#4808 There Are Three Kyles Inside You

0:00Is that it? Just that one word? Yeah. Okay. Yes! I just think that was really good. Feeling is here that you could be a bit more positive. More positive? Yeah. You know, really go for it. You want me to go for it? Yeah. All right. Yes! Very, very good. Let's just try without the scripts. Might just loosen you up a little bit. Yeah, I mean, it's... what is it? One word? You don't really need it, do you? I probably don't need the scripts. It's just a word. Yeah. Okay, let's do it again. Yes! Is that it? Yes. Right. Hi, Steven. Yes. This is Clem Fandango. Yes. Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you, Clem Fandango. Honestly, this is going so great, but I just think there was a little lot of energy in that last take.

1:03Maybe try one more. Okay, ready to go? Yeah. What? Yes! Toobitl! Guess what day it is! Guess what day it is! It's Friday. Friday. And we get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. You negligently ruined her iPhone. You have to pay for that. It's as simple as that. It's just not rocket science. What is rocket science? Rocket science is when the scientists find out things about space. Mmm! Ah! The spot show soups burn my lips. Is it a spot show? Yeah, it's been sitting out. It warmed up. It warmed up so much that it burned your lips. Let me explain something to you. If you're expecting something ice cold and you bring it up to your lips in this room temp, it's going to feel like your mouse on fire. It's going to feel like your body's on fire. And food goes a dime, might it. Well, all right. Hello. Good morning and welcome everybody to a Friday edition of TBTO,

2:03the show that just might be too beautiful to live. What is this? Only my favorite podcast of all time. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. You're like the Daniel DeLus of only doing one thing. Coming to you from the Modrona Hill studio perched high above. The Mighty Columbia, where we are arriving my friends at episode 4,08. 108, 108 in a collector series. Less the fun begin. That's right. Hit that 808. It's going to be a kind of a different based sound today's episode. You're going to really hear that 808 working, my friends. As we bring you various stories from both the news and our lives, including a story from Mount Everest and an issue that they are dealing with there. They're dealing with snow loss on some of the snowpack and this glacier that's at a base camp of Mount Everest. And you won't believe the thing that they say is contributing profoundly to the loss of snowpack at Mount Everest. Did you get drunk and urinate on people?

3:04I can't comment that out. Well now you have somewhat of an idea of the thing that is contributing to the snow loss there at Mount Everest. We'll dig into that more also. No matter of hours, I am scheduled to be standing in front of. I forget what the exact number is somewhere between 3,000 and 5,000 people doing stand-up comedy. Jokes are really difficult, I must say. And I'm once again wondering why I agreed to do this because I am not good at stand-up comedy. And now I have to do it again in front of people. Anyway, maybe this guy's got some advice. He's the longest running co-brill of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships he has won. I would say hyper-specific request about the discourse today on the program. I can't know how to hear any more about tables. He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke. Sorry, I sort of button hooked you there with the doubling up on the Tim Robinson.

4:05I think you should leave drops. There was one in my montage and I knew you were going to play one. Well, it's a Tim Heidecker though, right? Let's see here. Is that Heidecker talking about Caspacho? Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. I'm feeling, you know what, I'm feeling, I have brain fog today. You're right. Same show, different voices. We're in the clear. I shouldn't have even thought that out. You know what, I retract my apology to you. I, you know what I say about us, Andrew? And the listeners know this from listening to the program. Here's something about us. Quick to fight. Faster to forgive. You know, that's the TBL motto. There's no hugging at the Coyote County rib cookoff. But when the Coyote comes off, many things better than a hug. But in Nashville, the barbecue comes close. It's something about that music that comes in at the end. I speaking up the Coyote County Hogue of Valley, I have to update you on something that is this is TVTL breaking news. I just got a message from our producer, the TV producer. Remember how I was going to have a TV story on about the Valley City Frog Jump this weekend?

5:08Interesting choice of tents there. Yes, I noticed you said that in the past tense. Yes. Well, we got bumped because they're adding in us an o-bit for Gloria Steinem. You don't think that three beefy boys jumping frogs in Valley City is more... When is it going to be the men's turn, Luke? I mean, if there's anybody who would have gotten that, it's Gloria Steinem. That's what I'm saying. Supposedly, they promised they're going to put the story on in the next few weeks. Although, I don't really know how that's going to happen. It was a summertime story. Labor Day weekend was, in my mind, the end of summer. And the last realistic chance to kind of say, like, hey, remember this frog? I mean, what it probably means is we don't get into the next couple of weeks. Then we all have to wait until next year about this time. Like, until next year about frog jump time is probably when they might, I don't know.

6:11This is the kind of thing. The thing about the demographics of who watches CBS Sunday Morning and of also who runs CBS Sunday Morning is the same demographics that is we're losing folks because that's the part of the aging process. And so I wish I could say this is the first time that somebody passing away. And again, it's talking about Gloria Steinem on the show yesterday. Tremendous individual. And somebody who I didn't know enough about and I've been kind of, I've been reading in on. And I've been really fascinated with her life and her the way that she really, I think, had a huge impact on the culture. So, yes, a more important story than what we were doing. But still annoying nonetheless because I feel like, here's what I feel like. I can't watch. I can't hear nothing about no more CBS Sunday Morning. Andrew because I can't know how to hear anymore about tables. Because what I, if I watch Sunday's episode, I'm going to be mad at the stories that weren't bumped. I'm going to be like, oh, really? Oh, really? That's why? Oh, really? This is the show where all I do is do like bad Tim Robinson impressions.

7:12Oh, really? We needed to moat that moh-rock a piece on that thing. Oh, really? That's why that? Well, I was going to say this is, you know, I'm speculating here, but I'm guessing that more than one thing is going to be bumped for this Steinem piece, right? Because you said the frog jump thing, it was like clocking out for two minutes and a half minutes or something. Yeah, so they'd better give more time. By the way, quick shout out to the onion who I saw a headline from yesterday in the wake of her passing. It's the headline from the onion is glorious, Steinem researcher who discovered existence of women dead at 92. That was a great headline. Pretty good spoof. Pretty decent spoof. Yeah, no, I'm sure that there are a few things I hope anyway. Yeah, I hope that they're giving, but see, this is where, whatever, why am I airing all of this, my thought process on these things. What I would say is, okay, if you got to clear out some room, I promise you that if I watch the show on Sunday, I will find three other stories that could have held, could have been held longer than ours. Not because ours is, and it's ours now, Andrew, you're part of the human genre. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Although they wouldn't let me name TBTL specifically. That was one of the things.

8:15So I had it going something like our frog was shy that me and my podcast buddy, or me and my, me and my, I forget how I called you guys, but from the podcast, TBTL that we do. And then the last feedback from the seniors was, could we just say your podcast buddies? I mean, I kind of knew, I knew that that was never going to make it in even before it was such a, you know, a super short window because like, you raise that and it just does become, it just raises so many more questions. And you talk about, but it's more confusing to say my podcast buddies. Yeah, that's true. I guess there's no, like I thought saying the podcast I do called TBTL, that was more context than just saying, there's no mention of a podcast or you and John, and then all of a sudden it's me, you and John walking a frog out to center stage, and then, and then hulking over it. And so I, you know, and yes, between you, you are like, is the frog a podcaster that that might have added to, I don't know if your editors were flagging that in a case gone cold could a frog bring the heat. I believe in the words of Lester Holt. But so, you know, I actually thought that it was more explanation to say TBTL, however briefly in a case gone cold could a

9:27podcast bring the heat. But if I watch, if I were to watch the full episode of Sunday morning this Sunday, what I know I will see are to in my estimation, one or two other stories that were less time sensitive than ours, ours being time sensitive in my mind because it's about a summertime thing. It's a summertime vibe. It's not a story that you want to watch the third week of October. It makes no sense. And so that's why I think it's going to fall. It's ultimately going to maybe fall by the wayside, despite whatever it is that they've said. And like, you know, promised about putting it on. They always promise they're going to put things on. And like also, I don't like getting into the game. Like I believe that there should have been stories bumped to make room for a proper appreciation of the life and accomplishments of glorious dinam without a doubt. I just think there's going to if I watch it, I'll see other stories that I think should have been bumped before how many is it a one hour or two hour long show I assumed it was one hour in my business.

10:27Okay, because I was just curious. I think it's an hour and a half about it. Oh, really? Oh, that's interesting. And so you're you're looking at I kind of. Hey, Luke, it would be really interesting on this podcast if I asked you or invited you to describe the news wheel of CBS Sunday morning. But I was kind of curious like how many like 90 minutes with commercials, you're probably looking at between longer features and then shorter, you know, two and a half minute little things. What are you looking at maybe like six to seven little pieces in a show. I don't know how many exactly it is. I can tell you that the range there's there's like, you know, something called the cover story, which is what is considered the primary story of the week. That was probably the frog jump, you know, but well, yeah, if I had anything to say about it, the cover story can be anywhere from seven minutes to nine minutes. If it's Ted Coppel, it could be 180 minutes. But they do, but seven eight minutes. That's a very long period of time, especially for a television piece, right? That's significant.

11:32Well, on normal television, yes, not on Sunday morning. There's the cover story, which is going to get and the cover story isn't breaking news. It's something new Z, but that they've been working on for a while. Like I'm doing a story about UFOs. It's going to be a cover story. So that'll be long. That'll be seven minutes, nine minutes. Then there's a the big profile. The big profile, if the boss, that's, you know, a big celebrity profile of the week. And if the bosses are really intrigued, really excited about that celebrity. And again, there's the celebrities that they're excited about are sometimes different than the celebrities. I am excited about. And so the celebrity profile can get seven minutes sometimes, sometimes eight minutes. And then all the other stories are kind of fighting for time. And what we're always told is, boy, if you can turn in a quick, if you can turn in a three minute story that really, really sings, you're in great shape, because they've always got room for those. Apparently not. Apparently, because when I, when we pitched this, I said, hey, we should try to get this in on Labor Day. And the bosses were like, that's a great idea. Can you make it two and a half minutes? I mean, said, sure, we made it two and a half minutes. It's a good little story, too. By the way, Dave Rayco is the breakout star. It's, be honest. It starts and ends with Dave Rayco, which, which is how it should be.

12:41But, but then now it's now it's so to tanch you a question, how many stories I don't know I can't do that kind of math, but they're probably carving. I'm guessing they're, they're probably dropping to, probably like maybe two stories out. Yeah, they're probably dropping a three minute story. And they're probably dropping our story. They're probably clearing up five and a half minutes of air time for this. Which is, would be sitting there judging the rest of the, the stories, but you're not going to watch. Just bow out. Don't, don't expose your excitement. No, you know what? I'm going to follow my usual. I don't like, I'm on such a hot streak right now that I don't want to change anything up. It's all working. I'm going to continue my habit of not watching the show. Okay. I don't want to mess any, I don't, I'm not changing my underwear and I'm not starting watching the show. Just to be safe. Yeah. Do you have any big weekend plans? Big weekend. The biggest one I've ever had. Big weekend. I kind of do. I had sort of hinted at this last week. There is a dog park in Edmonds that has access to the water.

13:47Right. And I had been hearing a lot of people either recommended or saying I want to check it out, including people on our text chain that we maintain with Lucy dogs, brothers and sisters and the people who adopted them. So we're having a little family reunion for the dogs. I think it's only going to be Lucy and maybe two over siblings showing up for this. But last weekend, Vives and I checked out to this park in Edmonds. And it's really great. Luke, I mean, I don't know how well you know Edmonds, but it's back where all the fairies and stuff are the arebises. Okay. Yes. It's not by the Arbis. That's culturally Edmonds. But I'm way less familiar with Edmonds than you are. But I know that I dropped our friend wrote it off at the ferry terminal or something back there one time. This is sort of tucked back there and it's right on the water. And there's this big train like an industrial, you know, like a real train. I do actually know the end by the very terminal very well. Yeah. I don't know if there's this great area that's this beachy area with log. And it's just like, and we went last weekend, talked to the other, you know, just like. Randos at the dog park, I'm finding dog park people to be pretty great people always having interesting conversations. And then anyway, so we went last weekend. It was wonderful.

14:53We're going back on Saturday because I kind of reached out to the to the gang and said, hey, should we do a meetup. I was kind of proud of myself for actually orchestrating it actually. Yeah. Prompting it and then speaking of that, I like Mr. Social Butterfly. It's Mr. Mr. Me out here just inviting people over. I got a couple of buddies coming over for a long overdue kind of. Dark night, listen to some records, throw some dark Saturday night, hug a lot. Yes, it is going to be a big day for me. So I want you to turn that Saturday night into a PD USA video. Yeah, exactly. It'll be very. A little male loneliness. It'll be very similar. Yeah. You're through actually saying stuff to each other. It is, you know, it's my buddy, you know, my buddy Paul, who I've been friends with since high school, my longest and best friends. And, um, and Jonathan Hauser, who you have dubbed J dog, you know, the three of us have really created a nice. I've been meaning to actually send I took a picture for J dog that I've been just been living on my phone for the last, I don't know since I was in Salt Lake. There's a.

15:54There's some kind of a hot dog chain in Utah called J dogs. Oh, yeah. And that's that's his, his, I'm assuming that he runs. But anyway, you know, street name. I know that you have some big weekend plans to talk about. So I won't go overboard on this. But there is something about this. There is something about my, it's just kind of interesting to have, you know, Paul, who I've known for, you know, the majority of my life at this point, John, I never call him John, except when I'm referring to him on the show for some reason. But Hauser, who is just incredibly dear friend, I like I cherish his friendship so much. And I don't even know how much he listens to TBL anymore. So I'm not saying this because he might be listening. But like, I've never met a fellow like him before and his friendship is important to me. But there's something about the fact that I have this like kind of, you know, this three way friendship with these two guys who mean so much to me, but, you know, but I know from different, different aspects of my life. But we all bring it together to throw darts or go see shows sometimes or whatever. It's just I, I don't know if you're like a lucky guy. So that's what we're going to do. That's great. I'm glad to, I'm really glad to hear that is how you're feeling because it's, you're right. You know, it's a lucky thing that your Saturday involves taking your dog that you're pretty jazzed about with your dog.

17:04He's just very jazzed about with your partner out for some fun times and then hanging. Hanging with the boys after all exactly don't tell the boys don't tell the boys exactly just TC Tugging with that's right. Big boys going to make some big noise. In fact, I was going to say we'll probably put that on the turntable that PD USA ranger, which by the way, I keep on mean this is from Hauser for you he gave this to me. Years ago to give to you you have your own copy of because you have a you have a record player now. That's actually a PD USA record. Yeah, he had two extras and he gave one to me. So I just give the other one to Luke. And I was supposed to be the seeker. I mean, how am I just finding out about this? You probably told me and I forgot. But like, that's really funny that I would bring that particular for people that don't know. PD USA is this guy that we got, I think pretty into during the pandemic. Firstly, because he was making these real kind of surreal kind of comedy videos where he would just play himself. He'd play all the different characters, but it would all be him.

18:05And it was kind of, again, just this oddball humor that really struck a chord for us. And then at some point, I don't know how we figured this out. Somebody figured out he's also a singer. And the music that he was making is also really interesting and kind of, it sort of sounds, it sounds like one sort of thing. But the actual lyrics and the messages is really interesting just about how guys tend to relate to each other and things like that. Anyway, that's this guy, PD USA, that we've referred to a bunch. And then I mentioned it today, like, oh you and your guys are going to be PD USAing out on Saturday. And they're like, oh, by the way, I have him on vinyl that Jay Dogg is trying to give you for a year plus. Because houses are a huge fan. And so it's something he bought a record, but ended up getting three or something. So he gave one to me and said, oh, give the other one to Luke. And then I was like, yeah, I slid it in here and it's been sitting next to my computer for like literally three years now next time I see I'll give it to you. And then the house or have a whole thing where he was like wearing the same hat to two shows in a road was really worried that it was going to be a PD at one of them.

19:07He met him and he had this like trucker hat on or something and then he saw him again and he had the same hat or he had to buy, I think did he quickly buy another hat because he didn't want to be caught in the same hat twice. Something like that. I get that by the way, that's something that I definitely get. Yeah, my hat by the way, you check this, check this bad boy out. Oh, I see. So Luke's wearing a like a baseball style cap unstructure kind of soft, but it's got a nice bird on his head. A finch is at a house finch. It's from the front of it. It is another one of my purchases from the let's see the national shop. Oh, the national shop at crater lake national park. What kind of a bird is that a house finch? It's a yellow bird with black wings. I don't know what kind of bird it is. It doesn't say is there a tag on the inside? It doesn't indicate. I have to ask Genevieve, but I'm really into this hat because it's mostly because it's from the the gift shop at crater lake. My big weekend plans are I think we're going to go down maybe to Salem and spend a little time with Becca's brothers. Hopefully the brothers will see how many people we can get together and maybe go out to

20:08wine country a little bit. And just have all come to that. Ever once like once a month or once a month or so, let's see. Let me run through this in spring. No, they don't do it in spring. What about winter? It's such a complicated. I don't think they do it. They don't do it. Sorry to get you off track there. I don't know why even ask that question. What a dumb dumb idiot. I am the thing that I have, I think I already mentioned at the top of the show and that I have been a little anxious about is that tonight I am going to be kind of hosting this thing called comedy in the park at Laurelhurst Park in Portland. It's part of this kickstand comedy summer project. Summer series they do. Laurelhurst Park is just lovely park in Portland. This is kind of natural amphitheater sort of thing where you've got these, these kind of, you know, sort of hill area that then feeds down to this little spot and makes a great

21:09place where people to come out and pitch blankets and bring along their, you know, picnics and a little wine, etc. And also it's very kid friendly. So a lot of people that have got young ones like to come out to this. Last year they asked if I wanted to help out with it. This is all in service of trying to promote live wire. The idea being that a lot of these folks that would come to this part, this comedy night in Laurelhurst are also people that might want to come to live wire. So this is good as a promotion. And last year I said, yeah, sure. I mean, I don't know. It's like comedy in the park. What could it be, Michael? $10. I get there. And there's like 3000. Somebody told me later it was 5000 people. It's a tremendous number of people at this thing. Also, I can't remember if I was saying this on air or off air, but like the thing about doing comedy outdoors and save it on the joke that I'm using this as an excuse for why my God. But I'm blaming, I'm blaming the environment for my comedy not being funny.

22:09Two things can be true. First of all, I wasn't going to make that joke, but secondly, don't ever try to tell me not to make a joke in advance. It makes me want to make that joke more. And thirdly, we were talking about this off air and I sincerely agreed with you 100%. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yes. Which is, it's tough, you know, it's tough doing comedy anywhere, particularly if you are not a comedian like me, but outside is rough because you wouldn't necessarily think this, but you cannot. It's hard to get. Basically you need to be in a room where there is a ceiling and walls because if somebody laughs, the sound literally bounces off the ceiling and walls stays contained. A room full of people laughing sounds like one thing. A big open air area where some people may be laughing a little bit is very different. The sound literally seems to just kind of go and evaporate out into the air. And so it's just an added degree of difficulty for me when I'm already like not very good at this. And so last year, last year, I feel like I kind of had like a kind of a five minute thing

23:13that I was planning on doing that or that I did. And I don't think it went great, but it wasn't terrible. You can't really tell. I mean, that's kind of the thing. Yeah. Can you describe the assignment again? I kind of know this because we're talking about it briefly off air recently, but like, so you're hosting this thing. So as other comedians who are going to be coming and doing their their hits, right, as well, like maybe five minute, ten minutes. I'm assuming five minutes sets, ten minutes seems long, but you're going to come out. You're going to host an MC, the whole thing, but it starts with your own little set of five minutes or so. Well, okay. I get yes. I guess that's what's happening. Last year when I showed up, it was a little unclear. Like I they had said, do you want to MC this? And I said, okay, MC, it feels doable to me because I don't think of myself as a comic. I think of myself as a person who's going to come out and just introduce the next comic. That's the thing I feel comfortable with. And when I got there, they said, oh, yeah, but you want to do like, but also we'll have you go out first and do like five minutes or whatever. And it's like, okay, and I sort of had something in my back pocket.

24:14I went out there and did that. I can't really tell if it went well or not. The way that they asked me again, do you want to do it? Well, they asked our producer, do you want to do this again this year? I said, it's probably good for me to kind of push myself and also it's good promotion for live wire. But my plan was, I'm not going to think of it as stand-up comedy. I am going to only think of it as, I'm just there. I'm going to go out and I'm going to say welcome to comedy in the park. Get your first comic out here. And then I'm just going to do the interstitial work. And that made me feel less nervous about it. I'm going to be a very, very small cog in this wheel. And in fact, I wasn't even sure midway through the week. I was like, do they even really need me to do this? Like the weather has been inclement. You know, it's been raining down here a lot. I was like, I don't know what the turnout's going to be. I don't even know if it's happening. I started to thought, maybe they don't even, maybe I can kind of like, maybe I can just Homer Simpson back into the hedge. And then I won't have to be stressed about this. Now, are you working with your live-wire people as far as this is concerned? Like are you checking with your producers? Or this is just like the organizers are dealing with you directly?

25:17The produce, I'm not dealing, there's an intermediary. The interlocutor is our executive producer. So many connected to live-wire? Yeah. So I was just wondering if I wanted to do this. I'm saying, should I do this? And they're saying, it's probably good promotion for the show. We're going to set up a booth. We're going to have live-wire swag, whatever it's going to be. I was just sort of curious because regarding this idea of like, maybe can you slip back into the hedge? I was just sort of, you know, well, curious is kind of like what the communication style is like. Yeah, and I was all of the sense. And I also thought, well, if they're not counting, because the thing is, I'm making this so uninteresting, which was my plan for tonight when I'm doing comedy. So I don't want to waste that here. But when I said there was a little confusion last year when I showed up, what I mean is, there's like five of these events per summer in this park. And they're hosted by two, or at least last summer, they were co-hosted by these two local comedians who are good at their job and know what they're doing. And I felt kind of a little bit sheepish when I showed up because I was like, I'm sure

26:21they enjoy the chance to perform in front of three to five thousand people. This is a good thing for them as far as their brand awareness. And they're also better at it than I am. And I kind of felt like, I felt bad that I was rolling up and someone was telling them, you know, hit the bench, kids. Oh, yeah. I don't like that energy coming from, I don't like someone thinking that I'm sort of swooping in and telling them like to take a back seat at their series, the thing they MC all summer. And they didn't know it. I'm really confused. They didn't know about it until you showed up. It felt to me like it had not been super clearly communicated. Jesus. I mean, they're doing something like this is you do a lot of prep, you think it out and suddenly they're like not. Well, they were still doing there. They were still doing there like five to ten minutes. Like they were still doing their set, their set, if you will. But they just weren't going to be host co-hosting it the way they had the previous four or five of these. And I was a little bit, I felt bad because I was like, I don't want to step on anyone's toes.

27:22By the way, everybody was incredibly gracious and nobody was being weird about it except me. I just felt weird about it. So I kind of thought, this was my thought midweek this week. I'm like, it's a little rainy. Maybe they're not even going to do it. Also they have two hosts who are good at it. Last year I felt like I was kind of a little bit pushing them out of their spot. Maybe they don't even need me. Maybe no one will notice. Maybe I can reach out to our producer and say, I've got a, you know what, I'm a little under the weather today. I've got a sore back. Maybe I can come up with a reason to not do this. Mental health day. That's right. And literally as I'm about to send that text to our producer to say like, do they really need me there? I see an Instagram post that's like comedy in the park hosted by Luke Burbank. It's all me. It's, I think it might be two pictures of me. And then you know who's below it is, what's his name? Oh my gosh, I keep up. I'm thinking Kyle Dunnigan, but that's a different comedian. The other Kyle that we love. Kyle Mooney. Not Kyle Mooney. I was like, wow.

28:23The third Kyle, you think that wouldn't have come up yet? Oh, Kyle Canaine. Kyle Canaine. Oh, thank you. There are only three Kyle's inside of every 30. Three Kyle's inside you, yes. Kyle Canaine, who I really like and who was on live wire recently and was great Portland comedian, but known nationwide. Kyle Canaine is the headliner of this comedy fest comedy thing on, on at Laurelhurst Park tonight. And I swear to God, they're making it look like it's starting Luke Burbank. And by the way, Kyle Canaine might be there. And I'm like, that is the wrong order of events. It's Kyle Canaine. And you may have to suffer through this public radio, dude, very briefly saying a couple of things. This is really, I gotta be careful. I don't want to be rude about graphic design being anybody's passionate or anything. But I have called up the, are you looking at something that you're talking about? There are two pictures of you. And there are three pictures of Kyle Canaine, but it's like somebody, I'm not even saying

29:25I dislike it. I want this to be very clear because sometimes I jokingly will talk about a tavern called Gandalf's that's named after a dog instead of a wizard or whatever and people get upset. I'm not trying to do that for real here, but it's a very interesting, clear choice. This wasn't an accident of like how they decided to portray you and Kyle. Like, it's you, I guess, doing stand up or doing this hosting or a black history. Last year at that thing. And, but they have it like a one shot of you that sort of over your shoulder, like your back is to the camera for most of it. And the other one is you straight forward talking into the microphone. So it looks like you're in conversation with yourself sort of. And then they do three in set photos of Kyle Canaine probably doing the same event last year in a previous year. But like, yeah, maybe a preview. But it's like, it's three photos of him in the same shirt, like all, you know, clearly from the same moments from the same set. But they just decided to like duplicate you and triplicate him for some reason. I'm not exactly, I'm not exactly sure why that choice was made.

30:25And again, I'm not even saying it sounds like I'm being critical. I'm actually just being curious. Mm hmm. Uh, well, my takeaway from it was there's no backing out now. Yeah. And at no time did I know, and I promise you, I, I, there are probably times on this show when I like, I'm talking about something as if it's a negative, but I'm like low key feeling slightly chuffed about it. Like, you know, I'm, maybe it's a humble brag that I'm disguising as a, as a problem, but I think it's a blessing. This is not that for me. Like, you know, to be like, I really was the way that I was managing my, my nervousness around this was to minimize it in my mind about what my contribution was and what the expectation was. And it's feeling like the expectation is now to the degree that anybody sees this Instagram, you know, add and to the degree that anybody coming to this has that in their mind, which is a couple of pretty big degrees that might not be really happening. It's like, it went from me thinking like, maybe nobody will notice if I'm not there to me being like, well, that's going to be, that's going to be noticeable considering the

31:28way it's being promoted now. You know what I'm realizing here? And maybe why I should even continue to be more careful with my, um, comment, oh, I was going to say, because I get the impression that maybe this image that I'm looking at is the live wire version of it because it's got the live wire logo on it. And I thought maybe live wire made their own version. Maybe they also, maybe they, um, maybe they put out a version to, but I think that there's a kickstand one because the kickstand, it is on kickstands, whatever, I'm taking this to a boring place. It's on kickstands page as well, but it sort of seems like live wire made this graphic. And so of course they would want to emphasize your involvement. It's a live wire one. And now it's been shared, I think. I mean, it is official. I'm trying to, you know, it is officially on the kickstand comedy Instagram as well, but I get the impression that maybe this was live wire is kind of like emphasis on your part of it while, you know, I'm sure there's a whole bunch of various, you know, efforts to promote this thing. I'm really hoping that I'm hoping Kyle can a in the other comics see this. I'm hoping that's yeah, because they'll love that.

32:29If that, if we created that, which again, I understand the spirit in which it was created, if we created that asset. And now it's like, if it were work, that's coming in even hotter than last year. I'm guessing because it seems to emphasize live wire and kickstand, but live wire is bigger in the thing, you're bigger. I think, and it makes sense. Like if we were doing a TBTL thing, you know, like if we're going to do a, if we're teaming up with, you know, our pals over at Text Me Back, our version of the social media would probably emphasize us more. I'm, I'm, I'm sincere when I say I'm not trying to be critical here, but it, it makes a little bit more sense. And it makes sense that you, it would be presented to you because you're, you know, whatever algorithm is going to, you know, be showing you the live wire stuff. So well, that makes me even anyway, all of that is to say, okay, sorry, that's a very boring place because no, but like, A, now that makes it harder for me to back out wherever it originated and B, it's not even like kickstand was like, hey, we're so excited to have LB here.

33:30It's, it's, it's just like, now they're like, oh, he has his own PR team. That's putting it up outside. That was, that wasn't my point. There I was just getting nerdy and sort of like just sort of pulling at that thread, which I shouldn't have. But what do you, what, what is your plan? Sort of like do you have though, like kind of like, do you have a bit of a kind of quote unquote one set that you're going to do to get things started? Do you think that you have to fill five minutes? And if so, I mean, the good news is I don't have to like, there's plenty of comics and they're going to do plenty of time. So it's not like, there's not, it's, I have one joke in mind, which is to say something about how I'm a public radio host. And then like, I know there's one, there's one place you turn for comedy. It's public radio. I feel like I can make a joke about public radio not being funny. That's pretty much what I have right now going in. That's the extent of my, of my, I was trying to think about maybe, you know, I was trying to think about some things that are very shared, shared feelings or experiences in Portland right now. One thing is everybody hates the new owner of the Portland Trailblazers.

34:31I don't have a joke about that, but I feel like that is a shared experience. I don't know. I'm also, here's the thing, I, I really want to try to not be doing anything that feels to them like I'm trying to make a joke if that makes any sense because when you make what is clearly an attempt at a joke, you have now, you've raised everyone's expectations. And if they're not met, then it's noticeable. Whereas if I just go up there and I just kind of chat casually, kill some time, I don't know, make a few self-deprecating comments and then get the first comic out, I feel like that just, that'll be fine. And then what I do think I actually am kind of okay at is once we have some comics going up and doing stuff, I think I'm kind of okay at like, coming up after them and, and referring to something that they said or something that's in the moment, I do think I'm, I'm pretty good at that. Once the show is going and all I'm doing is going up and reducing people, as far as like calling back, making a joke based on something that's happened in the, in the moment that we're in, that I feel very comfortable about.

35:32It's just the kind of like, being the first person out there trying to set the tone, trying to be kind of funny, that's the part that is stressful. Well, keep in mind you don't want to be too good because you want the person behind you or after you or the first person to take the stage will feel. Any danger of that. You could also say something on the lines of, you know, make your observation about how, you know, people don't turn to public radio for comedy and say, so of course that makes me less of a stand-up comedian, more of a stand-up humorist because I sort of feel like people are considered humorists on public radio. That was a, that's a free one you can have if you'd like. I kind of, when I was, remember I played that James Austin Johnson tape about him in the Jim Rat, where I thought he was going to go with it, which kind of made, can I do a joke, maybe not at kickstand, but just some other time. That's like, it's not stealing James Austin Johnson's joke, but it is using where I thought he was going with his joke, which kind of thought it'd be funny if someone talked about being a real Jim Rat in that they eat small pieces of pizza crust that they find on the ground and kind of like to try to hide outside the gym.

36:33They try to hide, they try to hide, you know, in like a corner of the room and, you know, something where the joke of being the Jim Rat is just rat behavior. So you're talking about being a Jim Rat, but then the reveal is funny things that rats do. Could that be a joke? It could be. I think, you know, us, us, being a humorist. Because this, we could, this be considered, hey, could this be considered funny? I like the idea, I like the idea. And of course you would never do this for a million reasons, but it would blow them away if I sang stick season by Noah Conner, if you were just filthy. Now, I understand that they're children in the audience and you don't want to do that. But like, what if like everybody just knows you live live, why your guy, this is through live, why your public radio? Can you just get out there and it's like legit funny, but it's also just so blue, just so sexual that's like, everything comes back to funniest. That would be what it would have to go out.

37:34Dude, Andrew, I'm actually not even like, I'm not even kidding, or being sarcastic with you. That is such a good idea. I don't think I'll do it tomorrow night because there are a bunch of kids there and I don't have time to write it. But I would love to do that in a different environment. If I am like brought in, like if it's in a small room somewhere and it's just like you do to be like, and somehow the expectation is, oh, it's the guy from live wire, the idea of just being just unbelievably sexually vulgar and funny. Not a, you know, not a misogynist, not homophobic, not a like, not a like, no dice clay, no need to dice clay, but just like unbelievably filthy. Yeah. Especially if it was actually funny too, if it were really a joke. Well, that's the hard part. That's where, you know, I would be a great standup comedian, except it's just so hard. It's just the jokes are hard, you know what I mean? Jokes are difficult. That's the thing. Other than that, I would be, well, and I'm kind of shy and I don't like being on stage

38:36or the center of attention. But aside from that, like I feel like I can nail it. Well, the thing is, jokes are really difficult, I must say. You have said that you have been keeping a notebook, right? Are you at one time kept a notebook? Like you have not ruled out. Like you've kind of ruled out your notebook. It was a secret Twitter account that nobody knew it was me and I didn't have any followers but I would just put dry one lineers out there. But then I read a bunch of them to you one time and it was just crickets would have been. I thought they were fine, but also us just reading our own jokes to each other on this podcast just does not usually work out very well for anybody involved. But yeah, no, I was kind of keeping track of them. But I also just loved back when I was on Twitter because I had several Twitter accounts, you know, for various things that were public, but then just having this completely secret. But on its face, public account, you know what I mean? If somebody stopped on it, they could see it, but would have no idea that it was me, your friend Andrew, making these just sort of like very weird awkward.

39:37Did you observational thing? I don't know if you would have this. This is the kind of thought I would have. So I don't know if it's the thought you would have, although I do think you would cop to it if it were the case. Did you ever have a like a momentary secret dream of like, what if this account kind of blew up? What if these jokes kind of hit? And then it's kind of one of those like, hi, I wonder who's the person behind that account? I knew it would never blow up. I thought it would be interesting if I even like literally, my expectations were very low, but it's just one, I wanted a like, like again, like I never linked to this. So like it wasn't like, I wanted one person maybe to retweet one thing or something because I can't explain it like, yes, it's obviously a public profile that you're online and you're saying things. But if I don't tell anybody via my other social media that is out there, if I don't mention it on the show, and now that I have mentioned on the show, I still don't think I ever gave the name of the account out. And I keep it that way on purpose because it is so weird to be so completely unnoticed

40:41in public, which I guess has always been my dream. But you know what I mean? Like it's like you're in the most crowded, the most crowded cafeteria possible and you're standing right here in the middle of a train station. There's people buzzing around you quickly, but literally nobody sees you. That's what it's like creating an account on social media, but not telling anybody and not linking to it anywhere. That was me and my Twitter account until I started talking about it. And even then it's not getting any attention. It's just other than negative attention when I posted that one comment. But like, I know what you mean a little bit of that. And for me, it was even more, I wouldn't say more pronounced. I don't know how pronounced it was for you, but it was sort of pronounced because I am attention seeking, generally speaking, and I am kind of like, there'd be a time. Well, for instance, I reached out, I don't know why I used TikTok for this, but I reached out to Martha Kelly, who is the comedian.

41:41She is in baskets. She's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. And because she was posting this great stuff on TikTok and I reached out to her to see if she would be on LiveWare. And the answer is yes, which is cool. We're going to have her on LiveWare. But I reached out to her and it was via this like crazy TikTok account that I have. Because that's what if you messaged someone and I was like, I know this just seems like an insane person, but actually I have like a radio show and was wondering if we could have the producer reach out to have you on. And she got back to me and everything. But I guess my point is I know what you mean that it's like weird to be. Sometimes I guess I would have the feeling if I'm on TikTok and I was going to comment on something or try to interact with something, I really want to be like, I'm not just any old, I'm not as any old string of numbers out here. I am a real person with hopes and dreams. And guess what? Kind of an interesting job life too, you know? Like for me, it's again, that has to do with my own ego of me thinking I am somebody in the world. And now I'm being completely anonymous in the world like every other plebe. You know what I'm, but without even a photo or anything. You know what I'm sort of realizing here too.

42:41By the way, I hacked into my old account. None of these are funny. This I am kind of conflating my own stupid stories. I did have an email thread as emailing myself for ideas for stand up. This is just weird Twitter jokes that do not translate. They do not translate to the stage that I will someday occupy. What did you use your avatar? Did you have a profile? Well, I don't see it. I kind of don't want people to find this. So I don't want to find it by way of the profile pick. Well, the profile pick is related to the name, but I will say this. Oh, the only even now. So let's see, I was doing this. It looks like in 2022 through 2024, but very, very. We all responded to the pandemic differently. Yeah. So there's only like, there's probably less than 20 posts. And I will say I'm not going to repeat any of them because none of them are really funny. It was just weird Twitter stuff. One of them got a very, one got a like the very, no, it looks like two maybe got a like so I have no idea who liked them. I will say the only thing that's sort of making me laugh about it is. And again, I hope this isn't totally docs my secret account, but for the bio, I just

43:42wrote, I'm like the Jack Dorsey of Twitter. And I do think that that's kind of funny, but the rest of it is I will not be repeating here because I don't, I don't really stand by this. I do think it would have been funny though if somebody had stumbled on it. Listen, I have one more thing to say to you. I have one more thing to say to you in the world. I want more thing to listen to. And then and the podcast forever. This is it. I'm not making an obvious joke about you being up there and thinking, oh, don't blame the crowd when you're not funny or whatever you thought I was going to say before. Um, like you said that during our meeting when I mean, yeah, that's right. You and I said it, but I said that's why I was full way. Yeah, that's why it was where that's holding my fist up to the screen like that. And I was wearing that leather jacket. And I was in an RV with a broken fan. Let me tell you something about greaser. If you've seen his, let's not even explain what we're talking about. But if you notice that this ceiling fan has a full arm just busted off of it, seeing this Tik Toker do his little weird bits in his weird RV gives me the bad feeling the more of the RV that I see.

44:44Oh, really? And this is not a class thing. I think that it's probably probably just has it as his little Tik Tok studio. He's a weirdo. He's trying to be provocative. But it's like it is so janky inside there that it gives me the bad feeling. This is what I was going about. Goth girls now. But oh, he says if you don't kiss girls, you can't be part of our club or something. It's weird. Weird kid who's pretending to be tough online when he's clearly not very much of a tough guy himself. Anyway, what I was going to say was use that and this isn't funny or really entertaining, but it is a little encouraging words for my friend Luke from your friend Andrew. Just like do remember the acoustics when you're up there because I understand that you're going to even my very limited experience of being on stage, but for a T. B. T. L. thing and you say something. And if the laughter is a little bit more tepid and you felt like you gave it too much energy, it can just be like a kind of a, yeah, it can be, it can really affect the rest of your performance and get your head just try to remember when you're up there. Like, and also you're the first one up there for the most part or at least the first

45:47one who's even going to try to make anybody laugh. So like at least at that point, you won't have like, well, from backstage, I could hear the laughter was louder for Kyle Kanain or whatever. Like just just remember like that, the, I saw Iron and Wine at an outdoor festival one time and I was like, I like Iron and Wine. I like this festival, but this ain't working because it's just like outdoors like that. It's just absorbs everything. And so try just to like hear the as much as you can hear the laughter in your head and just put you know that that's actually know that is good thing to remember. It reminds me of a story that I've told many times on the show, maybe at the same festival you're referencing Sasquatch, but when I did, what's the one in Chicago? Lala, Paloza. No, no, the pitchfork. Sorry, go ahead. Oh, pitchfork. I, you know, they asked me to do stand up at Sasquatch. And that was an hour and I was on the poster. So that was really a bad hour of stand up. One person doing a one hour, that's like a people worth maybe maybe 45 minutes.

46:48That's a huge amount of time. That's like a HBO special. People work so hard on their material to get up to an hour. That's and it shows you're not, but you're not a stand up comedian. I'm not even joking like that's true. But I also, I did say it. Yeah, how to do. How was the laughter there outside? That's an outdoor thing. It was out. Well, let's say, let's say, let's just say it was the most outdoor laughter I've ever heard. Yeah, it was, um, it was in a tent. So I guess it was somewhere. Oh, okay. Yeah, but it's somewhere between me. Weird though. Yeah, it's just absorbed. Still weird. And like, nobody, there were no Burbank heads there. I mean, maybe there was a couple of tens. This was because, you know, my friends ran Sasquatch and they thought I was funny and they liked TBL and they just figured, I don't know, we'll give you an hour. What I should have done is maybe come up with, I mean, I had slides. I worked on this like hard. Like I had like, I had pictures. I kind of turned it into sort of like a monologue comedy thing. Like I didn't try to do, you know, 45 minutes of like, of like set up punchline, set up

47:52punchline, because I just knew I couldn't develop that much material. I tried to make it more, I don't know, something else. I, I think it was like, I think it, I didn't bomb. I don't think like nobody was like laughing their ass off, but I think people were moderately interested. If somewhere between a complete disaster and something that was successful, but I, I got ice on stage. That was when Bro's icing bro's. Oh, wow, somebody iced me on stage and I, you had him kicked out. Oh, immediately. And then, but here's what I remember. I remember that, I remember it, like, you know, not having a lot of like apparent laughter happening during the, during the show that I could really make out. That was kind of tough and it was a long time to be up there. And I don't think I ever really settled into any level of comfort, but then I left the stage. And I remember thinking, well, this is a shitty, this is a shitty way to do comedy because most of the people are just looking, they want to get out of the sun.

48:52Yeah. I bet you're in this tent. Is this where we saw sleigh bells? Yes. Number seeing sleigh bells in that tent. I think it was that same tent. It's like, maybe comedy by day and a more kind of electro type music by night or whatever. And it's like, I was like, nobody's here for comedy. Oh, by the way, as I'm performing, you can hear, I think it was the tallest man on earth was playing at a Jason stage and the music is like kind of interrupting what you're doing. Thank God it wasn't sleigh bells on that other stage, you know what I mean? Like, I was just like, this is so not ideal. And then I finished my set and then Hannibal Burris went on and murdered. That's so good. The tent. I mean, they must still be looking for him. I don't know how he's free. Yeah. I don't know how he walks free after absolutely killing. It turns out it's a grape. That's a great venue for comedy if you're a talent. Hey, just be glad that that story doesn't go the other way that you step on that stage after Hannibal Burris. And again, I'm not saying that it is a slight. I'm just saying that would have been rough. But I just learned that there's something to being a professional comedian who's been

49:57working on it for a long time and sharpening the jokes and also is Hannibal Burris. Like, it, you know, I mean, it's just like, oh, that's why that didn't work. I'm not, that's not what I do. Okay, I might be a better podcast host than Hannibal Burris. I don't really know. No, it's not. It's probably not. But, you know what I mean? But I just, you know, I feel like, anyway, that was a lesson learned. So what I'm going to be trying to do when I'm out there at the kickstand comedy thing is, I'm going to try to, I'm going to try to be YOL. I'm going to bring my own laughter inside my head. And even if the crowd isn't laughing, I'm going to be pretending they are. I'm going to be sweetening the sound inside my own head. Nice. I like this new donor music. Not even kidding. This is the one we, yeah, this is the second one we're going to be doing. How quickly I forget. Yeah, no, this is it. But I mean, we also started it stronger this time. I didn't, I didn't start it with, oh, that's what I should have done today. God dammit. God dammit. I had this idea and then it slipped out. I was going to start today with a MIDI version of the read by Batmiddler, which is, you

51:02know, the rose. Oh, it's the rose. That's right. But it starts, one of the lyrics is about the read in the water. Yes, the rose, which is even a more love. It is a river. Some say love. It is a river. I don't want to like to know what the delay is. You just heard it in real time. Actually, my ears were singing. Actually, by the way, they are pretty close. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we kind of, hey, that's our karaoke. I've, you know, I've literally never even done karaoke before, but maybe we should do the rose by Batmiddler as a duet for my debut. You know that I watched that entire movie on HBO at like 230 in the morning at Andy Enkstrom's house because I thought maybe it was going to have nudity in it because it's called the rose. I'm trying to think what I'm going to, I'm going to paint a picture for you. Maybe I'll do this tonight at Kix-Den Comedy. Tell them the story. No. I had this friend, Andy, and his parents both worked. So he was a pretty, you know, his pretty strong latch key kid energy, which meant very unsupervised.

52:06He had an older brother. We did a lot. We actually lot of wrestling. I ate a lot of junk food there that we didn't have in our home environment. And I remember spending the night. It wasn't a fun place to spend the night, but because it was, because it was so unsupervised, it wasn't like, it wasn't like his mom came in and was like, I fixed up a little cop for you, Luke, or something. It was just kind of like feral. If that makes any sense. And like, I just remember it being kind of like, it was all well and good when I was hanging out there in the daytime. And then I could just go home to my house at, say, four or five o'clock. But this was now, it's like, it's, it's two in the morning. I'm just sleeping on a recliner in the living room. Like I don't have, there's not a bed set up. He's passed out now on the couch because he's fine. I'm just like, oh, wake, they do have HBO. And I'm just watching, I think we probably were watching, you know, wrestling or something and now he's asleep because he's in his home environment that feels comfortable in him. I'm like, I know, it smells different than my house and is different than my house. I remember his dad must have been from Nebraska because he had all of these corn husk

53:11or like football magazines, like magazines for Nebraska and football enthusiasts in the bathroom, which we didn't have any reading material in the bathroom. So I thought that was weird. I was unfamiliar with that whole trend. We probably had some off brand, whatever this magazine's version of the swimsuit issue was probably like somewhere in that pattern as well. Oh, and I believe he probably had some unbrand adult materials elsewhere in that home. We were never able to find it, but that was, I'm sure, how we spent some of our days in the locate. Oh, yeah, not for lack of trying. But anyways, remember, I'm on this recliner. I'm in their living room, HBO's on, everyone's passed out by that. I mean, Andy's passed out. I'm just there staring at the screen and the rose comes on. This is, you know, when HBO was just a channel, not a streamer, so you just watched whatever came up. And I remember somehow getting in my mind, well, this movie seems like it's for grown-ups and somebody, this has got to have some kind of sex and then somebody's going to do some sex in this movie. It's also, I think, like a three hour movie.

54:11Is it really? My memory is as epically long and epically without nudity. I think it's the story of a singer played by Beth Miller trying to make it in the city world of the music business. I didn't know that, by the way, do you know why I call it the read? I looked up the lyrics. It's because the second line is, so some say love it is a river that drowns the tender read. Now, I've never known that. That's why I call it the read. Obviously, it's the rose. I'm a little bit embarrassed by that. This is how I should have started the tank. Now, again, I'm just pulling these as midi versions. Anything that won't be the divine miss M. Is that what this is all about? Is that just the same as that? No, I just think she was known as the divine miss M. Maybe she had an album of that same name. I'm going to get the energy back up. Hey, let's thank some donors, Andrew. These people are keeping TBTL going. What you are listening to, believe it or not, most of the major advertisers have passed

55:13on this. I don't get it. It is 100% listener supported. And it's supported by folks like Chad Bates up there in Baffle Washington. What a familiar name. Year in and year out. So many of these folks have supported people watching. And I know the types of performances I've turned in on this show. Yes. Chad Bates has been donating. Yes. He continues to do so. Chad has, thank you. Has heard it all. Yes. And is still here. Thank you, Chad. Thanks to Lavania Axel, who's in one of my new favorite talents. Andrew Ashlandore again. That's right. You were talking about the Oregon Shakespeare Festival. Yeah. Did you get anything? I got to wear my jacket this week. It was raining so much that I had to wear a jacket, like a hooded thing between the house and the Madrona Hill studio. And what did I grab? My Oregon Shakespeare Festival jacket. Yep. That I bought. It seems like a good weight. I haven't seen it. But I mean, I've seen it on the screen. I haven't felt it. Yeah.

56:13It seems good for this time of year. My problem is I have a nice jacket that's kind of a drain resistant little jacket. And it's kind of lighter. But there's something about it. It's almost like built too well. And once you zip it up, it really contains the heat. And this time of year, I was saying, I said this to Veeves twice yesterday. Just hoping it would be more interesting the second time. I always try that on back up all the time. But we're just in that time of year. And again, this is probably my favorite time of year, when it's not actually raining. But just like when there's a little bit of a, you know, just whatever, this will fall, taste of the air or whatever. But like it's so hard to regulate your temperature because you, I feel like I'm always either too hot or too cold. I put on the jacket, I go outside, I start walking and now I'm too warm because this jacket's a little bit too heavy. If I take it off now, suddenly I'm too cold. I bought this very designy rain raincoat like slicker, I guess you might call it like a yellow rubberized raincoat like Christopher Robin would wear. And I bought it, you know, it's from Norway. It's very cute. It's very much a statement, but the same problem.

57:15It's like, it's so waterproof that it also just like trash all of the heat in your body. That's my deal. And genuinely speaking on a rainy day, whether it's right now or even in the winter time in this area, if it's raining, it's not temperature that cold. It's not super, if it was freezing, obviously that rain would be snow. So I've realized that there's kind of actually never the ideal conditions to wear this raincoat, which I boxed. I thought it was so cute because it's like, if I'm wearing it, I'm probably kind of shfitzing. I'm sweating up a storm inside the raincoat. And my Oregon Shakespeare Festival jacket does not do that. The jacket I got in Ashland, Oregon, where Levinia Axel is from. Thanks, Levinia. Thanks to Laurel Price. Another name. MCYATTLE, Washington. We're putting up with our BS for quite some time. That's right. Thank you, Laurel. Thanks to Kristen Reicher, who's down there in Austin, Texas. I miss Austin. I do too. I miss Barton Springs, which I've never even swam in. But I tried to go there during the pandemic and it was turned away.

58:16Really? Remember that? I saw a picture of the other night of Barton Springs in Austin. It's amazing, giant. Maybe it's, I think it's a natural swimming pool that everybody goes to in the summer. But it's right, kind of right in the midst of the city. It's just a very cool, yes. I remember before our trip. I remember the urban environment. Yes. It didn't ring about it first, but as you're describing it, this was part, we never went there as part of our TBTL trip. But people were either telling us about it or recommending it. Yes, yes, yes. That's not true. I tried to go there. I actually know what? I think Becca and I tried to go there years ago, because we were in Austin once, and we were turned away because it was the pandemic, and it was only Austin residents were allowed to go into Barton Springs. There were so many, and I'm not turning this into a conversation about the pandemic, there were just so many ad hoc decisions that were being made that my thing is, those decisions were all made in good faith. Like, yeah, could Barton Springs have tolerated me and Becca, which by the way, it's outdoors, could Barton Springs have tolerated me and Becca being there on that day?

59:18Yes, indeed. But were the people who were making those rules trying their best to figure out how to at least mitigate some stuff? Also yes. Yeah. The thing that makes me crazy is when people go, well, you know, a lot of that stuff we didn't have to do. You're absolutely right, but that doesn't mean that we need to arrest Tony Fauci. Of course, he just wanted to be a celebrity. He just wanted to hang out with celebrities. I really wish he wouldn't have kept that diary. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know public computer. He wish he had. I'd such, it's so cringe, but it does not mean that he is a war criminal. No, I think I'm going to go out on our limb and say our friend, Kristen Riker, agrees with that. I think if Kristen didn't, this wouldn't be the show for them. Thanks, Kristen. Thanks to Annette Streak of Brampton. Ontario. Hey, our friends in North of the border. We still call it Lake Island. We're downloading map quests over here. That's right. That's right. We stand in solidarity. Absolutely. And in fact, if you would like to take over, if you guys would like to forcefully take over this country, we will happily lay down our arms and let you drive right down Main Street.

1:00:24You can roll coal. Or I'll take up arms. Or I'll fight for you. Just roll maple syrup all over us. It's such a, well, I mean, that's kind of a private thing about your life that I don't really need to hear about right now, but sorry. I'm sorry. You're like, please. I know. You know, please don't cover me in maple syrup. Oh, my, oh, that would be the worst if I got covered in maple syrup. What am I doing in impression of? Who is that? What is that? It's the Brad Pitt thing. It's the Brad Pitt thing, but it is a little bit of the Tom Sawyer thing of don't, oh, I don't want to paint this. I don't want to let you paint this. I don't want to let you paint. But that's not exactly what you're doing. Are you doing a Winnie the Pooh? I don't think so. No, it's something more. I'm Winnie the Poohing over here though. Oh, you know what it is. It's so obscure, Andrew. It's so unobstructed. Do I know what though? It did ring a bell. No, nobody knows it except me and like three people. There's a show that I really got into called Very Important People that is, I've told you about it on the show a little bit, but it's where they take, I think it's dropout

1:01:26TV and they take an improviser and they put them in an extremely elaborate makeup scenario where they like, it's hours and hours and hours making them up into some odd ball character. And then the improviser is, they don't even know how they're being done up. They don't know anything about how they're going to look, what they're going to look like. And then they are finally shown in the mirror what they look like. And then they have to improvise a character based on what they look like. And then they are interviewed on this talk show called Very Important People in the Character. Okay. And there is an improviser named Lisa Gilroy who I think is one of the funniest people in America right now and who should, if there's any justice in this world, will become one of the more famous comedians in the world. Years from now would be going, remember Luke, when you saw Lisa Gilroy and very important people and you were trying to tell everyone about her, she's unbelievably funny and they made her up in, she's been on the show a couple of times, but they made her up into

1:02:30some like weird yellow monster character. Dude, the other person, I'm texting her furiously right now, Genevieve has been trying to get me to watch this. Very important people. This particular sketch where somebody is, I think it's Lisa Gilroy, but it's, you're describing this and I'm like, wait a second, this is the thing that, because I can't remember if I've even seen it at this point or if Genevieve has just described it to me so many times, but she's cry laughing and she quotes it. Of course you two have both stumbled and she's not a big tiktok or anything like that, but somehow it came across her Instagram or something. And Lisa Gilroy, so it's this like yellow, imagine grimace from whatever McDonald's lore, but yellow and with a slightly different face with little horns and like a pig nose and some weird kind of fangy teeth. And for some reason, Lisa Gilroy decides that part of this character who I think is maybe from hell or something really likes being spanked, but is really going with don't spank me. Okay. He's trying to get that.

1:03:30I don't know about that. Vic, who is the host? I think her name is like, or their name I think Vic uses their pronouns, but Vic, let Ligelis or something. Anyway, the host Vic doesn't want to spank Lisa Gilroy, but Lisa Gilroy is constantly being like, I'm just a baby, don't spank me. This is not going to pay off and I'm going to try to play this a little bit of this from Instagram. I don't, I do what I'm just a baby. So what? No, okay. Somebody, okay, so no, no. No, you see you're just a baby. I'm just a baby. Okay. Is there somebody's kid? No, I'm not doing it. You're running towards me. Okay. And then hey, hey, I'm just going to, okay, and then it's fine. So I'm just wondering who are you? Spencer. Oh, the character's name Spencer. Okay. Spencer, okay, Spencer, where is your parents? My dad is mad at me. Your dad is mad at you? My dad is spanking me. Don't spank me. No, I'm not going to spank you. Why are you doing it like that? Don't. Don't do that. We can't do that here. Don't spank me. I'm not going to spank you.

1:04:31Spencer, how did you get in here today? Spencer is backing towards the host. Spencer. Spencer, how did you, Spencer? Hey, Spencer. Spencer. Spencer, I'm not, I'm not doing it. Spencer, you stay over there. And you're going to stay there. Spencer, how did you get in here? Where is your parents? Hey, come on. Speaking some made up language from their land. Hey, we're okay. You're okay. Just, no. Spencer, you're dead here. So the Spencer character starts crying. The host, Vic walks over to come for, and then Spencer merely turns and presents. Spencer's butt for spanking. Don't spank me. So that's what I was, that's what I was doing. That's what you were doing. I was even consciously, but that was why I was saying you were being like Spencer, being like, don't roll me in maple syrup. That's what that was. I am waiting to hear back from Genevieve right now, but I, Luke, that is so weird. You're like, no, nobody would like free me into other people or whatever. There's four people, Genevieve's also a little bit of love. And Genevieve, and like, but the thing is like, you haven't shared this. Like, you didn't introduce it to her or vice versa, but somehow she stumbled on this

1:05:33as well. And I again, this isn't something that she just kind of casually mentioned. Like, and it's like, oh, yeah, this is kind of funny. I mean, somewhat recently, she said to me, she, because she does the same thing, I don't know if it's exactly that part that you were quoting, but there's some line from that that lives in her head. And she says it a lot. And the other day I was like, what is that again? She's like, I'm so mad that you won't just sit down and watch this with me. It's the lady who dresses up like the monster and has to do improv. And I can't believe that you two are both obsessed with the same thing. And I'm just sitting here ignoring you. I really, I think that show is great. People should definitely check it out. It's called very important people. I think about Lisa Gilroy is that I've also seen her interviewed not as a monster, just as herself on various like podcasts and stuff. And she is just devastatingly funny, so, so funny. So that's what that was. You know who else is if I, we said four people, five people know about that bit because Cara Greenwald of Seattle, Washington, if Cara didn't know about the bit, she does now.

1:06:35That's right. In fact, we've just grown the list from five people to, I don't know, over 15. Except depending on how many people are listening. That's what I was going to say. Thank you so much to our donors for making the show possible. Thank you for donating and thank you for not spanking us. Hello and welcome to Top Story. Interesting story out of, I guess, Nepal or exactly, yeah, Nepal and China, the border land between Nepal and China. This was a story in the New York Times written by Adam Papskiew writing about some of the problems associated with how popular climbing Mount Everest has become. And we've all seen the photos at this point, right, of the kind of line of people waiting to get to the summit on certain, at certain times. I mean, during the times of year, when I guess it's maybe safest or most optimal to try to climb Mount Everest. And like, you know, who doesn't? Well, I was about to say who doesn't. And I don't want to listen.

1:07:35I don't want to assume anything about you, Andrew, but I am guessing that climbing Mount Everest is not a thing that you have considered or that would be a big deal to you one way or the other. Would that be true? Oh, it would be a big deal, but it's not something that I want to do. You could like snap your fingers and have climbed Mount Everest. No, would that be something that you would? Because would I remember it? You would remember it. No, I have no desire. I don't want to camp out in my backyard for a night. Are you kidding me? I think there are, I will also never put in the work to learn how to climb Mount Everest. And at this point, it also seems like it's kind of become this odd thing where it is both really, really, really hard to do, but it's also at the top of every, of a certain kind of person's bucket list, which I'm not going to only one neighborhood over from, by the way. Like, I probably would never try to do it. But would telling people that I climbed Mount Everest make me feel a sense of pride? Would I like to be able to tell people that? Yes. Absolutely. We probably don't have time to get into in this top story. But I mean, that, that, I remember regretting being a little bit, not sharp with you one

1:08:42time, but maybe a little bit high-handed with you one time about that one you spanked to me. Well, you kept saying, don't spank me. But I was hearing it, but I was kind of poking my butt out at you. So honestly, in your defense, I was sending mixed messages. But there is something, and I'm going to be honest here and it's going to sound a little insulting, and I don't mean it to be. But I do think there's a difference between you and I in how we look at the world being, is this something that I want to do, or is this something that I want to tell people that I did? Oh, yeah, I mean. And I know what it was. It was like when you were talking when you were interviewing the murder of a nose, and just kind of like you were looking around at this world that they had built on, like, but none of that stuff sounds like stuff that you want to do, like managing people and having a big team and going into the office. And like, you don't want to do any of those things. But you want to be able to say, look at my kingdom, you know what I mean? And so if I think with Mount Everest, for me with Mount Everest, it would be, I would also want to challenge myself to do it. So the doing of it, the being done with it and being like, wow, I made myself, I pushed

1:09:44through and did that hard thing. I think that would, as opposed to your absolute right, running of a larger podcasting operation where mostly what we did was manage your real decisions. Yeah. But that would not, on a day to day basis, be very fulfilling for me. But the Mount Everest thing, I mean, hey, listen, you climbed that giant tree for that story and then did you, was it a zip line? It wasn't a zip line, whatever. You've done some pretty big adventurous thing. So you have it in you. I have, I think, I do think, you know, again, I think I would be capable of doing the training and climbing Mount Everest, but I don't, I don't want to do it badly enough. And again, I think it's really expensive. And also, again, it's become this thing where during certain times of year, it's almost like, I don't know how to describe it. It's like, it's more to get the photo at the top and say you did it than the experience because there will be a line, a two mile long line of people just standing still. And by the way, if we have any listeners who have climbed Mount Everest, I'm going to try and take away anything from the accomplishment of it. But there's something about seeing that line of people standing, waiting to take one step forward, to take one step forward.

1:10:46And everyone's like getting their selfie and then it's like a step in repeat. Yeah, does it really? That a vac? I've seen photos, but I didn't realize it. That's the experience, huh? I don't think all year round, but I think during the time of year that it's like maybe safer to climb or something. There's some reason why there's this real bottle neck at certain points. But Adam Pepesky writing in the New York Times says, let's see, with record number of climbers hoping to summit Mount Everest's peak, Mounts become a tourist trap. It's especially apparent at Everest Base Camp where there are espresso bars and big screen TVs, fast Wi-Fi and hot showers. This actually sounds nicer than the Scientology Resort. I was at recently, this sounds kind of like an upgrade. A new study reveals the costus activity has brought to the thawing of the Kumbu Glacier which researchers estimate that about 3 million kilograms of glacial ice and snow is being lost each spring. They said one of the most shocking findings, human urine is responsible for an estimated 154 tons of melt on the Kumbu Glacier, human urine.

1:11:52This is people peeing on the glacier is melting 154 tons of it. If you drink more water, you have to let it out. Said, Kim Laoghautom, a geospatial scientist who is the studies lead author at Nepal and Nepal's chief survey officer referring to the bodies need to hydrate more at higher altitudes. More than 6,000 leaders are produced daily by thousands of climbers in guide. Pit vault toilets collect waste at the base camp for about 2,000 people, which is hauled downhill. Most people just urinate on the glacier, a water source communities drink from. You don't need to be a scientist to see what we're losing more ice every year. You can see it with the naked eye. Naked eye said Gautom. Although the impact of human urine is concerning Dr. Sudhi Thakuri, Nepali climate scientist, associate professor, co-author of the study said it's not surprising and that the urine ultimately does have less impact than all of the fuel that is used for the heating, cooking and the lighting. I guess I was just surprised to hear that people peeing on the glacier was able to get

1:12:57rid of that many pounds of ice and make me wonder. I know there's the description of, again, I hope that we don't have a listener who's like been training for years to climb Everest and is about to do it and I'm like yucking there, yum, but just hearing about the like satellite TV and heated floors and carpets and bars and things down at base camp, it doesn't feel like whatever Sir Edmund Hillary was like setting out to do. Did Everest ride into South Pole? I was going with Everest there, although now you've made me as insecure as you are. And here's the thing, and I know this is the wrong Everest. He did Everest. Edmund Hillary nailed it. This is the wrong takeaway, obviously, but you would hold it. No, the peeing on the glacier thinks sort of won me over to wanting to do Everest now because I know that that's the bad thing we're not supposed to, but I have probably said this on the show before. I know I've said it to friends before and it's a little bit more in the skatological category than I usually go, but like I love peeing on ice when you go into.

1:13:59Oh yeah. Tell me if I'm right about this. Does it seem like the ice in the urinal is reserved for higher end or lower end establishments and not in between or do they never do that in a higher end restaurant? And maybe I'm just thinking about being a kid. I think you're thinking about being a kid. I don't think I've ever seen it in a high end restaurant, but I would like them to add it because I'm with you. It's one of the most fun. You know how the whole thing now for a lot of higher end bars and restaurants is to have kitschy stuff that is reminiscent of a lower end place. Like not the ultimate high end, but a version of high end is to be like, oh, we're, you know, we, whatever, we do tauts and smash burgers, but we're a Michelin star restaurant or bar. You know what I mean? It's like this idea of like high culture and low, you know, high brow and low brow colliding. We're going to do, it's going to be high brow, but we're going to do low brow with a, but with a wink and a nod. I want to go into a cool high end bar that's just tossing ice in the urinal.

1:15:00Yeah. Yeah. Tossing ice. I love that. I'm so satisfied. Yeah. It just is. And when you said that, wow, you're like that, that glacier is like how many, how, 34 ton, how many tons is 134 tons or something? A hundred or so tons. I was like, oh, yeah, I could take a piece out of that. You ever pee in your yard? Sometimes. Yeah. Well, you know, this is, I didn't really know if I wanted to get into this, but I told you that having a dog, I don't know if we talked about this. I talked about this with maybe somebody else, but like having a dog really makes you see the world in a different way in a lot of ways. Like I've seen, you know, curb your dog signs a million times in life and just never really thought about it much. But I was walking around a neighborhood the other day. I was like, my God, this neighborhood, like everybody's got to like, don't let your dog pee here. Which by the way, I totally understand because I now see what happens to grass when it's peed on by a dog. Like, I always had sort of heard that, but I didn't really notice it now. It really? I'm not trying to be a tooth here. It really does. Yes. I was really surprised when Lucy was a little puppy when we first brought her home.

1:16:03There's a specific stretch along the side of our house, the north side of our house, where we would always take her. It's kind of, we have three steps down from our little deck area and then we let her pee in the grass there and very, very quickly. And this is also one of the rare places in our yard that stays green all year round because the roof of this house, the overhang of the house here combined with the shadow that is cast by the garage behind the house. I know this is too much detail, but like here in the Pacific Northwest, once summer really hits, like all the grass just dies. It's just because we don't water our lawns and the sun just baked the hell out of it. And so you'll usually only have a couple of months maybe at the beginning of the spring and early summer where it's green and lush. This one area of our yard stays green and lush the whole year round because it's blocked from that direct sunlight in various ways. But it now has all of these dead spot, or at least yellow spots in it. And I actually bought this stuff that's supposed to be earth friendly, but it's supposed to

1:17:05like put nutrients back into your lawn. Then I was experimenting with this this summer. And now when I walk around in neighborhood, I'm like, oh, areas that I thought were dead grass are obviously areas where dogs like to pee in the neighborhood around certain poles or around certain mailboxes. And now I just I just see that and it's so funny. I'm like 50 years old almost. I know I'm not quite as whizzing as you yet, but as it were, but Lucy was whizzing in all over the place. And I'm like, oh my God, that's not just a trope for the loony tunes. You know what's interesting is that when I was living at the Mount Baker studio, and I there was a period of time where I would pee in the backyard and I thought I was killing the grass in certain spots and I wondered if like that was something going on with my body, either the indicated alcohol use disorder or I don't think I was on any medicines, but I remember thinking like this is there would be dead spots, dead spots where I thought I had peed.

1:18:06I wonder if it was Momo. Oh, yeah. It might be because it's never I've never had that happen again and I've never stopped peeing outdoors since then. But I remember thinking like I wonder if there's something physiologically going on with me because I'm occasionally, you know, it'd be at at night. It would be dark. Nobody could see me to be probably after a few small beers and I'm out there. Maybe we're like playing horseshoes or doing some silliness and I'm peeing. And then the next day I would notice or at some point I would notice, oh, there's a little dead spot in the lawn. I wonder if that was the dog. I wonder if there's looking as I was looking at it's saying different about there. You're in a you think I've been being peed on the same stretch of lawn every day. That would just kill it too. I was just googling that and it says, I mean, this is the AI overview of Google saying yes, human urine can kill grass in the exact same way dog urine does because both contain high concentrations of nitrogen and salts. But maybe it was you or I mean, but it's it's not like, hey, you know, you and Momo still have I would hope different constitutions or whatever. So I still think that your theory might be right because you told me there was an area

1:19:08of your yard and in Bellingham that you would use sometimes behind the pool. And it wasn't like carry at the time. Wasn't a huge fan of that. But I actually understand your appreciation, let's say of sometimes it's being like, hey, we can do this. And I'm not a man who's like super into like the ownership society or ownership class. It's not a leading principle of mine. But I will say there's something about both times I've been like, you know, I can just do this as long as it's private and nobody can see me. And like I remember the might have even been the first night we moved into this house or early on in the first couple of days where we had a little fire and our little solo stove that our friend and realtor Sarah gave us as a housewarming gift. And we had a fire going and I remember saying I got to use the bathroom and she said, just go on the yard. And I could tell the Genevieve wanted me to be kind of enjoying the idea that this is our territory now. Like it is almost like primal. I don't think she was like, mark your territory. But like just enjoy the fact that this is our little plot to do with what we want.

1:20:08I know that this isn't supposed to be a conversation about the AI overview, but this is kind of interesting because you just said you did a quick search, internet search or whatever we call it now. And you got a response that said they're the same, right? Yeah. So I'll tell you exactly what I typed in. What I got. I typed in it does human. And I was talking while we were typing. So does human P kill grass like dog P question mark in the AI overview I got, which then links to its source material, which is something called rural sprout, says yes, human urine can kill grass the exact same way dog urine does because both contain high concentrations of nitrogen and salts that burn the turf. Now I put in the search is human P different than dog urine? Mm hmm. And AI overview. Yes, human P and dog urine are chemically in concentration wise different. But you didn't ask about the grass thing. I was asking specifically. I would guess that yeah, human P and dog P being different, but both having some of the same, you know what I mean? These aren't mutually exclusive. I don't think my results are going to do an experiment.

1:21:10Is human P less bad for lawns? For lawns than dog P? So my question is, okay, here we go. Yeah, you're right. Human P and dog P have similar chemical makeups that can burn grass, but human urine is generally less damaging. There you go. Only because it's typically diluted or applied differently, which is what I'm wondering is if the search response I'm getting is because the nature of my question is different. It's like I'm looking, is human P less bad for lawns than dog P? I'm looking to find out that it is less bad. And the AI overview is telling you it's less damaging. Yeah, I wish that my, because that makes sense to me too. Like mine was basically saying yes, it can. Both can harm the lawn, but yours is more helpful, which is like yes, they both can, but one is less likely to or is it would take more of because it has less of this certain compound or whatever. But I'm just wondering if like if basically we're getting different, you know, answers

1:22:13because the system is somehow understanding or think it's trying to anticipate what the answer is that I'm looking for versus the answer you're looking for. And then it's just basically like kind of trying to give us that response, even though it could lead us, it could cause one of us to be incorrect in a way. I will say, you know what? Yeah, I was still going to say, I don't know though, but mine kind of gives a more broad answer, yours is more specific and they're not mutually exclusive, except this AI overview. And this is where I think AI really burns itself the way I burn my grass with my dog's pee is I think it just inserts words here and there to sound more human or whatever because it says exact same way here. And that's a problem with this. It says yes, human urine can kill grass, the exact same way dog urine does. It should say similarly, but in higher doses, or concentrations or whatever. Here I go once again with the email every week. I hope that it from a female. Oh man, it's not from a female. All right, emails or emails.

1:23:15Yeah, you know, I'm in trouble over doogie house. Have we ever gotten pulled from doogie house? I think so. I think we talk pretty quickly over top of that. Listen, I want to be honest with you here. We're in a little bit of I have a great voice mail that brings up an ethical question involving apples, but I'm going to save that because that's natural. That's something we can actually talk about at some point. And I know that you have a little bit of a deadline here to get out of here. So I am going to play a voice mail for you here that we don't have to spend tons of time on. I just want to share it with you, but I want to set this up and I also need some participation from you on this. Okay, I love that. I am emailing you a couple of MP3s right now. Okay. And just hang on. I'm going to change the name so you don't know what they are. And I want you to hang on to these. Download them to your computer while I play this voice mail and get ready to fire them because we might need them or some other sounds that you might already have saved on your computer. Yes, I know I'm sending this without a subject line, Google. Just calm down. We're podcasting here. You should be able to figure that out. All right. So that's in your inbox now.

1:24:16We're heading your way and we're going to need you to play those files later. But first let me play this voice mail from listener Kevin. And I got to be honest with you up front here. I am such a jerk for playing this. Mary Lutkin Andrew is Kevin in Olympia. I just got a new freezer in my basement and it's still got the plastic wrap on it. And I just wanted you to experience this with you as I take it off. So at least be able to hear the satisfaction of the check. Listen. Oh, it's a nice new freezer. Hand full of plastic wrap. Power out. Unfortunately, modern phone technology heard that as extraneous noise and clearly cut it out of the voice mail. It's just like it filtered it out somehow.

1:25:18So what I sent you Luke was a couple of Kevin needs to well, Kevin just needs to buy another refrigerator. I might better just write it off. It's a tax. Thank you for trying Kevin. So what are you going to do? I sent you a couple of pieces of audio. I choose one of them and then play it at the appropriate time so that we can give Kevin his day. And Andrew is Kevin in Olympia. I just got a new freezer in my life. I want to make sure I'm doing this right. I have sound one and sound two. Yeah. I'm going to be super satisfying, but I did my best to find the matter which one I think may I don't know maybe one is better. I can't remember but just go ahead and play that when we hear the silence. We'll have the plastic wrap on it. And I just wanted you to experience this with you as I take it off. You'll at least be able to hear the satisfaction of the check. Listen. That's what I should have sent. And hindsight I should have sent that to you.

1:26:19I should be the one who's joking here. I actually sent you two sounds of actual tearing sounds but you're right. I should have sent you that. No, let's do it. No, I don't know. I don't know the things that you want. No, that's better. That's better because the sounds I grabbed were not that great. It's really hard to. Oh, is that is there an SFX of that on that? It's not you think that's right. I tried to find something. I think that sounds pretty good. Let's try it. Let's just try it real quick. I'm going to just go back to the end. I'll set up here and then choose one of those to play at the right moment. I grab on it and I just wanted you to experience this with you as I take it off. You'll at least be able to hear the satisfaction of the check. Listen. I did it. Oh, shoot. Oh, it's so nice. New freezer. That was pretty good. Hey, we did. I messed up the timing. I'm sorry. I messed up the timing.

1:27:19I was trying to end it right when Kevin ended it. I really needed to play both of them. Sorry, I don't know. It wasn't scientific. If not for the gap, if not for the gap that I created, that actually would have worked pretty well. It was okay. Yeah. I didn't really have that timed out that well. You didn't mess anything up. I thought it was a pretty wacky idea. What is it called those? I don't know. What are your people's parameters? Because obviously, plastic thing on appliance is not something that the sound effects community is good. What did you go for? I typed in, is it okay to pee on my neighbor's lawn if I'm with a dog? And those are the sounds. And I got the exact opposite of this one. Why is it not okay to pee on Andrew's lawn? Can you wrote, can my neighbor pee on Andrew's lawn as long as a dog is watching? No, honestly, those sound effects, I put in something like plastic ripping off or the peeling plastic off of something and what I got was, I think those are actual sounds of people maybe cutting or tearing plastic, which is a little bit different. But anyway, I just wanted to make Kevin whole again because I listened for real.

1:28:24I want to encourage that kind of thing. I love it when people call for a clean bathroom or shame eating, power eating a Wendy's double burger behind the RBS for some reason. Yes. Take us with you. You know what I mean? Like, if you're having an adventure and by the way, I use the term adventure loosely. Yes. If anything at all is happening to you and you think it might be interesting to us, take us with you, break that phone out. Honestly, that's still good content even if we can't hear the thing being ripped off. We're so here for it. So see that we have your back. Even if there's any, we'll fix it. We'll fix it in post or live if need be. But next time you find yourself in the twisted T section of SARS or something, go ahead and document that and we should tell people what number to call. 206-414-8285. That's 206-414-TBTL or Record of Voice Memo and email it to me. We're going to go through it. TBTL.net. Exactly. Moondome.

1:29:24All right. That's going to bring us to the end of our broadcast week. Thank you everybody for spending this time with us. We're going to be back here on Monday with more. Imagine Monday, by the way, is the Labor Day, right? It is. Yeah, it's a holiday day. Labor Day will be laboring away, bringing you a brand new show on Monday. So do join us for that. It means I have a great weekend. Everybody, take care of yourselves and please remember to mount them to tall. Thank you. Look to all. Power out.