672: Wars At The Whitehouse Ft. Jiří Procházka, Lerone Murphy & Lone'er Kavanagh

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You're listening to Believe You Me

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and Paul Felder.

Welcome to the show everyone.

I was just telling Paul.

Ha!

It's a little bit of a rush on this morning, Paul.

Oh, we were in Las Vegas 3, 2, 6.

We're going to go on about that.

Gonna have a bed,

ran three miles in record time.

Didn't my red light therapy.

Didn't my weight.

Didn't my sauna.

Just gone out of it.

Showered, jumped in the pool.

And now here I am.

Well, jumped in the pool.

Then I showered.

Now we're here talking to you.

The Irish dragon.

We got Yuri Pahashka.

We got Laurent Murphy.

We got Lonnie Kavanaugh.

They're all joining us.

Plus we've got the PMF madness to all talk about.

Plus the White House.

Yeah.

As always, I shout at the top of the show

and then I say, how you doing?

I had a way less productive day

than you did.

I tried to run.

It didn't go well.

I think from going from

me and you working the desk

straight to being on that red eye,

sitting like that for a few hours.

I had a connection in Chicago.

Got off the plane.

I biked yesterday when I got home.

Outside broke down.

My bottom bracket on my bike broke.

30 miles from home.

I had to call an Uber to get home.

So my hip was a mess today.

I tried to go riding or I go running.

It didn't work out.

Taking the kids bowling after this though.

So that'll be fun.

We'll get back to it tomorrow.

So, but you're right.

We have a shit ton of stuff to talk about

between our guests.

What went down this weekend?

The White House being announced

the rumors of what fight might have fallen off.

John Jones going live on Instagram

and falling asleep.

I came back absolutely exhausted

because the bloody clock's changed, right?

I mean, it was about 12 by the time I got to bed.

And I thought, oh, this is great.

I'm going to end it because my flight.

Yeah, I'm going to get some real sweet.

I'm going to get some good sleep.

But the clock's changed.

Walk up for a pee at about 430.

Because I knew I was getting picked up.

Couldn't get back to sleep.

Came back at another nice little day by the pool.

And a couple of cheeky beers.

Nothing crazy.

Callum comes out.

I'm like, come and join us by the pool.

You miserable son.

Get out of your bed here.

Come and see your father.

That is toiling your way.

Working his ass off.

Come and see me.

Anyway, he comes, he says,

did you see John Jones?

He's seen go live and he showed me a little clip.

And he just looked like he logged on for a second

and then logged off.

And I'm like, yeah,

that's fine.

I said, like, maybe he hit the live button by accident.

He's like, that if you're not seeing the other stuff,

I'm like, no, I've just got back.

And then apparently there was tweeting and deleting.

There was all kinds of shit going on.

Oh, yeah, him.

He was active.

Our boy Connor was out there,

tweeting and calling people out,

bitching about the BMF belt.

And he'd been doing it on Friday when he was bitching about them,

cutting weight to make the thing.

And I mean, where should we start really

with what went down this weekend?

Let's get Hamilton and Brian on.

This is the democracy.

It is our show.

And credit to,

credit to Brian, right?

I mean, I think it was Brian that was a Brian at back

of course,

all of our shows all over the era this weekend.

We couldn't have been more wrong.

Mike Hamilton, you're looking for all the smooth today.

Thanks, man.

I've been, you know, waking up.

I'm sorry.

You know, you're sound smooth.

I know.

You're out and out, my brother.

But you look good.

You look good.

As do you, Brian, of course.

I called you on to ask you where shall we start.

But now I'm going to say, hold on a minute.

Get off the screen because I know where we start.

We're good to see your boys.

Bit of a rushed one.

I mean, we've got to start with the BMF fight on Saturday.

Now, me and you were doing the desk,

me and you and Dustin Poirey.

Great to hang out with Dustin,

because that's the first time I've ever done that.

Obviously, I've met him in passing

around the UFC, said hi.

Sat next to him at five, it's a couple of times.

But to spend the whole entire day and evening,

just like getting to know him a little bit.

Great guy, great guy.

And that was a lot of fun.

I'll throw it to you in a second.

So when the fight started,

I was losing my mind.

Charles Laveira goes out there.

He's pushing the pace.

He's going forward like he always does.

Cracks him with a big right hand.

Gets the tape down with authority.

Takes the back, dropping elbows.

I'm like, oh my god, he's going to smoke Max Holloway

within one round.

But he didn't.

And then the second round, I was like,

whoa, he's going to do it again.

And he didn't.

And then the third, it was the same.

And the excitement level dropped a bit.

Then it was the fourth round.

And then it was the fifth round.

And by then, a lot of people were booing and stuff like that.

Now, I do a post show for the UK broadcast, the TNT sports.

Nick Pete, who I respect greatly.

His opinion was like a lot of people's online.

It was like, that's not what the BMS about.

It's supposed to be guys going out there,

giving us violence, throwing it all out there,

taking chances, taking risks.

Not being safe and this and that.

And I said, my council was, I get what you say.

And I'll pass it to you now.

My council was like, yeah, what are you saying?

But imagine if Charles did that.

Imagine if he did rocking, taking that,

and then choke him out in the first round.

That would be pretty badass.

Yeah, yeah.

I get what people are saying.

And I do kind of sympathize and understand that

when we think of this BMF belt,

we think of these blood and guts fighters,

we think of going toe-to-toe.

I think we upgraded to two title challenges,

two former champions.

And I think unfortunately,

it actually kind of watered down what the BMF belt

was really all about in the beginning.

When it started with somebody like Jorge

and somebody like Nate Diaz,

where you know that's the kind of fight you're going to get.

Justin Gagey, Dustin Porier,

you know that primarily that's how they fight.

Now, you get a guy like Charles,

you get a guy like Max.

These guys, yeah, they have the had these blood and guts moments,

but they're also still at the very top of their game.

So we're Justin and Gagey,

but you know how they're going to act.

Whereas Max is a little smoother with it,

and up until that knockout,

if we remember back,

up until he KO'd Justin, it was systematic.

It was not really a BMF type fight either.

It was a pretty smooth decision on his way.

Then he did the most BMF thing imaginable

with the last 10 seconds.

And Charles did that same thing.

It was too easy for him.

Why on earth would he do that?

So I think the BMF needs to either change, move around,

do different weight classes.

Me and Brian were even talking before the show,

before we got on that.

It's got to jump around.

Maybe some more catch me.

Maybe go back to making it guys that truly are just kind of

blood and guts,

because I don't think they're ever going to change the rules for it.

We were also talking to my hot people like,

there should be no grappling.

It's still an MMA fight.

We can't say no grappling.

100% and you bring up a great point.

And we joked a while ago, or I just said,

why when do the bigger guys get a shot?

I don't think, and it just occurred to me,

I don't think it necessarily has to constantly be a lineage.

Has to constantly be the guy that has the BMF

is the next guy to fight for it.

Right.

All right, you wouldn't the BMF belt.

You get to have that at home forever there.

Yeah, you're now that you live in history.

Yeah.

You live in history and you have no obligation to defend that.

And then let a bit of time pass.

So obviously, you know, they become nostalgic and people

want to see a BMF fight again.

And then they look around and go, right,

I mean, it's fighting for an undisputed table.

Someone like Yiri, he's a BMF.

I've heard someone like Yiri or someone like,

I don't know, I mean, Perraver is a BMF,

but you know what I'm saying?

You just pick two of the guys

when in a matter of time as pass, they go, right.

These two, I've been such warriors inside the octagon.

We're going to give them the ultimate chance

because they deserve, yeah,

maybe they're not in line for an undisputed belt.

Yeah.

But the fan base all agreed.

We agree.

Everyone watching agrees that these two deserve

some kind of appreciation, a trophy,

a piece of memorabilia and the accolade of being a UFC bad

motherfucker.

Yeah.

I agree with that.

I agree with that.

They just do one fight at the end of the year,

like the 2026 BMF.

Yeah, that's not a bad idea, either annual,

just making it a yearly thing.

Like, okay, who this year demonstrated those values

of what a BMF is and get to fight for it?

That's an amazing idea.

Are we called Dana?

We're going to call Dana.

We're going to call Zach.

We're going to not listen.

Guys, guys, we've got it.

We figured it out.

We sat around with Mike Harrington, Brian McKay,

two of the best minds in the sport.

We know this.

You know that.

And we figured it out on the fly five minutes

into the podcast.

I'll be honest.

I think we did just figure it out.

Ha, ha, ha.

I think that would stop if they were to say that,

it would quell, if that's the word,

the negativity online.

Yeah.

Yeah, quell.

Figure it out.

Did you guys see Max Holloway

want got his black belt off of his defensive performance?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, that does happen.

That does happen.

Maybe they were planning on giving it to him anyway.

And the thought that he was going to win, but he didn't win.

And then I feel bad for the guy.

Let's give him a black belt.

Like I told you.

I appreciate it.

Not really thinking about how it looks when you just, again,

Max did do a good job defensively.

But we all know that, that, I don't know, that I wouldn't want to get my black belt

after having just been mauled on the ground for almost 25 minutes.

Hey, you didn't get submitted.

That was a black belt.

How did you always got an interest in take?

How did you fix the audio issues?

Is he even that?

What do you think about what you just proposed?

You are a little loud.

Yeah, no, I would absolutely love to see that.

Just retire because we do want to see it.

We want to see it up and down the line with these guys who,

I like Conor's proposal, though.

Did you see his idea?

I'll come back.

I'll take the belt from Charles Olivera.

That'll set up a BMF for the trilogy fight with Nate Diaz.

And it's like, I don't know, man.

Putting a bounty on a head of a guy like Charles Olivera is kind of fun, too.

I think Conor, thank you very much.

I think Conor has had two on this beauty titles.

He's had ridiculous amounts of opportunities.

I'm all excited for him to come back and fight.

I'm intrigued to see who that's going to be.

But I don't think you need to give a BMF belt to Conor.

There's plenty of other people that embodied that spirit,

the only UFC roster,

maybe that fly under the radar.

Like for example,

and we're not getting into the White House,

the opening card, Steve, the opening fight,

Steve Garcia Diego Lopez.

Steve Garcia is on an A-File win streak.

All stopper G's mainly in the first round.

I'll be invites to go BMF.

He fights like a BMF.

100 percent.

Yeah, I agree.

Guys like that, perhaps, you know.

So, all right.

So, Olivera, impressive, unbelievable, Max Holloway,

to be fair again, just staying on that.

A lot of that was down to Max Holloway,

not being able to stop a tie down,

being able to absorb those shots,

because remember, Holloway's dropped a lot of people,

didn't drop Max, so he had to take him down,

and then Max couldn't get back to his feet.

I'm not ripping on Max.

I'm saying the reason it played out like that

is because for the most part, Max couldn't get back up.

When he did get back up with just like five or six seconds left,

they threw down a little bit.

And if Max was able to stand earlier,

we would have seen more of that kind of action.

It does take two to tango.

I don't think all the blame.

In fact, I don't think there needs to be any blame.

I just think people went in with their expectations too high in hindsight.

Yeah, 100%.

Everybody went thinking it was just going to be an absolute war,

and we've kind of been, on most occasions,

treated to that when this belt has been on the line.

Again, even when Max and Gachi fought,

even though it was not quite as blood and guts,

he broke his nose with the spinning back kick,

Gachi throwing haymakers every chance he gets to try to get in and knock him out.

And then ultimately, it ends in probably the greatest knockout,

potentially in UFC history,

with one second left on the clock.

So coming off of that,

and then Porier Max really laid it out on the line.

They dropped each other multiple times throughout that fight.

I agree.

I think we just were expecting this back and forth action.

When somebody was dominant, it's kind of while we're booing.

And you can't blame Charles when you're, you just,

what are you going to do?

He did let him up a little bit at the end for the last 10 seconds,

but it was really four seconds.

And then also from the inception of it,

we were kind of spoiled,

because you got two of the biggest gangsters

that were ever involved in the sport.

Jorge Mazvidal and Nate Diaz, you know what I'm saying?

And like those guys only fight a single way, you know what I mean?

And their entire attitude, their spirit,

their approach to everything in life,

is that of a bad motherfucker.

Do you know what I'm saying?

So like that, it's set the stall high.

You can't always have that.

And this final point will move on.

And I think people forget,

you say, well, Max, sorry, Charles should have back to weight.

He should have given the people what they wanted,

just like Max Holloway did against Gagey.

You got to remember, and you got to respect the sport.

I'm sitting here with one eye.

We have a heavyweight champion that's not currently active

because he got injured.

I have severe neck pain, two total knee replacements.

It's not a game that you play.

It's not football or basketball.

I don't need to use those analogies

because they've been used many times.

But if you got, all right, okay, I'm gonna let him up.

And then you get sparked out, you get your nose broken,

your jaw broken, you're never the same fighter

or the human being ever again.

You know what I mean?

It's easy to say that.

But if you're the guy on top,

that's getting close to a real naked choke.

You want us to be out, no, not alive.

He's gonna get up and say, screw that.

Come on, let's go.

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Yeah, I didn't see it happening.

I was surprised to even gave him that tiny little bit

at the end, credit to him for even doing that.

But even in that, even in that last exchange,

it was Charles Atlanta better shots.

I really think the way he was looking

and how good he looked.

And I don't know if his dad and his mom

and his wife and kids mean in the crowd

or whatever it was,

but that mother effort was dialed in.

He was on point.

And I think even if it had played out on the feet longer,

I don't know, man.

I think it was Charles night

no matter which way it was going to go down.

That's a great point because I had the same thoughts yesterday.

I was thinking about it.

I did a little video walking through the Las Vegas airport

and had the same thought.

I don't think, and I won't say it earlier to Portia

because he sparked it.

But other than that, that earlier,

I don't think anybody was beating Charles Lovar

that night.

There was something different about him,

like just the intensity, the ability,

the strength, the takedowns.

He was as ready as a fighter ever has been.

He didn't slow down one Iota throughout 25 minutes

of pushing the pace really hard.

And save all your company men, Bollocks.

Be honest, be honest.

I was on the edge of my seat when the fight first started.

You invested because I was doing my little stupid videos

from a YouTube.

You just didn't chop it up the whole time.

Did you start to get bored and think,

oh, were you still like this is intriguing?

No, I was still intrigued.

And again, I have history.

Dustin has history with both of those guys.

So we were really fascinated to see if Max

was ever going to be able to get his moment.

And I was waiting for the finish to be completely honest.

The way it was trending, I was kind of,

there were so many times where he almost got on the jaw

or under the neck.

Now, I wish Max could have been able to get back up more

so that we would have seen more of that,

like everybody else I'm human.

I would have liked to see those two throw down,

especially because of how good Olivera's striking

looked that night, but it is what it is.

Now, let me ask you, Paul,

I'm going to give you the opportunity

to big yourself up a bit here.

How does it feel to sit there as one of the few men

on this planet that has a legitimate win?

Is it two or just one?

One.

One.

Yeah.

You have a legitimate win over the batter's mother ever

in the UFC.

And if I remember rightly, it wasn't

a particularly tough night at the office.

Now, he almost got me in round one,

and then from there on, it was elbows and punches to the face.

Now, granite, I'll be the first to say that,

I think he's a different person at this stage of the game,

but when we both met, then it was a fair play that night.

Yeah.

You know, I went into his wheelhouse, too,

which you see a lot of people and Dustin even talked about it

when we were on the desk were, I don't want to say afraid,

but wary of going to the guard with Charles

because of how slick he is off his back.

And in the moment, I could feel him getting a little bit weaker

throughout the fight when you land shots.

And you've seen that in Charles's fights before.

He gets wobbled, he gets hurt.

And it feels really good.

Yeah, listen, you know, you can sit round the pub in Philly,

sit there with your buddies, even though you don't drink,

and you're just sitting there with your water

and then like your lecture and everyone

about how many miles you do on the bike.

And then they say, Paul's kind of changed.

And you can say, yeah, but I still beat the BMF.

That's right.

Don't get it.

Don't forget it.

Even better.

Made him tap to strikes.

Oh, elbows to the face.

Didn't stop hitting him.

I mean, the man's out of control.

Jesus, Paul, get a grippy yourself.

I'm crazy.

Come on, come on, Rebecca's bringing me some water

and that's why I was testing.

Come here, come here.

Come here.

Oh, nice.

Come on, would you come over here?

I was a little bit late because we late me.

We were working out in the garage.

We were working out in the garage.

I'm just coming a little closer to you on the camera.

Rebecca always, it ends up like an argument

or a bigger in the garage.

Because I'm trying to speed things along

because I've got to get the podcast done.

And it's important that women lift weights.

She's sick of hearing that.

But like, so how's Paul?

How are you?

I'm good.

How are you?

Be great on the desk, by the way, at the weekend.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I she never said that to me.

I do.

I do.

I think you brought me to my spot.

I do that, actually.

It's almost like we've got chemistry.

You know what?

It was like your own.

It was quite a believey me.

It did kind of did feel like that.

I mean, it's just me and Dustin, obviously,

with history with both those guys.

It was a smooth desk weekend.

It was very smooth.

Let me ask you a question as a very, very, very,

very casual family who makes martial arts.

So casual.

What did you make of the main event?

And don't worry about anything.

Just give your honest opinion.

I hated it.

Oh, I worked for the UFC.

I was just so frustrating because Matt wanted to actually

fight and only there.

Only there.

Only there.

I mean, don't get me wrong.

Yes, he wanted to fight.

But it was just a then it was very frustrating for a fan

as such as myself that wants to see actual fighting and not

just like holding him on the ground in like, you know,

in top control or whatever you call it.

I don't know, but it was just boring to watch.

I'm sure.

Especially for, but that's a good point, right?

For the casual fan when there's something called the BMF

belt on the line.

And that's why we're seeing as much frustration with the

general public.

No, I'm not.

I'm not paramount.

We were on CBS this week either, man.

That was the Cody Garb ran fight when he's getting kicked

in the balls.

He's throwing up in a bucket.

I'm thinking I kind of I turned it on at that point.

And I yeah.

Yeah.

So hold on.

So I missed that up until I got home.

So that was it wasn't on Paramount Plus.

That was on mainstream TV.

I think you could.

I think if you wanted to just watch everything on Paramount,

I think you could have watched it all the way through

on Paramount Plus.

But for the people that maybe don't have that and have CBS

or just regular cable at home, they could have watched a bunch

of the the fights were also aired on CBS.

Oh, I mean, that is a big deal.

That is.

Yeah, I mean, you know, guys at home just scrolling through

their TV that don't even have advanced cable and just have

like the most basic package you're going to you're going

to stumble upon the UFC on a Saturday night.

So this is why I was at the airport Sunday morning and I'm

scrolling social media as you do killing time.

And I saw a lot of, you know, in the 4U section on Twitter.

There was a lot of accounts that I don't follow that had a

ton of interactions who was coming up on the feed.

And these accounts were said this was my first time sitting

down and watching the UFC fight.

And I got to say I found it pretty boring.

That's why.

Yeah.

It was a and listen.

That's the sport.

Unfortunately, we can't forget about saying that's just that's

just you sometimes look at the Super Bowl.

I'm not a football fan.

And it's up on my own.

Yeah.

Was a one night.

Yeah.

So that's what pisses me off too, though.

It's like don't act like other games sports and don't

suck sometimes.

Like you can watch a basketball game, a baseball game, a soccer

game, God forbid, where there's no scoring whatsoever.

How many times we see Neil Nill in soccer, you know, 90 minutes

and then over time.

Yeah.

It's still not.

OK, well, that was an excellent bit of input from a very casual.

But yeah, it's very casual.

Hard working and excellent householding wife.

That's a good segment, Michael.

It is.

She remembered.

No, no, no, we're putting that out as a separate video.

I'm already done.

Oh, right.

Be brave yourself.

I've been in the garage working out like a maniac with you.

Your face is a bit shiny.

That's what I'm talking about.

I'm ready.

I haven't had it my nose.

I have blemishes.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, you blemish in the podcast.

It's time you left.

Thank you, sweetheart.

Thank you, sweetheart.

No, but that is actually, thank you, babe.

No, but that is interesting because we haven't had a

conversation.

I got back and last thing she was to talk to me about is the fight.

She was like, what did you do in Vegas?

She did.

She's not like that at all.

But yeah, but with it being broadcast to so many new eyeballs,

it is a shame that it wasn't five rounds of non-stop action.

But as you just said, as we mentioned, football,

basketball, basketball, basketball does a point or basket every few seconds.

But soccer is the best example.

And it's the most popular sport on the planet.

And baseball, even for US fans, similar to that where it can be a game

that just nothing, nothing is happening.

Or it can be eight home runs in a game, three men on base,

you know, like a double guys are trying to run and then to guys out at home,

like there can be absolute chaos out of nowhere.

And fighting can be just like that, too, where it can be a pretty

standard fight.

And then all the last three minutes of a round can be crazy.

And you just got to invest in, I think the longer we're on CBS,

the longer we're on Paramount, people are giving us crap.

They're giving you a seat crap.

We've had some shows that maybe haven't lived up to the potential

that we thought they would.

It's going to happen.

It's still early, we're in March.

There's a bunch of great fights coming up.

It's, it is.

We have ups and downs, like any sport in the world.

Yeah, yeah, fully agree.

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We have about 15 minutes before Yuri jumps on.

That is a BMF.

That is fine for the belts.

Kyle Williams.

Him fight for that.

Like, let's say he wins this belt,

but then down the line,

sometime he loses it or even doesn't.

Like he's a worthy guy of fighting for that championship.

Yeah, he is.

I would say if you knew from this beauty champ,

you don't fight for the BMF.

Right.

You've got to say he never gets there and it doesn't go his way.

So I don't want to say that because obviously we have a Monday day

and I, I think he absolutely has a chance

of becoming the undisputed champion of the world.

But if he doesn't, God forbid,

he's got a chance to become in some kind of champion

and it's the BMF champ.

Yeah, I don't think we need to have the BMF underundisputed

up for grabs at the same time.

If you're the undisputed champion of the world,

it doesn't get any bigger than that.

You're the undisputed champion of the world

in the biggest combat sports promotion on the planet, right?

The BMF is for, as we said,

other people that embody that spirit

and deserve some attention.

Deserve.

Troph is not the right word.

It just deserves to be remembered and outlined in history.

You know, because it'll go down one of the BMF's

which is a very, very short list right now.

So anyway, we've got lots of

Kyle Bahalia looked phenomenal.

Renier Derrida.

He'll say it.

I like Renier.

Is it isn't a normal guy?

He's not easily offended.

He can look like shit.

It wasn't a good fight.

But Bahalia was fantastic.

Yeah, Derrida's problem is he, I think he's very strong.

I think he's very good when he gets top pressure on the ground.

I think he's tough as nails.

As we've seen, he's been hit with some nasty shots

in his last few fights.

He just doesn't have that explosiveness

that some of these middle-weights have.

A mob off would give him a lot of trouble, I think.

Obviously, Bahalia just gave him a lot of trouble.

I think somebody Sean Strickland,

again, who has some good speed

and puts punches together.

We give him a lot of problems.

Obviously, Shemaev, who's just a marauder

and there will give him trouble.

So I think he had a really good run

and I think he's got to try to focus really hard

at this stage of his career to see if he can get some

a little extra speed or work the wrestling.

I don't know where Doriter goes from here,

but I got that one right.

I had a rough night of picks.

Well, we never even got through all of them

because we ran out of time on the pre-show

before the fight started.

We only got to pick that one and the main.

So technically on tape,

where we only had two picks

and we were, you were right.

No, you were wrong on one

and we were both wrong on the other one.

Well, I did the full main card on my YouTube channel

and I got two out of five right.

So it wasn't pretty good.

But Bahaliyah looked phenomenal,

looked very confident in Han's low slick head movement.

Just a really, really good performance.

More impressive than that on the microphone

calling out Drikus Duplexi

because that was a great call out

because he knows he's not going to get the tile shop.

That's Drikland or Imavov.

We'll wait and see.

But you want a big fight

that kind of puts you in that position next.

Drikus Duplexi has been very quiet lately

other than doing an interview last week

where he says that he felt like he was winning

that she may have fought up until the final round

which was a bit of a weird take,

but whatever.

I like the guy.

But where the hell has Drikus Duplexi been?

He's been so quiet.

He's been so quiet.

And he's got to fight somebody.

There's guys calling for him.

Brendan Allen wants him.

Now Kyle Bahaliyah wants him.

And I think coming off that performance

you got to think that Bahaliyah

may be the front runner.

Who's ranked tires?

Brendan actually ranked higher than Bahaliyah.

Well, let me just magically bring up the rankings.

Because he needs a fight.

So I think it's going to really come down to Duplexi

with the UFC is, who do you want?

Because both those guys make sense for him.

So Drikus is number one.

He's still number one.

No, I know Drikus is.

What about Brendan and Bahaliyah?

Brendan's four.

Kyle's seven.

So you would think of your Drikus.

You're probably actually going to go after Brendan Allen.

Now, who's the, if you're Drikus, Michael?

Who are you fighting?

You got two options.

They say you can have Brendan Allen

or you can have Kyle Bahaliyah.

Who do you want?

If I want to secure a victory and state my case

and say, I ain't going nowhere.

I want that title fight again.

This sounds really bad to us, Brendan Allen,

but I picked Brendan.

Yeah, and he's ranked higher than B.

Because he, Brendan's really, really good.

And when he's on, he's on.

He's on.

Yeah, just like where he's off.

You know what I'm saying?

Where is Bahaliyah for the most part

other than Imavov is pretty consistent.

And he's really good.

And he never looked better on that,

that what he did on Saturday night.

And Imavov is freaking good, man.

Like he's going to, he makes a lot of people look bad.

He's probably got the best hand speed

in the entire division, hands down.

Yeah.

So I'm with you.

I think if I'm, if I'm drickest,

I'm taking my chances against,

against Brendan, but I don't know.

I don't know what he thinks, you know?

I'm not okay.

Right.

So we've got about 10 minutes.

So we're going to get to this before we get to Yeary

because he's relevant and his current and it's all

anyone's talking about, but we'll start off.

White out.

Harrington, thoughts on the White House card.

Oh, Freedom 250.

Freedom 50, baby.

I'm very excited for, for Freedom 250.

You know, I think for, for what are we talking about here, right?

The two biggest stars in the sport by any measure.

It's got to be Alex Pereira and, and, and Ilya Toporia.

So to have them both on one card in their primes,

like at the top of their drawing power,

unlike anything we've seen since maybe UFC 100.

So very happy about that.

Let me ask you, a lot of people may saying it, right?

And I think I agree with you.

You've got two massive stars and Justin Gachi as well

who's still an absolute massive star.

And you should, I mean, you should have been in the building

to hear the pop that he got when they announced that he's

going to be headlining with Ilya in the White House.

I just think because it's been so long and so much anticipation

and all the rumors have been swirling around.

And some pundits have said this to that.

I think we were expecting just like our minds to load

when we saw the card.

And really when you sit back and you look at it,

there's a good mix of like guys on the come up,

a guy like Steve Garcia who's going to give you violence

from the beginning of the night right there.

Then Rufi who's unbelievable to watch,

Chandler who's going to just move forward

and get punched in the face most of the time.

And then people are giving both nickel crap for Doc

as my Philly boy, but guess what?

He's got to fight somebody and a lot of people

said, no, that bone nickel, including Kobe Covington

who won't fight anybody.

I'll be honest, I was a little surprised at the bone nickel.

Sorry, sorry, the Kyle Dawkers.

I know you bought him and I'm not trying to rip him.

I was surprised that he made it to the White House card

and I think that's kind of where some people are talking shit.

And I was talking to a couple of people at the airport

as well and they were like, I didn't know them from Adam,

but they were UFC fans.

They were in town and they were like,

well, we expected like Brock Lesnar or this, that,

or something wild.

And I'm like, well, Brock Lesnar is very much old,

too old now to do that.

I mean, and they're like, well, you know, like somebody

like the Rock, we wanted something crazy.

I'm like, well, the Rocks never had a fight in his life.

I get what they're saying.

It would have been great if it was because we don't,

I can't think of a single example right now.

All right, maybe he just became a free agent.

Let's say Francis Engarnou.

That would have been a big shock, you know what I mean?

Who else, who else is there that they could have done?

I mean, they were talking about maybe Gabel's debut.

Gabel Steven would have involved.

They haven't then though.

Like, they had three fights.

And like you're talking about these other,

we don't, that's for those other,

that's for Netflix and Jake Paul and those guys

to take those kind of,

I don't want to say freak show fights

because they're still legitimate fights.

But, you know, over the top type fights

and things that maybe don't make sense.

You have seasoned the business of putting prime athletes

in positions to be fighting other prime athletes.

Like, what people are given, Ron,

well, why did you have to snatch up Ronda and Gina Carano

because we don't want, that we don't want that.

I will watch it.

I have no problem with it happening,

but it's not going to happen in an octagon in the White House.

And for example, I just said Francis Engarnou, right?

There was a lot of troubles with Francis Engarnou

when he was on the management.

And then I told the story recently,

a few months ago about how like,

where Engarnou made threats

or grabbed him and stuff like that.

And a lot of people were calling bullshit on it.

Engarnou never denied it.

And by the way, I'll say this now,

I heard that story years ago, not from then white.

So when there's been stuff like that,

you're going to be like, I'm not going to reward that guy

and make him into a global sensation.

And that's another thing as well.

You like, you got to put people on this.

You got to think this is going to be one

of the most watch cards of all time, right?

Probably the most I would assume.

Maybe I'm wrong.

Whoever wins on this card

and puts on great performances,

they're going to have, they're going to become stars

super star in this sport overnight.

So you want to make sure that if I'm a promoter

that they have longevity, they have a future

that you're going to be able to work with.

Like in the company, like you get Steve Garcia

to have a big win over Diego on the White House

or vice versa.

These are guys that are already embedded in your company

that just need that push that are going to bring violence

and you give them a chance, right?

And they were ready.

The other thing is there was a lot of fights

that just couldn't get put together

because of injuries, Islam's hand is hurt.

Kayla Harrison's neck is hurt.

I guarantee that there was fights

that could have got put together.

But they're not ready.

It has to all work around that date.

The usual suspects who are around online,

you know, criticizing to the cows come home, right?

But what you got to understand is,

and again, I'm not trying to defend the UFC.

They don't watch this, okay?

But we know the business at a higher level, right?

They don't, they don't watch it.

They don't care.

Zach even asked us and that's kind of like the guy

that booked the school.

Are you still doing the podcast together?

Yeah, exactly.

That's what they say watch every week.

Do you guys still do that podcast together?

That podcast.

You mean the award-winning believe you me?

They don't give a fuck.

We're allowed to say what we feel.

But we know the business.

We speak to these fighters.

We speak to the managers.

We're at almost every bloody event.

And we know from being fighters,

training for this sport is one of the hardest things

you can do.

And the reality is a lot of the big names right now

are just injured.

Now granted, there is the whole John John saga.

And maybe that would have been cool, you know?

And then came out and said they were never in negotiation.

And our John John just kind of saying otherwise.

But from what I understood and from what I heard,

it was like there was a bunch of people

that they were potentially speaking to.

And not speaking, just checking.

It's like my daughter and you'll know this term.

She's still trying to book her like a big break.

You know what I mean?

In the acting world, God bless her.

And I give her a pep talk every day

because it's heartbreaking for her.

But she's had a couple of opportunities

or multiple actually where they check her veils, right?

And I'm like, they've checked your availability.

Oh, you've got this part, Ellie.

And she never hears from them ever again.

Right?

It's her and other people.

And maybe if somebody else can't, you get it.

And that's not even a insult.

Sometimes that's how you break through.

But but but that's what the UFC would do

into a lot of people.

They were checking emails.

They were like, would you be, you know,

just so they can have all of these conversations.

Because remember, Justin Gagey came to the post office.

He didn't even know that he was going to be on.

Did you know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

And we had heard that, right?

We had heard that, you know, that that was exactly it.

Like we were we were picking and just trying to get dirt

from every producer.

Everybody that we could talk to.

And we got a lot of that where it's like, listen,

there's a lot of things that they're not even sure

what's going on.

And then finally, we were there on Fight Night.

And that's when I found out that we were going to find out tonight.

I had no idea until the night of the show,

like, hey, by the way, we're announcing it tonight.

So I just wanted to ask if you guys got any color

because the one fight that wasn't on there that I think a lot

of people would have been super hyped about.

Hamza versus Sean Strickland.

Was there any talk about that?

Like that you guys heard of at least or any idea

why that one wouldn't be on there with the most American guy.

Oh, right.

Hamza is not in a position right now to fight.

I believe at 185 pounds as far as you have it.

Now he's motivated because he's down in Newport Beach.

He's training his ass off with Sam Calabita.

He's like a renowned strength and conditioning coach.

He's like video probably more the time.

He is working his ass off.

So he's working towards something.

But from what I understand, June is far too soon.

He let himself get too big.

And the other thing I was going to say too for people.

And again, some of the people on the card,

I was surprised that I had nothing against Amin Zahabi.

Nothing again.

I was surprised at that one.

Same.

I was surprised at that one.

But guess what?

Again, it comes down to availability.

These guys are green to certain matchups

and who's going to fight who.

And I was just going to say something about, oh, you can't.

I know early on Trump said a lot of things

that I think kind of threw people off too

that it's all going to be title fights.

And it's going to, you know, it's going to be great.

It's going to be title fights.

And it's like that.

That's the shit Trump does.

Right.

He says outland is things sometimes.

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Well, there he is.

My brother, good to see you.

Thank you for your time.

Good to see you too.

Hey, we were just talking about the BMF situation

and we said one guy that is definitely a BMF

is the one and only.

Check out the back of Samurai, Yuri Prohashka.

Would you like one day to fight for a light heavyweight BMF belt?

Yeah, I don't know why,

but maybe because today interview,

but I thought about that today.

I thought about that and I just got an idea

and got I think the BMF title will win the guy who will stay

in the center of the octagon and like Max Holloway just showed

with the hand to the center and stay there and all the round

on the time just these pure violence, pure pure BMF.

And we'll get to your fight obviously in just a second

and a comment.

What's what you think?

Oh, I love about that.

I'm about that idea.

Have you ever seen the boxing drill where they put a tire like

a tire?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Get a tire label with UFC all around it.

Put your foot in that tire and let it go short distance.

But let's do that with the highest the best.

Please, you know, yeah, you know, just just two guys.

But also like Olivier Ra, he had like totally an understreet

strategy strategy.

So and he used that and he was successful.

So yeah.

What did you think of it from a fan perspective, you know,

what was your opinion on the fight?

Man, Olivier Ra was on a different level of strength,

different level of strength and endurance and ground game.

So so for Max, it was really tough, tough fight to handle that

like amazing defense, amazing defense from the from the back

to have all Olivier Ra in the back and have these defense

that was really amazing, really good.

But but he was much, much, it, it, everybody saw that he was

much, much stronger.

And I think it was not, not, not good for, for Max to go with

so heavier guy.

Yeah.

So that is not what we got you on head to speak about.

You know, Paul, you get the next question.

In getting about one month's time, you will be stepping into the

octagon once again for the undisputed light heavyweight

championship of the world, taking on Carlos Olberg in beautiful

Miami Florida.

When did you find out about this?

How did this come together?

And I guess in some ways, it's do a little part of you that

sad that it's not going to be Alex Pereira again.

Sorry, that's a loaded question.

But

Negotiation started after my last fight.

So in

in October last year.

And more, more clear when the Tom Aspinal injured himself

with the eye, then Alex Pereira started speaking about moving

up.

And then we start to negotiate about, about to fight

Olberg for a title and only possible, possible date for us.

They told us like 11, 11 April, 11 of April.

So and for me, it still is still it is so close to the birth of

of my first child because the date date is around 13 of April.

So first flight, first flight after, after flight, I have to

fly back because it can be, I believe it will be a little

bit later few days.

So the parade, I imagine that gives you that extra motivation

knowing that she's going through that that it could be any second

while you're in that octagon.

Is that give you incentive to try to go out there and make a quick

work and get back home to see your, is it you know if it's a

boy or a girl?

Yeah, it's a girl.

It's a girl.

It's a girl.

And I didn't care if the boy or girl, I'm I'm praying to fall

for the health health kit and.

And for me, it's no matter if I, if it will be like, you have to

have to be fast way and go back.

No, that's a matter.

This is not, you know, this have no, no impact on the fight.

Right.

Give it just a little just just a little pressure.

I feel like from the, it's so close.

And you know, I like the pressure.

You could try and use this as a negotiation and say to Dana.

I need a private.

But I need a private yet on standby to take me back to the Czech Republic

immediately with your global still on shorts on.

Get that on camera.

Yeah.

And the belt.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How good with that feel, Yuri, with all that pressure knowing that

she's going to have the baby any day around that championship to get

that belt wrapped around your waist.

And then not only that, but the celebration to be able to go home and

celebrate that with your new baby girl.

How good would that feel for you, man?

This, this visualization about that.

It's like like a dream.

It's like some like what the movie, Yuri, it's like like a movie.

But you know.

I'm saying on the ground.

Being humble and keep working, keep working, keep working, keep working.

Shut up.

No, no, no, no talking.

No.

No bullshit.

Like like the like the directors from your sea last days back,

few days back.

They want to from me to say.

You see three to seven will be hot.

And I said, man, guys, please don't don't want to tell the

people.

You're making me this.

I just will be hot.

Like when you had those two boys back in your hotel room.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It'll be hot.

Talk to me about this fight.

Carlos Olberg.

He's a great guy.

There's never any controversy.

He's a really nice guy.

He's a really good fighter.

I think it's an eight five win streak.

When you look at this matchup, you know, what are your thoughts on it in general?

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Great striker.

Great striker.

Very systematic style of high level stand-up guy.

And I spoke about him with many people and I already met him in Australia last year.

Or 224.

Yeah, 224.

I met him in Australia.

It was really nice.

Really nice.

Really handled.

All everything good.

And I just.

And then I saw some videos.

He made a fan of me in some videos and.

I don't care.

I don't care.

He's a fighter.

He's a good fighter.

I have win streak.

I'm going to stop him.

I'm going to win the belt.

That's all.

That's all what I'm.

What I will do.

And Yuri, you know, you're known for your mental, your mental strength, right?

Being focused kind of how you're talking about how you felt getting closer to this belt.

In training camp, you've done some awesome things where anything from meditation or training

in the woods and rock climbing recently.

How was that and what other things have you done in preparation other than doing your

MMA training and grappling and sparring.

I'm sure you're on that.

But what fun stuff have you done leading up to this one?

Because I saw a video of you climbing what looked like a legit mountain free solo style.

What was that all about?

That was a yeah, free solo, free solo version style because.

Man, like first time.

Honestly, first time in my life, I realized man, there is a girlfriend in Czech Republic.

And she have a baby.

And it's not just about you, man.

It's not just about about to prove yourself to be.

To be brave or or I can do whatever I want in this world.

So I just I just start to think about man, you have to you have to be there.

You have to be there for and and be a man.

So that was the first time I thought about about something like that.

And.

Yeah, it was it was really nice because I had a motivation to stay professional to stay professional to to stay fully focused fully focused what I'm doing.

How in how I'm doing that because.

Yeah, there were points there was there was not so funny.

Yeah, there was not so funny and so yeah, it was legit.

Like when I saw that video, I'm like, oh, he's not just like on a you're like climbing a legit wall.

When I saw like the guys with with with with robes and with the helmets with all the equipments.

When they came back and they told me like today, no, I can't go there with you today.

I'm too tired and it's too too risky and so so so so I said it will be maybe too risky.

My colleague had no ropes, no, no ropes, no helmet.

No, no, it was like man, it's it's it.

Honestly, it was a bullshit to do that like that because because I mean, but sometimes you have to realize how sometimes you have to realize this is something was I believe I can do.

I really believe like in the deepest of my bones, I really believe I can do that and I have to do that.

Or it's a really bullshit, don't do that.

Yeah, yeah.

It's interesting what you said that year because you know, you're going to be a father for the first time.

And what we, what everyone loves about you is a how authentic you are, how real you are.

Of course, you're fighting style as well.

You're a true original. I always say that.

But now that you're going to be a father, when I when I was young, I was very reckless.

I wasn't focused. I was partying. I was doing I was living my life in a terrible way when kids came along.

That was when I was like, OK, I got to get my shit together. And that's when finally I became a man.

I grew up and and I had a successful career in the UFC.

It sounds like you've kind of, I mean, you've already you're already a champion.

You've already got an incredible career. You've already I'm assuming done very well financially.

But now that you've got the child on the way, is this going to be like a new version of Yeary Prohaska going forward?

Yeah, if there will be some new Yeary Prohaska.

It will be.

And it is right now all this preparation, all this preparation, I feel that.

Like it's all about to be more professional, more more take things, people situation, everything around more seriously.

And in the these these child game, it's end here.

So and I really welcome it because long time, long time I just played, I just played with the thoughts.

Like if to do this in five, if do this like bullshit, some some kung fu style or whatever try.

No, there is no time for trying something.

No, just go there and win.

I got to I got to tell you, I'm excited to see this version of you because you're a dangerous scary person inside of that ox gun to begin with.

If you're dialed and more committed than ever before, I think that's a dangerous man to be in front.

Yeah, I'm just praying to I'm just praying to to show that all my best in that from all that camp and from all my skills from all the career and just to show that that's all.

Let me ask you are a dangerous man, but you have a lady at home that is pregnant has hormones going everywhere.

But what is she say when you say, Hey, two days before the baby's born, I'm going to be my five.

What was her reaction?

No, we we go this way.

We go this way like long time.

Like we are together like 12, 12, 13 years together.

Yeah, it's already so.

So she already know my story.

She already she she where my long time, long time, a fan and she.

How to say she gave me a she understands and gave she gave me a lot of energy in my career to to overcome whatever and.

And in this time, she just she just told me like if it is fight 11 of April will be title fight.

I will I will push you in that and I will wish you all the best both there will win that fight and that's that's all.

Man for simply it's for me like my.

The best motivation ever and and I just I just want to just go there and do that.

It's going to work out.

You're going to you got to you got to believe everything's going to work out. It's going to be perfect.

She's you're not going to miss the birth.

I had a fight UFC 1114 rampage Jackson versus Richard Evans.

I was the comment event.

My wife was nine months pregnant and my team flew out to Las Vegas and I'm like I can't go.

Because I can't miss the birth, you know, because she was due any day now and I'm giving her spicy food and all these home remedies to try and bring the baby along.

I have no pressure, but you really got to have this baby, you know, and anyway, I'm like the Wednesday she gave birth.

I jump on the plane. I fly out. I want some ice and get the win.

Everything's going to work out. It's all going to be perfect.

You remind me of the team from 300 when the wife is like, you know, go out there and come back with your shield or come back on it.

I could just imagine you guys having this conversation like go.

Just go give it everything.

I mean, it's in what like on one side is really romantic, big story, everything.

But you know, fight is a fight.

Yeah, of course these emotions, these stories behind when you when they close the cage, everything is behind.

So so no, no, I just I just I just want to do what I was born for.

So let me ask you about Alex Pereira moving up to heavy weight and fighting Cyril gone.

What are you? What's your opinion on that?

I think it's for him great opportunity to to show how really good he is.

And I can say anything like I wish him the best, all the best, really all the best.

But I believe that I will.

I will meet him in the cage all again.

Yeah.

I love that.

Hell yeah.

We won't take up too much more of your time here because I know you're a busy man.

You're training for a fight. You've got a family on the way and the clothing line, the store.

Is that still going?

What?

Did you have a clothing store or?

Sure, sure.

Yeah, that's still going well.

Yeah, that's that's that's the next next thing.

Girl, the business, the foundation, all the things around like.

I'm happy and I can say just I'm happy.

That I have a good team around me.

Good people around me today.

They just we are.

We are connected really connected and everything right now is about a good combination.

Because we are we stepped.

In US US market with with with with my brand with BJP store dot com.

And it's it's there is a lot of big things this year and I'm.

I'm just quiet.

Yeah.

And keep working.

That's all what I can say that's that's it.

That's the final question and then we'll let you go.

And as always, you're a love talking to you.

Honestly, true.

Me and Paul and thank you for your time.

And we wish you the best of luck of course.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

This is a crazy story with you with with your lady and your child upcoming.

I don't expect to share it if it's a secret.

But have you got a name picked out for that for for your little girl.

And does it relate into somewhat the story that's happening?

Is it like the check word for gold or belt or legacy or something?

Like, you know, it is.

Have you chosen something?

We spoke about like.

We spoke about like right now about like three names.

We.

Renames we we have we have in.

We have to think about right now because.

One guy.

Oh, one guy one.

One guy just told me.

One guy just told me today.

When you see when you look to the eyes of the baby, you will know the name.

You will know the name.

And I said myself and this is strong.

This is really strong.

So we have something like three names.

And it's.

And I remember the third one.

But that's the first is Victoria as a victory.

Oh, second name is Eleonora because the the meaning of Eleonora is really,

really beautiful and.

Like.

God is my light.

Is my light in a in translating like in the meaning of the Eleonora and the third one.

I have man.

I don't know what I think Valentina Valentina Valentina something like that.

Okay.

But I just looked it up on Google.

As you were talking Eleonora is a feminine name of Greek and Hebrew origin are generally

interpreted to be light shining light or God is my light.

There you go.

God is my light.

Yeah.

God is my light.

And your light keeps going on and off.

So at that point, we'll let you go.

You always bring light to the podcast near it.

You bring light wherever you go, my brother.

All the best in Miami.

May the best man win.

Of course, man.

I wish you both get out of there safe and sound put on an amazing fight.

And congratulations on the arrival of your little girl.

Thank you.

Hope it goes smoothly.

Enjoy, sir.

Thank you.

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I can love that guy.

It doesn't disappoint.

Never.

Never.

I can't say it, but I'm going to say it anyway with all that.

Yeah, how do you not want him to pull that off?

How do you not want him to win that fight?

I said knowing that he should bring that belt back home the next day

and then have his baby girl born right then and there.

That would be an incredible story.

Yeah, as I said, UFC 1114, Rebecca was pregnant with Lucas on my back.

Come on, we got to do something here.

And she's like, what do you want me to do?

The whole team is gone.

Rebecca, come here real quick.

It's concerned you.

Real quick, real quick.

You know, we're bigger on the part of it now.

Yuri Prashka was just on, right?

Yuri Prashka was just on.

He's got a fight on the 11th of April.

He's why for a lady is due to give birth on the 13th of April.

I was talking about the situation that we have with Lucas.

Yeah, but that's worse because chances are I have that baby.

You know what I mean?

Like, I was due before.

Yeah, you were late.

A little.

You were late.

Stressful enough to be.

Of course, it's my fault.

It makes it sound like it's my fault.

You're holding them in.

No, what are we doing?

Everything about you so slow.

Just get a move on.

Squeeze it out.

Go take a dump.

That is absolutely.

Yeah, it's he's he's going to be stressing because although.

Can he not just say I can't do that because he's a warrior.

Is it his first child as well?

Yeah.

No, no, no, he's not being.

And don't they say with.

The first one, it's usually.

It usually is later, right?

It does.

Like, it's a more often at the due date or a little past.

Well, that's a lot of time.

Yes, they do say that.

However, Lucas account of nine weeks early.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You never know.

That's that's the thing with babies.

You don't know.

Stella, our last one was early.

She was early.

Yeah.

And like sometimes, you know, they have to.

We have to be in juice because like preeclampsia stuff like that.

That's what happened.

That's what happened.

She was showing signs of preeclampsia.

Right.

Yeah.

So.

We're dangerous.

I got quite through all the procedure talk because I don't know.

Because he is so emotionally like immature when it comes to anything like pregnancy.

There's going to be another segment.

How the period related and each of the women's health, he just finds repulsive.

Get in the gym and look.

You don't know that.

Because he always complains about, well, does it complain, but she says like giving birth

is the most painful thing that anyone could ever experience.

And I'm sure that it is.

It is my flippant, jokey response.

I always say, it's literally what you would design to do.

Is the most natural thing on the planet and it drives her crazy.

Yeah, because that was the whole like, okay, I'm going to, I'm putting you on blast here.

All my pregnancies, like every time I complained about something or it's like, oh, you know,

this is a bit hard or whatever.

Oh, it's the most natural thing in the world.

I had like no sympathy.

That's a lie.

You wouldn't even feel the baby move inside of my belly because it repulsed him so much.

And he used to go, this is, I'm not joking.

He's going, oh, this isn't a comfortable position for my hand because he has to do this.

So that's why he never felt this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

My shoulders are inflexible enough.

You know what I mean?

It's not well.

The belly.

Well, in hindsight, that would have been a good idea.

Oh my gosh.

But like the baby, okay.

He was always kicking, do you want to feel?

So I would like, yeah, do some acrobatics, right?

And then it would be that for 10, 15 minutes.

And there's no kicking.

I don't know.

I don't know.

That does happen.

That does happen.

Yeah.

You've got to read.

My arms really uncomfortable.

I'm sorry.

I got to pull it back.

I got to live my life.

Walking around like Quasimodo.

Oh my god.

See?

I bet you weren't like this with your wife for you.

I bet you like.

You kind of.

Like a, you know, like she wrapped her in cotton wool, protected her.

Tell the truth.

Let Paul speak.

Yeah.

No, I mean, I'm.

I'm.

I'm.

A big dominant as well.

Mostly.

She would come down here.

She'd have.

She'd have stories for you.

I'm not going to.

I think I'm pretty.

Perfect.

But.

Yeah.

Would she.

Would she be down to jumping on it?

Let's not you.

Get out of here.

Come on.

Yeah, we'll have to get her on for.

Yeah.

We've got to.

We've got to hear some first-hand stories.

Yeah.

She'll.

She'll out me.

She'll out me real quick.

Yeah.

She's got you on here thinking that he's this nice guy doing all

that.

She'll have stories.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I'm sure.

How into jump on and Brian.

Should we get this back on track?

What were we talking about?

Where were we?

Yeary was amazing.

Of course, but we were.

Where were we?

We were.

We were.

We were.

We were.

We were.

We were talking about White House too.

They still.

Oh, yeah.

That's right.

You were.

So let's talk about.

Thank you very much.

And then how have you guys been, by the way, before we move on?

Doing great.

We just said, you're.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I keep picturing like could you know that that classic like the,

the dad, like getting the first contact with the baby?

Picture him, like, baby in one hand belt on the other shoulder.

That's got to be the most baller picture that you could ever

take as a man.

Just out.

And if he's still all like.

And stuff in the fight.

The baby on one side belt on the.

Oh, bro.

Talk about.

You're like a man.

Imagine.

This is a, you know, it's a wild scenario, but it's very possible.

He's about to make the walk.

And this is a movie.

Um, he gets a text, a call.

Yeah.

The baby.

You asked for it.

You ladies going into labor.

And he's like.

He tells Daniel and Hunter.

He goes out.

Get the job done.

Get the knock.

No, it's an absolute back and forth war.

But he gets the job done.

But he gets the win.

He's black and blue.

He's bruised.

The jet's waiting.

Because they will do that.

Right.

He jumps on the jet.

Fly straight from there.

Runs into the hospital.

Makes it just in time.

He sees it.

He's got the belt.

Holds the baby.

Blood still seeping.

Still got bustling on the hand.

I got for that.

Let's go for this.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

He got it.

I got it.

I got it.

That's a movie right there.

And you know he's bringing her into

Oh he's sprinting

Like the T1 1000.

Yuri don't jog.

No, he doesn't.

Everything's a million miles

A hundred miles.

I thought it was going to be Jones and Cyril, it's not okay. I still think it's a tremendous

fight. I think in some ways it's a better fight. We said this on the post fight show. I said

it on your YouTube video and people were like, oh, yeah, you would say that company man. No,

listen, Jones, it would be a spectacle and it would be great to see Pereira versus Jones,

of course it would. But in terms of you don't, you all just shit and everyone's been shitting on

Charles Olivera taking down Max Holloway. Do you not think John Jones would take down

Alex Pereira? Of course, that would be the strategy. I'm not saying Pereira can't stop a

take down, but that's what he's going to try and do because on the free Pereira could very well

knock him out. Well, Cyril Garnan, Alex Pereira, they're going to put on one hell of a display.

Yeah, no, I think you're right with that. That it's definitely going to be a much more competitive,

much more exciting affair. Whereas even if Pereira had success against John Jones, you're right,

a lot of that time would be spent at some point defending some sort of take down or not defending

the takedowns and getting taken down, waiting for his opportunity in the next round to be able to

strike. This is going to be a big boys kickboxing in there. We saw how good Cyril Garnan looked when

he was fighting Tom Aspen all before the iPokes. He was landing good shots. He's athletic. He can

move. These are two heavyweights that can move and can strike. It's going to be, it's going to be a

banging ass fight. And then, you know, Ilya Toporia and Justin's going to be a banging ass fight

as long as it lasts. So again, the more we criticize this and the more people criticize,

you look at this, it's going to be a really fun card. So these are the current odds right now.

Ilya Toporia is a minus 600 favorite over just engaging. He was plus 425. I get it. I get it.

Listen, Parry was able to connect with Justin, Justin's the man. He was great on the desk on Saturday.

Incredible body of work. He took some shots in that fight. Ilya Toporia connects.

He's got the power. So minus 600, I get it. This one's surprising. Cyril Garnan minus 160. It's

only a slight underdog, sorry, favorite, but still a favorite. Alex Pereira plus 140. What do

you thoughts on that? Yeah, I think that's kind of accurate. And I think that's a lot of it is

we're basing the fact that he's moving up to heavyweight Pereira. He really started off as a

middleweight. Now, granted, he's a much bigger man now. And I don't think there's any world in

which he could go back down to 185 pounds. But still, that's, you're going from I was able to

make middleweight to now I'm fighting at heavyweight where these men are huge. And again,

Cyril Garnan is used to the threat of nasty power coming his way in every fight he's ever had.

That's a great point. You know, we have weight classes for a reason. There's also a reason

why no one's become a three weight division champion. He could be 185 by almost killing himself.

Now he's going up to heavy where it's not, I mean, naturally, he walks around as a heavyweight,

but he's not naturally a heavyweight fighter. So what will happen? He'll be heavier, which will

slow you down a bit. He will have, I think, extra power. I still think he can take the shots.

I think he's still got the power to knock out heavyweights. But Cyril Garnan in his DNA is a gigantic,

bona fide, legit heavyweight that just so happens to be very, very light on the feet,

incredibly fast to move around, you know, all over the place shaking and baking, jiggling and

jiving, moving and grooving, whatever else you want to say, right? I think that's a big advantage

in this fight here. Yeah, and that's the thing. He kicks so well too. He's not just a guy that's

going to be some lumbering heavyweight. I think there's a lot of heavyweights on the roster,

that Pereira would hands down easily, just go out there and KO to death. No problem. This one

is a challenge. And I think that's what entices him, whether it was going to be Jones or whether

it's going to be Cyril Garnan, you're going for that third belt. If he gets it, you are a legit

and where do we go from here? If he wins that frigging belt at that White House event, does he go

down as possibly the, I mean, nobody has ever done that in UFC history. He's the greatest.

Harajan. I'm hopping on to let you know that the market has already made their case and Alex

Pereira is now a slight favorite against Cyril Garnan. Yeah, it's a yes minus, he's minus 120,

gone minus 115. Well, you know why? Because a bunch of bets have come in already on Alex

Pereira because he's very popular. And of course, the man's incredible. I can't wait to see that

fight. I'm with you on that that I think maybe star power was bigger with Jones. But if we're

talking, watching and entertaining and competitiveness of a fight, this is the fight.

I've got to say, I was very impressed by Tom Aspinol's kind of response. It was non-emotional.

And he was not the winner. Yeah, I like that a lot. Yeah, I liked what Tom said there,

you know, and this is in me kissing Tom's ass. It's like, no, because no, we've been pretty,

we've been pretty open about all of this stuff and how, you know, this, this hasn't looked great

for him and it's been a rough road for him, but you're right. The fact that he has come out and

said that, I like it would have been very easy. It would have been because he was sitting there and

he was getting filmed for his YouTube channel. And he would have been very easy to say,

this is ridiculous. Look at the guy pokes me in the eye and now he gets rewarded with an

interim title shot at the White House. This is the crazy thing about this sport and there'll be

a lot of fans that kind of have that opinion. Tom understood the situation and was like,

the heavyweight division is on his ass right now. Jones is retired. He can't still currently fight.

The two best guys are well gone. Pereira was coming up. That's a mega fight that sells

itself and he was like, you know what? I'll just get to fight the winner. I thought that was a very

mature response. And not to mention you're right with the heavyweight division kind of being on

the skirts, not having really looked the best as of late. This fight is, this fight looks great

and you as the champion coming out and saying, all right, cool. I get winners. Only is going

to escalate you because this is going to be massive. The winner of this fight is going to be

fighting in the White House. It's going to be massive eyeballs on this. You get to then come in

and be the guy. They're challenging for the undisputed belt and you get all of that fandom,

all of that attention to come right with you. So I think he's kind of recognizing, all right.

This kind of sucks to be in the situation and dealing with all the bullshit that I've had to

deal with. But ultimately, I'm still here. The belt has not been stripped from him. The UFC is,

you know, Eddie Herne and all this, all this noise outside. But at the end of the day, it looks

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Pardon the pun, of course. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. Pardon. Look at his eyes on the belt.

Yeah. Yeah. That's a good thumbnail for a video. Yeah. You know, I used to have all of that shit.

You know, this means God is eye on this. So yeah. Any of the thoughts, final takeaways,

Harrington and Brown jump on thoughts, final takeaways on the White House card. We've said a lot there.

So it would, it would have been great, as I say, if there was like some crazy surprise,

like when Brock Lesnar came back at UFC 200. But I can't really think, obviously, Engano,

but I said, you know, I mean, they ain't going to do business with Engano again. The rock or

something wild would have been crazy. But I can't think of anyone. There's, I know that they were

in guys. Did you hear this too? This is for Brian Harrington that there was rumors that there was

room potentially for a seventh fight if they wanted to. I heard that just random chatter on Twitter,

I believe. I wonder if something will come of it. The only one that popped me for a little bit.

And this is clearly me just being a mark, but was when GSP tweeted out, you know, like,

it's nice to be home again or whatever. I was like, honestly, Islam first GSP right now take

my money. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I heard that rumor. I know by a, that would have, that would have

been like, oh, my God, right? And then personally, I'm like, George, you better win that fight.

I can't have some little form of lightweight Russian dominating old Georgie boy.

I'm watering down my career even further. I think the hate on the card is a little unwarranted.

It happens a lot where people aren't excited for cards until they happen to them. They happen

and they're amazing. So it's just everybody can't the fuck down until the fight happens.

Complain on Monday. You're still going to watch. You're still going to watch.

Couple of big takeaway. And you will have heard the same similar things that I will not repeat.

And it's not like secrets or anything like that. But obviously, we work for the UFC.

Some of the things that they've got in store for what happens throughout the fight week and stuff like

that. They got some big, big, big, yeah. Part of me. They announced one that the the press

is going to take place at the Lincoln Memorial, which is pretty good. Yeah. No, but then they've

got some cool stuff, man, that they're doing that, which is just like production stuff that's just

going to be insane. Obviously, I'm not going to say anything. But yeah, but we'd love to

shit on it. The shit on the sphere turned that to be incredible. The shit on UFC 300 initially,

want to find out that where where nine that was. A lot of these apex cars, people,

shit on it. You know what I mean? And granted, there was a couple of surprises on here. But top

to bottom is still a really, really good card. Michael Chandler. I mean, he got on. He got on.

I didn't expect that. I didn't either. I thought it was not Connor. We're not getting Chandler on

the card. And when I saw it, I'm like, well, you kind of got a Connor like moving fighter out there.

Hey, hey, you know, I mean, God bless him. God bless him. You know, and do you know what,

to be fair, he's always exciting. Even when he's getting his ass kicked off Paddy Pemblert,

that was exciting. 100%. Yeah. He's going for the dive. You know,

knocking out and then so being Dan Hocker, you know what I mean? He looked and he hasn't been

winning, but even in the fires that he's lost. And the more I think about when we talk about the

guys who have fought Charles, like we were just talking about Chandler, we were talking about

poor EA fighting. It's, it's still keep springing me back to how strong that performance was

of Charles. People have given him a lot harder time than Max was even able to do it all. Max is

good, man. And I can't. Charles is winning. Yeah. I've just decided from that one,

whilst we're doing this, Hamilton, we're going to have a live segment where, I mean, you can,

you can dip off camera or whatever, but you should just like get the latest rumblings and grumblings

on MMA Twitter, because there's always strong shit going on. If you see anything good on there,

do you have no, so we can respond to it. I just wanted to get this one other point out, Kyle

Dawkes, one year to the day was fighting on CFFC trying to get himself back into the promotion.

One year and two finishes inside the UFC later, he's going to be fighting the White House on.

And that's not a rocky story. I don't know what he is, man. When I told that name, I was like,

oh, holy shit, it's Kyle got on the White House card. I was like, you got to be kidding me, man.

I was also a little shot. All right, we got fights this weekend. Josh Emmett versus Kevin