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Welcome back to my podcast and also a YouTube video. For today I'm going to try a technique
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of using voice to actually record and have conversation with historical figures and I've mentioned
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this previously, I've never actually demonstrated them. We've actually got my phone here, we're going to
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have a chat here, the iPhone camera, the MacBook camera isn't giving the best picture there. I did
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try to somehow get the iPhone work with the script and put it in but none of it works so we're
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going to do it the old fashioned way. I'm literally going to hold it as I record it. So what we're
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going to do is I'll actually maybe go on into the iPhone. It's the matter of pressing the little button
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down the bottom here. It brings up a voice mode. You can press it, it'll show the text but I just,
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in this case, we just aren't like a floating blue ball. And you should be out of it.
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Well, the indicator is health. We'll just focus on the conversation. You can count on me to follow
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along while you keep that podcast. Well, yeah, there we go. Well, I've muted at the moment so why not
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actually hear me? So I'm just going to get it to role-play a couple of historical figures. I'm
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going to show it how easily it can be done. Now this is done entirely by voice because it's going
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to be a lot simpler and easy to do. You can do this with text-based conversations for your students.
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This is great in history but it's also great in in language classes because they can have a
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conversation. So demo is good. I don't speak any other languages but I'll pretend to do some
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Spanish and I will see what it does. But we'll start with historical figures. So what I'm going
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to do is I'm going to unmute it and then ask what I'll explain to what I want it to do.
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Okay, so what we're going to do today, we're actually going to get you to role-play the
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Famous Historical Figure as you would for a history class. You're going to play the role of that
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historical figure but you are going to speak into mannerisms and the style of that historical
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figure and you're only allowed the drawer on information that historical figure knew at the
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time. So the ideas we have an authentic conversation of that person. Now the first person we're
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going to do is actually Winston Churchill. Do you understand what I requested of you?
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I understand. I will adopt the voice, tone and knowledge of Winston Churchill and I will speak
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briefly from his historical perspective. Whatever you are ready, we can begin our conversation.
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Okay, the first conversation or question that I do have for Winston Churchill is,
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during World War One when you lost the role in the first Admiral Debt, you'll actually give
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any units on the front line. I read in your autobiography that you used to leave the trenches
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much the horror of your fellow officers and actually go wandering around No Man's land on the
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Western Front during World War One. Is this true and why did it happen? Yes, it is quite true.
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After my resignation, I was determined to serve at the front. The trenches were grim,
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but at times I felt compelled to inspect the ground ahead and impulse to understand the terrain,
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the danger and to share in the risks with my men. It was reckless, yes, but I wanted to feel the
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pulse of the battle as any soldier under my command. That's very good. Let's ask another
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historical question. During World War Two, what was the most important individual decision you
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think you made towards the war if it? Among many grave decisions, I consider standing firm in
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1940 when Britain stood alone to be paramount. The decision not to seek terms with tyranny,
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though others urge negotiation meant we fought on. That resolved at that moment,
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laid the foundation for eventual victory. That's a very good answer, but I guess thinking
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a bit differently, what was the worst decision you made looking back in hindsight?
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In retrospect, the decision to launch the Dardanelles campaign in the first World War,
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though made with strategic hopes, was disastrous. The cost in lives and resources was
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profound, and though I sought to learn from it, it remains a bitter way to bond my conscience.
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Is that true, Dan? Do you think any Australians ever discuss that with you during your career
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about what actually happened at Gallipoli? Indeed, it is. I encountered Australians and New
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Zealanders who spoke candidly of Gallipoli's tragedy. I held deep respect for the NX and acknowledged
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a pain at that campaign, though I could not undo it. I was always prepared to face the reckoning
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and their forthright for flashings. So, post it there, so as we can say, we can have this conversation,
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it's going to draw on the information. It is really good, you can pick any stressful character,
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I'm going to pick a different person now, and we'll get it to adjust.
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Okay, we're finished with Winston Churchill. I'd like you to take on the role of Julius Caesar
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and always knowledge that we know about based from his perspective. Do you understand?
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I understand entirely. I will now embody Julius Caesar, speaking from the knowledge, ambitions,
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and worldview he would have held in his lifetime. When you are ready to ask, Caesar stands prepared.
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Okay, Caesar, I want the question, why when you went to Britannia the first time, why did you leave?
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When I crossed to Britannia, it was to understand the land and to show its tribes the might of
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Rome, yet the campaign was never meant for permanent conquest. I returned because my primary
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objective was achieved. Knowledge gained, tribute promised, and my legions were needed for other
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ambitions closer to goal. That's very good. Now, why did you make that decision become what we
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referred to now as dictated for life, and do you think it was actually the right decision at the
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Rotten? I took the mantle of dictator Perpetua because Rome was in chaos torn by s actions.
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I believed my leadership could bring stability, reform, and a vision of greatness. Yet in hindsight,
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though my intentions were for Rome's glory, the permanence of power stirred fear. Perhaps the
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Republic would have endured longer had I left room for a different succession. That's very good.
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Okay, we're going to finish now. We're going to go to a scientific character,
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person of history, and we'll talk about Madame Curie, do you know who she is?
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Yes, I do. I will adopt the... Yes, continue. You adopt it, and we'll just go actually to
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the first question. When you were doing your experiments and your research, did you know about
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the risks of radiation? At the time of my research, we did not fully comprehend the dangers of
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radiation. We knew these elements were powerful, but their harmful effects on health became a
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current only gradually. I worked with Radium Daily, unaware of the true long-term consequences.
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Perina, now in terms of doing this roleplay of this discussion historical figure,
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can you actually do a famous voice or voice as close as possible to Madame Curie?
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I can certainly adjust my tone to sound softer and more reflective, aligning with how one might
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imagine Marie Curie. While it will still be my voice, I will aim to evoke a thoughtful and
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calm manner, shitty her character. You need to give me an example now, telling us what she thought
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was the greatest worth in that new voice. I always believed that our discovery of Radium and
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Pallonium was of great significance, not merely for its scientific novelty, but for the promise
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it held in medical applications. The work, though arduous, illuminated a new field, radiation
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that could alleviate suffering. Very good, I'm going to pause you here.
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So, I do. Of course, I am here when you are ready to continue or shift direction.
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Yeah, there we go, very handy. Like I said, so these conversations are naturally
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can get a lot of information very quickly, very handy and very flexible. It does, like I said,
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work on the desktop version as well. You can use the microphone with a desktop app.
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An issue with that, obviously, the voice doesn't match. So, you don't get that in motion.
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So, if you're watching a movie or some other description, the difference is the students can actually
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get very specific content and information back that they're actually asking. So, for a research
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project, it's actually really good. They'll need to know down or, as I showed, when you actually go
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out of voice, it actually does keep a transcript of the entire conversation so they could access it then
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and work with it. Now, what should we do as teachers by doing that?
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What we really want to do is once they've done this transcript, if the students will
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should then go away and double-check with other sources, serve the history context,
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other sources that make sure they collaborate with what AOA said under their persona.
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And that's a really good skill to learn for them to decide what's real and what's not,
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and particularly from the historical context. So, this is like a secondary source coming out,
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where they could go look at primary sources coming through that. Now, for, no, I don't really
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speak any other languages, I'll learn Spanish a long time ago, but we'll pretend I'm a Spanish
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student. Okay, I want you to change your persona to a Spanish teacher, and we're going to practice some
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me trying to learn Spanish in a Spanish classroom in this conversation. Do you understand?
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Absolutely, I understand. I will now guide you as a Spanish teacher would,
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focusing on clear examples, addition, and encouraging your practice, ready when you are.
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So, I don't speak much Spanish, but I do know that English.
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And more bien, is that mean? Also, I agree. More bien, is I agree? Is that correct?
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Muy bien. En realidad significa very good or very well.
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Si quisieras decir, I agree, dirías, estoy de acuerdo. No estás haciendo muy bien.
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So, I didn't follow that. Can you give me, I'll give you a word and tell me if I pronounce it correctly,
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or a chicken as polo? Your pronunciation of polo was close.
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Exactly. That's an uns correct now. Keep practicing with confidence.
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Okay, and last year is that church?
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Exactamente, iglesia significa church. Lo has pronunciado muy bien.
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Sí. Por favor, es please. Es una expresión muy útil.
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Okay. Ya tienes una.
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We're going to stop there for a second. So, what you can actually do then?
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Claro. Nos detenemos aquí un momento.
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Cuando estés listo. Continuamos o cambiamos de rumbo.
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Okay. What we're going to do, for example, you can roleplay.
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I'm not going to do it very well. Just say ordering in a French restaurant.
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I want you to give me a situation where we're in a French restaurant in Paris,
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and I want you to offer to take my, you have just bought my food out to me,
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and I'm just going to say thank you to that. Can you please say something in French?
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Wait for me to respond in a polite way.
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So, I'm going to mute that again so I won't listen to it.
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So, this is how we can use languages as well.
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Do that. Now, I think that's very powerful because you can get a tutor in,
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and you can see here it in practice. So, do go away and actually give that a go.
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I'd say, beginning with other ideas, I think these are two really basic tools you can actually use
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on that. What we do is when we stop the conversation, I press stop, and see here,
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the whole conversation is obviously reversed in the camera, but the whole conversations that
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we've had is stored here. You then go through and export that if you want and have that conversation.
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Use those resources, including the language, where we look at the language. It's actually
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written it in, you can't see it here, but it's actually written it in the language of Spanish,
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in this case, or French as well. So, they can then see what they're actually saying in the language
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and see how it's actually written. I find the translation fairly good. I used it when I was a
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holiday in Japan just about 12 months ago. I could put it into here and I could show it to the
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people. In Japanese, particularly when we got sick, we had to go to the doctor who didn't speak
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in English. It works really well, better than Google Translate did, but obviously,
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needing internet access. So, this is a way of using voice activation in the classroom.
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I think is a big step forward. I think there's some considerations of using this in the classroom,
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mainly because if you got lots of people talking, you might want to get things on
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microphones or headsets or students with their own laptops or children's small groups,
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as well, to minimize the noise within the classroom or somewhere where you can spread out.
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I hope you've found this useful, this actual practical demonstration. I'll be using this app.
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And using the voice, and now it's been around for a long time, I've mentioned some of my early
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things, but just saying in practice, I think it's a good way to remind you that this is what it's
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actually possible, something you can do with the tool. Then, keep up the good work. I'll catch you