess so. Absolutely.

1:57:21Yeah, I don't know how the orc resurrection works, but it definitely works. There are a lot of factions we have given Flack 4 where it's like, I don't know if I like Yanari faction and how they bring stuff back from the dead. It feels like they have taken away any sense of loss or like madness. They just come back and there are a couple of things that can kind of do that. But I don't know, the orc one, it's definitely a fun way to reincarnate. However they are doing it doesn't really matter. All of the reincarnations out there, they kind of hit it nicely. Yeah, and I've said it before, I quite enjoy law where they do leave it open ended. And especially for the orcs it's so thing, no one quite understands how a lot of the orcs stuff works. Not a lot of orc philosophers out there. There is orc comedies, don't get me wrong. He's the only one and he's all he's actually philosophizing about is why the hell he's there.

1:58:25But yeah, I mean, leaving it open ended, you can add your own spin which can lead to all sorts. It means further stories down the line, further law, and different plots. You know, you could get a pain boy that starts thinking he's getting a bit big for his boots and thinks, I think he's doing it this way. And then that can snowball. And then you can get a new character and you know. Yeah, I definitely like it for sure. Definitely. I'm going to post my reason in discord later, but I am actually quite surprised we haven't seen resurrection in chaos. You see it sometimes like car in the betrayer can't die. Caron does or corn does resurrect him. So what I mean is I know that the gods can't resurrect. Yeah. But it is viable that Abaddon could actually protect people spirits when they die.

1:59:30Yeah. Because one of the titles that Abaddon has is actually commander of demons. So he literally could command the demons to leave the souls alone when they're not at the war. You know, for someone to gather the soul and put it back in a body. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, maybe yeah, there definitely is some room there for some soul crushing. And other bodies like. Yeah, dark rituals and stuff. Yeah, there could be a little bit more of it there for sure, but. Let's go to grotts next warrior and wrap this up. Macdog grotts next carries an arsenal that looks less like military equipment and more like components of a deranged operating theater that have been weaponized. His warrior serves dual purpose, allowing him to butcher enemies repair or form horrifying experiments and modify himself wherever inspiration strikes.

2:00:37Almost every tool is equal, a capable of saving alive or anyone depending entirely on which of grotts next table you happen to be standing. Sneak carries enough source syringes, drills, claws and other medical grubbings to outfit and whole operating room. Everything can fix an or hurt an enemy or become part of some new equipment. We've got sleep. You never know when the tool in his hand is going to see real life or any. One of these tools is the slugger and grotts next slugger is accrued or can gun used when he needs to shoot something rather than immediately cut it open. Naturally, it's a little concerned for the target survives the experience. The slugger lets grotts next shoot gets when he is aim time forgotten them open where they survive ain't really his problem. He's also got his power claw and it's a massive mechanical claw capable of crushing armor or tearing enemies apart performing considerably less conventional surgical procedures.

2:01:43In grotts next hands, it is both a devastating weapon and an extremely alarming medical instrument. The power claw clushes armor and ribs enemy apart. What's Nick also uses it for surgery, which is probably worse. I've got the image of him cracking open one of those live primaries like a lobster with that with that power claw just like cracking the shell. Let's have a look inside. Yes. Slipping out the insides a little bit delicious. I like chopping a boy and half and throwing him to a bite or touch a wheel to him or something. Yeah. I don't need to talk. I don't need to talk. I only need a bomb. So docs tools, grotsnicks, docs tools are a collection of sauce, drills, clumps, needles, syringes and other instruments designed for performing or surgery.

2:02:45They can repair catastrophic injuries, replace body parts or inflict them often with grotsnick deciding which purpose applies only after the operation begins. Sores, drills, needles, clamps and syringes make up grotsnicks, docs tools, they fix wounds, swap body parts or make new ones depending on his mood. The earthy syringe is a gigantic syringe designed to deliver whatever unpleasant concoction grotsnick happens to have prepared. Whether it contains medicine, stimulants, poison or something that should never have been liquefied, the recipient generally discovers its content immediately after the needle enters. The earthy syringe pumps whatever nasty stuff grotsnick has cooked up into a patient. Medicine, poison or something nobody should drink. Yeah, find out where the needle goes in.

2:03:47Fuck. Yeah, you get injected and you just inject an entire liquefied human into your body. I was going to say, like, you're a poor guardsman on arm again and your battle buddy has just been injected into you. This episode is brought to you by Chat GPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons podcast. Have you guys heard about Chat GPT work? It's the new way to use Chat GPT for bigger multi-step projects and when you need more than just answers, you have Chat GPT work access to your apps and files and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides and structured reports. Get started at chatgpt.com by selecting Work Mode, available on plus and pro plants. Bandool is now available everywhere in the US. So you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are, including these places. Make this your most rewarding season ever with Bandool.

2:04:52Agent location restrictions apply. Product availability varies by market. See fandool.com for eligibility gambling problem called 1-800-Gemmar. Now we're together forever. Thanks, Grotsnick. We've also got the smutling and say, probably inject a few of those too, right? Yeah. Yeah. So like almost like microscopic squigs into you, they just like each of blunts stream out like, oh, that's almost along the lines of some of those parasites as well from. Oh, that's. But the problem is though, like, the snows gone that launches them like into things. Like they're not actually small. Like they're about our heads. So like when they emerge from someone, it is like a full face is emerging from their body.

2:05:53It's really creepy. So perhaps when he injects them, they then go full size. Squish him down a little bit. I mean, he's also probably liquefied the table that was stolen earlier as well. Yeah, just it was in the way. Yeah. Um, And it's a good one. Yeah, one of these things a while. Yeah. He's also got the cyborgs. Groceryck cyborg. Body represents his extensive use of cybernetic augmentations replacing and reinforcing parts of his already battled up physiology with machinery. It makes the mad dog considerably harder to kill, which is unfortunate considering how often it appears to test that durability himself.

2:06:56Groceryck cyborg body replaces bits of him with machinery making him tougher and harder to kill. He sometimes it seems determined to test exactly how hard he is to kill. Brain bots. Brain bots grow technical constructs associated with Groceryck's habit of preserving the brain's a knowledge of unbatching pain boys who have displeased him. They allow Groceryck to retain useful medical expertise was reducing the troublesome individual attached to the expertise to a little more than a component in his laboratory. Brain bots keep the brain and medical knowledge of pain boys. Groceryck don't want to go around anymore. The dog keeps the useful bits and gets rid of the transbus and personality. Nice. That's pretty fun. In effect, he's made an awk memory card.

2:08:00And like it's nice, you don't even need a lot of room for storage. It's not a lot of data you got to store ultimately for work. The thing is, he could actually like graph these brain bits on two grots, but he knows that they're all a bunch of sneaky little shits and it's not a good idea. See, I'm imagining like a PlayStation 2 memory card. Yeah, nice. Like every now and again, like Groceryck's a bit fuzzy on his memory for an operation he pulls it out just blows down it just sticks it back in. So kind of like, kind of like call with the memory banks. But it's just like this pulsing mass of brain matter. You have back very wet, just floating brains and jars. It's funny when you think about it that each faction seems to have a character that is very comparable to another one.

2:09:05It's like you can compare Groceryck to Fabius Bial or Carl. You could compare him to some of the group carry. The whole host that are very, very linked and the funny thing is the fact that this kind of the comical presence of the whole universe has the worst one. It's like a combination of all those other ones. So you get flesh crafting, you get some like bizarre experiments. You get experiments only for the sake of experiments. Like you get them all in this work. Um, he grows his own art flesh replacement. And literally has like it stretched over him. That's one way to do it. I'm honestly surprised that like with the Groceryck book they didn't like update the model.

2:10:11Because like at the start of it is all like patchwork. And he's got like bright green skin and like pale faded skin that's dying. And then like it throws himself in an acid lake and does all the skin stuff in the replaces it like with that grown up flesh. All the arcs that see it, the look at it and the know instantly there is not been naturally grown and they all feel it's weird. Like looking at like the look at the skin and then feel weird they all get the heavy duties. It's the fact is which actually is an art term which is fucking great. It's the idea of all of the things that Groceryck does. That's the weird one. It's the natural light. Like because it's not natural they they're like sense that it's not natural because it's like synthetic fun.

2:11:15Yeah, that's. They get you farm and do things like that. So it's not as if the idea of culturing things to print and goal is foreign to them. Yeah, but I suppose to an extent it's much like the Imperium with cloning. Yeah, it's just not right. Yeah, there's just something. Just something not right about it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, hopefully we get a new model for him one day. Doesn't look do you think he'll get a model with all these new orc drops that are coming out here or. Yeah, I think they've got to do it. Really. And with it being on the game. I think to be honest, we would like 12 years being the last one is due an update. Yeah, definitely. They did get school a few years ago. Yeah, it's in that cycle. OK, I but I dare say they're probably time it with the codex.

2:12:17Codex is due fairly soon. Codex goes on pre other next week. OK, so I yeah, they might. And with the. Now's the rig update of model. It also does put like an aspect within this edition. That would be a drop to make up. So not going to drop it all at once other. Yeah. No, because I'm not entirely certain. Didn't Nasdrick get leaked in a way through the new total war game that they're developing. People saw him kind of. I realized who he was. A lot of people realized he was going to feature in that game from the trailers. He is like the main one of the main characters technically in. Don't know. Yeah. So it was it was a room that there was going to be a model and everyone's like, Oh, well, now he's going to be in two games.

2:13:17It kind of like essentially is confirmed. And then suddenly we are we later due to be announced they were bringing out a model. Yeah. Man, he I have not seen all these orc minis. I haven't been looking at it or anything, but they're so fucking tight. They really changed the whole range around. I feel like they they took their posture a little more serious and made them look a little more like. Like they're still comical, but there's a little less of the comickness to it. I think it's almost leaning towards their scary. Their culture and their belief system is comical and the voice. Yeah. How they behave is comical. But it's that they are. Yeah. Yeah. You're bumping into that at night screaming war. It's one of the comical things, you know, a lot, how a lot of people are very upset to roll the law. The change with the perception of people.

2:14:20When it comes to orcs, actually the benefit because you've got people that now see the comical side of it. But also put a serious spin on it and like sort of like cement that law in as like the perfect advancement of it. And it really works nicely where you'll get some some changes from like a fan basis where not everyone enjoys it. But like the way that fans of sort of like force the evolution of orcs been taken more seriously. As worked out great for the model aspect of it. Like we're seeing so many nice models coming out and even like. Yeah. Like GW kind of struggle with orcs at the moment because there I mean having to compete with 3D sculptors that are making models that they don't make. And they can't really pull them down.

2:15:20Yeah. As easily as they could. Yeah. It's like I was saying to my like I've found some amazing Mark and Gorken art 3D prints like early on like if GW made these everyone would swarm over them. And it's something that they really missed. Like the big cardboard one. I found a plastic version of it that someone was designed for 3D printers. I had so go for I had happily spend like a couple of 100 on that because it's a huge model. Don't get me wrong. Like I had happily spend a couple hundred plastic over cardboard. Yeah. Yeah. I do think when they read it. Gas got all that was that start. To make orcs less comical. It looked real like that could be an actual being.

2:16:22It took that car to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like if you look at like the old mega knobs are like these like. Like lumbering like can barely even move their arms up and down things but then yeah they definitely took it into a different direction. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good kind of dividing line there that you've drawn. One thing I will note as well just. The new release boys all have nipples. Yeah. So they do have. Okay. So we can have nipple but all we can have nipple belts. Thank the Lord. So. I'm going to throw out another kit bash challenge. Yeah. Yeah. And you know someone makes. Grotsnick with a nipple belt. Yeah. That's lower friendly. Yeah. Yeah. It works as street man like they're they're pretty fucking rowdy all these models. Holy shit. That's a OS but I like him still.

2:17:24And I want him to be come home with me. And actually that. That's one you could probably easily convert it. That's not hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. Well, I fucking love a good orc episode. I've never really collected orcs too much. I've never done an orc army. They're always one of those ones where it's like I love fighting on my love that. Laura just never really got around to it but maybe one day. There's a lot of fucking cool workminis now. And like now that you don't got that weird like orc boy posture. I know those orc boys just seem so bizarre to me man. But. Yeah. Yeah. I have a few squads of the previous sculpts of boys and some of the new ones and the new ones look so nice even the fixed bar ones from the Armageddon box. And. I am tempted to look at getting some of the new ones that have just released because they're not. Fixed pose apparently are they not meant to be so we'll see.

2:18:24I'm waiting to see actually someone build them and I'll decide afterwards but. Yeah. We almost need to come up with like a name for the old orc boys like like it's like it's own kind of variation of orc. Hedge back works or something like. I don't know. Man well. They're so old that they hunched over there we go. Yeah. Oh boys. Oh boys there we go. That's because of the hearts of smart enough not to have their head above their shoulders. That is actually one of the books. The human is a stupid because they have their head above their shoulders and it's easy to hit whereas orcs don't. Just wait till they find out where we keep our genitals. Oh there it is. That is something that's mentioned. It wasn't the new book in that graphic book because they get the human are getting in fact to buy gene Steelers and it's like.

2:19:26Like and then the the humans make more that are infected with gene Steelers and the beast and agobos like how do they make mine is like you don't want to know it's disgusting and even worse when when when skin thieves are involved. That's what they call a gene stealer skin thieves. I will just be that guy because of marksmanship principles generally speaking when you aim at a target you aim center mass. So the orcs heads being around about the center of mass. But for current standards. But no I love that's such an all thing though yet the you me's a stupid because I can dock you on the head easily. It's actually kind of funny because one of the the orcs abuse of humans is they use more words because they got too stupid to understand things without the extra words.

2:20:27I love that. That's so funny. Why use more word when less word do. Which I kind of think it's like why word a little dig the American version of English versus English. I can see that because a lot a lot of the spellings of what has taken out because of the press which I do for letters in print. So it kind of evolved into itself language and you know a lot of the Americans go why the fuck do you put the extra letters in when it makes sense without them. Which he does. Yeah. Well any other thoughts on. Mad doc. Pain boys or works anything. I really want to make some stitch boys.

2:21:27I'm really. I'm really. I'm really. I'm. I'm not making the same mistake as like the last eight episodes or whatever it is where I've turned around. I want to start this army now. I've got some orcs. I have a whole army. I'm not doing another whole army. Yeah. Yeah. What you want to do is. Well, what's that new scale that the the brought out which is basically. I want to get to one three K. I may it becomes a second one. Apocalyptic battles. That's what it is. Apocalypse. Yeah. And there's no limit to how much how far you extend that apocalypse army as long as it's within sets of 3000. And that's where I'm going with the creek. 21,000 dogs, 20,000 dogs. Very cool. Well, I think what are we up to here?

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