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I'd like to welcome back to the show Returning Champions, Lee Carroll, and Monica Moroni.
How are you doing, guys?
We are great.
I've never been called a champion.
I know.
I like it.
I like it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes, you've been on the show a few times, and it's always a joy talking to you guys and
talking to Kyron, obviously, and a lot of the stuff that he was saying a few years ago,
and I say he for lack of a better word, but it's starting to come true in many ways.
Yeah.
Funny how that is, and by what you can call crying a he, there is no gender on the other
side of the veil.
And yet we genderize everything because we're human, so, you know.
Right.
So yeah, if it's, it's he or she, I channel it, you know, it's, it's, yeah, it doesn't
have the same connection.
No.
And Kyron, Kryon, Kryon, it's Kryon, and if I say Kyron, please forgive me because I come
from the old world of television where Kyrons would be coming up on the screen, those
with a look, and just the Kyrons always in my head.
So please forgive me if I say it accidentally.
I come from the same place you do.
You know, exactly, so you know, exactly what I'm talking about talking about.
So it's all is forgiven.
Okay.
Appreciate it.
Remind me, Kryon, I mean, remind me if what, who, who Kryon is, is it a, it's a collective
or is it an individual?
It's hard to describe, except what would you say an angel was?
That's how it feels.
Okay.
This entity, unlike some other channels, has never been a human.
It's not a group of a certain kind.
It's always felt like angelic energy to me, but you pegged it.
It's always a group because angelic energy is a group, even though we tend to make it
singular, put skin and wings on it and give it a name.
That's what we do.
But true, divine angelic energy always has a group feel to it.
You get many hugs.
All right.
Fantastic.
So my first question to you is, what is the most important thing humanity is not
seen clearly right now?
Humanity is not seeing clearly that we have passed a marker that is incredibly important
to us.
We're looking right now at what Kryon also predicted about this year, 2026, the number
of attributes, but mainly it's not seeing the fact that we are actually coming out of
the dark.
And it's not something we made up.
It's not something that's new age, even the ancients gave a timing.
I mean, it's all part of what the Mayans talked about and their calendar.
It's there for us to see.
It's a 36 year period.
It's been very well documented that there was going to be trouble in the year 2000s.
I mean, even the church said so.
And we have come to the actual end of that and now we're starting to climb out of it.
And this is very much what Kryon talked about when he came in in 1989.
So we're looking at something that is actually very positive and very exciting.
And most of the, you know, that we talked to just regular folks saying what's going
on to the planet.
We've got another war.
Here we go again.
Is it going to be a nuclear?
Is it going to whatever and not really seeing truly what's happening?
Let me just give you there are many attributes of this year that Kryon started talking about
actually in December and then started talking about this energy.
What we're in is, it's a cliche to say we're a new energy is an energy we have never experienced
before.
Now that's, that's profound.
We're at a place we've never experienced before.
One of the things that Kryon speaks about that look forward to is the closure of things
that have always simply hung out and not been closed.
It's time to have a final dealing with things that are not settled.
And then February, we got the war.
And if you take a look at what it is about, that's what it's about.
It's very, very clear.
People are finding this to in their own lives.
We're starting to see closure on things that haven't been closed before, opening to new
beginnings that haven't been there before.
There's just a whole series of things that this energy is bringing forward.
And people are very consumed, I would think of the negative.
If I had anything to say to your listeners, I'll say it yet again.
I said it on every single broadcast.
Stop watching the news, get written, go find it because a written news is going to be
from a journalist.
I can guarantee it.
It's not, and when you see it on TV, it's, that's entertainment.
And that's how they're selected.
By the way, they got, they got a sound right, look right, act right.
But when you get a journalist who cares what they look like, that's their profession.
We're going to get a better news from a journalist.
Fair enough, fair enough.
Now, what is the biggest illusion people are living under today?
To me, it's the same one that we're going to hell in a hazbasket.
And it's not true.
No, it is not true.
And yet, if you watch the news, it is true.
I mean, most of the media has an agenda.
It's such a basic agenda that you'll laugh.
They want you to buy stuff.
I mean, there is no conspiracy here to grab you, you know, and put you in a box and control
you as much as it is to buy things.
And that is what is, it's always that way.
And you can see it in every, that's, that's our culture, folks.
So you can watch it on the media as well.
They will first of all, they've biased themselves to one way or the other so that certain group
will watch them more.
And then they give you the, the news in such a way that you want to continue tuning in
because they're always on the edge of your seat.
And there's always bad stuff to hear and it is on and on.
That unfortunately has been the paradigm since I, since I got what the news has, you know,
has been, but it's got a lot worse in these last few years.
What kind of inner work is no longer an option for an optional for the next phase of humanity?
There's a lot of times we keep pushing things away and pushing things away.
And like, oh, later I'll get to it later, I get to it.
What's not optional anymore?
I think it's building on all the questions you were asking previously about what's up for
humanity, what doesn't service anymore, what's the illusions.
A lot of that is the illusion that we're here as victims and that there is, so think of
the programming that comes from media with programming fear.
And the reason you do that is because you then want to offer a solution.
And we get addicted to hearing tuning in.
What's the latest thing that I have to be aware of or pay attention to and fear?
And that's always an opportunity to step into your power of how you can overcome fear.
And I feel that what's not going to work anymore is trying to feed the program of fear because
when you become self-realized, you are aware that we're not here by accident.
We're here on purpose and that we are not victims, we are powerful co-creators.
And you have that awareness of that who you are, any fear story that comes to you or anyone
that's trying to tell you, no, your victims, your powerless, you can't control what's happening
around you, it's not going to work.
And the ones that kind of are showing us, the way showers that are emerging are the indigos.
If you've never heard of the term indigo, Lee and his wife at the time, Jan Tober, released
a book in 1999 called The Indigo Children.
And they were simply those coming to the planet with a different consciousness.
They had a different wiring, if you like.
And they were here as system busters because they could look around and see dysfunction.
And they would react to that and they don't want to be part of a system that's dysfunctional.
So they want to break down those paradigms of dysfunction and create from that place where
kindness matters, compassion, tolerance, integrity, balance and wisdom.
So I think the place of where we're going is the ability to see, recognize and discern wisdom.
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And that's what is really coming out of this shift, all the history that keeps repeating
itself, it's like a cycle where you didn't realize war does nothing but cause suffering
and pain and loss on both sides.
And it's not the solution for moving forward.
And when Lee said there's a new energy on the planet that's never been here before, it's
about having solutions to things that were never solvable before.
And there was a really fantastic channel from Kryon, given maybe a few months ago called
the fog of war, even that title, doesn't that just spell the fog of war?
And we're really moving to that place where that fog is lifting and we're seeing it for what
it is.
And not anymore.
We can't have generations coming in that will have the story, okay, these are my enemies.
These are the people I have to hate.
And we're just going to perpetuate that cycle.
It's dysfunctional.
And wisdom sees dysfunction in that and says, no, there's another model, another paradigm.
And we're really in that transitional stage.
What's interesting is when I was talking to a friend of mine who's a world class astrologer
and we were talking about how the planets are moving into places they have never been
before that she's seen in all of her career of looking at them.
And this year of 2025 is where they're kind of settling in to this new shift.
And that next year we're really going to see the changes of all these settling in a much
more positive benevolent way.
So all I can say is hold on, stay the course, stay fast because we're in this period where
the dust is settling, we're cleaning out house, we're renovating, we're getting ready
for the launching pad of the new to come.
Now when you said 2025, you meant 2026, right?
I meant 2025 was that year of all that people change and 2026 is where it's settling into
all the changes that happened in 2025.
And Quinn even says 25 marked the end of the battle of dark and light.
In these next five years, 26, 27, 28, 29 and 30, they're the last five years of the shift,
but you're coming out of it in those five years.
So 26 is the first of five.
Got you.
And then when you said that, Lee, when you were saying that there's no, that this has never
happened before and Kyron, Kyron, Kyron, you see, Kryon said that he was also saying
in regards to, I mean, obviously there's Atlantis and the ideas of Atlantis.
This is beyond not just this cycle of human evolution, but all of humanity on this planet
has never been like this before.
No, never has been.
And that includes any civilization that has ever been here.
And some of the ancient ones that had a higher kind of what we say consciousness, no,
this is completely new.
And I will give you the metaphor, I mean, I don't think I did it before, but it's a good
one.
And it's one that you can look at and go, yeah, that's right.
If you look at human consciousness, what Kyron has said is that it never, ever changed.
And so what we had was what we call human nature.
Do you ask sociologists, human nature is just, it's a staple, it never changes.
Well, it does.
And it can.
We just never have seen it change because we've always been in the same old energy like
a railroad track and we're the train in a circle.
And we never got out of the circle.
So we keep running over the same old energy, the same problems and the same issues.
And that creates war after war after war after war.
We just have war and we take breaks, then we have another war and we take a break and
we have another war, including the last two we had, where we just took a break and it
was the same players added again.
I mean, it's so obvious how this has worked for us, no matter how enlightened or whatever
the, you know, inventions we have right into the nuclear age, we're ready to do it again.
All of these things that what people are afraid of.
And that in the process of that, something has happened and it has the cosmology really
has told us about it from the ancients, a siding appears, a siding.
So if you're a railroad nut, you know that when you have a siding, you have a switch and
you then you go off to the side and you're trained and goes to another track, this is
what has happened.
And this was always the opportunity.
There is a wonderful prophecy on that from the Hopi Indians, it's called the Hopi Prophecy
Rock and you go there and it actually shows the siding.
It is a, it's one that says, that's their cosmology, which is very much like the ones in
Peru, the Mayan, that talks about this time in history, the 2000s and the issues that
may happen and the choices we would have to make and it actually shows the siding.
That's what we are on.
So we are now in an energy that we've never been before because we're off that track.
So even ancients were on that track and we are not anywhere near anything that's ever
been before.
One of the things that people are reacting to is that when we go into an area we've never
been, there's always apprehension and there's apprehension from even the best mind saying
we don't know really what we're going to do and where we're going because it hasn't
been really prophesied or the prophecies we had haven't happened.
And that's, and if any of you follow some of the older channels that said certain things
would happen and that's on the old track and they probably would, had we stayed on the
old track, but we're not there.
So now we're in a new area where really it seems that there's uncertainty coming but
from my standpoint and what we say, there is another metaphor and crying has said the snowball
is rolling down the hill.
Now what that means is that the snowball has an attribute.
If we see a snowball rolling down the hill and it's gathering speed and size and here
it comes, you know some things right there.
You know that there's gravity, it's big, it's rolling in that direction and there's
a tree down there and it's probably going to hit it.
Are you a prophet if you say the tree is going to be hit by the snowball or are you just
logical?
You can see it.
This is what we're talking about.
We are on this track in this new energy and crying it says that's our snowball and it's
going to lead to things you don't expect.
And he's called him, he says watch for new alliances between countries that never have
a lot.
That's actually in process now and that's what crying was talking about in 2025.
He says there are things happening geopolitically you didn't expect.
They are.
It's not who is right or wrong here or whether you like one part of you or the other.
It's just matter of fact.
Take a look at what's going on on the planet right now on the things that were predicted
or not predicted and you will find the snowball, I'll name the snowball, the high enlightened
piece on earth.
And we're headed in that direction because we're going to get to a place where there's
more there's more teller here, we're going to get to a place also we didn't expect where
our culture starts to change.
I'll just I'll just label it now in 1999 and Monica brought it up.
I wrote a book for a house called The Indigo Children.
It was the best selling book they had of the year and there were a million people that
reacted to that.
They said, yeah, I've got kids like that.
And what what crime was showing was a new kind of child was being born at that time that
seemed like a troublemaker, but a generation later, they will do things you've never seen
before.
And one of them is happening right now, Alex, and that is you have young people doing
podcasts, millions of other young people on esoteric things, things that most young people
in my day could never have cared less about.
They don't want anything to do with it.
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They are, you know, they've got lives, they've got fun, they got parties, they got places
to go, they got music and whatever.
And you're not going to have anybody, you know, say, look, I'd like y'all to gather around
and like to tell you about past lives, you know, get away, get away.
The day literally by the millions, this is happening and it's Indigos.
It's just one of the things, but it's right on target.
If you, if you start taking a look at a generation, which is often 30 years, 25 years from the
birth, 1999 is when the information was, was came out, they're here.
And they're just at the right age and you're starting to see them going into Congress,
going into corporate, going into education, going into medicine and starting to make the
same kind of waves they did when they were a little.
And for the same reasons, and this is the, I would say the reason they're here, the
reason you're here, the reason so many are here that are doing, now that's, that's
unexpected.
That's part of this new energy that Brian says, we've never seen anything like that.
That is a change in human nature, my friend, and that is what we're looking at.
That's fascinating.
Well, I hope, I think you were saying that I'm a young person, so I appreciate that
very much.
You are, when you, when you look at how old I am, you are a young person.
You represent a generation and you're talking to both sides, but you definitely are an
Indigo person, even if you're older Indigo, you know you are.
Well, I am a troublemaker.
That's for damn sure.
I've been since I was born in the 70s.
I've been nothing but a troublemaker.
Yep.
Well, since I was born in the 40s, you can see what's going on there.
I understand now why you calling me, but I do, I just, that often I'm called that.
My, my, my kids always call me the old man.
So I appreciate it.
What, what do they know?
Monica, let me ask you something.
Do you, do you, there's a lot of fear going on right now about a lot of things, about
the unknown and all this thing.
But my take has always been that we have guardrails put on on us.
That's there, there are, there are points that will not be crossed because in any
logical sense, we should have destroyed ourselves a hundred times already with the kind of
weapons that we have, but yet we haven't.
Even with insane people in political offices around the world and in craziness and dictators
and all of this and it hasn't happened.
Would you agree with that?
Do you have any other insight into this guardrail system that we have?
I believe at least I love sharing what I gleaned from Cryon's wisdom and cryon gave
many channels on fear because it is something that we deal with.
And there's different faces of fear.
There's fear that is for survival.
So if you are crossing a street and a car is coming and you're about to be hit,
you get that fear so that you're compelled to do action for your survival.
That's very real fear.
We have those kinds of fears for survival.
We also have fear that we create.
We're very good at creating fear for ourselves and that's when we project into the
unknown into the future and we spin on the what if scenarios.
And we take a look at the evidence that's around us and we want to project what that's
going to be in the future and it creates fear.
So there are fears that you create and the way that Cryon says we can move through
that is to bias ourselves with positive expectation.
You can pave away with your consciousness of creating a benevolent path in front of
you and part of that is knowing that like you said, there's a barrier, the guardrails.
What represents those guardrails?
The inner eternal soul that you have that's always connected to the angelic realm where
you can't have fear.
It doesn't exist where you have a pure stream of a consciousness that is flooded with love,
compassion, benevolence.
You cannot coexist with fear and that place at the same time.
But the easiest way for us to be in that place is the state of gratitude.
So when you start affirming the things you're grateful for when you have that real deep
gratification for the things that are going well, you can't have fear at the same time as
being grateful.
Then there's another type of fear that Cryon has explained that comes from past life experiences.
And you can have residues of that because these are multi-dimensional energies and experiences,
what is it that we know about multi-dimensionality?
In a multi-dimensional state, time does not exist.
Time is limited to the 3D world, high length with breadth and time.
When you have no time, that is multi-dimensional.
So that's why you can have a past life expression where you might have drowned,
you might have burnt on fire.
So you carry that residual of that very dramatic event into your current life.
And it's a residual of fear.
And these are things that many therapists out there have been able to assist others
in releasing them, clearing them, working with the Akashic records, doing past life regression,
or having such an experience of touching the essence of your soul that it instantly dissolves.
Those kinds of traumatic experiences, there's many different ways of how to move through
and release those experiences. And one of the other residues we carry as a global family
is the doom bias. Because we've had history repeat itself, we've had so my grandparents,
they were born in Hungary, they went through World War I and World War II,
and you carry that residual, well, there's going to be a World War III isn't there,
because we've already gone through one and two, and then we see these situations seemingly
happen again as the trigger of what happened last time. Of course, we're going to have a doom
bias to expect the worst. Think about your own life. If you've had something go wrong,
you're kind of hesitant to try it again. Don't want to go through that pain, that experience,
that it won't work. So releasing that doom bias, I can't emphasize that enough, because Crane has
said, we are on that snowball of peace, as Lee mentioned, but the timing of it is up to us.
So the more we say, I don't know, I'm not sure all these signs, it doesn't look good,
that delays the snowball of peace. The more of us can be empowered and be in that connection,
where we have crossed that threshold of the Battle of Dark and Light and Armageddon. We've
crossed it. There are so many signs that point to that. So it is about claiming it,
stating it, affirming it, and visualizing it, and projecting it onto
not just the global family of humanity, but for your own personal life. This is the year
where everything turns around. One of the other things in the energy we've never seen on the
planet before, is that your consciousness, when you start pushing positive expectation,
in an older energy, you were always faced against a pushback of pushing you back,
you're a troublemaker, sitting in the corner. In the past, you may have even been killed for
your enlightenment. This is the year where that changes, and your consciousness is matched by an
energy that is here to support it, no more pushback. So this is where Cryon has been telling all of us,
say yes to things you might have said no to, go to a place where someone invites you and you would
always say no I'm not going there, that's not for me. Go and see, because perhaps there's someone
you need to meet there that takes you to another direction. In other words, you have to get out of
your comfort zone, your comfort bubble of where you're used to operating and working and manifesting
as a light worker to move into other areas that are not necessarily what you would have chosen or
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Beautifully said, beautifully said. Now we keep speaking about this Cryon guy.
Is there a way to bring him in to ask him a few questions? Sure, but before we do that,
please. I would like to just back up a little bit and tell you that according to Nancy Tappy,
who was the one who identified the Indigo children, there were Indigo children in the 60s.
So just in, I think you know you are one and you could be a precursor to the ones that we're talking
about, but there's no question, even as I look at you, I am so familiar with the Indigo child,
and I say attributes that make no mistake in that. Then the next one is I love to talk about
things that we don't have answers to because they're fun to talk about. And you just ask one.
You want to know, is it possible they're guardrails? Now, I know there are because Cryon has
talked about it. This was about, I would say 10 years ago or so, there was some conference that
Elon Musk was at before he was Mr. Tesla and all the SpaceX and all that, where they talk about
esoteric things and ask him with all the attributes you know, does it appear we're in a simulation?
And he said yes. And so you start looking at that, I ask Cryon, are we in a simulation? Cryon says,
you're indefinitely in a test of consciousness. Then I said, are there controls? And Cryon says,
do you mean are there limits that change? And I said yes. And he said yes. He said, whatever you do
with free choice and snaps other things into place. And for instance, the availability for certain
kinds of inventions. Have you ever noticed that Earth gets inventions all at once? We only beat the
right, I mean, the right brothers only beat the French by two weeks. They were all thinking the same
things the right brothers just did it first. And there's all a minute Marconi with radio was so
was so simultaneously with others that they still argue who got their first. So here are things
that are given to the Earth seemingly all at once. That's like a control. That's like a
something's going on that perhaps appears as though we are being given things at a certain time.
Yes. And I agree with you. I think there are guardrails. And I think that history will show it
when things are revealed someday that we don't know about now how close we got to pushing button.
We'll get stories that are hair raising if there aren't there already. And we'll go how one thing
different that day and we would have been in war. And you're going to see a number of those.
I believe there are guardrails and because of the snowball once we show a change is starting to
happen on the planet at a certain way. I think those things are moved around a little bit to help us.
Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, you were there during the Cuban Missile Crisis. You were around.
Yes. All that. That was terrifying. I wasn't alive yet, but I saw what was going on from
historical videos and films. And we got that's the closest we ever got that we know of. There's
many other stories that have come out after the Cold War and stuff that it's just air raising.
There have been there have been regarding a real life encounter that mimics the red red
October. Yeah. They may have even got there. And so there's a there's at least one of those as
well. Yeah. Yes, I was there in the crisis. And it was exactly as you said, everybody were
hair breath away. We were I mean, we were men hours away. I mean, it was insane. How close we got
that. That's right. But something something intervened and pulled us back from the brick,
but that's as close as publicly at least that we've ever seen. It's often we learn later behind
the scenes, things we don't expect. That later we find out why. And we go, we weren't told that
and you're right. No, we weren't. I'm sure it's a little bit of that happening now.
You're going to ask if we can do some channelings. All right. Yeah. If we could, you have
this big cry. Absolutely. And there's many here that are used to cry on. I love that you
every now and then say, Kairon. Kairon is the wounded healer. And I love crying on
iron energy. It's actually an asteroid. It's an asteroid, but it's also in asteroid
cartography. You have Kairon line, which is the wounded healer and healing, which is also beautiful.
How I remember it, Alex is many times when people are experiencing cry on energy live in person.
You are filled and flooded with this love wash. You can't help but cry. So we always call it
a cry on event because you cry on and on. So maybe you'll remember it that way. Now I have it.
Now I have it. I have it on a cry on event. And cry on is here of magnetic service
because the reason cry on here is for this shift in human consciousness. I've written maybe
four books on subject driven titles. And I get to ask cry on questions. And one of them was,
you know, crying. Have you been on other planets? Because we are in a galaxy where there's been
planets going through this shift. And some have made it some of not. And those who make it
have ascended planet consciousness. And cry says, of course, of course, I was on other planets.
So I'm just promising that that cry on is here with a specific mission in helping all of humanity
to be self empowered to move through this shift of consciousness. We are evolving. It's beautiful.
You're magnificent. And we're on that trajectory. We're on that path of graduate ascension status.
Right. Why do I check off my glasses when I channel? Well, cry on sometimes goes like that and
the flip of the glasses. Nox microphones kicks candles off at the seminar. So that's why we don't
put candles in front of cry on anymore. So it's crying. It's crying part Italian because he's
used this as hands a lot. Is that the way? So I love it. We do too. So yeah, cry on is always
so how would you like to do this, my friend? So we just go into channel and let you ask.
Yeah, that would be great. Yeah. And if you know, we could ask some questions. If he has anything
he wants to say at the beginning and at the end, I'll give him space to do that. If he has a
message for the audience, that's listening right now. Yeah, we could do that. Okay. Thank you,
my friend. Thank you, my friend. Greetings, dear ones. I am cry on magnetic service.
What a treat to talk to those who know themselves well enough to watch this particular program.
And what I mean by that is mostly old souls will be tuning in. The ones who are curious,
not only about themselves, but of the energy that the planet is going through right now that is so
different. It is so different. I am angelic, you might say. That is to say, when I came to my partner,
he said, who are you? And I said, cry on. And he said, well, who was crying? And I said, cry on.
It's a group. It's from the other side of the veil. It's like, you might say, a love grouping,
a compassionate grouping. I arrived in 1989. And the shift began in 1994. I am here to help you
through that shift. And I continue to help you through the shift. And that is the procession
of the equinox, the cosmology that the ancients have told you would happen. And it did.
Now you are coming out of that. There is so much love for you. I want you to know something
before anyone asks any question. God knows your name. If you want to use the term God, the creator
of this universe knows your name. And that's because within your soul, there is a piece of that
creator will be right back after a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show.
Almost every system on this planet that calls itself spiritual has a writing that will tell you
that God inside. I want you to know that because that is what starts to emerge in the consciousness
of humanity on this new track. Thank you for that, Brian. First question is, what is humanity most
afraid of to face about itself right now in this moment? The fear that the humanity has right now
or perhaps what it does not want to face is the inevitable of what might happen.
Perhaps if you don't awaken, in other words, the doom bias is there and it's so much there
that that is one of the biggest things that humanity will have to get through. I want to give you an
example. If you start counting the number of movies or episodic or anything you want to look at
that's even current or past in the last 25 years, hundreds and hundreds deal with the aftermath
after a nuclear attack. Now that is a bias and you continue that because it's a theme.
I think humanity is afraid to face that because they believe that it that it that it might happen.
It's a popular theme because it's been drummed into you from the old energy that I've talked about
before. The other thing that is difficult to face, believe it or not, is a change in humanity
that is so startling that almost all of the infrastructure that you used to that's consciousness
will change. You're on the edge of it with AI. Now some will say, well, what is it that AI is going
to do? And I will tell you a number of things. First of all, you'll get used to it. You'll get
through the fad of it. You'll get used to talking to it and then you'll realize it does not have
consciousness. It has data. Now that's still happening. It's probably going to take a number of
years before it gets old and it's no longer something that you're enamored with. And then it starts
to work. Let me tell you about AI. It's going to solve some of the biggest diseases of this plant.
AI will probably be responsible for curing cancer because it can look at all the research
has ever been done in an instant. It can pull together things that have never been pulled together.
When you apply it to base 12, it'll take you to the stars. This is the reason for AI now on the
planet, dear ones. Did you wonder if this was on purpose that you would have AI at this time?
And the answer is exactly. It's right where it belongs. Humanity doesn't want to face that either
because it thinks that AI will take over. And why is that? And that is because your movie said so.
Now back to the bias of the films actually trying to shape a future. It has nothing to do with any of
those films. I will tell you this. If I was going to write the next Terminator film,
I would have the Terminator turn into a higher consciousness and get rid of all the other apparatus
on the planet that would hold you back because that truly is the prophecy. The AI, the thinking machine
would take you to places you haven't been before and be your friend and not your enemy.
Beautifully said. Now, is there a timeline shift happening and what determines which path we experience
as individual and as a consciousness? I'm glad you asked that as a individual as a major
consciousness, it has to start with individuality waking up on the planet and has.
My partner mentioned the indigo effect right now of the young people actually being
interested in the esoteric things. Now, this is a major consciousness shift on the planet.
For ages, there has been a social norm that tells you what you're interested in at what age you
get interested in and what you do about it. Many books have been written. The psychology is well
known. That has all started to shift. So that is one of the biggest things that you're going to see.
So individually, you're starting to awaken. What happens next is the individuals,
they start to have what I'll call a coherence with one another. Now, if you studied coherence,
you'll realize that you don't have to be in the same room. You don't even have to be in the same
country. You can have coherence in the field, something that has been defined as the consciousness
of all. Some have actually defined it years ago as the great unconscious or the collective unconscious.
It's the field. When you start realizing that consciousness is energy, which is now proven,
you realize that that energy literally has a substance to it, you might say, that is on the planet.
This allows for things like remote viewing to happen because it's accurate. It is true.
Picking up other things that are happening through the field. So what I'm telling you is that
as the individuals start to have a higher consciousness and awaken, you click into a coherence with
many. That starts to affect other individuals and they start asking questions. Awakening is the
process of looking at life yourself, creation, what you've been told spiritually, and making up
your own mind. Asking the questions, is this real? Is it not real? Is there something more? Is
there not? And the coherence of that has created what is happening today in so many individuals that
then becomes a collective. And that collective of coherence of consciousness then becomes the
mass awakening eventually. One heart at a time, my friend, is the way it works, but I will tell you
right now that there are literally millions who are working this puzzle together and are starting to
awaken to a larger truth. The truth that does not have God as a punishing father, but God as a
creator who loves every single soul on this planet equal. And the job of every human being is to
then apply that to all lives and all countries. And it is normal. It will appear to be something
you want to do. You want to emulate the compassion of God. That emulation is going to start with the
children who are now young adults. Soon, you're going to see something. And I want you to look for this
because it's already in the works. It's already in the field. I see it very clearly.
You will see those in their 30s and 40s on both sides of not only the aisle, which means political,
but also you'll see it in countries that have been enemies for decades and decades. Holding hands,
coming together, looking you in the eye and saying, we've got to stop this.
Because the truth is this. There's too many of us to risk it. We've got to work on
fresh water for everyone, food for everyone, power for everyone, education for everyone. And that's
what we're here for. And it'll shock you because the alliances are wrong. They shouldn't be together
holding hands and looking at you this way. You've always seen them as a war. That's coming.
And when it does, I want you to remember this moment because it's already in the field. It's
starting to happen. It should happen. And then it should happen because the energy here is
promoting it. There is not the old energy pushback that there was even last year or the year before.
That's what's happening on the planet. What is the true purpose behind the chaos that
everyone seems to be seeing happening around the world? It's the culmination of many things,
but mostly because this is the year that I said, you're going to look at settling things that have
never been subtle. There is an energy that says, we have got to finish this. There's an energy that
says, enough. And the old energy then says the solution is always war. So you see that first
because you're not there yet. You don't have that collective consciousness that is going to be.
It will occur. But you'll notice when this war broke out, it was right away. So in his February
came and you'd settled into 2026, it was there. In a way, it never was there before. You might ask,
why now? What's the reasoning? If you ask the politicians, what happened then? They'll just say,
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And now back to the show. So this is what's going on. The chaos is an old energy reflection of
the way to settle it. But be aware that settling it is what you're asking about. That is what I
predicted as well. The things have simply not been settled or been in a way that is always
hanging, you might say. Never got tied up. It never got then put to bed. It never got a solution.
This is the year where these things start all over the planet. I'll say it again,
watch for new alliances with countries that are now going to settle other things that have been
not settled for years or things that haven't worked well. Alliances that you've always just counted
on that didn't really work well. Systems that you thought were forever. Not really. They really
didn't work well. And they'll start to change them. This is the beginning of that.
What is one belief that humans must let go of in order to evolve? You must let go of the fact
that you have been taught for centuries that God is a punishing God. That you have natural
born, dirty attributes. It's the greatest lie that has ever been given to humanity
about a wonderful compassionate God. That you were born unworthy when the truth is you are
born magnificent. You're born beautiful and you have every opportunity in life to teach your
children that very thing and every opportunity in life to go from there to find out what that
really means to be a compassionate soul. It'll change your life. That is, if I may tell you now,
the secret to life extension. Joy. That is also part of, I would say, the laughter, the inner child,
all of those things that we have taught about. Back to your question and the answer. You must understand
you were born magnificent. If someone feels lost right now, what is the first step they can step back
to clarity that can do? There are so many lost souls right now. I say that in a way that you would
understand your soul is never lost. But a lost soul to some of you are those who are in despair.
I will tell you something you don't expect. Energy is real.
It is not something that simply dissipates into the air. So you create your own energy.
For instance, have you ever tried to deal with a depressed person telling them about better things
or giving them something that you know they like? And they will say, get away from me.
I want to dig my whole little deeper. Does that make any sense? And the answer is it does not.
But energy is that way. So energy begats energy that is the same.
And that's both positive and negative. Almost everybody who is in despair right now lost souls
are experiencing something I will call cascading negativity. One thing leads to another,
which is also bad, which leads to another, which is also negative.
And so you think everything I try does not work. Nothing I have ever done is good enough.
Look at where I am now. Now I'm feeling bad. There's probably a disease. And I will tell you right now
that all of those things are probably true. Because that's what you created.
Do you dare, old soul, drop into your heart for a moment and ask the question,
am I creating my own whole? Is it possible that I'm creating all that is wrong in my life?
If I am, your spirit show me that I am loved. Now I'm going to reveal something to you now
that's an aspect and attribute of the creator. You all come in with guides.
There's literally angelic energy all around you.
And they just sit there and watch you do what you do. A human with free choice means that very thing.
The minute you start reaching out to spirit, not in a pleading way, not in a God dear help me.
But in a God, please show me who I am. What is next? And give me that, which is the peace and the
compassion to go through what I need to, to awaken and get out of this horror I'm in.
Energy begots energy. I want every one of you who is sad right now or despondent right now,
or even those of you who are perhaps not, to do a simple 30 second exercise. It's easy.
And I guarantee it'll change your perspective on life. When you get up in the morning,
I want you to swing your legs around and let them hit the floor, stay grounded.
And for 30 seconds, I want you to think of all the things you're grateful for.
It could be as simple as nature or an animal you're with or perhaps a partner who loves you.
Or someone across the ocean who loves you. I know who's listening here.
Or the fact that you're not going hungry. There are so many things to be grateful for. All of you have
this. 30 seconds. Thank you, spirit. Thank you, God. Thank you, creative source for this.
I am grateful for this. And you can start listening, listening them. 30 seconds.
And I'll tell you why this is important. It's hard to get into fear when you start with gratitude.
It's hard to go down that rabbit hole of depression when you start with gratitude.
And when you do that for 30 seconds, I want you to feel the angels getting just a little closer to
you. I want you to hear them if you wish to just figuratively saying, oh my gosh,
she's interested. Oh my god, he's interested. Let's look at what are they going to do next?
Are they really awakening? Are they really asking this? Yes. There's an entourage waiting
to take your hand when you do these things. Energy, we got synergy. Whatever you put out,
we'll come back. And what does a truly awakened human look like in today's world?
What kind of a human is that to you? An enlightened one, a conscious one. It looks like light,
just like light. When we look upon this planet,
we see love for every single human being. The ones who have a higher consciousness
that have discovered that every single day they're taking care of, every single day
they have answers. Every single day they can have healings and there's purpose and reason.
They're like beacons of light.
25 years ago, there weren't that many, not really. Today, if you could see what
I see, there's lighthouses all over this planet. More than ever before,
who have awakened to a greater truth. Not a doctrine, dear ones, not a religion.
It's you with a personal awakening to who you are. What if it was true? You really had God inside.
What kind of a difference would that make in a 3D world that you have to walk around in?
You walk in a toxic world and it doesn't touch you. That's what it's like.
You walk where somebody can yell at you and call your names and it doesn't affect you.
It doesn't press your buttons because you have mastery. Mastery doesn't react.
Mastery observes and you walk forward without feeling a thing. Let them feel what they wish.
What I will show them is love. That's what it looks like. It looks like light.
And there's a lot of it here, my friend. For those watching right now who are living in fear
about the future, what advice or words of wisdom do you have for them?
Almost everything that you're afraid of has been given to you to be afraid of.
Almost everything you fear has been on a plate handed to you.
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You're going to run out of oil.
You're not going to be able to do this and that and it's all the time.
Did you ever tune into a new channel who started with good news?
And the answer is no. Does that mean there isn't any?
No, it means that they have chosen to hand you bad news on a plate.
Once you see that, you'll see that the fear you have is something that has been designed.
You, my friend, are designed for joy, for wisdom, for light.
Once you start understanding the dynamics of why you feel the way you do,
you start relaxing a bit.
You start not watching those things that you know are designed to frighten you.
Then it gets even better. Now you're in control of your life.
The snowball is rolling down the hill of peace on earth.
You have a chance to slow it down or speed it up.
Depending on how you feel about yourself, who you are, what you might be able to do.
Just individually, for yourself.
Did you know that when you vibrate higher in consciousness,
that there are certain diseases that cannot attach themselves to you?
Now you think that's esoteric? It isn't.
You're going to find their science behind that because diseases are living things.
They also have a living vibration.
So do you. If your cells are vibrating higher than the disease, it can't touch you.
Did you ever think of that?
These are the things that will be discovered, even in medicine.
They'll scratch their heads wanting to know why certain groups of people never
catch a certain thing. Then they'll start looking at their belief system.
There is more here than meets the eye.
There is hope here. There's love here.
Grab onto it and you'll know what I mean.
And finally, Brian, is there any final words you would like to give to the audience?
That is what I want to tell the audience.
Born magnificent. Every one of you.
Don't buy into the lie that you came here by accident.
Or that perhaps you have a creator who doesn't like you who is looking at you,
who will send you to hell and torture you forever.
Does that sound like the love of God? Does that even reasonable?
Start using what I would call spiritual logic and apply it.
How you feel is there a creator?
Some of you will say, well, I don't have any evidence of it.
You haven't given a chance. Let the evidence be in you.
Try these things, perhaps. Go ahead, ask.
Dear Spirit, are you real? Show me.
Do you have the courage to do something like that and not then decide and advance that it's stupid to do that?
Most people who hear this, that's what they do.
Okay, I'll give it a shot.
Knowing, perhaps in their brain, it won't work.
And so what do they do? They do it. Knowing, it won't work.
And then when it doesn't, they say, see, it didn't work.
They set up their own result before they ever begin the problem.
Instead, if you would open your heart and say, I'm here, I'm really here.
If you love me, show me.
Oh, boy, Spirit cannot resist a human being's heart that is pure,
that asks that. And sometimes, dear ones, you have to go at the end of your string
and go right down to the depths of the dark night of the soul before you will ever, ever do that.
And then when you do, it all changes. You don't have to go there, not anymore.
You can do it right where you sit.
It's worth asking, isn't it? Find the God inside.
And so it is. Thank you.
Wow, that was powerful.
Lee, you jump in and out real quick.
That's a real quick.
I'll tell you the story because it was years and years ago now. I was in my shower.
We're trying to talk to me.
And I heard very clearly, are you ready to go to the next level?
I was such a human reaction. I thought to myself, dang, I thought it was at the highest
that spiritual ego. It was like, aren't I already there?
And so I said, I said, and I said, sure, I didn't really mean it, but I said, sure.
And I really wanted to know what that was. And Brian said, you're playing church with me.
You sit down, people sit down in front of you and you have something, you do something,
you say something, and then everybody goes, and it's no church anymore.
And there's no crying anymore.
And so I want you to do 24, 7, I want you to be me all the time.
Then when you bring me in, all you're doing is turning a page of a book.
And I'm there. We're closing the book. So it's just opening and closing something that's
already there. So you don't have to huff and puff or turn around or make funny noises
to be a channel. And that is not that there are those who do that that you shouldn't listen to.
I'm just saying, this is me. This is me. Sure. So this is what I experienced. And that's what you're
seeing. It took a long time, folks. I would call it the reluctant channel. I mean, there are those
who are dedicated to coming a channel and to mastering the channeling technique. That was not
late. Relax. That's what I tell anybody who wants to channel. You know, that's what Marilyn Harper
says to teaches channeling. Relax. Yes. You know, don't get like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it
because that doesn't. Yeah. Yeah. I've talked to a couple of channels in my day.
So I've seen every, every flavor, every style. And you pop in and out very, very quickly and very
just it's just a very flawless almost transition. And you know, Alex, it took
lay about four years to make that bridge with try and walk to remember from back then 37 years ago or
more. There was a lot of trans channel. So they're complete takeover of the body and like set,
like Seth, like Seth. Yeah. Yeah. Seth was a good example. And Lee said, don't do that to me. Yeah.
I want to know exactly what's happening. And cryon said, it's going to take you longer.
To have that meld. That's why Lee remembers everything cryon says, he's present. He's
100% present. Yeah. And that's the difference we see with such a wonderful channel. I love
the information itself. And there's a book Seth speaks. I forget what
but in an older energy, almost had to go there and do that in order to give that information.
Not now. Well, yeah, I think now, now channels are, I mean, obviously still not mainstream,
but it's a lot more mainstream than it was when you started for sure.
A lot more. Yes. Totally. There are so many channels. I mean, I, I'm living a beautiful time I
never thought I'd see where there's so many who can flip that switch and have so much powerful
information. And these older, the older energy you're talking about, the Edgar cases, the
sets, they had to almost do that in order for anyone to even kind of almost take them seriously
in every now. They almost had to be, they almost had to be showmen showmen. Yeah, a little
Barnum and Bailey kind of vibe to it back in the day. We're now the newer channels I've spoken,
the young, I've spoken to channels who are in their 20s. And they, they come in and out,
not as quick as you obviously, but they, but they're just different. Not sure there are some that
do a little bit more, more action and their voices change and all that, but that's just different
people doing different things. Like if I cook eggs and you cook eggs, it's going to be very different.
Different. And we had this Wednesday night show and we were doing it over five years with a lot of
six years. Six years. And every Wednesday night since for six years. And we have numbers of young
channels on that show. And I watched them very closely. And many times, it's just a matter of
being quiet for a moment or two. Then it comes in. So it's getting easier. And I'm watching it.
It's just amazing. It must be amazing for you. So where can people find out more about you,
cryon and all the amazing work you're doing? We still want to send people to cryonmasters.com.
And that is where all of our online work is. And then also you can see there some other things we do.
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If you want to go to see where our live things are, and that's a whole different part of crying,
that's cryon.com. So there's really two places and two things that you're looking at.
Our online work and our courses on cryingmasters.com. Our live things are on crying.com.
Sounds good. And do I'll leave it to both of you. Either of you have or both of you have
final messages for the audience. And this insane moment of transition.
I cannot talk what crying said. This is what I say. You're born magnificent. Don't you think
you're we're here by accident? What do you have to say? Mine is so grateful to have your energy
part of this conversation with Alex. And my request is kindness. Sometimes people might watch
the program. They may not always agree with everything we say or someone who's speaking too long,
the other person's not speaking enough. And the comments that you write can have a big impact.
So make them have kindness as the energy that's behind it.
Alex knows exactly what we're talking about. You mean there's negative comments on the internet?
What? There are people that hover that are looking for bad things to say to make you feel bad
because it empowers them somehow. And we know that. And we all welcome. We all welcome different
opinions. Of course. And but and through all of it, just is it being am I using kindness in my words?
I've read my final parting words. I think I'm going to be kind of kindness. Kindness matters.
Listen, I've heard comments that are like they disagree, but they're kind about it. And that's
okay. You don't have to agree. It might not float your boat. It might not you might not vibrate
with it. That's fine. But there's no need to be nasty about it. I disagree with a lot of things
happening in the world. But I don't go around attacking everybody. I don't hang out on other
people's channels and go, you know what? That's not the way grind would say it. That's not the way
Monica and Lee would have said it. I've had criticisms and kindness that actually read the whole
thing and agreed. I said, you know, I never thought of that. They're right. Agreed.
I have to to look at it in a serious way if it were if it were postured in a kind way. Absolutely.
Well, Monica, I do appreciate you saying that. That does mean a lot to me. And I think anybody who's
ever been on the internet. But even responding to someone's negative comments, I kind of laugh
because we have to even be kind when people are big on kind. And you know, it's that same thing
of it's easy to love people when they're lovable. That's easy. But our challenge of mastery is
we loving people when they're unlovable. That's why kindness is so simple. So that's what it is.
Yeah. Yeah. Guys, it has always been such a pleasure having you here. I look forward to our next
conversation. Hopefully we'll get you in the studio soon sometime before the big giant transition
happens. But I appreciate you guys. Thank you again so much for everything you're doing to
help awaken. Thank you. Delight and a pleasure always to be with you Alex.
Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this
conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this episode at nextlevelsoul.com for its
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