Anti-Blackness And White Silence (Aka Endorsement Of Racism)

0:00I think what you're trying to ask is why am I so insistent upon giving out to them that blackness, that black power, that black pushing them to identify with black culture. I think that's what you're asking. It's, I have no choice over in the first place. To me, we are the most beautiful creatures in the whole world, black people. I mean, and I mean that in every sense, outside and inside. And to me, we have a culture that is surpassed by, by, by, by no other civilization, but we don't know anything about it. So again, I think I said this before in the same interview, I think at some time before, my, my job is to somehow make them curious enough or persuade them by a hookah club to get more aware of themselves and where they came from and what they are into

1:01and what is already there and just to bring it out. This is what compels me to compel them. And I will do it by whatever means necessary. The following episode of the Politicrant Daily Podcast contains foul language. List and discretion is advised. Welcome to the Politicrant. I know more more. It is Wednesday, September the 9th, 2000 and 26 on this edition of the Politicrant. Anti-blackness. I'll be talking about that and more

2:04coming up next. This vote in November is not about the next four years. It's about the next 40 years. Let me take you back to Constitution and Governance. The President of the United States has the authority to place men and women as judges all across the district courts, the appellate court and the Supreme Court. This current President in his four years has appointed more judges than every other president except Jimmy Carter. In four years, President Donald Trump has appointed 198 judges to the bench, two to the Supreme Court, some 50 plus to a pellet court,

3:08and the rest to district court. And many of those appointees will sit as justices of judgment for the rest of their lives. 100 and 98 judges have been appointed by this President. Do you know how many of those 198 appointees are black? Do you know how many of the 198 appointees of this President are of color? Of the 198 judges that this President has placed on the bench? Not one of them is black. Not a single black face sitting as a judge under this President. A hundred and 98 judges and not one of them is black.

4:10Hey, we're stop filming. Greetings and salutations dear listener. Welcome to another edition of the political crack brand spanking new on this hump day Wednesday September the 9th, 2026. I hope you're well dear listener. How are you feeling today? As we get into the meat and potatoes of September, if you will, this is supposed to be a really hot day today. So I do hope that you are cooling down as best you can in this very hot day. It is a hot day actually. So wherever you are in the world, I do hope that you are finding some cool weather. I know you may love this weather, but for some people this weather is extremely dangerous. A lot of heat advisories here, for example, in San Francisco,

5:11California and elsewhere across the world. So I want you to be careful with all this climate change, just global warming. We've seen what's happened in Nepal. Some incredible stories of heroism and people have survived, survivors who have been trapped in mud and muck for days and days and have been rescued and rescued alive. And those stories are very inspirational. Talks about the human spirit. It's a testimony to the human spirit. There are thousands of people in the pool who unfortunately were not so fortunate. And so you have to pay tribute to them as well. And all of the people who have done the rescuing of people's lives. So again, in Nepal, we see the effects of climate change and global warming and elsewhere across the globe as well. So I do hope that again that you are well. Remember that tough times do not last tough people like you do. And I wanted to talk as well

6:12on this Wednesday about some of the things that have been going on before I get to anti-blackness. And I guess this would be part two of what I was saying during yesterday's episode of this podcast. So I'll get to that in a few minutes. But first, one of the things that happened yesterday since I did the previous episode of this podcast, which was aired yesterday, was that Brett Kavanaugh of the Supreme Court, and I was really surprised by this, ruled against the Republicans who had appealed the Missouri Supreme Court decision that came down last Friday that said that the maps in Missouri that the Republicans jerrymandered illegally, quite frankly racist jerrymandering, that those maps were to be thrown out and disregarded and could not be used for the 2026 November midterms. That's what a Missouri Supreme Court ruled last Friday. Now, what the Supreme Court did was to what the Republicans did was to go up to the Supreme Court and ask them,

7:17hey, look, we need to use these jerrymandered maps for the November midterms. And Brett Kavanaugh individually responded and said, you know, want by order of this court, you can't do that. In a nutshell, that's what he said. And then he gave further rationale to that. The rationale for was, hey, look, you know, the voters of Missouri have a referendum on the table and they have to first vote on that referendum to whether or not to eliminate those maps, whether to eliminate those jerrymandered maps that you already want to have put in place for November or whether or not to get rid of, you know, keep those maps, you know, or put those maps in play. So Brett Kavanaugh was telling the Republicans yesterday in his decision, look, the voters of the state need to have their say first on the maps that you want to have put in for the November midterms. And you have to allow the voters of the state of Missouri to actually vote on whether or not they want your racist jerrymandered.

8:21He didn't say the racist racist I did, whether or not you want the racist, they want the racist jerrymandered maps to begin with. You have to let due process happen. You have to let the voters decide that for themselves one way or the other. So in a rare show of deference to democracy of the God's sakes, the fascist Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who had never seen the decision that was anti-democracy that he didn't love, decided for a change to decide to, oh, I better just ruin the side of democracy for once. Oh, okay. And I was wondering last night what they put in Brett Kavanaugh's cocoa. What did they put in his oval team? What did they put in his whiskey or his bourbon? Because, geez, whatever it was, for a few minutes he saw the light and decided to rule in the way that makes a whole lot of sense to me. So it was a big victory for the Democratic party in Missouri for the people of Missouri, really first and foremost, and a massive slapdown of

9:26Missouri Republicans who just could not believe, quite frankly, nor can I and I'm not a Republican, could not believe that Brett Kavanaugh came to his senses for a few minutes. Quick, quick, quick, before he changes his mind. So that was a big piece of news yesterday that the United States Supreme Court under an order from Brett Kavanaugh said that the Missouri Republicans could not use the illegal Jerrymandered maps, the racist Jerrymandered maps for the November midterms. That's a huge victory for the state of Missouri, the people of Missouri, huge victory. So what is going to happen now as a result is that indeed the people of Missouri, this coming November 3rd or earlier, will get to vote on whether or not to have these Jerrymandered Republican Jerrymandered maps that favor obviously the Republicans, whether or not to have those for the next election after, in

10:31other words, for 2028 elections. And we all know, dear listener, that the voters in Missouri are going to vote that down. They're going to totally vote no on having Jerrymandered maps for the 2028 elections because that's what they would be voting for. That's what they would be, that's what the vote would be in this November. It wouldn't be the maps being put in place because you've trampled all over democracy there. You've not allowed people to have this say. That's really what Brett Kavanaugh is saying and what he said last night in his ruling. So really, I think a tremendous victory. That is a very good piece of news. But as I always say, and as I said last night, you have to always tread on egg shells when the Supreme Court decided something that's positive for everybody because you know, five minutes later with the next decision they have, most likely it's going to be something that goes the opposite way. And now I'm holding my breath to see, I'm not holding my breath literally, but I'm really wondering now what the Supreme

11:32Court's going to do with the mail-in ballot situation because that situation needs to be dealt with. And obviously, we've already had North Carolina send out all their mail-in ballots. They've sent those out to voters across the state of North Carolina. They did that last Friday. So the question now becomes, what is the Supreme Court going to say regarding mail-in ballots at the United States Postal Service? Because as you know, Deel listener, those ballots are going out. In fact, today, I think their ballots going out either in Washington state or in some other state. So West Virginia, maybe I forget which state. But so these ballots already going out. And for the Supreme Court, if they were to rule, oh, you've got to stop doing that. The Supreme Court says that you can't do this. You've got to abide by this new, flawed system, anti-democratic system that the Postal Service is putting into play. You've got to wait for that. No, it's going to be total chaos. And that will really screw things up. So I don't think,

12:36you know, I would like to believe that the Supreme Court is going to do the right thing. But you can't trust this particular Supreme Court as you know. And the Supreme Court historically has done the wrong thing in this country. There's been about 15 decisions where the United States Supreme Court, I can count them, have done the right thing. But mostly, the time the United States Supreme Court in its iteration and its history has done the wrong thing. Dread Scott, for example, Plessy versus Ferguson, for example, Citizens United for example, Bush v. Gore, for example, the Cal A decision, for example, I can go on and on and on, Shelby versus Holder. Right, I can go on and on and on, the Dobbs decision. I can go on and on and on with the vast majority of Supreme Court's Buckley versus Vallejo. I can go on and on and on with the majority of the decisions that the United States Supreme Court has made in its history. That show that they've done the wrong thing. And there's about 15 to 20 decisions where they've actually done the right thing. I rattled off what about eight decisions just now alone. But they really got things wrong and I can rattled off eight where they didn't, you know,

13:40Grisrod versus Connecticut, Lugging versus Virginia, Brown versus Board of Education, of Topeka, Kansas, you know, the Rovers' way decision. And I can go on and on about ones that they got things right in. But the Ogrebefell decision that came out in 2015, I can talk about all of those too. But there, in my view, more Supreme Court decisions where the Supreme Court got things horrendously wrong than they have been where the Supreme Court got things horrendously right. So just wanted to start with that. I think that was a tremendous decision. But again, you know, maybe Brett Kavanaugh will change his mind, you know, who knows. But that was a real surprise. They did not figure that Brett Kavanaugh would see the light at all there. But I don't want to give him too much credit because again, he'll probably return to the racist and fascist that he is. So who knows. The next decision might be his on the mail-in ballots. Who knows. But it's hard to predict. You think that the Supreme Court is going to give Donald Trump

14:46some kind of bone that he can know on. But I have a feeling that they're not going to decide fully in favor of him. They're going to probably work out something where he gets a little, gets to do a little bit of this. But there's some kind of restrictive qualifying circumstance. But the Supreme Court will find where the Postal Service can only do what it's doing under some very, very strict tight guidelines. It's either a kind of compromising middle of the road decision or it's a decision that says, no, you can't do this. But I do not think that the Supreme Court, and listen to me, maybe I'm drinking something too. I do not think at this time on this day, on the 9th of September of 2026 that the Supreme Court is going to say, okay, Donald Trump and the US Postal Service, you can do this car blanche. I don't think they're going to do that. But hey, I've been wrong before. I mean, the Supreme Court did the right thing earlier this year when it did the birthright citizenship and said, no, birthright citizenship is still allowed in this country and

15:50we're not going to change that. I think that was a five to four decision or a six to three decision. I forget which or whatever it was. But that was a very clear signal sent back then. But the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court, the six fascist sitting on that Supreme Court have almost always ruled in Donald Trump's favor. Apart from that decision with the birthright citizenship and the decision that they made, of course, in 2024 when Trump wasn't even in office that gave him caught blanche power to basically become a king, to become a king. But the birthright citizenship decision and the decision about the tariffs back in February when they slapped his ass down on the tariffs and said, no, you can't do this. This is illegal. You can't do this. You can't do these international tariffs. Those two decisions, the tariff decision plus the birthright citizenship decision are the only

16:50two decisions that I can remember that the Supreme Court actually slapped Trump down. On most of these other ones, they did not. They allowed him to do whatever the fuck they wanted him to do. They wanted him to do. So they gave him caught blanche. So there you go. Dear listener, thank you very much indeed for being here. That's really the news I wanted to focus on. And there's lots of other news out here, obviously. I want you to keep black lives in your heart and soul in mind. I want you to keep in mind black people and I want you to focus on our lives and I want you to stand with us. And I want you to remember that there are still many, many unsolved, what I would call lynchings of black people. There are still many black people who are being lynched across this country in 2026. And I do not want anyone to start talking about whether it's happening in the south. It's

17:54really in the south where this is happening. It's happening all over the country. It's happening here in California. There is literally less than 90 miles from here, about 91 miles actually from here. A place where a black person two years ago was found lynched, found hanging. And in most of these cases across the country, overwhelmingly the police, whether they're in California, whether they're in Texas or Florida or New York, because yes, in Manhattan, there was a black person found lynched there. Literally in Manhattan, for God's sakes, about a year or two ago or during COVID as well, I think as well. In all these cases, the police or the course of the country have been very quick to say, oh, no foul play, the person committed suicide. And we are quick to respond and tell these police and anyone else who will listen is that black people do not hang themselves. And black people do not hang themselves from trees. They don't. They really don't. And there's a black police chief

18:57I think in Raleigh North Carolina who and I played that press conference here and I stupidly said, well, that, well, he has video evidence. That means it must be true. And I really amend my comment from that particular episode of this podcast because even if you've got video evidence, we need to see that, wouldn't we? As graphic as it might be. But black people do not hang themselves from trees. And it's important, dear listener, whoever you are to recognize that black people do not do this to themselves. And if you're white listening to this now, you need to make clear to anyone who will listen, that black lives matter and that you're going to do the actual work, to give voice to those black people out in the world who are under attack. I want you to stand with

20:00those black people. I want you to stand with Hakeem Jeffries. Even if you don't like Jeffries, I want you to make it clear that racist attacks on anyone in this case specifically black people, in this case specifically, representative Hakeem Jeffries are unacceptable. And if you as a white person cannot bring yourself to say that on your social media page or your sub-stack or to anyone face to face, if you cannot say that as a white person, you too are a racist because it's very, very clear that any kind of racism, any anti-black racism in particular, needs to be called out and condemned. And you don't have to agree with the politics of somebody who

21:04is being attacked in a racist way in order to recognize that the anti-black racist attack against them is indeed racist and is indeed wrong. I think it comes from the auction block. It comes from things very difficult for people to articulate or to define or to face. And it seems to me that it's a little paradoxical because the European two came right here, long-sighted, and don't in generality have a way to determine who they are.

22:06Whereas the black American doesn't know who he is, even when the worse has been said, he knows where he comes from, he knows he's forged another language, he's forged another music, another identity, he's raised his children, and the future belongs to him. To him, I was always talking about what's happening to black people and the black problem. But it occurs to me that he'll be clear in the next 14 years too. He's not really a black problem. We're not the problem. It's a white problem. I don't know if there's any difficulty living in the white world. All things can be considered. And white people don't occupy the center of my attention, you know, feed my nightmares at all. They simply are the other people. But a black person exists as far as I can tell in the white imagination in quite a way. It's such an extent indeed, the person facing the white man, the white woman who the white man is facing is all but invisible,

23:11as Ralph would put it, because the white people carry around their heads. The black people, you see what I mean? The real panic in the world today is that it's just created by the apprehension, the very dim deep apprehension, but it's a real one. That if black people are not the white people said they were, and they're not. Then white people remember they said they were either. And that was as my reality threatened, you know, and that's the real panic in the world today. October the 4th, that is the first voter registration deadline. And if you are in the states of Alaska, Rhode Island or South Carolina, here's a timely reminder for you. October the 4th is the deadline to register to vote for the 2026 November 3rd midterms.

24:13So please remember, Alaskans, those of you in Rhode Island and South Carolinians, that October the 4th is the last day that you can register to vote for the November 3rd, 2026 midterms. For further information and details, please consult the Secretary of State's website in your state. Please do a search, type in Secretary of State for your particular state, and make sure in the search engine results that you look for the abbreviation of your state, and the word SOS or Secretary of State, and the suffix.gov. Because in the search engine results, you might have to go 5 or 10 search results down, or even more than that, before you actually find the Secretary of State's website, which is the official website with the accurate information on it.

25:17You may get these 3rd party websites at the top that may not be accurate. And believe me, there are billionaires spending millions of dollars to make sure that the search for the actual official information is buried deep in the search engine results. So please take extra care to look for the website of either your Secretary of State in your state, or for your Board of Elections County Clerk, and please contact them and get the information. The information I've just given you has been researched directly from those sources, official sources, either by telephone calls I've made, or through the official websites. I suggest that you take careful note of these deadlines. October the 4th is the deadline to register to vote for the November 3rd,

26:202022 midterms if you are in Alaska, Rhode Island, and South Carolina. So remember, for further details on all of this, please contact your local Board of Elections County Clerk, or your Secretary of State. Thank you. Those times I had to believe in myself, plus nothing's better than proving people wrong. Make a list of the things you love about yourself. They can be big or small. Like, I cook a mean chicken pot pie, or I'm a great mom. If you tell yourself enough nice things, eventually you'll believe them too. Go in with confidence. You got in the door because you deserve to be there.

27:24Don't forget that, and don't let it hit you on the way. Welcome back. Last night I did a substack life presentation that went on for four and a half hours, which actually was shorter than the tennis match between Carlos Alcaraz and Ben Shelton. Ben Shelton won that tennis match as a marathon match in New York City. It was 3.30 in the morning when Ben Shelton finally put away Carlos Alcaraz in the US open staggering. By then I had safely been sleeping, but long before then I had been doing a substack that went on for four and a half hours. It's unbelievable. Talking about the topic that I'm going to talk about again today, which is

28:24anti-black racism, and also talking about voter registration, which I talked about, talked about yesterday on the episode, yesterday of this podcast. If you missed yesterday's episode of the Politicar, please do listen to it. That would be Tuesday, September the 8th, 2026. That's the edition of it, where I went into detail about all of the voter registration dates, the 49 states that do voter registration, North Dakota does not do voter registration. I gave you all of those voter registration deadlines for the 49 states and Washington DC. So, I do hope that you go ahead and listen back to that because it's very important. I also did a visual presentation as I said yesterday evening on substack with the same thing plus, and I would urge you to go to substack and watch that. It's long, but it's the first portion of the presentation, which is on popcornareal.substack.com. So, I want you to please go look at that,

29:32watch it, or listen to it. Because it's very important, I gave you all the deadlines for voter registration for those states, 49 states. So, I did that. By the way, there were primaries yesterday in New Hampshire, where John Sanoonu, the son and the former governor, I think, and the son of John Sanoonu senior, and Chris, I forgot his last name, not MEP and Pratt, I forget what it's not Chris Pratt. Chris, somebody else ended up winning on the Democratic side. So, they'll face off for the Senate that will be facing off for the US Senate there in New Hampshire, this coming February coming November for the midterms. But anyway, that's really all you need to know about the primaries in New Hampshire. I think that's the last primary before we get into the midterms season for November. But I did the voter registration presentation yesterday, as well as on this particular podcast. But please subscribe to yours,

30:34TrillionSubs.dike.com. And what I also did on the visual presentation that went on for hours last night was to talk about anti-blackness and Ruler Jibreel, who I talked about here on this podcast yesterday. And very, very, I think I thought some fascinating exchanges amongst people in the chat of the substack life that I did last night that I thought was very illuminating and really revealing about particularly the white people in the chat. None of whom would outright at all say that Ruler Jibreel was racist for what she said about representative Hakeem Jeffries. Not one, not one white person in that substack chat that I did last night. Not one would say it was racist and it was wrong. I think there was one or two people who did I think say it. I don't really, but really, no, actually let me read all that back.

31:39Nobody who came into that chat for the video presentation that I did on a substack last night, not one white person. I mean, the black people in the chat were very clear. You know, every black person in that chat that was racist. That was anti-black racist. That was Ruler Jibreel's racism showing through every black person. All the black women in that chat were very clear on that, obviously. And as was I as a black man, very clear on that when you're calling a black man named Hakeem Jeffries, the congressman out of Brooklyn, New York, when you're calling him an an an APAC monkey. Or when you're calling him an errand boy, we're very clear that that is anti-black racist period full stop. That's racist. Everybody should be clear on that. Every black person was in that chat, but every white person, not not a single one, not a single one, said anything about the anti-black racism of Ruler Jibreel. Not a single one of them,

32:47no white person, for the four and a half hours that I did on that substack video live that I did, that live cast, not a single white person in the chat, said I condemn those remarks, they're racist and Ruler Jibreel should not have said them. Instead, what you got was people, white people apologizing for Ruler Jibreel. Well, she apologized already, well, she said sorry, well, the all the excuses that white people typically make when a black person has been barrage with racist attacks or when a black person experiences racism and anti-black racism, specifically, obviously, the same things happen. And look, I'll say this, you don't know who the heck you're talking to on social media, three quarters of the time. Many people that you're talking to are probably bots. They're probably not actually real people, you know, and there's probably

33:47a handful of people that you talk to on social media who actually are real authentic people. And then they put out videos and you see them, you see their photographs, you see their videos, and then you realize those kinds of people are real. They're actually authentically human beings, they're not anything else, but a human being. But the vast majority of people online don't make videos. The vast majority of people on social media don't make videos. The vast majority of people on social media don't post their photographs. The vast majority of people on social media, to me are not actual human beings. They are bots created by programs and created by troll and bot farms and they're implemented into chats and implemented into social media feeds and on social media accounts completely made up out of whole cloth. And then they do these algorithmic programs and then they act like to have them talk as if they're human and they react to certain things and then the slump that you read in response to your responses makes it clear that these people are not human beings, they're bots, they're programs. That's what social media is. In my view, the

34:52large majority of it is that. So that's my whole thing. You just do not know. But I think for sure, the majority of things or people use things that you see on social media is completely bot-related. And there are human beings who are real because those people show you their face, they show you their photograph, they show you their essay writing, for example, they will post photos or videos of themselves. But my whole point is saying that is, is that not one white person who came into the chat for the four and a half hours I did on the video last night on a sub-stite, not a single one of them condemned Rulage Abriel, not one. And just so that you may need a refresher course on what Rulage Abriel, who builds herself as a scholar and a professor, a visiting professor at the university here in the United States, and who does not talk about how she supposedly has black

35:58roots. But everybody else who was defending her, who apologized for her, seemed to be talking about how she's an Afro-Palestinian woman. Isn't that very interesting? You get real black real quick, don't you, when black folk are attacking your racism. And suddenly now you want to try to make Rulage Abriel out to be some second coming of Angela Davis back in the 1960s and 70s. It's just it's a joke. You want to make Rulage Abriel out to be the second coming of Kathleen Cleaver. I mean that's just a joke. I'm not having that at all. But for those of you do, listener, if that would be you, I would hope, who want a refresher course on what she said. Here is what she said to Wajahat Ali on his program last Friday, I believe it was. And what does the established democratic party, Hakeem Jaffrey by name his name is Hakeem. Hakeem

37:00in Arabic is an Arabic name, which means healer. He's not a healer, he's a diviner. He is bought and paid by A-Vag monkey with all the respect. And I don't mean it in a racist way. He is just basically an errand boy and we're done and tired of that. Now that is a statement that Rulage Abriel made last week on Wajahat Ali show. And then she went into a number of other things as well. And Wajahat Ali spent a few moments saying, well Rulage just to be clear, you are aware that this, what you just said, has a lot of racist connotations to it. It's not connotations, it is blatantly racist. So he kind of gave a soft landing to her and he gingerly told her that this is something that is considered, this has a lot of racist connotations to it. It's not connotations, it's blatantly racist. And again, this is the statement that you just

38:04heard Rulage Abriel make, that no white person during the four and a half hours that I did, yesterday evening on Substack video, would condemn not a single white person, not one. They all either said nothing or explained it away. Oh, she explained herself and all people, white people, all of them, every last one that came into that chat, not a single one of them would condemn that anti-black racism by Rulage Abriel. Those white people in my estimation felt it more important to just say, you know what, well, I don't like Hakeem Jeffries and so I'm not going to condemn the racism. Well, your racist as well, that is the way that I see this. You are also a racist. If you as a white person are more hooked on, well, Hakeem Jeffries gets

39:04money from A-PAC so therefore he can happily get all the anti-black racist attacks on him that the world can offer. You too are a racist. You too would have no problem calling Hakeem Jeffries, the congressman out of Brooklyn, New York, an A-PAC monkey. You are absolutely down with that. And if I were someone in political office and I and I never would do this, and if I was taking A-PAC money, you would be calling me the same thing. So you as a white person who will not condemn what Rulage Abriel said and who will not say that what she said was racist and would not condemn her for that and would not challenge her to be better. You too are down with Rulage Abriel's anti-black racism, which therefore makes you an anti-black racist as a white person. That's what it makes you.

40:10And time after time last night, dear listener, that was what was being offered. All the black people in the chat that I did last night for those four and a half hours were very clear that Rulage Abriel was saying something that she's very comfortable saying. Rulage Abriel had been using this language for years. Of course she had been. Did you hear how she emphasized A-PAC monkey? Did you hear that? You heard the emphasis that she said on monkey. She said this stuff for years. She thinks this way about black people. So if you're black listing to me, she thinks that way about you. She thinks that way about me. She thinks that way about us, all of us as black people. And you can't get away from that fact. And if you're white listing to me and you haven't condemned Rulage Abriel's anti-black racism, you too are an anti-black racist.

41:12If you are aware of what she said and you have not said anything about it on your social media feed or to somebody in person or to Rulage Abriel or to Wajahat Ali or anybody else, whether they're black, white or anything else, you too are an anti-black racist. And it seems very clear to me that only a white person who is silent like this would be that kind of racist. And all the excuses, there was more attention paid to making excuses for Rulage Abriel's racism. Then there was attention paid to attacking Rulage Abriel's anti-blackness. He had white people in the chat, oh well, there was a longer clip of what she said and she apologized and she did this and she did that. And you know, she was talking about monkey-seeing monkey-do. No, she

42:13fucking well wasn't talking about monkey-seeing monkey-do. Not in the moment that she said what she said. Later on, I watched the whole clip, the whole thing, beyond what you just heard me play. And what she said in another clip, in the other clip on another, at another moment, whether it was with Joy Reader with Wajahar Ali, was, oh monkey-seeing monkey-do, but you didn't say that at the time you mentioned what you said while I just played for you. You didn't hear her say monkey-seeing monkey-do in that clip. She was very clear about what she said. She said, A pack monkey and she emphasized monkey. She put the emphasis on it at the beginning of that word. So, this is how she really feels. And again, she also added another word, oh, and I didn't mean it in a racist way, and then she doubled down and then said, errand boy. So there's no mistaking Roologybreel's anti-black racism. No mistake in it. But of course, there's going to be

43:18inevitably white people in a chat who are going to support sanction and approve of anti-black racism. And the thing that white people at large do not understand or don't want to understand, I don't care to want to understand, is that political party allegiance does not ever stop you from a being a racist and be calling out racism. If you are a member of the Democratic Party or someone who votes Democratic in your white and someone who is a Republican who is black, gets racist, invective from somebody who is a Democrat or someone who is a Republican, that is still racism. And you still need to call that out if you claim that you are an anti-racist.

44:24Calling out the anti-black racism by someone does not and should never depend upon whether the person being attacked with that anti-black racism is somehow somebody you like. That should not be the barometer for whether or not you open your big ass yapo and say, hey, look, this is anti-black racist. I don't approve of this. I condemn it wholeheartedly and you need to do some work around this. But you see, that's the fantasy land, the racial fantasy land that many, many white, the vast, vast majority of white people live in, that you've got to be this in this juvenile, childish world where you've got to like this one and not like that one. And this is the, so always how keen Jeffries, well, I don't like him. So I'm not going to say anything. Oh, it's, no, you know,

45:26it's this person, Elon Omar, well, I like her. So I'm going to speak up when she gets racially attacked. Oh, it's, oh, it's someone else, well, I'm not going to say anything. And this has been gone on for centuries, dear listener. And I want you to remember something. When Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was alive, the vast majority of white people in America hated him. He was not liked by the vast majority of white Americans when he was alive. I really need for you, dear listener, to understand that because the way that you would think now and the way that it's sent to you now and betrayed to you now, I'm the media corporate news media is that somehow Dr. Martin Luther King when he was alive was really beloved by white Americans. No, he fucking well wasn't.

46:28Most white people in the United States of America hated and I mean hated Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. While he was alive. And the white people you saw marching with him were probably the only people that really liked him, but the vast majority of white people in the United States of America hated Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. And Malcolm X as well, that will not surprise you either, I'm sure. That certainly won't. But all of this revisionist history, let's pretend that everybody liked, that everybody white may be specific, like Malcolm X or like Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Or loved men get evils or you know, come on now or love, faniloohamer, you know, there were white people in Mississippi, the white Democrats down there, the Dixie Crats who hated her, who wouldn't allow her to sit with their delegation. I mean, come on folks, see this is the thing and this

47:35still continues today obviously. And you're picking and choosing as a white person who you're going to push back on when racist comments are made and who you're not going to, illustrates your own anti-black racism that you have regardless of picking and choosing. You have that. And the thing is every white person on this planet has a form of internalized racism within them. Even if they claim to be anti-racist, you grew up with it in your household, the whole society has a system of whiteness that you support and adhere to and you never challenge. You do not elevate your white privilege for the vast majority of white people don't ever do that. They say that they're not racist, that's what they do. They try to clear their own name. And one of the worst things that the vast majority of white people on this planet do. And certainly in this country do is to send to themselves

48:38when a black person is talking about their suffering and the suffering of their ancestors and talking about how racist the United States of America is or talk about the enslavement of black people for 246 years in this country. Jim Crow for another 95 years in this country. And all of the other systemic racism against black people that has followed throughout right up to this very day. You will have a white person that instantly says, oh, oh, what about me? I'm not someone who's racist. My family is not racist. I didn't do it. My ancestors didn't enslave anyone. But your ancestors not enslave someone is not a response to my suffering or my ancestors suffering. That does not serve to shut up a black person who is talking about their lived experience. And a white person's attempt to trample a black person's lived experience and trample the

49:45expression of that to attempt to shut a black person up is the most racist thing that you can think of in that moment as a white person. That's the most racist thing you can do is to not listen is to start centering your individual self and to start declaring, well, I'm not the one I didn't do this. And white people at large spend much more time centering themselves and being defensive during a conversation where a black person is talking about their lived experience and the history. Then that white person does investing in the time saying, well, I tell you what, I'm going to start to elevate my white privilege to help black people. Or I'm going to raise awareness and I'm going to learn about what my ancestors did or didn't do or learn about

50:50what white ancestors did in this country. I'm going to read books about it. I'm going to do that discovery and exploration and I'm not going to ask you black person about where I can go to get the books. I'm going to actually do that research alone on my own because I'm going to be curious enough to want to know. White people at large do not do that very, very rarely, very rarely. What white people do instead, as I just said, is to spend time centering themselves, spend time defending themselves and to spend time saying, well, I didn't do it. And those white people who do that and it's a vast, vast majority of you if you're white listening to this either don't care or just are completely unaware that what they are doing is racist.

51:55That kind of defensiveness and individualizing and centering yourself and trying to trample the discussion and trample what that black person is saying is in in and of itself a racist act. And it also is incredibly insensitive. Incredibly insensitive. Just imagine if a white Jewish person was talking about how they lost their grandfather or grandmother during the Holocaust against the white Jewish people in Germany and in Poland and all around across Europe. And then I came along and said, well, you know what that pales in comparison to the X amount of millions of people lost in the middle passage. Could you imagine how insensitive that would be? Could you imagine how the people receiving that information who a white and Jewish would feel?

53:05I mean, what I would do instead of invoking numbers from the middle passage would be to just listen to that white Jewish person talk about the experiences that their ancestors had in the caps in Poland, in the camps in various parts of Europe, other parts of Europe. I wouldn't be coming in there trying to defend myself or trying to pour cold water on things or trying to say, well, this is because that's insensitive. And it also is a form of weaponizing your own experiences against someone else's own experiences. And that's the thing that white people do all the time when it comes to black people expressing their truth, expressing their history, expressing their experiences. When just listening would be the better alternative. And so the fact that a white

54:09person feels very comfortable picking and choosing when to open their big mouth about anti-black racism shows you that they themselves are racist and clearly anti-black racist. That's obvious. And I've seen this over and over and over again, all the excuses that get made, all of the well, they did this, well, they did that. And let me tell you something, because I really think this is important. When Nick Cannon, the Black Entertainer, actor, rapper, entertainment game show host, a few years ago said these anti-Semitic things about Jewish people, white Jewish people. He was raped over the calls. And understandably so, he took some heat. In fact, one of the people

55:16who gave him that heat was the person you're listening to right now. I made it very clear that Nick Cannon, who I am no fan of, said was beyond bounds, way beyond bounds, and was anti-Semitic. I did a whole podcast episode on this. Then when he issued his apology, I supported the apology. I may have one or two criticism about his apology, but when he did that, I was very, very clear that I thought it was a good first step. But you knew, and I knew that for many white Jewish people, that would not be enough. And I thought that he needed to do some work as well. And there were many white Jewish people who were concerned about Nick Cannon, who refused to accept his apology. People in, and in the anti-deformation league, people who were, you know, of white Jewish communities

56:26that launched, who refused to accept the apology and said, no, he's going to do more. He's going to meet with this person and do this and talk to the rabbis in this group and go to this sect in this particular area in New York or somewhere else. Go to these synagogues. He had to do the, and so all of these people were calling for Nick Cannon to do the work. That the apology they stated was not enough. And that they, some of the white Jewish communities, were not accepting the apology from Nick Cannon. So what did Nick Cannon do? He spent a number of weeks and a month or two. Going and visiting with various Jewish white Jewish communities, going and speaking to rabbis, going and speaking to synagogues, going and speaking to and having meetings with the anti-deformation league and those kinds of organizations. And Nick Cannon quietly,

57:29quote unquote rehabilitated his image amongst members of the white Jewish community. Now look, again, I'm no fan of Nick Cannon, whether I'm a fan of his or not, whether I like him or not, doesn't preclude me from either defending him, supporting him or condemning what he said. See, this does not turn on whether I like Hacking Jeffries or not. This does not turn on whether I like Wippie Goldberg or not, or whether I like Tim Scott or not, or Clarence Thomas or not, because if somebody said racist stuff about Clarence Thomas, I too would be the first to condemn it. It doesn't have to be, oh, I've got to align with Clarence Thomas' views in order for me to condemn to condemn the anti-black racism against him. No, no, he's a black man. I may not like him, and I certainly am not a fan of his. I may disagree with his views and I certainly do. I've always said that

58:30Clarence Thomas has a right to his views, even though I despise what his views are. He has a right to them, and he has a right to rule the way he sees fit, even though I vehemently disagree with him. But I'm not going to let my vehement disagreements with Clarence Thomas and about Clarence Thomas, and what he stands for, get in the way of me condemning anybody who loves racist attacks at him. I am going to stand up and say that that's wrong, because wrong is wrong, wherever it is, whoever does it or says it, as Mark and X once said. And so I have an any other human being has in the spirit of being a human being, in the spirit of being a humanist, the absolute obligation to speak up and say something. When wrong is being said or done, I think people really forget that.

59:37White people specifically forget that, conveniently so. The poem from Pastor Martin Nimola, first they came for. Remember that poem written back in the 1950s by Pastor Martin Nimola, the German pastor, where he referred to, basically referred to the Holocaust against Jewish people, white Jewish people, and that poem was written around just after that time. But you see there are great many white people in this country who conveniently forget. Oh, how convenient to forget the first they came for poem and they only used that poem when it serves their interests, but not when it serves black people's interests. It's a very selfish, narrow reading. And for me, dear listener, you have to call this stuff no matter who does it. And so when Nick Cannon did that work, then you didn't hear anything else

1:00:44about Nick Cannon. Now Nick Cannon's all over the place. Over the last couple of years or last three or four years, Nick Cannon now has been all over the place. The voice, this, the America's got talent, whatever he did, not the voice. America's got talent. And he's doing a game show host thing here. He's got his music career is back on track and all that and he's doing concerts and and look, there's a lot of other things about Nick Cannon. I haven't even talked about which I think is despicable. Okay, I think it's despicable. Yet I'm not going to say that because I don't like Nick Cannon in all these other iterations that if someone tomorrow attacked him with racism, I'm not going to sit there and just say, well, Nick Cannon's this and that. So I'm not going to say anything because that what does that say about me as a person? See, that's the thing. People are so tied up with an allegiance to some dogma or an allegiance to a political party. Let me rephrase that white people are so tied to an allegiance to a

1:01:50political party that they take that on as part of their own personal identity. We as Black people don't do that shit because we don't tie our mask to any particular political party that we don't do. White people do that a lot more and Black people don't do that at all and we don't do that because we recognize these political parties don't give two fucks about us. Historically and currently they don't. We are the backbone of the Democratic party, but do they give two shit about us? No, they don't. And it's reflected in the way they behave with their resources. It's reflected in the monies that they spend on white candidates are not on Black ones. It's reflected in people like Mike Nellis who pose to be posed like there's some kind of old progressive and yet they instantly dismiss an angi-nix and in Florida even before the elections happened. It's reflected in the

1:02:56as I would say hard racism of low expectations to paraphrase George W. Bush, war criminal Bush. It's reflected in a lot of things and this is part of the white lexicon. That's what it's about. It's this anti-Black lexicon. And I've always said this to your listener. The language, the official national language of the United States of America is anti-Blackness. And there are lots of white people who are very, very comfortable with that anti-Black language by omission or commission, by openly saying it or by being silent. And that white silence is white violence. So with that particular chat I did last night, all of the white people in that chat, none of whom said a damn word, were committing acts of white violence against every Black person by being silent because silence is violence. So nobody who is white in that chat required Ruthergibrile to do anything

1:04:06beyond the apology that she wrote on X last week. But somehow when Nick Cannon says something that's anti-Semitic against white Jewish people, white people have no problem saying to Nick Cannon, I'm not accepting your apology. Your apology is not enough. You need to go and do this work. You need to do this. You need to do that. You need to do the other thing. I can cite a number of other people with this too as well. I can go to Michael Vick. I can go to, oh, you know, Michael Vick, he did this, he did that. He needs to do this. And Michael Vick did all this work. And for some white people that still wasn't enough because the point is, do this, then it's never enough for the average white person when you're Black. It's never enough. Because they don't want you here anyway. They hate us. The world hates Black people.

1:05:06And the fact that you would not require that Ruthergibrile, after saying the racist bullshit that she said, would not be required by you as a white person to go and meet with the Congressional Black Caucus to go and meet with Representative Huckiem Jeffries to go and meet with these people. You're not some rinky dink person online. You are a professor, a scholar, someone who holds herself out as somebody who is an expert in the Middle East or on Palestine. You're a Palestinian woman. You're somebody who's written books and lectured and been at conferences and you've been around the world and you've traveled and you've done this and you've done that. But somehow you're telling me that she, Ruthergibrile, should not be meeting with people, is that what you'd say? Right. Well, if it's good enough for Nick Cannon, who is some, in my view, a raggedy ass entertainer

1:06:14with lots of problematic things about him, it should be damn well good enough for Ruthergibrile. What Ruthergibrile said was so blatantly anti-Black racist. And if you as a white person listening to this cannot bring yourself to condemn those remarks, you two are an anti-Black racist. If you can't even suggest or say that Ruthergibrile needs to do the work, needs to actually meet with the Congressional Black Caucus and meet with members of Black communities and meet with members of the online Black community and meet with Huckine Jeffries, the congressman. If you can't even suggest that, you can't claim to be someone who is an anti-Black, who is an anti-racist, but you certainly are an anti-Black racist.

1:07:16The fact that you would let who you like and who you don't like dictate how you're going to respond in a situation where there's blatant racism really speaks volumes about who you are. And means that you don't stand for jack shit except for racism. Really, because it's a very clear cut situation for me. I have stood up all the time and been very clear when something anti-gares happening. I have absolutely cut off friends. I've told you this before, dear listener. There was a woman I'd known for years and all of a sudden she said some anti-gay bullshit. I canceled her ass. She's gone. No more friendship. Ten years of friendship gone. Said this homophobic things. I'm having that. I'm having that. And you don't have to be a gay person to do that. I'm a straight man. You don't have to be. You have to have a conscience. You have to

1:08:19care about human beings. You have to be a humanist. You have to be somebody who believes in the sanctity of human beings being able to live and to love and to be who they are. There shouldn't be this qualification and boundary line and this. I'm not trying to be naive or anything. There shouldn't be any boundary and ooh, let me think. Should I condemn? Should I not? And Wajahat Ali needed to be a lot tougher with his friend, Rulajabriel than he was. And I tell you, I have no problem being tough with friends. No problem losing friends either because they really aren't my friends in the first place. If they're going to say racist bullshit. And the people who were in that chat last night, the white people who were in that chat last night who sat by and said absolutely nothing really showed their bear unwashed asses. Bear unwiped asses. That's what they showed me. And every

1:09:28other black person who attended that chat that I did last night for four and a half hours. No question about it, dear listener. It was inescapable. Inescapable. It just was inescapable. And so for me, dear listener, there's just no doubt about it, no doubt whatsoever. And the bottom line here is that you have so many white people who are not going to do the work. They're never going to. They're going to sit and make excuses and they're going to keep centering their own whiteness ahead of just listening instead and having some empathy for somebody who is black. Their whiteness is more important to defend than your blackness and your black pain is to listen to. Let me repeat that with a slight variation. A white person's whiteness is more important for a

1:10:33white person to defend than your black pain is for that white person to listen to. At the end of the day, dear listener, that's the truth. At the end of the day, dear listener, that's the selfishness of the vast vast vast majority of white people on this planet. It's the selfishness. It's the deep-seated anger. It's the deep-seated resentment. The deep-seated guilt. The deep-seated anti-black racism. And the deep-seated hatred and intolerance. And you just want if you're white for the most part, the vast majority of white people, just want black people to disappear and not be anywhere near them, not to be anywhere in their community, not to live next to them or in their same apartment building or in their same row of housing or anything or down the street in their house and the house down the street.

1:11:36They don't want them in a restaurant. This is the truth. White people don't want black people in the same restaurant with them, no matter where they are in the country, here in the US. They don't want black people sitting near them or next to them. They don't want black people at all in a restaurant space, in a jazz musician, music space or in any space. That's the vast majority of white people. And I understand there's white people and black people who are married to each other. Again, I've got no issue with black people and white people marrying. Black women marry white men. There are black men who marry white women. There are, you know what I mean? That's stuff. All of that is about personal choices and you're and who you love. I will never condemn that. I have no issue with it. I think any person who finds love, they should be happy with that. And that makes me happy. I don't care who it is. If it's two men, two women, two white people, two black people, one black man, one white woman,

1:12:38one white man, and one black woman, I don't care. All I care about is that those people find love and happiness. And if that happens, perfect, perfect. But being married to a black person, if you are a white person, does not now give you carte blanche to start pontificating on all issues that are black. You don't get to have this front row seat to be the white pontificator about the negro or about the black person. You don't get to do that. And that's the arrogance that emanates from a lot of white people who are in those situations. They think now that because they've married a white man in the case of a white woman or because they've married a black woman in the case of a white man, but they're now negrologists. But they're now fucking experts pun intended and not intended on black people.

1:13:47No matter how many black men or how many black women, you as a white person ends up marrying or have fucked or have whatever else, you will never know what it's like to be a black person. You will never experience that. You may see up close that a black person has been racially attacked by the police or killed or whatever else you may have witnessed, but you as a white person individually will never know what it is like to constantly feel under surveillance to be under surveillance to constantly be followed every time you go into any store of any kind. To wonder if you didn't get that job because someone white who interviewed you or that team of white people who looked at you said, oh, you know what? We don't want this black person here.

1:14:49You'll never know that as a white person. So do not pretend to think that because you're married to a black person, you somehow have this extra unique insight. You really don't. You might think you do, but you really don't. You may have had some experiences, but again, you're never going to know what it's truly like. You may perhaps live vicariously through some horrendous experience that your black spouse has witnessed or experienced, but you're never going to individually have that cloud around you every single second of your life. You're not. And I think there is a real white arrogance out here with a lot of white people who

1:15:52may be in situations like this who now think that they can just say all these things to black people that they don't know beyond their relationship with their black spouse that they now can go to black people who they don't know and start lecturing and talking shit. Stay in your lane. And that lane being your marriage to someone black and do that. Whatever that is. But don't think now that because you've married one black man or one black woman or one black person, whether they're straight gay, whatever, trans whomever, that you now have this moral authority to start lecturing any black person that you may come into contact with because that's your whiteness and your arrogance and your anti-black racism showing. That's what that is. And there's white people who marry black people who are right, you know, that they're white people who are racist

1:16:52who end up marrying black people. There's internalized racism within white people but they, many of those white people don't acknowledge either don't know or don't care or are too feeling racked with guilt to investigate. There's a lot of that. And there are white people who've ended up killing their black spouses. That's very, that's happened a number of times. And yes, there are white people who think that OJ Simpson did kill Nicole Brown, Simpson and Ron Goldman. I don't know for a fact that they that he did. The evidence suggests that he did because the LAPD and the LA prosecutors were so shitty in that case. So if they had a strong case, why didn't they prove it? Why didn't they prove it? Why did you have to have Mark Ferman plant a glove or plant socks? And why didn't that glove fit?

1:17:53See, this is the other thing. See, all these people again, and I don't have to like OJ Simpson. He was a piece of garbage. He abused his wife, his white spouse. He abused her. He was a domestic violence. That we know for sure. That is unquestionable. That's proven that he's done that. But it was not proven that he killed Nicole Brown, Simpson or Ron Goldman. There was no DNA evidence. None. But you have so many white Americans, white people. Oh, he did it. He did it. Did he do it because he was a black man in your opinion? Or did he do it because you foundationally believe that there was evidence that he did it because the evidence was not presented in court. The prosecutors had a whole fucking year to prove that OJ Simpson was guilty of murder and they failed. So where does all this come from? Is it your white racism? Is it your anti-black racism?

1:19:01Because again, no proof. You have an opinion, okay, you think he did it. But I tell you, there are plenty of white people who will go and watch a video of Rodney King. Three years before OJ Simpson's trial and the murder of Nicole Brown, Simpson and Ron Goldman. There are plenty of white people who watched that video down in Seamy Valley, a jury of those LAPD officers, white officers, peers who watched that video of Rodney King being beaten to with an inch of his life by at least 12 LAPD officers who will look at that video and who looked at that video in a jury room and thought, oh no, not guilty. They didn't do anything to Rodney King. See, how come white people in the same Southern California area, Seamy Valley is about

1:20:02X amount of miles away from LA, but how come white people in Southern California forget the rest of the country of the world. I'm just talking Southern California for a second here. How come in the space of three fucking four fucking years or three years in 1991 to 1994? How come in 1991? There were white people in Southern California who looked at that video tape of Rodney King being beaten to a pulp and said, no, they're not guilty of anything with the fucking evidence right in front of their eyes. No, they're not guilty of anything. And then white people in the same Southern California three years later in 1994, no evidence that OJ Simpson did anything, no evidence presented in court for two years, 94 and 95. And yet you can look with no evidence for a whole fucking year

1:21:04of a trial and those same white people in Southern California going, oh yeah, he did it. Huh? You tell me how to square that fucking circle. Oh yeah, it's the anti black racism. Stupid. white people are going to have to confront their anti black racism. And in this chat last night, you have white people deflecting and they're doing what Donald Trump does. They're doing what any white person's talk to do. They're doing what Roy Cohn, that evil slimeball. There's a new book out about in court American scoundrel which I'm currently reading is by Kai Bird, K-A-I last name bird as in the animal. And as people know, Roy Cohn taught

1:22:07Donald Trump to deflect, deny, lie and attack. And that's what so many white people do on a daily basis, particularly when a black person is talking about their lived experience and their history and their ancestors. You're doing the same thing as a white person that Roy Cohn told Donald Trump to do that Donald Trump does daily. And that happened in this chat last night. Oh, what about everyone else? The what aboutism? Oh, you know, don't we have to fight against racism for everyone? Yeah, that was a white or Latina or white Latina's comment yesterday. Oh, don't we have to fight but you know, again, that person would not go into a chat where white Jewish people are talking about their lived experiences or their ancestors escaping from a book in a book in an hour or any of

1:23:09these camps. You wouldn't have that white person or that white Latina going in there and saying, well, what about fighting against anti-black racism or fighting against this racism or fighting against Islamophobia? See, none of these people who come into the black chats and say, ooh, what about race fighting racism on all fronts? They don't go into the white chats, those same people and challenge the white Jewish person to talk about or pose questions to them about, well, what about fighting anti-blackness or what about fighting Islamophobia? You never go into those damn chats, do you? And challenge those individuals who hold those chats, those white individuals or those white Jewish individuals. You don't go and challenge them with that. You only do that when a black person is holding a forum. Why? Why are you only doing that when a black person's talking? But you don't do that when a white person or a white Jewish person is talking about their lived experiences.

1:24:16Huh? Why don't you do that? You and I know the answers to that question. All the excuses, same thing with what happened earlier this year in the BAFTA situation, the BAFTAs, where the BBC refused to air somebody shouting, free Palestine. But even in this tape recorded, tape delayed show, where they could have easily allowed that to stay in, did not edit out. The racist chanting and shouting that a white man with Tourette's had for Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lender. How do you explain that? How do you explain that? Well, it's pretty easy. The people at the BBC are anti-black racist and they need the decision to allow the racist

1:25:22epithets to be audible in their broadcast while absolutely editing out the free Palestine chats that were going on during the BAFTAs. And the other thing is that all the white people who again were silent last night in the chat, when I was talking about really Jibril's anti-black racism, are indicative of the very same white people who at the time of what happened seven months ago at the BAFTAs, were making excuses then about, well, this guy has Tourette's and he's a guy that Tourette says something that causes an involuntary things while they failed to acknowledge and understand that he had to have those racist thoughts in his head regardless of the Tourette's before he had the Tourette's. Because he has a white man swims about in an anti-black racist society called the United Kingdom, where I'm originally from.

1:26:27And so he like any white person, internalized anti-black racism from an early age growing up in the milieu of anti-blackness, growing up in the milieu of anti-black racism, growing up in the milieu of a white dominated society, growing up in the milieu of a white system. He internalized that for decades and that became a part of him as it does every white person. So that it was very, very easy therefore, whether he had Tourette's or not to spurt out these repeated anti-black racist things. And I can hear somebody white now. Well, he also said this about this group or he also said this about these women. Listen folks, I'm a black man in case you did not know. And so I am going to speak about my group just like you speak about yours

1:27:35and stop doing this to black people when we talk about our blackness and our black experiences. Stop bringing up other fucking people. It shows that you don't care. It shows that you don't want to listen. It shows that you are racist as well. It is not a good look for you. So I really strongly recommend and suggest that you stop that bullshit and listen for a fucking change. Oh, I feel so attacked. It's always about you. And that's the fucking problem. You make it about you, you, you, the selfishness, the individualism, me, me, me, I, I, I. That's the damn problem. And the racism is the problem, obviously, that you have. And every white person has internalized anti-blackness, internalized racism. They do. And I'll hear some, oh, I know that's not true or

1:28:43and instead of just listening to that and sitting with it and actually investigating why you might or why you do and saying, well, I want to really learn more and dig deep. No, you don't want to. You're not curious enough to, you don't care to, you don't care to want to. You just know that you have white privilege and you are fully aware that you do and you know that you're not going to do fuck all with your white privilege, but just sit on it and flaunt it whenever the fuck you want. Free white and 21, like Bell Hooks once said. And that's the attitude. You have the luxury in a system that supports you that backs your whiteness to just sit back and say not a motherfucking word. You have the luxury of calling police at your Beck and call and deploying them on black people and making the threats to black people. I'm going to call the cops, Amy Cooper, 2020 Central Park with a dog on a leash that she she was lynching talking to a black man who

1:29:47was bird watching in a designated area. You have the luxury as a white woman did in Suburban, Chicago last few weeks, just a few weeks ago of calling the cops knowing that they're not going to come and shoot you dead. You have the luxury of doing that as a white person. You are racist period. Black people cannot be racist. We don't have a systemic structure that undergirds are thoughts and feelings or that weaponizes them to tragic and deadly effect. We don't have that system. Now, there might be black people who say bigoted things. Certainly a black person can be a bigot, but a black person cannot be a racist. We may have racial animosities and you might chuckle that as a white person. But the reality is racism is a fucking system. It is not about calling someone in or this or that. Obviously that's racist, but that is backed up by a system that

1:30:47oppresses and discriminates against black people to this very day. Black people have no such system with which to oppress and denigrate and discriminate against white people. None. We can't just call the police and have them sick upon a white person. Sick them. We can't do that. We can't just pick up a phone and say, hey, look, you know what? This white person won't leave my lawn. We might end up dead. We often do end up dead when we call the cops. When black people call the cops, that is very often a death sentence for us as black people. It's a death sentence. So that is something that white people don't particularly care about at large. The vast majority do not care about. And again, I'm not talking about a few people online because I think a lot of the stuff that happens with white people online is very performative. Now, there's one or two people out here who I think do the work. But when you have a white person ask me, well, who,

1:31:52which white people do you recommend, who do this work as actual allies to black people? That's really another very revealing thing. Why can't you investigate that? Why do you have to ask a black person to do that work? You need to do the work. And the thing is there are white people who are white people can be so goddamn lazy and are often very lazy about these things. You want everything dropped in your fucking lap. And it don't work that way. And then you call us as black people lazy at the very same time. What nerve to call us the lazy ones when our ancestors built this mother 246 years of enslavement. We didn't get paid a penny. And then you sit here in 2026 as a white person and you're asking black people, well, what books can we read? There's a fucking thing called a library. There's a fucking thing called the internet. Do your own research and stop being so lazy.

1:32:56And that's the thing. The lazy people in America are the white Americans. The vast majority of white people are very lazy about these particular things. We as black people have worked so extremely hard in this country to get white Americans, white people in America to look into their consciences. We've died trying to make that happen. And for the most part, it still falls on death white ears. So what happened last night, Deel Estre, in this sub-stack conversation that I did was very, very revealing. It really was. And it just shows you not so much that there's a divide. And yes, there are divisions in the country. Not so much that there's a divide, but there is just this

1:33:57intransigence, this white intransigence that happens where there's always going to be the excuse making and the individualizing and the deflecting and the denying and the defensiveness and the individualized personalizations and declarations. But none of the motherfucking work. Will this tremendous outburst now lead to a course of action, Mr. Belafonte? The now that is being spoken about is the fact that in a hundred years, finally, through whatever the causes have been in history and most of them have been because of oppression,

1:35:00the Negro people have strongly and fully taken the bit in their teeth. They're asking absolutely no quarter from anyone. But I do say that the bulk of the interpretation of whether this thing is going to end successfully and joyously or is going to end disastrously lays very heavily with the white community. It lays very heavily with the profiteers. It lays very heavily with vested interests, lays very heavily with a great middle stream in this country of people who have refused to commit themselves or even have the slightest knowledge that these things have been going on. I literally dedicate my entire adult life professionally speaking to getting all mobilising as much black endeavour in the academy as I could. And I told you about the professors that I spoke to, and as young as you said, you'll get ahead if you're selfish. If you're selfish, you'll get ahead. And I was like, no, I want to bring people, as many people that came with me.

1:36:04And it's not about how you get there, it's about the way you've done it. There are so many black and ethnic minority people that can unbelievable. Far, I'm not gifted, I just worked hard. And as I said, it's probably willing to suffer. And that's probably what it came down to you. But the point is it shouldn't actually have to come to that. There are so many gifted black and ethnic minority people in higher education. And what I would love, what I would love five years from now is for us to be able to say that there's not 155 black professors in the UK, but there's like 5,000, 10,000. I'm Dr. Brutee Spare and I have a story that I have to tell you have to listen. 600,000 black women executives were fired or pushed out of their jobs. It sounds like a number that is impossible. It's probably more than that. It actually echoes louder and bigger than you can imagine.

1:37:11Those 600 black women in those key positions were not just black women. They were the conscience of corporations and workplaces and federal places. They were the conscious of what happened, the workplace bullying, the policies that kept companies from doing things like sending sheriffs to your house over a credit card. They were the people who created an environment of engagement and belonging and purpose. They were targeted. They were targeted in an effort to keep black families from moving forward. It was a real deliberate and calculated thing. And if you don't believe me, look into it. But it's not just affecting

1:38:11black families. It's affecting all of us. I am an independent consultant as a result of those 600,000 and the other women who stand by those women and the men who were doing the right thing. I've lost about 85% of my work and it hurts at a time when my health is challenged. It hurts deeply. It hurts deeply because the attempt, the goal is to take away the hope, to take away the light, to take away the voice in that company that would say, we can't do this. This is not the right thing. It takes away the power to make sure children are fed, to make sure elderly are cared for. Those voices of hope that have been in those places for decades who knew how to run things quietly, efficiently and effectively are not just their loss, it's not just affecting black households,

1:39:17it's not just affecting my household, it's affecting America. And we all should care, we all should see what's happening, the policies and the changes and enabling people to sue you for something to put in little binding clauses and places. There was some woman who had been there for a while. She was not only educated, but she was smart and she was cunning and she could see things coming and she would appeal to those others who knew how to do the right thing to get the right thing done. But that voice is gone. It's gone from those workplaces, it's gone from those forces, it's gone from the inside. That voice of hope. Here's the thing nobody counted on. This joy that we have, the world didn't give it to us, the world didn't give it, and the world

1:40:22can't take it away. We will rise, we will climb, we will keep moving through hardship and pain and suffering because our mothers and their mothers and their mothers went through so much more. We will continue to be the hope in our communities and in anywhere that we go. We will continue to lift others up and to say the right thing and to encourage people to stand together and to encourage people to walk together. You can kill our jobs, our means, our stuff, but you can't kill our voice. You can't kill our light, you can't kill our hope. I've been a target for a long time, but the ancestors keep whispering in my ears. Keep on dancing, keep on moving, keep on singing, keep on shining your light because this too will change and we are going to get there.

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1:42:43The A-Champions! There is nothing like the love letter that an organization has an opportunity to write to expand and to extend quite like winning a championship. Enjoy and expand, enjoy and feel excited and above you in 2026 New York Knives! Welcome back. Just a final few things here and thank you for listening.

1:43:59As I alluded to in that last block, this is being done to deflect, disrupt and distract from black people having conversations in their spaces in what are supposed to be supposedly safe spaces. That's what this is. When you see white people doing this or bots or trolls or whomever is all done to distract and derail the conversation, white people coming into the chat last night, for example, that I was doing and saying, oh, you know, I've lost someone in my family, I've lost my spouse. And then all of a sudden they start talking and trying to disrupt the conversation that we're having. So it's sad that you lost your husband if indeed you did or lost your spouse. But then why are you now going on to proceed to attack or disrupt a conversation that black people are having about the anti-black racism of one really, do you real? Why are you doing

1:45:05that? So are you weaponizing your own personal tragedy assuming that you actually did experience this tragedy? Are you weaponizing that to then now give yourself a pass so that no one's going to come back at you because oh, you just lost your spouse. So now we're not going to come back at you because you're now being an anti-black racist. No, we're going to come after you. We as black people don't play that bullshit. Don't come into any black form and talk that you lost someone you're in bereavement phase, but you're so bereaved that you're so bereaved that you're going to now come in and attack a black form with your bullshit. That is not going to stop me or any other black person from reaming your ass out. See that white people will use any trick in the book to try to disrupt, deflect, deny and distract from the conversation or disrupt a conversation that black people are having. The best thing that white people can do, one of the best things they

1:46:11can do is shut the fuck up and listen. That's number one. The next thing they can do is actually, as I've said before, utilize their white privilege to help and elevate black people. This is the solutions portion of this episode. 600,000 plus black women were laid off last year. Around the same number of black men were as well under Donald Trump in 2025. The very least that you as a white person listening can do. If you are employed, if you're at a company, if you own your own business, is to offer a black person that you know who is unemployed, a position at your business in some capacity, or to suggest to a fellow white employer or someone else white that you know who is looking for people to hire. But

1:47:11this black person that you know has qualifications and experience. I think there'd be an excellent hire. Here's their resume. That's what you, as a white person who claims to be anti-racist, needs to do. And even if you don't claim to be anti-racist, you need to do that kind of work. One of the other things you need to do is to challenge white people where they are in your community, in your neighborhood, in your family. And you need to get in their face. I don't mean aggressively getting in there, but you need to really challenge them on their own anti-black racism, or have a conversation with them about these things. And you need to be prepared to disassociate yourself from them. And there are some white people

1:48:13that I know who have done that. Bravo. And you don't get a cookie for that, but you do get my acknowledgement and respect. Because I think a lot of this for many white people in my estimation is all about validating themselves individually. And all about them saying, well, I'm the good one. That's what this is for a lot of white people in my view. A lot of this absolution is about their own personal feeling about themselves and their own personal validation. Well, I'm not a racist. I'm one of the good white people. I do this. I do that. And if you keep thinking that way, things will never change. You need to be linking this not just to you, but to any white person, which is why I say you need to be challenging other white people. There cannot be about strictly your own feel good moment. Because we all work in progress. And white people need to do the work, as I said at the end of the last segment. So those are some of the things that what people need to do.

1:49:18And by the way, white people need to do the education as well. They need to do that education. They need to do that. That's the thing they need to do. That's very important. Black people cannot hold your hand and tell you what this, this needs to be done. This needs to be done. This needs to be done. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that cannot be some of the black people do. That would be incredibly unfair. You need to do the work, as I said, you need to not be lazy about that. If you really care, and you really think that you're not racist, that's what you need to be doing. You need to be doing. The work, the education, you need to educate yourself. And please stop asking black people what books to recommend. I've done enough of those recommendations already. You have to start on your own. You have no problem getting on a website and looking for some

1:50:22shopping. You don't have to ask black people, okay, what would you recommend that I shop for? You just fucking won't go and do it. Right? So why are you asking a black person about books to read about your history as well? Not only black people's. When you can do the basic research yourself. And all of this excuse making, please stop doing that. Stop with the excuses. Well, you're feeling under the weather or you're someone who is in really bad health. Everybody can do something. Right? Again, unless you're somebody who literally cannot move and is literally in a state where they cannot do anything because they're physically incapacitated or because they are in a position where they literally can't move or speak or type. Unless you're in that situation, you can always do something. And the people who are in chat saying that they're in bad health

1:51:24have are sticking around that chat for four hours and typing. So you can do something. You can actually communicate. If you can type in a chat to me for over the course of four plus hours, then you aren't in such bad health that you can't do anything. We all can do something. Any white person can do something. You're those of my pointers. If you are serious white person in the world about doing something. Now the other thing they listen to and this is addressed to black people listening. What can we do? We need to keep spreading black joy. That's one thing we need to keep doing. Amidst all of the attacks on us. Number two, we need to continue to be solid with each other. We need to have

1:52:28solidarity with each other. Black solidarity. That's what we need to do. Number three, we need to remain proactive. We need to connect with each other as black people. We need to stop the divisions that we have in black communities between black people in the United States and black people in the African diaspora and overseas. We need to stop that bullshit. This happens on one side and the other. It's not just coming from one side. It comes from all sides. And we need to have some meetings where we're actually having the discussions that I think are needed. That's one thing we need to stop investing in divisions amongst different black communities. That is something we need to stop doing. And we also do listener as black people need to educate each other about how government works

1:53:30on the local, state and federal level here in the United States. We need to vote. We need to understand what voting means. We need to understand that it is a very important tool, especially now, with 55 days to go to the midterms. And we also need to be cognizant of respecting black women. That's something we need to do. We need to respect black women. That's what we need to do as black men in particular. And black women also need to listen to black men as well. Which I think the vast majority of black women happen to already do. But I really would also like for the black women who don't do that to actually begin to listen to black men without judgment of them. And be please be not be be not so quick to trample on the brother when he's talking. Hear him out.

1:54:38And I certainly and strongly urge black men to do the same as I said. Listen to black women, respect black women. In fact, everybody needs to listen to black women. White people especially do. So those are some of the things and solutions I propose because I do believe in proposing solutions. Now, the solutions portion of this podcast was not nearly as long as the analysis portions of the portion of this podcast episode. But again, I do believe in providing solutions. We need to be better human beings at the end of the day. That is my point. And white people have that man that mission to do that. If they want to that is their so-called assignment. Should they choose to do it? Should you as a white person listening choose to do it? So I urge you to listen to, carry forth what you've heard here. And

1:55:40pass it along. Whoever you are in the world. Put it into action. Because at the end of the day, our actions speak far louder than our words do. But our words are a reflection, a complete and clear reflection of what is in our hearts. And when Ruliger Brille or Laura Lumer or Donald Trump or any of these other anti-black racists out here say what they are saying. They are saying how they feel because that is who they've always been. And to the people who defend anti-black racists, you too are an anti-black racist.

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1:58:50So don't tell me you out here, holler and black lives matter if you don't vote. Black lives don't matter to you if you don't vote. Don't tell me you're mad that Daniel Cameron has not indicted the police officers who killed Breonna Taylor if you don't vote because you ain't got nothing to do with it. How dare you not vote? When we don't vote, we dismiss ourselves from being part of leveling the playing field of justice in the United States of America. We're going to be political consciousness, becoming politically mature. And as they become, uh, develop this political maturity, they're able to see the recent trends in these

1:59:50political elections. They see that the whites are so evenly divided that every time they vote, the race is so close, they have to go back and count the votes all over again. And that which means that any block, any minority that has a block of votes that stick together is in a strategic position. Either way you go, that's who gets it. You're you're in a position to determine who go to the White House and who stay in the dog house. You're the one who has that power. You can keep Janssen in Washington DC or you can send him back to his Texas Canton fence. You're the one who sent Kennedy to Washington. You're the one who put the present democratic administration in Washington DC. The whites were evenly divided. It was the fact that you threw 8% of your votes behind the Democrats that put the Democrats in the White House.

2:00:52When you see this, you can see that the Negro vote is the key factor.