#4810 Fair Enough

0:00Excuse me, can I talk to you for a second? How can I help you? My date's eating all the fully loaded nachos. All the ones with the meat, cheese, and everything. The ones that are fully loaded, cheese hogging them. So I'm mostly getting just chips, mostly just chips, like nothing on them, but a little bit of cheese and maybe one little nugget of meat. Okay. Can you say something to her? Say what? Maybe go up the table and just say like, hey, stop that! Or like, hey, that's not allowed. You want me to go over and say, stop eating the meat on the chips? They just say the restaurant has rule. It's not you. It's the rule the restaurant has. That if you get an item to share, you can't. One person can't just eat all the fully loaded ones. Like, don't look around. Find the one with the most meat. And always eat that one. Yeah, do you just ask her to share with you? You just say the restaurant has a rule. TVTL! In the next hour, we will present information that's both shocking and enlightening.

1:02You're everything is not an anecdote. You have to discriminate. You choose things that are funny or mildly amusing or interesting. You're a miracle. Your stories have none of that. I'm a Grammy Emmy Tony and Webby Award winning and nominated songwriter, artist, designer, director, editor, animator, producer, collector, party thrower. That was great. That was good. You went for it. I appreciate that. You embarrassed me in front of Derek Jeter. You embarrassed yourself in front of Derek Jeter. And I also think it wouldn't hurt to talk to therapists about your bathroom missions because there's clearly something going on there. Well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome everyone to a Tuesday edition of TVTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. It's an audio files nightmare. My name is Luke Burbank. I'd like to grow a pair sometime. And I am your humble host.

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3:04I don't know. We're gonna try to figure that out. Speaking of documentaries. I watched one last night about, remember that a break dancer in the Olympics? Uh, her break dance name was a ray gun. It didn't go super well. And performance that I would put into the category of embarrassing. Uh, well now we've got her side of the story. And I can relay that to all of you if you're interested. This is a guy who does not know the meaning of the word embarrassment. He's the longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Each morning he yells this into the mirror to get hyped up for the show. He is Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning. How was the, uh, fair yesterday? It was good. Um, you know, I, I actually made it through the um, sky ride with minimal. Um, I don't know what you would call it, uh, sort of intrusive thoughts. I just kind of, I, I talked to myself out of it. I said, uh, out of being afraid.

4:06I just said, this thing has been going on for years and years and years and it's never collapsed. What, how, what do you special, Burbank? What do you think this thing's going to collapse on your watch, on your ride? It also helps talking about this like it's almost like a ski lift, but it goes over the entirety of the, of the fairgrounds there in Salem where they have the Oregon State Fair. It's a permanent installation. And I don't want to say anything bad about our, our friends who install carnival games. Although I did once have a stand-up comedy joke that said, who should we have, who should put these rides together? Uh, upon which our very lives depend, uh, maybe drifters with nothing to lose. Um, but this, that's not the thing I was riding on is not put together by drifters with nothing to lose is. It's a permanent part of the thing and I, I was also reminding myself of that. So I, I enjoyed that also. Here's the thing. What did Mr. Burns say, chairs, the great levelers? I love sitting. Everybody enjoys a sit. Yeah, from, from the lowest low to kings or whatever, whatever the heck he said.

5:10I love sitting down so much. Now my girlfriend is not big on sitting down. She likes to be in, in motion, in movement. If, you know, she just likes standing. And I'm always looking for a reason to sit down. Now yesterday we were staying out in Salem at her mom's place. We went on a run in the morning and by the time we got to the fair and we're walking around. My legs were a little tired. My feet were a little tired. I was looking for places to maybe take a load up, take a, take a moment to sit down. We went into the pavilion where they have all the like, um, you know, things for sale like the cut conives and the hot tubs and, you know, you're really want to see the bleeding edge of unscientific technology go to your local state fair. They've got, surprise Russell Wilson didn't have a nano bubble. Booses set up there. It's like all kinds of infrared bullshit that like you get inside some, you get inside an egg that looks like the thing Harry's sure is trapped in during spinal tap.

6:11Uh-huh. But it's shining all kinds of, you know, it's $40,000. Those will let you start a payment plan and it's being sold to you by a drifter with nothing to lose. I love that part of the fair by the way, but we go into that pavilion because Becca needed to use the restroom real fast. And I was like, aw, the perfect chance to take a seat. But every, and they do this on purpose, every surface that you could possibly sit down on to take a load off was in fact a product they were trying to sell you. I was going to say that you'd sit down in that egg you would have bought one by now. I mean, well, I knew not to sit down in it because I would have bought one. Yeah. Like I didn't want the smoke they had Andrew these reclining massage chairs. We've all seen the ones at the airport that you sit down in it does all this is next level. This thing goes fully horizontal. You disappear into a, into a grand canyon of massage rollers and whatnot. And there was, I would say 50 of these chairs set up with nobody sitting.

7:15Nobody. So yeah, the thing about anything like that, whether it's the kind you pay for because you supposedly might need a little relaxation, you know, in the airport or if it's like a Minnesota public or Minnesota public. The Minnesota airport in particular is that is that where you took a ride. They got some by the Alaska Airlines term or you know gates and that was where I learned that if you don't put money in the alarm goes off. Oh, that's right. You can't just like a regular. No free sit. Oh my god. That's so ridiculous. Or even a, you know, like a showroom style like this where you're supposed to try it and then potentially buy it. Like I just like I could never get comfortable enough, especially I mean, I'm trying to think what is worse an airport or a state fair for people walking by and watching you bliss out or something. You think airport is where because you're more concerned about the eyeballs that are in an airport is that way? Absolutely, but there are a lot of those are people that have legal ID and are allowed to fly on air. Yeah, those are high class individuals. Yeah, I'm more embarrassed in front of them than the Hoi Poloi that including me that they led into the state fair.

8:15But there's the Hoi Poloi thing, but also there's just the like, am I really relaxed? Well, I was going to say next to these goats, but I guess that's a whole thing that you know about goat yoga. But I don't know. There's something dirty about a fair. There's something outdoorsy. There's something crunchy about it that is kind of like, oh yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to get I'm going to get a public massage at the state fair by a robot. I don't know man. Well, I would have just taken a regular old chair, but the thing was I knew as soon as I got into that massage situation, I could see there was like two guys that were over at a desk and they were just like ready to pounce. Then they had these like different part of this area, but still adjacent to where the restrooms were where like these kind of sort of a glider kind of a thing that you have on your porch that looked so comfortable. They were individuals. So imagine like a, you know, like a porch swing or something, but now they've got the kind that have their own structure that's built around the, you don't have to attach them to your porch. They're in this frame and you, you know, you rock back and forth comfortably will now the next generation of this is you don't have to share the seat with the person next to you have your own seats.

9:22Yeah, I think they have the, the AMC's now. Well, yeah, and I know you love speaking of public relaxation, one of your favorites. But I guess maybe too many American marriages in the upper Midwest were falling apart because the, the married couple didn't want to be rocking at the same pace. Well, we fixed that problem now because each person is in their own little and again, very reclined chair, your feet are up, you're laying back, but you're, you're rocking to exactly your own beat. That looks so comfortable. I mean, one of number glider totally set it to your, you can set the temperature, you can set the firmness. Having forbid any of us tolerate. And by the way, I put myself at the top of the list of the people who can't tolerate any discomfort, having forbid anyone tolerate a moment of something, something not being the exact specifications that they choose. Yeah, I mean, isn't it because I, you know, I just, I have a very fond memory of those old school style gliders, the kind that were like kind of a very, I guess was aluminum within the very, yes, very plastically.

10:22I love those things. They're cool looking. Yes. And the one we had was probably, you know, from the 60s, I have this floral print on it, you know, just like to push down cushion or whatever. And I used to sleep on that, you know, that, that was my ideal summer. That's the dragon. That's the summer dragon that I'm always chasing was just like, you have a fun day outside running around chasing yourself around the backyard. And then you spend the night like in the cool basement, because the house is too hot. So you sleep on this glider that's still like creaks really loudly when you get on and off it and you read your Archie comic books that your neighbor's sister gave you from the 1970s and you listen to your McDonald's rock and old these. How are you able to come up with this purely hypothetical situation? Yeah, that's what I'm saying, man, this is never happened to you. It's oddly specific. That's what I'm saying. Like that's the dragon that I'm chasing that is like the ultimate summer, you know, literally listening to the song summer song by what is it Chad and Jeremy or whatever. So anyway, like I just I love those gliders so much. But like when those gliders are on a porch or if it is just a traditional porch swing, like part of.

11:25And again, I don't want to tell people how to like I sound like old man yells at cloud like you do it. Get your do hikis, get your zingolings. I don't care. There does seem to me for this old man part of the pleasure of it was sitting on it with somebody else and then getting into that rhythm of swinging together or if your kids maybe purposefully like kind of getting out of rhythm a little bit and then bugging your sibling or your parent or your friend or or like I don't know that that's the point of those things. Now we have these little I know I go to the Wally model of relaxation pods that we all have now. And again, I'm railing about this as if this thing you're describing has taken over the popular imagination, which is not just some do hikki that you saw on the stage fair. But I would say that that is sort of the pleasure of sharing one of those rockers. Absolutely. Again, these looked unbelievably comfortable. And I said to Becca when she when she emerged from the restroom, I was like, if those things didn't look like a by the way, the aesthetic of them was my one of my big problems with it.

12:26In what you've described that kind of aluminum glider, I love that I love that kind of 60s vibe. These were like if the black doubt tattered American flag became a glider. Everything is like militarized and murdered out and powder coated and and and tech. I feel like half of the ads you'll see on TV or for like sunglasses with their like technical or technical like military grade flashlights. Everything has to have some weird like almost like militaristic energy to it. Yeah. It's like it just was so the opposite of like like that glider you're describing. It's like it's like a cup of country time lemon. Yeah. And this is like a cup of like hard mountain dew or you will to go to your reference yesterday. It's like a black rifle coffee. It's like a big cup of a rifle coffee or I guess you didn't say black rifle. So you said that what's the other one that I'm kind of missing out on the down there in Oregon, the chain that everybody's. Oh, Dutch brothers. Dutch brothers big cup of Dutch brothers coffee. Yeah. And they also I just want to say there were.

13:27I almost went and sat on a bear mattress because they're also selling mattresses there and the mattress sales guy was pretty far away because it was a really big footprint. I thought I could sit on this mattress for probably 45 seconds before he gets here and then I have to have a mattress conversation. All that is to say, Andrew, by the time we got to do the sky ride over the fair. And then we have a whole tradition. We go to the far end. We get on the sky right. We take it one way across the park and then it puts us down where the dairy wives. I think I called it dairy bar yesterday because I'm an ally. I don't know if I want to frame it as dairy wives, but that's the ice cream thing of Oregon state fair. The trad bar. That's right. And so by the time we got on the on the like you know the ride. I felt like that I felt in being allowed to sit down and socially and by socially acceptable by my girlfriend context. I don't want to say that that is policing my sitting down, but I want to say that I am policing it a little bit when we're together because if I have 10 seconds to sit down, I will take advantage of it.

14:30Literally like if someone is if we're if we're talking to someone and the other person has now it is become the part of the conversation where they are allowed to share some of their thoughts and feelings. And if I perceive that that's going to be more than 10 seconds, I am I'm finding a place to sit down even if it's just for that duration of time. And so it's not the Becca's telling you to invite you to invite them to sit with you or do they stand over you. Oftentimes and I'm not kidding, they're just standing because they're thinking we this isn't a conversation that necessitates sitting down. This is like a conversation that a lot of normal people a lot of people that aren't wired the way I am would just have that conversation standing around and I'm like this feeling this might be over 30 seconds. I probably should be sitting for this and the other person is left awkwardly standing. So I'm trying to figure out what's situate is it sometimes or is it more of a lean sit like I know there's a guard rail here and I just sort of lean against it and sort of I'll tell you exactly the situation that happened yesterday. I get back from my run so back and I went out on a run together in the Willamette Valley.

15:32I was not doing as many miles as she was and so at a certain point I headed back to the homeland and she kept going for a while so I get back to her mom's house. It's just me I walk up the hill get to the house and her brother and his wife are sitting out on the porch they are strapping on their running shoes they're about to go out for their run. And we're sort of chatting and this whole conversation about whatever it was I mean nothing important was it was very obvious to everyone involved that this is a we're passing each other I'm coming in from her and I'm about to come to the show with you there on their way out this is not this is one minute two minutes. And they're they're standing on the porch they're about ready to go and I'm looking around for somewhere to sit down and there's a like a planter box that looks like it's sort of concrete and then there's two of them there's one on each side of the front door of the home. Don't have any plants and then they did at some point but now they don't for whatever reason they're just ash trays huge like outside of goldies.

16:32Yes that's right obviously. So imagine like a like a one foot by one foot square kind of cement planter box that you could put soil in and some nice little shrubbery to kind of zazzle up you know the entrance of your house. These are now empty they don't have any sort of they're still sitting there though. I go over because there's no chairs out on the porch this time and I test I push down on one of the planters on the on just one of the walls of the rim of the planter I push down it and it seems stable. And I sit down on it and about 10 seconds later it collapses underneath oh no we would tip over like it's no breaks oh no it's not concrete it's like chicken wire. With some sort of concrete looking spray decorative yeah decorative spray so that these look like they're these you know heavy duty concrete planters but they probably like two pounds sure yeah.

17:35And so the wire sort of crumbles below you but yes I had had the chicken wire now the chicken wires now exposed. Some of the stuff is coming off coming on I can 100% picture this even though I've never seen that before and this is at. Rebecca's mother's house. Oh now how is this not the lead story yesterday and today I did take a stop. I'm so process. Sorry yeah now I was mortified of course you were and I was like oh my god I am so so sorry Scott and if we're like dude it's not a big deal first of all look at it and I realize oh the backside of it was all kind of destroyed. This thing this thing was like the all of the chicken wire was already exposed on the back all of this spray stuff was sort of coming off this is very this thing this thing was really on the way out and I was able to kind of like uncrumpled and I returned it to mostly the state that it was in when I got there which was to be honest with you not great. Okay. So like but the very fact that in this one minute I was like where will I sit let me sit on this planter is that just indicates how my mind works on these things and how it can sometimes be I guess a little bit awkward but all that is to say had a nice time.

18:49At the fair it was very fun it is once again all about the birria everybody's trying to put birria and everything and I believe if I remember right when I first learned about that that's like a kind of like a Mexican beef soup right and I don't know what you're talking about I was waiting to get to a point where I could follow. I think birria and I'm you know me and my rolling my Rs. Is that a burger king? Yeah me and my bull today it took me a while to figure out what our friend broadcast Barry was actually saying about that hungry jacks of a Australia of hungry jacks because he's in Australia was in Australia recently. God what a what a globe to our friend Barry from broadcast a coffee he and his husband Sam ran the Sydney marathon. This is he just like ran the Dolomites or some shit he was like running in the Alps and now he's I know that's not the same mountain range but anyway then he's in Australia but he takes a picture of their version of burger. King hungry jacks and he writes this string of letters underneath which I took me about a half a day was only saying.

19:50I got that right away I can't say. I wrote it I I was trying to teach myself how to roll my Rs by saying the name burger king in I thought Spanish although that might have been incorrect I was trying to say. Bure. Bure. Just like walking around saying it never quite worked out but birria is a rich savoury meat stew made from goat beef or lamb slow cooked in a fragrant red chili sauce and broth. I know about a birria from just like I don't know being in Mexico and eating it some Mexican restaurants. It got really popular for some reason as like a food cart thing a few years ago and now it's not even like the soup version it's like there were at least 10 places at the Oregon State Fair that were offering. Birria mac and cheese so like your mac and cheese but it's got also a bunch of this like very savoury probably very delicious meat on top of it.

20:50Everything has been birria atized at the state fair that appears to be in Oregon anyway the big the breakout star of the last two of the Oregon State fairs that have been. It does sound good and I'm actually kind of weirdly happy to hear that they're adapting it to more fair-esque food. I mean there was a time when even mac and cheese wouldn't seem like a fair food to me again I'm not as you it's I'm not trying to police other people's fair experiences. In fact I haven't been in so long I think that my idea of a fair is pretty antiquated but I'm very basic when it comes to baseball games or fair food or something of a traditionalist right and the idea of sitting down like that's the one thing and I you know Luke I don't think I have to defend my reputation to you or anybody when it comes to soup I love soup and nobody tells me how my body process is soup I've tried before. But I don't know the idea of seeing down to a big heavy stew on a you know a sunny day at the at the fair doesn't sound especially appealing to me and and hard to manage to yeah it's just mac and cheese but like yeah it is it is stunt food which I mean we all know this about state fairs but it is kind of crazy just like to look around at the ways in which these food stands because yeah you know when when we used to go to the Puealut fair I think that the edgiest thing they had was like an onion burger.

22:07Which I just think was a burger that had a lot of onions on it was actually a burger though to it wasn't just a burger slice of onion. No no no it wasn't just like onions in lieu of the of the hamburger it was just like a hamburger with a bunch of onions on I remember that was by the way that smelled amazing for the record you'd smell the onion burgers at the Puealut fair long before you actually got into the fair grounds but it you know over time it's just become this this kind of arms race about how how weird can you make the fairs. Food and then now also how enormous can you make the signage for your food stand so these food stands again not to oh I found out recently that our friend friend of the show Dana Gould is the person who came up with old man yells at cloud which you oh because that's from the Simpson he was a writer on the Simpson and there was and he used to I guess he had a dog he and his wife at the time. They had a dog that would just be barking for no reason why what is the dog barking I was just barking at the clouds and so they needed something for like a weird newspaper headline because that's actually what the context of that is on that episode it's a it's a newspaper article.

23:19It's a simple and it's a simple and difficult it says I think it's it's Abe Simpson right old man yells at cloud it's Abe Simpson yelling at a cloud yeah nobody ever says that line also isn't Dana's wife or wife at that time she was a big exit I mean this is another story Netflix or something I thought she I think she was a big wicket HBO who had a huge role in the success of Game of Thrones I believe oh that would make sense Dana Gould did the show when we did it live in L.A. at the Trubidor at Doug Weston's Trubidor and he told a joke that was remarkable I think it was about 11 minutes and it was just the just for one punch line about the black dolly murder so experimental I don't even know if it worked but I had to tip my cap to him because it was ambitious it was like it was a long long long long long build up for the very end punch line of the joke but I'm but yeah the signage now so you'll have these you know and it's all very extreme and this is where my the fact that I don't eat a ton of meat anymore although I did have some some chicken at this place called a malarkees I mean I had like

24:26a bite of like a I don't know what you call it not a popcorn chicken there's like a fancy place where they couldn't they're not allowed to sell you something called popcorn chicken it's they got some other better name for it but that's basically what it was so this is a stand at the fair or this was no I'm jumping around a lot over the weekend see restaurant called malarkeys that's such as that's such a silly name for a fancy place well the guy who started his last name is malarkey I love Ryan Malarkey I think he's from Oregon originally he was on top chef years ago and this is like this it's very let me just say Andrew I don't know if it would be for you in that he's kind of a big personality the restaurant has kind of a big design the personality it's just got like a lot of just it's it's pretty showy and pretty like kind of I I believe there's a stripper pull in the bathroom or something which I mean I did not avail myself of but we were there getting some food and the folks we were with had ordered some kind of like chicken I don't know bites or something breaded chicken thing and they said they took a bite they were like this is like the best one of these things we've ever had in my life you got to try this and I said okay I try to bite of it what made it good was at the texture of the chicken was like a

25:35especially no they were somehow this lime like the the batter had lime in it so it was like a lime it was like a lime pepper chicken thing somehow they had like infused this with so much it's it's it was as if you had just squeezed an entire fresh lime right over it which it also came with a side of like a wedge of lime I was from a from a molecular gastronomy standpoint it was kind of interesting I don't know how they got it to taste this way but it was really I mean I feel like I have to self report anytime I do consume a bite of me because people sometimes refer to me as a vegetarian and I want to be very very clear that I'm not I don't claim that but but but even even so I don't like going to the fair to eat you know as much read me as I possibly can and it feels like they're just are all of these and I can't give you great examples which is why this is not a particular interesting anecdote but you just have these like stunt food booths that also have these you know the booth is maybe 15 feet the physical structure and then there's like 50 feet of crazy sign of all these pictures of the food and they're like we're going to take this and we're going to stuff it inside this and deep fried inside that and like we dare you to eat it looks like we're gonna report ourselves

26:47when we're done with all of this yeah yeah March right over to the police station and yeah seriously like it really it's like it's like it's it's they there's insane names for the food booths again I know that's kind of like the fun for people and I don't want to yuck and yeah that's kind of the thing that that is it's become the draw for the fair so why would I say that's not that's you know that's no good or whatever people should I think I'm not going to the fair so you know I if I go to the fair my thing is I think I like to pet the animals I like to pet the goats the thing about the Minnesota state fair which you and I have been to now granite haven't been there for a while I will see tick-tock feeds of of people who like I'm going to eat every of everything new at the Minnesota state fair this year or there's always there's always some new kind of leading edge of um of like funky food technology going I guess Becca said this year she thought it was a pickle pizza so a pizza that's got like slices of pickle in in lieu of like pepperoni and also some kind of a dill sauce that's

27:48something that was the Minnesota one or that was the Minnesota one oh and also the is it I'm gonna say the trying the hung corn dog come on corn dog that was the one I saw a lot of headlines around that yeah I feel like the Minnesota state fair though they have actually fun interesting silly weird stuff they're like pushing the edge in a way that I kind of find I find it fun and entertaining I feel like these ones at the Oregon state fair it's like or it's like the Oregon state fair doesn't have the whatever the it factories of the Minnesota state fair the Minnesota state fair and also the Iowa state fair and there as well uh these are iconic I mean these are arguably the biggest state fairs in America in terms of attendance in terms of where they exist in the culture of the like loke of the state in question and because of that I feel like they attract the best and brightest of of interesting foods and so to me the fact that every year the Minnesota state fairs gonna have something truly kind of interesting and weird and I might not like it but I'm kind of interested in if people like it or whatever and I think pickle pizza fits into that the the Oregon state fair doesn't have that it just

28:53has these gigantic meat stuffed in a meat stuffed in another meat and then shot at you from a cannon or something that seems to be their kind of the last few years I've seen the same giant turkey leg I've seen the same just like it doesn't feel like it's actually kind of clever in the way that the Minnesota state fair ones feel clever to me it feels like it's just in it just feels like it's it's just sort of aggressive in lieu of being creative like they feel like they're out of ideas so they're just making it bigger and meteor this is the jacked up truck of foods basically and it also involved a jacked up truck because we wandered into this insane performance we were walking by one of the pavilions I did not mean to do an hour on the state fair today we've been asked a we we got to keep things kind of tight today I've got a live wire recording that I'm on a clock for and there's some other stuff too that I want to get into including community calendar I've not forgotten my friend oh yeah yeah yeah we'll be bringing you the community calendar here but we see this line to get into the like pavilion and

29:56we're like and we're like boy there must be some pig in there throw a little charlotte's web reference that you all there must be something in there that's real cool who knows what it is but I did clock that next to that pavilion there's a massively jacked up branded Budweiser truck not quite a monster truck more like if a cyber truck and a monster truck had a had a illegitimate child that's what this truck was it was like it's it's not either of those trucks but it was this huge jacked up Budweiser America 250 truck and it's just like all customized to just you know kick ass and take names and America 250 heck yeah and we walked by and we're just like God in the world is this coming to this country people are taking pictures with the truck I was like don't take pictures with the truck please please do not photograph the truck please do not we please never speak again people are getting the autograph of the truck they're asking the truck

30:58for autograph please sir people are from the truck people are proposing to the truck I was just like oh man this doesn't this doesn't I don't feel good I don't feel I'm slouching I'm not handling this well so like so we walked by we don't really clock much because it's crazy line to get into the pavilion but then we've gone and we've seen kind of everything else we've seen the crop we don't have crop art we've seen the like art submissions we've seen the we've seen the cut co knives we've seen all the different things and we were like we end up at back at that pavilion and now there's no line and we're like oh maybe there's more cool stuff in here so we walk in and they're taking like tickets but for some reason they don't even care they don't even take a ticket from there just like usher us in the place is freaking packed and there's some bizarre overly dramatic dance performance happening on stage and I'm like a lot of people involved are so low dance performance a lot of people I'd say like maybe 15 people on stage and they're and I can tell that what they're trying to do is tell a story through dance so it's like you know

32:01so it's like but this isn't for the record I want to be clear this isn't like a traditional dance from like say you know a native people or some other country this is like it's like they're trying to do a dance about the movie red dawn it's like the color pattern of it I can tell that something aggressive is happening there's a small child and there's people that seem vaguely militaristic and then there's the other people that are that are in kind of drab clothing I think it's like the drab clothing people are being oppressed and then they're like kind of like you know what I mean something's going on I'm like I'm like why is this packed like on the one hand I was like are do we're all these people in line for a dance production because if so I'm kind of with that yeah like I I consider dance to be a fairly edgy artistic form like I'm like all these people decided to go to a dance performance and sail them or again at the state fair okay but are you are you employing so red dawn just to be clear for some reason my brain glitched out that's that's the 80 the famous 80s movie that's very like propaganda and it's about the invasion of it's is it Cubans

33:05who and it's some sort of copy and they did some red country yeah I can't remember didn't they have to switch the country at the last minute because of like the when they remade it I think they don't know that's what it was original one it was um that's what I believe it's said in Spokane Washington oh right and it's written by that guy who's kind of a bonkers right and what what any is like a huge conservative guy who I think the John Goodman character from Lebowski is quasi based on him or am I crossing my I might be crossing my my wires on this stuff but in fact I I know I'm crossing my wires I retract that and I redact it um but uh anyway sorry to take up time on this story but are you are you saying that like you wonder if the draw of this was like harshly some sort of like go America we must protect our freedoms kind of yeah well that well that's okay so this I'm actually glad that you kind of clarified the red dawn thing because because yes and yes okay I walked in and I was like I'm happy that people seem to be paying attention

34:07to a dance performance but I also feel like this dance performance is weirdly propagandistic and I can't put my finger on it but I don't like it uh huh sure I don't know why I don't like it but I don't like it um and and so we just you know we we didn't even get a seat we just walked in we watched it for a couple of minutes we walked out and and you love sitting I am I am I am on the record as being one of the number one fans of sitting and so we walk out and I was like what was that and like there's no sign there's I keep looking for like a marquee or something that explains what I just observed and I was like we had to look that up later and then I completely forgot and then when we finally got to the car when we were driving home Becca was like what were we supposed to look up and I was like what was that dance well Andrew it was America 250 okay it was the America 250 show featuring some members of America's Got Talent okay so this is a traveling show it's a straight straight from direct from Las Vegas I'm I'm doing this from memory but this is

35:09all on the like Oregon State Fair website what we had stumbled into was some um and the Budweiser truck is part of it basically it's all part of the America 250 F. Yeah Pavilion by the way I redact my redact and retract my retraction it is John Millius who directed and if you Google John Millius he'll look just like John Goodman in the big Lebowski and he is the man who made red dawn and I believe it was just like yeah so Google John for whatever is with M. I L. I. U. S. John Millius and get a load of his look his beard and his glasses and he looks just like I can't remember that's creative Walter right Walter yeah Walter so check yeah so anyway when I watched red dawn I watched it my friend Joe Doleens house and I I remember it was a summer day I we must have rented it and that would make sense to because you know I went to a Christian school and there were very conservative values being held by a lot of the parents and stuff and so to me I just thought

36:13red dawn was just kind of like an action movie that everybody was watching but I'm it's it was probably a thing that you know was also politically aligned with his Joe's parents at the time and and maybe would have been aligned with where my parents were at but I just remember watching this movie and it was pure propaganda about the red menist that was going to be coming and separating American families I think it's his Harry Dean Stanton I think yes revenge me boy that's what Jenna I think he was in the hand plays way these dad it's being held in a being separated by this like cyclone fencing or whatever yeah is that the same as like chain link fence yeah the metal fence I don't know why it's like I don't know whatever that's a different fencing yeah and he yells avenge me boy and Genevieve always says that to me when she goes to pick up like a some sort of a craigslist item or something she says I don't come back of that tree boy it's her favorite line for the movie I am gonna get her that I'm gonna get her that either t-shirt or hat that she can wear when the pets are trying to talk to her that says I just mentioned this on the show the other day not now honey

37:14mommy is low-balling people on Facebook marketplace that's real dead of you energy and I love it I watched that movie and I remember walking out of Joe's house in a days because I didn't have the ability at that time to separate propaganda from I mean it was doing exactly what it was designed to do was making me feel deeply unsafe it was making me feel like it's not it's not if but when the red commies come here and put my dad Walt Burbank on one side of a chain link fence and me on the other side and they march all the dads off for execution or whatever and I remember it was still light out there as I mentioned it was summertime because it was one of those nights where it's like still light at like 830 and I'm walking back home to my house in just this like fog of like feeling like this is imminent you know and like just a horrible sad scared feeling of and it's and and I don't think I even learned until maybe the last time this came up on the show that it's

38:15well known as a propaganda film you know what I mean I didn't understand that at the time and so I just took this to be like an action movie that's also portraying something that is very very likely to happen to me and my family and I need to now have a low level anxiety about this for the next 15 years of my life and my low level I mean high level anxiety or sometimes I couldn't fall asleep at night and I'm not saying this to pile on or be glib about this either but you're also a child who is also growing up with this inherent fear of kind of the end times and the end of the you know like you had a some sort of a grain crushing machine right in your basement oh yeah yeah my dad we could grind up like you know yeah grains in case there was in case we that was how we needed to process our food because of the coming world crisis yeah and you know I don't have a very articulate way of putting this but I know I've said this before on the show that I know for a while as an adult that I like going to the grocery store I think I kind of realized how much I like it when I heard that like some famous coach it might have been Bill Bella checks said that he doesn't go to the grocery store because he's rich and he doesn't have to anymore and I'm

39:18overthinking like oh my god and that's when I clicked in for me I was like wait I like going the grocery store it's not just a chore but I do think that maybe part of my enjoyment of the grocery store is the idea of there will always be plenty and I grew up very privileged in that way you know not not super living high on the hog but like just there will always be plenty with just sort of I always felt safe I always I never I never thought about oh like someday this will run out and then I think during the pandemic I had like some pretty well everybody did I'm not sure to sound unique here but like when you walk in and you see just empty shelves and I was like I never thought I would see this and it like that really implanted something in me when I go to the grocery store today and I see that they have rubbing alcohol I'm always like yes they have rubbing alcohol they've had rubbing alcohol for five years now but I just remember the long empty shelves of it and so where are they getting toilet paper back because I haven't used it I don't I mean I'm just using the sandpaper you gave me until they get it back anyway I'm going on a long thing here and making this about me but I do sort of I don't think sympathize with maybe empathize or vice versa because I didn't live through it but like you're adding this level of invasion invasion paranoia on top of

40:24this also idea of like we may run out of food tomorrow and whatever else like it was sort of churning maybe in the back of your brain a little bit you're absolutely right I think because of all the biblical stuff about the end times I was also a bit predisposed to this kind of to just feeling you know fear about this stuff and I can not to get I know like a lot a couple weeks ago for some reason I went into like two straight days of like self-reflection itself interrogations I don't need to go back there but I I had a very happy childhood in a lot of ways and I was in a very loving family and that's immense amount of privilege that you know I didn't ever wonder if I was loved and that's again not everyone can say that the stuff about being constantly afraid about the world ending I wish had gone differently for me and I wonder sometimes if some of my other behaviors and adult life which see like it's you would think they would be unrelated but I don't know I think you get some kind of like just you get some sort of like anxieties and fears and kind of just bad feelings kind of woven into the mitochondria of your being and I think that that stuff can

41:27manifest in all kinds of weird ways and you can try to ameliorate that in all kinds of unexpected ways throughout your life but I really think that when I walked into that dance before which yesterday and I don't even know I wasn't planning on talking about this and I didn't say these words to Becca like I don't know why red dawn came out of my mouth but it's exactly what it felt like in there and again I'm looking at it now America 250 live the description of it it just was like it's just pure America propaganda and and I think it's I think we were just there for the dance part I think it shifts into like a whole bunch of different crazy stuff that goes on some like I don't I don't know what else happened in it but but American people live as it's land thing spectacular yeah a spectacular show that defines the American experience resilience innovation and imagination and no healthcare and people going bankrupt that's right because of getting ill and people living on the street next to the enormous wealth go ahead we're erecting a temporary

42:33tent where we can show you how great America is not far from more permanent where people are trying to find shelter this choreographed show weaves together high wire thrill acts a breathtaking immersive laser experience and elite stage talent from America's got talent Guinness world records and the discovery channel to honor the milestones and enduring character of the nation and they don't write this but I'm just gonna add this in make sure you take a picture with the Budweiser truck yeah right it's all coming together I'm starting to understand like how your feelings about and by the way just like a plus to us today no I'm not even being sarcastic like this is how you talk about the fair we're getting into some major feelings about growing up paranoid and propaganda and what what have you but like I understand how this all ties together and how like you're looking at the Minnesota State Fair from afar and feeling like there's a little bit more sophistication to what they're doing there whereas I feel like you're having some pretty kind of red America reactions to

43:34everything that maybe it was maybe not everything but it's sort of overcast your experience yesterday yeah because when we were at the Minnesota State Fair walls that was like the last thing we saw before we left so that probably was my parting my parting impression but like the thing Minnesota State Fair it's got like the butter carving contested it's got you it's got the butter queen got some nice 14 year old gal sitting in a refrigerated room being rendered in butter you know and like I don't know there's something and I'm I'm sure there's things that I'm missing and forgetting about the State Fair or things in Minnesota that have happened yeah that have happened in the intervening you know eight years or something since we've been there but there's something about those state fairs and I've been to the Iowa State Fair as well that it feels like there's enough classic stuff there's crop art that our friend Brandy Brown does there's just enough there's just enough of the classic element of it that I just maybe there's not quite as much room like for instance there's the like FA what's the FFA future farmers of America there's the FFA

44:35musicals at the Minnesota State Fair yeah I saw one of them they put on a musical with the farm kids I'll take that any day and twice on Sunday over America 250 F.Y.A brought to you by Budweiser and you know Morgan Wallen yeah and who's yeah and who's on tour and just like dropping by so they can do this and then move on to the next fair ground or yeah yeah so I guess I guess it's sort of like it felt to me a little bit like again whether it was the food or the entertainment the sort of if you don't have the like if you if you don't have the long rich tradition of the Minnesota State Fair or the Iowa State Fair something else seeps in and that's something else it's just like it's just like you know strangle yourself with the world's longest you know birria mac and cheese while you watch one of the lesser lights of America's Got Talent act out the creeping commy threat or you know so I say I give the State Fair about a B you would about a B

45:39well well well it's that time again on the show where we thank the donors that's right this is a hundred percent listener supported podcasting we we're gonna run ads for the Oregon State Fair this year but so amazing they pulled out and by the way you know I want to say here as gonna say this to you off air but we won't have time you sent me a note last night saying you're in a tight deadline today and I can and I acknowledge it but completely forgot about it this morning so I was just kind of cruising in like a regular day let's save the community calendar for tomorrow I don't think there's any harm in that there's nothing let's do the community calendar today all the events happen today no yeah sure let's let's let's boot no let's boot the we can boot the top stories and do the community calendar after we think the don't okay if we if we have time not well sure okay if we have time for that we can wait for tomorrow but for real sorry that I forgot about your deadline oh please no don't don't worry about it at all um uh we want to thank Michelle Hall in Long Beach California hey thank you Michelle uh thanks also to Cindy

46:43Lotter Milk of Maple Valley Washington do you know I'm thinking of the beautiful places around Washington and I'm thinking after everything you just said I still want to go to the Washington State Fair do I have time I I don't know I think it was the last day of the Oregon State Fair my guesses that Labor Day it's kind of the end of the line oh well for these things and just in all honesty or in all to be clear I absolutely I'm not trying to dissuade people from going to their state fairs or even going to the Oregon State Fair like we will go next year it was still fun I still like doing it I just think that the America 250 Budweiser truck kind of did throw me a little bit but I I don't want to be I don't want to be anti-state fair because the other thing that we were saying as we were on the sky ride was like this is people getting out in the world and being with their families kids are making core memories um you know it's it's people you know and again this is such a such a boring take but it's like these are people out there with their kids nobody's really

47:48on a screen we're doing fun things we're trying to like win a stuffed animal by throwing a ping-pong ball at a floating duck years I just like I don't know it's it's a good thing that it's happening and that people are coming and that people of different backgrounds Beku is wearing a this car talk t-shirt that I got her and she said what's the over under on people who would know what this shirt is about well and yeah show that it has was a public radio staple but has been off the air for 20 years yeah yeah yeah and I was like and so we were I was trying to do sort of like back of the envelope about like well there's how many people here how many thousands of people here and yes it draws maybe a slightly less urban crowd or maybe a less public radio inclined crowd but it also draws on older folks some of whom may have you know memories of it's also car relating I was gonna say yes if there's one show that's sort of crossed over but first of all it was from an era where things weren't quite as siloed in the in the culture yeah that would have been more of a crossover I was thinking the fact that it's and I was saying to beck's like

48:51it's car related so you got a couple of old guys rule kind of do sure yeah couple of old guys rule who are like maybe not even public radio heads but they knew about it because they'd hear somebody be playing it somewhere and they'd listen in because it's so many time about a catalytic well as probably before the time of the catalytic converter but you know someone's talking about a fuel pump issue on a on a nineteen sixty five something or other but it draws on my point is that the state fair was it draws in a wide variety of people and being in space with that wide variety of people I think is good for all of us yeah you know yeah absolutely and some small amount of people were exposed to dance performances which is not usual for them so that's all a good thing thanks also to Mackenzie Sargent who's in Bureen washi Mackenzie thank you I always say it thank you for donation and thank you for helping me with lodging for the thing festival oh that was Mackenzie Mackenzie I'll never forget I was never forget this was always pays their debts oh wall should never forget is true but usually has to do with grudges this is one of the rare occasions where it's actually a happy

49:56memory so thank you not true I think you remember if someone does you a solid as Mackenzie did it's just like Nicole Kidman where we get some oh yeah that is occasional issues sure Joe Fulture is over in Redmond Washington thank you Joe for the donation I know that if I needed lodging yes in port towns and you would be there for me or even in Redmond or Redmond yeah isn't your doctor in Redmond now my doctor isn't Redmond and it's a you know it's a bit of a long train right out there I never forget where your medical care is next time I go out there maybe I'll just stay on Joe's couch that way I don't have to make the long trek did I don't have time never mind you're ahead that's actually something that I'm actually that I'm realistically considering you may be hearing more of TBTL my side of TBTL originating from the south waterfront of Portland or again for the next few weeks because they are closing i5 down oh right and it is exactly between my house and Becca's place and my house and live wire and my house and anything I need to do in

50:58Portland and it is unclear like I'm hoping that this is one of these things where they're like absolutely freaking our chilly out so that it ends up being a little bit less bad than we're expecting but I mean this is what was the one in LA they were like carpocalypse or something that's right yeah I forgot they were gonna close they closed the 405 or something I'm hoping that they're trying to terrify us they're trying to red dawn us I think I would have come up get in by the way that makes sense yeah karma get knit I just realized you know how different everything in my life would have been if my parents were more obsessed with red dwarf and less obsessed with red dawn yeah red dwarf the like British space comedy but I'm I think I'm sure coming from a a political lens that I would find much more in in in this day and age much more aligned with you know I've never seen red dawn I know that people I'm sorry red dwarf I know that people I love it but I totally is one of those BBC comedies that you know we didn't get here in the states until like 20 years after it was off the air but then we did and it had a whole

52:01second life over here I they're in space is like a sitcom set in space and I don't think that it's particularly convincing from a special effects standpoint but but it's just you know that's the backdrop to which in front of which all these things happen but um anyway thanks Joe thanks to Leah cheerlele hey shoreline Washington speaking of my speaking of longtime friends of the program and one time I want to say preschool classmates of mine you know what's ironic I mentioned yesterday during the show that we were recording on labor day that I was missing a labor day brunch and it was with Leah's brother Dom what what I'm trying to mind who I haven't seen in a long long long time and your friends with Leah's brother yeah one of my first friends um and he's married to one of my first friends when I first moved here to Seattle so going back a long ways and uh I don't think I don't think I've had the pleasure of meeting Leah personally but Dom is honestly for a fellow that I haven't seen probably in over five years just one of my favorite people in the world we love that

53:06that's absolutely great you've probably told that me before and I've probably forgotten it but there and I always mentioned this every year when we thank my friend Leah there is a photograph somewhere I hope that my parents will exist of me and Leah from Haller Lake preschool or something it's like a can't we're I don't know what's going on if we're like listening to the teacher or something but it just randomly involves me and our friend Leah and here we are this 45 years later for 47 years no probably wasn't three years old but many many years later we are we remain connected through this thing called TBTL thanks Leah thanks also to Bernie Schneider who's in Graffelping by-earn Germany nice now now there was a little bit yeah I'm noticing this now um or something there was a little bit of a um kind of uh what would you call that a type of graphical yeah there's so it looks like it looks like wing dings in our spreadsheet here some of the we got winged in replaced yeah so I'm trying I'm hoping that I'm saying that uh right Bernie

54:08uh from over there in Germany but my goodness I don't know if there's any photos of Bernie and myself in uh preschool together um but I'm no less appreciative of Bernie's contribution uh thank you so much Bernie thank you to all of our donors for making TBTL possible now are you we cannot do this with that you know I'm sorry for stepping on you are you sure you have time to do fire when ready I've let the live wire folks know that I'm going to be about five minutes late migrating over to that recording process well then ladies and gentlemen it is time for the TBTL community calendar god that hits is this on the list of songs that are getting us pulled up no this is cleared this is why I have this yes this is our trade become the new the new intro theme of the show this is this is our tradeo music this is our community calendar music this is our little bit of when you drop kick your jacket when you come to the door no one cares yeah I mean this may have to just become because we're learning that even catch my disease now listen nobody

55:12freak out we're not going to get ready catch my disease but we are yeah we're we're we remain on the watch list yeah even though we fixed our donor music we're still in we're still getting big trouble feels like a problem all it's over there just on Spotify there are a lot of ways to find TBTL these folks on TBTL we have several meetups coming up and it was like they're all hidden kind of it once I thought this is really cool I got a note from our pal Stephanie and Brooklyn who is helping organize a New York City meetup Saturday okay everybody I should have said get your pens pencils and paper out this is Saturday September 19th starting at 2 p.m so this is September 19th starting at 2 p.m central park sheep meadow lawn I'm going to explain exactly how you're going to get there do you know that without what I'm about to say without the further details do you know where this would be Luke from your time I'm definitely been to sheep meadow lawn in central park it says enter the park at central park west and west 67th street walk straight into the park toward the

56:14big open lawn in front of you and just look for the mint green balloons and some tens wearing TBTL junior sluggers shirts do you remember seeing that when you were there TBTL junior sluggers shirts I don't remember seeing that in central park I would have I mean can you imagine how stoked I would have been sounds like this is just a fun meetup in the park it says feel free to bring food or drinks for yourself and or to share and to discuss the New York City Tens slack channel oh I see oh I see they're saying bring food that can then be discussed later on the slack channel I think oh I see I don't know what's on there but so so this is not this Saturday no this is the following Saturday in central park in New York City and what's the time again local 2 p.m. 2 to 4 it's slated but who knows I mean if things would get going maybe it goes to 4 30 maybe even 5 who knows I mean what I can tell you is that this is the time of year to be in New York City I think they called the shoulder season whether it's kind of like late spring before it gets too hot or early

57:17a kind of late summer early fall before it gets too cold this is the time to be in central park gathering together with some other Tens and and enjoying enjoying this special special time in New York City do they call it that I'm not joking it's gonna sound so stupid you're gonna think I'm joking but is it because like the weather you're starting to bundle up you don't have to fully you don't have to fully cover everything like you can still leave your shoulders exposed if you're wearing one of those 80s sweaters that sort of tilts to the left I don't really know why this is what AI says shoulder season is the travel period between destinations peak season and off peak season most commonly falls in the spring march to mayor autumn September November in the northern hemisphere it doesn't seem to see why would they call I don't know why they say that I don't know there's any chance I'm right about that there's just no way I'll I'll accept it I mean that's as good of a reason I don't know why I was like imagining the calendar is linear but then having shoulders somehow like I don't know it makes no sense I don't know why somebody will tell us

58:20why it's called well if the peak tourist season is your neck and the off season is your arm my back the shoulder connects to yeah I know I know where we're going there will be no talk like that at the New York City this doesn't help in many places the question now is why is it called shoulder season in many places like North America and Europe summer is the peak season and winter is the slow season this makes spring and autumn the shoulder months yeah but why isn't that's how shoulders work why bro yeah why don't all right let's move on so that that's Saturday right that's Saturday 19th now let's move forward in time a little bit to Thursday September 24th this is where you can meet up with fellow Portland listeners in Portland got some notes from Katie and Christina who wanted to let us know the Thursday September 24th this starts at 515 at Selwood Riverfront Park which I believe you know well Luke the Selwood Riverfront Park sure I love it down there I am

59:22back and I have done many a walk crossing the Selwood bridge heading over there and yeah that's for real this you you may even be staying in that area at this point right because this is September 24th yeah I might be down there so yeah that's September 24th there's a Thursday's 515 probably that time maybe to let people get out of work and then travel there a little bit but I'm sure you can show up a little bit late it says dog and kid friendly bring picnic blankets that is the Portland meetup and again I think most of these are also their details about these on the Slack channel on the Facebook page if you're over there or if you're having trouble reaching any of these folks you can email me andrewatvtl.net and I'll connect you you were talking about Minnesota a little bit ago Luke how about the Minnesota 10s meeting up at 3pm on Saturday September 26th so this is one week after that New York City meetup if people are paying attention to that kind of detail Minnesota meetup 3pm Saturday September 26th at Brickstown beer company in Burnsville Minnesota now I

1:00:23meant to look at this dude it's a lot of bees Burnsville is outside I'm guessing this is outside the Twin Cities right this sort of Twin Cities we just had somebody donating from Burnsville yeah this sound the last two weeks I bet you're that they're associated with this outfit yeah I'm sure yeah certainly so I'm just kind of taking a quick look here on a map but yeah okay so the south of Minneapolis it looks like what other details do we have about this let's see is it Brickstworth beer company in Burnsville 3pm on the 26th it's a brew pub but they also have NaOptions and yummy pizza they have a dog friendly patio so hopefully the weather will cooperate for that Luke I have a story for you this sometime later this week not really a story but I've becoming a bit of a because of the the dog and trying to integrate her into more a society we've been to a beer garden a couple of times the last couple of Saturdays I've never been to myself a beer gardening guy it's happening it's the kind of place you can take dogs it's very interesting yes and just I feel like Northwest culture yeah Northwest culture you know when I look at you all

1:01:24and belling ham portland plays like certainly Seattle it's so much of it hinges on beer gardens because it's places that people can come and have a beer and bring their children or pets children and or pets or their leashed children who write and it's a good it's actually a good place to kind of meet other people whatever so both we're trying to socialize the dog but let's face it we're really socializing me as well so yeah those are the in-person meetups coming up and I'll give another shout out to the September 13th this is a Sunday I believe this is oh probably I don't want to mistake this but that must be this Sunday right the third yeah the book club meeting up via zoom for a reading of the hardest longest race not a reading of but a discussion of the longest hard the hardest longest race by my buddy Eric Moscoitz who will be joining the conversation if you want any details about that you can email me Andrew a Tbtel.net and I'll put you in touch with the organizers and it's I don't want to promise this but it's possible that one or both of my parents may be on the call I heard yeah it sounds like a good

1:02:26reading I know my mom was gonna read the book I'll check in with them I don't want to I don't want to you know over promise and under deliver because I already do too much of that on this show but I'm it's possible that Walt and Susan may may have logged on to the chat for that on this Sunday the 13th I'm glad to hear your dad is reading and it seems like something he might enjoy I also got a note from a listener saying hey I just got this book from my dad seems like a good did we dad father's days over right that must have been a good time for that book father's day is in June right yes I guess I don't know if Eric's book was out in June or not so it's over but it's also looming it's always it's always moving it's always over but looming that's right how I described my love life all right that's a strong ending to the show and energy I wanted to get rid of here before I switch over to record live wire yes hey apologies again I totally forgot about this is the yuck amount of my content it needs this stuff needs to be sequestered buried deep buried to that's the thing too not just not just collected here but buried where nobody can see

1:03:28it or be affected by it yeah all right thanks for listening everybody we'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for all of you in the meantime have a absolutely great Tuesday and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all power out