90 Day RHOC Fiancé (RHOC)

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3:13How was your favorite? No, I thought that last the last episode was really good. I like the banter between the girls when they were like shit talking. Oh, yeah, you know, just. That's. That's why I played a lot of the song with the song, you know, the song I was playing is a song that I was playing with the song. I was playing with the song, Grya. Like, I thought that was funny because I've done that with my friends too, talking about somebody right in front of their face. Yeah. So he's going to be upset when he sees it. He's for sure. Well, he's already seen it. Italian Catholic girl like I you know I still don't talk about that stuff in front of anyone right I talk about other people doing it really badly too. Yeah well we'll get we'll get into it but it starts off where Emily, Tamara and Gina grab lunch while Heather Carmella and Jen shop for sunglasses. All I

4:15could think of running out of things to do to shop for sunglasses. I was thinking Heather had to drive all the way to Osseh I mean take a car all the way to Osseh to shop for sunglasses. It wasn't even it was like Ray Bans and it wasn't even the dog was cute. The dog was cute. You know her mind she's like I just drove this is she had to take a shower when she got home. Yeah she couldn't they didn't even go to the sunglasses. I know where they went. It was like a cake asked somewhere and she was like they're probably like boot like Ray Bans and you know her she's like what? Well because then I was trying to differentiate if the ones that she tried on were the ones she wore at the picnic this week. You fucker you never let that shit go you'll check for the purse you know I mean the purse I'm Chomae. You'll check for the bag you'll check for that shit. Yeah you are you really dissect this don't you? Well I don't think and I don't think she

5:16wore them later on just saying I think she threw them in the garbage on her way out. But I liked them they were like kind of the kind of like yours like where they're the clear all over. Heather's not wearing them. Are those looked up look optic? They're look optic you love look optic. I love look optic. They're the only like they're cool they're like cool yeah yeah but anyways at this lunch we learn that Tamra sex drive is low which we knew this and she may need to testosterone. Yeah but I think this is the most real she's been on the show about it. Really? She hasn't talked about this before. I feel like she on the show she hasn't like on the on the on the pod she hasn't talked about like on the pod she hasn't no like when she cried in this episode I got choked up. Like you didn't know? No. No. All this was going on. She never told you about the fight with Eddie on the way home from Big Bad. She told me a little bit about it but not

6:16she didn't use the D word. That's Rob. And yeah. By the way he is a good guy and I think that they compliment each other in a relationship. No relationship is good all the time. Things get stale and especially at our age we lose that drive right not your age. Not definitely me and Tamra's age but you know what I and I know this is not Eddie is not the culprit of this because he tells her all the time he's she's beautiful and he loves her and he's very doding but everyone that's listening needs to tell your partner and for women and I bet for like there's a component of this for men too. The biggest sex organ on a woman is their brain. Okay. Tell me I'm pretty. I don't care. Actually what you look like. Okay. You could be out of shape. You could be like a mass. If you touch if you're gentle to me if you tell me I'm pretty if you compliment me to you like guys

7:22don't get it. Thank God men never figured that out with me because I would be a total disaster. Yeah. Well we'll get we'll get to that one we get to but that was definitely a little but I think this was it yeah Emily kind of opens up and says like well I had the same thing which is why I had to get the pellets but then this is where my brain can't function is because then they show the pellets and then they show like a doctor but they show an injection I'm like that's not the pellets. That's not the sound but but then she says like it makes her thing tingle. Yeah. My test also around doesn't make a don't tingle. Well she's a little bit younger than you're not to point out the obvious. I forget that. Slurry. Come on thanks. Well no I mean listen it's all up here honestly. That helps a lot. And I think also when you're filming the show and you're all scattered around it's very hard to like be in the moment. Absolutely. And like turn your brain off. Yeah like we'll get

8:27to all that but there's so many things and she's right about like we'll get there. We'll get yeah. Well then Gina finds out that Heather is using Carmella to find her daughter place which is weird since Heather told everybody how trashy Carmella was. Well it's more weird to me. It's not weird that she told people that Carmella was trashy because we all we know why she said it. Yeah. Carmella's got the black hair like Pocahontas. She's got the big red lips. I keep thinking she's Rachel Fuda from New Jersey. That's why I always think she's from New Jersey. You know and I like Carmella but I could see like Heather could be like a little snappy sometime. Sorry. Well I think this is this I'm wondering who brought it out of because they keep saying Emily keeps saying she said it off camera. She said it off camera in Vegas. Gina no was it Emily? No Emily said that Heather was saying it off camera to who? That's what I

9:31want to know. I want to know who's the rat. Who's the who's who was she saying it to because all of the they said Gina Gina said all of them. She said she said it to all of them. No so honestly Teddy this is such a point of contention with me when somebody repeats what I say when they should have not so can you find out who did that you do you sure? I know. I'm gonna find out. I'm gonna find out. Yeah I can I I'll find this out but I mean I need to know who was it that actually took the information to the group because that is a big no because I'm not gonna trust them now. That's a big next step and all of all of them news. So what I'm guessing is Carmella didn't go out with the girls afterwards. The rest of the girls went out. That's where Heather got a little tipsy and said that Carmella is trashy. Yeah or that she thinks Carmella is trashy and then the other girls are using that on the show even though she never said exactly and that's like a little rough

10:31I think but but the biggest thing for me is knowing that Gina works very hard for her money yeah and she works very hard at being a realtor. The fact that they've been friends for so long and and Gina makes this point very clear she's like why would you go to another realtor because even if she went to Gina and Gina referred her to somebody Gina still makes money. You know what I'm saying Gina could have even referred her to Carmella. Yeah and she got what got in a piece of it. I got a referral fee. Well I think I mean one I never watched the show and think wow Gina and Heather are so close. Never wanted to buy that. No but they've been on a show for a very long time yeah you would think they have that because as Gina says you know she's like this puts me in a bad situation this puts me in a bad light like why wouldn't Heather have chosen me but I don't think it was like on spite to be honest. I don't think it was on spite. I think she once

11:34Heather went to Carmella's house. She got the vibe and she I think she looked at her differently. Oh but even though even though she the way we played out was that we saw her asking about the apartment before she went to the house I think. So you think she went to the house first. I don't know. I mean I could have been made. I mean you couldn't you could be it doesn't mean that she saw the house. She could have got a better vibe from her getting to know her and been like because when you meet somebody you know whether or not they really have the money they're talking about they have. Yeah and Heather would know. Yeah I think she was assessing up the situation. But I mean well definitely she wanted to be close to her. I think she just was like that's her area. I think that's what she thought about. That's what I was just going to say maybe she just thought that's her area. Gina I get I think she's like half wrong. Yeah like I get what Gina saying but

12:36I also don't know that if I was going to buy a house in Colorado right now that I would ask my realtor from here. That's what I'm saying. Like I don't know and I love like I love fair to think against Gina. Yeah I don't think it's against Gina either but I think that I can see how Gina's taken it personally. I can see both sides and I can also see that this just isn't Heather's season. No. That call was really pivotal for me. Hey it's Emily Tish Sussman and this season on She Pivots the podcast where women share bold career moves and personal turning points that changed everything. I sit down with culture shifting women who share their pivots like Para Olympian Alley Truit. I was like I'm on out from a shark attack. There's no way in 11 months I'm making the advocate Elizabeth Smart. I still feel that dry that I can still make a difference so I'm gonna keep going. Celebrity chef Carla Hall was that scary to walk away from such a stable career

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17:53You And then they discuss how Vicki may have toned things down since dating Mike with Tamari. Really? Making a theory that maybe he proposed and then took the ring back. I'm like, where did you find this theory? I had not heard it but this is what Tamra said on the show. She said it's a theory. Yeah, I did not say that. I did not bring it. Oh, you're just making sure that Vicki knows you had nothing to do with it. Just so Vicki knows I had nothing to do with it. This was said on the television show. These are friends that just make sure. Listen guys.

18:54I have nothing to do with what my best friend did. I am not going down for her. But I am willing to repeat it so that I make sure that our listeners didn't miss it. Just wanted to be clear. That is. Do you not see the same thing? Who needs? Oh my goodness. Oh, too much. Like as Tamra was doing that, I was like, Tamra has punched her time card this episode. Like she's like checking in for duty. She was, listen, you didn't think what did we say last week? We were we were waiting for her to get back to her. Self and she's creeping in now. She's slowly keeping. I know. She doesn't have a backpack. She's creeping in. But I loved it. So we get that little like four, you know, what is it called? Like a four four shot. We get that little four shadowing. And then we're back at the sunglasses.

19:54What is that? Oh, God. And they just didn't even want to see it. Yeah, they didn't want to see it. They discuss how annoyed Emily gets by Heather who doesn't believe that the women tiptoe around her. Well, I mean, she's just like, I'm overcarrying because everyone's shitting on me basically. So like I just don't care right now. But then she's like, I do give a lot of shits. I do care. Well, she contradicted herself. Yeah, she thinks she gives a lot of shits. I'm not sure. Yeah, I think she does. You do. I think she's like, I do too, but like, I think she really takes things personally. More than you. Yeah, more than me. Oh, that's really because like, I'm like a sloppy perfectionist. She's an actual perfectionist. And I'm not one in all. You're not a type of a or B. I'm not D for Jolo. I am telling you, I know you couldn't tell. I'm not a perfectionist, but I'm just going to let you in on a little fun fact about myself.

20:58But Carmella said she wasn't bothered by Vicki leaving the party early. But then Heather's kind of suggesting that she should be bothered. She's like, well, then you can put yourself in a box. Like clearly you're being put in a box because she doesn't want to take the time to be with you. Oh, okay. And Heather, you wonder why people don't like you this season. Because this has been a buildup of things like giving your opinion. You can give your opinion. You can have your opinion, but there's times when you don't need to give it. And this was one of the times. If Carmella outright said, I really didn't care. She stayed long enough. Like she ate her hot dog with mustard. And she had a leap for another party. Like it, like I said, I wasn't offended by it. But I think this is, I think this is a total different reason why Heather's upset than what we're seeing on the show. Okay. What's that? I think what we're seeing on the show is Heather's upset because, you know, Vicki then want to spend time with them.

21:58I think Heather's upset because they're all there to do a job. Okay. Well, that's what. Walking out early. That's why it's not your, it's not your job to be upset about its production's job. I know, but this is also what we saw. If you did you watch Ultimate Girls Trip so far? No. Oh, so that's Vicki's getting a lot of it from those girls as well because, like, they'll be in the sprinter van and she's on her iPad. Like won't talk to any of them. And you can see that they're getting fresh. And they break the fourth wall more on that show. You can tell that they're getting frustrated that they're all having to work. And she's not working. Well, she may be working on her insurance, but she's not. Well, this was the powers that be to bring her back. And it's up to the powers to be to straighten it out or not. That's actually a good point. It's not, it's not the cast job to what, what, what are you about her doing her job? Yeah. And if you're depending on her to make the show,

23:00then I guess they did do the right job by bringing her back. Yeah, because it's working. It's working. So there you go. Yeah. So that, I mean, you made a good point. I hate to stray one of them wrong, but I think I might be wrong here. I'm not trying to be wrong. I'm not trying to. Or true. I think you might be right on this one. For anyone listening, just tuning in, we're making fun of Karmela's boyfriend, because he doesn't open his mouth when he told him. And Kisha wondered. Kisha, and Kisha, anyone wondered. But still, we just have to relive this moment one more time of Heather's, when Heather and Jen are in like prom dresses and Karmela walks in with like a t-shirt folded at the top, like with the tie. Yeah. And then Heather sees the name Ray Bans. She's like, I think he's wronged. Heather wanted to leave.

24:01She wanted a polavikki. She's like, I'm out now. This is above my pay grade. I'm out of the store. Well, even when they put the dog on the counter, I was like, don't put the dog on the counter. But the dog, let me pass the doctor if she wants to hold it. But don't put the dog on the counter. I'm have PTSD about dogs on the counter. You know why they did one fall. Oh my gosh, one time I, my dog, Kaleesi, that was the best dog ever. Like my kids and I were obsessed. She, we went out of town to belt, like we went out of town for Bella's birthday. And we had asked around a lot of like the other people that were on the shows and stuff. Like what's the best place to take her? You don't even tell me because I'll die right now. No, I'm de laurice. I don't know if I could listen to the rest of this story. Yeah. She was a toy palm. She was this big. She was the sweetest thing ever. I take her to the, what are those places called? Where are you boarding? Boarding, a boarding place. But I mean, this was a high end one. Like beyond.

25:01Like there's like, it's ridiculous. So looks good, but they still hire the same people. They don't get the people they hire. Go ahead. So we don't even get to Bella's actual party. And I get a phone call from the owner, hysterically crying. And she's like, I can't breathe. Yeah. Well, first she's changed the story. First she said she dropped her. And then she said that she fell off the counter. And then I said, I see that you have cameras in there because I'm allowed to look and see how all the other dogs are doing. So I want to pull the footage and see what actually, because she was having like, we were already hours away. And she's in the hospital now, the dogs in the hospital having emergency surgery. Like it's, it's bad. Like the fact that I'm not going to crying about it right now just shows like how sick I am. But like that was, then we tried to pull the security footage. She said the security footage was down. She ended up just paying me some money,

26:02like to buy another dog if I wanted to. But it was, it was really, really sad. Like the, there's a whole thing on Instagram about a boarding place that killed a dog. Yeah. And then like imagine having to wake up. So I found out that afternoon, that night that it happened. Like and they were like, she, I was like, do we drive home right now? And she's like, the, that's like, they're not, she's not going to make it. And so then I had to decide, am I going to tell the kids before after belly's birthday party? Oh, that's a long party. It's a long party. And then we were staying at like a hotel and dead at that. So like I had to wait. So I just honestly kept like crying to myself until the next day when I told them and then it was just heartbreaking. We all came back and then of course we did our ashes and everything. But like. So whenever I see dogs on the counter, I have a severe like PTSD about it. Yeah. Okay, I can understand that. I had one of those situations, Chip, but we're not going to make this a doom and gloom thing.

27:03But um, yeah, being away on vacation and stuff, things happen. And you have to tell your kids and you're just looking at them saying, tomorrow I'm going to break and eviscerate their fucking hearts. Yeah, like I'm going to rip their hearts out while yours is already ripped out on the floor. And you're trying your hardest to be strong and pretend that you're fine. But yeah, I'll, I'll stop it there. But it was, it was bad. That was back during the times when I was still filming. It was, it was bad. Um, then we get, being a bad, then we get to the Vicki and Michael dinner. Oh, what do we, I want your opinion. I want your opinion. Well, first Michael wants Vicki to step away from work so they can travel. Um, when she brings up their life plan, he gets. They don't settle enough to Mexico. Apparently not. He said she's been saying it for three years, Dolores. You know, the guys that want you to stop working to spend more time with them. Write the check, bro. I want to be like, dude, if you want me to stop working, you're going to need more than that Casita and Palm Springs.

28:07Exactly. Like you're staying in her place in Mexico, right? Yeah. Want me to go to Mexico. I'm, um, I feel bad for Vicki. You know, I don't want to judge Mike right now because I just don't, because some guys get real nasty about the show. And I think that, I think that's what's happening. You can see he doesn't want to talk about the relationship on the show. He doesn't want her talking about sex on the show. He doesn't want her signing up to do more podcast more shows. Whatever she's made it clear. However, you met this woman. Knowing that was her life. You know what? I am going to judge him. I am. Fuck that. I am. He's not nice. That I'm sorry. She's settling just to have a warm body. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like it, here's the thing, even if she wasn't on the show when they got, got together, like maybe that was during one of the times that she got the boot. I don't know. I don't know the timeline. I know they could have met her when she wasn't on the show when she wasn't back in this

29:09because they were together at BravoCon before she was asked to come back. Hold the orange that she walked around with for three days. Yeah. Like it was an infant. And while it's like, she brought it to breakfast. She sat with it. I was orange was just sitting there all times. Like, caught it away. I wanted to steal it. But then also, I want to say like, I'm sorry. If your husband doesn't want anything to do with your work and your show, don't come to fucking BravoCon. Don't go to BravoCon. Like I gotta say, you didn't know what it was. She put, I, I, the Laura's. No, I'm, I'm saying maybe he didn't know. But if this is what I'm going to say, it doesn't fucking matter. Teddy, it doesn't matter because there's excuse after excuse after excuse. And I've been around this before. And I can tell you that it's a few different things.

30:11It's insecurity. It is somebody in his life telling him it's shit. It's garbage. It's low class because what the fuck does he really know about it? Does he have family or I think he has kids that are like adult age. Okay. So is somebody in his ear about all the watching the show and telling him what happened? Yeah. Fustrated people that wish they could be on the show. Is somebody telling him that this is really bad? Because they should really tell him to be a lot nicer to Vicki because she's a damn good catch for him. She's successful. She loves him. She loves him. You know, what do you think you're getting? What do you think? Who are you treating this woman like this for? I mean, she's like, I'm the prize. And he like doesn't even like give her a hug or anything in that moment. And I was like, come on, dude. I felt bad. No, listen, I feel bad. We saw this with Angela Oakley.

31:12Her husband was very standoff and she's on camera. But I think he's much more supportive than Mike. Yeah. But I mean, I also get the feeling that Vicki is probably the breadwinner and he doesn't want that discussed on camera. Well, then go drive an Uber. Go do something. But I feel like it's hard to like about self-fill better. Yeah. I mean, because why else if she loves working, if she loves filming, if she loves doing the insurance stuff, if she loves that she got an ultimate girl's trip, if she loves that she got her Christian Grace Snow podcast, then be happy for her. Here's what I want to know what Christian Grace Snow feels about this, because he lives, eats and breathes Vicki. Yeah. So let's, I don't think he would like this. I don't like, I don't think Christian would like it if Vicki wasn't being treated nice. Well, I don't, I didn't even like that when he, when they were in the middle of a conversation,

32:13he goes, well, I still have my mic on. And then he gets up and she's like, where are you going? And he's like, she's like probably the bathroom. He's like, she made it funny. She's like, he's always in the bathroom. But like, Vicki, either also, who was like this with me? Oh, Dave. He, oh, I remember, and I didn't like it then either. He was like with the show because he had people in his ear, telling him the show was this, the show's blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. When it's really, it's just an excuse to not be nice. And I'm, I'm being honest, grown-ass man. He's retired. He's had his life. What does he care about what she's doing? You know, there's enough time for him after filming. So, so she's working. Oh, God, like killer for it. She's built her whole life. She's, you know, to build her business. We're going to knock her for that. And also, like if you don't want to be talked about on the show, I'm not saying this will stop you from being talked about,

33:13but don't go on it at all. Or be nice. Be nice. Be nice. Have a good day. Make believe you're nice in front of people. Try to make her look bad by being not nice to her. I mean, I think he's trying to be funny. I don't know. He was being funny. I don't think he's trying to be funny. I think he was trying to be like, um, cool about it, maybe. Yeah. I just kept thinking about 90 day fiance. What about it? Well, because they're saying that Vicki had to get to the 90 days. Oh, that's right. And then at 70, something that holds it. You woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Oh, yeah. Oh, sorry. You were on your computer after 801. Yeah. We were supposed to watch a movie. Listen to me. Take that ring and stick it on your fucking cock. Because I was getting so mad. Fuck you when you're ring. Yeah, like I don't want to Vicki.

34:14Go find there's a lot of widowers your age that would kill to be with you. Not the widowers. There's a lot of nice and tough things over here. Stop it. You're fucking asshole. No, but there's a lot of men that are very lonely, divorced, whatever it is that happened. Maybe never married. Maybe worked hard their whole life that would understand what you're doing. There's a lot of other people out there that would appreciate you and I'd like to see her have that. And I hope she doesn't get mad at me for being mad at Mike. Well, she is. But she also, I think, I mean, she's going to definitely get mad. She gets mad. And then she'll get over it. But you can't get mad because people want the best for you. Yeah, like we want people like you. I've been a big fan of Vicki since this all started. Yeah, I think so too. But then the women surprised Shannon for her birthday.

35:16Vicki says she's like, anyway, I'm sorry to interrupt. Okay, I'm on on her. I'm on her tear. How does Mike know if he's not interested in any of this? What is set on here? Who's telling him? Vicki's telling him. Vicki. Yes. That's why he feels it's not his fault then, Vicki. It's because of all the stuff you've told him. Yeah, she comes home and tells him everything that happened. That's why she said he doesn't want me to talk about sex anymore. Because earlier the season, she talked about sex. That wasn't how would he know unless she told him she's going home and regurgitating what happened on the day. And then he's getting mad about it. Well, I take everything back. It's not his fault then. Well, you think men tell you everything? No. But also, like, I wouldn't even have wasted my time. Like, you know there's how much, how many things you can tell Polly about the other women on camera. Listen, everything doesn't make it. Explain it when it comes out.

36:18Yeah. So I think that is also like a part of the situation. She's telling him and then he's telling him. And then he's seeing her upset. Yeah. Well, is he all wrong then? Don't be honest. I didn't know this. This is new information to me. So tell me, Teddy, is he all wrong? Well, I personally think if you're signed up to do a show, then you have to take like he's not only with somebody that's on a reality television show. He signed the paperwork. It's not like he's Michael Darby who can no longer be discussed allegedly. Bah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, no, he is on the show. So I guess he started off not hating it. He grew to hate it because of the way Vicki probably. But then, you know, sometimes when, you know, GirlTalk's GirlTalk, and then when you go tell your guy and then he holds it against you, it's your fault. Well, I mean, then they showed a flashback of Vicki looking at the guy's dick

37:20at the Grand Canyon on purpose. Why did they do that? Because they're trying to show that like Vicki is, I think they're trying to show that there's holes in this relationship. I don't think there is. I think that this is the first year Vicki's back since she's with him. He needs to get to know it and get over it because he wasn't, I met him, I brought him. I met him too. And he was nice. Yeah. I think what they also wanted to show is that Vicki acts differently in front of him or for him. Who does it? When you're in a really, like, you don't change yourself, but there's some things when you're in a relationship that, you know, you know, your partner wouldn't agree with. So you kind of don't want to be like that. I don't change my personality. You don't change your personality. I don't think her personality's changed. Well, I think she has ever. She's always loved to talk about sex and those types of things. Oh, she did. Yeah. So now she's all buttoned up. And I'm like,

38:24you know, that was the girl that didn't do that when they're with a guy. It doesn't like that. Yeah. I get it. They all did. All right. Well, anyways, then the women surprised Shannon for her birthday. This was a cute scene, I thought. This was cute. Very cute. The camaraderie was real and sincere. And you could tell that Shannon was actually like emotional about this. She's like, I'm always the one that does the surprises. It's true. And she was definitely, it was like a heartfelt gesture from everyone. But then see, we have two different things you can look at. You look at the one who's lonely, but peaceful. She's not, she doesn't have a guy being mad about what she's doing. She could come and go, is she pleased? Is she's got her dog, but she's miserable. Then you have Vicki, who's getting going through all that because she's with some, but you know what I mean? You see what I'm saying? It's not good, regard like we all are going through it in some way. It's just like they're trying to have their own thing. But Shannon made me laugh when

39:25I forgot. Maybe Jen walked in and she's like, you like it cold in your house, don't you? And she's like, no, my dogs do like it cold. But then Vicki said to say you like it cold. Yeah. How does she know the dogs like it cold? Well, they were petitioning on see the panting at the beginning. I was like, I can't with this freaking these editors knowing they're going to say the dogs want to be cold after they're panting because they probably just got back from a walk. Exactly. But then the women, then Vicki says she, Shannon and Tamar slowly rebuilding their friendship. Did like we expect this was going to happen? Yes. Yes. Okay. What's going on in my show? It was World War 3. It's like they should get the Nobel Peace Prize over here. Yeah. So I would that's what's the whole point of the show is conflict and resolution. Correct. And I did think that they were they've come back from worse things that I've seen. You know what I mean? Like this is years of going back and forth.

40:26But Shannon seems very timid to me. She seems timid to me too. I think she I think she is going through it. Like she seems like she's a little sad. Yeah. She seems yeah. She seems really sad. And she seems fragile. She says yes. She seems very fragile. Yeah. To me, that's what I noticed. But that's that off Shannon. That'll get you real quick. Yeah. Because also she's saying she's nervous about the one-on-one lunch with Tamar. Like give me a break. You've been friends and often on with Tamar forever now. All of a sudden you're scared of her. Shannon, I am tough love. I am not going to tolerate you being a baby about this stuff. Shake it off and you know, head up shoulders back and be tough. Yeah. And go for it. That call was really pivotal for me. Hey, it's Emily Tish Sussman and this season on She Pivots,

41:29the podcast where women share bold career moves and personal turning points that changed everything. I sit down with culture-shifting women who share their pivots like Para Olympian Alley Truett. I was like, I'm a month out from a shark attack. There's no way in 11 months I'm making the very long text. Advocate Elizabeth Smart. I still feel that drive that I can still make a difference. So I'm going to keep going. Celebrity chef Carla Hall was that scary to walk away from such a stable career after just two years. No, I was more afraid of being unhappy than I was broke and in a dead and job that I didn't enjoy. And feminist legend, Gloria Steinem. All of us were trying to express women's real lives. We need a meeting place of our own and if I can contribute to that, I'd like to maintain that and leave this house for that purpose. Listen to She Pivots on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

42:50Behind the experiences that shape your twenties from relationships and friendships to money, anxiety, confidence, attachment, just becoming more comfortable with who you are. Unlike the quarter life crisis which is depicted as the collapse, the quarter life reinvention is the expansion and growth of something. When we develop the ability to be happy by ourselves, nobody else can take that from you. So this self-care September, don't just take care of yourself, get to know yourself as well. Listen to the psychology of your twenties on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday. On our podcast, lots to say with me, Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. We also bring in friends, they're mostly match friends who are current or former NFL players, some of the biggest names in music and entertainment and then we have some really great conversations that can pretty much go anywhere. The great. Pac-Man Jones. After the game of the whole national task force for police officers was at the stadium. Like, hey buddy, yeah, you out of... come on. And one of my favorite segments we

43:56do is called situational awareness where Bobby and I give each other real life situations and figure out what we'd actually do. You're in training camp and the rookie quarterback has one good throwing session in front of the media. Suddenly everybody online says he should start over you week one. How do you handle this? You just go back out to practice the next day and wait for him to mess up. Listen to lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 30 years ago, an island off Manhattan almost brought down New York City. Who will you trust? Your friends and neighbors? Who will you trust the people five miles overseas? This is a story about neighbors turning on each other and what happens when a forgotten place decides it's had enough. We reached for a feeling that exists in this city but we're not stopping early. I'm Ben, that of Half-Rate and for my new series on revisionist history, I took a deep dive

45:01in the Staten Island's attempt to succeed from New York City in the 1990s and what it all has to do with the politics of resentment that dominate America today. Listen to revisionist history, the Staten Island problem on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? I'm Tony Gonzalez and I'm October Gonzalez, but you can call me Toby. We want you to join us on our new podcast No Say Forwards with October in Tony Gonzalez. We get real about marriage, parenthood, sex, divorce and all the nitty gritty stuff we all think about, but just don't say out loud. I hate that job. You're probably just going to meet some rich guy and he's going to whisk you away and I'll never see you again. Oh, this is all right. Would you say a dealist actor? D? I don't even know there's the such thing as D. No, no, no, I mean like I don't even get on the sea list like I'm not even average. I'm not even passing. I'm failing. Listen to No Say Forwards with October in Tony Gonzalez, part of Michael Tour podcast network available on the I Heart Radio

46:06app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. But also this is another you're going to think it's weird that I noticed, but then they're like, let's do cake. Let's do cake. Did you notice how four of them spit on the cake? Why? You know, you do know, they're going out and they're like, I'd rather I'd rather pick up shit than see somebody drool. Like I have a thing with saliva. I'm not okay. So tell me this because I missed it. Okay, so really all that what was happening with Shannon was struggling to blow out the candle. I did. Oh, so then the other girls tried then I always I always take the first layer off the cake before I eat it. You do? Hell yeah. Well then that's all I could think about was did anyone eat the cake after this happened? I mean the night was pretty much over so maybe not. That brought it home for a dog.

47:08Do we did he make a cameo this episode? I think he did. I know she got my talking. He's got a he's a new cast member. He's like she's like you want me to give you some water or something like she had to bring them in and he was overheating outside. He was like I think it's funny. It was dark. It was like dark. It was like six p.m. She's having a conversation with Dawson and Grayson and the dogs like I mad and out so fat on her. She's like do you want to sit my protein shake? She's bad for God's hand. But this is where Dawson talks about wanting to leave the Marines but how much his dad really wants him to stay and I think he wants to say too. I have to say that her boys are lovely. I just want to hug them. I love her kids.

48:09You know show me your kids and I'll show you who you are. Kudos to Jen. She raised men. They're beautiful boys. They're close and thank you for your service Dawson. But you know the father's like stick it out. You started. It's a big a compliment. My family are Marines. I wanted to join the Marines. It's a sense of accomplishment to finish and I think he should really stick it out. Yeah I think once you started something you stick it out. That's how I treated my kids. You don't like it. You started it. Finish it. Yeah we're going to finish it. Easy for me to say. But I think that it's lack out mode. I think though that because earlier on in the season remember there was a scene between Jen and Grayson when he got a speeding ticket and he was like I just don't have both my parents. So I think they're trying to give the illusion. But I think the dad's still in the picture. I think he just doesn't get along with Ryan and Jen. Right. There's two things can be true. He can still be a good dad and not want to be

49:13around Ryan and Jen. Those kids were rared well. Yeah okay so you know she's only been divorced in the past few years. They don't look you know to me like kids that had terrible parents or they seem to be on the right track and doing well. So I mean I can't knock the husband. I don't know him. I don't know enough about him. Yeah I know. But then I think it's funny. He doesn't pay bills. He made her flounder financially. That was nice. But he also worked for her parents. Her parents have money. He worked for her dad. Her parents have money. I don't know how much money they have but that was his job before they got divorced. I thought that he had a lot of money or something. I don't know. No he listened like a one bedroom. Oh more clear to me. I felt like he was like in finance or C. I had this whole different. No he had he had a big title job but it was at

50:14Jen's parents company. And like that's why he would be like by coastal or whatever it's called when somebody would go to another state and then come back. Well thank you for that information. You're welcome. I'm just a bundle of uses and you really are. It's not useless that. I feel differently about something. So then I'm... Race and Struggles to open and Struggles opening up to his parents. How'd you feel about that? He's like I like speaking to a therapist. Most kids don't want to talk to their parents. Yeah they don't. Slay wouldn't even let me take today was her first day and her like picture day. And she wouldn't even let me take a picture before she left. Eight. Well that's the end. Let me take a picture. I mean and she had a full glam done by herself. I'm like and you would think she'd want her picture taken. I'm like you look beautiful. Like why don't you do my glam like that? As I'm like sitting there like red face and peeling. Oh, I'm like you look stunning and she's like thanks. I did my makeup. But that's why she couldn't

51:17walk to the bus today because she didn't want to mess up her makeup. Yeah, a driver. I can't drive. But yes someone had to drive her. That is. She didn't want to mess her makeup. Yeah because I can walk to the bus but I can't do the driving. So that's how it goes. But either why she won't even take a picture with me. So I get how grace and saying he doesn't totally like that. Yeah. Sidebar. Number one. It ends like men's a more. She just sits there. He's like you know I want to quit the means she's like so would you dare say oh how about say don't quit buddy. You came as what like don't I don't want to say camera or how about like when when um Grayson says like I'm mistrown into a therapist. Well how about say you'll be in one tomorrow if that's what you want buddy. Yeah. We'll make sure you're in one tomorrow. The issue with we're having a gen this season which I like her this season I'm being honest but always like Jen. I like Jen but I think she also some of these conversations are played out for the camera. So there has

52:23to be a certain narrative surrounding them and when that narrative gets tweaked a little she's like what like you saw when she came back and came back like they let the boys talk. Yeah. Yeah. And then the boys jokingly were like you're the worst we said you were the worst and she's like what you could see like actual panic in her face for a second. Like to think oh god would you guys say about me. But I mean I thought it was I thought of you know I think they have a good relationship. Beautiful. Yeah. Um to spice things up. Tamra aka Miss Juicy and Eddie needed a hotel for some sexy time. Dead. Don't tell me it was like soft porn like compare it to another sexy in a in a housewives in 20 years. The only sexy that I could kind of think it was somewhat close to was Whitney roses when she was like naked on the painting. Yeah.

53:27That was a big one but I didn't watch it but I kind of like knew about it. Yeah. But I guess so you that's the only one in all these years. Yeah. I mean other than when Tamra and Eddie were in the bathtub. Well Teresa was in the bathtub with Joe Judy. I used to do. Oh yeah that's pretty me watching. Oh wait let's go back to New York when the guy got out of bed and there was a shit stain on this shit. Remember? Yeah. What? Like a big skid mark. He thought it was just a tube but it came out as more. Couldn't help it. He sharded himself. Who was he in bed with? I can't remember. Let's not take away from this amazing scene. Yeah. I felt like okay so that was like rose but funny. Hold on. Hold on. First they walk in and she's like for Miss Juicy. I mean

54:32and then they sit down and they're at like their two two top and she orders champagne and he's like I've got tequila and she's like that makes you want to take your clothes off. She's still wearing her trench coat. I don't realize that was in her trench coat. That was like a fur coat. You wear New Jersey in the middle of the winter. Was it cold that day? Well then when she goes you could tell this was probably after glass to a champagne. She's like well look right side. I died and Eddie was like oh wow that's nice. I thought to myself would I get the same reaction from Paul? I know I know I don't look the same as Tamra but like I don't even like I don't know and he's like close that up there's people here. I know they're close up so then they go they close it up. I wasn't being shy. I mean I don't know what she took before she got there but standing in this white tamarind. Yeah because hers was tingling obviously as well. Oh yeah. Kristen Hennanyan. What did you give her? Viagra?

55:38There is a female Viagra it's called Adi Adi GDI. Oh really? Oh good to know. But then they play an adult Jenga where I can't. When Eddie spanks Tamra and she gets she's a nice cat. She's a nice horse and a dog. She's earned her money. She's earned her keep Tamra. You could take off for the rest of the season because I would she's like she's a team player bro because you would like hold on when she when he goes to slap her butt which I don't even know if you could call it that when he like magic with mine would look like if he's like oh also then he gets some bears that he laughs and he puts his head on it right on her butt. I know I know that. I was going to say this whole thing. I was dying the whole time. The whole time. I was

56:39dying from the minute. I can't wait to see what people have to say about this. Yeah I mean I got to say seeing her bark like a dog like I want to make her do that weekly. That's going to be a meme. She did it well. She wasn't even caring. She's like okay. I'll do it. I'd be like listen I'm producers. I'm out. Like I'm out. But I think what they do show here is that like they their relationship is solid. Like they want to work on it. They love each other. They do love I've been with them. Yeah. And they do love each other and he is and she's what she's accountable. She's like listen I'm not easy. I am I am rough and he is a good man and I've seen him. He's like kind of like they're nangin nang. You know he's very easy going. Yeah. So easy going. And she's very like type A. But I think for the like I mean I've seen Tamer cry a lot but when I saw her cry in this

57:40episode about Eddie it was a different kind of cry. Like I felt her like whole body choke up. Like she was like she had that love in her throat. Yeah like you could tell like it would like if she lost him it would kill her. I hope that he saw that and I hope that he felt if he remembers that next time he wants to kill her or next time she's beat a bitch. Yeah next time you want like next time he wants to throw that word around. But I think um then we get to Shannon Face Timing Tamer. So they're done with the night. They end it with like all right we're all going to bed now. You know like so then production leaves they probably have. Did they really have? I mean that poor guy was holding out for like the whole out like he was just sitting with his smile on it. They had to with all that effort they had to put God in it in. Um but then um that was that that was a hot that was a hot scene. I'm sorry it was like what about when he was like with her finger? He was like oh I actually thought that was hot. I got that was hot. That was like

58:44I have the body. I got the little movement on that. Yeah but then they they pan away and you hear go oh because she felt a little bit. I'm sweating right now. Yeah. Tamer we're so proud of you. I know good job for bringing it back to him. So then Shannon Face Timing Tamer and says that it's Vicki's birthday um and wants the three of them to meet instead. You can immediately tell this bothers Tamer and she doesn't hide it. She's like uh okay I guess well because it's like what are you afraid of? Stop acting like this. I don't have the patience for this type of like going on about this. Like you know Shannon's not typically is she is this really the way she is like scared. Because the first time I met him uh Shannon Bedore she wasn't anything like that but I think a lot has changed in the last two and a half years. Yes. I think a lot has changed.

59:48That's for sure. I mean it's like somebody who's been you know through it like traumatic like you know she's fragile like you said but you know I the first time I met Shannon she was not that nice and that was 10 years ago. Yeah she wasn't that nice to you. Nope. What did she do? So it was my first trip as a housewife. Yeah. I think I went to Atlanta or Georgia we were doing like a party together. She kept me out of every conversation. Like put her back towards you. Yeah and acted like she we were with Jamie. He was like the guy that like you know our handler and uh only spoke to him about their dealings and things that they've done together and I sat there like not a part of any type of conversation. I remember specifically saying that like

1:00:49about her house. She had a big house at the time right? Yeah. Before she still was with David. Okay talking about her house and things like that and I tried to enter into the conversation a couple times and I never forgot. It wasn't nice. Yeah. So I don't know Shannon to always like I don't think she's always like and I was really excited to be there like they had me and my kids pictures in my room when I got there. I felt like a big shot. Yeah. Um I I think that I think I think things shifted. I think she's been a little humbled. Um but then this is perfectly laid out. Vicki Shannon are waiting for Tamara and they're discussing Tamara and they're like oh I think Tamara's here. I think Tamara's here and they're like looking and then they're like you see like one of their hands go down and then you see Tamara walking into Javier's where the other girls are. That was that was perfectly played perfectly played cut that I were I said paid. Um but then

1:01:54this is where it continues on. So she sits down and all the girls are like how there's like you don't mind that I invited Tamara and they're like joking. They're like oh yeah we mind ha ha ha ha you know like whatever they really did but and then Tamara is like oh well yeah I was supposed to be with Shannon not for her birthday but then she wanted to be me her and Vicki so then I just sent Vicki flowers to the table. Well it's always that those flat when you see those flowers coming like remember when the flowers were sent on my episode. Yeah like did Marge send them. Marge sent a funeral arrangement. When we were having a meeting with James Leonard and Teresa, Jackie, Jen, Danielle Cabral, Gia was at the table and it was basically about stuff that they had revealed no need to rehash that and all of a sudden you see on the camera there's like a funeral arrangement at the tour and I think it read my deepest sympathy to your pride or something.

1:03:01I don't even remember it was like my deepest sympathies for whatever. So Teresa yelled at the poor guy almost cried told him to get off the property. Oh my gosh that is I mean this was kind of one of those moments it was one of those moments for me I felt like yeah yeah I was like well sorry for the loss of your dignity. Yeah well this one was signed from Tamara judge. I mean I'm sorry this one was signed from Tamara Grudge. I will never call her Tamara judge again. I have to remember that she's grudge only. Only grudge we only call her Tamara Grudge. She like that was so good. Yeah I feel like well and that she also she did a perfect amount of pass of aggressiveness like she's like I didn't want to make Shannon feel uncomfortable knowing good and wall Shannon's going to be there while she's reading this note for the full flowers. So then Shannon's like told you so see I was right about everything. I knew I felt this way for a reason.

1:04:09I thought they were beautiful flowers by the way. Those were those were nice flowers. They were not cheap. Those were pricey flowers. Yeah but I mean I think this is what Tamara needed to do in order for Shannon to wake up like Shannon you're either a part of this and we're going to get figured out or like let's just like yeah like Shannon's got to stop being mopey. I'm tired of seeing her crying tired of seeing her cry about being by herself. I don't want to see it anymore. Yeah and happy yeah or just be willing to try. You don't have you can't force yourself to be happy but you can be willing to try to make this. She's acting like Tamara beat her up. I know. I can understand if Tamara physically heard her. Yeah I mean I but I liked the fake out and I was like this isn't really going to remind me of anything from the past because it's not like Tamara's there throwing napkins or like flipping tables or like nothing like that's happening. And you know what and who said this in this

1:05:15episode and I remember hearing this they're both went after each other. It's not just like it was always Tamara picking on her. Yeah they both went after each other. Yeah well then Vicki Phil Shannon and about Gina telling her what Tamara said about the ring. Yeah and Shannon's reaction like what do you mean? Hold on. What? Oh my god. Yeah I don't believe it. I was like did you act this out in practice in front of the mirror before? No she actually liked that all the time. Come on. No listen she acts like that. You know and you know don't act like you're not used to these things being brought up on camera either. But that's what I mean that level of shock and like it's the first time you heard it please. She's but Tatti don't act like she's not an animated person. That call was really pivotal for me. Hey it's Emily Tish Sussman and this is an unsheep

1:06:20pivots the podcast where women share bold career moves and personal turning points that changed everything. I sit down with culture shifting women who share their pivots like Para Olympian Allie Truett. I was like I'm a month out from a shark attack. There's no way in 11 months I'm making the Verlundex advocate Elizabeth Smart. I still feel that dry that I can still make a difference so I'm gonna keep going. Celebrity chef Carla Hall was that scary to walk away from such a stable career after just two years? No I was more afraid of being unhappy than I was broke and in a dead and job that I didn't enjoy. And feminist legend Laurias Dynum. All of us were trying to express women's real lives. We need a meeting place of our own and if I can contribute to that I'd like to maintain that and leave this house for that purpose. Listen to she pivots on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Self-care September is here which means it's time to rethink what self-care actually means. Yes self-care can be a long walk it can be

1:07:23in everything shower it can be putting your phone on do not disturb but sometimes it's actually about sitting with the uncomfortable stuff and understanding your patterns your boundaries finally figuring out why you keep doing things that you swore you would never do again. I'm Jenna Speg the host of the psychology of your 20s podcast and each week we unpack the psychology behind the experiences that shape your 20s from relationships and friendships to money anxiety confidence attachment just becoming more comfortable with who you are. Unlike the quarter-life crisis which is depicted as the collapse the quarter-life reinvention is the expansion and worth of something when we develop the ability to be happy by ourselves nobody else can take that from you. So this self-care September don't just take care of yourself get to know yourself as well listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts 30 years ago an island off Manhattan almost brought down New York City.

1:08:23Who will you trust your friends and neighbors or will you trust the people five miles overseas. This is a story about neighbors turning on each other and what happens when a forgotten place decides it's had enough. We reached for a feeling that exists in this city but we're not stopping all we. I'm Ben that of Half-Rate and for my new series on revisionist history I took a deep dive in the Staten Island's attempt to secede from New York City in the 1990s and what it all has to do with the politics of resentment that dominate America today. Listen to revisionist history the Staten Island problem on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey what's up I'm Tony Gonzalez and I'm October Gonzalez but you can call me Toby we want you to join us on our new podcast No Safe Words with October and Tony Gonzalez we get real about marriage

1:09:27parenthood sex divorce and all the nitty gritty stuff we all think about but just don't say I hate that job you're probably just gonna meet with some rich guy and he's gonna whisk you away and I'll never see you again. Oh This is all. Would you say a dealist actor? D? I don't even know there's this thing is D. No no no I mean like I didn't even get on the sea list like I'm not even average I'm not even passing I'm failing. Listen to No Safe Words with October and Tony Gonzalez part of Michael Tour podcast network available on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hey it's Bobby Bones join me in former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday on our podcast lots to say with me Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. We also bring in friends and mostly match friends who are current or former NFL players some of the biggest names in music and entertainment and then we have some really great conversations that can pretty much go anywhere. The great Taikman Jones after the game to hold national task force for police officers was

1:10:27at the stadium like hey buddy yeah you out of come on and one of my favorite segments we do is called situational awareness where Bobby and I give each other real life situations and figure out what we'd actually do. You're in training camp and the rookie quarterback has one good throwing session in front of the media suddenly everybody online says he should start over you week one. How do you handle this? You just go back out to practice the next day and wait for him to mess up. Listen to lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay so then back at Javier's Emily leaves the charge confronting Heather about calling Carmella Trashy and not belonging with the group Heather. She is going hard. The last last season she went after Tamara and Merle. Oh yeah I remember I forgot about that.

1:11:31I was trying to think who was all the drama between last season and then now it was Emily and Heather. A lot well no I'm sorry Emily and Tamara but Tamara didn't fight with her that much because Gretchen was there. Oh yeah Gretcher's Gretcher's Gretcher's was last season it was Gretcher's and Tamara and Emily was like kind of like fighting with Tamara a lot and then now it's Emily and Heather. So maybe this is the answer to our question maybe Emily is the one to bring it to the group because she's the one to bring it to this table she's bringing it yeah she's bringing it she's bringing it to I mean at least she's telling Heather so it's not I hate if she if nobody would have told Heather and we would have gone out the whole season with Carmella bitching behind Heather's back that she called her you know like Trash when really like Heather did the right thing by apologizing to her for it. Well Heather like you said got ahead of it yeah but I feel like Emily was not going to let

1:12:34Heather get away with it if this is the last thing she did. No she wasn't but don't forget you have homework you're gonna find out who was the rat yeah who was the rat I'm gonna figure it out. Well then the women meet at the park for Jen's spiritual exercise and lunch after non-aventure sorry after a non-aventful energy session Heather pulls Carmella's side and reveals to her what she said and appalled at the energy session you know she how embarrassed for her like so and like how are you feeling she was trying well. Well like this doesn't this is what they mean at least Emily gave it a shot and I think used a word that like or noted Emily say family. I don't know but just Gina said that. Gina said family Emily said guilt. Oh yeah guilt. I mean this entire I mean you could tell that Jen was cringing that she's brought her friend

1:13:38and do this and nobody's taking it seriously. Well you know it is you feel a sense of responsibility when you bring somebody on to promote their business or whatever and the girls like shit all over them. Yeah and then you're like oh sorry I mean they have no shame they do it they've done it on my show I never do that though Teddy I always try to be like really nice unless I don't like the person. No it's like I tried you try to show up for everything and you try to be happy for them and like you you also participate you participate you take it serious you're gonna see on my episodes. The girls this season with me remember this guys the girls this season did not take something serious and I got really mad about it. Oh see I kind of hold it in and then I'm mad later and then I'll just think about it forever. There was a reason I got mad right away it's almost funny. Okay I can't wait but I won't tell you I can't wait to back. But then they sit down

1:14:43for lunch they get their croissant of box. I think it's great and so cute and then Heather must have like I was like oh Heather did you see Carmella's bank account so you got glimps of it so you're gonna have a little coffee over the back. She's like she's like I think you're a great girl but I called you trashy. Before I knew how much money you had. But then I thought like Carmella so she did not know how much money Carmella has before she got on the show. We knew how much money she knew how much money she has but then like Carmella's like I want it you know there's nothing worse than feeling like you're not enough like cart even what there's no matter what they're throwing at Carmella she's still being like authentic and vulnerable and not like being like I don't think she cares that much. Well I think when she said when you feel like when they served in her confessional she didn't seem like she cared when she was talking to Heather now but when in the confessional and she's like yeah when things keep getting thrown in your face like you're not enough it hurts. You know I understand her and I I think you know everyone's human right no matter

1:15:52how much I never judge anybody by the way they're acting because I hold a lot of things in. I'm not emotional I don't cry so she might be that girl she's been through like listen I don't think she's been through. She's someone that doesn't even open his mouth. She's got a temper we all know we don't know what her life has been like she's never been back home since she left and we don't know like she has a topic exterior everybody's been through things in their life that makes them handle things differently right. I never judge someone by their feelings not like not seeing their feelings hurt. I you have to remember the person's human. Yeah I mean just because I don't cry doesn't mean I don't hurt. You don't like have emotion but they're back at the table now and Shannon is basically an anaphylactic shock whilst while Gina is questioning why what the hell but wait a second why did her anaphylactic shock shock happen at that time

1:16:55because they were questioning her so she's allergic to questions. Yeah both. I think Tamra said she's allergic to me because if she was allergic to the feathers or anything else there she would have sneezed as soon as she sat down. Well I think Tamra addresses why she didn't show up with the Shannon and Vicki lunch and as that's happening that's when the anaphylactic shock comes into play. Correct but like I said how I mean you can't fake sneezing I do believe it was real sneezing. Really? That was so fake. That's actually what my sneeze smells like. Sneeze sounds like and that was not so fake. Okay I want to ask you. It was totally. That was fake. Okay but I didn't say I could do a fake one. You tell me you think that was fake? I feel like it's not on her chin. They were like I think at the beginning it was not and then it

1:17:56transpired. Really? Teddy I don't think so I disagree. Well I don't know her eyes did seem like really bloodshot after like she couldn't get a breath so but anyhow they nothing really gets cleared up between Shannon and Tamra at this point. Gina then brings up how she's like why hasn't Vicki confronted you Tamra about the ring rumor and then you see Vicki's eyes like what? And she already knows the rumor. She knows that Tamra said it and she's refusing to talk about it. That's what leads me to believe she does not want to. She's like this is on TV. He's going to have a fit. You know I feel bad like I don't want her relationship. I think her relationship means a lot to her and I don't want like her to have a hard time with it. Like I feel bad. Yeah well the girl you can tell she feels bad too because the girls cut and tried to chime in and give their two cents and

1:18:57then she's like it doesn't matter it's in here. I hope he gives her a little bit of a break. I mean come on. Then I kind of was like where's Jen in the scene she keeps like missing her moment to chime in. Jen yeah I don't know but where was Carmella did you have to go to bathroom because she comes back to a total shit show. She comes back to a total shit show and did you see that she had her lap top with her like Carmella did? Yes. When they were walking for the apology. Is she getting ready for a closing? I think it was in case she thought Heather wanted her to get the apartment. Well any hill Vicki then screams at Tamron says he's going to lose his shit if this is on TV. So the fact that they're breaking the fourth wall means they really want us to see it. Yeah. But they're also want to solidify that this guy has a problem with him being talked about

1:20:03on TV. Yeah. But then it's like it really bugs me. It's like you know what you signed up for even if she wasn't on the show. You know what she did for she was the OG at the OC. Hello. I feel like somebody got to I've seen this before and it was always because there was somebody else influencing their idea about the show. How they talk about it. What it would like oh it'll ruin your life. It'll ruin your unscathed reputation in your casita. Like you know I'm I'm saying like there may be something behind this. Yeah. I mean I think he probably has I mean we've never seen that. I don't know if I've not sit around watching Bravo. What does he know anything about it? But then we go back to is she the one who was dominant pillow talk looking for you know sometimes you look for attention from your partner and you tell them things that you probably shouldn't have.

1:21:05See but that's where I just agree with you. I think she's telling him because she feels guilty. She's worried about to come out on the show and him see it before she tells him. I think she's doing it right away. Not amateur because it not because she wants comfort but because she wants to make sure she's got her basis covered. Amateur. That's an amateur move. I mean but Vicki's saying the that he's going to freak out if it goes on TV. I'm like you just put it on TV like it is now now that you've said that remark it's all but she told Tamra off camera. I don't know when she told Tamra because Tamra is the one that revealed that he had a ring but he said I think it was off camera when he was in Vegas. If she's good for 90 days she gets a ring but at 70 she screws up he takes it back. He starts from screw. Yeah. Okay so we never we never actually heard the story

1:22:07on camera until Tamra told us until Tamra told us but I don't know I feel like if that wasn't enough Vicki goes off on Heather for trying to express her opinion. That was kind of like uncalled for and no Jen. She yelled at Jen. Oh yeah. She yelled at Jen. He's like Jen what do you shut up? She goes what are you yelling at me for? I'm not even the one that started the conversation. She goes because I just heard your voice. I heard you but then she yelled at Heather too because Heather tried to interject and she goes you keep over interrupting me and I can't even get a word and she's like Heather's like this is the first time I've actually spoken. So Vicki was just in a state of panic. Yeah. When this project came up because she's worried about having problems with him. Yeah. And then we end the day as anybody should with Vicki and Shannon accepting Christian Deore gifts from Carmel. And I love that. Let her go to like what's your go-to gift that you buy

1:23:09for people? We gifted candles. You can take a candle. I won't give you one now. No actually I do if you live in California then I get you a pelicure gift certificate because it's my favorite scrub in the entire world like you go in and it's like a pelicure. What's a pelicure? Pelicure you go in and like they have like this shower that's above your head and it like flows water on you and then they scrub your body down and then they give you a massage. It's like the but when you come you I'm making you do it but just don't have a fresh spray town. Okay. Okay. But Vicki's a little bit jealous I think of Shannon's gift. She's like I'm gonna return my scarf for a purse a bag. My scarf and my wallet. You're gonna have to put some money towards that. Well I don't know I think at the scarf and the wallet probably the same price is that back.

1:24:10She got a scarf and a wallet. I just don't know she got a scarf and a wallet. So she spent the same on each person but she just didn't get them all bags. Carmella is very nice. I'm sorry. I like Carmella. Carmella my birthday is July 1st. You'll be getting a bag. That's your bag. It's yours happy when they see you're coming. But you know that's like thoughtful. Yeah I thought it was and of course Vicki has a reason to like I'm like also Vicki couldn't remember your name last episode. That's what she remembered her name when she got the gift. But you know then there's Shannon like tearing up over the gift like oh that's so nice. I know but she might have not been tearing up. She may have just been recovering from her anaphylactic shock. No she was tearing up. I know she was. You said the shock was the anaphylactic thing was fake so no. No you told me I wasn't so I believe you.

1:25:14I don't think it was and but then again she's fragile so I think it was very nice and I think that I want I don't know if this is Shannon or if this is Shannon now but I'd like to see a mix of an old Shannon and the Shannon now. Yeah I do too but I thought all in all this episode gave us exactly what it needed to give us. We needed this. Thank you Tamara. Tamara Grudge you Vickson you Tamara Grudge you did it again. Slam and body. I'll give it to her. No wonder why. How do you still going nowhere? Treat him like shit be a bitch don't have sex if you don't want to. The guy ain't leaving. Yeah I'm leaving. Well I love this episode today we laughed a lot. It's so fun. It's so fun when I see you. I know it's always fun but you guys make sure that you keep tuning in and you leave us comments. You like it. What do you think of us? What do you think of

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