What is the Energetic Pulse of Humanity? with Jennifer Shaffer

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Welcome to the show, Jennifer Schaefer.

Hey, Jennifer.

I'm Dean.

Wow.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for coming down here to next level soul studios.

I appreciate it.

Thanks for having me.

Yes.

So we have a mutual friend, Richard Martini, who people loved his episode with me on the

show.

In that show, he mentioned you.

Yes.

I think in two sentences, mention that he worked with you, and what you did, literally

that was it.

And then, fast forward, like a month after the episode's release, I get an email from Richard

and you like, who is this Alex?

What is going on?

I'm booked up.

Like, what's happening?

I just literally said his name.

I know.

I'm like, is that what happened?

That's what happened.

Because Richard Martini said my name on your podcast, I got booked out until next

year.

And I'm like, and I know that I got booked out because I've had a bunch of other things

that have happened too.

But that was, I mean, there was a rush.

There was a rush within like three days.

And it was just, and I love the clients that watch this podcast.

People who come, that's why I hear from a lot of my guests is that the caliber of customer

or caliber of people that are coming to them, looking for connection or looking for guidance.

It's not the, we can't give a lottery ticket numbers, please, or, you know, which I've

done once.

Yes.

Well, they won a dollar.

It was Richard Martini.

Okay.

That was good.

That was a nice one.

But they're not looking for those kind of very materialistic ideas.

I really don't even have clients like that.

I'm sure in your career, you've had them.

Yes.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

But the ones now are just like, I just want to know just if I'm stuck or what I should

do, or if I'm on the right path, you know, what is my soul say?

You know, lately I've been getting, are my guides happy?

Like they're concerned if their guides are happy.

I'm like, wow, I've never even thought of that, you know, like are you guys happy with

me?

I think they're okay.

Thank you.

Okay.

I think about what you do, like everybody watching knows what you do.

Can you tell everybody a little bit about what you actually do?

So I have been fortunate enough to be able to tap into, you know, to take intuition into

a different space.

So they believe, I'll tell you where it started.

They believe that because I had seizures as a little kid at three and a half months old,

that was the cause of all of this.

Okay.

My more-man parents believe that and they've done studies on my brain.

And so they believe that was the gateway.

Whether that was the gateway or whether or not it was my bicycling accident where I broke,

you know, eight bones in my face because I was a professional triathlete.

Who knows?

I'm pretty sure I charted it so I'd have it.

You know, when I had seizures, they brought me, my mom would race me to the hospital and

every single time my seizures were gone, they're like, this woman's crazy.

Finally it lasted long enough where I was black and blue and it's called a larynx strider

seizure.

There was a British doctor on staff and he said, I've seen this before.

I was the eighth documentary case for this and it was, they fed me Beladonna.

So Beladonna, what Beladonna does is it, so when you have a seizure, your blood vessels

get restricted.

Beladonna relaxes them and they use it for, you know, a lot of eye doctors use it to

dilate the eyes, you know, and it has to be done a very special way.

And this doctor is like, I've seen this.

Let's get some Beladonna and everybody's like, my mom said, everybody's like, what are

you talking about to give a three and a half month old?

Beladonna was very risky, but the alternative was also risky.

And so I was basically being given psychedelics at three and a half months old.

Because it's a psychedelic.

Yeah.

And a poison, it's a poison in a psychedelic.

So eventually I grew out of my seizures, but they believe that was the gateway.

So it, that's very interesting.

So it's, so please let everybody, don't go out and buy this thinking you're going to

become psychic.

That's not the way this works.

It's not the way it works.

It does not.

But it sounds like it did open up those gateways.

It definitely did.

It opened up the channel, if you will, for like a better word.

How would you, to, it raised your frequency or your receiver up enough that you can

now receive?

Receiver.

Yeah.

Receiver.

I believe everybody has this, and I'm sure everybody said this, you know, everybody

says it when they're here.

All I do for clients is I put their awareness towards what they innately already have.

That's what I do.

So everyone's connected.

And if everybody would remember that, that they're always connected, but some days you

wake up, and I'm like, for me, I might not feel like I'm connected.

But I'm, but to know that you're always connected, all I do is I put their awareness towards

it.

But it's the, it's the drama that we get caught up in that disconnects us.

Correct.

So the more that we get caught up in this world's dramas, which sometimes those dramas are

very difficult to get out of, because if they're, you know, they're very heavy, they're

family.

They're kind of fun.

Well, depends on it, okay, there's some, there's some dramas, not so fun.

But we get caught up in, like, let's say, our family dynamic or relationships or work

or our body image or whatever it is.

It's a drama.

And the more you get in there, you kind of start disconnecting where your frequency is

not how you're, you're thinking of a lower, you're basically a vibration lower frequency,

right?

Absolutely.

And then if you start to meditate, if you start to watch spiritual content or watch

conscious content or watch things that uplift you, even laughing will bring you up.

They've done studies on laughing.

They, they, it helps, you know, they had a bunch of cancer patients that they've done

studies with that.

They mean laughter is one of the best medicines.

It's very interesting.

I was talking to Rich Martini about this.

No one from the other side ever has said, I wish I would have held back.

I wish I would have held back from that fun or that laughter or that kiss or that love,

you know, within reason, might you.

But we hold ourselves back.

So when you talk about, like, the drama or the, the inability to get happy, right?

Because we're, a lot of times people look for outside happiness, which never works.

Never.

Once you find it inside through, I call it wishmaking meditation, which I did not do until

last year, I thought they've done studies on my brain and I'm in that meditative, I'm

technically in that meditative state, my whole day at work.

And so I'm like, why do I need to do that?

You know, and first of all, every time I go quiet, dead people show up.

So there's that.

And so I'm afraid like, and alive people show up.

So I pay more attention to that.

That's a whole different story.

But yeah, back to your point, it's when you get caught up into that family drama, your

frequency doesn't jump.

Exactly.

And so when you go inward, you know, just by saying, in, you're already going up and there

is not a, this is not a hierarchy or an elevation thing.

It's about just knowing that once you know that you're okay, like, I'm okay, I'm safe.

Just the primal stuff, right, and my fed, like just that stuff alone, you know, which

a lot of our country does, you know, our country knows this world doesn't have that.

Just the basics.

I heard, I heard 50 cents say something the other day.

I love him.

Or Fiddy, as we like to call him on the street.

He is, he is a, you know, he says things are very profound sometimes.

Absolutely.

Because depression is a luxury.

And I said, he goes, where I come from, depression is a luxury.

You can't be depressed.

You got to get up and you got to go work because if not, I'm going to get kicked out on

the street.

So you might be depressed at work.

You might be upset and not feeling well, but you go and you do it because there's no

other choice.

And I never, he goes, depression is a luxury.

I was like, that's love that.

You know what I'm saying?

From where, from his point of view, where he came from, from those kind of, for the streets

and, and his, his economic background, that he, I get, I completely get it.

My, my parents, who were, you know, lower middle class, they, that generation, depression.

I was one of seven children.

I am one of seven children, I should say.

There was no time for that.

There was no time.

I'm sorry.

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I know, I mean, it's, I mean, I get it though.

I mean, I'm not making my impression or all that stuff, but his point of view, but his

point of view was really interesting, is like, yeah, it's all about mindset in a lot of

ways.

And again, I'm not making light of depression by any stretch.

We've all, I know, we have.

No, we have.

I get it.

Well, back to depression, when I was a kid, I was severely depressed.

And I had no idea what was going on.

I was a straight-a student, but I'd stay home, like, once a week.

And my mom was just like, what's going on?

Well, I thought about suicide all throughout my childhood, but I had no reason to.

I was captive of a song leading squad.

I had straight A's.

I had this and that, which made it worse.

But I thought about suicide, and I now know why.

It's because I think when you grow, when you're a little kid, you get these little insights

about, okay, so I want to be a dancer.

You get a dance coach.

I want to play soccer.

You go become part of a team.

I see dead people, or I feel the other side, or I feel that love that's not there, right?

And you think about suicide.

There's no death school to go to when eventually you'll be working with it.

So then let me ask you that.

Let's go back a little bit, because I always love asking this question to you.

Unpack it.

It's like, yeah, let's unpack that for a second.

Let's dig deeper on that rabbit hole.

For psychic mediums, I always ask the question is like, okay, when, I mean, you obviously

early on had this.

When the first dead person showed up, what did you do?

Did you freak out?

Because as an adult, when that happens to you, it's freaky.

But as a child, I've heard from, I've heard from others, as a child, they just make it

normalized.

They're like, oh, it's just Uncle Bob.

He's always there.

How was it for you?

I just saw people floating around.

I was raised Mormon, very religious fan.

So that's...

I know many Mormons.

I have many Mormons friends.

So what, you know what, though, being raised Mormon made it to where I, even if I knew

how to kill myself, I wouldn't do it because you're taught that if you do, you can't get

to the highest kingdom, right?

Of course.

Of course.

That's the worst thing.

Did you say anything?

I didn't say it.

No, so what I would tell my mom, I'm like, can I get glasses, because I just saw things

floating around.

It was hazy.

It was hazy.

You know, if you look at a hot street and you see that gassy look that goes up, my whole

world looks like that constantly.

And at nighttime, even like last night, I have to have one of those universal lights that

goes up on the wall so that way I can see the lights and not everything in between.

Because otherwise it makes my heart race and I sometimes, even though nothing can hurt

me, you know, it's just, it's kind of one of those things.

So I would go, my mom, I don't know, forget this.

It was $40 to get my ice check back then.

And I was one, the only child that had 2020 vision that kept wanting glasses.

All the rest of the kids had glasses in contacts.

I was the only one and I was the one kid that wanted them.

And I'm like, you have 2020 vision, I'm like, I just don't understand this stuff is just

not moving.

And there's obviously no one there to guide you.

There's no one.

There was no one there.

No books.

No podcasts.

Nothing.

No death school.

No death school.

Nothing.

That's the whole other thing.

And I've worked with a lot of psychiatrists.

I actually share an office with a psychiatrist who I love, Denise.

I've worked with a lot of other, you know, people in the arena of mental health and help

guiding them when a kid thinks about suicide.

They actually might be working with the other side.

They don't want you over there.

That would defeat the purpose, but they want you to remember that you will be working

within.

And I could be a doctor.

That could be a policeman.

That could be a fireman.

You could be in law enforcement.

Eventually, you're going to be working with the other side in some capacity.

It's not for you to commit suicide.

And there's like, I helped this girl not commit suicide once.

And she now works, because I said, I'm like, you're thinking about suicide, but you don't

even know why, but you tag it to something that's going wrong in your life versus what

it's about.

And like, you're going to be working forensics.

Well, she works forensics now, but that she had no idea at the age of 12 or 13 that

that's what she would be doing.

So as you're seeing, I call Uncle Bob, Uncle Bob floating around.

And did you just see them?

Did you start speaking to them?

Well, I would have this internal dialogue, which I now know what it is, but back then

I didn't know.

And I just would sit there and kind of, you know, I didn't understand it, but it would

come.

I always felt very calm.

I never felt scared ever.

I just felt very calm.

It was very loving.

But I, again, didn't know.

I just thought everybody else saw everything.

So when you heard, when you start hearing, because you were so young, when this happened,

when kids, they just, whatever comes at them, they just come like, oh, I guess it's the

way it is because they have no reference point.

Right.

So when the voices start coming to your head and you start seeing Uncle Bob floating

around.

Well, there was worse.

So my earliest childhood memory was when we were, and I'll explain why, because it's

not just about dead people, it's about seeing the future as well and feeling it, but not

that part is what's really, you know, what's really scary.

So one of my earliest memories was not wanting to go across the street.

And this wonderful Mormon parents, family, we, you know, we were raised in a big Mormon

family.

I was raised in a big Mormon family.

Everybody would go play, but I would never go to their house.

And like, there's just something really wrong.

I just had this, and I didn't understand it.

My dad's like, I don't understand it, you know, I'm like, I just felt bad.

So 25 years later, somebody in that household killed five people at God.

25 years after.

25 years later.

The person that I did not want to play with, did not want to go over to that house, ended

up killing five people in Texas.

And this was down in California.

And I knew the people that he killed.

I knew the people that, you know, I mean, it was, but you felt that 25 years earlier.

Yes.

I went over and played with him.

He would have been fine, because he was a kid.

Right.

Right.

Really?

So that was my earliest memory of just going, no, I can't be over there, you know, at any

cost.

It just was so scary to me.

And it was a feeling.

It was just a feeling.

It's not anyone telling you, hey, don't go over there.

No.

No.

So as you're getting older, and this is fascinating, because I haven't had a, I'm assuming

ex Mormon?

I guess.

Yes.

I appreciate the way I was raised, but I like wine.

I like that.

Exactly.

That's it.

Exactly.

There's a few things.

Exactly.

That they frown upon.

That they might not like.

Exactly.

So as a former.

Yes.

As a former Mormon, this is what I find fascinating is I haven't had a former Mormon

psychic before.

I've had recovering Catholic.

I was one of the first women wives.

Yes.

Exactly.

So old wives.

I'm assuming this is getting stronger and stronger as you're getting older.

Oh, yeah.

As you get your tears.

Meditation.

Yeah.

And then you start meditating and start amping up even more.

Right.

I'm assuming the spirit guides come in at a certain point and you start.

And do you search out books or some sort of guidance about me?

So I, my first book was a, it was by Dr. Brian Wise.

Many lives, many masters, which I actually put a paper bag over.

I covered it up because I thought if my husband sees me with this book, he's either going

to think it's a sex book, many lives, many masters, or it's a spiritual book.

And I didn't know which one was worse for him to see at the time.

And he was Mormon as well?

No.

No.

No.

No.

But I've been married to my husband for 23 years.

So this was like 20 years ago.

Oh, okay.

Fair enough.

But it was one of those things.

And so that kind of, I'm like, it resonated with me.

It was the most fast and I've met Dr. Brian Wise and I love him.

And it was the most fascinating book to me and I'm like, that's what put me on my path.

And to really go and deeper because I'm like, I need to understand this.

I had no intentions of doing this for work.

And then I got kind of brought into it because I work with law, I started working with law

enforcement and I started working on cases.

This was in my, this was in my 40s, early 40s.

Okay.

So there's a big jump between teens and 40s.

Oh, yeah.

I was a stockbroker.

I managed.

Okay.

So you were a genius.

Yeah.

And I imagine you're using some of the psychic abilities for everything about my clients.

But even my boyfriend's, my friends would call me psychic.

I didn't even know how to spell the word.

It just, I had such a rough connotation towards it, which was, well, at that time period,

too, it was not the, and I say intuitive.

Like, I just call myself an intuitive because I'm also a medical intuitive and investigate

all the things that doesn't matter.

Right.

I help people.

And that's really what I want to do.

The word psychic has a charge to it,

just like the word God has a charge to it.

If I don't want a conversation, I'll say that word.

If you say intuitive, that's a difference.

Yeah, it even feels different.

Oh no, the word intuitive is so much nicer.

It doesn't come with baggage.

Psychics, you know, you think about,

oh, it's the old Gypsy lady at the carnival, you know,

in the back room.

I'm like, my office has an ocean view.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm not in a back room.

But that was what it was because

coming up over the last, even the last couple thousand years.

Here, give me, let me take away your karma.

Give me $10,000.

I mean, the stuff that you hear, it's just awful.

Yeah, yeah, it's heartbreaking.

And there's so many, there's so many scammers out there.

There's so many people.

I can't change that.

Yeah, and that's, but that's in the industry, by the way.

You were, you were in finance.

Let's, let's talk about that.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Let's not talk about, actually, I think the finance guys

have done a lot worse than Psychics have ever done.

I think you're right.

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That's a lot more damage than the occasional.

I'll take your karma.

Have the dance naked and I'll play.

Well, what is it?

I have to dance naked in the, I have to dance naked in the,

in the cemetery to relieve this of you.

I'll need five grand.

I've heard these stories.

You don't want to dance naked, but I just give me the money.

I'll do it. Don't worry about it.

These kind of things.

So at what point did you come out of the intuitive closet to not only

your surrounding colleagues, but the Mormon family and the

Mormon friends and that was so painful.

Before you go into that, one thing I've noticed about Mormons in

general and my Mormon friends, I have many Mormon friends.

They're very unjudgmental.

They are, they're very unjudgmental.

They're very sweet.

You could be talking about something that completely goes against what

they believe and they'd be like, OK, as opposed to the Catholic or

the Christians or, you know, or, you know, or Muslims or many

other that they, they literally will come to grips.

But I've never seen that from the Muslim community.

So I just want to say that the Mormon community.

Yeah, well, my dad was a Mormon bishop when he passed away.

And he was, you know, one of my biggest, my, he ended up being one of

my biggest fans, but he was not happy when he started hearing about

this.

And so when I came out of my closet, there was actually somebody

down the street passed away, somebody that didn't, never knew.

The night that he passed away, he showed me and told me everything

that happened.

How is going to be talking to his wife later on?

How I, the autopsy report was going to come back saying that he had, you

know, that he had a something that was developed in childhood that

that's what he died from, not based upon the circumstances.

All every single thing that he showed me ended up coming out.

And I was just terrified.

Like, what do I do with this?

And one of my girlfriends down the street, she goes, please talk to

her, talk to the wife.

And I did talk to the wife and every single thing ended up being true.

And then the whole, my whole community and Manhattan beach, you know,

started talking about it.

And so that kind of led to my first case that kind of led to, how did you

get a case?

Another friend, Julie Greenwald, another friend, said she goes, I have, you

know, I have somebody that their daughter and Colorado, there's some

weird stuff that happened around surrounding her passing.

And they said it was natural causes.

And it just doesn't make sense.

Would you be willing to talk to the parents?

That's it.

And I said, sure.

And I didn't know it, you know, I was so, I knew way more back then than I do

now.

I mean, more you know, the less you know, but the more you understand that

statement, I know nothing compared to what I thought I knew then.

But I still, when I met them, I'll never forget looking down going,

their daughter was murdered.

I don't know if they know this or not.

And if I tell them their whole lives are going to change,

do I do, you know, just because you know something doesn't mean you say it.

But I was told to say it.

And it took them on a whole different trajectory, but all the evidence I gave

them about her being stalked, about her being killed, all matched up with what

they had.

But yet there's a, there's a lot of politics in Colorado.

And the, the Sheriff's Department has an old rule.

That's a hundred year old rule that says the Colorado Bureau of

Investigations, no one can come in and take over.

And because of that, they could say natural causes.

And they eventually made it into a suicide, which just shuts it down.

Then no one can open up the case.

And they have more suicides in Colorado than they do murders because they don't

investigate.

Oh my God, it's brutal.

It's brutal.

They don't have the manpower they don't have.

And I have, I'm telling you, hundreds and hundreds of cases, but these

parents should never have had to go through what they went through.

You mentioned something that's really interesting about knowing information

and saying information.

Right.

I've, I've heard from since, I mean, I've had my, my spiritual guide, Connie,

who's been on the show forever.

And she's a site.

She's a channeler.

A site.

She's, she's wonderful.

She's the one that got, she's the one that got me on this thing in the first place.

Yeah, but I've no, I, she was the one that told me years ago when I was in my

20s. She's like, just because I know something doesn't mean that I'm allowed to

tell you.

Correct.

And she's like, I know a lot about you that I can't tell you either yet or at

all.

Right.

Because if I do, it will change the trajectory of your life.

That's it.

And that is the, the kind of code of a intuitive slash like medium,

where just because you have the information, doesn't mean is it moral?

Is it right?

Like if I go, so, so Jennifer, can you tell me about when I'm going to die?

Like, can you, can you, I'm sure that's been asked a lot of time.

And I would never want that information ever.

I was told at the age of 21 when I was going to die.

That's horrible.

I'm sorry.

I know.

I'm sorry.

But I thought I'm like, it's so far away.

I'm going to be fine.

Well, it's this year, but that's a whole different story.

And thanks.

Good change.

Thank you.

Well, now I know it is actually is a death based upon my chart.

I'm starting to hold different.

It's a different kind of death.

I get it.

Yes, we've, I've had multiple deaths in this, multiple, I am a, I am a spiritual

pot, a spiritual podcast host at this point in the game.

There's been a death from where I came from.

There's no question about it.

So I got here.

Absolutely.

But that's, that's a really key point for people listening when they're

trying to find guidance through a intuitive or psychic medium that if you have

someone telling you, like, I remember I went to, I don't even know if she was

real or not, but this is years, the year, I mean, this is years in my 20s.

And she was like, I see this, what do you want to, I'll tell you, whatever you want.

And like, it was just kind of like, whatever you want me to tell you, I'll tell you,

it was, there was no, there was no, there was no, there was no guarding it.

There was nothing.

It was just kind of like a kind of thing.

It's just, and then she was in a back, back of the crystal shop.

So I, you know, to be, to be fair, they use fear to, and that's not,

that's no one from the other side works upon there.

I have had where I'm like, I get information that the only time I ever say it is

if they're in danger.

Right.

That's the only time I've ever, you know, and I've had to say, like, just if this

happens, you know, I get on the plane.

I'm like, don't get on the plane.

I can't even, yeah, don't get on the plane.

That's, but that's, but that's something really important for people looking

for guidance because there are a lot of hucksters out there.

There are a lot of people who are not morally guided because just,

and I want people to understand just because you've got this gift,

doesn't mean you're a good person.

No, no, not at all.

I would like to think I am, but I, I, I easily know how good witchcraft can

be used as bad, you know, as something, it's a consciousness.

Correct. So, and I want people to be very clear on that because people

automatically think, oh, they've been gifted with the, with the gift to see my

dead grandmother, or I can tell you the future, that doesn't make them good

people.

No. And by the way, with quantum physics and with different, different realities

out there, we can get something in the future that might not be in this

reality as well.

Now, let's unpack that.

So, you know, so we've talked about on the show.

With quantum physicists, about the multiple parallel realities that we have,

the multiverse, and that every time we make a decision, a major decision,

not catch up or no catch up, but major decision.

It can shift off into essentially endless realities that we are living

in currently.

So, in other words, there's a reality where you are the host and I am the psychic.

So, they're, they're, I'm sure something because we're exploring.

Well, Jimmy Hendrix is always the host.

Always in the afterlife when anybody crosses over there.

It's the weirdest thing.

He's like, Jimmy Hendrix is the guy that greets people.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen that.

I'm like, no, is it Jimmy Hendrix?

It's Jimmy Hendrix.

It's just, so we talk about that, but that's just funny that you're the one

I get a lot of is Robin, Robin Williams.

I love him.

I know, I love, I love Robin too.

I don't want to go down the rabbit hole, Robin Williams, but, but he, he pops

up a lot too as well for people and for myself as well.

All the time.

He's just, I absolutely, I dored him when he died.

I was in mourning for about two weeks and I couldn't understand why.

I, he took with him how a lot of people felt in their lives.

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How many times, I mean, I know I didn't want to stay here early on.

You know, and I'm like, what did you do?

I was, and then he would get angry.

We go through that angry for like, how did you leave?

Why did you leave?

I, you know, but he's, it goes back to like, he's giving me some of the most,

the greatest advice in the world.

Like love, what love is?

Like love, love, you know, it's just, it's, it's, it's absolutely fascinating.

But I do wanted to clear that up for people because just because you're a

channel or your psychic or your psychic medium does not mean that you are morally

correct, that means that you are on the right path, that you have your best

interest in mind.

It's very, just be very cautious.

And so I've learned it with crime work because I would teach other people,

because I would think, you know, more eyes on the scene and the unseen is better

because than just me, because there's so much, you know, when I'm on the phone

with a bunch of agents, that's a lot, you know, and to take that all on your

own is a lot.

But when I've taught them some like, so when if you're talking to a mother and

the daughter is missing, you know, you might get certain images.

And if you have any, any compromising thoughts, like if you, if something, you

know, if something bad happened to you when you were little and you bring that

into a case, that's going to affect you because you're compromised.

I think I'm a, I'm very lucky because I knock on wood other than being raised

more. And I don't think any, I've had anything really severely bad happen to

me. And so I don't bring that into cases.

That being said, if a girl, you know, gets affected by somebody or somebody

does somebody this girl and the mom, you're looking at the mom, you don't tell

the mom, oh, by the way, your daughter was XYZ.

You don't have proof of that.

She'd like always ask, you know, when you're, when you're an intuitive,

you always, I always have to ask them like, do I give this information?

And a lot of times I get told, no, she'll bring it up or the person will bring

it up later on and then you'll be able to confirm it.

So you're asking the other side always, so who's telling you what's the voice?

I think it's, it, I think it's usually the, it depends.

Sometimes it's the person that's been killed.

Sometimes it's the person that, um, sometimes it's my guides.

Sometimes it's my higher self, like to see, you know, I had to let go of

unless I really felt them, I had to let go of where it came from.

I had to trust that because that could get in your way as well.

So we, we, we, we went off topic for a second.

What happened when you opened up to your Mormon family and your friends and your

colleagues? Hey, guys, I'm, I'm, my friends are like, um, can you stop doing

drugs?

You're California, New York, where are you?

California, you're in California, you're in the South Bay.

So it wasn't at the time I actually was sober.

So it wasn't even like I wasn't drinking, there were no drugs.

There was nothing involved.

And I'm like, listen, I'm not here to say I'm a medium.

I'm doing this that I just need to explore it because if I don't, it's going

to, something else is going to happen.

You know, I don't want any more here.

Let's smash her face here.

Let's do this.

Let's do that.

And I just need to understand it.

And I was very lucky that I had some great teachers take me underneath

their wing and like, we're going to teach you everything because it's, it's

learning languages, you know, just because I see it doesn't, that, that, that

doesn't mean what comes through here has any correlation to what I'm seeing.

And past present future shows up in the same place.

That's another thing that, into it, it was get a little bit off-sighted with,

but you have to figure out time.

That, you know, just because you might say, oh my gosh, I feel this, this, this,

that might have already happened.

You have to do your checking.

You know what, that's so funny because I get that all the time.

I have a unique perspective.

I talk to so many of you weird.

Well, you walked out, can we just talk about you called me today?

Like, um, I just want to make sure where you are.

You literally walked out when I was coming up like, and I turned to you.

It goes, cause you know, I'm sorry.

I'm like, how did you, oh, yeah, there's so many, I speak to so many people

like you and channelers and these kind of things.

So, um, when I, I've had readings done, um, and I've heard people get

readings is that sometimes they, they're, you're trying to interpret the images

that are coming in.

Sometimes his voice, but a lot of times it's just images that are popping into your

mind. So you're trying to go, okay, um, there's this guy, um, he did, this

or that, I see a B is it, his name, is his name, Bob is a Bob, um, is, I, I think

Bob's dead.

I'm not sure is, is Bob dead?

And you're like, yeah, that's my Uncle William.

I'm like, okay, great, Bob's dead.

Okay, great, because you don't know if he's, if he's alive or not, you're trying

to figure it out.

And so I have come to a conclusion for myself.

Every medium works differently.

Tyler Henry, I love him.

He does the scribbling.

He does the scribbling.

So I scribble a little bit too.

That's just, but I need a name.

So a lot of people like, well, if you needed a name, then maybe you're not,

I'm like, no, this is how I work on all my cases.

I ask for a name and I ask, do you know, like, when I work with law enforcement,

do you know if they're dead or not?

I'm not going to spend my time trying to, that's a waste of time.

I need to know so that way I can figure out what we're looking for versus just,

I'm over the fact of, I know they're not trying to test me anymore either.

It's not, not like that.

Um, and so yeah, we need to like, you know, if you're, if you're a meeting,

we're like, are they dead or are they alive?

You can fill into it as well.

So when someone dies a certain way, I get the chills a certain way.

When they die from a, when I get called into a case or into a missing person case,

I can fill them if they're dead, but I always, you know, that's,

gets very tricky too, because you have to make sure you're like, wait a second.

It comes to you so differently, but I have learned too that somebody could be alive

and have a psychotic break and it feels the same way as somebody dead.

Interesting.

Yeah, because they just, they've disconnected.

Right.

Somebody has Alzheimer's, somebody that's in a coma, they feel dead to me.

Can you, can you connect to people in that are the have Alzheimer's?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

It's so fun.

They're having the time of their lives.

So can you explain?

Because there's so many people, you know, I have family members.

Uh, there's so many people who are struggling with that.

And this seems to be rampant, rampant now in a way that I haven't really seen in,

in history before.

Like there's so much more of that happening.

I'm sure environmental, I'm sure, uh, food, all that kind of stuff that's going towards it.

But can you explain to people what's happening to these souls and why they would choose to do this?

I never feel sorry for anybody that has Alzheimer's or dementia.

I feel sorry for their caregivers.

Yeah.

They are having the time of their life.

Anytime I've, like any time I'm talking to somebody and I'll sit there and I'll start laughing.

They're bawling in front of me because they're telling me, you know, you know,

I'm like, is this person have Alzheimer's or are they on the other side?

I'm like, do they have Alzheimer's?

And I'll start laughing because I'm like, um, she's with her first boyfriend.

And here the person that has Alzheimer's is married, you know, and blah, blah,

and it usually they're like, what?

I'm like, she's having fun with somebody that was in the military that passed away.

And she's saying it's her first boyfriend.

They know what I'm talking about.

She's really having an experience on the other side with the person that she was with before her husband.

So they're just having, she's back in that time period.

They get to go travel on any time period.

They can, they can be with their husband in a different time period.

So it's very much here.

What dreams may come?

Absolutely.

You can create whatever reality you want on the other side.

We have so much to learn from them.

Like I was talking to some, not because I'm on the LA chap, I was on the LA chapter last year for Alzheimer's.

The Alzheimer's committee.

I'm like, have you guys ever studied them in a way?

Their bodies, their bodies stay living forever, right?

How many times have you heard when someone has dementia, they just,

they live for a very long time.

It's because they're not tied to their body.

They're not constantly feeding it that information of your fat.

You have cancer, you have this, you have that, you have this, you know,

they're not tied to their bodies.

So their bodies last forever is that what I, okay.

So now we're going to go down another another route.

I love this because that makes sense to me because throughout history,

and now we're going to go into ancient mysteries a bit throughout histories.

There has been explanations of or stories of people living 800 years.

Moses, these kind of things are in the, they live in, I mean,

our sir here, Baba G is supposedly 2500 years or older and has still walking the earth.

There's many of them that last for long, long, long time.

So is it because that they're, they are disconnecting from,

first of all, they're not beating themselves up.

So that's base one.

Yes.

Like let's just start from there from scratch.

You know, like Moses is not going, am I?

Oh God.

I just, oh, I just feel a little pudgey today.

Like, you don't hear Moses doing that.

I'm most swollen from the pain.

I feel I had so much pizza.

I'm holding a sodium, but

so you don't hear that from these.

And you never hear that from, like, you hear stories of like a yoga non that use him a lot.

He was a recent ascended master who just, who left us in 50s.

So beautiful.

But you don't hear stories of them that you never hear a yoga non that going,

oh God, too much curry last night.

Like, you know, they're, they're in a different,

different level.

They're creating their realities from elsewhere.

That's what we're supposed to do.

We could learn so much from them.

We're creating our realities from elsewhere.

Hence the other side of meditation, meditation, these kind of things going up.

Your body can arguably sustain itself differently,

because it's not being bombarded with that kind of negative energy that we're,

or just living strictly from this place,

because there's a time limit in this place.

Correct.

That's the rules.

Yes.

But when you, but when you transcend the code, I'll use the code as the

matrix, when you understand the code and you start to transcend it,

you can let that's, that's their stories of yogis living for hundreds of years.

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They leave one, they leave whenever they want.

Yeah, you're going on this like tonight.

I'm leaving.

He told us, he told us followers tonight.

I want to leave.

No, no, Paramahansai, you're not going to go, no, no, I'm going to,

I'm going to leave.

And when I leave the words of India will be in my lips.

And the last sentence he said was something about India.

And then he just dropped, had a hard, according, had a hard attack.

These kind of things.

So it's really fascinating.

I wanted to kind of go down that road and what we were going with that.

But anyway, back to Alzheimer's, I'm sorry.

So that's why they, because you're right.

I had, oh my God, I, I've, uh, grandmother, uh, I had an aunt, uh, that they just,

they just wouldn't die.

And there was nothing wrong with them.

Like they were just sitting there and they would not, they would eat their bodies would

eat.

They would do everything normally.

Doesn't matter.

But they just eight years, nine years.

And we're just like my, what kind of existence?

Right, right.

So I'm so in human.

It's so inhumane.

And I want to, and I want to bring this up because there's so many people who are

feeling so guilty about their loved ones.

That's the other thing.

Oh, so many great things.

So the other thing that Alzheimer's, the people have Alzheimer's, they, they know how

love, they actually feel that the person.

So the, you know, how many times are you here?

Like I couldn't make it over there.

I couldn't see that, you know, my grandma, I wish I would have there more.

But I couldn't, you know, it was too far away.

I'm like, she thinks you're there right now.

They think that you're right there.

They don't have a proximity.

There's no anger.

They're not better.

They're not better.

They're bitter when they wake, when they wake up, meaning when they realize they're here,

like, why, why am I here?

Like they get so confused back to the 50s.

They're my boyfriend.

Like it back to him.

I don't even like him.

What's going on here?

And why are you so old?

You know, imagine.

And so like I, and the other thing that I was shown recently, too, was

that when people pass over, yes, they have to give me the information of how they die.

Because that's how I had to, you know, that's the, I, I'm an evidential medium.

That's what I want to give my clients to make sure they know their hair.

And, and when they do, they don't, they don't take the last day.

Because how many people feel bad?

Like, I was supposed to be there and I couldn't make my flight and whatever.

They don't take the last day.

They show me what happens.

So I can give you that information.

They get to take all the love that was ever given to them by that person.

All at once when they take their breath on the other side.

Interesting.

At once.

Could you imagine you hear about that love, right?

They all come flooding in, flooding in like they don't care.

They don't sit there going, I can't believe she didn't make it to save me.

Goodbye, you know, when I'm on my deathbed, they don't,

they don't ever, I've never heard that from anybody.

And that, and that really does sync up because all the near death

experiences I've talked about and talked to, they, they never say that there

was that, that, that right there.

There's no, they don't take that with them on the other side.

They never, they, if they're going to the other side, they don't, I mean,

when I say that, and we could talk about the spirits as they hear, we could talk

about that later.

But if they are, if they are on the other side going towards the light and all

that at that level, they don't bring anything like that negativity or any of that

stuff with them.

They do it at the, at the certain, at the beginning, they do bring into my

understanding, please correct me if I'm wrong.

They bring some of their programming with them until they are kind of cleaned

out of that meaning that you need to see Jesus or you need to see this or

see that.

I had actually, I felt I had like a near death experience.

I believe during a meditation where I completely left my body to the point

of that bliss that you feel.

And I got to this place when I left my body that nothing was outside of me.

Like, but it was this bliss that had, you know, everything like my husband

wasn't outside of my kids.

I didn't need to know where they were.

Like it wasn't that it was literally a game where I'm like, oh my gosh.

This is my world.

This is what I've created.

This is like, and I'm like, it's, I can't believe it's just like this.

Like they're really the oneness that I felt.

I will, I will hold on to forever because it was every single thing just

all of a sudden went away.

So everything that's in this room just went away, but yet was there.

And it's like, and it wasn't, I didn't see myself.

It, you know, I felt another presence there.

And then I got drawn back to my body, but just those moments.

And I thought I was gone for like two minutes.

I was gone for two hours.

I had no idea.

And it was the most surreal thing that I've ever felt ever.

And I just, and I sit there and I'm like every time, every interaction,

like how lucky am I to have this interaction?

I created this, you know, but it's not I.

It's re-created this.

It's this whole, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say I.

There is no I.

There is absolutely zero.

I'm sure that is all of us collaborating, which you know, it goes back to that.

Collaboration of what we're doing to create, but if we can take that matrix,

so going back to that box, like if we can and taking the Alzheimer's box and

taking even my crime boxes that I work out of, you know, how I remote view,

if we can kind of compile them all together and really look into like, okay,

so they're out there.

People have Alzheimer's.

They get to go and have all the fun they want, right?

And they get to have all those feelings that they want.

How do we create that from here, but we have the same.

There's something I've heard from, I forgot who it was.

That told me this, they all blur together after I talked to so many people on the show.

But they were saying about Alzheimer's patients that if they had a particularly

tough tie life, a lot of times they just want to forget.

They don't want to be here anymore, but they don't want to leave.

So they, so, you know, they're family members I have right now,

who particularly had a pretty rough life.

People weren't really nice to them, though they gave a lot and so on.

And they, they just want to kind of forget.

So they literally manifest themselves into this disease,

to kind of disconnect from the pain of all of that, where they're in this

happy place.

Does that make sense to you?

Yeah. So when you're mentioning this, you have somebody right now,

can I tell you what comes up?

Please.

So one of them, it feels like it had to do with, um,

they're not ready to say goodbye to someone.

Um, they don't want to leave this other person.

They also church came in in a weird way.

So I, them not either going or feeling bad that they didn't go,

but not being able to do anything about it now that I think it's quite a part,

because whoever they're with is a church goer or fills it or something like that.

They're happy, but there's also something that's just not letting them go.

It feels like, and that's what they're thinking.

It doesn't mean that it's actually happening, but they feel like they're still,

if they leave, then everything will fall apart.

That's kind of where they're, that's where their mind is.

That's where their mind is when they're here, whether they believe,

whether that's true or not, it's another story.

That's just their perception.

That's just their first.

So because of that perception, they're holding on.

Yeah, and they don't have that much time now.

I know.

Okay.

Yeah, I'm aware.

I'm aware.

Again, I asked if I could even say that.

No, no, I understand.

Yeah.

No, no, no, no, and it's, I get it.

I want to, I want to bring on a lighter note for a second.

Yeah.

There was a story that Richard told, and I'd love to you to retell it.

The story of that, I don't want to give away the punch line.

He filmed you in that.

There was a movie that he shot you where there was a very famous athlete.

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

That one.

Oh my gosh.

He just showed up again this morning on my way here.

So tell, please tell people what the story, because when I heard it,

and there's a film of it, by the way, so you could actually see it happening is hilarious.

Okay.

Well, there's a couple, there's a couple of, um, I'm not sure about that one.

I'm trying to think about you know, which one I'm talking about.

Well, I can say this, so he's very famous.

We've had a conversation about him.

Kobe Bryant showed up.

Okay.

So it's about Kobe.

Yeah.

Okay.

By now you put the punch line.

I'm so sorry, but this is the thing though.

So this morning, I'm like, I don't, you know, I, I think I already told you.

I'm like, as I was thinking about, I'm like, oh, I wonder what we're going to talk about.

Probably about the cases or whatever.

And then Steve Jobs showed up.

And then I, I happen, you know, there's a great story behind that, but they're, but with Kobe,

when he showed up, he just was looking in and I'm like, what are you doing?

You just, what are you doing?

You know, and he's just like, just seeing how things work kind of thing.

And then he left and I'm like, that's interesting.

First time you met him.

First time I met him.

I'm like, but you knew who he was?

Oh, yeah.

I knew who he was.

And I was heartbroken over him.

We love the makers of heartbroken.

And then inevitably, and now somebody else just shut up.

Inevitably, I ended up working with this family.

You know, I got introduced to this family.

I had no idea who they were.

I started talking to him and he shows up and he's like, I told you, you know,

and I was talking to his wife and to his daughter.

Like the absolute love of their family.

They wouldn't mind me saying that.

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And it was just interesting how he's kind of come in and out and how he's

if he has helped so many people, so many people.

And he has just, you know, his look on life and, you know, he,

what he said to even his wife was just spectacular.

So what was that little story that went when you didn't know who it was?

Because you didn't know when you were speaking to the person.

You didn't know it was.

I had no idea that he blushed.

He, this is another thing they could do.

It's not like when you lose your keys and you're like, okay, I gave him my keys.

And then all of a sudden they come back.

They just make you, they can't, they make it to where you can't see.

They know there's something there or somebody there, but they, you know, they

don't give their entrance.

I had no idea.

I had no idea who they are.

I'm, and I'm not even sure about the story.

You're going to have to read.

All right.

So I'll tell the story you tell me.

Okay.

So the story I heard was that you were sitting there with Vanessa.

I think I heard Vanessa and you didn't know who she was.

No, because that's the way you like to walk into sessions.

And, right.

So you, you're, and you're, and you're, and this is recorded.

Richard recorded this.

Yeah.

So you're sitting there and you're talking about, and because there's this guy

here, um, I think, and then you're like, are you with, I'm like, I'm not going to

say that.

Oh my gosh.

That, that's, so you could take it from here.

Okay.

So as, as I'm looking at her and I'm talking to this person, I'm like, oh, no.

I'm not going to say, he goes, will you just tell her?

And I'm like, oh, like he wants to know if he can pinch your ass.

And she looked at me and I was just mortified.

And she goes, those were the first five words he ever said to me.

And I clocked him kind of thing.

You know, she kind of laughed about it.

I'm like, something not simple, but I've fought him about saying it.

Cause you didn't know what a reference was.

I had, I'm like, I'm not going to talk about her.

I asked him, what are you doing?

You can't just look at my hair, I'm like, I'm not going to do that.

But all I think is, you know, working with, I have a lot of celebrity clients that

are just normal people, but are considered that way.

And I don't ever say anything that's on the internet.

I, first of all, I don't know when I walk into a room who they, you know, who they're

going to be.

But also, it's just, I mean, I don't have the capacity, but, you know,

because they're thinking, oh, they looked me up, you know, you can't help but think

that too, but nothing that comes through.

And something is the other wonderful thing he said to his daughter.

And it was so simple and I fought him on it too.

He goes, tell her, I love her to the moon and back and tell her about like,

Como and tell her it was okay, but tell her I love her to the moon and back.

I'm getting the chills as I'm saying this.

And, and she wouldn't mind me saying this.

And I'm like, everybody says, I love you to the moon and back.

I'm like, okay, I said it to her and she starts crying.

She had a bracelet that said, I love you to the moon and back by her dad that she

lost in Lake Como.

Oh, and her mom ended up getting her another one.

But that was evidence that he was there, you know, but something I thought just

the little things I fight, but it's so stupid.

Why would I do that?

But you do.

I do.

I can't help it.

I'm a skeptic of the other side as you should be.

And that's a healthy, it's a healthy intuitive to be skeptic of what comes in the

other side.

Yeah.

So let me ask you just for fun, because we're going to talk about a bunch of a

little bit more, a little heavier stuff moving forward, but just for fun.

You said that ever since you got up this morning, there's just been a whole

lot of people showing up.

Is has anyone showed up for me?

And if they did, I'd love to hear what you said.

I'm doing this for fun for you guys really, because I can easily talk to Jennifer

off camera about this, but I think that my audience would like kind of have fun

with it.

So let's have some fun.

So I told you, I mean, a lot of people from my class and somebody Matthew Perry

has been very like in the forefront for me.

And every time he comes in, it's usually I usually end up talking to somebody

that knew him.

And I would, again, I fight it too, but he's been, he has helped more people

from the other side than you can possibly imagine.

But it's for you.

It's so funny.

I usually have a lot of people.

Well, so I now understand like when it came to Yogananda, like every time I

feel that for you, I feel like that's where you, that's where you reside in

your energy filled in what in your energy field.

I feel you residing with his energy.

Well, that's beautiful.

And so and it's more and I keep getting your dream state is getting calmer.

It was pretty, pretty crazy before, but now it feels really calm.

And I feel so there's, yeah, you do have a lot, hold on, and a dog.

Just give me a second, your dog shows up all the time.

Your dog should have this morning, but like, and I think I've talked to you

about that, but you know, I forget everything, but your dog should have, but

you have a grandpa.

There's somebody that's here that also felt like they had either they were in law

enforcement or they were, so we had a heart attack.

Hold on.

Okay, you have your grandfather, your uncle.

It feels like a great uncle.

Do you know of someone that was in the Civil War and your family?

Yeah, Civil War?

No, I just see old guns like, like, I mean, it might have been Spain,

because that's where they came from, I don't want to mind that rabbit hole, hold on.

Somebody has something though of that that feels like there's a very old picture.

Give me a second, because I do feel like you came fighting a different way.

And I do feel you very connected to that ancestor.

They're showing me your daughter hold on.

There was a celebration or there's a birthday celebration that's,

that is either happening towards the end of the month, maybe.

Okay, just hold on.

And it feels like it has to do with you too.

There's some type of celebration about what you're doing right now, like how

many, it's not necessarily a comedy episodes, but maybe how many years you've been doing

this. And I feel like it started like at the beginning of the year.

And I feel like that there's something that's happening more with that too,

that I'm being shown, but your grandfather's a guide.

And I know that other people have talked to your grandfather.

But I feel you talking to him more.

And I also feel like the whole medium thing, like you are a medium.

Oh, well.

But again, I don't see that people just yet.

It's not about seeing them.

It's not about seeing them.

Again, it's everything's inside of you.

Like when I was explaining that feeling, it makes perfect sense.

Even the stuff that I see, because I see him come in and go out talking to you

when I leave, but everything is inside of you.

It's not something, you know, so when you're talking, people get so caught up

of where it's coming from.

So right now, just as we were talking, so I have your dog.

I get all these pictures of your ancestors.

I get the connection of your ancestors toward, of course, they're connected to you.

But your DNA, this fighting blood, this blue blood line that I'm seeing.

And then the, and then Yogananda, the presence with him.

And what you've been learning and how you're expanding, I mean, obviously

with everybody that you have on here, you are creating such an amazing

platform for people that to come to and go down their own rabbit holes, right?

As you've been doing, apparently, once after I've read you before,

I'm like, now you go watch it, because I didn't want to know anything beforehand.

You're like, I didn't, you know, I wasn't filming.

I'm like, oh, okay, you know, yeah, there's more, there's, I think there's a lot

more people that you're connected to.

There's some of it that's coming through that, that I felt like either was a

fireman or a police officer, and I'm not sure if you're related to them or not.

And they feel like they had, they're something about them having a hard attack

and you grew up with them.

And I'm seeing wrote like either one biking with them or you used to go biking with

them or you went to school with them.

Do you have any idea of that game?

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The kind of thing that's happening.

Yeah.

You want to hear something funny is I, I don't know if at this recording, I'm not sure

if I said this on the show before, but I'll say it again just because it's such a

powerful story for me.

I got a chance to go when I was in LA, I went to the Self Realization Fellowship

in my Washington for the first time and I was given a tour by a friend of mine

who knows everybody there.

And I'm walking around and walked into the place where he used to meditate

in the chapel where people can sit there and meditate and so on.

And they go, he goes, we have something special for you.

We're going to let you upstairs.

I'm like, what do you mean upstairs?

He said, oh, we're going to, you're going to go to yoga on those quarters.

They haven't touched it really since he left.

And it's a, it's a museum essentially.

Yeah.

So you take off your shoes and I have to wait for a brother to come down

and kind of guide you up there and walk in.

And when I walk in, um, the, I walk into his living room.

It's a, it's a, it's a house from the like 20s, you know, it felt him tapping you

on his shoulder.

Yeah, yeah.

So I walk in and I see everything.

I'm like, oh, there's the staff that he has in that picture I've seen.

Oh, there's this, there's a scarf that I've seen in the other show.

It's all there is all there.

Wow.

And then I walk into his bedroom and in his bedroom, they have this kind of like

a little picture of a backlit picture of him meditating as a young man, um,

and a chest that says prayers.

And I could tell you about what that means.

And then his shoes are right there.

His slippers that he's asleep in right underneath his bed.

Everything's been there covered in plastic.

Obviously for a person preservation, but it's there.

And I ask him, I go, can I, can I meditate in here for a little bit?

Wow.

He's like, yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like five minutes.

He goes, okay, because I have things to do.

I'm like, of course, um, he didn't say that.

But, um, I sit there and I start to meditate at the bed of Yogananda with his shoes,

his slippers run in front of me.

Um, I touch them, I touch the bed covered in plastic, but still touch it.

Yeah.

And I just start to meditate and I've never had a meditation session so intense,

so quickly in my life.

I was, I was a second, I walked in, I just started.

He dropped in.

The, the energy was just like rapid.

And when I start meditating, the electricity in my body just changes.

The, my face was like being hit with a thousand bits of energy.

I never felt that before.

I, I felt versions of this, but nothing, it's intense.

And I start to meditate and I sit there and I just start going deep.

I'm like, if I, it was five minutes, but I'm like, if I don't get out of this,

I won't, you won't come back.

I won't, I'm like, I could attack.

That's what I felt like when I left in.

I, I could have sat there for eight hours and not even eaten or drank or anything.

That's how intoxicating the image and the energy was.

Um, and then images started, things started to come into my mind.

I started to see, I was, I was connected in a way that I've not been connected

differently than I've ever before, but the energy was so palpable there.

Um, that I like literally yanked my way out of it because I felt bad for this

poor guy just standing outside waiting for me to meditate.

I felt very awkward for him, uh, for me and for him.

I was like, I don't want to do that to the poor guy.

Though he would have probably stayed there for 30 minutes.

He would have been fine.

He would have stayed there for 30 minutes, but I felt, um, but it was such a beautiful

experience.

So you're going to end on that.

I've had a connection since I read his book and I, I'm sure as millions have had

a connection with Yogananda, but he, I'm too bad him now.

He's been.

Oh, no, no, I've, I've had met, I've had him in my meditation.

I've had him dream.

You know, he, he, in, in my god, he hasn't left you and Connie is the one who introduced

me to him.

Um, that's when I read autobiography of a yogi and a kind of walk down that path.

So, oh, no, he's been with me for a long time.

I've had a, a deep connection with him.

And he's literally right behind me, um, all the time.

I have him everywhere.

I mean, he's there.

He's in my other set.

He's out front.

He's, he's everywhere.

Yeah.

Um, and his lineage as well, Bob a G and Yogan, Yutushua and so on.

Um, but that was just a connection for me.

Um, but it was just a really interesting energy that was happening.

I've never felt that before.

I'm looking forward to go back to LA just so I can go back there.

I love that.

I love that.

Well, when you get immersed in that energy, it's challenging to come back.

Oh, but you just have to go to it.

You have to just be in it.

Once you know that you're in it, just don't leave it.

You never have to leave it.

I'm just figuring out things, things take you out of it.

That's a difference life.

So, so I wanted to talk to you a little bit about what's going on in the world.

Um, I'm not going to ask you anything specific as of this recording.

The election already happened.

Okay.

So, um, I'm not, I don't care about who is going to win or not win.

To me, honestly, is irrelevant.

Yeah.

We created all of it.

Correct.

So it's going to go whichever way it's going to go.

What do you see for the aftermath?

Because the last election, there was a slight after a slight to aftermath.

But I feel that whatever happens after this very contentious election here in

the United States, there's going to be aftermath, not only here in the States,

but I think it's going to ripple around the world.

So as kindly and gently as you can, can you tell me what you're seeing for

humanity in the near future after this, this kind of turning point?

Oh, it's just something that's why I was shown a war, um, not for this,

but how sometimes it takes something that bad in order to get people to come together

and we, we really need to love each other more.

And I think this is going to do that.

And I'm hoping, but it's going to, you know, like anything else,

it's going to be painful before it gets better.

And, but I have hope for our humanity.

I have hope for each other.

I have hope for kind of working together.

We need to work together, not against one another.

We're so polarized right now, but that's, but that seems to be, um,

by design, humanity's design, I know conscious design right now.

And when I say that, it's because, you know, everything that happens to us, we create.

That's, that's the, the deeper question, like we created this.

So how did we do it?

What do we learn from it?

Um, how do we get back to oneness again?

To my understanding, or we never left one this, but how do we, remember,

to my understanding that is that humanity as a whole collective has made the

decision not to self-destruct.

That's what I've been told multiple times.

It's my also, my own gut, my own gut feeling.

We're not going to destroy ourselves, but we ain't going to make it easy.

Along the way is the question.

And, and you can see that around the world right now, um, it's never been as

polarized.

Well, I, I mean, the civil war was pretty rough, um, you know, so it has been,

but it's never been this polarized with this kind of technology, this kind of

connection around the world.

I mean, when the civil war was happening here in the States, Europe was like,

look at those crazy yanks, uh, doing stuff.

It really didn't affect them because we weren't as interconnected as we are

now. Um, but as they say, when the, when the US sneezes, the, the, the, the world

catches a cold.

Yeah.

Um, and that's what I'm kind of seeing here, not from an egocentric place.

That's just the reality of the world that we live in right now.

Um, so you agree that we, we're not in a self-destructive path, but it's not

going to be a, like we can end up killing each other with nuclear weapons and

be done with the whole world, you know, within minutes.

Sure.

So we're not going to do that.

Um, I do feel that nature has a little bit of a saying this, saying this.

Um, I do see a lot of that.

And I think we've also created that as well.

Um, but I see us coming together, but it's just going to be painful at first.

I think, but, but I don't know about you, but every great lesson that I've learned

in life has come through pain.

I just wish it didn't have to agree with you.

So when I was looking, when I started seeing, um, I'll never forget I had this

woman in my, woman in my office in my cat.

I don't think her husband's going to be working.

I didn't know her husband was the captain of the alley kings.

And I'm like, she was, what do you mean?

So you're going to get injured?

Is I'm like, no, I don't see anybody.

I don't see anybody working, you know, and at the, but it was COVID, you know,

and there are so many things, so many things.

I, but how great I'm back to, it's like, I think a lot of people really learned

a lot from COVID, you know, they either learned how to love each other.

They learn that they were in the wrong relationship.

They, whatever they learned was probably a little bit both.

It was a reset.

Complete. It was a giant shift.

It, you could tell humanity shifted after, and it's already shifting now

because there's so many people leaving the planet too.

I can't tell a lot of the older.

They're just like, bye.

I'm out. I'm gone.

And, and a lot of the newer souls coming into the planet are more prepared.

They're locked and loaded to lead.

Yeah, they're ready to make this.

They are ready and the women that are coming in, like, it's so interesting.

It was so easy 20 years ago to say, oh, you're having a boy.

Oh, you're having a girl.

Now it's like, what?

Because the energies are different.

The girls are coming in super masculine and the guys are coming in more fluid.

And so I have to look for colors whenever I, and, by the way, it's a 50% chance of being

right. That's what it has to say.

No, I feel that, I feel that they're meant to come in here and lead.

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Yeah, because the older systems, and I've been saying this for ever, the older systems are starting to crack.

Yeah, um, not starting to crack.

They're crumbling.

They're, they're literally crumbling.

There's, there's people holding on with band-aids.

Yeah, while the ship has leaps left and all of them are putting, like, literal band-aids trying to put it all together.

And they're holding on for dear life because they don't want to let go.

Isn't it powerful what our minds could do?

Oh God.

You just gave that visual, right?

And they think it's working.

They think it's working because they, because they, they have no, if you're in a ship that's sinking,

and that you believe that putting a band-aid will help you survive.

You have no other way to think about it, because if you think that this is ridiculous,

you will be done.

So you can't think that now.

Well, we are looking outside looking at the ship going like, dude, that's not going to work at all.

I mean, the band-aid is not covering the Titanic hit that you just got from that iceberg.

It's just not going to work.

So, but that's happening in so many different fields around the world.

Media, um, the economy, food, medicine, education, religion, all of it starting to crumble down more and more.

And they really have, if you, if you've noticed, I was thinking about this the other day,

if you notice that there hasn't been one industry that has not had a

shakedown, they all have had a shakedown, but now they all have an alternative.

So before, and I pick on the Catholic church as a recovering Catholic, um, it was that way.

There was no other alternatives, but throughout history, even early on, you know,

Mormonism is, I don't know, a hundred years old, 150 years old.

Yeah, something like that, right?

Um, but then there was Lutherans, then there was Baptist, then in the Protestant, and they all kind of scattered and

it starts splintering away, um, because they became alternative to the main narrative.

Well, then Hollywood has alternatives now, which is social media and YouTube, which by the way,

now YouTube is the biggest streaming platform on the planet.

Much bigger than all of the other guys.

I think you didn't combine that's how big and they're only getting bigger.

So there's an alternative for voices like this now, um, economy,

cryptocurrency was created, you know, love it or hate it, it's something to stay.

Yeah, exactly.

So it's, it's, it's something.

So in, in, in health, alternative medicine in, so the every industry has had

some sort of alternative come up because people are tired of the old systems.

Like Charlie Goldstein, we need to work together.

Like Charlie Goldstein's a healer and, um, recently when I was speaking to him, we were discussing.

He's like, I want, you know, the medical industry to utilize healers.

Like, why can't you have a healer there with somebody else that's working on them?

Oh, right.

Just a little, little bit.

Yeah, I, it's a little paulianic to him.

I get that.

I get that.

But like I work with law, I work with law enforcement, but there's a difference there

because look, the difference is that when you come in, they've hit the wall.

Yeah, they have no other option.

And they're like, why not a doctor or the medical field will never yell.

Uncle, yeah, they just won't, they just won't.

And if you come in and heal it, yeah, then they're going to do you out of a job.

So it's a very different day.

Yeah, they're doing a lot of studies on that.

I, he's the most documented healer.

And they're, he just, I can understand that that they should have something.

But we were talking about, you know, working together.

That's the only way that this, how all of this is going to work is if we combine

our effort and these are going to be nature that continuously challenges us.

So because I look, I've lived in Florida for 25 years.

Nature cleans cleanses us.

Well, yeah, I mean, like I said, I lived in Florida for 25 years.

I've been hit by many hurricanes.

I've gone through, I went through Andrew, I went through Wilma.

I've been in, I've been through all, I've been a lot.

I've never been devastated where I've lost my house.

But I've definitely felt a lot, yeah, lost a roof.

I mean, I've gone through it.

So I see what that does.

But when that happens, everyone gets together.

There's no politics anymore.

There's no color anymore.

Hopefully none of that race, all that's gone.

There's like, no, we need to move that log.

So we all can get power.

You know, we need to lift that so we can get water as a community.

I hope that that's not that we don't continuously get pounded by nature.

So we constantly are these disasters are the things that bring us together.

Look at 9-11, the entire country came together.

Look at Pearl Harbor, the entire country came together.

But we needed to have this massive devastation for us to get together.

Yeah, look how powerful we are together, right?

I mean, it's amazing.

I don't think, I think Mother Nature is just going to, I mean,

we have a lot of things that we're working on.

And I do believe that, you know, I mean, I don't know how anybody can deny global warming.

I just don't know how that's even happening.

It's hot.

It's hot.

It's, well, we've, we've had the cold again.

I live by the beach, which I'm incredibly grateful for, but we've had the cold

to summer in the world because it's not always hot.

It's because it's so hot inland.

That is not okay.

That's not, and I'm not talking about, well, I'm not talking about us having cold

weather. I'm just saying it's not okay to be that super hot to where we have

cloud covers the whole time.

Isn't growing up, I, if I ever saw a weather report that had 101,

it's usually in Phoenix or Death Valley.

I never, the 110, oh yeah, that's death Valley in the summer where no human

being should be.

That's what I, when I grew up, I never, living in Florida, right, never

heard of anything like that.

Now it's common.

I mean, last summer in Austin, we had eight to 12 weeks of 100 plus every single

day.

Wow.

Every day 101, 105, 107, 108 in Austin, not Phoenix, not, not, not the

Valley.

That's crazy.

It's, it's so it's getting hotter.

There's something happening.

There's something happening.

Well, when I go diving, I'm either, I've never been, I've never been so

devastated.

Then seeing all white underneath.

I'm like, oh, my God, this is heartbreaking.

Well, from what I understand, the planet without us will be fine.

Any damage we do to a certain extent, I mean, we saw them COVID, yeah,

quickly everything we found is still like a three weeks.

I mean, if you think about the matrix, right, you've got to think about the

people that are coming back in that know in the future, what we've done, know

in the future, what's happening.

They've got to be doing some change here.

And I do want to believe that when you said coming back in, it soles being

born, soles being born, also different people here.

I don't, I don't know consciousness, you know, looking into things, figuring

it out, how can we help right now stop what's happening in the future?

Again, past, present futures in the same place for me.

Why can't we, why can't we have that?

Why can't we get the knowledge to help us now to get quiet to help us for

a future? And I do believe that there's people that are doing that.

Where do you see humanity's consciousness shift going?

Because from where I'm sitting, it seems to be growing.

Our consciousness needs to be going, I know it's hard for people listening,

like, are you getting it?

It's the worst time I go.

Yeah, but no, but no,

people are, we're awake.

COVID woke up everyone that I know of.

Like it's not a 10 years ago.

They're like, what do you do?

Now it's like, Oh, what do you do?

Who are you?

Can I get a session?

Exactly, exactly.

I don't know if you want your great uncle from Spain coming.

Exactly with this little work on my God.

There's a picture there somewhere.

Um, yeah, I don't, I just, I think that we're, I mean,

I think that it's done a lot for us by what we've been through.

And I don't, I feel that we are all waking up.

That's why all the stuff is cracking.

We're remembering.

And so I don't, I've been, um, I read extensively and I tune in a lot.

And I do believe that, um,

employees, an equalizer, the only reason why I could do the crime work I do.

So I'll have seven hours with the clients and two of them will be murders.

Every week I have parents that have lost their children.

That, well, this is why I'm saying, saying this, um,

that one of the last 24 hours of their child's life, they want to know if it was murder.

They want to know if it was a, um,

if it was a suicide and, you know, sometimes I,

a lot of times it was a suicide.

They're never in the right mind when they do it.

Obviously, um, but that being said, I have had an order to be,

because I've asked them like, I want to be the best medium I could be,

the best crime person I can be.

How do I, how do I do that?

And I had to learn to just know out there, there's an equalizer.

Some people call it a pendulum.

Some people call it, you know, again, and again, kind of feeling,

I, because I know that I'm not in charge of whoever did this.

I'm not in charge of why it happened.

I'm not, I had to get out completely out of all of that in order to not be compromised.

Because if I have feelings, I'm not going to get, you know,

I can pick up on what the parents think.

I can, you know, I have to get the right information to come through.

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I'm not, it's not that I'm desensitized by knowing there's an equalizer out there.

If you think about it with what we were just talking about, then there's a polarity,

right? So with what you were saying, like with everybody waking up, yes,

there's going to be more things that are happening because of consciousness,

you know, and when more groups of people get together and do certain things,

they've documented what the power prayer, what people meditating, you know,

when I had that experience, it was with Dr. Joe's walking, you know,

walking meditation that ended up where there was 140,000 people from around the world

doing it at the same time.

I know that's how I entered into that state.

It is a very powerful thing.

So yeah, polarities, you're going to have something that's very similar to what I

called the equalizer.

You know what I'm saying?

I do. Okay.

So let me ask you for someone listening right now, who is living in a place of fear.

They're hearing this conversation and they go to fear right away because their

place is a default is fear.

You know, I was talking to someone the other day and the one I would, they go,

so what's going to happen?

And I go, well, based on what I know, because I have so many interactions with weirdos

like yourself.

I go, it's going to be a little bit rocky, but we'll be fine.

And we'll get through it and all that kind of stuff.

You know, and every, and every economic downturn, there's people who make

billion dollar companies and people who are devastated.

It's going to, it's going to range everywhere and in between.

But they were like, so what do I do?

I'm like, I don't buy gold toilet paper and bullets.

I don't know.

What do you want from me?

But they went to fear right away.

What can the, and I want to ask from the other side.

Yeah.

What does the other side have to say about someone who is living in fear right now

from this conversation?

So right when you were talking about it, I kept getting love.

Like fears, the apps, apps that serve love, right?

But love is something that like, so when someone says they're fearful,

everything's going to turn out to be okay in some form of fashion for wherever

you are and whatever place or state that you're in.

But my biggest thing that I've learned this year and what I have received

from the other side is fall in love with yourself.

You know, the first to say that.

Fall so deeply in love with yourself that you, everything you look at is magical.

Right?

That you can find all the good in anything that's gone wrong.

And that you know that no matter, it doesn't matter if you have a home,

doesn't, home is inside.

Nobody from the other side can, no one shows me their homes from the other side

unless they died in it or unless they, you know, unless they want me to find

something in it, you know, like look how cool or like, or yeah, they're like,

oh, I forgot the, you know, I forgot to put, you know, down her name for the trust.

Not kind of like nobody shows me anything like that.

So, but it really is to find your home and to find love and to be in love with yourself

because once you're in love with yourself, every part of you, you send,

a neural out, you send, you know, different feedback to your body.

Your body gets better automatically.

Absolutely.

And then the people around you get better.

And then you want to do more and then it kind of carries over, but I would suggest

just doing little stuff, like find, if you can't find anything good about yourself,

figure it out fair enough, fair enough.

Now I'm going to ask you a few questions, ask all my guests.

Okay.

What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

It's being peaceful with wherever I am.

It's, it is having the love of my children and my husband and my friends and my,

just, my life, I think, just knowing that everything's going to be okay, whether I'm here or not.

If you had a chance to go back in time and talk to a little Jennifer,

what advice would you give her?

Stop being so exhausting.

What do you mean by that?

Oh, I was in my head constantly.

Oh, my goodness.

And just know that no one cares that much.

Like I word it to their own crap.

Yeah, like no one cares.

Just start living your life, you know, and just know that you are going to be great.

You're going to be so much fun later on.

This is a side question.

Why do you think that you chose this path in this life, like you, you're so blueprint,

you're so plan, what did you want to learn as a, as an intuitive slash psychic medium?

In this time period, as a woman coming from a Mormon family, I mean,

there are some challenges being thrown up there.

Why do you think you wanted to go down this road?

Because I mean, you live from what I see a very fun life, a happy life.

You're enjoying what you do, but it wasn't always like that.

There was definitely some journeys there to get there.

No, no, no.

So why do you think you chose this?

I think I chose this this time around.

I was told that I had, I committed suicide a lot,

because I never got to the point where I was able, yeah, I wanted out.

And my daughter, I was told by an intuitive antitastrologist separately,

that my daughter came here to be my insurance policy, to stay.

And that we were sisters in a past life.

And you don't have to believe this.

It doesn't even matter.

But we were sisters in a past life, and I committed suicide.

And she said, okay, you're going to be my mom this time.

And if you make it, you're going to have the best life ever.

But if you don't, I'm going to have the worst life ever.

So that's...

And I remember someone saying this, because she, because I thought about the other side,

I just, you know, I was sick at the time.

I had an endometriosis.

I was just awful.

And I just didn't want to be here anymore.

And I heard her say, she's like, you do know if you leave,

your daughter will have the worst life she's ever had.

She will never have...

It will be the worst life for her.

She came in here, in here, counting on you to stay.

And it worked.

It worked.

Just from that, there was something that worked.

Because she used to freak out every time I leave, both my son and her.

And I'm like, when I was able to come home in the day, I'm like,

I'm never going to leave you.

She didn't cry again.

There was something that healed that.

And this little girl...

Girl, out of feeling.

Yeah.

Wow.

And this little girl was astrophysics student of the year at her high school.

She's an aerospace engineer.

She is, we talk 10 times a day.

Like, I am so grateful.

She's literally learning how to fly.

Like, she's...

I just, and it just took that...

I don't know.

That little piece of an intuitive saying that to me that helped heal me.

And so talking about coming in here, I think the Mormon Church actually saved my life

because I didn't want to commit suicide.

So that was my stop, right?

You needed that programming.

I needed that programming.

And then my Mormon dad told me, you know, it's not your job to make anybody believe in anything.

And I'm like, what?

I think it's Jennifer.

It's your job to give evidence and to be who you are.

And he goes, you've been consistent with who you are.

He goes, let everybody else figure it out.

And if you use that with anything that you do, if you're not trying to prove,

and if you do it that way, all of a sudden, and you don't have anything like,

you shouldn't have that fear, it helped me become a better worker.

Beautifully said.

Now, how do you define God or source?

He must have a very funny personality.

Or she must have.

To have all this happening.

I do find it from my experience.

Again, it's just my experience is love.

You have to love everything.

It's you, it's me, it's this, it's, you know, all of this.

We've created, right?

I believe that we're just creating whatever

source wants to experience.

Good, bad, and indifferent.

Doesn't matter.

What does love?

Peace.

Happiness.

But it's nothing outside of us.

It never will be.

It helps though.

And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

Finding out who you are.

Remembering.

Yeah, remembering.

Jennifer, working people find out more about you

and the amazing work you're doing in the world.

Oh, thank you.

Jennifer Shafer.

Dot com.

So J N N I F E R S H A of F V R dot com.

My website or our podcast with Richard Martini

hacking the afterlife.

That's always entertaining.

I never know.

Richard, if you guys have not seen the Richard episode,

watch the Richard Martini episode.

It's hilarious.

He is so good.

He is so amazing.

Yes.

Absolutely.

And does the other side have any parting messages

for this audience?

Stay on your path.

Regardless of where it goes.

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And now back to the show.

A lot of times we are so wanting to get to somewhere, right?

And get to that side of that.

We forget about, I don't know, we talk about it.

But the other side is just saying,

just stay on your path.

Just that is the journey.

It's not, you know, and don't let anybody tell you not to.

Don't let anybody tell you you shouldn't be doing that.

And don't hold back.

It's worked out for us, I guess.

I'm still here.

Same here.

Jennifer, it's been such a pleasure having you on this show.

It was so much fun.

Thank you so much for coming on the show.

And for everything you're doing to help awaken this planet.

I appreciate you.

Thanks for having me.

Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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