An Arkansas Family Haunting, Part Two | Grave Talks CLASSIC

0:00Welcome to part two of our interview with Wesley Fox about a haunting in Arkansas a haunting of his home And thank you for being a grave keeper supporting our program and keeping us on the air Which right after Jim moved Carol's husband Ross He he promised dad that he was gonna be over like that. I think it was that Tuesday So like I mean like three days from this point that he could over that Tuesday and help dad fix the earth before he went to work because over By were the master bedroom window was that part of the roof was like, I don't know There's starting a lot is what was because it was near so old So dad was gonna you know fix that but he needed help. I mean so Ross promised him I will be there You know no matter what that day count them and 12 o'clock it's when Ross was be there and he's not there and 12 15 12 20 dad starting to get really really angry dad's At a very short these quick temper

1:00Following after about 12 30 dad grabs his last T and just kind of slams it and sink of course last goes everywhere He goes well, you know forget this. I'll just you can't rely on other people and I can't I'm not gonna go with the language That said but he had a big old nice tire wheels calling all kinds of names and Dad, you know said he's gonna go he had to have this I don't know what about the huge piece of wood that he had to carry up the ladder And you know he needed help to do it But now he was so mad he's gonna do it himself and he tried you know Mary tried to help him like that You know let me help and dad just like that. There's no matter there's nothing you can do to help me And of course Mary's crying and scared because you know she's not want dad to get hurt and at the same time her feelings are hurt because you know dad Would let her help but he's carrying this huge piece of wood up the ladder all by himself and then a part of and during As Mary is watching her during part of it He said it looked like almost like dad almost like was pushed and you know It was confirmed later that dad felt like something you know pushed him with that piece of normal

2:01It almost made him fall off backwards in the ladder But he's able to catch himself And he was able to do the roof now the incident really didn't end there because I think two days go by and you know We haven't seen Ross. We haven't seen Carol and of course me. Mary hasn't had seen Lisa So mom dad started worries like okay. What's wrong with them? So after work? After dad got off work, you know We decided to drive to their house, which is in Rogers just like five miles away to check on them we got there and And I know Ross told daddy was Jesse. I he goes. I'm so sorry. I didn't show up But because I went out to go help you and I had four flat tires on my car And he starts you know walking bad around the car showing the tires and Each tire had the same cut mark like in the same spot and tire and awful tires Now how is that possible? Yeah, and and dad and it was almost like something was trying to keep fast from helping dad that day

3:01So that's the only thing remotely good ever having Ross to the roster believe in any of that He was one of the people at the canary making fun of my mom and dad So I think I got to the point where my sister bar moved in am I correct? Yes Okay, so barbs moved in Things really ramp up when bar moves in so bad, you know mom and dad know something's happened because now mom She's starting to hear voices she woke up a few days after bar moved in And she heard voices and and the voices said We'll get the one looking down the hall and the other one too and mom knew She was the one one looking down the hall because you know at night the way the way the bed was She could look out the door and you could see down the hall mom was always said it was like She always felt like there was someone someone watching us. So she was always looking down the hall So when she heard those voices you know that kind of confirmed to her something was wrong. Yeah, and then I put in a day or two of that Probably the next day or something or the day after probably mom

4:02woke up a little bit extra you know a little bit early for work and she was scared She didn't know why but you know she Hurryed up and got downstairs Got her lunch together and within like this is only down there for 10 minutes she heard up and went to the Set outside on the porch waiting for Waiting for her ride because she felt too scared to actually be in the house and I want to say either right before that or right after that She'd woke up, you know to get her lunch together Everyone's gone and all of a sudden she hears this like big slam like something just slam down And she looked around looked around couldn't find nothing and there was nothing to fall or nothing So that kind of spoof mom and when her ride got through that day she went You know her and her ride after she got in the car they smell like a man's Aftershave or something

5:03And then it was like almost with them the whole Whole car ride and it kind of disappeared as they got out and walked into their To the plant that they were working at so that day they felt like they kind of had a hitchhiker if you know what I mean sure and then So those so things were ramping up like that and then with dad Once again one morning he woke up Shaven and this was right when at the same time He was shaven and he seemed this Blue white once again that blue ball and This time when he come downstairs he knew that something was there, you know He he he knew he was not had not been drinking at all So I mean he knew this was not his mind point tricks with everything else this kind of finally convinced him That maybe maybe we need to do something So dad suggested for mom since she had the day off that day for her to have Barber and her boyfriend Ralph take her Or to the you know local church so that day, you know they go to the church and

6:08My mom, you know she talked to one of the it was a Baptist preacher and she tells him that you know Hey, we live in this house over here. We're having some issues Can you help and the guy laughs at her? He goes, you know ghost going this ghost her like Like cartoon characters. It's only in your imagination. My mom was pissed Imagine letting him have it. Yeah, she told him often several different ways. He did say well You know, it's the only thing I can tell you to do is get your Bible and read out And he said and it'll be in in red where Jesus is talking So read that out loud So I want to say later that night we did the prayer That that preacher said and then I think we did it again a couple hours later because they helped and then things started right back up getting You know twice as bad So mom had Ralph read out of the Bible again and this time as he started to read you seem the Bible just like Get flowing out of out of his arm and he starts grabbing his hand in pain

7:10And he says it feels like something just stabbed me And come to find out Right before the Bible went flying out of the hand Something told him shut the Bible And then that's when something stabbed you in it the Bible went flying so now things were bad Obviously and what what occurs at this point when things are getting so bad there's physical violence happening with forces that can't be seen now Go forward about two days and it's on a Sunday That mom your mom's telling My dad, you know listen, we we got to call your sister My aunt at the time was she wasn't a paranormal investigator, but she was you know intuitive for sure I mean she knew things and could see some things But you know she had a lot of knowledge as well On the paranormal and stuff like that so you know dad's like no, I'm not calling. I'm not calling girls, you know Carol it's it's gonna be fine, but finally

8:12Care my mom. She's like listen, you know, there's things that I have not told you that happened and mom started telling him some different stuff It happened to Lisa Which one of the things that that I forgot about Is a couple days before this Lisa was throwing her baby stroller, you know in that little circle last time About from the living room the French stores, you know kitchen And her mom worked just kind of like playing like almost like a peekaboo game And then finally, you know Lisa stopped coming around so mom was like okay, what's going on? And then all of a sudden she heard Lisa scream like bloody murder so she hurries up When goes looking for it and found the stroller in the kitchen and then Lisa she Spound Lisa trying to get in the oven like something was getting her so bad that she was trying to get away from it So dad didn't know about that. So mom told her about telling about that And then finally knew my dad He's believing it and he's angry he stands up and His exact words he said it's bad enough that you have to pick on my wife and my kids He said but God damn you league my grandchildren alone and about that time that you know have we have the dish rack and the dishes and the dish rack kind of shook

9:20And I'm mom grabbed my dad real quick so come on Jesse. Let's go over here to the plant and call your sister Let's go now. So you know they went over and called my aunt and And My aunt she lived in Longton Kansas at the time, which is about a hundred fifty miles away or so and When my dad called I said you know one thing he said is I need I need you to come down here and Course near my aunt wouldn't do it and so my dad actually told her what was going on He goes I don't know if we're crazy or what's going on, but I just need you to help help me out So my aunt you know talk to her husband see what his work schedule was and they figured out that they could come down You know that night after he got off work But it just be about like a 24-hour trip, you know real pretty real quick So my aunt comes down that night she gets there about 2.33 a.m You know carols there waiting on her mom my mom dad or what first sleep I'm asleep But my uncle and my brother Jess my oldest brother, you know nothing ever happened to him. He was barely there

10:27But he happened to be over there that night and he goes outside and helps my uncle with my aunt and then she brought her son and her sons Why at the time with them as well and they were all outside Getting the stuff when my aunt was in the kitchen by herself my sister Carol went up to wake all of us up So my aunt sitting standing there in the kitchen by herself and all of a sudden she felt something lift up her ponytail Just gonna lift it up and then set it back down You know not knowing any of the stories she thought maybe it was like a moth or maybe something like that Sure, but she figured it out Once you heard about the man with a cane that he kind of lifted his her ponytail up the cane and set it down almost like like a Caught in her a little bit But almost immediately when mom mom and dad come down You might have to go to bathroom. So she asked my mom to show her what the bathroom was and my sister Mary and mom accompany her to the upstairs bathroom and they said you know we'll go up here with you

11:31We'll stand outside by the door. We do everything in twos now because you know It's just not safe to do things by yourself So as my aunt my aunt is in the bathroom Doing her business from a heat vent she starts hearing a chanting sound She couldn't understand what it was what it was doing what was saying But you know it fighting her enough where she tried to hurry up into her business and then Going down the stairs when they were going back down going into the dining room to set and talk my aunt She said there's she goes she was just scared that something was gonna try to push her down the stairs Said she didn't know why but she just had that feeling while they got downstairs safely and They're downstairs Talking telling my aunt about some of the stuff and my dad, you know tells his sister my aunt Mary that you know Hey, I'm gonna go upstairs. I'm gonna get Wesley Because you know why don't we move there by itself? So they bring me downstairs with them. I'm still sleeping. You know I think I woke up long enough to talk a little bit behind that palm back asleep because I had to go to school the next day, but

12:36My dad after you know, he got me situated. He says starts telling some of the stuff And he said, you know I'm right before we've been I When we had a barbecue a guy said something to me and my mom says yeah, Jesse He said it was just crazy locals and my dad chick is said goes now. He goes. I'm sorry. He said but that guy said If you love your wife and kids You will move out of that house now that house needs to run to the ground is what that man told my dad that night that day at the barbecue And my dad felt so bad because you know, he didn't tell anybody he didn't say anything until that day But dad's told everything you were telling aunt my aunt at this point everything that's going on with everybody Maybe for too long dad has to go back upstairs and try to get a couple hours sleep before he asked me at work And he asked my sister Mary to sit up there with him Well, he sleeps for her to read because you know once again didn't know and wanted to do anything along everyone was scared Everyone was scared at this point except for Mary Mary was the one that wasn't scared

13:39Which was weird because Mary was really scared and then all of a sudden she's not scared You know what I mean? Yeah, what is the reason for that? We really don't know except for my aunt In the end that she thinks Something that house was trying to possess her okay It's like trying to break down her free will and was getting her to that point Mm-hmm They think if we would have stayed another night in that house that she probably would have So is that is that the point where you decide to leave or the family decides to leave? How does the how does the Exodus occur? This is kind of part what kind of what the Exodus is starting because you know, he wanted my aunt's opinion After my dad goes to bed my aunt would go get her a cup of coffee every now and then you know And there was a door that was shut off the hallway now my aunt on you know, she had the door shut And then she went and get another cup of coffee in the door was open so she's like, oh, okay. We'll see here So she went in there and all purposefully you know just kind of get up Make sure the door shut Sit down and by time 20 minutes later, you know

14:43Get some more copies she got up and the door was open again and she said Now again, you keep this door shut And the door number opened up again the rest of the night But if they're not at the same time as they were in their talk and she they would see a dark her to figure That dark could have figured was seen a couple different times And then I think after dad went to work the next day Mom mom stayed home that day from work and it might I think it was one of her days off the time It was on it. They were in four days a week, but so my aunt was with with my mom a lot that day She got to see a lot of the different stuff that was going on so and I know oh my aunt went upstairs with with my sister Mary I mean this was probably a couple hours before my aunt was getting ready to leave Mary had to get some laundry together, you know and Kate at that point it was just in case we were gonna leave that night So my aunt went up there with her and they're looking My aunt's just kind of looking around and she sees different candles my sister had which is Neil white candles nothing bad

15:48But my aunt was kind of skulling their little bits and hey you got to watch out, you know Burn it candles in this house because you know what cuz it'll catch fire real quick So they went ahead My aunt from where she was at she's seen something underneath my my sister's bed. She's like hey, what is this? There's people like a like a almost like a big throw rug The little bed so they can lift up that throw rug and there's a pentagram That was carved into the wood and my aunt's like oh my god. That's not good and about that time They hurry up. It's like okay. Well, we gotta get out of here. You know come on Mary. Let's go and about that time my aunt She like she can't talk she can't you know she can't breathe can't be nothing and she's being like something pushing her backwards out of the room and It took her a minute to get my sister Mary's attention when she got Mary's attention You know she was almost upstairs and my sister is kind of able to grab her so she didn't fall down the stairs But they were able to get out of that ring And that's my aunt knew 100% cold. Hardly. We've got to get out now

16:55You know that we cannot stay another night that house that kind of did it in right there But it was probably a couple but but They decided I want to say it was an hour before we left It would be for my aunt left. They you know my uncle was Trying to let him take a nap. So he'd get ready for work And I think I was through it. I was possibly still at school, but mom Aunt Mary Mom Aunt Mary Mom Aunt Mary and and Mary All three walked up to the store because we lived oh Maybe two blocks from like a little convenience store and They walked down there when they get back my aunt noticed my uncle looked like he was dreaming. Okay, and they They decided that you know Like you know, well, what why is his eyes moving like that like he's you know dreaming something really weird

18:00But you know my aunt is lame sleep and they went and talked they were talking about the different stuff in the house And then all of a sudden, you know My uncle woke up and they didn't know he woke up and he said hey You're talking about the woman and hunger self in the stairwell right and everyone looking him like what the heck did that come from? Because yeah, he goes I heard you guys talking about you're talking about the woman and herself in the stairwell For the guy that was shot over here and went together like what are you talking about? That was some dream you had, you know, and he goes no he goes I heard you guys talking You guys and they said you also was telling me that That there was another spirit that was invited in but but he but he's the mean one Is what my uncle said a woman was telling him? But he thought it was like Mary or mom. You know somebody like that come to find out these things were basically having a conversation with him when he was sleeping and my uncle You know uncle John did not believe any of this stuff even to the day he passed away This last summer he did not believe that it was probably shortly after that when another incident

19:05But at least it happened during the same day this day was quite positive worst day on earth for my family. They bring little east over and Something happens to her there in the kitchen to where the eyes on the tapestry my mother had they had they had to tend to see that house to follow you Like if you move to the left the eyes of the left, you know but Something was scared Lisa when like my Aunt Mary noticed her Lisa's eyes would look up at the tapestry and then she looked down But all of a sudden Lisa started crying and screaming and trying to get out You know get out the front door as quickly as she could so everyone ended up taking her outside and she was just crying Screaming even outside so finally Carol said, you know Aunt Mary. I'm sorry. She goes, but you know I can't get Lisa to settle down. I got I got to take her home So they took her home and right as my aunt was getting ready to leave like within 20 minutes Carol says me Ross more really pissed off and angry you guys are just trying to scare my daughter to go blah blah this house ain't haunted you guys were all crazy and full of it You know those kinds of things so following my mom said Ross

20:06If you if that's what you think you get your sorry, you know But you go up in that attic you tell me if anything happens to you or you should scared to go up there So Ross had my cousin broke their with him in the attic I have no idea really what happened my cousin Johnny didn't see anything and Ross would never talk about it He'd never spoke about it He come down set at the kitchen table and he was white as a ghost and my mom noticed it and My mom you know she's a lot like me. She taught in hell I mean So Ross let's have saying haunted are you sure Ross? Ross, but I just left But it was probably like within an hour that my dad got up work or had a break and My aunt was leaving and he got to call and say goodbye and she said Jesse he goes you guys are not crazy But you do not need to stay another night in this house if you do you know something something bad's gonna happen I think it's after Mary So that night we left the house and never returned

21:06It didn't follow us But you know, I don't know much no much more time we have but it follows in other ways how much time do we have we're about ready to wrap it up Because we're pretty much at the time right now But we can certainly you know discuss some of the ways that it followed you in another interview at some point Yeah, that would have to be a part two because I can go into the the aftermath and then what I think what totally Beat the house once and for all sure and that was an extra system I performed in 2017 at the actual house It was an act the actual house. Okay, it was the house after we moved out and There there was I think three more families moved in One family I got about five minutes, right sure So there's one family moved in they were a young couple that you know that at the time We're kind of giving giving bad a lot of crap about you know the house not being haunted blah blah blah and

22:10They were there for about a week and then one day after Halloween Maybe two weeks. So it was after Halloween dad Came in for working and he seemed that the lady was sitting outside. So dad when we were talking a minute So hey, how are you guys doing? She said we're fine He goes hey, how'd you Halloween party go? And she said we had our invited guests and then she just continued to cry and that was it never found out what happened Right after they moved out another family moved in they were there for maybe three weeks and one of the Relatives when the older relatives was pushed down the stairs by something so they didn't stay Now there was at least one other family that I got in touch with Kind of by accident that I didn't even know but they wouldn't have for quite a while They really didn't have any issues, but they didn't do any of the Fixing up and restoring that we were doing and that might have been why When you're not sure exactly exactly if they were there right before us or right after when you left the house

23:10Did I mean assuming did you go back and get your belongings or was it like amity feel good else? It was since Mary was the only one that was not scared You know she was more willing to go get all you know pack everything up And that agreed to it as long as and you know dad worked right next door so dad that knew You know when it was started right before it got dark dad would go there and make sure That she was in the car and they were going home So that you know Mary Mary did do that and then of course we had About a truck and when I never got stuff during the daytime, you know to finish it all off. Yeah But you know even through when the house was still there even when it was empty Mike my aunt will come down for a visit and you know they'd kind of drive around the property the house just for for the heck of it just to see and Several there's at least one time that there's a they seem a lady white kind of follow them Then they'd steer in each like window the attic upstairs windows like follow them as they were driving away And there was even one time they tried to drive away and something was like holding the car back

24:13Well, they couldn't move and then finally the car went and they never went back after that Retrospectively looking at this whole thing. What do you think it was that was in that house? That house definitely had demons There's a spirit There was a spirit of a lady there and she was the one that hung herself in the stairwell There was the spirit of the man that You know that you'll be able to cane which that man After doing research we found out there was a man you know or as a young man though He was kicked in the kneecap by a mule So he had to walk with the cane all his life that same man And the upstairs master bat or master bedroom. He was shot in the face with a double-brill shotgun And of course that's how he died And the night early 1920s in that house there was a Satanic cult that performed rituals in the attic. We found that out which that's how the demonic spirit was invited And that's why it was there

25:14And then you know the little girl my aunt would have dreams about that little girl that I've seen She'd have a dream where she's walking all the way through the house and then all of a sudden she said as she gets down And the at the bottom stair Since you'd see this little girl standing on the on the like I don't know which of the landing out of the stairs I guess and she said that the face they would go from a girl to a boy and then the something else Boy girl something else is just kind of constantly changing and it would say I fooled you I fooled you all Which makes sense now because my research I found out there was a girl named door Dean that As a young girl had polio and had braces and lived in that house But she didn't die until just a few years ago So that was a demon playing on the past You know me that wraps up part two of our interview with Wesley Fox about a haunting an Arkansas And the terrorizing experience he and his family went through Until next time for the Grave Talks. I'm Tony Bruce. Thank you

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