491: The Missing Millionairess

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What are we talking about today?

Son Hulu.

It's called the Missing Million Narras.

Of course, it can't be million error, because she's a woman.

Right, of course.

But two episodes, so we're doing it in one.

Doe Behind's mother Melissa Caddick

went for an early morning rump, but she never came home.

Officers are searching footage in a bit to find

Missing Million Narras, Melissa Caddick.

Her teenage son and her husband have left behind.

I'd be the most high-profile Missing Person case

we've seen in a very long time.

This foot has turned up on a remote beach in a shoe.

It has been burned, the DNAed match.

I want you to drop me in.

Trace your name on my skin.

If it's free of what happened to Melissa Caddick,

it's intensifying.

You don't know my hidden.

Now, it opens like a horror movie for me.

What in the Lilith Fair is this theme's off?

The theme song is really good.

I found it.

Oh, you did?

It has hit in heart by Russell Falkus and Felicity Hunter.

Oh, I'm going to say Felicity Huffman.

I know.

But it opens with an underwater shot of the ocean,

which scares the living.

I cannot look at that stuff.

Too much.

But it's a shoe we'll get to the significance of that later.

But we're starting on November 13th, 2020,

in a place called Dover Heights in Sydney, Australia.

It's the day before Melissa's disappearance.

She's the million RS.

Yeah, Melissa Caddick, she is missing.

She's a super successful business woman.

The fact that she's missing is being treated

as suspicious we're told.

Yeah, we meet her husband, Anthony Coletti.

He's got highlights for days.

I don't know what he thinks he's doing here.

I know.

I think he's lost.

You know, the thing I do feel for this guy is actually,

we'll get into that.

But he's describing Melissa as the love of his life.

And it does seem like they have a pretty sweet love story.

We also get home videos of their dog, Snowy.

Very cute name.

Looks like they have another dog.

We never learn the other dog.

Oh, come on, Lou.

Well, she's writing him love letters on the bathroom mirror.

Yeah, it's just like a little, I love you.

Letter is a lot.

But again, did I see a cute little love note in the mirror, you know?

It's a love note on a mirror.

Yeah, that's the end of the person.

No, like just once in my life.

And then the person has to clean it.

Yeah, and that would be Steve.

I'm not doing that.

Like he's writing you the note.

And then you're just starting around.

I turn and walk away today.

He literally said, you know that when the trash gets full,

it doesn't take itself out.

I didn't know that.

I know.

I know.

I did not know that.

Wow, interesting.

We learn something new every day.

Every day.

Every day is a school day.

So November 13, 2020, Anthony wakes up at 6 a.m.

I went upstairs to the gym.

And Melissa's son was there.

I said to him, do you know where your mommy is?

He said something to the effect of she's

going for a run.

The sun tells Anthony that mom Melissa

has gone out for a run.

But her phone is in her closet.

And it's weird that she didn't take it with her.

Yeah, I do want to like stop on this for a second.

Because I was just thinking about this whole like,

we always scream like, oh my God.

Yeah, I don't always have my phone

when I take Fiona for her morning walk.

Yeah.

So like I don't always.

I try to just like for safety.

But most of the time I probably don't.

I feel like it's like for music or something

though, I'm going to run a run.

That's what I was going to say.

And then I was like, but I don't know

because I'm not a runner.

Like, wouldn't you want something in your ears

while you're running?

You psychopaths?

There's no way I could run without.

Like when I used to be a runner,

I had to have me something podcast something.

Yeah, because at first I was like,

I don't always have my phone.

And then I was like, if I'm running,

if I'm torturing myself,

I need to be listening to music at least.

Yeah. And especially like if you're like out,

and it's you're going to be out for a long time

that's early in the morning,

like I have your phone with you.

But also the full combo is missing.

The keys wallet phone combo is in is not missing.

It's in her apartment or in her like walk and closet.

That's enormous.

Yes. And we learn that Anthony

eventually calls the police.

We get a timeline on that in a little bit.

But the police come and we get the body cam footage

and Anthony's showing the cops

like what she would be wearing.

Like black gym clothes, ASIC sneakers.

Yeah. And he's like, that's really it.

That's all I know.

And so he starts looking like he's looking for her.

He's going on walks, he's going on drives.

Police spend seven days searching all of his favorite spots.

This place looks beautiful and fancy.

Huge.

And it's like, you know,

it's like winter here in the summer there.

I'm like, can we go?

Let's just go do it there.

But we learn that Dover Heights

is one of the richest suburbs in the entire country

in which to live.

It's hard to describe just how big this story was.

It was similar to the Madeleine McCann disappearance

because for a woman to go missing from that area is very rare.

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So it's seven days since Melissa was reported missing,

there's a press conference.

Now this press conference is wild.

And I will like, I will say the documentary does a good job

of setting it up to be like, what the fuck is going on?

Yeah.

Anthony says to Melissa like into the microphone,

if you're listening, everything is taken care of,

just come home, you're not in trouble.

I was like, what?

And Kate, the journalist is all of us like, what?

Yeah.

The hell because he says, you know, she's, you know,

of this dedicated and incredible mother.

I love her so much.

And when she's, when he's asked if she's watching.

Yeah.

What do you say to her?

And he just says, don't worry, you're not in trouble.

Like, you can come home.

Like, what?

No, it seems like he knows something

that the rest of Australia doesn't know.

That's not true.

I mean, when we get there, we'll understand

that everybody in Australia knows what he's talking about

in that moment, but we the viewer do not.

We have no idea.

Yeah.

Because then Kate, the journalist is like,

nothing could be further for the truth.

And I'm like, Kate, what do you mean?

What do you mean?

And so Melissa Catech is quote, in serious trouble

and the husband knew all about it.

Like, what is happening?

Yeah, he knew all about the fact that she was in trouble.

When we get there, I don't think he knew

about what she was in trouble.

If I asked him right now, he'd deny it.

So Kate breaks it down.

Okay.

A few days before Melissa goes missing,

Kate, the journalist gets this call

about the super prominent guy who's guilty of insider trading

and there was a raid.

And so Kate's like, this sounds crazy.

So I rang the Australian federal police

and they said, do you mean the search warrants

at Willangua Road Dover Heights?

And I said, oh, who's at Willangua Road?

They said, oh, some woman,

ba, ba, ba, ba, ba.

I'm Melissa Catech.

And the cops are like, no, no, no, no.

It wasn't some guy.

Yeah.

It was a Melissa Catech's house

and we just executed all these search warrants

and she's like a liar and a thief.

I feel like we are bumping up against all these documentaries

where the police are telling people way too much.

Way too much, but also like the whole like,

oh, he was really, the person was rushed

so it must have been a guy that was a million arrests.

It's true.

No, you're right.

And but Kate, the journalist is like,

we gotta start investigating this.

So now we meet Jody who's one of Melissa's childhood friends.

Yeah, and we have to like go outside

Melissa's childhood home for 10 minutes.

I know, I know.

We don't really get much from this section,

although I like Jody.

Yeah, she just explains that like Melissa used to be great.

You know, like she was fun and ambitious

and she says I would have trusted her with my life.

Yeah.

And everyone, like she's just saying like,

you have to understand about Melissa.

Like she made a name for herself.

She was so successful she did this on her own

and then Kate, the journalist is here

to take all the fun out of all of this.

Of course.

So, but we learn that Melissa is a financial advisor

and by 2020.

Well, that's as she called herself at least.

Exactly.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

This just like makes me so nervous for people

and like because nobody understands the stock market

except for like financial people

that you have to trust your money way.

I know someone who trusted like a friend of my parents

years ago who trusted someone and like took all their money.

I mean, how does that not happen every single?

We're about to see how freaking easy it is.

Right.

So she had over 60 clients in 2020,

which is when this takes place.

She was on the cover of independent financial advisor magazine,

like telling everyone what to look for in a financial advisor.

So let's go back to 2013 where Melissa starts this company.

Melissa Caddich sets up a financial services vehicle

called Malover, proprietary limited.

Her mission statement is,

I'm rich and that's why I now have the time and the inclination

to help you achieve perhaps not the same level as wealth is myself.

But I will help you get there.

I'm going to help you get rich.

Not as rich as me, of course.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like rich enough.

Rich enough.

A little bit rich.

We meet another Kate now, Kate Horn,

who's a former client of Melissa's.

And that's how she's introduced to us here.

Right.

And as we are hearing about this,

we get this video that Melissa took shop,

like doing like a private shopping spree in Dior.

I mean, the amount of absolutely stunningly beautiful jewelry

and clothing that this woman has bought for herself.

And so Kate, the investor,

yeah, says like she explains,

she goes, you know, she was a single mom

and Melissa was passionate about working with single moms.

And immediately I was like,

if this is going where I think it's,

I know.

I am going to be sure to.

I know.

And this woman, Kate had been a nurse for 20 years.

She said she didn't have much of a life or really any fun.

But she's very frugal.

And her one goal in life was to help her kids

when they get older, like buy a house.

Like that's what she's going to work

as a nurse every day for 20 years for.

This woman is literally telling us

about the sacrifices she's making.

And then she's like going to Melissa,

this other woman who makes her business,

supporting other women to help them

reach their financial goals.

And Kate is like, this is awesome.

Like I feel really seen and heard and supported.

And like this is not, like how many financial advisors

would do that?

No, and also it's a perfect setup for them.

Kate to be like, let me tell all of my other female friends

to go work with this woman, Melissa.

Like her mission statement is to help other women

and it's working.

And like everyone sees Melissa

as this really successful smart empathetic person.

And like she's living this life where once you see it,

you're like, well, I can have that.

I can't imagine the cars, luxury, everything,

design or everything.

Did you like the jewelry or was it too much?

I don't really care about that.

I'm sure it might be beautiful.

I'm sure, you know, the pieces were just,

there's just one necklace that I was like,

I mean, look like it was right out of like

Amnaris's wardrobe from Aida.

I was like, we're talking about Aida every episode.

I'm like, I'm going to stop.

Jess has always been my strongest suit.

I'm going to sing it every time, Aaron.

It's so good.

But like, yeah, there's like a lot of like luxury luxury stuff.

But on top of that, she's like, no, no, no, no,

this is for all of you.

Like I'm going to support you in getting this

and everyone feels so lucky to work with her.

And I'm like, great, then why do we have a search warrant?

I know.

Why does it feel like everybody's in trouble?

So the day before Melissa vanishes around 6 a.m.

I was fading the dogs and something was wrong.

Melissa said, Oh, Anthony, can you come upstairs?

I've come upstairs and there's a whole bunch of federal police.

We got red the search warrant.

There's the big police raid the day before she goes missing.

There's a raid on the home.

Like they are literally counting her money.

Yeah, they're going through her safes.

They're taking account of the luxury watches.

They're making her describe all of these things.

So like, where'd you get that?

Where'd you get that?

We see the body can footage.

She literally has like deor boxes that we have like Amazon packages.

Like she has boxes of like the fanciest

most expensive jewelry that she's never even opened.

Like things are not out of the boxes.

The amount of stuff is like sorry Miranda Priestly,

but it is just stuff.

Yeah, like it's I know it's luxury,

but like huge necklaces.

These like statement pieces and diamonds.

I'm like, are you going to state dinners?

Like, where are you wearing this to?

Right.

And it feels like, yeah, like no one can really like use all of that.

Like unless you're someone who's constantly in a position

where you have to look regal or want to hear something.

Even if like Nicole Kidman wore that necklace to the Oscars,

I feel like she'd like be have like 10 bodyguards on her.

Like it had to lose a guy in 10 days

where she wears the big yellow diamond.

And like it's like there's like security

and then she runs out Kate Hudson runs out at the Mabbie Mabbie Mabbie

and they're like, oh my God, the diamond.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like that where it's like it's like rented and like there's security

not just like in a safe and you're walking.

No, right.

And like I cannot express the number of unopened boxes

from like Gucci and Prada and like we see it all on the body cap.

The tape is still on it.

Like they've never been unsealed.

So like they're seizing these things.

So they're like taking documentation about all like how much it

caused all of this stuff.

They're taking it and Anthony the husband's like,

she didn't explain to me anything that was going on.

I had just assumed that they'd made a mistake

and that everything would go back to normal.

And that would be that.

That's what I thought.

I trusted my wife 100%.

She didn't tell me anything.

I didn't know what was going on.

I'm like, could you ask a question?

I know.

Could you ask?

Gary, much like a don't ask don't tell situations.

She's like, I assumed they made a mistake

and everything was fine.

Like I just trusted her.

And I'm like, well, Anthony.

Yeah.

Now's the time to ask a single solitary question.

Because you have 90 cops in your house taking all your shit.

And now, but the thing is like I got my face

because Anthony's like everybody agreed with me

and they did.

Everyone's like, this is it.

Someone goes, it was a dreadful misunderstanding.

Yeah.

And here comes Kate the journalist with yet another reality check.

Because it's like she's just saying that like

Kate starts investigating.

She's discovering that like this fraud

is like worth tens of millions of dollars

that they're investigating.

And you can see it.

Yeah.

Like it's hanging in her closet.

Like the bad version of Carrie Bradshaw

where she's like, I like my money or I can see it.

I'm hanging in my closet.

That's Melissa.

That's exactly right.

She stole it all.

But I'm like, Anthony, there's no way

that you didn't see the necklaces.

There's no way you didn't see, you know what I mean?

Like the bags and like it's all right there.

And I guess what she would say is of question.

Like she's on the cover of these financial

the bags are magazines.

Like she is successful.

I mean, we're going to learn later that like Anthony,

like Anthony is in of this world.

So I feel like we see this all the time

where like people are in these relationships

and one of them is doing something shady

but they're living this like a holly toy.

Like we just saw it in trophy wife on Patreon

where like no one's asking any questions

because everybody's like living off of the benefits.

That's what I was going to say.

It's just kind of really nice to be able to like

have the houses and the cars and the trips and yeah.

But like you and I that live in constant fear

from going to jail for tax fronters.

You can hold with like a necklace like that.

I'd be like, babe, where did you get that?

And why and why and why wear one?

And can I try?

Are we drag winds now?

Can I try this on?

Can I please wear this?

Let's be crazy to like be around something

that has that much about like down.

Yeah, just like draped in diamonds.

Like I feel like a piece that like has like eight layers to.

I was so taken by this necklace.

And like it feels like it should be in like a museum

or something.

Is she at least displaying them in the house

although I guess then everybody would like be in danger?

Well, yeah, I guess she has to like hide some of that.

Yeah, right.

And that's the other thing.

The thing about doing shit like this,

you can't really enjoy the money, you know?

And at this point, it's like how many of those necklaces

are you real?

Are you buying it for the sake of buying it?

Cause that's what it feels like.

Or for me, it feels a little bit like put your money

in like in things that like you can like put in a suitcase

if you need to.

Right.

Or it's like a way of laundering it.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

Like that you can't like throw like a thousands of hundreds

of dollars of bills in like a suitcase

and like on an airplane.

Right.

And then everybody by the way is now driving around

in his fancy car looking for her blaring his music

cause she'll know his car and she'll know his music.

And I'm like, as if she's lost.

Right.

I know.

I don't know.

No, right.

Good question.

But it's sort of like, you know,

he's like hoping he's like making a spectacle

and blasting music and like screaming.

And I'm like, so where we're going straight

to like lost an amnesia.

Right, right, right.

It just feels like an, it's like an, I look, I don't know

shit about shit.

I guess you would do goddamn anything

you could to get attention like in a good, you know,

like try to get this person to notice you

or find this person.

I don't know.

Well, and if you're confused, dear listener,

the timeline is the rate on the house happens.

The rest of the day happens.

They all like Anthony and Melissa go to bed.

He wakes up in the morning and remembers

she went out for that run and she's gone.

Right.

So like yesterday was the, was the raid today she's gone.

And Anthony does not know where she is.

And is not connecting the two things.

Exactly.

Right.

Exactly.

Like to this day, maybe.

And Anthony tells us a lot of information in 30 seconds.

He's a hairdresser.

I couldn't work because of COVID.

I had to support a young child and I had no money.

Most of my money went to her bank accounts for bills.

Melissa's bank accounts were frozen to stop her from

they said moving her money offshore or something like that.

And he's now raising her kid with no access to any money or work.

He goes, Melissa's accounts have been frozen,

quote, to prevent her from moving money offshore

or something like that.

Anthony.

I know.

I know.

You got to.

I know.

Well, you should be in a panic, no?

About like all of these things.

The raid.

Like, what is my life?

Have I been living?

I like nothing.

You know how I used to always suggest that like if you ever hit

the lottery or whatever, go bury a million dollars in the yard.

You don't tell anybody.

And but like maybe that's what Anthony did.

Like we never get into that side of it.

But he doesn't seem to be worried about money for somebody who

doesn't have any money.

He just keeps saying he doesn't understand what's happened.

And the more he says it, the less I believe.

I know.

He says it too much.

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So let's talk to Bruce Gleason.

He's a money guy.

Yes.

His lower third is a receiver and liquidator.

I don't know.

It's money.

Who knows what that means?

He's in acquisitions like murders and executions in TCO.

He's like melting down gold.

What I imagine is true.

He's the guy.

He's a money guy.

Yeah.

So this guy is like explaining how Melissa did this fraud.

And he's the one who's like, she presented herself as a financial planner.

Yeah.

So she would give investment advice to people who were investing through their retirement

fund or pension fund.

Like these are people who really want to do, they have big money goals.

And they're working class people.

These are people who are sacrificing to take this money and give it to Melissa.

So she can make more money for that.

And like your retirement fund, your pension, you work for every cent you make.

But like the pension, you know, like earned that year decades.

Yes.

But like it's like any account, like if that money disappears, it's gone.

Right.

So in 2020, there's a complaint.

Someone makes a complaint that Melissa may or may not be on the up and up.

And there's like this theory that maybe she doesn't have the license to be doing this.

Yeah.

So they report her to this agency.

Obviously, this is a big deal.

Yeah.

And so Vanessa Duckworth is here to like look into this and find out what the hell Melissa's

up to.

Because it's a big accusation.

And like what we learn is very simple.

So I following the money through, there was a number of transactions going out of the

company's bank accounts once the investor money has had been deposited in this circumstance.

The withdrawal of the funds from investors was going to Melissa's personal account.

And you'll see there the credit of 1.5 million coming in.

Melissa is taking the money from like her friends and family.

She doesn't have a license, by the way.

She doesn't have a license.

She's putting them in her company account, letting it sit there for like a day and then transferring

all that money to her personal bank account from 2013 to 2020.

And I'm like, look, she must have known this day was coming.

She had to.

I think that's exactly why we're here.

Exactly.

Like if that's the scheme, I'm going to take the money, put it in my business account

for one day, then move it to my personal account.

Like she knew she was on a clock.

So she had 60 to 70 investors, giving all this money to the company, like $2.5 million

in a single day sometimes.

Yes.

So she would like send them these doctored Photoshop statements.

The statements don't exist.

Like they're not real.

The account doesn't exist.

The app doesn't exist.

Like nothing is real.

Literally export a document with account numbers, remove one number, and then send the

statements to her clients.

We look at how much money you're making.

Yeah.

And like if you're sitting there wondering like where the hell is the money going, it's

on our neck.

It's in her closet.

And we're talking, they're saying $20 to $40 million is missing.

And like once again, she's counting on two things that make me crazy.

That these people are desperate to like make money off of their money.

And the other thing is that they're like they're going to look at a statement and have

no idea how to read it.

Right.

You know, they're going to look at it and be like, oh my God, last month I had $2,000.

You know, I have $3,000.

Like it's working.

It's happening.

Meanwhile, she's saying like don't worry single woman or a person who's worked so hard.

Like I have your back.

That's the other thing too.

She's like co-opting and like weaponizing this emotion woman is truly evil.

Also $20 to $40 million, not a single donation, by the way, like not a single penny went

to help people or animals or the earth or anything, like not that we're told anyway.

And I really don't think so.

I mean, she did a lot to support the Gucci family.

I'm told you know, name me or needs it.

God.

Like are you serious?

That's the other thing where it's like if you're going to steal all this money, not

as you're not even thinking even for the optics.

Yeah.

Nothing.

Like that's how the board of something.

Right.

And that's how we know that she always knew this that she knew she was going to get caught

someday.

So Kate, the journalist, writes a story that appears on Saturday, December 4th.

So it's like a couple weeks after Melissa goes missing.

She's the corn artist of the century.

I think we have four million unique readers and the story absolutely blew up.

Kate is telling us they've got millions and millions of readers.

They all over like the continent of Australia is obsessed with this story.

And who wouldn't be?

Right.

Because she committed this fraud up to $40 million and now she's missing like everything

about this is appealing.

Now Kate, the investor, not Kate, the journalist, she explains that this was a really big betrayal

for everyone, but especially her because Kate was childhood friends with this person.

They were best friends from when they were kids.

And this is a big reveal that like Melissa was doing this to people she didn't know, but

she was also doing it to her best friends and her family and their family.

Yeah.

They weren't each other's weddings.

They were at the hospital when their kids were born.

I mean, like long life long besties.

This is like, Skamanda level maniac.

Really, really bad.

But at least Skamanda, I mean, it was all bad, but like, this is like, they grew up together.

You know, Skamanda was like picking people off.

Yeah.

Right, truly.

And it's also like, Melissa would know what this means to her best friend.

Right.

You know what I mean?

Thomas of like what like to lie to your best friend like that and then being like, until

all of your friends about me, her, she was doing this to her own parents, to her brother.

Like she had a major network of people.

I can't believe she got away with it as long as she did.

I can't believe it either.

You know, people trusted her and she's like off skiing an Aspen and a $10,000 ski suit

or whatever with a $350,000 necklace around her neck.

And everyone she's ever met is in financial ruin and she put them there and off she is

skiing.

Literally says we were all completely ruined.

Right.

Just the double whammy, like the one, two fucking punch like that this happened and then

who did it to you?

I can't even.

You can never get over it.

So now we meet a guy named Hilton.

He's a successful financial advisor from South Africa and we're going back to the beginning

of Melissa's career, like how this all started.

Yeah, like the early 2000s.

So he came to Australia.

He's looking for some of this sort of, he's like, was really successful in South Africa

and he's looking for some of this sort of show him how it's done in Australia and that's

how he meets Melissa.

Yeah.

And he tells the story about like, she's sort of like they're in a meeting one day, she's

like showing him the ropes and one day they're going to meet with clients and she looks at

him and says, let's go make some money.

Well, it's like what?

And he's kind of horrified.

He's like, that's not how we talk in this line of work.

The idea is that we do make money but we make money for our clients after we get the satisfaction

from.

She's like the cartoon who like sees the client as big like steak dinner.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Because they're going to meet a client to do work and like help this person reach their

goals and she's like, oh, like Chichang, let's go and he's like, what?

And you just like, you just don't talk that way according to Hilton.

But Hilton is the guy who discovers the fraud because what is going on is that because Melissa

is getting a fee for her services, she's therefore legally not entitled to a commission.

And so he looks at an account one day.

And the percentage growth just wasn't happening in the investment that he has the application

and when I picked it up, there it was, I noticed something really shocking.

You can see over here where she was supposed to get no commission, she had changed it so

that she had earned full commission as well.

It's simple fraud.

She's literally taking in commission what the investment is making so this client is making

no money.

And when he's like, it's simple fraud.

So Hilton calls her immediately because this is not the guy to pull that shit with like

not at all.

So she denies it, blames her secretary.

Yes.

And then he just never hears from her or sees her ever again and he doesn't do anything.

He doesn't tell the client.

He just moves on.

He's like, in those days, we just moved on.

I was like, Hilton, you got a little bit of blood on your hands, girl, because now

you're in a documentary talking about this shit that she did after this.

Like what happened to that poor person?

That person invested over $100,000.

And like, I'm sorry, but like when you identify the fraud that somebody is doing, the reason

you stop them is so we're not going to appear.

Right.

Because that was 20 years ago.

Yeah.

Now we're $23 million in $23 million and best friends and family and all this stuff in

complete ruin.

They said ruin.

Yeah.

So now we meet.

Okay.

This is I resent the shit out of this.

Let me tell you why.

Please.

So we they meet these people who live in the comment section online.

They're lower thirds are social media commentators.

That's wrong.

They're not experts.

They're not sociologists.

Yeah.

They're not professors.

They are not commentators.

They are internet commenters.

They are literally in feast.

There are Facebook groups about this page and these people live in there.

There is absolutely no reason for them to be here.

They are misrepresented.

They're not like commenting on the world of social media and virality and all the shit.

They are fucking trolls who live in the comment section.

Yeah.

It's true.

Like why are they here?

Why are you wasting our time?

There's a guy named Michael Michael.

My name is Michael Michael and that's my Facebook name.

I'd basically provide an ironing service for wealthy socialites in between ironing.

I've got the internet on.

And in between ironing I have the internet on.

Why are you here?

That's a direct quote.

I have the internet on.

I'm going to tell you like being a gay with an ironing business for socialize.

That sounds great.

Like they're just here to speculate wildly like they don't know anything.

They just like they're it's so weird.

Can I ask you a question?

Sure.

Do you like ironing?

Don't do I've like what what is there to iron?

I mean I like iron shirts and I like Steve will iron like the linen napkins in our house.

What about steaming them?

Oh well we do the steamer function on the iron.

There's something so satisfying about like ironing the wrinkles out of something.

I am sure it is.

I wear a steamer house.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

I think I I must have in my life ironed something.

I don't really have any reason.

That I love and iron.

We've got a nice like heavy iron you know like I'm one of those people that makes me think

of like the the hairspray of it all like if I was like the mom and hairspray in like Baltimore

in the 1960s or whatever.

I would totally have that business where I'm in a I'm in like a house coat all day and

I'm taking it.

I'm starting.

I'm starting.

I'm starting.

Sounds great.

That makes it crisp right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Real good.

What isn't that not comfortable?

I don't know.

It looks like kind of warm and thick.

Yeah.

Can you not iron that?

I don't know.

But I don't iron a lot.

But when I do iron it's rewarding and the other one is amazing.

I love hearing that.

I came out.

I was in the office working.

It was early.

It was like five in the morning.

Stephen got it up.

Got it.

We'd have people over for dinner.

We used our class out.

Like Steve sets his alarm to wake up early in iron.

I get it.

And he's like he's ironing.

But then pressing the.

I like that sound.

I like the sound.

And then you see the creases go.

They melt away girl.

I really like something.

The instant gratification.

You can see it working in real time.

Yeah.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

And then I'm thinking,

anytime I do something like that, I'm like,

should I do a bit?

Should I make a business doing this?

No.

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Anyway, the people from the Facebook group are here.

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So Anthony, the husband tells us the Anthony and Melissa story.

I just love this.

Well, I love it because it's wild.

She's a lion, a cheater, and every fast enough for life.

True.

They met in 2005.

He worked at a hair salon.

He did her hair one day.

She's married with a son at the time.

She's married and pregnant.

Oh, is that what it was?

Yes.

Well, but nothing happens.

She moves to London with the husband, has the kid, and then they reconnect in 2011.

She invited me for lunch and we discovered that we had the same birthday and that we went to the same school.

She certainly wasn't happy in her marriage.

As we were saying goodbye, we just had a kiss.

Sparks.

The chemistry sort of ignited.

And then as they're leaving lunch, they kiss and I'm like, what's going on?

No, they went into this lunch and knowing they were going to kiss.

I think they were 100%.

100%.

And so, but the husband stays in the UK and she moves to Australia with the kid.

And Anthony's like, well, I took on the father figure role and I'm like, wait a second.

I kind of hate this because we don't know enough.

I don't know the details, but I do know that Melissa is a manipulator and a liar.

And it kind of sounds like maybe Anthony's crossing a line with her son.

What's going on here?

And we never meet the son.

He says 100 times Melissa's son, Melissa's son.

So it's not like my stepson even.

And you know what?

I'm as bad as these fucking internet commenters.

So I'm going on vibes just like they are.

I don't know anything about these people.

I am speculating wildly.

I just because from this moment on, everybody refers to Anthony as the toy boy.

It's boy toy.

But it's also fuck boy.

Like Anthony's just a fuck boy.

Right, but it's boy toy.

And it's a boy toy.

It's like that term.

I'm like, I know everything is like reverse and upside down.

And I'm like, really?

Yeah.

God damn it.

I know.

The term is the term.

Yeah, I agree with you.

Anyway.

They all call them like the toy boy.

Well, I'm not saying whatever.

He seems fine.

They move.

They move it together.

They're married by 2013.

Everything is perfect and amazing and incredible.

And Anthony wants us to know he was not in it for the money.

We're back to the press conference.

The one where Anthony's like, you're not in trouble.

Yeah.

So this is where it hits me.

This guy is a hairdresser.

Yeah.

His hair is awful.

His hair is pretty bad.

He's got the like weird backstreet boy streaks from like the thousandth.

Where it's like really, really short in the side, but up in the front and sort of that fo-hawk thing.

Yeah.

And he's got these bleached tips.

I'm like, you're a hairdresser.

It's not an emergency thing to me.

We're back surgeons.

Shouldn't perform surgery on themselves.

You know what I mean?

I was like, hairdresser, you say?

The hairdresser day.

And it's also like I was like, oh, he probably owns the salon.

He's got a lineup.

No, he just, he goes to work every day.

Okay.

It was a choice.

I know.

In like 2020 with the frosted tips.

It's a choice.

This is why this guy didn't ask any questions when he saw the bling.

Because he was like, living the life.

He's got this mansion.

I guess.

You know what I mean?

You ask a question once you get rated.

No.

You have a lot of time.

Melissa was like, it's bedtime, honey.

And then she was gone.

Okay.

So speaking of that press conference, after the husband speaks,

Melissa's brother Adam reads a statement.

And remember, at this point, brother Adam does not know

that his sister has spent the last seven years stealing money from him

and every single person they know.

That's right.

So the difference, like Kate, the journalist is saying

that the difference between these two men is clear.

Her brother Adam grimly then said a few words.

I'd like to read a statement.

He could barely keep himself together.

You can see him struggling to actually get the words out.

But Anthony Coletti, he showed no affect he was very calm.

Adam is, looks like someone who's lost a loved one.

Yes.

He's like shaky and sad.

And Anthony is not.

Anthony is like, I'm your in trouble, babe.

Just could you come home with the cash?

And like, the urine trouble comment alone is bizarre.

Even without knowing she's a lion of thief.

But now that we know she's a lion of thief

and there's a raid the day before.

But it's like the only thing about it

is that the entire world knew what he meant.

It wasn't like he was setting her a coded message.

It just seemed that way to us at the beginning of this documentary.

And then one of the cops goes on 60 minutes

and she's like, they're like, is Anthony helpful?

And they were like, um, super high pitch.

She's like, he is.

I mean, like, he's not calling us all the time

asking for updates or really caring about anything.

Uh-huh.

But we ask him a question.

Yeah.

He's responsive.

And then she kind of shrugs that she's like, um, yeah.

Yeah.

Real convincing.

I know.

But because I think we got to go through that thing

where everybody has to assume that Anthony killed her for some reason.

Or did he help her escape?

Right.

That's the other thing.

He's not smart enough to do that.

He's not.

So Kate, the friend, like the ultimate betrayal,

says, look, Melissa called the shots in that relationship.

Oh, I'm shocked.

Was the boss.

And Anthony followed and did whatever she wanted.

So that's why people are like, oh, is he just like,

saying the script that she wrote out for him?

Well, and that becomes especially pointed when we learn.

Soon after she goes missing, we discovered

that Anthony Coletti had not reported his wife missing

until 30 hours after she disappeared.

30 hours.

30 hours.

30 hours.

I mean, who does that?

He did not report her missing for 30 hours.

Plenty of time to get away.

Yeah.

But it's also like, look, if he's just kind of a dummy

then I can understand his thinking.

I'll tell you exactly why I don't buy it.

You can buy it if I'm not buying it.

Yeah.

Okay.

Save him my money.

I'm not buying it.

Okay.

Yeah.

You would not invest with Melissa.

I believe Melissa, here's all my money.

But maybe I would, you know, like maybe I would have been like,

oh, shit.

I know.

Yeah.

Maybe I would have, yeah.

Why did I say, yeah, like that?

Yeah.

Um, I maybe, you know,

thumbs, thumbs, thumbs, thumbs.

But that's the point.

A way for those of us who don't understand finances to know that

we're not getting ripped off by the people we're trusting

our money to.

No.

That's the, like, that's why people don't invest because we don't,

people don't, we're told over and over again, you got to invest.

You got to invest in the stock.

You got to do it.

But then you hear stories like this and you're like, why, why,

why would I trust anybody?

And that's what makes her more of an asshole because she was,

she was stealing from her loved ones and her friends

and convincing these women who really needed help financially.

Yeah.

But she was there to help them.

Yeah.

And now she has $300,000 necklaces.

I know.

Gorgeous as they are.

But we're learning now, like the Facebook group guy is like

stalking their house, but he's showing us how if she did

escape, like if she ran off to start a new life or whatever,

and he helped her, it would have been possible because, like,

remember, this was COVID.

Everyone was wearing masks.

There was, it was easy enough to scooch around the CCTV camera.

Like she could have gotten away undetected.

Right.

I didn't write any of that down.

I hate those comments.

But it's also like, she also just went for a jog.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

So like, if that was the plan like that, she never.

That's what we're told.

She put on the jogging costume and she went.

That is what we're told.

So we're told.

Without her phone or keys or wallet or anything.

Yeah.

In 2021, the financial regulation people are collecting Melissa's assets for the upcoming trial,

even though she's still missing, which makes this very complicated.

Yeah.

So they do all their research and they're like collecting all the assets,

all the evidences laid out, like every, like the stuff that she got.

But it's also like the real estate.

So it's not just her house that her husband and her kid live in, her fucking parent's house.

And she was investing her money in these international portfolios,

like trusting these financial advisors overseas or whatever.

But also it just means that if they're seizing all these assets,

her husband and kid and her parents are all going to lose their homes.

And so as this is all happening and everyone thinks Melissa has escaped

and he's helped her or he's killed her, one or the other,

we get a major announcement.

February 26th, 2021.

This is how episode 1 ends.

So we're going to tell you this and then dive into episode 2.

I can now inform you that last Sunday, a shoe was located on the shoreline

of the Ordana National Park south of Tartara.

A DNA from the foot was last night matched a DNA sample from Melissa Caddick's toothbrush.

A shoe with the remains of a human foot inside washes up on shore

and every no one knows what to make of it.

Yeah.

And episode 1.

In episode 2, Anthony the Husband is doing tons of interviews,

totally rejecting reality, not apologizing or acknowledging

how his lifestyle was financed in any way.

Yeah.

He's not mortified by this.

He doesn't feel bad that Melissa did this.

He's not.

I shock and trauma.

I understand that.

I'm going to talk a minute about trauma and how I'm sorry to resent that fucking word.

Okay.

But like his lifestyle, he's not like, oh my god, I can't believe this.

And if you're so traumatized and you don't know how to handle the conversation,

don't go on every new station, Anthony.

I know.

No bad look.

I definitely agree with that.

I think a lot of this is coming at him very fast.

I understand that.

I do.

And I'm not like Mingi's here.

I agree with you.

He knows all of her friends.

He knows all of these people.

You know what I mean?

And every single one of them, they're like, we don't necessarily blame him,

but a little bit of compassion for what we're fucking going through.

Because he's also like that didn't happen.

She didn't do that.

So he's not even saying she did it.

He's just like, no, no, no, no, no.

This is a grave misunderstanding.

No, it's not.

How could it possibly be?

It's not.

It's willful ignorance.

And that is frustrating.

I totally agree.

Okay.

So the foot.

Okay.

Oh.

Can you imagine like you're just going to the beach in Australia for like a beautiful day

of like body surfing and like secret shots.

And you walk up on a, you're like, oh, look at that cute shoe with a fucking human.

What is that?

That's exactly what happened.

That's what happened.

Yeah.

When that foot landed,

according to most people, there were three plausible scenarios at that time.

One, she was murdered.

Two, suicide.

And three, she is skyped and is leaving overseas.

Or she's on the run.

And this is a red herring.

And she cut off her own foot.

Like, that's crazy.

Not since that guy shot his hand off in the alligator or whatever in his top of his thumb.

I know.

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It is crazy.

Anthony the husband has a long list of suspects, but he doesn't say who they are.

Anthony.

Yeah.

Like, what am I supposed to do with this?

I know.

I mean, he's like one of her investors, one of her friends or whatever.

Like, they would have just cause.

I don't think a jury would convex.

Right.

You know, let's talk to Dr. Paula, please.

Yes.

Because she's a forensic scientist with an expertise in aquatic forensics.

And I almost jumped out of my chair like, thank you.

Yeah.

I don't understand why this is so rare to have an expert in her field talk about it.

And not Facebook commenters.

Yeah.

Because Dr. Paula's whole thing is that the shoe, this shoe that washed up on the beach with her fucking foot in it,

would have been in the water for three months.

And Dr. Paula's like, I don't think so.

I'm so sorry.

But like, from a test that I have done, so what she does, she takes Neoprene,

which is what the sneakers were made out of, and puts it in the ocean,

and like sees if like the same amount of like barnacles and like ocean debris

are connecting themselves to the sneaker as it was for this piece of neoprene

that would have been in the water the same amount of time.

These are the picture of the shoe of Melissa Caddick.

So this is a shoe that allegedly spent three months in the ocean.

Very clean.

Should be way third year.

It doesn't matter.

She does actual experiments.

Yeah.

I can't believe like how excited I was.

I know.

So rare.

Well, you've got the great barrier refit your disposal.

She says we have to rely on more than just the tide.

I'm like, Dr. Paula, I love you.

I know.

I love you.

Never leave.

But it does raise more questions than answers.

It's like, okay.

Well, like, did she do this last, did she blow her own foot off last week?

Yeah.

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So it's September 12th, 2022.

It's two years later now.

Yeah.

And now we're doing the inquest, which is like what they do over there for hearings.

Yeah, and this whole thing is done by the corner.

Like the whole idea of this is that like the corners doing the inquest to determine what happened.

And remember, we still have a body.

Yeah, we should totally do that here.

But I'm like, without a body, why is the corner involved?

I don't know.

I have no idea.

So day one of the inquest, we get the police body cam going to interview Anthony,

the day that Melissa went missing.

And we learned that he gave three versions of when he last saw Melissa.

One was at midnight, one was at 5 a.m.

And also he's adamant that his wife normally got up at the cracker dawn and went for a run.

But with now learned through CCTV footage from the house for weeks beforehand,

she'd never got up early in the morning to go for a run.

Every single day at the cracker dawn, there she is running, running, running.

That is just not true.

It's not true.

The one thing I will say about toy boy, Anthony, who's like not the brightest bulb,

when you're dealing with your wife being missing and the prospect of having to raise this kid

that's not your own for the rest of your life with no money.

And by the way, all of the assets have been frozen.

I get not having a perfectly articulated timeline.

Or was she lying to him and leaving the house at 5.30?

But the cameras say they looked at two weeks worth of footage.

The cameras on their own fucking house, Anthony.

Why are you lying about this?

It's your ring camera.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What is happening or your CCTV?

She never left the house at dawn.

Right.

So why lie about this?

Especially when you got the little kid involved, you said he told you that?

So I'm like, Anthony, is there a world where she was getting out of bed at 5.30?

And he thinks she's going for a run, but she's not?

Uh-huh.

But she's nowhere.

What are we, why are you saying this?

And being adamant about it?

No, like fucking clockwork death and taxes there she was every morning.

And no, she wasn't.

I just get the sense that Anthony is one of those people who just does what he's told.

And suddenly he's in charge and does not know what to do.

I know.

The cops are literally like sweetheart honesty is the best policy.

Yes.

They're telling him that like it's clear that things were off right away.

Well, and also like we're going to be told that he's like crying on the body cam.

But then the cops are like, but he wasn't really good.

Those were fake tears.

They're testifying at the inquest that no one was falling for the tears.

Anthony.

What is going on here?

I know.

I don't think Anthony knows more than he's saying.

I just think he's like is not used to not being told what to do.

Well, look, we have a real fucking motley crew here because Anthony speaks at the inquest

and we're going to meet his lawyers Judy and Sarah, the mother daughter legal team.

And they open their sit down interview by telling each other how hot they look.

Which fine.

I will never not support that.

Yeah.

But these two are like real pieces of work.

Sarah met him when she was 12 because he was cutting her hair.

They liked him so much and they also want us to believe.

I don't know what a toy boy is because I've never had that.

So someone's willing to show me what a toy boy is.

I might be able to make a comment on it.

What is a toy boy?

I have no idea.

Do you know what a toy boy is?

Well, I've never had one either.

They don't know what a quote toy boy is.

And I'm like number one probably because it's boy toy.

And two, yes, you do.

I don't know.

I'm really tired of hearing toy boy.

I don't like it at all.

And don't act like you don't know what it is.

But also boy toy just sounds so much better.

It's just what it is.

Yes.

It's so weird.

Toy boy doesn't work.

And they're like, what?

I've never heard of that.

Don't paint your eyes back.

Don't.

And also, is he paying them in haircuts?

I think he's paying them in haircuts.

I'm sure.

I get them.

He's paying them in haircuts.

I'm also really relieved to know that their mother-daughter

I missed that because I'm like, why did she know him when she was 12?

That's weird.

Mother-daughter legal team.

But I get it.

I think he's paying them in haircuts.

Oh.

Because all the assets are frozen.

He's got no money.

Yeah, I guess that's true.

I mean, I guess they've known.

I feel like this has got to be part of the drawback of being a lawyer.

Is that you know and love people who get into trouble but can't afford you.

But you have to defend them because they're your people.

You know what I mean?

Yes.

I think there are plenty of lawyers who'd be like, no, that's not how it works.

Right.

You need literally.

But they say to him, step one, shut your mouth.

Yes.

You look and sound ridiculous on this, ladies, we agree.

And step two, they sit him down and they're like, you need to acknowledge what she did here.

They show him all of the evidence on paper.

And they're like, we're not getting up until you get it through your head that she was a terrible person.

And she was stealing tens of millions of dollars from her loved ones.

And it's also like Anthony, she's never coming back.

Like, even if she's not dead, she's either a just never coming back or be if she does come back.

She's going to jail for the rest of her life.

Why are you protecting her?

And she left you holding the bag.

I mean, unless he was in on it.

Unless he was, but I don't think she would trust him with that to be honest.

I think she seems too stupid.

I think she left him high and dry.

Yeah.

Which is another shitty thing to do.

Yeah, I mean, she killed herself.

You know what I mean?

It's just like, in my opinion, like she went and killed herself and jumped into the ocean

and the ocean took her body.

And it was always the plan.

Yeah.

That was always the plan, I think.

Yeah.

Like the first time she stole money from her poor friend Kate, it was like,

Kate, you should go work overtime this week and not see your kids and then give me that money

and then she went and bought a necklace with it.

That's when the clock started and she had to know it.

Back with, what's his name?

Yeah.

Hilton.

Yeah.

Who caught her?

You know, like, my God, were the dinners worth it?

Sometimes she was getting caught before she just goes to the person and never saw it.

I'm sure tons.

I mean, she would be on a ski lift in Aspen having the time of her life.

Having to know, someday I'm going to have to jump off that beautiful cliff.

And you know what?

Kate was sleeping soundly knowing my best friend has my back.

Oh.

And she didn't.

Oh, I know.

So as the Kate, you're like, how do you recover from that?

I know.

Oh, oh, I know.

So now he's in the witness box at the inquest.

Yeah.

But he is struggling so much that he is not.

And look, I've been there where your brain is just like not computing.

But it's getting to the point where it's like Anthony, he got a ton of down like a little bit.

Yeah, like he's literally saying he really did seem to struggle to follow what was being saved to him.

But at one stage, he just said, my mind doesn't work like you.

I can't grasp what you're saying.

He cannot understand the words that are being spoken to him from opposing counsel.

Like he cannot answer any questions.

His lawyers say the language of the questions were beyond his vocabulary.

Would you like an example of what he couldn't understand?

Yes.

The words from an objective perspective.

Yeah.

That pushed him over the fucking edge.

Yeah.

That is what caused the breakdown.

I know.

I know.

The four words from an objective perspective, he could not handle it.

They even made a rhyme for him.

The court is like, we can't do this.

They want him to see a medical professional.

He says to his lawyers, I can't handle this.

Just take me to McDonald's.

Which look?

I get a look.

You know what I mean?

Krispy is called the McDonald's out of this.

I get it.

Yeah.

Yes.

Which is great.

Like you just need to like self-sooth for the big Mac and a Krispy Coke.

100.

Yeah.

However, we are looking at phone video of him driving home.

Right.

So you're in such a breakdown.

The guy running the person running inquest is like, you need medical attention now.

We're only stopping this so you can get the treatment you need.

He demands going to McDonald's.

I know.

They don't take him there.

He in the middle of a breakdown gets behind the wheel and is filming himself driving home.

I know.

And they let him off the hull.

Like they don't force him to answer them.

Just can you rephrase the question if he doesn't know the words?

But I think he was making himself a question again.

From an objective perspective.

So I would say.

And I don't know the rest of it.

So I'd be like, here's how you say it.

Like, hey, idiot.

Zoom out.

If you weren't you.

Right.

What would you think?

But everything they said, he was like, man, I don't figure out how to ask it another way.

I simply do not know any other words for that.

He'd be like, what?

I don't know no matter what.

Yeah.

Like, this feels to me like in any other case, we'd be like, this is a delay tactic.

And also he's going to wonder why all of Australia hates him and thinks he's involved.

Like, this is why.

And then he's like having this breakdown where the court is like, you need to see a medical professional.

His own lawyers are like, no one would take him.

Right.

He demands to go to McDonald's.

Again, heard.

Crispy Coke.

Yeah, yeah.

But then he films himself driving.

If you have a breakdown, you should not be behind the wheel of a car.

That is incredibly dangerous to you and everyone on the road.

And yet, also, where is that kid's dad?

That's my other question.

I don't know.

The dad that's lived in London, like, you're just letting the kid live.

His mother is missing.

You're just letting him live through this.

I don't know.

So the cops, however, are also under fire.

Yeah.

Because the inquest found that they barely investigated.

CCTV footage.

If it was obtained, it wasn't looked at until much later.

They had a search of the house that lasted for 14 minutes.

Supposedly, the cars weren't examined.

The house wasn't examined properly.

Which means key evidence might not have been noticed.

They spent 14 minutes at the house.

The CCTV footage wasn't collected.

They didn't canvas the neighborhood.

They didn't look at the cars.

And I'm like, Australia, bad policing is kind of our thing.

What are you trying to put here?

Exactly.

That's us.

It's also why.

Look, what would the explanation be for why they didn't investigate further?

Also, their theory about the shoe foot situation.

Yeah.

Is that Melissa jumped a shark attacked her and the shoe foot.

And then the shark threw it back up.

What?

And I'm like, kindly leave the sharks out of this.

But it's also not like a terrible idea of what happened.

Because it would explain why the shoe wasn't in the water as long as Dr. Paula says it should be.

But wouldn't it have been?

I mean, I think they found her body in it.

I'm sorry to be like morbid about it.

Yeah.

But like, so it just lived in this shark stomach for three months, then the acid would have destroyed it.

Did you see the tick talk about what would happen if you got swallowed by a whale?

And they actually have like animation of like what would happen to you in there?

It would be bad.

It would not be good.

I get it.

It would not.

It would really be bad.

Because you'd like to still be alive for a little while.

Yeah.

This theory doesn't make sense.

Because even if it was in his stomach for his or her stomach.

Yeah.

Their stomach.

Their stomach.

For three months.

Like, it would be destroyed.

And he would digest it.

They're fucking sharks.

I guess.

This is a stupid thing.

I also don't think sharks swallow people whole.

But what do I know?

Also, I think it's hilarious and probably kind of cute for a shark to be like.

Like, and just like spit out.

Oh, excuse me.

Like, oh.

Oh, sorry.

Excuse me.

They're like.

Yeah.

What's the shark in finding Nemo?

It's Australia.

Bruce.

Oh.

Fish off friends.

Not food.

Oh, my God.

Poor group.

So maybe it was Bruce.

And I don't know.

I think we should leave the sharks out of it.

So now the producer is like directly questioning Anthony about all of the shit that Australia

has questions about.

We also get on the eighth day of the inquest.

Is Anthony well enough to continue?

I don't know.

Go to McDonald's and check.

He drove himself there.

Oh, literally.

But like, I love this because finally, like, how many times will we beg to the person behind

the camera to be like, they're in front of you.

Ask.

Yeah, they do.

Yes, they do.

So they're asking about the giving the inconsistent accounts of when he last saw her.

And he's saying it's trauma.

Fuck.

Okay.

Deep, deep, deep sigh.

Yeah.

I feel like we're overusing words these days and I'm starting to resent it.

Well, because the right word here would be shock because it's like in the moment, you're

shot.

You don't know what's happened.

Shock would be the right word.

Because it also feels like this has become.

Please hear this way.

I'm saying it.

Okay.

A little bit of a get out of jail free card.

Yeah.

Anthony drops trauma.

Now, no one can say anything about it or else you're a fucking monster.

Yes.

Okay.

So what he's saying is, and I'm sure there is trauma there.

And he's still things are not making sense.

Right.

Trauma aside.

Well, because I also think I would be on you.

If you're like, how am I supposed to have a consistent timeline when my house got raided

yesterday?

Right.

My wife is missing today.

I got to raise this kid.

I have no money.

I would be like, I wouldn't expect you to have a consistent timeline either.

The word is shock.

Because he won't even readily admit that it looks suspicious.

Can you say, has a specialist that makes you know?

Yeah.

Maybe to an untrained eye.

Yes.

Yes.

To a trained eye.

No.

Everything is a very high pitched, um, well, to the untrained eye, but to the, and I'm like,

Anthony, just say this looks bad.

Yeah.

I got to tell, I don't even remember talking to the cops, then I would be like, oh, this

is someone who's going through it.

Because my take on this was like, we say all the time that we're not supposed to judge

people's like reactions in the crisis or whatever.

And I can understand the Anthony being like, you don't know, like, that's how I

act.

Like I look calm, but I'm, I'm freaking out or whatever.

But everything is like, um, I don't, um, and it's just, it's hard for me to swallow

this because it feels like he's just saying buzzwords that he thinks he shouldn't say.

And it's not the only time he does it.

No.

And now the next thing is like, we got to figure out what he was doing for those 30

hours.

And why did you wait?

Right.

So they asked him, what were you actually doing?

Yeah.

And I'm like, oh my god, more of this.

I know.

We also know we're really going to clear answer.

He says he felt like the house gets rated.

This is his now fourth story, I didn't tell him to have gets rated that day.

Nine o'clock he goes to bed, he wakes up at five, 30 or six in the morning and she's gone.

He said, can I, you're not up all night asking questions, calling a lawyer.

You're not like trying to strategize and figure out whether you did something right or

wrong, yeah, you're not up with Steve being like, what the fuck do you know, I would be

a cozy and bed at nine o'clock.

Absolutely not.

Yeah, absolutely not, then he said 7.45 AM and he takes her stun to school and then now he's out looking for her because in his story

He gets a bit 5.30 or 6. She's gone takes good school goes looking for and he is gonna say I didn't believe that she was missing at that point

But as time goes on, I started to get a little bit more worried a little bit more worried and then a little bit more worried

So why did you wait 30 hours to report him missing?

I didn't think that you're supposed to report until 24 hours that I know is not the case now

Well, I didn't believe she was missing at that point fine

However, your house was raided the night before if this was any other day and she goes for a run at 5.30 and by seven

She's not home. Okay. Yeah, I think she went for an extended run

She whatever but you were raided 12 hours earlier not even and also then his story changes because it's when it goes from

I didn't think she was missing to I didn't think I could report her for 24 hours right and then you waited another six

Right, so what are you saying to me Anthony? No, but he does say because the house got raided yesterday

She's supposed to show up a court today, but she doesn't show up in court

That's when it clicks to him that she's missing

Anthony I know stop I know I know I know

But it's also like you think she's gonna go out for a run and they go right to court in her running costume

Like she like what you didn't go home to take a shower for court. Maybe that's when and then

Suddenly in eight days into the inquest the cops just like stop caring about Anthony. Yeah, we're told I know

It's funny to you because when he does not get back up on this stand and say all of this all of a sudden everybody from the cops to the journalist to the Facebook group

Girlings are like he's a he's a victim in this too. He's not a site. He's like we feel bad for Anthony