Archangel Uriel's Message to Humanity of Hope with Leanne Thomas

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I'd like to welcome to show Leanne Thomas, how you doing Leanne?

I'm good.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me on.

This is a thrill of a lifetime.

Oh, thank you so much for being here.

I appreciate you coming on and I think we're going to have a fun conversation about what

you do, which is unique in itself.

Yeah.

I think so.

I'm like the weirdo in my family, but in a good way.

Very incredible.

I am also the weirdo in our family.

So you're not only a psychic medium, but you're also a channel for the angelic realm.

So you kind of do both in your evidential medium as well.

So you have the trifecta there.

Right.

It's yeah, the expansion of my work with in all of those ways took off.

I started with angels when I was very young, little, and medium should became a strength

for me, not knowing that channeling was even a thing when I started.

I knew what I was doing was similar to channeling from what I understand channeling is now,

but at the time it was just a natural experience or an offshoot from connecting to people's

loved ones.

No, very cool.

So before we start going down those rabbit holes, what was your life like before these

abilities came into your life, or was it always there since the beginning?

Well, when I look back on it, it was always there from the beginning, but I didn't embrace

it.

I didn't know what it was.

I grew up in a really small town in the Central Valley of California, and you didn't

want to be the weirdos in a small farm town.

My grandfather grew grapes that were made into raisins, sun-made raisins, and we just weren't

going to be outed that way.

I had experiences from the time I was very little, and they happened in the family.

It's something that I know now runs in the family, but no one embraced it.

We just had paranormal experiences happen in the house, but nobody really talked about

it.

Or I was having more of the experiences than my siblings per se.

There's a lot of death in my family from a young age, and so I think that's part of

the reason things were amped up compared to, say, you know, other people that got started

with this.

But really, my journey was, I tried to be normal goal for a really long time.

I became a school teacher in my 20s.

I was a mom.

I got a master's degree in education, excelled at teaching, went back and got a second master's

in teaching, and so I kind of just really tried to be normal route.

I'm just like everybody else out there, except I was having experiences.

They took off really strongly in my 30s.

Yeah.

I can see you as Mrs. Thomas in a classroom.

There's no question.

I can see that energy in you with us.

The teacher energy in me, Vinantime, showing up, yes.

Absolutely.

So your story is similar to so many that I've heard before is that they've had, they grew

up with these abilities, these experiences, but rejected them either because of family,

because of society, because of community, and then it just gets so loud that you can't

ignore it anymore.

Is that kind of what happened to you in your 30s?

Correct.

Things have happened to me in my 20s, but I got myself busy studying, learning, working,

all of those things, and just did my best to ignore it, and it became to a point where

it couldn't be ignored.

I was having so many bizarre, synchronistic moments that I had to answer that call.

I had to figure out what was going on with me, and I ended up in a class, and on my way

driving to the class, I just spoke out loud to the universe, if you will, and said, all

right, I'm going to figure this out this weekend.

I'm either crazy, and I'm going to go get help after this weekend, or this is something

real.

So I'm down for which way it goes.

That's how it happened.

What I love what you just said there is that your reaction to this is very human and very

grounded.

Like, am I going crazy, and if I need to go get some help, or this is real, and this is

again, a similar song, a similar note that I hear in a lot of psychics and channeler's

abilities and their journey, is that there's that moment where, am I end losing myself?

Because if I started hearing voices, I started seeing dead people walk by.

I would be like, dude, what the hell is happening?

Right.

And if you're not trained, or if you don't have someone guiding you through the process,

terrifying, I'd imagine, was that kind of it for you as well?

I don't remember being terrified, except for when I was very little, or very young, because

there were people that would walk through the room, and sometimes they glowed.

And that was the part that freaked me out.

I remember when my grandfather passed away, he came and stood in my room, and I begged

him in my head not to go.

I knew what was going on, even though I didn't know what was going on, and he just stood

there and talked to me through telepathy.

His mouth never opened.

I was bargaining with him.

Please don't go.

I'll be a better little girl.

Eat my vegetables.

I won't argue with mommy, right?

And then I hear my mom scream from the other room and drop the phone, and I knew my grandfather

he was gone after that.

He comes now, and then I've even seen him before, just from the waist down.

Really weird experience to see half a ghost, if you will, although he's not a ghost.

He's a trickster.

He always was when he was alive, and that was my first experience.

But of seeing them, young, the angels were my very earliest memories of being very young

of sitting on the floor of my bedroom and playing with my Barbies and the angels.

And so that's, I didn't know anything other than to call them angels, because they looked

and showed me themselves as what you would depict in pictures of guardian angels.

I was raised Catholic, and so I went to Catholicism, and I didn't go to Catholic school, but I

went to Catholicism, right, and raised Catholic and then Lutheran later, and the depictions

that we had of guardian angels as being little.

So I knew what to call them.

My mom would talk to me and say, we don't really see them.

You're not really seeing, you know, you're not really playing with the angels, you know,

God's real, Jesus is real, the angels are real, but we don't get to see them.

And she has since told me later in life that that was her way of trying to help me not turn

strange.

So didn't know it at the time, it was her best effort at keeping me from being an outcast

in some way, or identify a strange or other kids being afraid of me, because she had seen

that happen with others in the past, and she didn't want that for me, and in her best

interest, but I mean, she couldn't keep it away.

So in your opinion, do you believe that as a child is born, they are much closer to

spirit than they are every year that goes by, they get a little bit more detached, a little

bit more entangled in this reality. And it takes you a minute to kind of remember or bring

your frequency down to that level, which comes not, we come in naturally with that frequency.

Right. All this programming, all this muck that gets tossed on us, we kind of lose our connection.

And then the occasional gut, gut reaction, intuition, these are the little bit of the psychic

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But then some of us, you know, as you go through it, you start to meditate more, you start going

back and you start to try to get back to that frequency. Does that all make sense to you?

It's exactly right. That's exactly how it happens. And some of us just tend to keep more of that

energy than others. But everybody at any point in their life, it doesn't matter if they're 20 or

70 or 100 can begin to bring it back. And meditation really is probably the most helpful way

to reignite that spark within us, that divinity that connects to the infinite field. And then

therefore the spirit realms and all of that. A meditation teacher studied with Sarah McLean.

And so meditation is near and dear to my heart. That's amazing.

So you were raised Catholic eye as well. I'm a recovering Catholic, like the joke.

So when you've decided to kind of come out publicly about this stuff as you were going through

your journey and you started to really embrace these abilities, how did it affect you psychologically

based around the people around you? Because I'm assuming in the Catholic religion, as they always say,

you're talking to the demon, the devil, you know, blasphemy. I mean, there's a thousand things

that the Catholic Church does not like about the work that you do or even the work that I do for that

matter. So how did you, how did the people around you deal with it and how did you deal with it?

I was very secretive at first and protective of what was happening. But I had to discover

what was going on because it wasn't normal. And I told my husband that was the first person

that I had told that something was going on with. And we had a conversation. He says, I don't

know that I understand what's going on or what's happening. He says, but I know you and I trust you.

And so what do we need to do with this? And I started there and he just kind of helped to keep

my secret for as long as possible. As a school teacher, you know, of course, you want to be mindful

of not igniting panic in such a traditional setting. But I had close friends that I was a teacher

with for a long time. And there was, I told some of my friends and told everybody not to tell someone.

And they were the people that I practiced on first. And then they told someone and they

told someone and eventually like everyone knew and then parents were coming to me. I had principles

coming and asking if they could have a reading. It just started to open up. But at that time,

I was living in the Bay area in the Silicon Valley. My husband's a big tech person

traveled around the world and managing teens of tech people. And so we lived in such an open space

to have that. But I was still very protective of it at first. Fearful that my reputation that I had

spent so long building up would break down. And I guess God had another plan because the word

spread like wildfire and I was very much supported. It was in my own family that I had problems with.

Some siblings that didn't sit well with or were concerned. My mom struggled with it. My stepdad embraced

me. It was just such a beautiful moment that I got to have with my stepdad and a challenging

relationship when I was younger. So it was such a mixed bag. But I want to call people that are

having that experience forward just to embrace what's going on with them. And be that full

for God if you will. And trust your calling or the talent or exploring it. Most people are really

going to be surprised how it will get embraced, especially in the coming years. We're going through

big and energetic changes on our planet. And we need to be that force of peace in the world

that brings our intuition forward makes it normal. There are actually priests out there that are

embracing mediumship on some levels. Catholic priests. Yeah, Catholic priests. Yeah, there's a woman

named Mary Ambor. And she wrote a book called The Gift Within Us. And she sought to find as many

talented intuitives, healers, angel channeler, psychics, mediums. And she talked to them,

talked to some archbishop. And so she's written about that in her book. And he said, we know it's

a real thing. We have nuns that speak to the angels. He told her. And so it was, we are seeing

somewhat of a transformation in small pockets of things like that. So I mean, we've got to be

brave and bold. We have to open that energy up of peace and love for this world. That's beautiful.

That's really interesting that that's happened. I mean, can you imagine 20 years ago, 50 years ago,

a conversation like that wouldn't even exist. And that it is opening up even in small pockets

where this is going to go in 100 years. I mean, it'll get to a place where like many things in

the Catholic church, they just can't deny anymore. They can't. They have like, okay. All right, hell is

really not a physical place. It's kind of a set is a mindset is what the late Pope Francis said.

So all the hardcore Catholics lost their minds. But there is, there is a shift happening,

even within within the Christian and the Catholic religion, there is a slight shift, but it is slow.

I also believe because this is what's happening, the consciousness is shifting. People like

me are coming out. There's what you're doing in the world. That's why I believe that AI

isn't going to take a negative turn and destroy us because our consciousness is shifting. It'll

be a tool. It'll be a useful support. In my grandmother's days, she was grateful to have a

washing machine, right? And I remember when my parents were first getting an ATM card,

how afraid they were that that was the mark of the beast. And now we don't think anything of it.

I'm not kidding. It was a conversation in the house, right? I bet other people have had that too.

But that that fear is going down because we're raising consciousness here. We're struggling

with it on this planet in certain ways. But we have to dislodge some of that negativity and that

pitting one another against each other for like religion or Democrat Republican. And it's coming

to the surface so that we can begin to heal it. And there's avenues such as this that are getting

the word out so that we can raise the consciousness. And so we don't need to be afraid of AI or

transhumanism. I don't mean to say that we should ignore it and pretend that it's not going to

be an issue. But I really feel like we're moving into the space of from what the angels have shown

me and told me into a space of not needing to fear that we're going to become part machine, part

human, right? And so we don't need to fear people. The world is becoming more and more of a beautiful

place. We don't see it all happening at once right now. I know people are worried, fearful,

but things are shifting for the better. And this is how we get there. How is an ATM card,

the mark of the beast? I just felt like that's how you bought and sold things. We have a conversation.

They had to get money from the machine. They had to use the card as a way of getting transactions

or money that and that kind of thing. That was the conversation. They were, I just, yeah.

Oh my God. So if the ATM card giving them issue, I could only imagine when you said, hey guys,

I'm a psychic medium now. That must have gone over a ton of. Well, there was like a good maybe

30 years between that time frame of shift for them going, okay, this isn't going to be the

apocalypse now because people are going to the bank with a machine, right? The machine's taking

over then. You know, people were fearful when they were playing records backwards and getting

messages backwards and records, you know, in the 70s. I remember that and my parents being fearful

of the music we were listening to. And so yeah, I was, I was a little bit of a problem

when I came out with this, but they also knew me as that school teacher and that mom and that,

you know, a very stable individual. My mom always said, you're like the crazy person in the family,

but you're one of the most stable. She's like, well, my kids, if I had to count on someone,

you would be the one I can't hold for something. And so there you go.

That's amazing. We're totally normal. That's crazy people.

Yes. I think that's the term crazy is a whole other conversation. It's just, it's just, you know,

everybody was, everyone thought, you know, so many different visionaries were crazy.

And that kind of moved things forward. I find it funny that I remember that the Catholic church

when glasses were invented, thought that was the devil's work because you're, how who are you

to change God's will that you're losing your sight? We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

And now back to the show. Right. Oh, yeah, I didn't even think of that. I don't remember that,

but I'm sure, yeah, fearfulness, yeah. Yeah, it plays it plays. Yeah, if they're in Galileo,

yeah, he said, gosh, he was, yeah, they wanted him dead poor guy. So, so when you, so as a psychic

medium, um, is an evident, evidential medium means that the kind of readings you do with people

about loved ones that come in, um, usually have some sort of evidence. Can you explain what

evidential means for people who don't understand that? Right. I seek to pull forward as much.

I know you can call it data from whoever I'm linking with. And as the link gets built with someone's

spirit, their soul, if you will, as they step forward and I don't get to choose who decides to

step forward in a reading, they make the decision. I wish I had control of it. I don't. I'm a little

bit of a control freak, but they, they still work with me anyway, but they link in and then my

um, process is I'm like Barbara Walters for this spirit world. I've got the questions and I want

to go for some that are, are quick to get yes or no's. Like I'll ask, um, you know, family, not

family. And then I'll see them stand somewhere besides the person. Um, I'll say hi, Archie, show me,

and they'll stand in a certain way. And I sometimes have to help them, you know, know where to go. And

I just start navigating in my mind of conversation with them to get the information because it's not

conversating or having a conversation like I am with you. It's a, it's energy that's coming through.

That's why it doesn't matter if somebody speaks Spanish or German or, you know, whatever, um,

language in the spirit world that won't make a difference. We're using, um, energetic links they

call them the clairs. You might have heard a clairvoyance, clairsentians, clair audiences hearing.

And so sometimes I'll just hear directly, you know, um, roses here, roses here. And then I,

in your mind or right. I'll hear it in my mind. I do hear not regularly once in a great while,

it'll be outside of my head. They'll get my attention when I'm by myself. I'll hear things,

especially on, um, just flying asleep or waking up. I'll hear certain things. And I think a lot of

people have had that experience. Um, but when I'm doing this on purpose, then I've set up a process

so that I can get in there and get the information. So, and it can be whatever I feel like I'm a,

the dartboard that little kids have with the Velcro balls and spirits just starts growing stuff

at me. So I have to ask questions to get the energy to match up. I have to raise my vibration.

They have to bring it down somewhat. We have to learn to navigate with one another. My energy is

a frequency and a vibration that might be different from a different mediums frequency and vibration.

Right. And so we're, we have to link in. We have to match frequencies and vibrations. So I have to

get them. I have to help them. They help me get on that vibration to pull in the information.

Um, you know, I got, sometimes I get first names and last names, um, you know, for a client.

Um, you know, when I'm doing, um, demos or we call them demos are galas where in front of an

audience and, um, they have to fight a little harder to get themselves known. And I'll say I've got

the grandfather Jack here. He shows me that he was in the Navy. And he wants to say that he had a

problem with his abdomen, even though he passed from the heart. And then, you know, somebody

will raise their hand. That's evidence, right? We're, we're looking at how we can get to some

data point. So someone goes, that's this person. Is there an on and off button for you? Or is it

open or close sign for you? So are you on 24 seven meaning that any moment in your in the shower

and someone pops in? Hey, it's Uncle Bob. Uh, and I actually have an Uncle Bob.

Uncle Bob shows it all the time. Not all the time, but yeah, not in the shower. Um, they just see

us at energy though. Anyway, um, I have how I would describe it as a dimmer switch. Like I will be

more, it's more turned off, but it's not ever just nothing. And sometimes I'll be worn out,

and I don't have to dim the switch. Like I'll have done a damn. I'll have more than one client in a day

or, um, you know, be channeling for something. And I will, um, my energy will feel, um, I'll start

to feel big. Like it'll feel like this. Like my head's out here. And so then it's, it becomes

fuzzier. And I know that I've spent my energy and, um, can't get clarity like I want to after those

moments. So that's a way of, of having my dimmer switch. Um, I, you would think just a glass of wine

would dim the switch, but sometimes it just gets it going. Like my friends know, like, get our

glass of wine and we'll see what happens. They'll, they'll, they'll, well, you know, I have, um, good

friends that up. We've been friends since before high school. And so, um, they're loving and kind

and caring. And it's, we don't make a mockery of the spirit world. But, um, yeah, um, I do, I just

tell them. Back off, not now. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not reading the, the gal at the grocery store.

I'm not, you know, not walking around reading people. I'm just being normal girl right now, getting

my groceries, doing all the things like everybody else does. It's interesting that from my understanding

is that the spirit world, when they're, they're on the other side looking, um, for a way to connect

with their loved ones, let's say, and let's say they hang, they're hanging around, you know,

Beth. So Beth is, you know, she's 45. She's sitting there at the supermarket and, and call Uncle Bob. I

love Uncle Bob. Uncle Bob is there standing with her, just doing what spirits do. They're watching,

they're, they're protecting their guiding, maybe even trying to sneak something into their

intuition or in their mind or something like that. And then all of a sudden, you come along

into the supermarket and they can see you in a way that, that others can't because you're almost

like a beacon of light. It's almost like a ding, ding, ding, ding, kind of thing. And they're like,

oh, there's a medium. I want to talk to Beth. Let me go over to her and see if she could, I mean,

convince her to come over here and tell Beth that something's, something is in the fourth drawer

on the left. And that's where they're going to find the million dollars or something on those slides.

Is that kind of the way it works? Yeah, I mean, it can. So sometimes the spirit will kind of

sets me up and it almost happens the same way every time. I'll be, let's just use the grocery store

because it's literally happened in the grocery store more than once. I'll be in whatever aisle,

looking at whatever and somebody will approach me and say, do you know you look exactly like Sally

Fields? And it's always Sally Fields. And I will say, yeah, I've heard that a few times before.

And they'll be like, you just look so familiar to me. What do you do for a living? And I'll be like,

oh, no, no. Right. Right. And so, yeah, that's a term that I have used before. A school teacher

and all sometimes, you know, I'll say what it is that I do. And I just make the most effort to not

share messages. I just don't think it's ethical to walk around doing that. Somebody approaches me.

I'll say something and we're in a public place. I'll usually just excuse myself. I'll share my name

and if they want to Google it, search it or find me later than they can. Yeah, and that's really

interesting point that you said ethical because there is an ethics to being a psychic medium because

you can, you really could screw up somebody's life very vertically. If you just go around,

start telling people, I got to tell you something, Uncle Bob's here and he cheated on your aunt

and that's what happened. And that's why she killed me. Like, whatever, whatever these kind of

things are, right? I mean, if you throw that at somebody, it could, it could destroy them.

It could use you their life. So really is an ethical thing that psychics have to do, not to,

first of all, not to give information that's unsolicited. Right. Also be careful with solicitation.

Like if someone's coming to you for reading and a message comes through that is, could be very

damaging. I'm assuming there's a failsafe, hopefully, somewhere in the conversation between spirit

and you talking to the client where they would say, you know what, I'm going to reframe this a

little bit. I'm going to take out a couple of these details because this, based on what you're

experiencing is with the client at the time, it could really hurt them. It could really not do what

they're looking for. Is that makes sense? We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

And now back to the show. Right. I'll do and what I train some of my students to do is to step

into the moment. And so I'm going to use a client of mine and he's actually now even in the spirit

world. His sense passed on. And I did have his permission before he passed to share his story.

Part of his story. I wouldn't share somebody. So I'm like a priest that way. I'm not sharing. I don't,

I'm not giving, I'm not saying who came to see me. I'm not any of that. But he's given permission

and now he's in the spirit world. So Ed came for reading very well-dressed man suit. Came in

looking very dapper probably at that point in time. He was in his late 70s when I first

met him, sat down in my chair in my reading room. And I start picking up on this female and she's

coming into view. And she's standing there by a lamp light, like a lamp post. And I could see

the San Francisco pier, pier 39 behind her. And she had a big toothy grin on her face. She was an

older woman. And all of the sudden sailors in the vision that I was being given were walking by her.

And I'm like, oh, I'm just in my head. I'm like, hmm. And so I said, I'm a female here. And she's

standing near the San Francisco pier by a street lamp. She's giving me very positive energy vibes.

And so I'm stepping into the energy. She really likes her job. She's smiling to me. And she really

likes her job. And he just starts, once I said lamp post and pier, he just starts nodding

like this. And so I said, so she shows me a happy face and that she really liked man, makes sense.

And so I'm stepping into it. And so he's like, yep, makes sense. And so I keep going, turns out

that his mom was known as the happy hooker. And that was his mom. Right. And so I went,

she shows me that she's happy. She wants to mention that she really, really likes men. And she's

happy and happy about it. And he said, well, my mom was known as the happy hooker. So you can't make

that up. But I stepped into it, right? Like I want to, I don't want to shock someone. I don't

want to say, was your mom a hooker? Right? Like that's, you want to step into the message at times

in order to present things. You know, when I've seen murder suicides, I want to start with a way,

I want to step into the message to not retraumatize someone. And I ask people, do you want to know

everything? You know, and most people say, yes, some people say that they don't want to know that

they're going to die. And I'll say, oh, no, we're all going to die. So I just kind of breaks the

ice with that. And I always just tell them that I don't know when they're going to die. It's above

my pay grade. So I'm not going to see that most likely. So we, I proceed from that space of wanting

to also hold space for the client, but I have to be that voice for spirit. I've had people tell

me they've had a loved one come in and they tell me they don't want to speak to that person.

And I'm like, well, in my head, I'm like, you got to go. You got to, you got to go. Like some,

you know, and sometimes I have to say something for that soul because I serve spirit first.

And then I serve the client. So every now and then I have to say something and it'll get them to go

so that somebody else can come in. And you know, as evidential as I like to be, sometimes there's

just a piece that I don't get. Like I'm, I'm going for it. I'm doing all the tab dancing I can in my

head to, to reach for the information of somebody's got a question or something. But if I don't see it,

I can't give it. And so it breaks my heart and it's, it's, it's, I want to be able to give all

of the evidence in the world that I give what I get. And then I can't stay upset.

Fair enough. Fair enough. Now you mentioned as well that you started channeling.

That's like I said, you have the trifecta. And you do multiple versions of trans, you do

trans channeling. You could also just direct conversation with jelly and you do the angelic

room, right? To channel the angelic room. Yes. So when you say the angelic room is it the arch

angels? This is just the realm of angels in general. And there's a collective of angels speaking

to you. How is that work? Right. And so it can depend on the situation that I'm in. And so

someone's guardian angels might step forward in that way or a group of guardian angels. So

if I'm going into transfer an individual, then it would be their team of guardian angels.

And then arch angels that would be working with them. But if I'm doing it for a larger scale

kind of audience, it, it's mostly been the arch angels. And sometimes they'll call themselves

the angels of the Akash, or they'll be angels that, I don't know if they, I would call them

guardians of the Akash, or somehow there's somehow angelic gatekeepers for the Akash. And I want

to clarify what the angels have told me who they are. And so they're involved souls over eons

and eons of time that didn't necessarily have an earthly life. There are a few exceptions. But

they have, they're evolved souls that took on the role or the job, if you will, of being an angel.

And when we think about the arch angels, we can see that, that that's a role that they've taken

on. Archangel Raphael being an healer angel, right? Archangel Ariel, lioness of God, right? Our guardian

angels come with us lifetime over lifetime. And it's not past lives, if you will, like we think of it,

you know, we think of time in a straight line fashion, in a linear fashion, but it's really kind

of the ever present now. And so, but they're there with all of us, as we're experiencing things,

because they don't, they aren't limited by time or space, such as we are. But they're evolved

souls. And sometimes we get the impression that's how I've learned what they've told me, what I

grew up getting the impression was that that God made them from the ever present now, if you will,

only to be guardian angels or arch angels or seraphim or, you know, the hierarchy as it exists.

And that's not the experience that they've shared with me, but they over their evolution

of their particular energy, their soul, if you will, that they took on a role or a job

to become whatever the guardian angel, the arch angel, the seraphim, and that they step up into

like a position or a job based on that level of evolution. Beautifully said. So, can we do a

little channeling? Yeah, let's do that. So can you explain to everybody what's your process in

channeling? I take a moment to quiet my mind. I've trained in meditation, and so I know I'm

going from my beta here, having this conversation into alpha, and then sometimes even deeper. And so

I'm here, I'm still here, but I'm not here, if you will. I just let the energy flow through me

by changing my brain state of from one step. Thank you. Sorry, they're interrupting me already.

I just kind of go quiet, and then there'll be the shift. Be direct. If you like, straight forward,

you can talk loud. They don't mind. I'm not sure exactly who's going to want to step forward. I feel

a group gathering themselves already. And think of it's okay to want to know and to push for

something direct. Like yesterday, someone wanted to say, will there be earthquakes in California,

and then they went right into explaining how they saw from the Akash, how that may unfold for us,

and things that were already destined, and then say things that weren't. So know that they're very,

they can be very clear, and direct when they can be. Okay. I like direct angels.

It's okay if I beat around the bush, but I just can't stand. Yeah. Okay. Okay. You're going to

get along great. Okay. We are present with you here and excited to hear what you would like

to know. Thank you for being here. My first question is, what is the current energetic trajectory

of humanity, and how close are we to a collective of awakening? We'll be right back after a word

from our sponsor. And now back to the show. There are pockets already in existence on your planet

with a tipping point. There are beacons of light in areas in just about every corner of the world.

These lights are such as a candle lighting one another as it goes. There is a back and forth

for there is levels of darkness, if you will, that have been seeking to blow out some of these candles.

But it was with great pleasure to see that frequency and vibrations are holding stronger.

And holding the light stronger. There is a movement into your year of 2027 where there will be

an experience that you have. And even with your show, we speak directly to you, Alex, that will

provide more information and expansion to light people up even more. That will not be the

complete tipping point that you are asking for. But you will see the signs around you begin to shift.

As you notice anger in your world and points of war, that we let you know assuredly that these

things can turn into blessings, perhaps not in the moment. And we do not want to suggest that

anybody's pain or suffering is of joy to any of us here in the angelic realms.

But to know that it is for not that souls have chosen to wake themselves up in a particular way,

such as with some force or aggression. And that is a wake up in some form to dislodge

things as they are to disturb the status quo, to shake the foundations of society so that

these pockets of darkness no longer have the threatening hold that they have had on humanity

for so long. The awakening is happening. It is a movement. It will continue to move forward.

You will have more and more signs of this and be more assured of this as you move into.

The year of 2027 and even beyond that more that does not mean that there won't be

pockets of challenge and suffering on your planet. There will be, we see this as a sure thing

that in the Americas there will be a desire to clean up the soil and food sources.

And Alex, we say to you that this will be a sign in your heart and mind. And the connections

that you will be building and the more knowing of things to come will become lighter

steps for you to recognize. And we ask you, Alex, too, in your heart and mind when you need to be

held sure that things are moving in a good direction for you or your family, those that you love

or the public in general to call upon Archangel Aurel for it is I who will light some of your path

for you so that you can hold steadfast in your divine calling to be part of the awakening as you

have a solid foundation as roots of a tree into the ground in this process. And we thank you

for you taking that on as a part of your birthright, your sole contract and fulfillment of that is

in process. Thank you so much for that. Is it, is there a year that you can tell us or close to

that there is this tipping point in consciousness where love will outweigh fear,

global scale? We see where you are going with your question, but we would like to pose somewhat of a

perception that growth and expansion, knowledge and learning often comes through

some challenges. The obstacles in your way help to grow you and evolve you. And so the tipping point

is on an individual basis. We value that as much as seeing humanity as a whole,

shipped into a yearly number, if you will. The number is harder to see for the year of a great

tipping point that way. But as hearts and minds of individuals tip, we rejoice in that. And more and

more is happening now. It's interesting to see because they tip one way, they tip back at times

through challenges and struggles. And the expansion for love and kindness, harmony, living in one's

felicity is of a challenge, but it is designed in such a way so that you can admire someone's

peace even in the moment of challenge. You can see the growth that you have taken on from times of

discord and imbalance in your life to finding that balance and then holding your balance.

Now in such a way that is easier for you because of those challenges so to dissolve

darkness completely, perhaps would be a disservice. How does that sit with you?

That's it's fine. That's it's fine. Is there a divine timeline or sequence of events that we

should be preparing for spiritually? On an individual basis, this is always the case for every

lifetime carries that light within them to move that direction. And then through many lifetimes or

life experiences that can grow as humanity as a whole, as a collective consciousness is in a movement

towards more light, towards more peace. This will be evident as your earth shakes in some ways

and earth changes happen so that the unity that exists inside of each of you becomes more important

than the division. It is through the division that exists that is keeping you all from reaching

that tipping point. We value that term. It is quite appropriate to think of a tipping point as a

direction to cross over a threshold to hold more of a balance towards one another of love and

immunity. For you already all are in unity. You have decided to, as a humanity, as a collective

consciousness, to experience the challenge of disconnection. So we feel you are mostly speaking of

the reconnection of the live and let live be at peace. You may be different from me. I will

honor your differences while you honor mine. It is a movement in that direction as you will witness

through earth changes and mother earth changes that will support one another needing to come together

despite differences in places of the world that will need it. While you are not there now, we say that

this is soon. And when we say soon, we mean in a lifetime. Soon does not mean tomorrow or next

week, but it will be perhaps in the lifetimes of both you, Alex and Leanne sitting here in many

listening will experience more of this while there will still be some discord and still be

differences as you experience the world shifting and changing and perhaps shaking that you will see

one another come together more. This will be a beautiful and glorious way to experience

challenge on your planet. Will it not? It will. It will. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

And now back to the show. How can humanity and also as an individual, how can we more align more

deeply with our divine purpose during times of global unrest? This is the beautiful and magic

question. Must start from within. Check on your own discord, your own challenges from within

of where you are negative towards the self if each individual checked in with their personal

demons, if you will. In the mind, the beating of oneself, the thrashing of oneself and start there

be kind to the self and then reach out with that kindness to all that in your sphere,

family or friends or neighbors. Don't forget about the animal kingdom and we reach out that way.

And then you reach out as you who have the platform to reach many of spreading the word of

challenging people to see how they can be a force of peace in the world in their minds and in their

hearts for prayer, positive intention and thought reaching collaborative meditations.

Wishing good will and forgiveness from the heart to someone that perhaps doesn't even deserve it,

but you do it because you want to be a force of peace in the world. If each and every individual

light which you all are decided to be a force of peace in the world, we would see these complex

and these challenges of warring and territory and lack mentality would end. This is the way

towards it, but it must start from within each and every individual person. It is the man in the mirror

first. How do angels help bridge the gap between human doubt and divine trust?

The silent whisper, the small voice inside that almost sounds like your own. It's the inspiration

that we bring together in. We are at your back and call at a moment's notice. We cannot

interfere with the trajectories of an individual life or the plans that each individual has set

into motion. For your life plan is divine. It is between you and your soul and the infinite

divine. The all that is that has no form but brings form to everything is where the design comes

from. We won't interfere and it can be hard to understand why. Is there a universal soul blueprint

that ties all of human souls together? There is a source energy connection that existence

vibes from. It is a frequency that can be at times felt as a sound or a vibration,

but it does link all things together through time and space. It is a living force, if you will,

that connects all, moves through all. If you are to think of the smallest particle that you could

think of, nanoparticles, neutrinos, neutrinos move very singularly. They move through every cell of

your body. The neutrino that moves through you perhaps moved through a dinosaur and another being

and they flow through connecting things, gathering energy and sharing energy as they move through.

Yes, there is a force that moves through you, that moves through all, all that is.

How do generational souls contribute to long-term healing and evolution on?

It is through the connection, if you are to remove perceptions of time and space.

When we think of generational, there is a passing forward of DNA, of cellular essence,

from one to another generation to generation and picking up the torch as it were,

from grandparents to child to grandchild and threads of that energy move through

and in an effort to expand upon information, knowledge and data that exists from one lifetime

to another and the idea of healing comes from the perception that consciousness is expanding.

It is an exciting thing that the looking at from the perspective of trauma was placed here

and how can we do better is a healing and that threads that pass through and effort to create that

healing are cords of source energy that have that love expansion and as that healing occurs,

if we were to use the word healing, it creates a vibration in a generation and they pick up the

vibration and they pick up inspiration and they think of desires to do things different or better

other than that was taught and they move forward with it and new things can expand and grow from that.

Is there more you would like to ask on this? Have we answered to your liking?

Yes, you have a couple more questions. How can we better recognize signs and messages from

the angelic realm in our daily lives? More is being interpreted and picked up

than the mind sometimes wants to accept. You become more accepting. You participate in the

receiving. You acknowledge something interesting, synchronistic, perhaps fun or enlightening.

So through the notes of a song, the words spoken from somebody in front of you at line at your

coffee house, the finding of a feather or a coin and cherish that moment as being

divinely held and acknowledged acknowledgement will go a very long way for others

play with the acknowledgement. Question it, it's okay and also secretly in your heart know that

you have been given a nod from the angelic realms, from the spirit realms and other beings of light

and maybe just hold it in your heart for a while and keep it a secret. Others may want to

dim that light, sharing with everyone isn't necessary but holding it into your heart is very helpful.

What are the most misunderstood aspects of divine guidance from the angelic realm?

And what aspect would you like to approach that?

I don't really know that the aspect of there's a lot of myths, there's a lot of misunderstandings

about what the angelic realm can guide us or angels can guide us with angel numbers and

signs and butterflies that show up and these kind of things that are signs from the angelic

realm guidance but there's a lot of misunderstandings can you kind of clarify what those are?

The concept of being fixed or problem solved for you is not in your true, in your essence from

your soul truly wanted. Therefore we will not interfere with your decision making or your free will.

We will allow for you to walk the journey on both free will and and destiny and we will support that.

We will continue to be the whisper but we won't intervene to create something that will throw you

ultimately off a lesson or a learning path for you want your lessons, you desire growth and

evolution. So we will step aside for that. So that is a misconception. Most people feel that they

are we, they should ask us and we should solve problems for you. Not necessary, you are good,

you are fine. There are so many wars going on right now currently in the world.

Is there any end and to this any end in sight with these wars or even new potential wars that

are starting to bubble up? The energy of war still exists on the planet and exist in even in

individuals where they are worrying with yourself as individuals continue to war within themselves

until you do reach that tipping point where people surrender themselves into divine love and

guidance that wars will continue to break out. Perhaps it will dwindle over time and

discourages but this is something that will take much time will not be quick will not be soon

on your planet. We see more involvement into war like behavior in what you will call your near

future. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

And now back to the show. Some expansion of this will happen but we ask you to fear not

for you are participating in those listening here in the weakening of this energy.

But as the energy displays you will find some of these squirmishes

loosen their tight hold on the planet more quickly than others but we do not see this ending

perhaps in several decades or more that is not to say current

wars will exist the same as they do before that will not be the case. We sense that at your time

of about 2027 and perhaps a little further in there will be a slowdown of this activity.

Unfortunately there will be an uptick or the potential for the uptick of it happening again

but as you continue to do your work and those listening do their part

there is a softening that happens even if the tipping point isn't here so please do not be discouraged

with the news of war and the threat of wars and the worry of war you're being divinely held

and protected as to not destroy one another this will not be allowed but the experience of war

in some way is still desired by some on your planet. Unfortunately we see this being the case

for quite some time. And finally do you have any parting messages for the audience or is there

something that is the message that you want humanity to hear right now? Your soul has a plan

your life is a value and you are all all listening important and valuable the thoughts that you

bring into the world about yourself and where you live are a value as well we ask you to check those

thoughts we ask you to bring some gentleness and kindness into your thoughts.

We desire for each of you to know that you matter and when you feel that you matter you can spread

and share the knowledge of that no too that no soul will be in harm's way with any or changes

but things happening on your planet unless it has already been in your divine plan.

Of your making or choosing so you need not worry you will not be in harm's way from a soul

perspective it will all be for meaning you are safe you are protected and you are watched over

and loved we ask for you please call upon us think of your guardian angels as your friends

hmm think of the archangels as helpers and you are not bothering the spirit world by asking for help

so please do know that we won't interfere with your life's journey but knowing that we are there

and watching the synchronicities and the signs as Alex so well knows of them hmm has shared them

with you here today please pick those things up in your heart and mind and move forward with them

to be that force of peace in the world that you all can be and with that we will close.

How are you doing Leanne? I'm good I think my eyes are watering sorry if I

have enough water here please please of course a lot of energy coming through

was that helpful I hope it was it was beautiful yeah it was beautiful it was beautiful energy that

came through I think it's it's gonna help some people that's the things yeah it's gonna help some

people now Leanne I'll ask you a few questions I ask all my guests okay what is your definition of

living a fulfilled life for me a fulfilled life is uncovering and discovering purpose or I should

say like my purpose and then using that as a source of helping others in the world very fulfilling

to be of giving of talents that's very fulfilling I think gratitude bring you know the gratitude for

that brings fulfillment to people and looking at even our challenges is growing and evolving us

and making me into something started as a lump of coal and some point of diamond I'm hoping

that's fulfillment is using your gifts and talents if you had a chance to go back in time and

speak to little Leanne what advice be brave um trust your intuition and and floss daily

also take care of your knees you'll miss them when they're gone

that's very true um what and what would little Leanne tell you right now what advice would

hmm you've got this you're doing it you're making magic happen don't give up beautifully said

how do you define God or source energy um divine conscious intelligence that has no form but brings

form to all beautiful definition um what is love from a human perspective it is the experience of

connectedness um if you could ask God one question what would it be why is there adult acne

I really that been wanting to ask that for a long time um true that yeah um I think I just

have silly things to ask God like that um uh gosh yeah don't ask a good question that's fine

it's not to get a good question hey leave it at that I'll leave it at that that's I'm not going to

like that I did that but there it is it's fine the most profound question we've had on this show

what's up with this adult acne uh me it's just me man there's no point in it from

so um how do you define liberation in this lifetime um

freedom to me is through my soul and through my free will and my choosing liberation is breaking

free from my ego mind and the challenges and my fear based thinking and beliefs breaking free

of fear and what is the ultimate purpose of life reach for the inner peace that exists when

within us all the time even in moments of challenge beautifully said and where could people find

out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world um my website is angelichope.com

um I will be up and down California coast in San Jose areas coming soon um with events um

Facebook and Instagram is Leanne Thomas medium simple is that and do you have any

messages to the audience for the audience be kind to yourself be kind start there

Leanne it has been an absolute pleasure talking to you it's been such a wonderful conversation uh

I love the angelic realm and the angels that came today I think they're their energy is going to help

a lot of people watching this episode uh currently and in the future so I appreciate you and

everything you do into awaken this planet so thank you thank you as well it's just I'm so tickled

pink to be here so thank you thank you for spending this sacred time with us today if you feel

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