A New War Is Brewing In The Homeland: Trump Vs Springsteen

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2:04the WWE. We talked about our mistakes too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games. Check out Game Recognized Game with Stuy and Miles on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, the folks, it is Friday, April 3rd, and we are rooting for, but not very hopeful. For a romance between President Trump and Bruce Springsting, and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Why is the president? This was a weird insult that got my attention this morning, and now we're looking into it a little more. But there is a back and forth between Trump and one of the greatest artists of all time. Quite frankly, it involves plastic surgery and boycotting concerts. It's an ugly, very public back and forth. They're just insulting each other. Yeah, it's one thing to disagree with one another politically, but this is way beyond that. And look, Bruce Springsting, the boss, he is basically America.

3:05I mean, you think about just iconic American singers that embody the working man up there on stage, making good, like that's Bruce Springsting. Jersey Guy, right? Yeah, like the heart of America, right? So it just seems so interesting to see President Trump make America great again. And Bruce Springsting, a absolute symbol of American greatness, going at it publicly. Robes, they have the same audience. These two men have the exact same audience for the most part. So is that group torn? This is a, I was going to be a little dismissive role, but this is now going to continue. If you haven't been keeping up, folks, it got my attention because last night at 921 in the middle of war, the president of the United States put out a truth social post. One sentence again at 921 last night, rogues, and one of the first things we do every morning when we get up is we check the president's truth social fee because he often makes news.

4:07He's talking about the straight-of-war moves. He's talking about who he's negotiating with in Iran. He's talking about the budget. He's talking about DHS. And so I was thrown to see this. Yeah, he slipped this one in last night is, well, wow, I can't believe I just said. I like that. Is Bruce Springsteen going to sue his plastic surgeon? It just seemed like this strange truth social tweet. He didn't even sign off with the DJT or thank you for your attention to this matter. That was like a random among the toilet message. So it, I think he was operating under the belief that people are glued to his truth social feed and have actually been list, but you must have missed 13 hours earlier. And he posted quite a lengthy scathing post about Bruce Springsteen. So it was funny. He started the day thinking about Bruce Springsteen, and it's almost as if he ended his evening thinking about Bruce Springsteen. Well, this goes back and forth. This goes back quite a ways.

5:07This goes back some say years and years and years, a back and forth in the beef between these two. Yes, they have different politics. That is fine. These things have turned. It seems as of late robes as there's a lot more name calling and less policy disagreement. There is name accusations of treason people being losers needing plastic surgery and what in God's name. So it's been going on for years and really robes. It started off again this week because the Springsteen tour is starting this week. He was a part of the No Kings rallies. And I guess that's what really set the president off on the previous social media posts. Correct. Correct. Bruce Springsteen said that he is not going to be shy or afraid to get political and to say what he really thinks about this president. And he did so on stage. And that makes now a lot more sense when you hear what President Trump wrote about Bruce Springsteen a few hours earlier. He said bad and very boring singer.

6:08Bruce Springsteen. Who looks like a dried up prune who has suffered greatly from the work of a really bad plastic surgeon has long had a horrible and incurable case of Trump derangement syndrome. It's a thing. Sometimes referred to as TDS. So your doctor. He is the chief diagnoser by the way. Okay. President Trump goes on to say this about Springsteen. The guy is a total loser who spews hate against a president who won a landslide election. And including the popular vote, all seven swing states, and 86% of the counties across America. Under Sleepy Joe and the Dems, our country was dead. And now we have the hottest country by far anywhere in the world. Maga should boycott his overpriced concerts, which suck save your heart. Sorry. It's on suck, suck, see your heart earned money.

7:11America is back. And he wrote that last thing about the boycott in all caps. That's incredibly personal. Is it because Bruce Springsteen has such a big stage, has such a big audience and such a big microphone that he feels like he needs to combat this guy word for word publicly almost? Yes. I think he really, I think actually it's a compliment. That makes kind of not a lot of sense, but maybe it will when you think about it. It's a compliment to Bruce Springsteen. He knows the power this man has. He knows the following he has. And so yes, you've got pictures of Bruce Springsteen on stage in a sold-out crowd holding up a no-king sign in Minneapolis. And yes, opened up his The Land of Hope and Dreams tour, basically bashing President Trump. In his first speech, he said that America is currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent, racist, reckless, and treasonous administration.

8:11Them are fightin' words. Okay, racist, treasonous, I mean, I don't know what- Reckless? Reckless, you can get in this country, at least. If Bruce Springsteen feels that way, he feels that way. You can feel how you want to feel about him expressing himself. He has a right to certainly. Don't like the words he's choosing. You could take issue with it. Where do we then, robes? Well, we have the expectation. Presidents get criticized more than anybody, any celebrity who's ever been attacked in a tabloid. Absolutely. Presidents get all kinds of incoming. They don't do this. They don't take on all comers in this way. He could have a policy discussion. Well, of course, he's not going to do that. But I'm just saying, it's not that he's being criticized is that he is taking, like, tit for tact. It seems he needs to give it back to him in the middle of war. Yeah. He's taking things, as he always has, let's be honest, very personally. I think it's fair to say he is the most, or at least the most I've ever seen, thin-skinned

9:14president I've ever witnessed in my lifetime. Some will say this is toughness. Not going to be able to talk about. Really, I am not just turning- I'm saying people flip it. You're in a place where we can now justify. I don't know what person, what parent, would tell their child to behave this way. You wouldn't tell your child if you get it in, so you need to hit them harder. Give the same insult back. Make sure you punch down where you wouldn't, so I'm saying, why is it we can look at this and defend this in some circles as if this is okay when robes? There's nobody does this. And what's, and President Trump, what he's saying is, you got bad plastic surgery. You're old and you're boring. Yeah, it was a policy. You were- Going after his music, going after his looks, going after- That's right. It's just, it's so superficial and so childlike. Thank you. Thank you for explaining what my issue is. That's what it is. He calls him a prune.

10:15He calls him- Boring. You're in a sort of plastic, sir. Boring. That is not saying you got issue with my policies, well, I got issue. That's- so yes, that's the thing that got me. You talked about last, this tour is now officially kicking off the U.S. leg, but he was doing it overseas, even last year, and I think that's was the first one that really got President Trump's attention. He was on stage over there, and he used that saying word. He was talking with treasonous, called him treasonous, talking to a foreign audience about what's happening in America. A lot of people take issue with that, but he's an entertainer. He's not a politician. Yeah. I mean, look, at this point, and Bruce Springsteen has kind of said, I'm at a point now where I'm going to say, and basically, I've earned the right, and I'm an American, and I have a stage, and I have a platform, and I am going to say what I think about this President, and I don't care if it alienates half of my audience. I don't care if it has any sort of impact on ticket sales or music downloads, because at this point, it's dangerous not to.

11:16And that's basically the line he drew. I mean, that's cool to have- you can't do nothing to me money. And he does. I mean, he's just reached that level. I do wonder, Robes, is there going to be a conflict? Is there going to be a battle among these two guys who have the exact same audience? These two guys who represent Robes, I thought, almost the exact same thing, or at least mindset, or they represent- You're saying working class white guys? What is he said? Both of them are- Springsteen is 75. Yeah, they're about the same age. Same age. Same age. Same age. Same age. Same age. Our audience, that is very true. Now, it's interesting because, look, people do start to take sides. We don't know if this will have any impact when the president calls for a boycott, which he very clearly did, called for a boycott of Bruce Springsteen's concerts. Will people follow suit? Will people feel loyal towards the president and say, I no longer like Bruce Springsteen? What would you say? You know what? Don't give me your answer to that just yet.

12:17Stay here. Well, let's you know, we told you this really got set off last year with Springsteen, his comments on a stage at a concert in overseas, well, let's you hear the president's original scathing response to that, which I would argue Rose might have been worse than some of the stuff he's been tweeted in the past 24 hours, and we'll also get the answer from Roealock. Do we really think this is going to make a difference in the president's support versus Springsteen's ticket sales? Stay here. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of The On purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Noah Khan, the singer-songwriter behind the multi-platinum global hit, Stick Season, and one of the biggest voices in music today. Noah opens up about the pressure that followed his rapid success, his struggles with mental health and body image, and the fear of starting again after such a defining moment in his

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17:28And then he goes on to LA after that, which again, he'll probably have a very, yes, a safe crowd, a very supportive crowd, generally speaking, performing in Portland, Oregon, and then in Los Angeles. Do you, I'm checking now, where I have an idea, I assume it's going to be a huge tour. I don't know how many tour dates he has lined up, but the President needs to be, I say he needs to be. He probably is concerned about that role. This guy's going to have the stage damn near every night for the next few months. And he is going on stage, or some of these concerts he's already done. He stops and makes little political speeches throughout these concerts. These are almost political rallies. He actually warned, he did some interviews beforehand, and he told reporters, just letting you know, I am going to be very political. So he basically said, hey, if you're coming out to this concert, I think people know what they're getting. They love his music. They've been fans for years, but they also recognize he's been very, very specific and overt about what this concert means to him, how he feels about the current administration

18:30and how he is going to voice his opinion in between his music about how he feels about where this country is and who it's being led by. Twenty dates between now and May 27th. Twenty dates. What do you think about those cities, Portland, LA, San Francisco, Phoenix, Newark, Sunrise, Florida, Austin, Chicago, Atlanta, Illinois, Park, New York, Philly, okay. He's made some wise choices. He's no dummy. Brooklyn, Massachusetts. I don't see, I don't see a lot of red cities in that lineup. Boston, DC. Okay. Point taken. He's got some safe cities. They don't think, given those audiences, his ticket sales should probably suffer at all. You know, I'm kind of surprised. He doesn't do more in the heartland, if you will. Maybe with this particular tour, he knew exactly what he was going to do and who his audience was. Damn, that's a good point. I think you probably made a very specific choice about where he was going and who was going to be in the audience. Truly, you would want to put yourself at risk.

19:30The way things are these days, you think, I mean, I hate to even say Charlie Kirk, but look, we've seen what happens when you have folks come into some of these arenas where you are on a stage and some people take it as an opportunity, and especially when you're outspoken, especially when you say, this is how I feel, and I'm not going to be shy about it. Yeah, you invite, I was just thinking about what security might be like, forget ticket sales. I would be a little concerned about security at those venues. And I haven't seen anything. I don't know if you have anything that suggested ticket sales were being hurt in any way, shape, or form at this point, right? I have not. Okay. You were really excited about reading. This is what the president said. How long ago did he say this? This was last year in response. Yeah. Last year. We covered this one. But it's just, it's worth revisiting given the latest tweets we've just seen from the president who is still stuck and harping and harping on, excuse me, Bruce Springsteen. So here is what he wrote last year. I see that a highly overrated Bruce Springsteen goes to a foreign country to speak badly about the president of the United States, never liked him, never liked his music or his radical

20:35left politics. And importantly, he is not a talented guy, just a pushy, obnoxious jerk who fervently supported Cricket Joe Biden, a mentally incompetent fool, and our worst ever president who came close to destroying our country. If I wasn't elected, it would have been gone by now. Oh my goodness. Wow. I didn't realize he said that. America was at risk. We would have been blown off the map. Okay. Sleepy Joe didn't have a clue as to what he was doing. But Springsteen is dumb as a rock and couldn't see what was going on. Or could he, which is even worse? This dried out prune of a rocker, his skin is all atrophied, ought to keep his mouth shut until he gets back into the country. That's just standard fare. Then we'll all see how it goes for him. So it looks like that that maybe Bruce Springsteen did take some advice from him and waited until he came back to the country and then opened his mouth again. And now the president is still very unhappy.

21:35Then we'll see how it goes for him. That's a weird threat. A threat? A threat? Yes. I'm serious. Some people might get joy out of this. Think it's cute. Think it's funny. Think it's no big deal. And that's fine. I just, I wish cooler heads would prevail. Look, I think, look, I don't know how powerful we were looking and there's some headlines at the Musicians Union now has come out in support of Bruce Springsteen. I didn't know there was a Musicians Union, but it is interesting what they've said. I think this speaks volumes and maybe they are concerned about not just ticket sales, but countercours or people being turned off by Bruce Springsteen based on what the president said. They put out this statement in response to the president's call for a boycott. We cannot remain silent as one of our most celebrated members is singled out and personally attacked by the president of the United States. Bruce Springsteen is not just a brilliant musician. He has a voice for working people, a symbol of American resilience and an inspiration to

22:36millions in this country and around the world from Nebraska to born to run. His music has spoken truth to power for decades and that is exactly what he is doing now. Musicians have the right to freedom of expression and we stand in complete solidarity with Bruce and every member who uses their platform to speak their conscience. People 802 and local 47 will always defend that right. What's Nebraska? That's a song of his. I thought you saw the list states from Nebraska to what? It's a born to run. Sorry. Okay. You were not a big Bruce Springsteen fan. You're not one thing the president and I might agree on, but you're not necessarily fans of music, but I respect it. I know who that guy is. I know what he means. I think I know he's an old timer. Never gotten to his music. Fine. No big deal. But literally born in the USA is Bruce Springsteen's song like born in the USA.

23:39Streets of Philadelphia. Thunder Road. Don't. I'm on fire dancing in the dark. Oh my goodness. All of his amazing songs. What was the one in the video that they were out in the cornfield in the house in the hill? That's Jack and Diane. Isn't it with John Melon Camp? Wait, I don't know if you're thinking of that one. Glory Days. What? Glory Days. Look at the houses. No. What? Damn. I don't know what you're talking about. I was. I'm not as big of a music video person, so I'm not as sure about that song. Okay. Anyway, folks, we thought it was interesting. It's worth noting. These are two, you could, you could, very easily say, Robes, iconic Americans when it comes to what America is traditionally seen as viewed as supposed to be. These guys are these rough and gruff, a lot of people look at white men who have big

24:39white followings of middle-aged and older white guys. That's very true. These are really icons in those lanes to the way you can't really describe for a 45-year-old white guy. Is it the mag of bass, bigger icons than these two? I wonder, I wonder, I don't know, I can't get in the head of anyone, but when I know, I've known some avid Bruce Springsteen fans in my life. I can't imagine that they would be willing to just stop listening to the music they love because when you're as Bruce Springsteen fan, you aren't just like, oh, I like Bruce's music. No, you are, like, you bleed the boss, like Bruce. So it's hard to imagine that those folks would be willing to abandon their hero out of allegiance to the president, but I don't know. I don't know what's in people's hearts and I don't know if they had to choose who they would pick. Sometimes divorce is hard, right? You got to pick your friend, which one do you go with? Who do you hang out with? That might be what some folks are having to figure out today.

25:41All right. Before we go, Robes, tell us who you would take. I'm just kidding. Folks, we always appreciate you listening to us, um, DJ Holmes on behalf of my dear Amy Robbock. We'll talk to you all soon. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of The On purpose Podcast. My latest episode is with Noah Khan, the singer-songwriter behind the multi-platinum global here, Stick Season, and one of the biggest voices in music today. Talking about the mental illness stuff, it used to be the thing that I was ashamed of. Talking about this is not common for me. Right now, I need it more than ever. Listen to On purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHAR Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's financial literacy month, and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, here from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakisha Landrum Pierre,

26:41as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to community striving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they failed. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHAR Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Of course, you're accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They hold and came a shale back from fighting droop. Pinkie has financial issues. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recapped the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the tea everybody's talking about. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHAR Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everyone. I'm Cheryl Strade, author of Wild and Tiny Beautiful Things. I'm excited to share that I have a new podcast called Mind Over Mountain.

27:45In each episode, I interview athletes, adventurers, and adrenaline seekers to discuss the inner landscapes that informed and inspired their extraordinary feats. So we too can better understand how to face our own seemingly insurmountable challenges. Listen to Mind Over Mountain every Thursday on the IHAR Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHARP Podcast. Guaranteed Human.